/f1/ - Formula One general - superior series edition

1st for fuck Gimi

>>76187431
perfect picture OP

LuckDraft isn't for me. I find it a semen slurping sport.

>>76187431
>Alonso dominates the whole race
>Leads less laps than Chilton
KEK THIS DELUSION

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>>76187431
6th for THE LACK OF POWER OF THE BROKEN DREAMS

>>76187477
best average time, pitted too early, good engine was on Sato's car

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Let's not ignore the fact that AMX got hilariously rekt yesterday

indy500 looks more fun to drive than modern f1 desu

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>>76187477
>Chilton actually lead at one point

>Alonso: The people here -- they could not sit down for three hours. I didn't miss Monaco

Monaco BTFO.

>>76187502
his radio call was hilarious

>>76187431
Michael Schumacher is a vegetable for all his bad F1 karma.

>>76187521
Based alfonso

>>76187487
yeah, quick, not good. You need to be more than quick to be good, champ

>american reading comprehension

>>76187501
>"best driver" could not advance and hold the wheel of drivers ahead of him for 30+ midrace laps

I mean Alonso truly showed some remarkable balls today but you need to get rid of your unending inferiority complex.

Sato was so lucky to win that one. Well deserved though as the whole race is a meme

>Rossi cucked by pitstop
>Alonso cucked by engine (don't tell me he wasn't a front runner)
>Hunter Reay de facto obvious winner cucked by le engine
>Scott Dixon cucked by le crash
>Chilton seemingly didn't care too much about a Indy500 win so he didn't bother defending in the final laps
>Castroneves is too old to race and seemingly didn't care about pulling a banzai

Old drivers are boring. We need Indylights but in in Indycars with no preparation doing the 500

>>76187521
Monaco ((fans)) are rich celebrities that aren't even watching the race and talking amongst themselves.


Indy 500 are 400,000 locals and travelers in Midwest that grew up as mechanics, local racers, drag racers, etc. Of the 400,000 attendies of Indy 500, I'd say 99.9% change their own oil. 0.01% of Monaco crowd change their own oil of their Bentley.

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>>76187544
Yes Schumi is proper monged up but karma doesn't exist my (((white))) friend. If you pray enough do you get god karma. How does this religious magic work?

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>>76187544
who is the boss now

>>76187569
>make post
>retract on said statement when questioned

keep it going my Kiwi friend

hello friends greetings from china

>>76187589
lelonso wasn't a front runner.

It was a shoot out between Chilton vs Castronevis vs Takuma.

Remember, Rossi won his rookie year with a superior pit strategy.

>>76187545
What's Wobbler doing in Indycar?

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Indy discussion to Indy thread

F1 discussion in F1 thread

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Finally a Ferrari fan who isn't delusional

You guys could learn from this

>>76187544
>uses innovative technology on car
>gets DSQed and banned for three races

>crashes into Hill
>DNFs

>crashes into JV
>DNFs and gets DSQed from WDC

>has brake failure and breaks his legs, misses half the season and lose WDC because of it (glad Mika won though but still)

>stall car during quali
>get moved to back of the grid

>years later people say you won because of cheating and that you deserve to be in one of the worst possible states

>>76187578
by standing behind you consume the fuel and the tyres way less, even Castroneves did the same and Sato too. Being on first position meant nothing when in reality it's all about pits and tyre/fuel management.

Kimi's hot laps were the most exciting part of Monaco, you cannot deny this

>>76187623
>pray enough

O you don't understand the concept of karma. Praying isn't involved. Its literally just if you do good stuff good stuff will come to you if you do bad stuff bad stuff will come to you.

>>76187690
Ferrari have been cucking drivers for years, why are people surprised and/or in denial about it now?

Alonso be like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Soa3gO7tL-c

>>76187617
You say american mechanics but you do not have enough good old boys to do proper pit stops. The cars break when you slightly bash the walls (Yes I have played GT & you can easily touch the walls) and your engines do not last a whole race. Shocking, sad & slippery like a slug. That is all I have to say yes. Your mechanics are nothing more than snails to me

The disgusting amount of advertising in indy is reason enough to not watch it

>>76187690
fucking Kimi was slow

fuck off with this meme, Vettel ended 7s ahead of him

>>76187682
Sato > vettel desu

>>76187641
>lelonso wasn't a front runner.
Hang on lad he was winning when I was half-watching between taking pictures of some random ginger cat. It had massive bollocks

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Upvote if you think Monaco should be dropped from the calendar

>>76187707
that's true if you are within the draft (2-3 car lengths), he was fighting the car around lap 100 and was often the first in a line of mid-pack cars down the backstretch. That is the antithesis of fuel and tire conservation, it's essentially like being in 1st.

>>76187737
B-B-BUT MUH GIMI
BWOAH

>>76187682
suk my dik lmao

anyone watching the wnba game tonight? im watching for kelsey plum

>>76187766
it absolutely should, it's the worst race by a considerable margin

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>>76187766
should happen in autumn instead when the chance of rain is higher

Oriol Servia was the best driver on the track. He was making it stick just about anywhere

>>76187766

Have some 4chin gold.

>>76187766
i think they should rework it not drop it, the qualifying is p cool on monaco

>>76187737
Kimi gave up though.

