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>>76098408
Second for disagreement.
Most Motorsport has its place, a rising tide raises all boats.
The real competition Motorsport has is every other kind of programming on television.

>>76098408
Rude to be desu

inb4 pruned or deleted

When's the next driving session / practice?

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In a little over 2 hours we'll get to see the 2018 Road/street course aero.
>Why should I care?
Because they've actively tried to design it with form and function in mind. The will take design cues from CART and Champ Car, while the function takes a page out of champ car's book, whereby it has a heavy focus on undertray downforce and clean air on top.

Should look pretty 2pm ET is when we'll see it. Hoping for good things.


In the future this may also lead to teams editing small areas of the cars themselves, but that's optimistic, let's just hope for a pretty car first.

>>76098524
Carb day

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>>76098524
Carb Day(Saturday I think?), it's just an hour session for install laps and making sure equipment is ready for Race day.
Otherwise we're prepped for Sunday.

The main things to follow now are just drivers on the media tour, technical talk, and history courtesy of Robin Miller(though he's always a bit hazy) and Marshall Pruett.
Donald Davison is another guy who knows his Indy 500 history unbelievably well.

>>76098524
Friday

For those bored, here's the IMS Museum tour with Robin and Marshall. AJ Foyt is a living legend, I'm not sure if there's another driver who has ever won as many races if we add all his Indycar, Sprint, Midget, NASCAR, Le Mans wins together.
That's what the museum displays are about lots of cool old cars and history here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ5tXsdvIXE (part 1)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Av7hslncBpw (part 2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYkizzfsXoM (part 3)

>>76098630
thanks

>>76098570
>>76098630
Robin Miller and Marshall Pruett videos are super comfy

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How many Indycar drivers have a pro wrestling background?

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>>76098690
Paul Tracy was the closest guy to it.
He mistook racing for car wrestling sometimes, despite this he was a good driver.
He was an old breed of Leaf that didn't take shit from anyone and was nobody's nu-male.

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>>76098630
Foyt is God

Button doesn't want to drive Indy, well no shit you cuck.
http://www.racer.com/f1/item/140804-button-covets-nascar-driver-rather-than-indy

We get it, Wheldon passed and Justin did too. The reality is that racing is dangerous and we'll engineer until it's nearly riskless, but those guys were doing what they loved, who are you to be a condescending fuckhead.

Both you and Hamilton are in the same puss boat. Fernando wanted to race something, to be something greater than you, hell he already is.

>>76098570
Carb day is Friday.

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This car looks good

>>76099220
>metal suspension
>not carbon fibre

IndyCars really are about 20 or 30 years behind F1 aren't they

>>76099542
that is carbon... are all bongs this dumb?

>>76099556

You sure? It looks like chrome to me

>>76099691
carbon fiber with a clear coat reflects light... this seems well waxed as it appears to be at a car show or something. You could look at any image of the current car under natural light and see clearly it is carbon.

>>76099542

Even if it was metal suspension it still looks better than modern F1 cars.

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Hoping for better pictures soon.

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Here's some.

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>>76100352
>>76100404
sexy

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We also recieved the updated oval kit which I'll post a few here soon.

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I still hate the platypus nose, but overall, especially from the side the car looks really good.

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Look ma, no pods.

so they're just renderings? I thought we were supposed to see something substantial since they're supposed to begin testing in the summer

>>76099220
nice

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>>76100601
Testing begins in July.
These are basically 100% accurate renderings.

>>76100571
Looking forward to another Dan Wheldon-esque fatal 2 races into the season

>>76100644
There were a lot more factors than open wheels involved that made the race at Vegas dangerous.
The incident likely would have happened even in the DW12.
We don't see that kind of racing much anymore thank God.

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Last one.

>>76100643
I'll believe it when I see it. Dallara significantly changed the design of the IR12 from the renderings to final product after it was selected by the """ICONIC""" committee.

>>76100783
Dallara may not even be the manufacturers of the aero bits, but the silence is deafening.
Regardless this is exactly what they tested in the wind tunnels and simulations.
Dallara also wasn't originally planning to make the aero pieces in 2012, the aero kit plan was supposed to start then, not 2015.

https://twitter.com/FollowAndretti/status/867385299076337665

Satomania has spread like wildfire through local schools. The madness is unstoppable

>>76100933
kek

Raw video of another Indycar driver being robbed by juveniles

https://twitter.com/mikhailaleshin/status/867452624685203458

>>76101406
meeting an actual Russian hacker in real life is exciting these days

>>76101454
I wonder if he uses wallhacks in CSGO

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friendly reminder some of the best and most successful Indycar drivers have been EXPOSED in F1 before

>>76101595
>sato
>successful

>>76101595
Takuma came over to Indycar and did miserable here too.
Not sure I follow.

