/f1/ - overcut Edition

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Silly Season 2018:

>Ferrari
Vettel/Sainz

>Mercedes
Hamilton/Bottas

>Red Bull
Ricciardo/Verstappen

>Williams
Stroll/Grosjean

>Haas
Magnussen/Leclerc

>Sauber
Ericsson/Giovinazzi

>Toro Rosso
Kvyat/Gasly

>Renault
Alonso/Hulkenberg

>McLaren
Vandoorne/Gimi

>Fore Skindia
Ocon/Wehrlein

inb4 Lewis coming back to multireply and defend his fragile reputation

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>>76213870
Stolen

>>76213866
Ferrari were worried. The thing is after the pit Kimi immediately, they then saw Bottas's actual pace on the fresh tyres, at that point they realised there was no threat. So why pit Vettel when he is starting to drive significantly faster?

The intention initially was not to favour Vettel it was to secure 1st for Kimi.
Then when they saw Vettel could get 1st off Kimi they went ahead with their new plan of leaving him out.

There is no denying Vettel is their #1, the point is that they did not pit Kimi to favour Vettel. They Pit Kimi to get a Ferrari 1st place, then they saw the possibility to give Vettel 1st place over Kimi. They then went with a new plan that was only made post Kimi pit.

>>76213912
>>76214004

No! Don't!

in well before that other brit to remind you we are quality /f1/ posters
though that depends what you think of waglad i suppose

>8th for if you're not a Hamilton fan you're a homophobe

>>76214038
Shame that Choco-Senna fan is giving you a bad name.

>>76214069
we've lived through worse lad

>>76214114
I'm new here, so I wouldn't know.

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>>76214053
Nigga please

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Now that the dust has settled, what went wrong?

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HANNA LIVES!!!!!

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>>76214586

>>76213870
>>76213912
>>76214022
>Kimi too slow
When Kimi came out the pits he set some very quick laps, including two in the 1:15s. In fact, if you look at both drivers' first four full laps on the supersofts (after the out lap), Kimi's were 2.303 second quicker overall. That's a big difference!

>>76214004
>There is no denying Vettel is their #1, the point is that they did not pit Kimi to favour Vettel. They Pit Kimi to get a Ferrari 1st place, then they saw the possibility to give Vettel 1st place over Kimi. They then went with a new plan that was only made post Kimi pit.
Well I'm glad we finally agree that Ferrari deliberately left Vettel out when they could (and in my opinion, should) have called him in.

>>76214038
>>76214069
Ultimately I'm not the person that turned me into a meme. I just supported Hamilton, and people seem to not like that just because he's black. (I understand there are other reasons not to like him - I also think he's prissy. But people just come back to race quite a lot.)

Some guy thought it would be funny to knock up that image of the black guy sitting at the computer.

I'm just a random Hamilton supporter, that's it. Although like I say, I don't think he's perfect. He's a twat sometimes. I just like supporting British drivers - same with Button, same with Coulthard, same even with Max Chilton and Will Stevens. Hell, I'd love Joe/Lee/Palmer to do better (but that probably won't happen).

Also, replying to multiple posts in one post is more efficient. Who wants to fill out the Captcha over and over?

>implying africans are british

>>76214679
I hate him because he's a whining cunt.

>>76214679
I dislike him because he's a whinging cunt.

>>76214679
No one at any point ever denied that Vettel is their #1.
The point is that it's not a conspiracy. It never was a conspiracy. There was no grand master secret plan.
The intention of calling Kimi into the pits wasn't to give the lead to Vettel, but after calling Kimi in it opened up an option to give the lead to Vettel. So naturally they took it as that's what they want.

Your opinion here is Ted's >He has a moral obligation to let Hamilton past tier. Remember that whole chestnut and how disgusting the proposition of that was?

What place did lewie finish?

>>76215129
7th iirc

>>76215152
Nice, did he drive a Haas just to give others a chance?

>>76215174
He qualified like 13th or something because
>tfw to smart too lay down a competitive lap

>>76215210
He qualified 14th, but started 13th because Honda.

>>76215234
To be fair he qualified 14th because of McLaren too

Though he was trying to go for perfect set up when the car wasn't working. Bottas said something like that the front tyres took 4 laps to get working and the rears took 2 or something like that. Bottas was fine doing a decent lap were Lewlew had to do better than Bottas so he cruised around for 10 laps trying to get into the perfect wondow. Then couldn't get a lap down.

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>Nico and Lewis are not frien-

>>76215308
Photos like these make me self-conscious about the state of my teeth, pls delete

>>76215303
Stoffel crashed for our sins.

>>76215331
Stoffel is based as fuck

>>76215343
Praise be onto Him!

>>76215343
If you don't like Stoffel you're transphobic

>>76214038
All you Ameriboos that frequent this site are pure cancer.

>>76215129
>What place did lewie finish?

Nigger out of 20.

>>76215308
What? That white man obviously hired that negro to detail his car or some shit...

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I'm starting to hate this autist piece of shit. He's playing the victim now with all that bullshit about how he wanted to win and shit. He was TOTAL SHIT in 2014, yes the car was shit, but Alonso still destroyed his ass. He was pretty shit in 2015 with a race winning car. He was irrelevant last year in a shit car. But now he has a clear WDC contender and he is still shit while his team mate mis leading the championship. Just fuck off already and stop crying. If he really wanted (or was able) to win races, he would have done so by now, but it's been 4 fucking years since he last won a race.