In the first stint I don't think he was that slow, he had a decent gap on Vet a few times but then they got to the lapped cars and it bunched him back up to Vet, then they pit him. Vet got a totally open track whereas Kimi literally came out at the back of the lapped cars he just wasted time passing.

>>76187763
He was in like 9th when his engine died

>>76187431
F1 kids are the most cancerous, moronic retards on the planet, and know absolutely nothing of racing, only delusion.

>>76187766

It should but it won't happen. Richfags will make sure of that.

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>>76187790
>Watching women sports
Lad that is pretty gay desu

replace monaco with lime rock

To all you Americans, I am only criticising the quality of your sports drivers, the race itself was actually quite entertaining and more fun than today's F1 race.

>>76187501
>BTFO during every restart
>failed to manage his engine and exploded it
>can't even manage to finish the race

Pathetic, really.

>>76187793
bet this guy goes on trackforum

>>76187518
>english

>>76187806
Well I was taking pictures of that cat weren't I

>>76187776
I still stand on my position they pitted him way earlier, Castroneves strategy was great and Alonso deserved it. Takuma got cheeky, some yellow flags, good management...kudos to him. Andretti wanted the nip on the podium

>>76187682
no fuck you, you guys shat up the indy thread with f1 shit the whole time, now taste your own medicine

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>>76187719
Exactly. People who deny it are utterly delusional.

>>76187737
Delusional Tifosi being delusional yet again - nothing new!

Have a look at picture related, you could learn a thing or two.

>>76187837
Quiet Ahmed I have been drinking innit. Cook us up a nice bit of cheeky naan yeah

>>76187803
no, Vettel was faster even before the pit and he was fast in the lap after Raikkonen went to the pits

Vettel and Ricciardo were both great

>>76187728
Let me check, is there a British auto industry anymore?

No? Keep Calm, okay carry on.

>>76187807
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^This

>>76187806
he was 1st or 2nd of drivers that were on his strategy
Sato was on the same strategy, only one position ahead or behind, and he won
>>76187807
I'm just making fun, I liked the race but I don't like hyping guys like Chilton or Sato as guys who should win a race that gets called "greatest race in the world"
the fact that those two don't do well in the regular Indy series shows that it's not that bad, maybe some of their drivers are really good
Alonso was the most impressive driver today though

stop shitpostin.........................unless its about lew lew hammy....

>>76187862
>you guys shat up the indy thread with f1 shit the whole time, now taste your own medicine
lol no

>>76187793
>I DURN HAD SEX WID MUH SISTUR

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What went wrong?

>>76187766
>he would rather some soulless, cookie cutter Tilkedrome shit in the middle of Timbuktu than the most historic, most characterful, and most demanding race on the calendar
Wow I'm glad I'm not this much of a cuck

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DID YOU CHUG YOUR MILK FOR SATO??????????

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>>76187862
You're welcome to stay here my (((white))) friend. What is you favourite anime lad?

>>76187883
No "mate", you're just a fucking moron

>>76187856
Every Andretti car had the same shot and were running similarly except Marco. Hunter-Reay, Alonso and Rossi just caught bad luck. Sato was with them the whole time.

>>76187893
>he was 1st or 2nd of drivers that were on his strategy
No, he lost couple of positions after the restart following his second to last stop

>>76187909
>a literally semen slurping sport

>>76187908
No. We want a track where it's possible to overtake.

>>76187891
Bit grumpy there mate. Besides I can just pop on train innit lad

>>76187908
>most historic race
That's Monza

>most characterful race
That's Singapore or Baku

>most demanding race
That's Barcelona, Singapore or Hungary

Next

>>76187893
Alonso was impressive considering the circumstances but Oriol Servia was the best straight-up driver today

>>76187907
two bad drivers unable to extract 90% of car's potential

>>76187925
he did so several times after restarts and always recovered

>>76187893
>Alonso was the most impressive driver today
This is the delusion I'm talking about, typical f1 kids.
Helio had a winglet missing nearly the entire race and was still 2nd.

>>76187881
t. ""Gordo"". What sort of fucking name is that? Pmsl.

>>76187887
>Vettel was faster even before the pit
Kimi had better times on most of the laps

>>76187641

He was in front for most of the race, he was looking racey at like P7 or something when he retired

>>76187940
Monaco has infinitely more character than SG or Baku.

>>76187959
Because he had clean air, and for that his times were shit tier

>>76187956
the fact that it was Alonso's first ever race shouldn't be ignored either tho

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>>76187969

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>>76187916
Sounding awfully bum bothered there. I imagine you are either a paki or a lefty judging off your response yeah

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>2x WDC can't keep his engine the whole race no matter the series

>F1 "reject" wins on the same engine

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>76187956
Honestly up to the crash the most impressive driver was Davidson, because he was a literal who who showed balls of steel- it should come as no surprise that a heralded F1 driver can drive almost anything fast and well

>>76187737
>fucking Kimi was slow
in Monaco you can hold a car behind you

if Ferrari didn't force Gimi into the shit strategy letting Vettel set fast laps while Gimi's tyres were still cold, he probably would've rejoined in the lead and been able to keep him behind, at least until Ferrari gave the orders to "let Sebastian by he is on a different strategy"

>>76187959
but not right before the pit
sad to say but Kimi had to push before and after the pit like Seb did

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Sing it with me lads
I DRIVE A LONELY ROAD

>>76187908
t. Prince Albert II

>>76187909

ALONSO DID

https://twitter.com/ClarkWade34/status/868934436435501056

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>>76187803
You're exactly right. KIMI SHOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE BEST STRATEGY - which of course would have been pitting second, because pitting him first was literal suicide.