>>76101595
Montoya didn't even start two races

>>76101690
I remember he almost won Indy 500 once and crashed towards the end.
>>76101734
those races would have given him a maximum of 20 points which if he had gotten those he would still have been a lot behind his teammate
and it's also noteworthy that Raikkonen had a DNF in one of the races Montoya missed

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>>76101595
And some times Indycar drivers expose the so-called "GOAT" into spilling major spaghetti in his prime.

>>76101984
How did Montoya have so many retirements?
I didn't watch that season.

Also
The 500 is kind of a crapshoot as to who will come out on top unless there are minimal yellows.

>>76102055
you probably missed where I added "same car" to the left of the image
but yeah, Jacques "F1 is the pinnacle of racing" Villeneuve had a great season ;^)

>>76102103
if I recall correctly the merc engine was unreliable but fast and he probably crashed a few times

>>76102103
China and Hungary were his own fault because he hit things before and during the race respectively
in Japan he got crashed out by former Indy champ Villeneuve
others were reliability issues which the car that season was notorious for but it hit his teammate worse (got moved back ten places at the start at least three times because he had engine failures during free practise)

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>it's an autistic German episode

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well turns out that Takuma Sato was basically shit his entire career and got careed by Honda
unlike my boy Kamui, the true racing God of Nippon, who didn't need Toyota to have proper drives and actually beat good teammates

>>76102610
>kamui after 1 birru

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i feel bad for the japs desu

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>>76098408
>follow the leader>passing

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*comes in 12th*

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>>76099556

Quit spreading cancer.

>>76100643
That back wing is so stupid looking. I thought it was mounted wider from the first rendering they put out

>>76100525
And how the hell is that steel beam of a tail light going to fly saftey-wise? They need to make the back more compact.

>>76101595

The big difference between F1 and Indy is that in F1 they just drive the cars, while in Indy, they have to actually race.

That's not a hit on the F1 drivers, but they're just caught in a shit series that basically wastes any talent they may have by being car dependent, rather than driver skill dependent. Other series are much more reliant on driver skill, which is why F1 is shit tier when it comes to actual racing.

*bumps thread*

>>76104822
F1 can have great racing and it had so the last race e.g., but I will admit that F1 has a lack of parity when it comes to cars and that that is not a good thing (for racing or to compare drivers).

Nielsen says of U.S. viewers who watch either Indy 500 or Coke 600, only 18% watch both. And only 2% watch all three (Indy/Coke/Monaco).

What in the fuck is wrong with people?

>>76105008
What is Coke 600?

>>76105025
/TURNLEFT/

>>76105025
The most boring race of the year in NASCAR because Charlotte
And now, NASCAR done went full retard and fucked with the track by laying trackbite down on it

>>76105008
I am the 2% I guess, though I watch Monaco after the fact after indy

>>76100327
>>76100352
>>76100404
fuck yes. this is how an open wheel race car is supposed to look. modern F1 looks like over engineered trash

>>76104916
>F1 has a lack of parity when it comes to cars and that that is not a good thing (for racing or to compare drivers).

Agree 100%

The race is pretty much irrelevant compared to the qualification runs in F1, as the car starting in P1 or P2 is going to win more than 90% of the time, barring collisions or mechanical defects. So what's the point?

F1 should just stick with the manufacturing series mantra, eliminate the race day, and just stick with single car, single lap, all out runs for time, in an elimination format like downhill skiing, as the "races" are just a waste of time and boring as fuck to watch.

>>76105733
>being proud of the fact that the race outcomes in his series are random

>>76105780
They wouldn't be so random if Indycar opened the pits under caution and installed a speed limit under yellow.

>>76105780

It's not "random", it's based on who drives better during quali and the race, as opposed to driving the same superior car vs. outmatched cars every single "race".

I don't see how F1 "champions" can live with themselves, knowing that the only reason they won is because they didn't get stuck with the shit cars like 75% of the rest of the drivers.

>>76106222
this.

"World Driver Champion" my ass.

Where can a bong like myself watch the 500 without BT sports??

