Is it time to finally rate this Man?

12/10

Not until he actually builds a squad from scratch and win something with them.

>>76310533
headbutt/10

:^)

Yeah Juventus started better but he made tactical adjustments and choked em up the pitch.

Pretty good desu

>>76310600
shut up

>>76310600
what fucking manager has done this

dont give me some shit that happened in the early fergie era or earlier than that because the game has changed

>>76311486
>Who is Klopp

>>76311527
no

>>76311486

Cryuff

Then Rijkaard

Then Guardiola took over Rijkaard's squat and built upon that to even greater success.

Basically Barcelona and Ajax.

>>76310533
/sp/ won't rate him because /sp/ is absolutely always wrong.

>>76311527

>Klopp
>No CL to his name
>one more league title than Zidane despite managing for like 15 years

Klopp confirmed for little baller

>>76310533
GO/AT

>>76314161
Name another recent manager then who built a team and won back to back league titles. He literally came first in a one horse league.

Plus he took a shit tier Liverpool team, definitely the worst big 6 squad rn, and got them a CL spot.

>>76314161
Nobody said anything about winning CL. Of course if Klopp would have won it he'd literally be the best manager currently.

Zidane inherited one of the best teams in the world. You'd have to try really hard not to win with it.

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>>76310533
>*wins the el La Liga*
>*wins the la 12th decima*
>*writes football history by being the first to defend the la decima title*

i, dare i say it, rate zidane

captcha: bridges

>>76313751
>Rijkard
>build a team

he inherited a squad with Puyol, Xavi, Iniesta, Van Bronkhurst, Ronaldinho, Valdes and Messi in the youth team

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>>76314286

On the account of Arsenal slipping on the last day. They could easily have gotten third if Klopp had known how to beat the smaller teams.

Klopp is managing Sliperpoop and not a big club for a reason and that's because it's his level. He's not even doing that good of a job there

>>76311486
wenga

Everybody important rates Zidane.

He will get over the fact that many on 4chang /sp/ don't rate him.


>https://www.nst.com.my/sports/football/2017/06/245417/zidane-back-among-immortals

>>76314463
Still, it was Rijkaard who assembled the pieces and built a CL-winning side. Barcelona had three different coaches in three seasons before his arrival, which adds up to Frank's case as the staple of such continued success. Also, presidents of Madrid and Barça have a bigger say on transfers respect to coaches than Premier League owners have over their managers; for instance, Ronaldinho was signed thanks to then-vicepresident Rosell and his contacts in a popular sportswear brand.

>juv paid lose again
wew

>>76310533

Everyone rates.

It's just /sp/ that never fails at getting absolutely KEKED AND BAZINGA'ED hard every single fucking time.

>http://www.espnfc.com/video/espn-fc-tv/86/video/3137615/exclusive-del-piero-didnt-expect-zidanes-success

>>76311486
Matt Bubsy

when will clubs realize that coaches who've been players in the last 20 years are better than 60 year olds who last played in the 70s?

>>76311486
Cruyff, Rijkaard, Fergie, Wenger, Mourinho, Simeone, Conte

>>76310600
Guardiola never did and everyone rides on his dick

>>76313751
>guardebiolel

Not until he creates a new team, scouts the youth players, develops them and works his way up to a first division title, a treble and a CL

>>76320167
And now everyone sees him for the fraud that he is after he got exposed by Brenny's Celtic in September.

>>76320167
Nah, everyone always says he's been exposed in the PL.

Zidane, come to the PL and get exposed like that other bald cunt.

rebuilding real will be the true test. otherwise he'll be a mourinho, good, but never great

>>76318400
kek this

Aren't soccer managers the most worthless position in sports?

He's the GOAT manager for Madrid. You don't manage a team like Madrid like any other side, they're full of egos, Zidane however gets tons of respect for being an amazing player who's been with the club for awhile in a coaching role. He lets the players do their thing and guides them towards it.

>If it wasn't due lack and all those injuries Madrid wpuld have won 4 CL in 4 years
Literally Di Stefano tier

>>76323705
Depends they can be either a figurhead like Zidane working with a team that manages itself or tactical geniuses who revolutionize the game like Guardiola. You also have the good managers here and there who find ways of making smaller teams competitive like Simeone.
You need a very good manager to make an impact but a relatively poor manager can ruin a team.

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>beating Juve in a Euro final

>Winning a CL with Real Madrid against a team of eternal chokers
>Impressive

>>76318091
Good answer actually

>>76310600
every manager should have a year at sunderland

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>>76310533
No. Never.

>>76310600
Benitez had the same squad and he crashed and burned.

>>76310533
/Sp/ wont rate him because hes black

>>76325563
Benitez is a shit manager. Zidane is a good manager but he's not a great manager yet.

>>76311486
Bill Shankly

>>76323622
Mourinho did fuck all with a better stacked Real.

Is fair to say that Zidane has done a much better work than Benitez, Ancelotti and Mou.

He is elite, everybody must rate elite coaches.

>>76325745
Zidane is white.

>>76310533
Has to do something similar at another club first.

>wins 2 CL in a row
>keep moving the goalposts to deny his success

>>76310533
We, simple humans, are unable to rate a god. We just can praise him.

>>76325947
It's no different from Pep. What he did at Barcelona was very impressive but in his first real test at City he's failed. Zidane needs to be judged in the same way.

he looks way more aryan than the avg german today, so, yes.

>>76326013
He has this dominant sexual aura about him. Can easily see why ladies swoon over him so much.

>>76325990
For that Zidane would also have to make the grave mistake of leaving for Manchester City. I don't see him ever leaving to another club when he is already at the top, maybe his national team?

City and Paris have resources but they will never be truly elite.

I think Guardiola disappointed more with Buyern since they are actually a team that can win the CL, but he failed at that.

>>76324240
>beating Barca in a Euro final

wow it's fucking impossible seeing as those little cucks got BTFO by juve

>>76326054
>tf
KEK

>halftime talk
>headbutts anyone in disagreement
>wins game
tis a fine tactic, as a manager at least

>>76310533
TSU/10

>>76325789
>>76325563
>Benitez was manager for Real Madrid for a few months

KEK

I completely forgot haha

>>76326529
that was not even a year and a half ago. football is such a weird sport.

>>76311486
me in fm

If he hadn't been working as Perez's personal secretary for years getting to know the staff and players before getting hands-on experience without responsibility as an assistant manager, he wouldn't have won shit. All he basically has to do is not to piss off the ego players and accept the help from experienced backroom staff, and the team will be among the favourites to win every cup and league.

>>76326529
>Rafa Benitez went from managing Real Madrid to managing a Championship team within the space of a few months

>>76311486
clough and taylor

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>>76326464
hey, as long as it works

I'll rate when he will beat a big club in the finale