Lionel Messi, voted the best player in the history of football

>>76461902
>Dutch
we all know

>Dutch magazine biased towards Cruyff

>4 from 5 are black
4chan btfo, black are the true masterrace

>cruyff over pele

what the fuck? biased af

When will people realise Cruyff wasn't even that good, probably Totti tier

>>76462006
Is there a single serious maganzine/journalist who doesn't rate Messi as the GOAT?

>>76462002

When did Totti win 3 ballon d'ors?

Ranking Messi above Pele means CL > WC

International football BTFO hahahahahahah

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no WC? no top 5.

it's really that fucking easy.

>>76461902
for you

>>76461902
>Disclosure: May ensue rampant autist arguments from penaldo fag bois

>>76462053
*above Pele and Maradona

>>76462006
>muh overglorified poacher is better than a playmaker who just happens to score goals at a similar rate to muh poacher while also playmaking all game long simply because he has had more recent success in terms of team accomplishments
"No."

>Not a single international title
>GOAT
Really fires up those neurons

>>76462002
What do you know about how good Cruyff was?

>>76462120
he has numerous champions leagues, an olympic gold medal and an u20 world cup

all international titles

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>Pelé not first

EXPOSED

>>76462053
But CL is played between teams from different nations.

only 1 of these players got a sticky
really makes you think

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>>76461902
Too bad they can't vote him a NT trophy

>>76462142
>u20 world cup

Figo confirmed GOAT

>>76462142
>No Copa America
>No WC

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>I evaluate individual greatness with team accomplishments as my primary guide

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>Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedeeeeeeeeerrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>76461902
They're not wrong.

>>76462192
literally the only 2 titles he hasn't won

no players has won it all

>>76462187
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_the_consequent

>>76461902

>hasn't won't euro OR world cup once
>goat

>>76461902
>dutch

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>>76462213
>Ronaldo won because his team carried him

>Messi didn't win because his team is shit!!!

>>76462213
>I evaluate individual greatness with flashy dribbles and pointless goals vs eibar

>>76462265
How can one player be this smug?

>>76462157
>But CL is played between teams from different nations.
from europe only

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>>76462270
>muh reddit highlight videos against jobless communist deportes fc

>>76462046
Ballon D'Ors are reserved for the biggest players in the biggest teams so they can market the fuck out of them, Tottis loyalty to Roma betrayed him

>>76462131
I know that despite a few flashy moves he didn't have much in his game with little end product, now don't fucking mention me in your shit posts ever again

>>76462299
he has won the clubs world cup

>cruyff better than pele

do these cunts get off on their own stupidity?

>>76462243
>literally the only 2 titles he hasn't won

Wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_South_American_U-20_Championship

I mean if you count u20 world cup as a legit trophy this should count too.

>>76462270
Ronaldo?

>>76461902
>Pele
>not 1st

Why are noobs allowed to do this?

>Pelel status: BTFO

>>76462270
Ahmed, Messi and Penaldo score goals at similar rates but Messi does so while creating chances for his teammates all game long, directly or indirectly, with his passing and dribbling whereas Penaldo spends most of the game hovering around the box waiting to statpad. Those "flashy dribbles" consistently unlock defenses for himself or his teammates. It isn't difficult to see who is better simply by watching them both play regularly.

Amazing how Messifags have convinced the world that leading your nation to international glory isn't a big deal.

>>76461902
>Cryuff over Pele
In what fucking dimension?

>a country whose national team chokes regularly rates a national team choker

Really made me think....

>>76462389
Cruyff* ffs

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>>76462365
>it isn't difficult to see who is better by conjecture and confirmation bias because muh ebin 10k upvote highlight video on reddit

>all these faggots hating on Cruijff for not winning titles with the NT
he refused to play the 1978 WC when he was at his peak, if he played it they'd have won

>>76462389
It's rating influence over skill. Was Jimi Hendrix the most technically skilled guitarist of all-time? Of course not. Yet, he's consistently referred to as the GOAT because of his unique creativity and startling influence on those who came after him. Cruyff is the Jimi Hendrix of football, and both Barca and Ajax strongly bear his influence to this day.

>>76462419
he choked hard in the 74 final

netherlands dominated the entire tournament

>>76462419
hes an even bigger faggot for that

>>76462408
mate if you disagree with him you don't watch the games but just look at the boxscores

messi still has better numbers in literally all aspects of the game

>>76462389

Cruyff would get exposed hard in an era played by plumbers and full time smokers.