Shittel fags can't face the fact that Kimi absolutely HUMILIATED HIM in qualifying, so they have to make up bullshit to try and justify why he can't win the Monaco Grand Prix unless his team rigs it for him. Jej.

>>76187887
Imagine being this delusional.

Tell me why Shittel fags keep LYING and saying that Kimi ASKED to be pitted? He didn't - HE WAS ORDERED TO (see picture related). On the radio he ASKED if he was pitting.

Shittel fags can't face the fact that Kimi beat him fair and square in qualifying, and that he should have been given the best strategy in the race - as any other team would have done (Mercedes gave Bottas the fairest chance in Bahrain - it was only AFTER Sebastian had taken the lead, and was pulling away every lap, and Hamilton had better tyres, that they asked Bottas to switch. The crucial difference is that THEY DIDN'T MAKE BOTTAS GIVE UP A RACE-WINNING POSITION).

Shittel fags know full well that Kimi earned his pole position, that Shittel just wasn't good enough, and only by having the team rig the race for him was he able to get those points that Ferrari desperately wanted him to have.

>>76187909
Reminder that Nippons are commonly lactose intolerant

>>76187940
>Most demanding race
>Not Singapore or malaysia

>>76187956
>Helio had a winglet missing
Should have looked after his own car better innit. Bit shit driver if you ask me

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>>76187766

>>76187997
>whaat straategy is hee on?

>winning the championship, kimi.
>winning the championship

>ogay

>>76187987
Where were all the american drivers today? Also still a shock you do not have enough mechanics to do a pit stop properly. A mess, a gosh darn mess this Indy thing

>>76187980
It really shouldnt given Rossi winning last year along with Chiltons pole (?) last year in lites.
Rossi>Alonso at oval racing.

What you idiots needs to realise is that indy driving skill does NOT directly translate over to Formula driving skills.

>>76188044
>can I get the championship compound on?
>no kimi, we only had one pair.

>>76187997
guys
what shit stategy?
Kimi was in 1st position, he goes in the pit first because Bottas and Vestappen went in, just like in Barcelona, Vettel could slow down Bottas and let Raikkonen fly, BUT Ricciardo was quicker and Raikkonen slow
what else can be said

>>76187698
1994 is the reason he got that negative karma, he still got the WDC.

>>76187986
God, f1 fags are so good at being wrong theyre being wrong more than once per post.
Holy shit theyre evolving.

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>>76187806
>He was in like 9th when his engine died

So he managed to take his 5th qualifying car all the way to 9th place before exploding his engine?

How impressive.

>>76188055
>indy driving skill
>(you)

>>76188059
>what shit stategy?
>he goes in the pit first
You answered your own question

>>76188011
>HE WAS ORDERED TO
OFFCOUSE
HE WAS SHITTING WITH THOSE TYRES

>>76188059
Pilelli said pre-race that overcut > undercut

>>76188055
>Rossi>Alonso at oval racing.
that's like saying Olivier Panis is one of the best Monaco, Rossi won because of strategy
he was on similar pace today as Alonso was but not better and Rossi has more experience in the series

>>76187807
This is true, my Muslim friend.

>>76188048
where were the British drivers today?

oh yeah, choking on the last few laps ahahahaha

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>>76188066
It is ok my southern friend. Also nice repeating digits. Make a wish

>>76188020
Wrong again, faggots

>>76188073
You're just proving more and more that you know nothing about racing

>>76187983
>no reputable rebuttal
lmao

>>76188063
that's also when he got a DSQ and had to iss three races

>>76188079
>more experience in the series
>when he was a rookie
I'm done with you fucking idiots

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>>76187938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_ZYZIP6wRE

>>76187891
Picture related. Just broke the Nurburgring lap record. Give us a call when a yank call does that mate.

>>76187940
>some modern chink track is more characterful than Monaco
Houston to sides, Houston to sides, come in sides

>barcelona is more demanding than monaco
Barcelona's literally one of the easiest fucking tracks on the calendar

>>76188073
and?
I really don't see the problem, Raikkonen was slow, if he was faster Vettel would have been behind Raikkonen after the pit
Raikkonen was in 1st position, nobody infront of him
>>76188078
yeah like Ricciardo with Vestappen, come on now

>>76187881
Pretty fucking sad when you finally land a pole position and have the best chance of winning a race in years and "your" team decides to fuck you anyway.

WTG Ferrari.

>>76188095
nice reading comprehension there m8. maybe you should calm down a bit

>>76188090
But this was your event on home ground. You had no strong, real drivers to defend your nation. On memorial day you let a relative of pearl harbour win in a cake walk of a race. Such low energy you americans. You should call up HAM as he is a proud american but is in F1. Call him. Post things on instagram. Win Indy next year with an american driver, You can do it. Maybe

Drop Monaco, put the drivers in Indycars with 0 prep and throw them in the 500.

https://streamable.com/cvc9q
Alonso post-race press conferece

>>76188073
>kimi pits first
>vet keeps driving

If it was just a normal strategy Vet would come in the next lap like normal

>>76188120
By pitting him early but leaving Vettel out, it showed that Ferrari knew the overcut was the correct strategy. Old Ultrasofts that were up to temperature faster than new Supersofts that were cold.

