Eternal Arsenal Thread

reminder that no CL is a good thing. change is needed.

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Wenger OUT

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How low can this club go?

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>>76049089
>reminder that no CL is a good thing

what players do you reckon Arsenal will sign?
so far:
>IN
Kolasinac

>OUT
Alexis
Lucas

>>76049089
That's the problem, there will be no change. He's already said he's going to sign 'one or two players'. Which in itself shows you how deluded he is to the lack of quality in that team.

Wenger IN

No CL is far from a disaster.

The lost revenue is no longer back breaking with the new PL TV deal and it's not like Arsenal would come close to doing anything of note in the tournament.

I'll be happy, as long as Wenger is gone and the club tries to actually improve during the summer.

>>76049089
There will be no change.

What happens when >we lose to Chelsea for the FA cup and wenger still stays?

>>76049099
lose to liverpool in the europa league quarter

>>76049126
You'll just have to wait a couple more days to find out.

>>76049121
But he won't be gone. He'll never leave. Ever

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgVQem2uyfI
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>>76049099
i'd predict that >we'll still win the league for the 4th time before liverpool even win their first. honestly, i think wenger knows his job is actually on the line now for the first time since he joined 20 years ago and that the fans are also out for his neck. he'll do something big.

>>76049191
Fuck off Ty

>>76049121
For a club like Arsenal it's a far bigger blow than it is for a Liverpool or a United who can attract big names based on club prestige alone.

Arsenal NEED that Champions League spot as a means of attracting top players. They certainly won't be queueing up to play for some team with 0 CL wins in their history.

S

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>>76049160
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCGykYiKevs

>>76049214
>this delusion

united maybe, as they're the 2nd biggest club in the world but liverpool have been irrelevant for a good 15 years now. i actually can't remember the last time a big name on the scale of a pogba, ozil, sanchez etc joined them. ac milan has more CL's than liverpool and they're just as irrelevant and nobody wants to play for them despite them winning the league just a few years back, something liverpool are still yet to achieve.

>>76048626

>ARSE

>>76049191
>win the league for the 4th time
>Sky invented football

>>76049254
Maybe because he would have been murdered.

>>76049285
new thread

>>76049271
You're gonna lose to Ajax, famalam.

>>76049160
BASED HUDSON

>>76049254
>nigger posting white girls as if he has a chance
lol

>>76049142
;_;

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S

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When will she step in?

>>76049342
>Not wanting to see Cara creampied by a big black lad
Bad taste.

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Wenger OUT
Bercow IN

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4kLB_Y3-0o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ny6OFI3tSo

>>76049427
>jewcoon
>big black lad

he's a skinny white boy from hertfordshire

>>76049160
Chris video is top top quality.

>>76049558
As always.

>>76049558
he's /arse/ to a T

>>76049523
>ramsey shows up last match
why didn't he show up before

>>76049546
>he's a skinny white boy from hertfordshire

is he me?

>>76049160
Troopz is right.

No point protesting Wenger, he's staying for 2 years regardless. Time for banners about the ownership.

>>76049600
are u from Tring?

>Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger believes playing in a "hostile environment" in the second half of the season contributed to his side's failure to secure a Champions League place for the first time in 20 years.

:^)

>>76049214
>who can attract big names based on club prestige alone
>We never attracted big names in the first place
14 year old French wingers are still gonna sign for Arsenal, CL or no

>>76049623
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Guys

What players will leave us now that there will be no le out in the last 16 cup next year?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5OrAt2gyZ4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn8r8UwN0-I

>>76049659
only sanchez

the rest are all shit and on massive wages, nobody will sign them

>>76049271
> United
>2nd biggest club in the world

based on what? revenue? "fans"?

they are nothing compared to Barcelona and Madrid

>>76049672
>Sanogo has taken over £5m from the club

Every time.

>>76049758
There are probably people in this thread better than him.