Ronaldo is the best scorer but not the best player
that's how it is
Clasicos show this

>>76462426
Cringing

>>76462443
He boicotted the WC, other nations/players should have done the same. Argentina was a fucking dictatorship at that time

>>76462451
But Messi is a better scorer too

>>76462379
Amazing how you think two or three games should define a player's career.

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>>76461902

it's always an american faggot doing this threads... sad.... contrived...


meanwhile in real life messi hasn't even entered the best starting 11 of the CL this year by France Footballl magazine.

LOL
LMAO
BTFO

>>76462419
>Using ifs as your argument

>>76462471
oh, good to know he was an even bigger faggot who dragged politics into football

>1 is a winger
>1 is a striker

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>>76462451
>Ronaldo is the best scorer

hmmm

>muh Pele

If scoring 1000 goals in a Brazilian PL against Favela FC makes you a GOAT sign me up

>>76462478

>two or three

how many games has messi played for argentina in failing campaigns now?

reckon he's had more than two or three goes at it.

>>76462512
At that time the Brazilian league was the best in the world

You are from fucking Estonia, why do you feel in position to talk shit about Pele?

oh shit the stats are here
someone get on squawka quick

>dutch magazine
>Jowho Cruyff 3th
w e w

76462489
Always a halal fag replying to these threads...sad...contrived

>>76462512
It might be irrelevant for you. But I could say the same about the eredivisie, english league, bundesliga etc. So what's your argument? See how easy it is...

>>76462506
t. bosnian who posts webm of maldini scoring an own goal to prove he's "overrated"

go kick the ball in the park m8

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>>76462506
>the city of PK7

>>76462546
>Not even quoting correctly
Can Messhits fall lower?

>76462579
No (You) for you.

>>76462471
>>76462506
then why do some people deny he's the goat?

>>76462512
brazilian and the libertadores were actually legit back in the day.

nothing in common with the joke that it is today

>>76462611
They don't watch enough football.

>>76461902
>Pele not top 3
what a travesty

>>76462611
>some people
It's only a thing in Portuguese websites, Halal websites or 4chan, where people "pretend" to be retarded or just drop contrarian opinions

All serious and unbiased journalists consider Messi as the GOAT

>>76461902
>3 lost finals doing NOTHING
>literally not 1 good play in the most important 3 matches
>GOAT
yeah sure....
Maradona will be the best FOR EVER

>>76462637
Sir Alex ranks ronaldo higher and he's the greatest manager of all time.

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>>76462637
>serious and unbiased journalists

>>76462506
Ronaldo started his career as a fucking midfielder. You can't be serious.

>journalists

>>76461902
These lists are always full of shit. You can't compare football played in the 30's with the one played in the 70's and 00's etc... These players stood out in their respective eras and that's about it.

>>76462568
Maradona proved himself all over the world and pretty much carried his NT to win the WC.

Pele only played for one team his entire career and arguably won the WCs with absolutely stacked Brazilian NTs

Of course Pele is a good player but shouldn't be rated over Maradona

>>76462652
cause he trained him and is a friend

Explain to me why people rate

>pele

The fuck?

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the neville family, one of the greatest football families in the world

>>76462426
hendrix is overrated

tsunaldo isn't even a top 5 all time player LMAO

>>76462637
>Everyone Who dont follow my oppinion is biased and non profesional or trolls
Messhits are literally ill

>>76462652
He ain't a journalist nor unbiased, he managed Ronaldo and didn't manage Messi

>>76462672
cause he won three world cups

>>76462659
Ahmed, Messi has essentially played as a midfielder for years now. And don't call him Shirley.

>>76462694
what impact did pele had in 62? by that logic ronaldo also won the WC in 1994. and baresi in 1986.

>>76462667
I kinda see your point tho, but the estaduais were actually pretty big back in time and the level played was high, but still you can't compare players from different eras looking with today's mind... and that's why I made that post:
>>76462662

>literally chokes and loses 3 major international finals
>lol not important

messhits ladies and gentleman

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>>76462717
*1982

>>76462737
that parrot is going to shit on him lol

>>76462734
it's important, but it doesn't change the fact that he's the GOAT

Maradona didn't score in the final, his teammates carried him. It's the same "argument"

You can't rate a whole career by a 7-games-tournament

>>76462737
>portunol
>literally the country that lost every war against BR gauchos
you cant talk shit scum
your country suck

1. Pelé
2. Maradona
3. Garrincha
4. Cruyff
5. Di Steffano
6. Beckenbauer
7. Zidane
8. Ronaldo
9. Messi
10. C.Ronaldo

Source: My ass.