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>>76102055
>conveniently using the 1997 season
Hey, I can do it too!

>>76106222
>>76105733
Not completely true though. Senna has one of the best pole averages and didn't win a third of those races in which he got pole

>inb4 that was 500 years ago!
Schumacher has a few more pole positions than senna and won twice as many races

>inb4 best car!
sometimes that happens, sometimes in f1 a car can be too good, which is what happened between 2001 and 2004 with Ferrari, or what happenened between 2014 and 2016 with Mercedes. Most of the times though, like this season, it isn't the case.

>It's not "random", it's based on who drives better during quali and the race, as opposed to driving the same superior car vs. outmatched cars every single "race".

Maybe, but you also have to consider driver skills. Every driver takes a turn differently, some can do it fast and nicely, some others can make mistakes and be slow. Now consider that in a F1 track that has 20 different curves and compare it to turnleft where you have 4 curves and all are exactly the same, drivers are less likely to make mistakes

casual watcher here...

wtf Alonso qualified 5th?

dear god if he wins the fucking thing that'll be some shit

talk about making waves in both indycar and f1. especially in indycar. how do you cope with an outsider waltzing in and winning your biggest event? that would surely sting. and in f1, it would be perfectly clear that he only smells like shit cause he drives in a car made of shit.

Alonso to drive '77 McLaren in retro pre-500 event

>>76106604
it wouldn't sting, shitposting would be a minor annoyance but it would be impressive tbqh

>>76106604
How would it sting? It would be far from the first time anything like that would happen and most Indycar fans seem to want him to do well, so I'm not really sure who would be "stung" other than autists who put too much stock into what flag they have on this forum.

>>76104515
>And how the hell is that steel beam of a tail light going to fly saftey-wise?

it is the same on the current car and there are no issues.

>>76106604
>Clark
>Hill
>Fittipaldi
>Mansell
happened many times befor m8

>>76106528
>Not completely true though.

Yea, it's completely true.

>Now consider that in a F1 track that has 20 different curves

Which means the disparity between cars is going to be magnified simply due to the fact that the car with more horsepower, torque, and better braking will be able to outclass every other car 20 times per lap.

>turnleft where you have 4 curves and all are exactly the same, drivers are less likely to make mistakes

That's not true at all, simply due to the fact that they're always taking those turns at max speed and at the limit of traction, while driving an aerodynamic brick....in traffic. Turnleft drivers use the draft to get their competitors loose during the curves in order to make a pass, sending them up the track. They can't do that in F1.

Turnleft can't exploit acceleration and braking advantages the way F1 can, due to the fact that the draft serves as somewhat of an equalizer. In oval racing 2, or more slower cars working together in the draft are faster than any faster car working alone, or caught outside the draft. The way the drivers use the draft to gain, and hold, positions, is what makes oval racing so fun to watch, as it's all about driver vs. driver as opposed to the driver vs. the track of F1.

Regardless, the best teams in Indy, and turnleft, can't dominate the field the way the top teams in F1 can, which makes for actual racing.

>>76106604
>that would surely sting

That would be bad ass, and would clearly demonstrate how shit F1 parity among teams is, since there the dude can't even get points.

I want to see another dude win the triple crown, so that means either JPM has to get off his fat ass and get on a Le Mans team, or Lonzo has to win and then do Lemans.

>>76106771
>>76106862

I was thinking in terms of the inner circle of indycar, the pride of the drivers and teams. maybe sting isn't the right word. what I do know is that if I were a driver or a pro in any other sport for that matter, I wouldn't view alonso the same as a fellow driver. by that i mean losing to other drivers always sucks, but losing to a driver from an outside series really fucking sucks.

>>76107112
Indycar pulled out all stops to get him here once it became an "idea" from the Mclaren side. If they didn't want him to be come they could have simply said "sorry, we only have a limited engine supply". If they didn't want him to be competitive they wouldn't have convinced Stefan Wilson to leave his Andretti seat with a Honda engine.

For the drivers, I have to assume they desire this challenge, to compete against one of the best in the world. Losing to a 2xWDC wouldn't hurt any worse than losing to a rookie or anyone else for that matter.

>>76107228
I can understand that. I'm definitely certain his participation is a great thing for Indycar. It definitely has people talking.

