/nfl/ general - IMPENDING JUNE edition

Hi.

>>76223900
Raiders

>>76223928
hi cutie

Cuck the fowboys

>>76223886

The owners did, but to quote wikipedia

> In 1995, owner Art Modell, who had purchased the Browns in 1961, announced plans to move the team to Baltimore, Maryland. After threats of legal action from the city of Cleveland and fans, a compromise was reached in early 1996 that allowed Modell to establish the Baltimore Ravens as a new franchise while retaining the contracts of all Browns personnel. The Browns' intellectual property, including team name, logos, training facility, and history, were kept in trust and the franchise was regarded by the NFL as suspended. A new team would be established by 1999 either by expansion or relocation. The Browns were announced as an expansion team in 1998 and resumed play in 1999.[13]

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>>76223932
yes

So the Jets are finishing 1-15 right?

>>76223963
<3

>>76224237
3-13 and they don't get the top pick.

>>76224256
What are those 3 wins? Because the only winnable game I see is the Jags

>>76224317
Jacksonville, @ Cleveland and another random game so they don't get the #1.

I predict the Falcons will make the playoffs.

>>76224421
I believe the Busc will take the South and represent them in the playoffs

>>76224237
Yeah. They'll "Suck for Sam" so they can take Darnold.

Give me one reason the Eagles aren't taking the East.

>>76224658

Cowboys

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>>76223932
Thank you based Carr

>>76224658
Giants

>>76224658
Redskins

>>76224658
Wentz

>>76224658
Eagles

>>76224658
The corners you stupid nigger, just accept 8-8 this year and being an elite defense in 2018 if Jones + Douglas are even serviceable

Damn Ike Taylor just said that the Jags have better DBs than no-fly zone.
Is Ike a closet Jag fan?

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>>76225257
>sleeping on the jags

>>76225257
a lot younger defensive backs

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>>76225289
YOU BETTER TREAT SOUP GOOD!
I LOVE THAT BIG BLACK TEDDY BEAR.
Oh and you're welcome for what he'll do during games against Seattle.

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>During the ’16 season, the coordinator and quarterback held Tuesday game-planning sessions (like Manning used to) designed to give the triggerman ownership of the plan for Sunday. And now, as I understand it, the coaches are actually teaching the offense through Stafford. What does that mean? Stafford gets coached, and he coaches his teammates through that coaching, which would seem to be that process coming full-circle.

>>76225997
Bilal powell would be a good coach too

>>76226057
he would need a team of capable players to coach

>>76225257
just a typical tard generating headlines before a season.

>>76225777
There are young backs coming up behind the older ones in Denver.

example: Bradley Roby would start on any other team. Including the Jags

I want to be a fan of an NFL team.

Which team do you recommend?

Does anyone know when season 2 of All or Nothing comes out? I wanna see Fisher get canned

>>76226142
>Bradley Roby would start on any other team

Okay, lol.

>>76226155
Saskatchewan Roughriders.

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>>76226155
do you hate green bay?
they are pretty cool guys.

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>>76226196
That team is the Canadian Football League (CFL)

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Football_League

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Football_League


And I'm already a fan of that team

>>76226219
Because they do not play in milwaukee

Green bay is a village of crap

>>76226196
whats wrong with Bradley Roby

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>>76226255

green bay is cool you nerd >:(

>>76226240
Okay, okay. Any team is good or there are boxes you want to check?

>>76226263
Nothing. Just that he wouldn't start on every team.

>>76226284
In this image is my opinion of Green Bay


The green bay is a Fucking freezer

>>76226331
Is "Invisible Özil" still a meme?

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>>76226284
>>76226343

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will he ever be good?

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>>76226331
>>76226366

the snow and cold are great. we are blessed to experience all of the natures seasons.
besides, Milwaukee is as much of a freezer as Green Bay honestly.

>>76226155

>costa rica

raiders are central america's team

>>76226407
Snow and winter are a fucking bitch.

It is better to live in a place that is warm all year round.


And besides, Milwaukee is at least the largest city in wisconsin, there should be equipment in the NFL.


Not in that green bay shit

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>>76226441

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>>76226155
>>76226255
texans, cowboys, raiders, rams, chargers, cardinals, dolphins, niners
all those teams have a numerous hispanic fanbase and are despised for it. enjoy bbqing in a jersey year round and an awful black ink only tattoo of the teams logo compa.

SF: 49ers working out free agent S Jairus Byrd
man what happened to him? did he get paid and just stop caring or did he just get really injured and fall off after getting paid?

>>76226447
>warm all year round

That's actually hell.

>>76226482
I prefer an NFL team that is in a place where people prefer MLS (Major League Soccer) and Soccer.


That is an NFL team, which is not at all popular, and that this place where soccer is the favorite pastime of people

>>76226543
Wait until the Seahawks suck so all the bandwagoners switch to the Sounders then.

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>>76226447
*Snow and winter are a fucking great!

cant wait to go to historic lambeau field for another snow game ;^)

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>this is the last season the bucs will be seen as scrappy underdogs and lovable losers
>tfw /nfl/ is going to hate the bucs soon because of their impending dynasty
it hurts

i'm going to miss being so well-liked

>>76226570
But the Seahawks already won a super bowl.


But that is a team that is a place where they have only been champions in the MLS cup

They have never won a super bowl.

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>>76226543

The Houston Dynamo have won the MLS championship. Divegrass will never be bigger than anything in murrica ever though.

But consider us Texans breh.