>>76462762
>maradona was carried against england and belgium
>he didn't score in the final so he was carried

tremendous logic

>0 goals or assists in 25 finals with Argentina
>His team was shit la, he is still the goat la

Messi is overrayed AF
systembaby
cant do shit in south america

>>76462702
Literally false. He started as a false 9 and has lately moved into a winger role. Don't fucking reply to my posts ever again you retarded idol-worshipping yank.

>>76462762

lad its not just 7 games though. how many tournaments has messi played at now?

>>76462806
he's literally the highest goalscorer in our history

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>>76462799
>garrincha

>>76462799
looks good to me

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>>76462799
>garrincha

>>76462799
http://footballsgreatest.weebly.com/legends-10-to-1.html

THIS is the final ranking

>>76462804
>25 finals with Argentina
what?

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1. MARADONA/D10S

2. PELÉ

3. JUAN ROMAN RIQUELME

4. MESSI

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>>76462858
>Beckenbauer better than Messi
>Puskas better than di Stefano

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>juan roman riquelme

>>76462879

>riquelme
>professional choke man

>>76462879
WTF riquelme????? Probably the memiest player I've ever seen in my whole life lol

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>>76462902

>>76462879
>i rate riquelme
fedoradog.jpg

>>76462808
Muhammad, his "official" position and where he actually plays on the pitch are two different things. You'd know that he essentially plays as a midfielder these days if you actually watched him regularly, which you clearly do not.

>>76462943
>vidal with "normal" hair

>>76462943
For me, it's chupete suazo

>>76462917
>>76462925
he overplayed le hiped madrid
he overplayed la liga
make VILLAREAL, a literally who team to the CL semi finals
Made argentina to win at germany at 2006, he went out and they lost
Made boca win 3 libertadores, almost every local tournament and 2 club WC
Its literally the most important player of south america in the last 30 years

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>>76462943

>>76462955
No one gives a shit, Cucklord. You're a nauseating fanboy desperately trying to veil his anger through le smug redditposting

>>76462994
t. bostero

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Lionel Messi is better than Cristiano Ronaldo.

>>76462955
No he does not you absolute mong. Do you even know what a fucking midfielder is? Seriously don't reply to me anymore. I can only talk to psuedo yanks so much.

>>76462994

remember when he literally missed the penalty that saw villareal exit the 2006 cl

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>>76463021 wins the thread.

>>76462828
>scores against Oviedo, Murcia, Leganes, Betis, Granada...

La Liga is a lie.

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>>76463037
That's an attacking midfielder's heatmap, Jabir.

>>76463051
so messi is shit because missed a pen against chile?
0 arguments as always brit fuk

>because if there's a people with a deep understanding of football, it's the dutch

>>76463168
Ok. Now tell me what a false nine is.

>>76463184

>loses 3 finals

n-n-n-n-n-not an issue

>>76461902
The dutch once again prove patrician white men know better
LMAO @ all the triggered shitskins and retards who think pelel was anywhere near Cruyff

>>76461902
voetbal international are all barca fanboys who shit on ronaldo at every opportunity

>>76463301
are you still mad about the hand goal?

>>76461902

>voting in before cronaldo and messi retire

This is retarded. I guess they want to stroke the tear covered dick of messi.

>>76462053
>rating a hue-nigger
>rating a hue-nigger over messi

>>76463538
Are we pretending that ronaldo will ever be anywhere near Messi's level?
Love me some tsuu but I'm not a contrarian shitposter or a teen who casually watches football

>>76462325
pfffff

Does anyone have the full list?

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>>76461902
He is la GOAT

>3/5 Argentinians
lel

>>76465162
How come you have the same number of world cups as uruguay with so many GOATS?

>>76465184
For me, Jules Rimemets don't count

Di Stefano never played a World Cup
Maradona won 1
Messi hasn't retired yet

>>76465195
Maradona should have won 2 but 1990 was stolen in the last minute with a fake penalty

>>76465210
yeah but he did played with his hand in 1986

>>76465225
We would have won anyway. It was 2-1 because Bilardo parked the bus after the 2-0.

>>76461902

>Voetbal Internationa

WHO?????

>>76461902
>dutch intelectuals

>>76464890
Is it possible to post a more pathetic image on 4chan?