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>>76049670
>Lee

>>76049659
Koscielny to Inter
Bellerín to Barcelona
Sánchez to Bayern

>>76049781
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

>>76049800
kosc will stay, remember when he rejected bayern munich

and why would barca want bellerin after this season

OH MY GOD STOP!

WENGER IS NOT GOING TO LEAVE FOR PLAYING THE EL

STOP BEING SO FUCKING DELUSIONAL!

>>76049859
Because they need a right fullback as soon as possible, and Bellerín is a masía product, they want him back

>>76049859
>kosc will stay, remember when he rejected bayern munich

Getting sent off against them in every game is not the same as rejecting a transfer there.

>>76049859
he also rejected real madrid when they were under benitez.

Wenger logic

Liverpool reached EL final after finishing 6th
Chelsea reached EL final
Man United reached EL final

Therefore Wenger thinks we will manage it and get CL football again

Except we'll get btfo because there will be decent teams in it next year
Not CL rejects like Ajax

>>76049859

Because they have

Digne which is utter shit
Douglas that is a 3rd division tier player
Sergi Roberto that is a MF has been exposed the entire season as RB

Bellerin is better than all of them and still young to learn how to play

>>76049899
he's been shit though. fucking kyle walker looks better than him now

Arsenal will get worse when Wenger leaves

>>76050006
Only because he would have destroyed it so utterly that the next manager has no hope of fixing it.

>>76050006
that's something the club has to face, Wenger won't and shouldn't be in charge forever

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>>76050006
That's what I'm hoping for, I want to see who the fans will direct their anger at. The grass?

>>76050029
He will and he should

>>76049945
>Therefore Wenger thinks we will manage it and get CL football again

Source? Wenger has always said EL is a joke competition. He'll do what he does in the League Cup, reserve team all the way to semis.

>>76050026
>destroyed it

c'mon. he's made arsenal the 5th most valuable club in the world

>>76050074
>Wenger has always said EL is a joke competition.
No he hasn't, and it doesn't even sound like something he would say.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/mar/18/arsene-wenger-arsenal-europa-league
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/12012967/Arsenal-manager-Arsene-Wenger-talks-up-Europa-League-ahead-of-Zagrebs-visit-as-Champions-League-exit-looms.html
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11670/10076936/arsene-wenger-insists-arsenal-will-aim-for-a-europa-league-run-if-they-drop-into-the-competition

>only britflags, brit in hongkong, alexis and sweden left in /arse/
only true fans

>>76050220
Dropping into it isn't the same as playing from the start. There is zero chance of him aiming to win it going into the season, PL has and always will be his focus.

>>76050270
When did he ever say it was a 'joke competition', sorry?

>>76050328

He never did afaik

You get to choose Wenger Out or Kroenke Out this summer. Which do you go for?

And no sneaky tactics, you have to pick one or the other.

>>76050417
Kroenke Out

>>76050417
Kroenke out, any clowns that think things will change with a different manager need to give up on life


Anyway next week 1 at the back formation yes or no?

>>76050417
Kroenke

If Wenger is good at anything it's managing without support from the board. Most other managers under Stan would be a disaster

>>76050417
100% Wenger. No question.

>Wenger will start Gibbs in the FA Cup final
Arsenal will get humiliated on Sunday.

>>76050828
>Wenger has a choice on who he starts with the entire defence injured or suspended

>>76049118
Ozil will sign.

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> "It's important to keep this group of players, believe me, because they learned from what happened this season and be very strong next season"

should I even bother watching the FA Cup next weekend? that back line is going to be murdered due to Mertesacker's slowness

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>>76050856

>>76049160
Chris is the goat

Apparently Mustafi should be fit so Wenger will most likely go with Holding, Mustafi and Monreal at the back with Bellerin/Ox and Gibbs as wing-backs.

>>76050856
>It's important to keep this group of players

Christ. How can he say that after the worst season since 96.

>>76049214
>Alexis is only at Arsenal because Nottingham Forest aren't looking for anyone right now, thanks

I think I just got MICKED

Kos got fucking cheated by that ref, why are they so obsessed with screwing us over?