>>76188095
You cannot defend to old BR from breaking his car & losing today. I feel sorry for you

>>76188131
meant to quote >>76188111

>>76188131
>proves someone wrong
>"y-you read m-my post wrong"
F1 fans, BY FAR the most retarded people on the planet

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>>76187966
The winners of Indy 500 don't care if they are leading from lap 1-100.

-Fuel/Rev settings for long haul at start of the race. Race Position doesn't matter yet. Just be in the top half all race.

-On lap 150/200, be in the top 8.

-On lap 180/200, be in the top 4

-On final 15 laps start pushing your car to the limit to get to 1st, 2nd or 3rd. On the last 5 laps give it the beans to sling shot ahead.

Alonso blew his engine because he ran 110% all race when everyone else had their engine settings on cruise

>>76187454
>nobody noticed

>>76188170
it wasnt even my post bro

>>76188165
Wanna try that sentence again?

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>when you are 1 second slower but somehow the team wanted to fuck you up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCD9gGAsGkw

Raikkonen overacted on the podium, but I'm sure he understands now
the team before everything else, Vettel couldn't stop just make him win

>>76188170
>>"y-you read m-my post wrong"
except it wasn't Norway's post you replied to

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>America in charge of ruining yet another thread

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>>76188183
Nah I'm good lad. How is your nan anyway?

>>76188175
>Alonso blew his engine because he ran 110% all race when everyone else had their engine settings on cruise
based on what?

>>76187908
I'm with the Brit on this one.

I'm just sad for Alonso.
Will he ever win again?

>>76188194
could have ordered vettel in one lap after kimi
like mercedes always did with rosham/hamros

>>76188162
They agreed before the race that the leading car pits first you fucking faggot countryballing loser

Old slow Finn lost, move on

>>76188162
do you realize that Raikkonen ended up ahead of Sainz after the pit? Technically he should have been behind him, so the pit worked, the part that didn't worked out is that Raikkonen should have pushed before the pit

>>76187940
But thats where ur wrong!
Historic: Between Spa and Imola.
Character: Interlagos
Demanding: Magny Course and Malaysia.
>>76188019
Agreed fellow leaf with malaysia.

>>76188059
They didnt watch that race, thats why they missed that crucial moment, then again they're retards and ur failing by replying to them .

>>76188214
Why should they do that when Gimi was slower than Vettel? Either on purpose or not, he was slow as fuck.

>>76188139
American won last year
let the Japs have their chance

>>76188073
This, Vettel cumguzzlers BTFO

>>76188120
>if he was faster Vettel would have been behind Raikkonen after the pit
Vettel was left out on the fastest tyre and was in clean air, AND HE KNEW HE WAS ABOUT TO BE PITTED, so he didn't have to worry about conservation, he just hammered it.

What about Kimi, did he know what was happening? Looks like the team didn't tell him at all - apart from suddenly that they wanted to pit him.

>Amid suggestions his race strategy was chosen in a way that would benefit Vettel’s title hopes, when asked why he pitted when he did, Raikkonen added: “I was called in. That is about it.

>“Obviously they had reasons for it, but it is not up to me to answer.

>“I can stop the car if I like [in the pits] as I am driving it, but we work as a team and if you don’t believe what you have been told or how it works it will get very complicated.

>“Today as a team we wanted a one-two, it happened, but for myself, I could have done a bit better. I haven’t seen the big picture, I only know that we came second.

>“The team got a one-two, which is great for the team, but the rest – until we have meetings and we can see all the graphs I don’t know.”

Notice that part about "if you don't believe what you have been told... it will get very complicated". Kimi trusted the team to give him the best strategy. And they deliberately fucked him over.

>>76188162
Exactly.

>>76188250
I'm not complaining, but it's the same problem Mercedes had to face for three seasons. Someone will always be butthurt.

>>76188106
Wasnt australia last race that year? When he crashed into Hill and got hi lout as a result, he became WDC and that's why.

>>76188221
I'm not even a Kimi fan lol

I'm just pointing out that Ferrari gave Vettel the better strategy intentionally, because they left Vettel out while Kimi was told to come in early

I'm not suggesting Kimi should have won or that Ferrari are literally Saatana

>>76187997
This faggot literally wants Vettel to go slower so Kimi can retain the lead but cries about team orders when they go the other way

What a fucking hypocrite

>>76188275
Would you say that Vettel deserved the better strategy because he was clearly the fastest man on the grid today?

The usual "if he's so fast he can overtake on the track" doesn't apply here.

>>76188106
Got him out*

>>76188212
Hopefully he will come back to Indy another year. I think he can win it for certain if he tries a couple more times

>>76188154
Normal strategy is to pit the one blocking the front, specially if you're redbull. Amx got Webber'd

I can't believe people care this much. Team orders aren't illegal and Vettel's Ferrari's best hope for the title in a decade. Of course they're going to back him. Imagine if they lost the drivers championship by a handful of points!