>>76465589
triggered amerifat

>>76462799
Your source is more valid than Voetbal International

>>76461902
No Zidane in top 5

KEK what a shitshow.

>>76465610
Lol
>juves bbc runs a train on antonella earlier that week
>do ebin shirt pose after scoring a goal against real madrid that accomplished nothing

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>>76462799
>Messi and Tsu above Puskas
>Messi above Tsu
>Zidane even on the list

>>76462419

>1978 cruijff
>peak cruijff

76462579
Giving you YOUs nah nigga im cool, thanks for mine though

>>76464890
Based

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With the ball on the feet
1 - Messi
2 - Ronaldo
3 - Maradona
4 - Cruyff
5 - Iniesta
6 - Zidane
7 - Romário
8 - Pelé
9 - Zico
10 - Ronaldinho

Records, tittles, influence in history of football
1 - Pelé
2 - Cristiano Ronaldo
3 - Messi
4 - Ronaldo
5 - Romário

>>76466352
Records, tittles, influence in history of football
1 - Pelé
2 - Cristiano Ronaldo
3 - Messi
4 - Ronaldo
5 - Ronaldinho *

>>76466352
Ronaldos influence only comes from twitter followers and 80% of them are sand niggers

>>76466352
Brazilians are so knowledgeable. /sp/ doesn't deserve them

>>76466373
everyone forget about ronaldo when it comes to the best ever but when someone say his name everyone put him at least in top 5
even after his injuris he was a GOAT

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>>76466374

>>76466352
>5 - Iniesta
>8 - Pelé
Could've at least tried to make a proper bait

>>76462142
Ronaldo has 4 champions league and an important international title

TSU>Messhit

>>76462659
This, also didn't ronaldo go like 30 matches without scoring a goal at ManU?

>>76461902
dutch jordis are SEETHING lmao

>>76462053

because CL is a true testament between the best players in the world in any given year, the world cup is a 7 game luck competition every 4 years. You cannot tell me a player like Biglia, Garay, Banega, Perez will ever have any opportunity to even sniff a Champions League final

>>76467275
>an important international title

did not play

>everyone arguing why the king of modern football (cruyff) is even in the top 5

You guys realize he was refballed against Germany in 74 right?

and for 1978 he wasn't even able to fly to Argentina

>Cruyff told Radio Cataluyna that the attempt occurred in Barcelona in 1977. "I had a rifle at my head, I was tied up, my wife tied up, the children were in the apartment in Barcelona," he said.

>The former player did not explain how the ordeal ended, but said his house was placed under police protection for the next four months and that guards thereafter accompanied his children to and from school. He said concern for his family meant he did not feel able to help Holland at the World Cup.

Cristiano Ronaldo isn't even the best Ronaldo ever.

>>76467423
Then how did he get injured?

>>76467572
is he the best Cristiano at least?

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>>76467602

If we include variations of the name Christian, no.

>>76462799
1. Messi
2. Maradona
3. Pele
4. Di Stefano
5. Cruyff
6. Beckenbauer
7. Ronaldo
8. C. Ronaldo
9. Zidane

>>76467961
>8. CR7
> 9. ZIDANE

la concha de tu madre

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>1. Messi

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>people genuinely, actually think Messi is a better player than Ronaldo

1. Ronaldo
2. Messi
3. Maradona
4. Fatnaldo
5. Zidane
6. Iniesta
7. Xavi
8. Zidane
9. Ronaldinho
10. Modric

reminder that the 60s-80s were a terrible standard of football. the players were fat old alcoholics who smoked 20 ciggs a day. the standard was awful compared to todays

>>76468397
>Modric
>Xavi

WAT?

>>76467598
he didn't, he just run away

only from what I've seen since 2000

1. Messi
2. Zidane
3. Fenomeno Ronaldo
4. Ronaldinho
5. Iniesta
6. Modric
7. Cristiano Ronaldo
8. Kroos
9. Marcelo
10. Di Maria

it's of course La Liga based, and maybe there were better footballer before, but it's amusing to see that people argue if Pelé was better than Cruyff when they see only yt videos of them play

1. Messi
2. Maradona
3. Fat Ronaldo

based on what they could do with the ball
For me, Cristiano is not even better than defenders with the ball. He's actually quite painful to watch unless he shoots it immediately.