In a way I was reminded of how Brock Lesnar came to UFC straight from pro wrestling, won the belt and was wreckin dudes, making them look like jokes. I know its a completely different situation, but in a way it made the UFC look like it lacked talent depth, yet at the same time it was a massive shot in the arm for them.

>>76098534
What a great moment - Senna driving Emmo's CART Penske.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiYO2oTdRaA

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>>76106222
>I don't see how F1 "champions" can live with themselves
Money and fame numbs a lot of pain.

>>76106372
I'm sure we will post a stream of the race on raceday for everyone to watch

>>76107472
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul6UcvNX4o8
>Indycar vs F1

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>>76107519
I never really thought of Milhouse's dad as "F1" but it works.

>>76107472
That's true.

But no amount of money can fill the hole in their souls knowing that their legacy is tainted because they were forced to drive a shitbox, or a car that didn't have any competition.

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rossipossi

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BROSEF BREWGARDEN

I call the kitten "Chip".

>>76105008
2%er here, in order....makes for a fun day to watch them all live

>>76109117
I agree, I just can't wrap my head around there being so many people who don't catch the 500 and then watch Nascar and vice versa.

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So what do we think lads?

>>76110770
Dan Wheldon/10

>>76110770
definitely a step in the right direction

>>76105008
>And only 2% watch all three (Indy/Coke/Monaco).
I'm not waking up early for memes on Memorial Day weekend. Highlights exist for a reason and even a 2 minute clip is usually too much time to fill for an F1 race.

>>76111372
>an F1 race.

>>Race to turn 1 commences.
>>Maybe a crash takes some cars out.
>>Form in a line.
>>Backmarkers make a couple of passes scrounging for the odd point.
>>Leaders pit and either gain or lose track position because of it.
>>Race ends uncontested
>>Merc or Ferrari celebrate another "great" victory
>>On to the next "race"

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>>76111776
>1776

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>>76111869
>69

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>>76112167
>67

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>>76114130
>30
Is this the fastest pizza livery mobile on earth?

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>>76114524
>24

Is the Indy lights stuff today not being broadcast on the yt channel?

>>76114692
There's track activity today?
It might not be.

>>76114831
yeah but it appears to be raining anyway. Indy lights practice and quali for tomorrows freedom 100

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Robin Miller educating us on "Foyt-isms"
AJ calls Zach Veach a 14 year old, Calls his Lola Cosworth a tub of shit over the PA to 100,000 people, and many more hilarious shenanigans.
AJ Foyt has a very particular way of speaking, he's an honest man who has never held anything back, but he has never had to either. AJ has the winningest career in all of racing(to my knowledge).
Part 1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgIMJlU3LFE
Part 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_EQEnK0kmY

Carb day coverage starts tomorrow at 11 AM on NBCSN

>>76107612
Homer is F1, Frank Grimes is Indycar

>>76115526
Nice
Robin Miller videos are comfy
The tour of the museum yesterday was a good watch

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Forecast isn't looking good for this weekend, come on big guy upstairs I know you wanna see a good race

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>>76117533
>yfw Lazier shuffles to the front on lap 101 and the downpour starts

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I think we'll be OK

>>76118088
god willing, the dubs bode well for us

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Why are Americans so gay?

>>76119056
we just like nuts okay

got a strong gut feeling it's gonna be Dixie or RHR drinking the milk this year

Indy lights quali expected to start in an hour or two

>>76119327
how fast do those little shit wagons scoot around IMS?

>>76119368
I believe the pole from last year was ~188 mph

>>76117533
just get the vintage cars running early to create a vortex

>>76119368
Basically 200mph flat.

>>76119403
How many beers per hour is that?

>>76098690

Sage Karam was a talented wrestler in Highschool and his father was a noted collegiate wrestler.
.

>>76119270
Boring

>>76119594
and now he wrestles every night before bed with the knowledge that he killed a man

Isn't this just NASCAR but with open wheel cars?

>>76119640
no

>>76119627

He's gone on record about how it (The 2015 accident that took Justin Wilson's life) fucked him up pretty badly, but wants to put it behind him with a win and a full-time Indycar ride.

He's also going off at 66-1 per Las Vegas odds, so who knows?

>>76119640

Hell no. The only gimmicks Indycar has are two races scoring double-points, one of them being this weekend's Indy 500. Other than that, it's pretty "Pure" racing.

>>76119640
no, it is more like cycling but with engines and 4 wheels

>>76119689
*and closing the pits under caution to assfuck the leaders and shuffle the order

>>76119782

I'll take that over breaking the race up into fourths just to sneak in more commercials and fuck over the leader, not to mention a way to use handegg normie sports lingo.