>>76188271
>Vettel was left out on the fastest tyre and was in clean air, AND HE KNEW HE WAS ABOUT TO BE PITTED, so he didn't have to worry about conservation, he just hammered it.
NO
Raikkonen was slower even with Ultrasoft before the pit
>What about Kimi, did he know what was happening? Looks like the team didn't tell him at all - apart from suddenly that they wanted to pit him.
you are memeing now
>Kimi trusted the team to give him the best strategy.
KIMI HAD TO PUSH 3 LAPS BEFORE THE PIT TO STAY AHEAD OF SEB
that's it, he didn't, same with Vestappen

>>76188275
You do know they can't really make Vettel do anything right? If the tyres were still good why on earth should he pit?

If Kimi wasn't slow he would have retained the lead. You act like an overcut is instant lead position.

If they told Vettel to slow down that would be the least sportsmanlike thing possible.

The reason Vettel won is precisely cause there were no team orders.

>>76188339
IT WASN'T A TEAM ORDER

This is called RACING, within the team.

>>76188302
Kimi was leading and if he was faster than Vet he could've opened a gap during the first stint. After all Vet was running in his dirty air etc. He didn't and it was obvious that right before the first stops Bot and the red bulls were gaining on the Ferraris. For me the only bad decision was not pitting him a lap or two before that in order to avoid the lapped cars, but again it would've been the same, cause the ultrasofts were simply faster.

>>76188120
>F1 "race" fans defending their shitty car baby and team order series

Being so pathetic that you support team orders cucking a former WDC out of his first race victory in years.

>>76188395
There was no team order you pathetic wanker.

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>>76187431
Every time I see a NASCAR thread, I just shake my head and laugh.

You severely damaged losers are literally the Bronies of /sp/. You know, that sub-group of 4chan kids who obsess over the preschool girl show My Little Pony? You probably don't know since all of you pathetic losers are far too busy fapping to NASCAR drivers and wishing that NASCAR was relevant. Why on earth would a group of you no-lives cling heavily to something as sad as this? Is there some sort of mental sickness in you guys? Did you not have a childhood? Do you not have a grasp on reality? How can you allow yourselves to deteriorate to this?

At first, I figured it was one lonely kid making these threads and bumping all day while crying in the basement for being such a useless waste of life... but then, I realized this isn't one kid doing this. There are at least fifteen of you in these threads that are getting hard over NASCAR. There isn't any doubt that all of you autists are fat, out of shape, and friendless.

Is that the thrill you kids get from these threads? Is it the fact that they can only turn left and can't even get off of your bed to empty out your piss bottle? Do you not realize that this board doesn't exist for you and your sick fetish? If not, then
WHAT THE FUCK IS YOUR FIXATION?

I'm speaking for /sp/ as a whole, and possibly, your families as well. Just stop. This isn't healthy. Stop now and try to live a regular life. How embarrassed must your family feel when they have to explain to your aunt and uncle that you want to spend you life watching an inferior form of motorsport.

Just stop already. Quit with the silly threads. OP, delete this thread. Kids, clear your browser history and delete all the files you have of shitty NASCAR drivers.

NASCAR is for dumb retarded hillbillies who can't comprehend cars with more than 4 gears or circuits with more than 4 turns. Not a single one of those retarded redneck NASCAR drivers would last more than 2 laps at Monaco

>>76188300
>>76188343
When did I say Vettel should slow down? All I'm saying is Ferrari intentionally gave Vettel the better strategy to get him past Kimi. You're getting a little bit worked up here, Felix.

>>76188361
It was totally a team order.

They totally fucked Kimi right in the ass with a big black Italian sausage.

>>76188339
Shittel cumguzzlers can't even admit it was team orders though, that's the funniest part.

They can't face the fact that Kimi was simply faster in qualifying. They can't face that he simply wasn't good enough to win the race by himself so the team had to rig the race for him.

>>76188361
Except it was a team order. They told Kimi to stop. And it seemed like Kimi didn't really know what was going on, he just trusted the team.

>Amid suggestions his race strategy was chosen in a way that would benefit Vettel’s title hopes, when asked why he pitted when he did, Raikkonen added: “I was called in. That is about it.
>“Obviously they had reasons for it, but it is not up to me to answer.
>“I can stop the car if I like [in the pits] as I am driving it, but we work as a team and if you don’t believe what you have been told or how it works it will get very complicated.

He trusted the team to give him the best strategy. And they deliberately fucked him over.

>>76188395
it's called Racing

>>76188421
There were totally team orders, and they were issued to fuck over Kimi instead of supporting him to win the race.

I saw Sebastian Vettel at the FIA headquarters in Paris yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.

He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”

I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and waving his finger in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen World Championships in his hands without paying.

Bernie at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Seb, you need to let me rig those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear him, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.

When he took one of the championships and started rigging it multiple times, he stopped him and told him to rig them each individually “to prevent any teammate infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After he scanned each championship and put them in a bag and started to say the dicksucking price, he kept interrupting him by going YES YES YES YES GRAZIE RAGAZZI really loudly.

>>76188395
stop riding the butthurt of finnish and british flags

ferrari and vettel did nothing wrong today

>>76188456
the burden of proof is on you however

RETARD LOGIC

>Ferrari fucked up strategy in China and lost the win
>Ferrari fucked up strategy in Spain and lost the win
>Ferrari successfully pulled off a 5D chess strategy using backmarkers, overcuts, barometric pressure, and the Chinese horoscope, to screw Kimi out of a win

RETARD LOGIC

>>76188487
least of all Vettel, what is he supposed to do?

>>76188341
>Raikkonen was slower
Can you give me some lap times so I can see? I haven't seen what the lap times were.