>>76050417
If you can only get rid of one this summer, Kroenke out is the only sensible answer. If Kroenke was a decent owner he would have not offered Wenger a contract extension. If we get rid of Wenger then Kroenke will be just as lenient with the new manager and nothing will change. If we get a new owner, then they'll at least get rid of Wenger next summer if he underachieves again.

>>76050922
He basically means "it's important to keep Sanchez" but he doesn't want to openly shit on rest of the team.

>>76049523
damn man, you're making me wanna fap to cara

>>76051001

Then he just shouldn't say anything. Praising players who've clearly failed him is plain idiotic, it's like he purposely wants to wind up the fans.

>>76051092
you might be gay

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>>76051092
Nothing stopping you

Arsenal spent about 80 million pounds on transfers this year. Blame Wenger not Kroenke

>>76051173
>spent more for xhaka than chelsea did for kante

genius

>>76051136
she doesn't have many flattering pics like that one

wenger out

>>76051378
both overrated meme men

>>76051173
Wenger doesn't sign players Dick Law does

>>76051911
Dick Law is essentially a broker, has nothing to do with selecting transfer targets.

>>76049670
>>76049523
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>>76049091
Who's the pretty lad in those pictures?

Well atleast Barca are getting cucked hard.

>>76052020
Exactly and he didn't identify bad players. Dick law didn't sign good players we could have had and over paid for good players we did get

>>76052210
I didn't say he was any good at his job either, but the blame still lies more on Wenger. He has final say on all transfers and fees. Approving £35m for Xhaka is laughable.

>>76052115
>Messi fucking up the pen
They are proper Arse-ing this up.

>>76050417
Kroenke Out.

>>76050918
Any possibility the red card gets rescinded? Let's be honest it 100% wasn't a red

Genuinely think Ozil and Sanchez both stay next season and we just let them go for free in the summer.

>>76053087
I wouldn't sell Sanchez for any money. I can see him sulking but still smashing in goals because he's too competitive to sit in the stands.

I'd sell Ozil if an offer came in but I doubt it will unless China is interested

>>76053087
same man who sold prime rvp to a direct rival

>>76053163
Rumours say that Fenerbache is interested in Ozil and willing to pay a big transfer fee, although they'll also be in the Europa League next season so it's not exactly an upgrade for him.

>>76053087
sanchez is definitely going. no way kroenke is letting him stay when he'd go for £50m+

who gives a shit about ozil tbqh, i reckon he'll stay just because he has no ambition

Assuming we stick with three at the back, who would you rather play in the final: Gibbs or Mertesacker?

>>76053671
Gibbs

Mertesacker should never play for Arsenal again

>>76053416
50 mil with only a year on his deal? We'd be lucky, doubt he goes for more than 30

>>76050417

Kroenke no question. Wenger at absolute unthinkable worst has about 5 years left. Kroenke is terminal.

Congratulations on your win today.

>>76053911

Congratulations on having the highest points total AND goal difference without winning the league. Really something that will be cherished by fans for a long time :)

>>76053968
Probably will actually, cheers.

>>76054027

That's great. I hope there's a commemorative DVD you can buy so you can tell your kids and grandkids about the time Spurs finished second in the league and got to the semi final of the fa cup. It's really a wonderful achievement for a club like Spurs.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BUXgIt8jeBP/?taken-by=alexis_officia1&hl=en

>>76054222
So, once we do win the league what will your go to be then?

>>76053911
Congratulations on your boy Harry earning himself a transfer to Madrid in the summer, you must be so proud!

>>76054332
Should have gone for a more realistic player.

>>76050847
Holding, Mertesacker, Monreal and possibly Mustafi are available, and Debuchy is an option if we're desperate

it's a good thing we've reverted to 3 at the back, one less defender to worry about

I think it'll be

Cech
holding mustafi monreal
Bellerin Rams Xhaka Gibbs
Ozil . Alexis
Welbeck

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>>76054324

Hmmm when will that be then? Next season with the fantastic form you have at Wembley?