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>>76226543
>That is an NFL team, which is not at all popular, and that this place where soccer is the favorite pastime of people
doesnt exist. maybe portland. used to be seattle kinda but all those chinese jumped on the bandwagon.

go with the 49ers. they have the highest concentration of homosexuals and foreign nationals in the fanbase.
>I prefer an NFL team that is in a place where people prefer MLS (Major League Soccer) and Soccer.
yeah and I wanna live in the Costa Rican city famous for the culture and arts. the place with all the museums and symphony performances and the well read literate populace discuss books in the local cafe's.

>>76226575
you shut up.

The snow is horrible, and winter is a fucking bitch

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>>76226667
winter is a cute angel and the snow are her gentle kisses

>>76226663
so?

Is there any place in the united states. Where only soccer is the most popular sport, and where Major League Soccer (MLS) is the only dominant professional league?

A place in the USA, where MLS and soccer are a lot more popular than the NFL, MLB, NBA and NHL all combined

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>>76226708
Well, enjoy your shit cooler.


PS: Florida is the best state of all

>>76226740
No.

And why do you want a team in a city where the MLS is more popular.

>>76226371
Is that Agholor? Agholor will never be good. If he gets over his mental hangups though, he might end up decent though. I do not foresee a future where any team will still go to him as their primary or secondary target willingly though.

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>>76226757
>when this guy is the most vocal Jags fan on /sp/

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>>76226757

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>>76226851
I like this image

>>76226757
But its shaped like a flaccid, uncircumcised penis.

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Never forget

>>76226605
iktfb. i'm a seahawk fan and it wasn't easy to watch /sp/ turn on us after 2013

keep your head up bucsbro

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just a friendly reminder the jets drafted this guy with haha clinton dix still on board

>>76227380
>Jets making a bad pick

And in other news water still is wet.

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>>76227380
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZxNeFLuY98
lole

>>76223900
>TB: Bucs K Aguayo's struggles continue into OTAs
why does he suck so much bros?

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I'm a Falcons fan and Bucs are winning the NFC South

Also Jamies >> Matty poo pants

#RiseUp

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>tfw as a seahawk fag knowing this season is probably going to be a disaster featuring one or more of these things:
>sherman losing his shit like a tard
>the offense being complete crap
>bevell being retarded
>defense getting destroyed while the offense does work OR
>offense gets destroyed while the defense does work
>some shit about the goal line interception

>>76227552
Who's the latest kicker picked in a valuable round that's not been a bust?

>>76227588
>defense getting destroyed while the offense does work
>offense does work

Excuse me, is there another Seahawks team with a good offense that I don't know of?

>used to volunteer at a center working with special needs young adults
>high functioning tards but you can still tell they arent all there
>have their own tard language that they all understand despite being gibberish
>same 10 conversations everyday
>place was a real shithole and the manager was never around
>when he was he was just as bad as the tards
>finally start getting tired of it as watching these idiots is becoming too much of a chore
>they seem to be regressing mentally
>log out of the NFL diacord and never go back

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>>76227535
>>76227478
>>76227380
to be fair the jets suffered from snowflake Im smarter than everyone front office syndrome. like when jerry ran things with the cowboys. taking the obscure 30 to 1 odds on a guy instead of the sure thing to prove how much smarter they were than everyone.
at least al davis went by measurables on dudes.

>>76227637
what team do you root for again?

>>76227637

>Excuse me, is there another Seahawks team with a good offense that I don't know of?

There have been a few games where the seahawks offense tried to go ham but the defense literally shit itself inside out.

most notably the playoffs against the falcons back when russell was a rookie.

>>76227671
Will it change your life and experience in this thread if I tell you?

>>76227707
yes

>>76227706
Well, that game was more than 4 years ago. The most recent showcastings of that offense haven't been that promising, and they haven't added any playmakers that can make you think they can turn it around. Wilson being 100% will help but...

>>76227637
>Who's the latest kicker picked in a valuable round that's not been a bust?

Janikowski, though he was shit in his first year too.

>>76227736
If you're so interested, I root for the team that's closest to me geographically.

>>76227808

I see, when was the last time you were in the United States?

>>76227808
Ravens? Good man

>>76227661
You did it for free?

Eagles are going to be pretty good this year and there is nothing you can do about it

>>76227856
what if wentz is still shit?

>>76227842
Having been in the US isn't a requirement to watch the NFL.

>>76227846
Geography is hard.

>>76227856
Nothing but sit and watch how their secondary is murdered.

Just be okay with Wentz being actually good.

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>>76227856

>>76227910
>Having been in the US isn't a requirement to watch the NFL.

No need to get so defensive!

I've been a lifelong pats fan over the last 3 years too

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How many pro-bowlers do you think your team will have?

>7

>>76227588
What was with them and the Cardinals last year? They had the most meme game ever and then that farce of a second game where they fell asleep for the first half.

>>76227910
No one know where your shit country is

>>76227972
Please, they've been good long enough to allow me to be a bandwagoner for longer than three years.

>>76227990
Everybody knows Spain is a little state in Mexico.

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>>76227985
9

>>76227985
0 since the Ravens will be in the super bowl

>>76227986

NFC West football, at least in games involving the Seahawks. Maybe they take place in an alternate dimension or something. The game a couple years ago where the Rams faked out the entire special teams on a kickoff stands out in my head as one of the goofiest things to happen on a football field in recent memory.

>>76228007
wow another stupid pats fan who's never even been to the U.S.

color me surprised

>>76228086
Source?

>>76228093
That's not true, I've actually been to the United (Mexican) States.

And why do you even care, I haven't even mentioned the Patriots since I was here last offseason.

>>76227985
i love you lee but that hoverhand

>>76228129

Don't have a webbum, this will have to do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SINRnD-cZDo

Not every division game is like this, but it seems like a 50/50 shot that it'll be a blowout or the Seahawks will be caught jellydicking and some bizarre shit goes down, especially against the Rams.