>>76119816
I didn't say anything about NASCAR.
I just want it to matter where a driver starts and have the results of the race be an aggregate of how well the driver did during it.
By closing the pits it allows weak driver to be up front based entirely on luck of when the cautions come out and when everyone pitted.

If Indycar opened the pits under caution and installed a speed limiter for safety, then there would be none of this "LOLRANDOM" factor during the races that shuffles the order and can assfuck drivers who were up front and dominating all day.

LUCK SHOULD NOT PLAY A FACTOR IN A RACE WHEN THERE ARE ALTERNATIVE TRIED AND TRUE OPTIONS.

>>76120026
>Fuel/tire strategy is luck
Lel

>>76120287
You can't strategize for cautions.
That has nothing to do with fuel and tire strategy, in fact it completely throws both of those things out the fucking window.

>>76120301
Are you retarded? Rossi won the 500 because his strategy was to race for green until the end, Kimball lost because his strategy was to race for a yellow and it never came. It just adds another layer to strategy

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Indycar will be testing at Road America June 14th, a little over a week ahead of the race a scheduled for June 25th.
For those who need an example of this massive, beautiful track and facility. Indycar raced there last year to much fanfare.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVyKkIDslB4
Lots of elevation changes and a real classic course.
2018 may see the cars even faster around the track thanks to the decreased drag. Road America favours a low drag, high HP setup.

>>76120430
You're fucking retarded, Rossi's strategy was based on luck, were it not for cautions he would have never made that fuel number and would have needed up 20th or worse.
The problem isn't as bad on ovals, especially Indy, but it is immediately apparent on Road/Street Courses.
There's no reason Bourdais, who started dead last and passed almost no one, should have been gifted the lead in St. Petersburg. It had nothing to do with strategy and everything to do with luck since pits aren't opened under yellow.
Read and educate yourself:
http://www.indycar.com/News/2017/03/03-13-Rear-View-Mirror-Yellow-Flag

keeping the pits open these days wouldn't change the outcome very much since the top 15 are usually running nose to tail all race anyway and would enter the pits at the same time

>>76120493
>won't change the outcome that much
>except for the position lottery when a caution comes out where leaders are now in 14th position and guys who were 17th inherit the lead

>>76120507
I assume you mean when a leader pits under green but then a yellow comes out when he is in the pits? The position swap would still occur if you left the pits open and everyone ran a standard yellow speed like the old days. Look on youtube for past 500s and it happened. Keeping the pits open won't change the physical fact that you would lose more time in the pits under green while the others pit under yellow. The only difference is that they weren't stuck behind the pace car.

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CUTE!

>>76120540
Actually closed pits benefits those who have already pitted under green, it's how Bourdais leap frogged everyone except Simon Pagenaud because they pitted earlier under green.
When guys are doing very well on fuel and leading, they want to run as many laps as possible, but if a yellow comes out during the end of their stint they will be forced to pit, this allows everyone who already pitted under green to casually go around them.

Again, it's a much bigger problem on road and street courses.

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So Sebastian Bourdais crash recorded a force of 113G's.
That's an unbelievable amount of force to survive. The car mitigated enough of that force that he survived with no permanent damage, a fractured pelvis, and a broken right hip.
Is there any other vehicle in any series that could mitigate that kind of force?
The SAFER barrier is obviously a large factor too.
Despite everything, stock cars tend to shred themselves, they release a lot of energy, but anytime I see a big crash there I worry for their safety. Those cars have a lot less carbon and other materials that Indycars are made of.
F1 cars use the same materials, but less of it. It's rare for those cars to see a big impact like we see here.

>>76121426
>The car mitigated enough of that force
The car and the steel and foam energy reduction barrier combined actually dissipated that amount of kinetic energy allowing him to survive

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Very first shopped livery I've seen put to the 2018 road course aero.
>>76121479
Literally the very next sentence that's acknowledged. I would maintain that 10 years ago, that likely would have been a different outcome in the IR07.

There is two girls in the race, yeah?
Pippa and the lesbian(Gabby)?

>>76121572
Gabby is technically a man, but if he lost some weight and grew his hair out long he'd make an incredible trap.

Fapping to traps is still gay.

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>>76120642
What's Vin Diesel doing interviewing Fred?