>>76050956
it was a red, however, the ref completely enraged me by only giving yellows to Everton players who hadn't already been carded. Schneiderlin and another play tripped arsenal players and didn't get second yellows, but Baines does the exact same thing and got his first yellow. No consistency whatsoever. Should have finished 10 vs 9

>>76054324
>once we do win the league
Not happening. Chelsea, City, United and possibly even Liverpool will only get stronger next season while Spurs will only get worse. You'll become the new Arsenal of 2007-2012 when you move to your new stadium.

>>76054222
>>76053968
FUMING

>>76054450
Yeah, maybe.

>>76054491
>Chelsea, City, United and possibly even Liverpool
That all mate? No-one else in there?

Claude looks like he's about to jump off the top of the Emirates

>>76054587

Genuinely impressed by Spurs this season and happy the fans seem to be so chuffed with finishing second. Best team over the past 2 seasons, can't argue with that! Looks great in the trophy cabinet, do they get a plaque or something?

>>76054391
I still don't trust Gibbs desu. He got tore apart in both Bayern Munich games. He got torn apart in the Tottenham game. He was shit against Sunderland. I'd be tempted to keep Monreal at LWB and put Mertesacker in the back three.

Is winning the Europa league better than getting knocked out in the ro16 of the Champions league?

>>76054773
>per
>against chelsea

>>76054865
yes, it's about as prestigious as the FA cup if you need a comparison

Can't wait for Costa to kick the shit out of everyone all game whilst we lose a defender for brushing someone.

>>76054865
A thousand times better since the AKB's on here think so highly of the FA cup because we've been winning it.

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>Used to compete for titles against the GOAT Fergie and his squad
>Now irrelevant shitters stuck measuring dicks with little spuds and the epic rivarly of Stoke away
We used to rule the world...

>>76054324
>spurs
>winning the league

this is something that is hard coded into history to never happen

>>76055412
Yeah you all said that about finishing above you

https://twitter.com/FromTStands/status/866389729666887680

>>76055239
>tfw you could have posted this 10 years ago

>>76055453
I fully endorse Bellerin bullying.

>>76055453
Based

>>76055448
no i didn't.

>>76055533
All your dickhead friends did

>>76055239
a world where clubs weren't spending quarter of a billion every season

>>76055547
If Spurs didn't lose 5-1 to a relegated 10-man Newcastle last season then maybe people wouldn't be saying that.

And this is what they're like after not winning anything..

>>76049271
>i actually can't remember the last time a big name on the scale of a pogba, ozil, sanchez etc joined them
>MUH NAMEZ

Mane.

>>76055582
Or finish 5th with the best player in the league. Spurs have bottled it in tremendous fashion over the years.

>>76055582
We fell apart at the end of last season because of the emotion surrounding losing out in a title fight.

Can you remember what that feels like?

>>76055687
I actually remember what winning titles feels like. Unfortunately you'll never be able to say the same.

>>76055711
I don't believe that and neither do you.

>>76055734
18+

>>76055711
>I actually remember what winning titles feels like
must ;_;

>>76055547
no they didn't.

>>76055711
>I actually remember what winning titles feels like.
H-Haha same lad...s-same..

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>>76049271
>i actually can't remember the last time a big name on the scale of a pogba, ozil, sanchez etc joined them
>wasting hundreds of millions on meme players is a sign of a top club

>>76056311
How much did you pay for Balotelli again?

>>76056311
>i actually can't remember the last time a big name on the scale of a pogba, ozil, sanchez etc joined them

If you mean proven names then yeah, but once a decade they will sign a player who turns out to be genuinely world class (Torres, Suarez).

>>76056754
Torres was clearly world class when they bought him. And fuck knows how Suarez slipped through the net.

so, who are the 1-2 "top quality" players Wenger will buy this summer?