>>76228269
I'm on my phone so that worked nicely

And that was pretty clever, I have to admit

>>76228269

Jeff fishers rams had a hard on for the seahawks. they would destroy them every damn time.

I don't know why or how but they did.

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>>76228269
I remember the Bears doing the same once when Hester was there, but some flag ruined the touchdown.

>>76227535
>Fullback
>OHHHHHHH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Holy fucking kek.

>Fans literally chanting they want Sapp, a future HOFer
>Pick some shitty TE

The JUTS are so fucking funny. I love it

>>76228304

I'm pretty worried about the coming season. The line is unlikely to be better, Aaron Donald is still there, and Wade Philips is their coordinator now. There's a high chance Wilson finally goes down for the season, and if Kaepernick makes starts this year that will basically be the last nail for the team as it is now.

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Minnesota Vikings Sign Tommy Armstrong QB from Nebraska
>look it up to see if its real
>it is, holy shit are they ever gonna learn?
>read article
>they tried him out at QB and plan to move him to Safety
they want tommy armstrong to play safety
this season is already a fucking joke but maybe I should be glad they didnt even give him a shot at QB

>>76228433
> There's a high chance Wilson finally goes down for the season

wilson is fucked. the OL is such trash at this point I expect within 3-4 games that wilson will get killed.

at least then I hope the OL/offense gets fixed.

>>76228433
>>76228524
Are the Seahawks really planning to play Joeckel at tackle? (Well, playing him at all is a bad idea anyway.)

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Is Sherman Elite?

>>76227706
Against the Steelers, against the card week 16, against the Bills

>>76228541

they honestly can't do any worse at this point. the seahawks offensive line has been a mess since 2014.

>>76228541
Fant will start the season.

Link the discord and no one gets hurt.

>>76228541

Who the fuck knows, most early indicators have shown they want him at guard but it will probably be an unsettled clusterfuck the entire year. Tom Cable is a good coach but it seems like everyone is way too high on his abilities to squeeze blood from rocks. Letting Max Unger go was a mistake, the Seahawks o-line is the football equivalent of of a rednecks yard full of junker "project" cars.

>>76228542
no, he always covers second or third receivers and then brags about how few times they get balls thrown their way.

IE: he does very little.
Plays less talented guys and doesn't have to defend as many attempts.

Where as nearly all of those are corners go up against number 1's every week.

>>76228641
Yeah but they should actually try to improve it instead of signing the worst lineman from the Jags and hope he actually learns how to play...

>>76228693
>Max Unger

I always thought that trade was really bad for the Hawks. And it seemed obvious Graham wasn't going to mix well in their offense.

>>76228708
I see this still is a meme.

>>76227588
>Reminder that the Seasquawks deserve all of those

>>76227661
>Describing the Ravens front office in green text.

Detroit Lions.

>>76227662
Al Davis gets a bad rap he had a team playing in the post season every decade since the 70s and the only decade he missed being in the SB was the 90s, and held the record for most afccg wins did he press a bit in his old age? Yeah sure but still.
>>76228086
The division knows it's opponents very well and the only team with a decent vertical passing game was the cards so the games tend to be slug fests decided by defense and special teams.
>T. Nanners fan

>>76228789

>I always thought that trade was really bad for the Hawks. And it seemed obvious Graham wasn't going to mix well in their offense.

most everyone knew it was a bad idea. Unger held the entire line together with experience that's what centers fucking do.

Graham is a great player but either bevell or wilson are unable or unwilling to use him enough to warrant the trade. It has been a few years now and the trade has not shown any good dividends relative to the massive loss the OL now has.

>>76228947
Yeah, not saying Graham is a bad player but for a team that based its offense on power running with Lynch + Wilson improvisation a TE that can't block and isn't used to scramble drills doesn't mesh well. And if the idea was being more pass oriented... well, you need your QB to have time so still it doesn't make sense.

Oldbay is a backwards toothless hick mopping floors to buy vidya games.

>>76229010

I think Schneider would take it back if he could. Counting on your coaches to develop cheap and immediately effective draft picks and cast offs when the entire league is having problems developing guys with high pedigrees is probably not the best plan, something that's probably more obvious now than it was a few years ago. Experience seems to count a lot more on the line than it does at other positions, especially with college ball being what it is. It'll be interesting to see how the next CBA shakes out to address this sort of shit.

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>>76228494
Oh fuck UT was right

Check out my captcha

>>76228494
Honestly you should start Tommy Blarmstrong at QB. Badford is shit so you might as well try.

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Rich Gannon was elite
Flaccid needs to be more like Gannon and play west coast instead of FUCK IT I'M GOING DEEP

Why can't the Texans find a QB?

>>76229474
Rich Gannon was really good but not on the level of eliteness of the last 20 years' top guys.

>Flaccid needs to be more like Gannon and play west coast instead of FUCK IT I'M GOING DEEP

That's almost like saying that Peyton should've scrambled more like Wilson. Gannon couldn't play a more vertical offense because he lacked arm strenght and Flacco most likely lacks the mentality to dink and dunk.

>>76229501
Finding a QB is hard.

They drafted one this year though.

>>76228494
Good to see my memes being put to good use

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>>76228789
The trade turned out fine seeing as the Seahawks a good center in Britt and Jimmy has helped their offense. People don't realize the Seahawks needed a red zone target badly in 2014 and Unger missed a lot of games. Jimmy is now a pivotal part of the offense. At the time the trade was the right one to make and I stand by it. The Seahawks O-line would have been bad with or without Unger.

>>76229607
I'm Jimmy was a fucking worthless signing. You can't change my mind either.

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Hmm...