1. Messi
2. C. Ronaldo
3. Maradonna
4. Garincha
5. Maldini
6. Gerrard
7. Cryuff
8. Zidane
9. Gascoigne
10. Di Stefano

>>76469858
>le useless stepovers man

>>76461902
lol

LOL

Messi, Maradona, CR7 and Ronaldo all play in different positions, how can you compare them? They could play in the same team no problem

>Top 5 of all time
>No Elias Figueroa
shit list desu

Ronaldo

Has anyone ever noticed that its always arab immigrants defending cristiano
>england flag
>portugal flag
>germany flag

I hadnt even checked the flags itt until after i wrote the countries down lel everytime

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*sambas your path*

>>76467406
>luck

Yeah that's why only the best 6 nations and england have won it

>>76462682
Nah, Mudslime halal customers like you are mentally ill.

>a bunch if forwards
What an original list.

>>76469961
top b8

>>76474438
Great reply my hispanic friend

for me
1. Messi
2. Maradona
3. Ronaldo Nazario

never will rate pele because he played against farmers when there was no offside rule

imagine messi/ronaldo have only scored 600 goals at a ridiculous rate. Pele scored what? 1200? that's bullshit. Anyone before 1975, no.

>>76475505
>t. Avid YouTube spectator

>>76461902
Wtf I love Voetbal now

>>76473513

>and England

Glad to see we all think of that as a fluke

Who has more balloon doors again?

The 3 best players of all times
1. Platini
2. Kopa
3. Papin

1. Ronaldo (nigga one)
2. Ronaldo C.
3. Maradona, Pele (you name it)

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1. Del Piero
2. Buffon
3. LCIM
4. Higuain
5. Van Basten

>>76461902
>sport-english.com

Stop promoting your shitty blog amerifat.

>>76462002
Cruyff was "football smart" as fuck

>>76473513
>and England

Good man

>>76461902
Well he is

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Contrarian kiddo is right though

>>76461902
Voetbal International has been utter garbage for a few years now.

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MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI

>>76483768
>inb4 someone blames La Liga defending
>inb4 b4 someone starts dumping webms of Messi doing the same magic vs. some of the best defences in the world

>>76484876
This lol

>>76462312
>
Are you serious nigger? He fucking won the Europa Cup 1 three times in a row with Ajax. And he was the main reason why Ajax and Barcelona had so much succeses

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>>76483768

>>76473151
Swedish too

Messi and Pele to me are the only two players that make other player look 20 years behind the times

>>76473513

kek

>>76473513

>and england

>>76487729

>The last time Ronaldo pulled something like this, he was still playing for Manchester United.

>>76467275

>International title.

He didn't play the Final of the Euro though. Based Payet injured him.

>>76462098
This.

>>76462379
Ronaldo was shit in the euros.

>>76490150
>Messi pulls something like that a few times per year

Messi is in a league of his own right now. People should be comparing Penaldo to Suarez, not Messi. Peak Penaldo vs. peak Suarez is a very close comparison; Penaldo's peak has been longer, though.

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This is simple.

Pele-Maradona-Messi
Pele-Messi-Maradona
Maradona-Pele-Messi
Maradona-Messi-Pele
Messi-Pele-Maradona
Messi-Maradona-Pele

Choose the order that you want. The differences between these three are minimal.
It's a technical tie.

Newbies will look at tittles only.

>>76494630
i look at titties only desu

>>76494729
>tittles
throphies.

Trophies in spanish is literally = trofeos or títulos (tittles).

My bad anon, but the idea is clear.
The difference between these 3 and the rest are evident. But the differences among Pele, Messi and Diego are subtle.

>>76462061
Cruyff doesn't have any WC titles, fucking moron

>>76462379
He carried Argentina to the world cup finals, shithead

>>76461902
why isnt David Beckham on the list

>dutch like someone who never won a world cup

made me ponder

>>76494835
It's TITLES in English too, you sperg

>>76462879
Shit opinion, discarded

>>76494630
>The differences between these three are minimal.
It's a technical tie.

Maradona 1 WC (carried a average team to win)
Pele 3 WC (stacked teams)
>messi 0 WC

>>76463056
dude he literally fucks real madrid in every clasico

>>76465589
Yes, post a pic of your face

>>76465836
>scores against real madrid
>worth nothing

Go watch handegg

>>76468397
1/10 made me reply

>>76495373
You can't rely on trophies anon. That's for newbies.

Just watch them play.
There was never 3 players like themin the history.

Messi is in between Pele and Maradona regarding the style, qualities and characteristics. It's like a mix, but more closer to Pele, he share more characteristic with the brazilian. Maradona was more beautiful in his game than Pele or Messi. Leo and Pele are more pragmatic.