Who you lads got for goal of the season? I voted for Andy Carroll desu

>>76057021

Wilshere and Santi are like new signings la

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My prediction is that Wenger signs on and they try to appease fans by giving Pires/whoever a ceremonial sporting director kind of job. An empty gesture basically.

The worst part is this empty gesture WILL work on you pathetic 'former' AKB's and split up the fanbase signifcantly again. So a kill yourself to all you naive faggots in advance.

>>76057760
>ceremonial
A few players already have those sorts of nothingy roles. They call it club ambassador and all clubs have them.

Sporting director is an actual role that won't be filled by a former player.

>>76057760
Pires is a coach at Arsenal you div.

>wenger says he will sign 1 or 2 players
>kolasinac already confirmed
prepare for a long summer

>real not selling
>barcelona not seliing
>bayern rebuilding
worried

>>76058007
apart from a striker the squad is decent. much better than previous seasons where we've lacked quality and depth in all positions and signed nobody

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Arsenal? More like ARSEnal haha

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YES

>>76058209
My boy

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>>76058209

>>76057842
>They call it club ambassador
That's why I said a ceremonial sporting director you mong. Wonga clearly doesn't want one while the fans do, nothing easier than putting a club fav there as nothing but a face while everything stays normal.
>>76057867
And he's doing fuck all, he'll take any nothing role the club wants him to do.

Bellerin should play LWB

>>76058209
Gonna get banned for the final now

nice one

>Wrighty going back full AKB on MOTD

ffs

>>76058293
A ceremonial sporting director means NOTHING, it's like saying a ceremonial teacher or a ceremonial banker. It doesn't MEAN anything.
A role you've made up in your own fucking head is worthy of no discussion, neck yourself.

>>76050417
Wenger out but this convinces me>>76050976

>>76058293
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>>76058353
>>76058356
>>76058359
>>76058365
AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

wenger already said he doesnt under a sporting director and will have none of it

>>76058359

yeah but it's like.. ceremonial.. you don't get it man..

>>76058567
Could always get Senderos in as a ceremonial accountant or something.

>>76058359
Mate just google the word
>(of a post or role) involving only nominal authority or power.

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Who /Champions League/ here???

>>76049764
That would be fucking amazing.

>>76051755
who are they?

https://twitter.com/gunnerblog/status/866341099677339648

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Now that he is definitely going to another team, how would you define his performance playing in arsenal all this time in less than 3 words?

>>76058627

that's the point though
a ceremonial sporting director doesn't make sense because it's a real role, like a ceremonial agent makes no sense
ceremonial roles in football are ambassadors and the like

>>76058815
Greedy, driven, workhorse.

>>76058876
pretty much this

don't blame him one bit for wanting to leave, must be killing him to carry a team full of lazy ponces every week

>>76058876
>>76059042
both of these

>>76058801
Interesting take. I wonder if the board situation is leaking into this at all.

>>76058851
He meant Pires won't have anything to do and just fill that position to appease fans and reduce complaints. Wenger would always be in charge of everything. Pires will be a mascot, his work would be smiling and put in nice words in interview to fans.

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>>76058209

>>76059081
Wenger outs aren't that naive, everybody knows full well Wenger doesn't answer to anyone

>>76058815
PL MVP

>>76058815
>Now that he is definitely going to another team
no he wont. He's staying another year. He's gonna get injured for 6+ months and no big club will want him anymore.

butland IN

>Wenger says uncertainty over his future contributed to Arsenal missing out on the top four

I'm convinced this man has dementia. As far as he's concerned him telling us he'd let us know in March or April didn't even happen.

>>76059824
https://twitter.com/bbcsport_david/status/866406387303272450

>>76059824
If that's the case then your players clearly aren't mentally tough enough and shouldn't be at the club. Fucking idiot.

>>76059824
I don't think he cares about the club at all, he only cares about himself and obsessed at glory for his own.

>>76059949
Didn't expect this from Ornstein. Shame no one ever directly asks Wenger about his lies.