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The only players left from NFL street who are still playing

>Terrell Suggs
>Julius Peppers
>Drew Brees
>Tom Brady
>Carson Palmer

And technically these guys arent retired, just free agents
>Mike Vick
>Anquan Boldin
>Dwight Freeney

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Scored this on eBay today. Got it for about a third of its market value and all the right tags were on it so I know it isn't a chinkshit bootleg.

Did I do good /sp/?

>>76229607
Unger has missed like one or two games since he's been in New Orleans, Jimmy missed a great chunk last year because of injury and he's not been the pivotal player they were paying for. His trade forced a shift in the system and it surely hasn't gone as planned. Now you have an expensive red zone target who has scored in 2 seasons in Seattle less TDs than in any season in New Orleans (except for his rookie year). The Hawks lost not only a center, also a first rounder. Overall like >>76229269 says if Schneider could go back in time and stop the trade he would.

>>76229734
I can't believe Julius Peppers is still playing at even an acceptable level. The man is old as fuck.

>>76229734
Vick retired

>>76223932
10/10 post

>>76229819
I wasnt sure
Hes been bouncing around

Who's going to win league MVP this year considering that nobody wants to win it now thanks to the League MVP Super Bowl Curse?

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how many TDs would prime Peyton's brain in prime Vick's body throw and rush for?

>>76229951
streaks are meant to be broken

>>76229951
>>76229978
I will win MVP and choke in the first round so I can save myself the embarrassment of losing the Super Bowl. -DC

AFCE
NE 13-3
NYJ 6-10
MIA 5-11
BUF 4-12

AFCN
PIT 12-4
BAL 9-6-1
CIN 5-10-1
CLE 2-14

AFCW
OAK 11-5
KC 10-6
DEN 7-9
SD 5-11

AFCS
IND 8-8
HOU 8-8
TEN 7-9
JAX 6-10

NFCE
NYG 11-5
DAL 10-6
WAS 8-8
PHI 7-9

NFCN
GB 14-2
DET 10-6
CHI 6-10
MIN 6-10

NFCW

SEA 11-5
LA 7-9
ARZ 3-13
SF 2-14

NFCS
NO 12-4
CAR 8-8
TB 5-11
ATL 4-12

>>76229978
does he get Vick's accuracy issues?

>>76229990
Rip Death Cryant

>>76230015
No. He just gets Vick's arm strength.

>>76230056
No it's me, Derek.

>>76229990
>Dalvin Cuck
>winning MVP

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>>76230006
>MIA 5-11

>>76230081
Derek Carrier? Pls don't blow this for the niners

>>76230109
You are doo for major regression stupid..

>>76230081
>not Dexter Coil

>>76230123
Care to elaborate?

>>76230139
Your team is gonna regress due to their significantly tougher schedule, QB play, overall offense

>>76230139
your schedule was soft as fuck last year and had one(1) win against a team with a winning record, and that team exposed you in the playoffs

>>76230139
>>76230156

Your stupid i dont need to relaborate.

>>76230006
>SD

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What round in the draft are you guys picking stoner mCgee Martavis Bryant?

What happened to Jonas Grey?

>>76230006
>Jest in 2nd place
>Miami just 5 wins
>Cincy just 5 wins
>Denver with a negative record
>GB with the best overall record
>Chicago 6 wins
>LA 7 wins
>Arizona just 3
>NO 12 wins
>TB and Atlanta both sucking that bad

>>76230139
I don't think Miami will be in the playoffs next year but at most they'll be back to comfortable mediocrity and a 7-9 or 8-8 record.

>>76230281
he accidentally had one good game

>>76226543
I know your waiting for this.
STOP POSTING THIS QUESTION IN EVERY FUCKING NFL GENERAL YOU PRINCIPALITY PIECE OF SHIT!

>>76230281
He had one good game, overslept and Psychopath Bill never forgives. He's cursed for all of eternity.

That, or he's actually bad and 2014 Colts sucked so much against the run I could go for >150 yards and a couple of TDs if given the chance.

>>76230156
I'd counter by saying that they addressed almost all of their defensive needs in the offseason, re-signed all of their important FAs, the team won't have to learn a new system, and the schedule isn't as bad as people think. Run defense will be the biggest deciding factor.

>>76230161
Why didn't they expose the team in the regular season?

>>76230172
Very good point

>>76230286
>Comfortable mediocrity
There's nothing comfortable about it

>>76230372
>Why didn't they expose the team in the regular season?

because it was in Miami and the steelers are known to shit the bed on the road

>>76230006
>NO 12-4
>niggawhat.jpeg
Do they even have a defense yet or do they just hope the super dome will flood again?

>>76230372
There is for people that root for other teams in the division.

Miami actually could very well start on a great run now that I checked the calendar. If they win the opener vs Tampa it's very easy to see them 3-0 with two beatable games against NO and Tennessee. You need to win as many games as possible in the front end of your calendar though because since the game against the Falcons there are almost no easy weeks.

>>76230489
>with two beatable games against NO and Tennessee (NEXT)*

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>>76230421
So then while we're making excuses, I'll say that Miami limped into the playoffs missing almost all of their starting linebackers and secondary (Alonso was the only starting LB who played and even he was playing with a broken hand) as well as Pouncey and Tannehill, and they also played on the road in Pittsburgh.

>>76230489
Baltimore always has Miami's number, and I don't expect Raiders or Panthers to be wins (Panthers will bounce back this season). I'd really like Miami to beat Denver to make up for the last time they played.

>>76230613
everyone gets injuries, to say the dolphins have arrived is nothing short of recency bias.

They crashed and burned after 2008, most surprise teams in the playoffs overachieved and go back to being crap the next few seasons.