But they all have their own subtle style and registred movements.

>>76469032
Form me (I watch football since 1996). In their prime (so goodbye Maradona, Baggio or Laudrup for me):

1. Messi
2. Iniesta
3. Ronaldinho
4. Zidane
5. Riquelme
6. Ronaldo Nazario

I think the original Ronaldo should be in my top 3, but I like "enganches" over forwards.

>>76469858
Based burger. Impressive.

But you undervalue Pele.

>>76472177
Maradona was not an enganche in Argentinos uniors, or Napoli for example.

He played as mediapunta or even as 9 (with Menotti, in Barcelona).

He was always a forward, just like Messi or Pele.

So yes, you can compare Messi and Maradona. You can't put Ronaldo (the real one) in that comparison.

>>76472923
Imbecile chauvinist

>>76473172
He was the most magical of them all. But not the best.

He's is in my top 5-10 anyways.
>>76473513
*fedora tip

Nice played

>>76475505
Pele scored no more than 800 official goals.

And there was offside in the 60s.

It was as competitive as current football, they defend in a poorly way, but they were more brutal. They compensate their limitations with brutal fouls.

>>76466352
>>76466366
i think this is the best top of this thread

>>76484876
Love you, I get horny with that beautiful flag.

>>76485600
We are talking about talent and what they did with the ball. Trophies and other things like that are accesories.

Cruyff is simple not in the level of Pele, Messi or Diego.

>>76462098
Based af burger. Based af...
*clap clap*

>>76497182
*It was NOT as competitive as current football

>>76466352
>influence in history of football
>Cristiano Ronaldo

C'Mon anon. C'mon...

>>76497685
titles,records and at the end of his career with all media everyone will remember him as one of the greatest
i just don't put messi in front of him cause he doesn't have a title with NT

No one can handle the ball like Messi
the man has like 5 seperate eyes and a radar on top of his head. He's full autist.

>>76497685
True Beckham should be on the list.

>>76466352
I cant believe my compatriot has so much reason

But Maradona should be in that top 5

>>76497897
The history of the game belong to the great players. Not "record hunters".

Football has been too generous with such a limited player.

Football and his history belong to Messi, Pele, Maradona, Riquelme, Zico, Ronaldo Nazario, Di Stefano, Laudrup, Iniesta, Baggio, Zidane, Cruyff, Platini, Ronaldinho, etc.

You should compare Cristiano with Muller, Batistuta, Shevchenko, Suarez, etc.

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http://www.sport-english.com/en/news/real-madrid/cristiano-ronaldo-yes-faggot-but-very-rich-one-5641409
>"Koke, he called me a faggot," Ronaldo said. "I said yes, yes, a faggot. But a very rich one, shithead."

>>76473172
If only he wasn't so lazy.

If you unironically believe that Messi is greater than Maradona you should either definitely kill yourself right fucking now or you are underage.

The things Maradona did with the ball on shit pitches, the way he always knew EXACTLY how hard he would pass the ball and where his teammates where is fucking impossible.

Maradona and Roberto Baggio would be my top 2 of all time. Anyone who don't agree is a faggot and don't know shit about football. You have sandnigger tier knowledge.

>>76461902
>1. Lionel Messi (Argentina).
>2. Diego Armando Maradona (Argentina).
>3. Johan Cruyff (Holland).
>4. Pelé (Brazil).
>5. Alfredo Di Stéfano (Spain/Argentina).

Although you can dispute the order I'm actually ok with this as a top 5

>>76502224

How's this a counter-argument? And does he think Koke is poor or what? This fucking faggot man.

And Moot was person of the year, like Obama or Hitler.

Lionel Messi is unique because you could play him on any position of the field except defense line and goalkeeper, and he would be the best player in the world or at least Top 3 on every position, and he will play that position with consistency and almost never gets injured. Messi would be a better 6 that Sergio Busquets, a better 8 than Xavi was, a better 10 than Iniesta, and obviously the best winger and the best false 9, real 9 and false 10.

>>76461902
Where's his world cup

>>76465184
Because Argentina is a media overhyped meme.

>>76465184
Urguay won them when nobody played the sport.

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>>76465184

>>76506142
I'd only argue about Messi being the best real 9, it just isn't his position. He'd still be better than 99% of the 9's today tho.

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>>76461902
not read this thread but I'm assuming it's full of crying delusional tsuufags?