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David OrnsteinVerified account @bbcsport_david
#AFC injuries mount pre-Wembley - understand Mustafi a doubt with suspected concussion. Koscielny suspended, Gabriel doubt #CFC #FACupFinal
David OrnsteinVerified account @bbcsport_david
Mustafi blow to head v #SAFC Tue, symptoms emerged later & ongoing. Reportedly ill for #EFC & ok for #FACupFinal but more serious #AFC #CFC

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>>76060139
He's finally Wenger OUT

David is obviously an Arse fan desu

>>76060027
Arsenal is his life, he cares more than anybody.

Which is why he won't fucking leave despite years of players letting him down and abuse from the fans

>>76060269
If he really cared about the club, he should've known that his performances is not up to standard anymore. The least he should do is listening to people around him and employ some technical director or assistants that could provide new perspective to improve the club. And not being stubborn and insisting that no changes should be made to management or his ways of doing things and blames it to 'hostile' environment.

>tfw Sweden won gold and i forgot about arsenals misery

>>76060700
>he should've known that his performances is not up to standard anymore

The problem is Arsenal still play amazing football on a good day, so in Wenger's eyes he's doing a good job. He cares more about performance than results. Also a man who built the invincibles is never going to listen to advice from anyone, which is kinda understandable.

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>>76060854
>The problem is Arsenal still play amazing football on a good day

>>76060854
we haven't played great football since like October
even when we won or drew the performances were shit

>>76060891
Remember the 4-1 v Liverpool a couple of seasons ago? Shows what Arsenal are capable of.

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>>76049121
>>76049089
>reminder that no CL is a good thing
>No CL is far from a disaster.
>mfw

Kek, champions league football was the only thing attracting decent players because God knows they don't join Arsenal to win trophies.

>But look how well Chelsea did this season without Champions League Football

Chelsea have some players that are born winners to drag the team out of a slump and more importantly an owner that won't tolerate mediocrity. Arsenal have non of those things. Well, they do have ONE winner on their team and that's Petr Cech, a Chelsea Legend so that doesn't really count.

>Be Chelsea
>Re-Sign your best ever manager from Real Madrid after not winning the league in 4 years
>He wins you the league as promised
>Next season everything turns to shit as he has a mental breakdown
>Fire him halfway through that season without a second thought
>Win the league next season with a manger who actually remembers how to win

Compare that to Kronke and Wenger and you'll see how no one wants to sign for Arsenal beyond getting a paycheck.

Without Champions League football no top player will sign for Arsenal and they'll never get out of the rut they're in.

>>76061057
what "top players" were we signing anyway?

>they'll never get out of the rut they're in.

arsenal made top 4 with squillaci and djourou in defence, doesn't get any worse than that

Say it with me lads

>arsenal are a mid-table team

>>76060957
>a couple of seasons ago

>>76061341
Same squad.

>>76061057
Arsenal were playing better football when they had Bendtner and Denilson compared to Ozil and Sanchez. Signing top players means nothing.

>>76061246
Arsenal are a Championship team

>>76060854
I dunno lad, I think he really cares about the titles that's why he still being stubborn manager. Also the lack of trophies since moving to new stadium and also got called specialist in failure are things that driven him more for titles. He's just senile stubborn grandpa thinking everyone's else opinion doesn't matter to him.
Well maybe he changed a bit this season by watching Conte to change his formation and that's it, he should consider more options and listen to other's suggestion. He's like authoritarian figure but weak-willed and passive to his players.

>>76060957
>a couple of seasons ago
Holy shit. Consistency means nothing if rival clubs are getting improved and better each year. 5 years later Arsenal might be out from 10th because Arsenal still playing 'beautiful, graceful, elegant' performances but trailing behind new clubs that keep improving its management and their way of thinking to win matches that matters.

>>76061571
Passive management works with the right players. He never told Henry, Vieira, Bergkamp etc. what to do, they were better playing with freedom. Problem being Wenger still has this approach with a squad full of mentally weak, crocked or plain shit players.