>>76215580
Go inside, Canada, and warm up

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>>76215320

Was actually thinking about this the other day.
How often have we heard sob stories from drivers about how poor their families were, and how hard it was when they were young. Lewis in particular.

But look at pics of them when they were kids, and most of them have perfect straight teeth.
IMO, if you can afford expensive as fuck dental work, you're not "poor" poor.

The only recent drivers I can think of who fixed their teeth after they made it to F1 and started making decent money is Maldonado and Ricciardo, who got braces.

>>76216005
I have barely ever been to the dentist in my whole life (I'm 20) and my teeth are almost perfect aside from the fact that they look kinda yellow because I smoke.

>>76216005
>Lewis in particular.

It's funny how often he tries to play up how poor he was, when he got a racing kart for christmas as a child.

>>76216005
>Be me
>Have nearly perfect teeth all my life without any braces or retainers
Feels good man

Basically they're just slightly off white because I don't care enough to do any whitening type stuff.

>>76216118
no but a lot of the other kids like nicolas who he spent a lot of time with were millionaires
he was really poor in the world of professional gokarting

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>>76216172
>>76216118
>difficult life as a working class family against the evil millionaires like the Nazi Rosbergs
>except when McLaren started supporting him when he was 8

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Doesn't work so well now that his Honda has blown up on both sides of the Atlantic.
HPD chose a bad year to wind the engines a little tighter, they were notoriously reliable the last few years.

>>76216946
>HPD chose a bad year to wind the engines a little tighter
but they won

>>76216946
All I know is that you are an IDIOT if you fly with Alonslow, as that nigger is CURSED, and your aircraft engine is liable to asplode before you finish your flight.

>>76216975

With a Japanese driver.

>>76216980
>11 Honda engine failures in the month of May (tm)
>Its just Alonso

Kys

Nando will be bringing an Indycar engine back with him to put in the McLaren and hope nobody notices

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>>76216975
But the guy they specifically flew out to appease had his engine let go in a very F1-esque style.
Poor bastard, pic related is what was going through Alonso's head coasting down the front stretch.

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>>76217004
Might run okay, will be down on power compared to other cars though.

>>76216996
And yet Takuma-san managed to run his Honda engine to victory with no issues.

No, my sheep buggering friend, it's surely that Alonslow is being cursed for his sins.

>>76217044
>Hunter-Reay and Kimball are also Alonso
Interesting, I didn't know Alonso had 2 clones racing with him....

>people getting this upset because an engine blew up

You fuckers would have cried yourselves to sleep at night if you had have been old enough watch the engine wars in F1 and ChampCar during the late 90s / early 00s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbz8KONVrUk&t=191

Luckily for you cunts we have rulebook enforced reliability now so your feelings don't get hurt.

>>76217061
Alonslows cancer, much like your cancerous nation, infects everything it draws close to...

>>76217081
Are the 22 Honda engine failures before indy also Alonso's fault?

>>76217081
>>76217044
where did he touch you

>>76217095
Yes because his eyewatering salary is preventing Honda from tipping money into the problem.

>>76217095
Absolutely.

It's that cursed Muslim blood he's got in his system.

>>76217105

Right in the fuel injector.

>race is at 4am on the long weekend

ITS NOT FAIR LADS ITS NOT FAIR LADS ITS NOT FAIR LADS ITS NOT FAIR LADS ITS NOT FAIR LADS ITS NOT FAIR LADS

>>76213893
>implying it won't be RIC and VET at Ferrari and Max and KVY at Meme Bull

>>76217185

Ricciardo has a contract with Red Bull until the end of 2018.
No amount of wishful thinking will change that.

>>76217185
>Race is at 20:00

JustPerfect.jpg

>Race is at 11AM

Montreal, Austin, Mexico and Interlagos are lyfe

>>76217194
2019 then.

>>76217124
money isn't their problem, it's shitty engineering leadership and general problems that come with stupid Japanese business practices

>race is at 2pm

Nice! First the race, then Brasileirão.

>>76214639
>>76214586
HOLY FUCK

>>76214586
Is Seb having bubbles?

>>76215308
Nico just walks around like he owns the place not a single piece of f1 clothes/tags/passes. Why is he allowed to do that?

>>76217420
>Monaco native (basically)
>Won the Grand Prix 3x in a row
>World Champion
>About as close to royalty in MCO without actually being a Grimaldi
He pretty much does own the place. Also he attends as a fan now, and not as a member of a team (iirc his role with Mercedes is only as an ambassador, and not affiliated with the racing team)

>>76217004
>change working engine with blown up engine
Thats a honda tier engineering right there.

>>76217369

IKR

>>76217484
It shows just how happy he must be if he is willing to allow them to the race.

>>76217550

Also shows how this thread is full of disgusting wag casuals who don't realise how momentous this is.

>>76217550
>>76217624
has most likely to do with Monaco being very safe to be in

Last time I saw Hanna was Brasil 2012. Has it really been that long?

>>76217650
she was pregnant twice and had to take care of young kids so it seems likely

>>76217650

Yes.
We haven't seen her in nearly 5 years, hence how momentous this is.

>>76213893
Kimi teams up with hamilton. burns it all down when mercedes goes back to previous turbo explitation

>>76217666
honesty the biggest wag story since the JB/JM divorce. I have work but I'll try and save everything when I get back.