It's the same with people acting like the Falcons and Cowboys should be favored to win the NFC despite a very inconsistent track record.

>>76230613
Richie Incognito died for your sins. Yet you will still not avenge him because the Phins cannot win without Don Shula in charge.

>>76230613
I could see you starting 5-0 and still miss the playoffs or barely limp into them. Since week 6 I only see Miami as favorites in the three games against NYJ + Buffalo, the rest is either a 50/50 or you look as big underdogs. But we'll see, maybe Oakland regress this season and it's easier than on paper for example, or Denver still doesn't fix its offense, or Carolina doesn't bounce back the way you (and me) think they're gonna do.

Going to bed m8s, night to y'all.

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>>76230675
Yeah, and teams tend to play worse on the road, too. I'm just saying that beating a team doesn't always equate to exposing them. Obviously every team in the playoffs had injuries that they had to deal with. Miami was able to get a taste of the playoffs last season, and given that they've gained much more than they lost during the offseason, I don't see why they can't make it again.

>>76230676
I miss him. Fuck Martin.

>>76230808
One of these dudes bowed out of the league in three years and one of these dudes is being blackballed from joining any real teams.

>>76230808
they can make the playoffs again, it's more likely they go back to being an 8-8 team.

your history says the dolphins are not to be trusted.

>>76230848
I think it's been long enough that any team would be happy to sign a Pro Bowl guard at this point.

>>76230855
Fuck history, Dolphins fans haven't been able to be this optimistic in nearly a decade and I'm gonna run with it.

>>76230899
thats fine with being optimistic, doesn't mean i have to humor you

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Look how happy they are together!

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>>76231150
how much is carr going to get?

24 mil per year? seems like hes really pressuring the raiders

>>76231190
Watched that earlier.

He throws some great BALLS, I tell y'what.

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Oh my kek

>Speaking after Tuesday's OTA, coach Sean McVay said "whoever we feel like gives us the best chance to win football games" is going to start at quarterback.

>"Right now, we feel really good about what they've both [Jared Goff and Sean Mannion] done," McVay continued. "Jared's done a nice job of getting better, but you always want to make sure you're playing the guy that you feel like gives you the best ability to win football games. Right now, Jared is the starter." It was a tepid endorsement from McVay. It's important to remember that McVay has zero ties to Goff; he didn't use the No. 1 pick on him, and Mannion has drawn some strong reviews from coaches this offseason. In D.C., McVay was part of the staff that favored fourth-rounder Kirk Cousins over No. 2 overall pick Robert Griffin III.

>>76231301
Holy Jared Goff is such a bust that he doesn't even get a chance for a sophomore season.

>>76231301
I give credit to the coaching staff

not all have the stones to be blunt and honest

>>76231260
It'll probably be something similar to what Luck got i'd imagine

>ASJ
>been sober for 129 days
>lost 25 pounds
>contract year
>4.56 speed
>6f5

maybe just maybe

>>76231676
yeah i'd figure. He's definitely earned it. it's always interesting to see how the next big qb contract is going to set the market.

>>76223928
Are you a Bears fan by any chance? I think I might know you lmao. I know a Spanish Bears fan who lives in Barcelona so I was wondering if this is you kek

>>76231301
>Les Snead still has a job

I know the owner doesn't give a shit about the team, especially with the LA move stuff happening, but god damn man.

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Post kino uniform patches

>>76232171
>>76232197
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>>76232231
Spamming is against the rules.

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>>76232363

>>76232383

>Not posting Lester Hayes or Fred Biletnikoff trying to make this joke

Casual spotted

you get 200$ to put on a team to win the owl.
free money. who you putting it on?
New England Patriots +$350 (7 to 2)
Dallas Cowboys +$1,000 (10 to 1)
Green Bay Packers +$1,200 (12 to 1)
Seattle Seahawks +$1,200 (12 to 1)
Atlanta Falcons +$1,300 (13 to 1)
Houston Texans +$1,500 (15 to 1)
Oakland Raiders +$1,500 (15 to 1)
Denver Broncos +$1,800 (18 to 1)
Pittsburgh Steelers +$1,800 (18 to 1)
New York Giants +$2,200 (22 to 1)
Kansas City Chiefs +$2,500 (25 to 1)
Carolina Panthers +$3,000 (30 to 1)
Indianapolis Colts +$3,000 (30 to 1)
Minnesota Vikings +$3,000 (30 to 1)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers +$3,000 (30 to 1)
Arizona Cardinals +$3,200 (32 to 1)
Baltimore Ravens +$4,000 (40 to 1)
New Orleans Saints +$5,000 (50 to 1)
Philadelphia Eagles +$5,000 (50 to 1)
Tennessee Titans +$5,000 (50 to 1)
Cincinnati Bengals +$5,500 (55 to 1)
Miami Dolphins +$6,000 (60 to 1)
Washington Redskins +$6,000 (60 to 1)
Detroit Lions +$7,000 (70 to 1)
Los Angeles Chargers +$8,000 (80 to 1)
Buffalo Bills +$9,000 (90 to 1)
Jacksonville Jaguars +$9,000 (90 to 1)
Chicago Bears +$12,500 (125 to 1)
Los Angeles Rams +$15,000 (150 to 1)
New York Jets +$15,000 (150 to 1)
Cleveland Browns +$30,000 (300 to 1)
San Francisco 49ers +$30,000 (300 to 1)

>>76232487
Panthers, they've seriously put themselves in a position to be something special this season.

>>76232487
give me the panthers

>>76232487
Packers. Rodgers will get a 2nd ring and he's running out of time

>>76232399
Fuck them. Rice is Tha Goat. Rep SF until Death.