Since Bestwick and Punch got laid off, who's going to do commentary for this race next year?

I know that ABC/ESPN is getting the fuck out of IndyCar when their deal is up, but who in the world are they going to find to call this race for however long they still have it?

>>76121563
I'm interested in the exact numbers
How much energy was transferred to the wall itself and how much energy was dissipated by the car
Probably an unanswerable question, though analysis of the wall's motion on impact might give an estimate
I'm no engineer though

>>76121638
Jemele Hill

>>76121638
Maybe they'll allow NBCSN or Indycar Radio's broadcasters to to call it

Alternative, but very unlikely angle. ABC still wants the 500 and is going to hire competent broadcasters for the contract year in an effort to keep the 500 on their channel.(I don't condone stupid speculation like this, it is still a sin, but I partake in it)

On other option is that ABC broadcasts the race... with no one in the booth.

>>76121648
I'm not even close to smart enough.
There's probably variables that someone who could answer that would need to know that we don't have.
The SAFER barrier foam is changed to different stiffness levels based on what series is racing there.

>>76121638
Stephen A Smith

>tfw will forget about the Indy Lights race tomorrow and there's nothing I can do about it

>>76121784
How many Entrants is the Lights series up to these days?

>>76121798
Gotta check. It's been over a dozen this year, but it probably spikes for this race.

>>76121798
>>76121900
Just 14 actually

>>76121920
Better than before Anderson picked it up.
The feeder series are all run by the same guy now I believe.

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>>76114524
237.498

>>76121638
Punch and Bestwick will still call the race, it will be their last with ESPN.

>>76121638
As I understand it, they aren't so much laid off as their contracts aren't being renewed, so they will still be there in '18

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*bumps thread*

>>76121572
Gabby is more of a man than you will ever be.
in fact, so is Pippa.

>>76123200
>>76121572
THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF CANADIAN """"""MEN"""""""

>>76123169
Nothing more appetizing than a Taco Bell in a black neighborhood
I'm hungry now

So some of you may have noticed a general trend, but Robin Miller and Marshall Pruett tend to be the go-to for Indycar news.
They figured out Alonso was coming over before news was even allowed to be made public, but out of respect for Indycar they did not let it become public, they have a good standing.

Anyways, the two guys have recently done weekly reviews of Indycar news.
This week they'll talk about the performance potential of the 2018 kit(Marshall was an engineer) amongst other things.
Worth a listen.
http://www.racer.com/indycar/item/140861-podcast-the-week-in-indycar-news-may-25-indy-500-preview

>>76124646
yeah i've been listening to this all season, good stuff

all the past episodes can be found here, some good interviews in there: https://marshallpruett.podbean.com/

good night bump

>>76124646
thanks m8

>>76126450
another Good Night bump...

Sweet dreams before Carb day anons.

>>76124646
Anyone who has anything negative to say about Robin Miller will soon be shot dead in the streets

>>76123281
I went to that one by mistake once. I got looks and regretted it instantly. Got out fast.

>>76120456
Why is indy road races so comfy? Where can you watch old F1 races

>>76130773
I bet you threw away your chalupas without eating them once you got home as well.

>>76119640
Its like f1 except.

F1 cars produce 700hp + 150 from the electic recovery thing. Indy produces 780ish.

Indy cars have aero kits for ovals and road races where F1 has only road races. On the oval kits they can get a top speed over 230 mph where F1 probably gets 200ish.

F1 cars have way way better breaks and mildly better accleration.

According to Honda the indy car testing they did would be middle of the pack in an F1 race but never competitive.

Indycars have no power steering but does have roll bars and weight adjustments. F1 has every assisst in the book.

indy raicng is cheap roughly 1 million a car where F1 can cost 10 milllion.

Both suffer from the same problems. Its hard to get manufacturers as the tech isn't really easy to translate into a commerical vehicle unlike GT or Formula 1.

Indy is good stuff but very different from nascar. Nascar is just pure muscle and crashing. Indy is F1 with a smaller budget and higher top speed.
Indy has competition where as F1 has a constructor aspect which makes the races....kind of dull.

>>76130835
F1 engines are nearing 1000hp, well above 750. Also they reach 230mph.

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*triggers /indy/ into mass suicide*

*yawn* Ah, good morning Amerifats!

Are we ready to see Fastnando Alonsfast right at the very top of the speed charts again today?