>>76213893
>Hamilton/Bottas
You mean Bottas/Hamilton?

>>76213893

>Perez kill and replaced by Princess

Nah m8

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>>76215308
Is that Eddie Murphy?

>>76214586
>>76214639
How can she be so cute?

Hanna immediately jumped into the plane when she saw BigRic bullying Nat into the pool.

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>>76217420
mfw I'm Bossberg and can do what I want

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>>76214586
>two white, blond children
Antifa absolutely seething.
Also she looks a bit like Manuel Neuer here desu.

>>76217420

>Be Nico
>Grow up in Monaco
>Be friend with all the high-society of the country
>Royals too
>There are 2 kids in the royalty, around the same age as Nico
>All of them have a racing driver father, Keke and Stefano
>Grow up together being best firends
>Years later Nico is a driver of the fastest car in the peak of motorsport
>Wins the historical Monaco GP, the most prestigious race in the calendar, that is also basically his home GP three times in a row in front of his childhood friends
>two years later he retires being WDC
>Goes to his childhood freinds and say "Hey, let's enjoy the race together, as we did as kids"
>"Sure, just go anywhere you like, feel like at home"

No surprises he did

>>76214351
Is that bitch just walking around with a jar of Nutella in her hand? What a slut.

>>76214639
Those Ferrari suit jackets are obscenely cool.

>>76217881

>Take a jacket
>Put Ferrari logo on it
>obscenely cool

How does fashion works down there mate?

>>76217896
>he doesn't know that a single logo is everything

>>76217879
She likes to get it on with Roscoe.

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>when its real nigga hours but still his time

>>76217896

>Boil pasta
>Put tomato sauce on it
>bon appetite

How does food works up there mate?

>>76217185

>Going to a gig on Sunday night that finishes at 4am
>Sailing from 5am
>Race is at 6am

Estimated time of wakeup on Monday will be 5pm

>>76198038
I mean that the cars are too wide and the track is too narrow and every overtake attempt results in a crash because there's not enough room to do any overtaking.

>>76217882
Thanks for the reminder.

>tfw no murdernado
>tfw max is no longer a suicidal teenager
boring sport now, at least it's not mwl

Hmmmmmmmmmm
https://youtu.be/q8_zysSemlo
No mention of any grand conspiracy
Only mention of faster drivers passing people with over cuts

Hmmmmmmmm

Did anyone notice the Ferrari mechanics cheered as loud for Ricci as they did for Vettel and Kimi when he got his trophy?
Ricci to Ferrari confirmed

>>76218424

>implying drivers are chosen by the mechanics and not the Pope

>>76218441

>Implying you won't be able to buy the Ferrari 488 GTRicciardo in 2019

>>76218424
Didn't notice but maybe because he took a podium from Mercedes?

>>76218465

Was wondering the same.
>The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

>>76218465
Maybe also partly because of his italian heritage

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>>76218470
you don't get to bring friends

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Reminder to show some respect for Gimi

http://gptoday.com/full_story/view/605941/Palmers_F1_future_is_not_secure__Renault/

f.

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>>76218342
there was no conspiracy indeed

>>76218615

Hungaroring will be his last race

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>>76218624

For fuck sakes.
That wanky bottle of plonk is actually made out of carbon fiber.

Please come back Mumm.

Lads, what do you think the best race of the year so far has been?

>>76218712
Can't decide between China and Spain

>>76218712
Barcelona, although the best ones are after the summer

>>76218731
Turn 1 Spain was pretty good.

>>76218712

Australia, because MWL was kill, le """""sandbagging""""" meme was kill.

>>76218828
I'm gonna claim Mercs are sandbagging whenever they are behind Ferrari just to hear you rant about the le sanbagging narrative

>>76218712
Monaco for the sheer amount of
>Salty Hamilton fans
>Salty Gimi fans
>Salty Verstappen fans
>Wehrlein doing a ROC stunt

The only way this race could've gotten better was if the safety car came in a little earlier and gave Ric a better chance to bully Gimi out of 2nd. Thus, inducing more Amx tears.

Does anyone have link to full race?
God damn i missed monaco gp, one of my very favorites since oliver panis rainy win.

Also, what happened, why spurdo lost the race? Fell drunken off the yacht again or what?

>>76214586
>ywn be one of sebastian vettels's aryan offspring

>>76214351

ham making fun of nutella
shed totally fuck him tho

>>76219280

http://demonoid.pw/files/?uid=9412950

>>76219337
Tnx, mate.

>>76218424
Italians unironically consider ricciardo to represent them

>>76219300
He was slower than his team mate and thus got passed by his team mate.

>>76219300
He was expecting team orders to make him win despite being slower

>>76219441
>>76219493
Ayy lmao.
Literally the only track when you can be over 1s/lap slower and you actually still win the race.
Hamilton looks like he dgaf anymore.

>>76217882

I dont get it

>https://www.sauberf1team.com/news/gustav-malja-to-test-for-the-sauber-f1-team-at-the-hungaroring
Reminder that I've always said that the Sauber owners are not in Ericsson's pocket, their only interest is having Swedish drivers in F1.

>>76219784
Some teams claim to be a certain nationality when they really aren't.

>>76217773
>>76213893
I forgot about Perez. I guess he could go back to McLaren instead of Kimi. Or Renault if Alonso stays at McLaren.