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>>76232374

>>76232487
>Atlanta Falcons +$1,300 (13 to 1)
obvious choice

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>>76228708
>Having this shit of an opinion

Anyone have the WebM of him picking Rodgers in the NFCCG btw?

>>76232487
eh give me the steelers. all those pistons on offense can fire consistently and they can drag themselves out of any hole their defense gets them into. 18-1. good payout.

>>76232487

Damn, Vegas must be high on Deshaun Watson. Regardless for those odds I'd take the Steelers.

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>>76232577
>failcons winning literally anything ever after that collapse

they were irreparably broken by the patriots, they will never make it back.

>>76232487
the Jags, they've got the talent for it if Bortles doesn't derp it up

>>76232521

McCaffrey and Samuel might be the most interesting rookie pair this season. They're both RB/WR hybrids and it gives that offense's passing game a whole new element besides "Chuck it to my 6'5 receivers who play like they're 5'8 or throw a screen to Olsen"

is 28-3 the closest we've come getting to another 18-1?

>>76232487
Baltimore-miami seems too be the best combo of good return without being absolute dog shit.

>>76232901

28-3 was worse than 18-1 tbqh lad. Pats got beat on a fluke play that will never happen again. Falcons blew a 4 score lead

>>76232552
I hope so, seems like he has favre's curse

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How the FUCK can anyone in Dallas with a working brain want this osteoporosis riddled perennial choke artist to come back and play QB for the Cowboys?

Explain this shit

i know its early, but is it possible to draft the whole pats offense in a 12 man snake draft?

Calling it now, it's finally the Raiders year

>>76233778
easy. gronk and is the only one you have to take early.

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Sup niggas. Colts running shit this year.

> Luck is fully 100%
> Even when injured, he was accurate/dangerous as fuck
> He can finally slide
> No Grigshit
> Ballard making this team a team
> Top 10 defense
> Top 5 offense again
> Once in playoffs, guarantee SB trip
> Vontae is the #1 cb again in the nfl
> Quincy Wilson a shutdown cb
> Frank G becomes the all time #1 rb with 1,000 yards
> Mack attack fuckin shit up
> Turbin is unstoppable on 3rd down
> Simon and Sheard gonna have career years
> Butler have a career year and #1 slot cb
> Money Vinny breaks his 44 consecutive fg and becomes #1 kicker
> Hooker and Geathers shut down safeties
> The Colts have 2/ 1,000yrds receivers while Moncrief have 12 tds
> The rush D wont allow no 100 yard games
> The Dline gonna rack up hella sacks and tackles
> Pagano back in the hospital and Isray OD
> 12-4 record. (Steelers, Rams, Bills, Texans) 5-1 div

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>>76233852

>>76233852
>implying the Titans won't finally pull it together

>>76232374
Why are you posting this? We all know you Pats fans gave up on the team once they went down 21-0. Fairweather fucks.

>>76232487
Broncos because if they're gonna make it to the owl, they'll have to beat the pats

The broncos have a 18 - 1 chance, the pats stand no chance

>>76234034

>giving up on Brady

yeah no faggot. I watched Brady rally back from 24-0 against a better team. Never count Brady out

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>>76234123

that was one of the worst games I've ever watched. just shit tier football from beginning to end. Pats would have beaten either team in the owl that year

>>76226931

Thanks Raiders bro. I like to think our rebuild is just a couple years behind yours. Jack Del Rio is the man and the Jags have in their short history a bad habit of firing coaches too soon.

>>76232783

This. I don't think people realize the Jaguars defense was almost top 5 caliber last season and have absolutely loaded up again this off season. If Bortles doesn't throw a pick six every game this team has every chance at making a deep AFC playoff run.

>>76234102
>Failcons
>better
if they were better their defense could've stopped something

>>76234299

>held the Patriots to 3 points for 43 minutes

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>>76233924

>implying they will

Blowing the Titans out when they still had a legit playoff spot after being embarrassed by them earlier in the season was one of the few highlights of last year's Jags season.

>>76234333
I'd like the Jags to do well but y'know, Bortles
>>76234332
>couldn't literally stop anything after that
>offense couldn't even get a field goal
>TWO 2 PATs

>>76234352

Most Jags fans are praying that 2016 was the fluke season and not 2015. Coaching change could make all the difference (apparently Blake was discouraged from working with his mechanics coach as much as he did before 2015 during the 2016 offseason). I'm not holding my breath though. I'm glad the Jags didn't reach on yet another QB this draft but if they aren't careful they're going to be Texans tier top 5 D but no QB in the next couple seasons.

>>76234398
if Fournette pans out Bortles could be a game manager and they could have a top tier run game

so this entire general is just 70% trip?

>>76234299
he's talking about the broncos, dummy.

>>76234422
either way, the better team always wins
that includes 18-1

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>>76223900
should I care about this season?

>>76234406

Yeah but Cann and Linder need to make significant strides and Robinson needs to pan out to really give Fournette a chance in hell.

And I don't think Blake is the game manager type of QB. His ceiling is some kind of Favre/Roethlisberger hybrid. He will always throw 12~14 picks a season (I feel) and needs to succeed as a gunslinger to really utilize his talents.

>>76234446
the better team on that day, you mean.

>>76234446
clarification: whoever is better on any given day. In no universe were the 2007 Giants a better team than the Patriots, overall, on paper/in a vacuum. None.

>>76234451
only if Tom Savage wins out the starting job.

>>76234558
doesn't matter
they beat them when it counted
therefore Giants > Pats

>>76234579
that's simply incorrect. the better team does not always win. any given Sunday/Monday/Thursday, etc.