Let's be totally honest - if Ferrari wanted Kimi to win (they should have supported him because he had won pole FAIR AND SQUARE, just like Mercedes have supported Bottas when he has been in race-winning positions) then they would have said to him "Kimi we need you to push hard now, so that you will still be in front of Seb after we pit him".

Notice that they didn't say that? They didn't say jack shit. Which is why Kimi said in the post-race interviews:

>“I was called in. That is about it. Obviously they had reasons for it, but it is not up to me to answer.
>“I can stop the car if I like [in the pits] as I am driving it, but we work as a team and if you don’t believe what you have been told or how it works it will get very complicated.

He was trusting them, and they deliberately fucked him over.

>KIMI HAD TO PUSH 3 LAPS BEFORE THE PIT
Can you give me a radio message when the team told him to do this? Or a radio message when they told him that he would be coming in in 3 laps time? I could be wrong, but I think they basically said to him "box now, box now".

>>76188456
100% no multi 21 type team orders to tell Gimi to go slow so Sebastian can go faster later and pass him

There were engineer instructions to push/comserve/tell the driver to box ect, but that's not what we are talking about.

Of course we can wait for the full radio transcripts to be released but you won't find anything to support your team order argument

>>76188497
I laughed at this post

>>76188438
"Racing" is what happens on the track when the drivers decide the outcome based on their driving skill.

That doesn't exist in F1, as the cars aren't anywhere near being balanced in performance, and the teams intentionally manipulate their favorite drivers success or failure.

So why did Stroll retire today?

>>76188497
Quality post

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listen Lewis
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2017/05/28/2017-monaco-grand-prix-interactive-lap-times-and-fastest-laps/

there was no team order

>>76188497
I get the feeling that they are improving, their losses involve far less spaghetti than last seasons.

>only lose due to SC in China
>under immense pressure in Spain

They're doing well so far

>>76188212
Doubtful
Atleast he won't win anything at F1, that's for sure.

>>76188531
his brakes were overheating behind the safety car because not enough cool air getting to them

his team told him "stop braking so hard or you're going to fry your brakes"

he said "but what am i supposed to do, if i don't brake enough i'm going to have cold brakes on the restart and crash, please help me"

then he fried his brakes

>>76188519
>inb4 pit Alonso early and give him the bad engine

>>76188395
This. But these Shittel cumguzzlers can't face the fact that Kimi was simply superior in qualifying, and that the only way Shittel could win this race was by the team rigging the race for him.

>>76188421
>>76188438
See above.

>>76188487
>people who have different opinions to me are only listening to others! they can't possibly have good reasons for their opinions!
What a cuck you are. Really you should be able to provide good reasons against his argument. But you can't.

>>76188502
The fault is the team's really, they're the ones who deliberately gave Vettel the best strategy option.

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This was planned. The eternal jap strikes nando once again

>>76188592
>>76188556

>>76188578
Wow, that's sad

>>76188119
That's the exception, not the rule.

>>76188578
top kek if that's anywhere close to the truth

>>76188592
your argument is butthurt, get over it you fegits

>>76188531
He was afraid he was going to crash.
Quote of the day:
I'm going to crash
-$tro££

is this Vettel-hating britbong the same one who told every other britbong to stop impersonating him?

>>76188201
>women
>driving in F1

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>>76188627
it's kinda obvious really

>>76188641
thats me

>>76188627
I'm pretty sure that's just Ted.

>>76188668
Nah he has never defended Palmer or Stroll from memory

>>76188212
When Alonso leave McLaren-Honda, they will make a Mercedes slaying engine the very next year.

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>>76188011
Kimi fags can't accept that Vettel is simply better. Maybe you can console yourself with Wobbler fans

>>76188627
Yes.

There was this loser impersonating my post style to ruin my reputation.

>>76188623
Not even having an argument. You're wrong, I'm right.

>>76188675
It would've been too obvious then.

I am done with F1. This was the most undeserved, disgusting win i have ever seen. First the fucking cunt lucks out with Rosdumb wrecking his car under the SC, then Red Bull fucks up worse than they have ever fucked up before, and just to fucking top it off he uses dirty tactics to defend against the massively faster RIC without getting fucking penalized BECAUSE HE DIDNDONUFFINGATTAGOODBOY FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT FUCLKING CUNTG$§RTE"§

this was rics race
i hope his dick gets fucking stuck in biebers ass tonight

Formula 1 is a spec series btw

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let's this sink in
2 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari 1’15.238 lap 38
3 Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari 1’15.527 lap 39

>>76188682
Well Kimi is pretty old. Would like to see him win at least once.
We still have Bottas

>>76188426
Here's you (you). Now fuck off.

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>>76188652

>not being on /team Flörsch/

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>>76188456
This

>>76188490
>Amid suggestions his race strategy was chosen in a way that would benefit Vettel’s title hopes, when asked why he pitted when he did, Raikkonen added: “I was called in. That is about it.
>“Obviously they had reasons for it, but it is not up to me to answer.
>“I can stop the car if I like [in the pits] as I am driving it, but we work as a team and if you don’t believe what you have been told or how it works it will get very complicated.

I can only show you the evidence, but if you choose to ignore it then that's your call, Sebastian.

>>76188556
>there was no team order
How delusional do you have to be to ignore the fact that Ferrari chose to give the best strategy to the guy who was second best in qualifying. Utterly, utterly delusional.