>>76219956
Most likely Renault
>http://en.f1i.com/news/269640-renault-closing-sergio-perez.html#.WS0zCo9ISLY.twitter

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>>76216259
is that Hamlel?

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>amx can't even win at dutch national pastime

I don't think this is the driver i should bandwagon

>>76220041
forgot link lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AMWbFNXHi4

>>76219537
>Literally the only track when you can be over 1s/lap slower and you actually still win the race.

But not during the crucial pit stop phase

>>76218527
why is Ferrari so bad in 10'?

>>76220053
does amx even have his drivers license? I'm reporting this tot he authorities

>>76220463

based Petrov

>>76220463

They wanted to behave like their country.
Succeed at it at least

>>76220041
>>76220053
>Amx losing the lead by going full AMD AMX and wrecking his caravan
Why does he have to be such a meme?

>>76213870
nice picture OP

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>Kvyat's career at Red Bull

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>>76220726

>>76220726
>>76220740
just needs a picture of vettel in the middle

>>76219956
>Alonso stays at McLaren
Why would he do that?

>>76221217

Same pay, but only has to work part time.

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Alonso thinks the only team that has "shut doors" for 2018 is Red Bull.

(Translated from Spanish)

>"Can you pick the car you want to run?", Counterattacks Calleja. To what Alonso responds: "I think so. If in June or July I will call any team I think it would have possibilities. But all is negotiating, of course. Maybe Red Bull is the only one that has the doors a little closed because it already has very young drivers with long-term contract".

>At that point, Calleja decides to attack with all the heavy artillery and formulates his most incisive question without walking through the branches: "you will not already have hidden under the table a pre-contract that says that you go to Mercedes in 2018 if the thing goes good on Mercedes?" Alonso does not shy away from the answer. "If the thing goes well in Mercedes and I like the Formula 1 that comes", seems to confirm the Asturian.

http://www.marca.com/motor/formula1/2017/05/29/592c44c322601d96138b458e.html

>>76221217
they will let him pursue the triple crown

>>76221254
Actually here's a better translation:

>"I could go to another team, I don't know whether it is Mercedes or another. If Renault starts to dominate, I don't know.

>"If in June or July a team calls I think we would have a chance but it's all to be talked about.

>"I think perhaps Red Bull is the only one that has doors a little closed because it already has young drivers with long contracts.

http://www.wheels24.co.za/FormulaOne/red-bulls-door-closed-for-2018-alonso-20170530

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>>76219328
He did fuck her

>>76221278
>Alonso considers going to Merc now that they're showing a drop in form

the guy really has the worst timing for team moves

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>"Feelings were hot in the Ferrari garage," Toni Vilander, a broadcaster for Finland's C More and a personal friend of Raikkonen's, said.
>"Kimi's engineer was very upset and Kimi was obviously angry. Maybe things went on that we don't know about."
http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns36551.html

>>76221694
Did they remotely force him drive slower?

>>76221719
That's the real conspiracy. Ferrari is $timulating him to drive slower.

So Honda will bring upgrade spec engine in Canada? or what?

>>76221719
They fucked him over. If they had cared about giving Kimi a fair chance to win then they would have asked Seb to pit straight after Kimi - they would COMFORTABLY still retain the 1-2.

But they didn't, obviously. Because they wanted Seb to win. So it wasn't a fair competition. It was a favourability towards Sebastian. Of course we all know why they would do that. For championship points. It would be nice if Ferrari admitted their favourability though - but obviously they won't.

If we look back to Bahrain, we see that Mercedes' decision to give pole-winner Bottas a fair crack at winning the race actually COST THEM THE VICTORY. If they had ordered Bottas to let Hamilton through earlier, then Hamilton would have reeled in Vettel and possibly won the race.

You know Ferrari were favourable to Vettel. I know that they were favourable to Vettel. But Ferrari won't admit it, because they're a slimy team, like always.

>>76221878
Lmao even if they told him to pit you think seb would pit when he saw how much faster than kimi he was going?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddLmSM_g7dg
Is it just me or does the car movement in third person view look a bit weird?

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>>76221878
>deliberately ruining Vettel's only chance of overtaking is "giving Kimi a fair chance to win"

>>76221986

Funny how conspiracy fags don't seem to realise that the only way Kimi would have won was if Ferrari rigged it for him.

>>76221878

>Pitting the fastest car on the track because is gaining too much advantage over the twin car

And you guys say Ferrari's strategies are silly

http://en.f1i.com/news/269640-renault-closing-sergio-perez.html#.WS0zCo9ISLY
Renault is going for a different spic it seems

>>76221979
>using 3rd person
>ever

Gross desu

>people make conspiracy theories about team orders
>they want team orders to have gone the other way

what a strange hypocrisy

>>76222344
personally I use the view in front of the car where you don't see anything
3rd person is good when you want to check damage or so

>>76222364
>letting Kimi win is teamorder
>letting Seb win is also teamorder
So who deserves the win? The race leader who won qualy or the guy with the better race pace?

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>>76222379
The toad. Ignore bait filename.

Why don't they just make more pit stalls so teams can pit both cars at the same time if they think that specific lap is the best strategy?

https://twitter.com/Motorsport_IT/status/869528944860684288

I don't speak eyetie but I think it says Gimi is getting another 1 year deal for being a good boy on Sunday.