>>76234595
nah
if the 'better' team was truly better they should've beaten the 'worse' team

>>76234626
Depends what you mean by better. Teams with more talented players can lose to other teams with less because of superior coaching/execution.

>>76234595
>>76234626
OK.how about this.
ex.
the 1985 Bears, widely considered the GOAT team aside from the 2007 Pats, lost 1 game, to Miami, who nullified their 46 defense for one afternoon. Were they better overall? Probably not. Best in the AFC, maybe.
Then Miami lost the AFCCG to the cinderella Patriots, widely considered to be the fault of Dan Marino choking, who were obliterated in the Super Bowl. Were the Patriots the better team than the Dolphins? Hell no.

>>76234595

the team that plays better always wins. even great teams can get beat on off days

>>76234569
>only if Tom Savage wins out the starting job.
Isn't he competing with a new QB draft pick? Forget his name.

Still stuck somewhere between regretting that Kubiak trade to the Broncos a few years back and not having a reliable QB/coach. Still can't tell if I can trust O'Brien. Feels like we're the browns 2.0

>>76234674
yes
the Pats were the best team that week, they beat the team that beat the Bears, but then they lost to the Bears so the Bears became the best team again

>>76234595
>>76234690
that's pretty much what I said, but OK.

>>76234698
no matter how many times you repeat it, it's not true. the better team on any given day wins, but the better team overall is the one that wins the most (and most important) games.
In the 1985 AFCCG the Patriots executed their gameplan better, so they won. It was the second time they'd done it in the playoffs (against the Raiders, who also had a better record than them.) They were the better team that day than the Dolphins. However, their record was one game worse than the Dolphins, had an inferior quarterback (Tony Eason) to Dan Marino,

tl;dr the better team is defined on paper over the course of a season. single-game upsets do not nullify this. During the 2007 season, the Patriots were the best team but for one anomalous game, which happened to be the Super Bowl. This doesn't make the 14-win (inc. postseason) Giants better than the 18-win Patriots for that entire season.

>>76234798
so are the 2015 Panthers just as good as the 85 Bears?

>>76234812
no, because when you begin to compare teams with the same record (just for fun, you could throw any 15-1 team in the mix there as well,) that's when you can begin to look at the eventual outcomes of their seasons. The Bears had a much better defense, had a tougher schedule, and won the Super Bowl, while the Panthers were finally exposed in the Super Bowl because of their inferior defense and more importantly poor execution of their gameplan. '85 Bears > '15 Panthers.

>>76234842
>inferior defense
they allowed 1 touchdown
as did the 85 Bears

>>76234861
the Bears still WON, whereas the Panthers LOST.

>>76234861
>implying that makes the pants equal
and anyway, both losers in those games still scored only 10 points apiece while losing by two or more TDs. So the Panthers were "better" than the Broncos, except on that one day.

And even then, and I am backtracking a bit on my point here, when you compare teams with unequal records, other factors come into play. The '15 Broncos did have a better defense than the Panthers. Their schedule was much tougher, and while the Panthers were missing key players for most of the season, they had a schedule that allowed them to (for the most part) cancel that out and more. And lastly, there were intangibles such as the Any Given Sunday rule which allowed them to beat better teams on certain days to achieve the record they had.

Though their record did not show it, in the end, the 2015 Broncos were indeed the better team than their SB opponents the Panthers.

>>76235001
forgot
as were the 1985 Bears

>>76235001
>muh SOS
isn't the playoff system supposed to weed out the cupcake teams?

>>76235023
it's supposed to, but, like 2011, it often doesn't. 9-7 teams aren't supposed to beat 15-1 teams in the playoffs, but the Giants beat the Packers that year, and handily, too.
Undefeated regular-season teams are supposed to win it all. But that one team didn't.
I'm not seeing how one can still believe that the best team always wins.

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Lastly, here's a comparison of all the 15-1 teams, sorted by best seasonal outcome.
The Panthers may have been in the top 10 for offense and defense (simplifying them here for the sake of brevity,) but they had the lowest SRS and easiest schedule out of all 6 teams, which suggests a lot of luck and simply outperforming their expected record, which they did the most of the lot when you factor in the SRS+SOS (the tSRS stat I used.)
Simply put, they're the worst 15-win team in NFL history. Yes, the 15-win mark is still impressive, but they needed the most help of the six to get there.

Does Matthew Stafford throw the fastest ball in NFL history?

https://youtu.be/eCgYKqc9vIY

>>76235268
If I were to rank these teams in order of greatness, I would say

1. '85 Bears
2. '84 Naners
3. '98 Vikings
4. '04 Steelers
5. '11 Packers
6. '15 Panthers

The stats bear this out for the most part as well. They can't all be SB champs, but, you know, AGS.

>>76235280
Yes

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Has Aaron Rodgers replaced Peyton in this pic, Eli's branch "trimmed"?

>>76236656
>no Eli
nvm that part

>>76236656

Brady will be at the top of the default order until he retires, then Rodgers. They might as well rename MVP Quarterback of the Year and make another achievement award for dudes that break or get close to the rushing/receiving/sack records. Hearing the muh most valuable position in sports shit whenever MVP is discussed is getting fucking obnoxious.

>>76237918
Brady probably won't be voted MVP again because muh scandals, though, whereas Rodgers has the "default elite QB who isn't Brady" quality that Peyton had throughout his career.