>>76061780
Maybe it has something to do with the change of generation. Past generations were alpha and pick themselves up when something goes wrong. They don't rely on manager's initiatives to win. But passive management is harmful when you implement it years after years. The weak and passive environment will change ambitious people to be passive and care less for the club. The worst thing is football is team play, if your teammates are not motivated enough to win you'll be segregated and will feel like a fool trying hard by himself. This happens with Alexis. Notice the differences he put in workrate between his first season and after?

That's why alpha players who are motivated don't want to hang around with this club. RVP, Fabregas, Nasri, even Henry goes to better teams to win more titles because they know Arsenal don't have the mental capability to do so. And who the hell supposed to make the club's environment healthy and full of vigor and ambition to win titles? The manager. Motivates your players, praise them, talk personally to them so they feel good and confident about their performances and eager to do more in training to be better. Players are not robot, they are human. Even the world class player's performance will be affected by his current mentality.

Wenger is the manager, he molds the mentality for years. The players act complacent because they know Wenger won't say or do anything further to address the problem because he is weak, passive and introvert manager that will not inspire his players.

>>76062058
I wouldn't say weak, he's achieved incredible things and is widely respected by managers and players alike.

I agree his management style doesn't work anymore and given his unwillingness to change, he needs to go.

>>76062242
I guess so. Just very passive and let players and staffs manage on their own. He's respected until today because of his seniority in Arsenal, his old age and his invincible history not because of his recent success.

Europa League will make it even harder to make the top four next year. Too many away games at Chernobyl FC will drain the squad and create an injury crisis.

>>76065263
Implying that we wont see JEFF-Akpom and Asano tear it up vs FK Vukujebina

>>76058797
DT and Omar Little

>>76049121
>No CL is far from a disaster.
>the state of Arse Anal customers
And last season wasn't the worse in history because >we finished above Spuds, innit. You fucking dingleberry,

>>76061057
>Arsenal has one winner
Arguably a few of their players had won something, just not _with_ Arsenal.
>Chelsea sacked a legend manager that got them the title in the previous season, because he brought them down in the following season
Nigga, even fucking Lelster did that and >we keep up with "Le Professeur"'s bullshit. Why?

>>76049160
Anyone has Kościelny's webm? I missed that and a straight red makes me ponder.

>>76049623
This fucking frog nigger.

>>76050417
Choosing Kroenke out this summer means Wenger's out next summer, so it's a double win.

>>76055567
Adapt of become obsolete.
BTW is Atletico spending quarter a billion each season? Is Tot'nam?

>>76058007
>>wenger says he will sign 1 or 2 players
>ends up getting Asano back

>>76065263
>injury crisis
About that. Is Gabby P going to make it for the next season?

>>76058451

A week later he changed his tune, probably because they told him it's the only way he gets to sign an extension.

Man's desperate to stay at Arsenal, knows that no other top club will take him after this shambles of a season

>Latest silverware in 2015
>Beat Aston Villa 4-0 in the final
>Wenger out
Honestly you shitheads don't deserve him anymore.

>>76065610

WolfFucking FC?

Please tell me that's an actual team

>>76049048
We got 4 points more than last season and reached fa cup final, not too bad in the cold light of day

>>76065783
All clubs wanting to improve from their current situation.
>Latest treble in 2015
>Latest double in 2016
>None in 2017 yet
Yet Barcelona wanted a change in managerial. Striving for success is typical for top clubs. If Wenger care about the club, he would off himself and the club will offer him position as board or technical director out of respect.

>>76065797
>We got 4 points more than last season when we gave away the title to a relegation-tier team
What a great achievement.
>and reached fa cup final
And I reached final in your mum's bumhole. Doesn't mean anyone should be content with that performance.

Summer transfer priorities
1.Kroenke OUT
2.Wenger OUT

Skiving off work today lads

>>76065897
Nah time for more ranches son

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H-h-happening??

>>76066077
Can you... do something about your fellow American?

>>76066085
SHOULD be nice.