It must be awfully embarrassing to see one of Europe's best come over to America and immediately start destroying the competition on his very first attempt.

Oh yes, didn't I mention? This is Alonsfast's very first race on an oval! The very first one! America's fastest driver, who is starting just one row in front of Alonsfast, a mere 0.3mph faster in qualifying, has been racing at Indianapolis for *pffft* fifteen years!

Don't worry, the Coca Cola 600 will be on later on, and no Europeans want to take part in that, so you'll be guaranteed an American victory on Sunday!

>>76131327
>two-time world champion with the best financed team in the field is faster than Ed Jones

wew lad

>>76132347
not if Daniel Suarez wins the 600

happy carb day lads, final practice session starts in about an hour and a half

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>>76130835
*It was Chevrolet's Aero kit tested at COTA in late 2014.
Those times were being compared to 2014 F1 Qualifying.

The Chevrolet Aero kit as it was originally envisioned would have put it "mid-pack" in F1 qualifying.
It may have looked like the homer mobile, but the thing was quick and producing 8000+lbs of downforce which was absolutely insane.

Naturally we have to put things in perspective, the Indycar that year was carrying more speed through the corners, but the F1 cars had a weight and power advantage allowing them to accelerate and brake faster.
As of 2017 F1 regs they are undoubtedly carrying as much or more speed than the original Chevy aero kit thanks to huge tires and more DF(than F1 2014).

Carb day is upon us!
Big crowd down on Gasoline Alley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrg1NWUW7Jo

10 MINUTES!

What channel is the practice broadcast on?

>>76135388
NBCSN, were live now

>>76135388
>>76135436
All of the carb day coverage is on NBCSN, including freedom 100 and pitstop competition

good crowd today

green green green

STREAM:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHhho1ii8As

>Alonso P1

btfo

MONTOYA
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T
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A

Sage Karam is 100% gonna fuck up on race day

Townsend btfo absolutely karam

ROSSI
O
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S
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>>76135851
who /rossiposse/ here

Newgarden needs to get his shit together.

>>76135898
same for page

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Will Marco ever win another race?

Sebastien Bourdais on the phone

Hinch's car ded

>Hinchcliffe is kill

>>76136010
tell him hi from me

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>Honda

I don't remember being this excited/interested in the Indy 500 in years

29 laps on that motor
Honda is shitting themselves right now

>7 Honda engines died just at Indy this year before the race
Fernando is fucked

>>76136051
welcome to adulthood

>just paid $300 for a fake steering wheel to play a video game that I pay $10 a month to pay, in which i've purchased $70 worth of virtual cars and tracks

I've lost control of my life guys

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A Honda exploded...

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>>76136081

..then a Chevy exploded :^)

>>76136078
why is the steering wheel market so shit these days?
The shitty wheel I purchased 3 years ago has doubled and even tripled in price on ebay since then

>>76136090
lel

>suboptimal rapid negative acceleration

HONDA
O
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D
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green green green

nice job leaving the track filthy guys

That's it for the day boys
Park 'em

>tfw Alonso didn't put it in the wall on carb day and miss the race

Best timeline BTFO

>>76136220
Indy Lights Freedom 100 starting in 30 bings, then we've got the pit stop competition

>>76136245
Best timeline is that he goes out in the race with the world watching mate

>>76136270
>Best timeline is that he does a Gordon Smiley during the race with the world watching mate

FTFY

>muh MURICA

WTF, did they just forget to remind everyone to """""support the troops"""""?

>>76136333
Just wait until preface boy your ass will be bleeding from all the freedom

>>76136353
>he doesn't support the troops
plebe

>>76100327
>>76100352

New bodykit would look so much better if they trimmed down the lawn dart nose, and made the RWEPs smaller so it actually looks like a center mount.

>shilling 'marzda' because there's a 'defined path' to the top tier 'unlike in europe'

>what is f4 -> f3 -> gp3 (rebrand pending) -> f2 -> f1

So that's why Lewlew hangs out with Serena Williams

she's an ambassador for a comfy sex bed company

>reminder that Serena is engaged/married to the co-founder of reddit and announced their engagement on reddit, meaning by extension Lewis is a redditor

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>>76136395

desu m8, the path to F1 is:

>have rich daddy -> F1
pic related

>>76136395
It's not even that defined though, currently there aren't enough teams in Indy so there aren't enough seats for those coming up outside of the 500

>missing the command
How do you fuck that up

>these drivers

Formula Chad, amirite?

wew

Ahahahahhahaha herta blown the fuck out

>collects his teammate on lap 1

topkeke

>>76136509
name 1 racing driver that isn't a chad

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>>76136536

So much for Herta's championship lel

>>76136556
Fucking hell, I was rooting for him too.