>>76222449
I think they're talking about how long it took for him to complete the lap when Vettel was pitting

>>76222442
costs too much
checks out with the news on >>76222187
sad Buemi still doesn't get a drive and Alonso still stays at McLaren

>>76214444
it certainly wasn't those quads.

>>76222474
checks out with the news on >>76222187 (You)
sad Buemi still doesn't get a drive and Alonso still stays at McLaren
meant for >>76222449

>>76215320
post pic of teeth

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So next year all cars look like the current Ferrari and Mercedes will win again because their engine is still the best and Ferrari no longer has the aero/tyre advantage?

I unironically like amx as a driver, but could someone tell if as a person is he Button tier or Villeneuve tier?

>>76222566
McLaren will be up there because Alonso will leave them for Renault.

Curse will be lifted

>>76222541

Take your fetish elsewhere, pervert.

>>76222592
>alonso leaves
>Honda brings Sato back
>Sato wins the WDC
>Alonso placed in a straightjacket to prevent suicide attempts between sessions

cbf posting but Vic's new instagram pic is her riding her brother('s jetski)

>>76222449

Ok, I'll make it fast
>Bullshit talking about sunday
>Bullshit talking about other past stuff
>Ferrari plans are all on 2019 Giovinazzi or Lecrec
>Since Vettel is staying apparently they'll have to look for someone who wants to be a 2nd driver for a year and then fuck off
>Bully would be a Vettel replacement
>Fat John apparently doesn't satisfy even Haas so is a no (I don't believe that but okey)
>Checo is somehow not liked in the box and it doesn't have a big marketing appeal
>So why not keep Kimi, he's liked by Vettee, knows the team and all the other stuff.
>Marchionne and Arrivabenis on the other hand will wait before asking to sign another contract because they don't want him to sit on his ass for more than half of the season

I rate this article bullshit/10 tho

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>>76222633
so basically the article is italy/10?

>>76222666

Not top tier ITALIA journalism but yeah

Also nice trips Satan

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>>76222688
Nice trips Hitler

>>76217809
it was funny when he was listening to Vettel's explanation and clearly didn't give a shit

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>>76222808
dubs* apologies, still have a bit of a headache from a skiing accident

>>76222826
Hahahaha because Schumacher had a sore head from skiiing

>>76217809
jacket with t-shirt = gay

>>76221905
Then it would be in Vettel's hands - it's a question of Ferrari giving fair treatment, and they didn't.

>>76221986
>>76222060
>he doesn't understand that the pole qualifier is given the favourable strategy
Have you never watched F1 before?

>>76222159
>deliberately favouring one driver
There's nothing wrong with favouring one driver, it's in the rules, but Ferrari won't even admit it. Sad.

>>76222955
If vettel pitted when kimi did and kimi when vettel did, vettel still would have passed him. the chosen strategies weren't of importance

>>76222364
I've read multiple articles saying that Dave Greenwood, Kimi's race engineer, was also very unhappy after the race, while the whole rest of the team was celebrating the 1-2.

I think Ferrari deliberately left Kimi and Dave in the dark about the effectiveness of the overcut.

Martin Brundle wrote on Sky News today that he thinks Ferrari would probably have known about the overcut - he says a "broadly held view" in the paddock was that the overcut would be effective.

I think Ferrari quietly refrained from discussing this with Mr. Greenwood or his driver. For championship reasons, of course.

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>>76223076
I bet he's getting really proud of his old friend Maurizio. Would really love to know what he thinks about todays F1.

>>76222971
Absolutely not, because Kimi would have come in straight after Seb wouldn't he? So seb would have no way to perform the undercut. Unless you're suggesting a scenario where Ferrari deliberately leave Kimi out for five laps before pitting him, while Seb performs the undercut. Which is even more deliberate sabotage than what actually happened.

>>76223200

>hamilshit fags

VET and RIC were just much faster than their teammates this week, no matter the strategy Vettel would've overtaken, he was held up by Kimi. He would have undercut him in one lap no problem

>>76223200
he was running faster laps, he would pass regardless. Kimi would not be able to pull off the overcut

>>76223271
>ric was faster
Hang on, is that why Max BLEW THE FUCK OUT of Ric in qualifying? Max was 1.5 tenths quicker in Q1, 3 tenths quicker in Q2, and half a second quicker in Q3.

>He would have undercut him in one lap
Holy fuck this is the biggest case of delusion I've ever seen

>>76223280
If they pitted Seb first from 2nd, then he'd come out and probably start doing quick laps to try and get the undercut. Then Kimi would come straight in wouldn't he? So Seb would never get the undercut done. Unless Ferrari deliberately left Kimi out, to allow Seb to do the undercut, which is blatantly obvious favouritism.

It isn't enough that Ham gets favoritism, but now Hamfans want Kimi to be favored over Ham's closest rival. What a joke, this is what fans of the ultimate carbabby are like.

>>76223396
>RIC and VET take turns putting up purple laps while overcutting
u retard ever hesrd of RACE PACE

>>76223396
Ricciardo had bad traffic on his Q3 lap and wasn't happy about it.

>>76213893
>no button

Fool

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What do we remember Esteban for in F1 gents?
http://www.racer.com/indycar/item/141024-gutierrez-in-contention-to-replace-bourdais

He's fingered as a potential Bourdais replacement for the season.