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>>76188682
>b-b-but muh Gimi
>m-m-muh Iceman
>b-b-woah

They're a bunch of idiots who are deluding themselves.

>>76188747
my FantasyGP /teamflörsch/ is climbing up the ranks

>>76188729
No the team turned down his engine speed intentionally
He out drove the car for the shitty engine mode they gave him

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>>76188729
Checo barely faster 40 laps later than VetGOAT before the pitstops

I'll just leave this here for you to rage over

http://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/motorsport/89714548/lewis-hamilton-f1-cars-sound-terrible-and-the-sport-isnt-winning

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Vettel is beating Hamilton even though Hamilton is in the best car on the grid

>>76188204
nothing

>>76188754
First of all I'm /teamgimi/, so you can drop the sebastian. Anyway, RAI and VET were losing time agains BOT and red bull before the pit. At one point they had 6-8 sec gap and by the time they started lapping it was down to 2,5 or whatever. Obviously it was Kimi's fault since he was in the lead.

P.S. differences might be inaccurate, haven't checked them

>>76188816
>name my band

Official Races That Took Place Today Power Rankings:

1. Giro d'Italia (not just for today but for the preceeding few days of complete tension)
2. Indy 500
3. Nurburgring 24

power gap

9. Monaco GP
10. Coke 600

>>76188766

Thanks for reminding me to check the results.


>You scored 151 points
>The Top score was 198 points
>Your World Ranking was: 186 / 9506

Not bad for once :^)

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Why did the bad guys win today?

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>>76188754
>He saved the shit version

Also that isn't proof that's speculation and hindsight.

>>76188816
if it is the best car on the grid then why did Ferrari get a front row lockout, 1-2 and neither Mercedes finished on the podium?

>>76188747
Do you really think women in F1 is possible? Women aren't even allowed to drive in some the countries they go. (Bahrain, Abu Dhabi) They're not about drop these locations just to let a woman drive.

>>76188836
Nurburgring was great this morning
giro is always great
indy is overrated as always, I mean Chilton
Coke 600 sounds memey to me

>>76188846
Mercedes will dominate in Canada imho

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>>76188846

because Monaco evens out the field more than any other track

>>76188846
I think the Merc is better when they get inside the tyre windows, but they often fail to achieve that so far.

>>76188871
Didn't one or both of those counties have a law change recently letting women drive?

>>76187690
friendly reminder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqJBeFrj1Yg

>>76187766
They should make Monaco a bike race desu

At least Button would have a chance then

>>76188881
coke 600 sounds as if pepsi sponsored indy 500 so they made a new one

>>76188892
I don't know. Still. I don't think women in F1 is likely.

>>76188894
reminder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCmT9A7mCwM

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>Alonso is behind Stroll, Palmer and Ericsson in F1 WDC

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>>76188871
>Do you really think women in F1 is possible?


Of course. Talent has nothing to do with being in F1, m8.
>pic related

>>76188886
Monaco isn't a driver circuit baka desu senpai, the car still makes the bigger difference

>>76188888
so if their car fails to reliably get the tyres to the working temperature, then surely it isn't the best?

>>76188919
Its not likely but not for legal reasons

>>76188845
i made the shit version as you called it as a joke meme and i'm very disappointed that it isn't being used ironically as i intended it to be and has now been reduced to being used by the Don't Impersonate Me shitbong

>Satocucks
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAAAA

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>>76188950
>Monaco isn't a driver circuit

>>76188934
yeah, but the best woman is worse than fucking ma qing hua or rio haryanto

there's a cutoff between talentless and below the 107% rule

>>76188911
Dr.Pepper 700 when

>>76188950
I never said it's the best, that was a burger. Just saying that the car is the fastest car whenever it gets the tyres working

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just found out about nando

holy fuck

What on earth needs to happen for Honda to change something. How far up their own ass are they exactly?

>>76188963
added to the list

>german weaboo
>fat nick
>spec series burger
>contrarian aussie fag
>bahamas ricciardo fag
>unironic hamilton britbong
>reddit obsessed aussie
>german redditor
>angry finlander
>typical AMD AMX toothpastes
>aussie autist who pastes >>/rules/ constantly
>favela daryl monkey
>daryl obsessed aussie
>dutch cycling faggot
>don’t impersonate me shitbong

>>76188928
the team manager sucks, and honda too
#bringbackRON

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Who bottas bot here?

>>76189020
They just won the biggest race of the year with a Japanese driver so they ain't changing

>>76188999
Don't know but MountainDew 800 might be a thing soon.

>>76189034

post emilia pls

>>76189002
True, but how it works the tyres is an inherent feature of the car, like how the Lotuses in 2012 and 2013 were kind on the tyres so were faster in races than a car with their amount of downforce normally would be

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>>76189025
i think unironic """"brit""" - the "multi-reply hamilton" autist, and the "don't impersonate me guy are the same

>>76188934
Lad, say what you will about his 'decisions', but Maldonado did have talent.

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>>76189055

>>76189025
you forgot me - "handsome brit with huge penis whose opinions are always correct"

>>76189062
The Merc isn't the best car, if that's what you want to hear. Never claimed it was anyway.
They brought that massive update to Spain in order to "understand" tyre temperature and it was worth fuck all.
If this goes on we can prepare for haufenweiße spaghetti

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>>76189025
>tfw not on the list

>>76189055

>>76189067
I think so too

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>>76188816
But he's not, they're very closely matched

I reckon Mercedes still has the power advantage, so tracks with long straights they're better on.