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>>76136541

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>>76136541

>>76136602
>delanabuttgrab.webm
He's got the Chad mindset.

>>76136602
Tony is alpha as fuck though

>>76136577
Conor Daly, he's like one of us, but good looking(as good as an Irish kid with no neck can) and drives a race car.
Being Chad is a state of mind as well as body.

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>>76136628

Seems pretty chad to me, m8.

>>76136541
Zach Veach

>>76136676
he's like 12 tho

>>76136541

Jimmy Spencer.

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>>76136687

pls, no bully.

I have no sound

Is Telitz an American?

>>76136736

Zutroy Telitz is as American as apple pie.

>>76105068
>NASCAR done went full retard and fucked with the track by laying trackbite down on it

Does it mean racing will be even worse than before?

>>76136768
Who knows. They're throwing all kinds of shit at the wall to see if anything can improve Charlotte.

>>76136712
i'd bully the shit out of this pussy

Leist is gonna give it up on the last lap I can feel it

>>76136778

t. Chad

>>76136768
NASCAR secretly laid track bite down on the low line before the all star race
Some drivers noticed it
You saw what a shit race that was

So then NASCAR decided to lay track bite down on the high line too this week
The surface is a fucked up now

>>76105068
Why is NASCAR trying to force their meme lines on the drivers? Maybe if the tracks were configured well they wouldn't have to do this shit

>>76136795
>Maybe if the tracks were configured well they wouldn't have to do this shit
Well, yeah.

>high chance of thunderstorm for the 500
kill me

>the city of telitz

>Sanjeev will root ya

>>76136817
we're gonna be seeing delays

>>76136659
He talks about >no gf and is hilariously self depreciating.

>>76136846
Hopefully he can get a better ride than foyt sometime

Well that was a letdown.

HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE

>>76136878
Can't have a 4 wide finish every year

What's with BRs and Indy anyway?

>>76136917
Can't afford f1

Pit stop competition now

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>>76136917
gotta

go

fast

Karam into the wall

Are any Hondas risking their engines for the pit competition?

>>76137200
Literally how

/motion/

ALOTION BTFO DIABEETUS

>the absolute state of chips fatassi and his diabeetus boy crew

Is it me or is Will less of a cunt lately

HINCHED

>>76137375
It's just because he's not won enough races yet this year

HINCH
I
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C
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inb4 Rahal complains about something

>>76137462
He got lucky af, was looking really slow

>>76137462
[x] Complains about lane choice

>>76137375
did he start taking new autism pills?

dat RHR spaghetti

is this music going to trigger Dixon's ptsd?

uh oh widdle graham got the wrong lane again

HINCH
I
N
C
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>>76137635
Kek

>>76135797
he will crash out Alonso early in the race and be de facto banned from IndyCar for life for ruining the publicity

he already can't get a full season ride and after this race he won't be able to get a ride for Indy either

>>76135851
POSSE
O
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S
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repeat win comin boys

it's the pit stop competition. why are they interviewing the drivers? Interview the pit crew guys.

>will didn't even realize he was in the finals
Lel

>Am I in the finals?
Willpower takes this pit crew competition very seriously

I hope Helio becomes an IndyCar commentator when he retires from racing

Dario Franchitti would make a good one too, steal him from Formula E!

>>76098889

It must be weird to experience such extreme changes in ones career, then again I guess it was relatively gradual from his point of view.

>>76137879
>I hope Helio becomes an IndyCar commentator when he retires from racing
hopefully not in English

>>76137903
he's not bad a bit of accent yeah but at least he has the vocabulary down

>>76137919
it isn't his accent, he is just super annoying

Penske is cheating they set up that car just for the pit stop competition you should have to use race day suspension settings

>>76137930
not aa annoying as Darrell "Boogity" Waltrip

>>76137966
You think that because right now we only have to hear him in 1 minute interviews. Imagine entire race broadcasts. He is on the same level as DW and Mikey

>Sweet Home Alabama plays in the background

P W L
W
L

>>76137995
>Fresh Prince of Bel-Air theme plays
No songs about Indianapolis

PWL

cheater car wins lol