>>76223425
2008 was the only season Hamilton had to challenge others.
After that his ability and attitude fell off the track. His most recent WDC were in a Mercedes that was so dominant they had no competition.

>>76223801
>What do we remember Esteban for in F1 gents?
His eyebrows

and I think he had a cute gf. I remember nothing about him on track except the time he got flipped by Pastor

>>76223801
>>76223893
He's known for ignoring blue flags and then when drivers complained calling them disrespectful, saying he is being picked on.

>>76220007
obviously

>>76223801
Kek, this is your 2018 Indy 500 winner, America!

>>76223425
No I hoped Ferrari would give Kimi a fair opportunity to win, which they didn't.

>>76223430
You ever heard of free air? Verstappen didn't have the chance to set purples did he? And Kimi trusted the team to give him the best strategy, and they deliberately gave the best strategy to Vettel.

>>76223432
Why did he fuck up the first two sessions then?

>>76223846
Hamilton haters
>Rosberg is amazing, look at the fierce competition he provided to Lewis
Also Hamilton haters
>Lewis had no real competition

Loving every laugh

>>76224621
make a tripcode

>>76224621
>Why did he fuck up the first two sessions then?
kek, like that matters

unless you're poowis

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Is Jenson Button's 2004 season underrated?

Whenever you here someone judging Buttons F1 career, it's all about 2009 and 2011 and his Hungary win in 2006.

People always sideline his amazing 2006 and 2014 season, and most of all his 2004 season where he was just outstanding.

85 points in the 2-3rd fastest car (Montoya got less in the fastest the year before), without the possibility of a race win against the Ferraris. Those points were out of sheer relentless consistency. The fact that Takuma Sato, an Indy 500 winning teammate, got only 34 points says a lot. He also got a pole position and was generally a better driver than Alonso (who had an amazing 2003) that season - not many seasons where you can say that.

Why is this season never mentioned?

>>76224780

By god its a RELENTLESS post and I didn't even have to modify it

>>76224621
Just stop, how many times do we have to prove your wrong.
At the time they called Kimi into the pits he was on the best strategy. See F1's video here >>76218342 and see this post yesterday >>76214004. Vettel then found speed that rivaled people qualifying times, he didn't expect it, his team didn't, the engineers and strategists didn't expect it. This speed caused the change in strategy which meant Kimi was no longer Ferrari's favourite to win. If Kimi was a faster driver he would have been backed to win the race but he wasn't the faster driver. Kimi was given a fair chance but he wasn't quick enough to retain the win and therefore Ferrari's favour.
There is no conspiracy just the natural change of strategy as the data at hand changes and as the race progresses.
There is not blatant screwing over of Kimi just him not being a quick enough driver.
The quicker driver won the race and is that not what racing is about?

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>>76224147
I doubt this very much.
He's also not likely to get the seat.
Formula E is a trap that most drivers can't get out of.

>>76224849
man new Indycars would be absolutely ELITE if it weren't for those fuckin gay pods in front of the rear wheels

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>>76224879
That's next years kits.
The pods are leaving.

>>76224780
I think Sato was just pretty bad except for a few nice quali laps

>>76224879
They'll never go away, the engineers love them, drivers too. There have always been some form of them or another on Indy cars ever since aero became a focus, around the mid 70s

>>76225016
in front of the rear wheels, junior. Not sure what they're actually called but 'pods' works better than 'winglet' or 'other sidepod'

>>76225040
well that sucks.

I knew about the rear ones.

>>76225066
>I knew about the rear ones
not sure how that ended up in the wrong bit of the post but okay.

vroom vroom

>>76225142
https://youtu.be/S7ipFApsFec?t=32

>>76224879
>>76225066
It is a spec series so they could remove them and everyone would deal their absence equally. I think the idea is that in addition to whatever downforce/drag improvements, it also gives a cleaner flow of air to the trailing car which helps promote closer racing in corners.

I agree that they look a bit funny being that large, the best was when they were smaller because of regs in the early 90s.

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>>76225066
You're talking about the front wing height.
The simply reality is that tires are draggy as hell and directing airflow above them alleviates some of it. If other open wheel Formula's allowed the wings to go that high, then everyone would do it.

>>76224831
You haven't proven shit. The reaction of Kimi and his race engineer Dave Greenwood shows they were left in the fucking dark. Ferrari always planned on giving Seb the chance to overcut.

If Ferrari cared about fairness then they would have pitted Seb straight after Kimi. That's what Mercedes used to do. But they didn't care about fairness, because they wanted Seb to win, it's fucking simple.

They should have given Kimi the best strategy to win. That's what teams normally do for the driver that has qualified on pole. But they didn't do that, because they didn't want to. Because they didn't want him to win.