But Ferrari's sidepods are very clever - I think they have the aerodynamic advantage. And clearly they're making the tyres work much better.

>>76188827
>Obviously it was Kimi's fault since he was in the lead.
Ferrari didn't even tell Kimi to push, they didn't tell him shit, they didn't tell him when he would be pitting, he just trusted them, and they suddenly ordered him to pit. He trusted this was correct, he even said as much after the race. But the team had fucked him. They deliberately gave the opportunity for Vettel to hammer out laps. Why? Because they want Vettel to win and they don't want Kimi to win.

Remember how Mercedes used to insist that their drivers pit within a lap of each other, to avoid such a situation? That's because Mercedes were always committed to the idea of fair racing. Ferrari aren't, and never have been. Nothing new from the most unsporting team in F1.

>>76189137
jesus yeah I'm sorry, added

>>76189086

Yep. Palmer didn't win his lol4thyear GP2 title by being shit either.

But the only reason either of them ever got an F1 drive was money.

i wish f1 could have a little bit of based buttons banter

>>76188845
>speculation
>hindsight
You think it is "speculation" that the team ordered Kimi to pit? You think this is "hindsight"? You're implying that Kimi is lying? Is this what you believe?

>>76189155
>Remember how Mercedes used to insist that their drivers pit within a lap of each other, to avoid such a situation? That's because Mercedes were always committed to the idea of fair racing.
That's because Mercedes never had to fear competition you cretin

>>76189160
>i brrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaapppppp in your seat
what did he mean by this?

>>76189160
why doesnt no one care about i drive to wall during safety car ericsson

>>76189155
>Mercedes were always committed to the idea of fair racing.

LOL Tell that to Bottas

>>76189201
>That's because Mercedes never had to fear competition you cretin

Neither do Ferrari this season. They should have won every race this season.

It's odd that Williams' twitter mentions Massa's twitter handle, but just call Lance by his name, kek.

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>>76189238
>Neither do Ferrari this season.
disregarded

>>76189238
mercedes has out qualified ferrari 4 to 2 so far. Hamilton has the best car

>>76187617
>changing oil
just buy a new car

>>76189025
which one is the /teamflörsch/ anon(s)?

>>76187617
>I'd say 99.9% change their own oil.

yeah, the Izod Indy crowd changing their own oil

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>>76189275
>buying a new car
just pay someone to buy a car for you

>>76189286
just posting /teamflörsch/ isn't enough. I do it too sometimes when I'm bored

>>76189235

Speaking of which...

Mercedes use team orders to help Lewis:
>David Croft: "It's the right thing to do"

Ferrari """""use team orders""""" to help Vettel:
>David Croft: "THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS"

>>76187617
>and travelers
pikeys??

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>>76189025
>typical AMD AMX toothpastes
IM ON THE LIST YAY

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You now remember Buddy "I crashed" Slowzier

>>76189025
Tbh Italians are the comfiest /f1/ posters

>>76188934
lotus is owbed by geely now

>>76189306
>driving cars
why aren't you getting around with your personal helicopter?

>bottas lireally moves out of the way @bahrain to let the nigger pass.
>no problems here
>vettel scores quali tier lap times with older tyres and gets in front of gimi
>WTF REEEE RIGGED

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>>76189286
>he's not a /Team Flörsch/ anon

Pleb.

>>76188434
vettel was always faster than kimi. he had better pace during the race, he fucked up the in the second sector in Q3 and was still very close to kimi. Vettel's potential is just way superior to kimi's potential.

>>76189327
No they were in Monaco

>>76189155
Not everything is a conspiracy against hamilnigger though. What's the point of risking the two cars being caught, when you can secure the win and still have a very good chance of a 1-2.
Last year in the last year Merc did the same, by ordering hamilnigger to let nico pass, because someone was catching them.

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>>76189323

>>76187737
hence why he started in pole position

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>>76189353

>>76189305
The 500 attendees are more of the track forum crowd

>>76189201
So you admit that this was a team order?

>>76189235
In Bahrain he had already lost the race winning position. Vettel was ahead, and Bottas was losing time. Hamilton was quicker. Bottas was struggling for pace. Bottas clearly wasn't going to get the victory - they thought Lewis was the best chance of reeling in Seb, which he did (as much as he could).

In Russia Bottas won the race leadership for himself, and the team obviously didn't order him to give it up or anything.

In this race, Ferrari deliberately fucked up Raikkonen's race winning position so that Vettel could grab it, because they want Vettel to win - simple as that

>>76187944
>Massa
>bad
yeah, kid. For sure.

If the safety car didn't come out, ricciardo would've taken 2nd. contentious but true

>Last year
>Merc clearly has the better car
>Drivers just about equal leading to a good battle

>This year
>Ferrari clearly has the better car
>One is vastly superior to the other leading to a single driver domination

Vettel will win the title by Japan.

>>76189396
them mental gymnastics, holy shit

>>76189396
>In this race, Ferrari deliberately fucked up Raikkonen's race winning position so that Vettel could grab it, because they want Vettel to win - simple as that
It's nothing new in Ferrari
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqJBeFrj1Yg