>another achievement award for dudes that break or get close to the rushing/receiving/sack records
that's what OPOTY/DPOTY are for

>>76237964
they gave brady two mvps after spygate retard

>>76237964

Brady already seems to be the consensus best QB ever among the current sports writers, and since they're the ones that pick MVP I don't think it's too much of a stretch for them to give it to him during whatever years he has left, scandals or not. To be fair I don't think Rodgers would have to do too much better than him to pull it away, but if they have similar stats I think Brady would be the default choice, especially since the Patriots are almost always in line for a first round bye. And that's true with the OPOTY/DPOTY, but I'd rather make another award above those two and split the QB's off into their own category. There's no point in pretending MVP is anything else but the QB award 95% of the time unless someone has a crazy rushing year.

darnold is better than andrew luck

all of luck's physical tools except smart and durable, and not an autist. he will be the GOAT

>>76238105
...which were both before the deflategate bullshit. any non-Pats fan more likely than not believes Brady is guilty in that failed "sting operation", or otherwise hates him for whatever reason, and that audience includes AP MVP voters. Even if Brady threw 60 TDs with 30 to Brandin Cooks in 2017, I doubt there would be enough non-haters to vote rationally when it comes to Brady.

>>76238140
I totally agree that the AP MVP is basically "Best QB," which was the whole point of my original post >>76236656 here, and furthermore that, now that Peyton is retired and Brady had to endure another "scandal", Rodgers is the default choice for the league's best QB, mainly because he puts up gaudy stats like Peyton did even if his playoff success is mixed.

>>76238292
>any non-Pats fan more likely than not believes Brady is guilty in that failed "sting operation
not true at all, most people just got tired of hearing about deflategate, hell most wanted to see Goodell give the trophy to Brady

>Even if Brady threw 60 TDs with 30 to Brandin Cooks in 2017, I doubt there would be enough non-haters to vote rationally when it comes to Brady.

please, if baseball voters have enough integrity to vote for Barry Bonds and A-rod for mvp I don't see why football writers couldn't vote for Brady especially when they gave him two after a scandal, which while severely overblown, actually had a degree of reality to it unlike deflategate.

>>76234123
that cameraman deserves an MVP award

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>>76234123
>he targeted Adams

alternate reality qb matchups: if every conference championship game loser had won instead

1966: Don Meredith vs. Jack Kemp
1967: Don Meredith vs. Pete Beathard
1968: Daryle Lamonica vs. Bill Nelsen
1969: Daryle Lamonica vs. Bill Nelsen
1970: John Brodie Vs. Daryle Lamonica
1971: Johnny Unitas vs. John Brodie
1972: Terry Bradshaw vs. Craig Morton
1973: Roger Staubach vs. Ken Stabler
1974: Ken Stabler vs. James Harris
1975: Ken Stabler vs. James Harris
1976: Terry Bradshaw vs. Pat Haden
1977: Ken Stabler vs. Bob Lee
1978: Dan Pastorini vs. Pat Haden
1979: Doug Williams vs. Dan Pastorini
1980: Dan Fouts vs. Danny White
1981: Dan Fouts vs. Danny White
1982: Danny White vs. Richard Todd
1983: Joe Montana vs. Dave Krieg
1984: Mark Malone vs. Steve Fuller
1985: Dan Marino vs. Dieter Brock
1986: Bernie Kosar vs. Jay Schroeder
1987: Bernie Kosar vs. Wade Wilson
1988: Jim Kelly vs. Jim McMahon
1989: Bernie Kosar vs. Jim Everett
1990: Joe Montana vs. Jay Schroeder
1991: John Elway vs. Erik Kramer
1992: Steve Young vs. Dan Marino
1993: Joe Montana vs. Steve Young
1994: Troy Aikman Vs. Neil O'Donnell
1995: Brett Favre vs. Jim Harbaugh
1996: Mark Brunell vs. Kerry Collins
1997: Steve Young vs. Kordell Stewart
1998: Randall Cunningham vs. Vinny Testaverde
1999: Mark Brunell vs. Shaun King
2000: Rich Gannon vs. Daunte Culpepper
2001: Donovan Mcnabb vs. Kordell Stewart
2002: Donovan Mcnabb vs. Steve Mcnair
2003: Peyton Manning vs. Donovan Mcnabb
2004: Ben Roethlisberger vs. Micheal Vick
2005: Jake Plummer vs. Jake Delhomme
2006: Tom Brady vs. Drew Brees
2007: Brett Favre vs. Philip Rivers
2008: Donovan Mcnabb vs. Joe Flacco
2009: Brett Favre vs. Mark Sanchez
2010: Jay Cutler vs. Mark Sanchez
2011: Joe Flacco vs. Alex Smith
2012: Tom Brady vs. Matt Ryan
2013: Tom Brady vs. Colin Kaepernick
2014: Aaron Rodgers vs. Andrew Luck
2015: Tom Brady vs. Carson Palmer
2016: Aaron Rodgers vs. Ben Roethlisberger

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*eats your LB for breakfast*
HOW do you stop this FB?

>>76233147
you mean the packers FO curse?
it's not a coincidence that the packers have had two first ballot HOFers as QB's that are only going to have one superbowl each

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>>76238908
>Mcnabb 3peat

>>76236656
I think black QB can be added

>>76238908
>favre vs Rivers

Holy fuck imagine the memes

>>76239789
look at 2010 if you want memes

>>76238908
>Brady still gets 4
>Flacco gets two
>McNabb with the chance of a back to back to back 3peat
>Mark Sanchez with 2 SB starts
>that fucking Brunell vs Collins year
>Peyton still gets 1 chance to choke
if only

>>76233616
i've loved the cowboys for years
never once have i thought romo was a good qb
fucker wasn't even in the draft

>>76239664
With diabetes.

>>76234123
cant see it here but if I recall correctly that was an uncalled offsides
or at least that's how it was perceived by the offense when the ball was snapped

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Raiders

What should I do with my Peterson jersey /sp/?

>>76240590
keep it???

*blocks your path*

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>>76241083

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reminder

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>>76241097
feeling old yet