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>>76225250

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>tfw I have to play football for charity with the guy that betrayed me at Montecarlo

Reminder that Senna was NOT shot

https://youtu.be/jQ98WgMiEFY

>>76225250
>You're talking about the front wing height.
no he isn't

>>76225317
>drive slower
>complain about """"""""fairness""""""""

Lewie fans will go to any lengths to cry about something lmao

>>76225317
>You haven't proven shit. The reaction of Kimi and his race engineer Dave Greenwood shows they were left in the fucking dark. Ferrari always planned on giving Seb the chance to overcut.
They and everyone else on the grid have said that they didn't know if the overcut or undercut would work. Everyone has commented on how Vettel found new pace that was incredible and unexpected. So no they didn't always plan what happened.
>If Ferrari cared about fairness then they would have pitted Seb straight after Kimi. That's what Mercedes used to do. But they didn't care about fairness, because they wanted Seb to win, it's fucking simple.
If they cared about fairness they would sabotage Vettel's race when he is faster? That doesn't sound fair to me at all... Ferrari isn't Mercedes so using their "fair" strategy as a yard stick doesn't really work there, apples and oranges.
>They should have given Kimi the best strategy to win. That's what teams normally do for the driver that has qualified on pole. But they didn't do that, because they didn't want to. Because they didn't want him to win.
They did give him the faster strategy, they gave Kimi the optimal strategy. Vettel was faster than Kimi so it didn't work as planned.

>>76225497
My dear Italian fans. We're racing around the world wit hthe support of La Partita... Del Cuore.
La Patita Del Cuore. Green Cuore. The Partita of dreams.

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So, we can say that Vettel will have the MORAL OBLIGATION to let Hamilton pass next race to cope with the "rigging"?

>LIGHTS OUT AND AWAY WE GO WHAT A START FOR FADDLE INDEED IS THAT GLOCK INDEED IT IS HIM INDEED

>very clumsy move, just very clumsy there, clumsy

Great commentators you got there britbongs

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I just noticed that Kimi looks like Kevin Costner in Bodyguard

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>>76225526
Got that now, I'm tired.
The side pod, known formally as a "Flick" is doing the same things though, decreasing drag, increasing DF, and directing air around the tires.
If they were allowed in other OW series, they would be used.
I recall some F1 cars in the last 15 years having some smaller flicks before the rear wheels. Some of the Hondas did.
CART/Indycar have always had them in some fashion in the last 30 years.

Here's a good dichotomy of how the series cars looked in 93.

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>>76225628
Since Vettel now has 25 points advantage, Hamilton should be given a victory in Canada to level the playing field again. Crofty agrees with me on this.

>>76225628
I love how everyone shut down Ted's stupid thoughts on the moral obligation. Even Crofty wasn't having a bar of his retarded ideas. Wolf and Lauda also told him he was retarded. Ted was walking around fuming for Hamilton and how "unfair" it was.

>>76225620
Allegri is in the same team of Seb and Kimi

looks good

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>>76225748
along with the mega president of Fiat

man...

>>76225779

Didn't they had a driver's team match last week?

>>76225809
really? I wasn't aware

btw I like Raikkonen offensive

>>76225620
Superb post

>Day 3
>Autism still intensifies

>>76226021
it is only the beginning, the lad has clearly been rationing his tendies well.

>>76225474
>Mercedes-Benz McLaren in indy
alright just ship over gimi and put juan in there and we have 2006 all over again

>>76225676
we keep telling you to watch Channel 4 but you don't listen
>haha croft is so fucking bad let me just listen to him again for two hours oh wow he really is bad

>>76225497
>kimi has the ball
>keeps running around in circles with it
>Vettel runs in, takes the ball from Kimi and immediately scores
>SABOTAGE THAT WAS KIMI'S GOAL

>>76226181
>implying I listen to him apart from the youtube highlights and rabbit
German Sky reporting in, ours are just as impartial btw

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>>76225676
Meanwhile RTL is still emplyong Heiko Wasser

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>>76226218
Kimi scored right now

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reminder that maia won the decision but masvidal won the fight

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wrong thread

>>76226075
>McLaren
lol no

>>76213870
God that Ferrari is pure sex

>>76217867
>Also she looks a bit like Manuel Neuer here desu.

Oh god

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>>76226362
>bahamafag posts in heem
wew

>>76226423
>he doesnt see the classic mclaren livery

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>>76215210
>tfw to smart too lay down a competitive lap

fucking kek

>>76215580
He's right, you know.

Kimi just isn't fast, he should accept that and move on instead of crying about it.

>>76226467
Those two liveries developed independently, it's Penkse not McLaren

>>76216005
>IMO, if you can afford expensive as fuck dental work, you're not "poor" poor.

The absolute state of Australian standard of living

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>>76226506
>this isnt a McLaren livery, which is literally the same as the one posted above

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>>76226542
It's literally exactly the Penske PC-23

>>76226593
you are being bamboozled my man

>>76226429
It's a downforce monster

It's actually faster through the corners than any car on the track

Mercedes still have the raw speed advantage (especially with DRS) and therefore the least drag

But they can't compete with the Ferrari in dirty air or corners

>>76226593
Based on the classic McLaren livery

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>>76225628
The only fair thing would be to give 2017 title immediately to Hamilton because, after all, it' his turn this year.

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Will Ferrai really win the championship this season or will they go full Italian?

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>>76215580
THIS, SO MUCH THIS.

And he was always among my 3 favorite drivers on the grid since 2007 but this is getting out of hand. It's obvious that he is total shit nowadays. Where was he when Vettel needed his help in Australia, China and Bahrain?
He should just be have that he is in Ferrari in the first place, given chance, Perez, Riccardo, Sainz and Bottas would definitely do a lot better than him in the same car.

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Twenty races a year and still people can't accept that there is one that is a little bit different. Monaco isn't about the race. It's a fight between the driver and the barriers. It's the glammer and prestige surrounding the place. People underestimate that the drivers love it and that even watching the race from the stands is a thrill because you're so close to the cars.

Sure I love wheel to wheel action as the next petrolhead, but Monaco is that one exception to the general rule that it needs overtaking to be interesting. If it's that much to handle, just skip it and leave the others to enjoy it in peace. There's nineteen other races per year to keep one occupied. Canada is up next and should well compensate us in terms of overtaking.

Monaco will remain a part of F1 for as long as it continues to exist. Deal with it.

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for me, it's Mclaren

>>76226855
I fucking love Monaco what are you on about

>>76226855
>kimi wn be your dad

>>76226855
>glammer

>>76226855
I like Monte Carlo

>>76226855
Monaco is awesome, I don't get people who love F1 and can't appreciate raw skill that top drivers put in that race to drive that track perfectly. Top notch entertainment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHKbz86uHvg

>>76227015
BWOAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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>>76226889
>tfw no more McLaren Holden in aussie V8

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>>76227027
RAI second goal right now
guys, he's angry for Montreal

>>76225549
>get fucked over by your team in strategy
If Ferrari wanted to support their pole-sitter (which teams NORMALLY DO) then they would have shared the best strategy with Kimi and his race engineer wouldn't they? And Kimi's race engineer would have told him "Kimi, you really need to push on that first stint, otherwise you'll be fucked in the ass"

You could say the race engineer said this to him, but I seriously fucking doubt it, because:
1) It did not seem as if Kimi was pushing very hard, let's be honest. He was just managing a comfortable pace at the front.
2) Kimi's race engineer was unhappy after the race, and didn't want to celebrate the 1-2 with the team. So I think he probably felt he was fucked over as well. Surely if he had been included on the Ferrari meetings on strategy, and they were all on the same page, then Kimi's engineer wouldn't be sad? Instead he would think "well I told Kimi what to do, and he didn't deliver, the idiot. Not my responsibility - I told him what to do, and he didn't do it."

>>76225559
See above.

>>76227072
Where is Vettel?

>>76227126
third goal for RAI
Vettel is sleeping

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>>76227063
beautiful Mclaren
my favorite is the Mclaren Yardley BRM

>>76227123
>"Kimi, you really need to push on that first stint, otherwise you'll be fucked in the ass"

LEAVE ME ALONE, I KNOW WHAT TO DO

>>76226889
>>76227063
>>76227158
s-stop bullying me

>>76227123
They gave Kimi the best strategy, given the pace he was running. It just so happened that Vettel could run a faster pace and this means a different strategy could be applied. This isn't difficult.

>>76224780
Schumi walked that season. Button was the only one that even got close. He even out performed Barrichello (lel) in the superior Ferrari.

This season made me really appreciate his talent.

>>76227072
What is this? Is it live right now? And if so where can I watch?

>>76227160
So you're saying his engineers shouldn't give him the best strategy? ARe you complete and utter fucking idiot?

You realise he said that at the end of a race when he had the victory in the bag if he just drove it home, right? Are you seriously this dense?

>>76227177
>They gave Kimi the best strategy
AT THE VERY LEAST they would have known that the overcut was a THREAT. So why did they not tell Kimi that he needs to get a move on in that first stint? Everything suggests that he wasn't told this - in fact he wasn't really given any strategy information at all. AND HOW FUCKING CONVENIENT THAT FERRARI WAITED FIVE LAPS TO BRING SEB IN. Why the fuck did they not tell him to come in straight away? BECAUSE THEY WANTED VETTEL TO WIN, OBVIOUSLY

THEY FUCKED KIMI OVER IN THE FUCKING STRATEGY, YOU FUCKING IDIOT. THEY SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT SEB IN STRAIGHT AWAY TO RETAIN THE 1-2.

>>76227173
HEY!

You can't say that!

And how come I get fucking tied up whenever I open my mouth about bullying yet you go unscathed?

>>76227258
Jeez, more salt than in the Atlantic right there.

>>76227305
>>76227015
>tap-ins, just like his championship

>>76224780

Were you not watching then? The entire world sucked Jenson's dick because he finished 2nd at Hockenheim despite his helmet strap being loose.

>>76227305
>better 9 than piguain
wew

>>76227215
it's a charity match, it pretty much over now

MegaCorp won

>>76225474
>random graphic design school dropout straight photoshop brand names on liveries that remotely look like old school race liveries
>race fans eat it up
>literally looks worse than early 'high poly' models in race games
>literally no regard for the curvature of the car part they're photoshopping anything on
>10k retweets

>>76227333
rude

>>76227355
that was supposed to be Kimi's race anyway

>>76227015
>NIC CPR

oh no

>>76227388
the worst is the overdone reflections

>>76227388
People are just starving for cars to look good again

Lol people got used to Mercs "fair strat" that meant race till pits and thats it. Well, it might have worked when they had minimum 1s advantage on field. Now they dont so you people can forget about that. To even entertain the idea that Ferrari would pit Sebastian when he was doing 15s laps just so they can be "fair" to Kimi for being dead slow is pretty autistic desu.

Btw Kimis advantage of 1.1s before pitstop is nothing. Even pitting Vettel next doesnt mean he would not pass him as his pit stop and inlap where 1s slower.

He is just fucking slow thats all.

>>76227379
unironically this

>>76227388
>>76227457
who the fuck cares. they look good regardless of the shitty photoshop

>>76227285
shut up fatass