>>76066090
I fucking wish. If I had all that money I certainly wouldn't be buying ranches. I'd have to ask some of my more redneck inclined friends of this strange obsession

Wenger: IN

>mustafi injured
>gabriel injured
>koscielny suspended

0-5-5 confirmed?

Don't worry, I'll buy the club.
Deal should be finalized next week.

Hey /arse/, remember this?

https://twitter.com/learsearmy

>>76066085
almost got my hopes up before looking up the source

its bullshit
>>76066226
Was it not the hungarian guy who made that

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>>76066499
>KSE is a committed, long-term investor
Nooooo
>investor
No

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>>76066499
>https://twitter.com/RobHarris/status/866588921966338048

>>76049109
Not if we are in Europa, which we are.

>>76049118
I'm semi optimistic sanchez will sign desu

>Jim White on talkSPORT: I'm hearing Alisher Usmanov will be back with a follow-up bid for Stan Kroenke's shares

Hopefully for once it isn't more Jim White bullshit.

>>76050417
kroenke

I'm psychic, here's what will happen in the transfer window:
>IN
Bundesliga meme (Kolasinac)
La Liga reject
Yoof player

>PRACTICALLY LIKE A NEW SIGNING
Wilshere
Chambers
Szczesny
Cazorla

>OUT
Sanchez
Campbell
Debuchy
Ospina

>LOANED OUT
Sanogo
Akpom
Asano
Iwobi

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kosc-city/psg
bellerin-barca
spicy-chelsea
ozil-bayern
ox-liverpool

bye lads

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>Arsenal legend Bob Wilson "its time for the board to talk to Alisher Usmanov about investment in the club"

Good lad. Keep up the pressure.

who is in a worse situation, us or manure?

battle of the banter clubs

>>76066985
Manure will spend far more money than us on transfers and wages regardless of how they do in a season. Even if they lose the Europa League final they'll still be in a better position than us.

>>76066985
You can't question Utd's ambition and effort to be great again.

>>76066692
Usmanov isn't an idiot, he won't overpay for this mess of a club.

And looking at Silent Stan's statement:
>>76066499

He's too stubborn to sell for anything but stupid money, maybe if Usmanov doubles his offer (which he won't do).

>>76066838

Here's my prediction for the future:

Asano will be sold in two years without starting a single game for Arsenal.

>>76067050
>Transfer Rumours Season for Arsenal starts with owner transfer that won't go thru no matter what
What's next? Messi and a €150m bid for Mbappe?

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>>76067051
Is he that bad right now, I thought he's supposed to be scoring goals and making that tiger pose?

>>76067137
nah he's really not that good at all

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Reminder it's online fans and not AFTV that are embarassing are club.

>>76067466
the worst ones are actually theTwitter AKBs

>>76067466
It's the club itself that's embarrassing the club. No-one cares what a bunch of mongs say on Twitter or Youtube.

>>76050006
Probably. Not because he's so excellent, because he's not. It's because Arsenal as a whole is utterly unprepared to replace him properly and suck from top to bottom, so they'll continue to fuck up at every other department.

>>76050417
Wenger. Let's be honest, even if Kroenke goes, they're desperate to make him sell to another passive owner in the same mold and nothing will change. So unless it's certain we'll see an Abramovich-type of owner take over at Arsenal or a group like the Mansours, I don't see how a different owner would trigger a real change.

>>76067691
>It's because Arsenal as a whole is utterly unprepared to replace him properly
See this is still a really weak excuse to me. It's not like you need massive preparation. You can literally just buy out another manager from a club like you buy players.

Generals should be for CL teams only

This needs to be closed down

>>76067714
If Kroenke goes then it will most likely be Usmanov who becomes the new majority shareholder. And he's richer than Abramovich.

>>76067724
>It's not like you need massive preparation.
I'd say that it's very likely that you do.

Unlike at most other clubs, Wenger is basically in control of literally everything. I don't know another manager anywhere in the world with that much say at a football club. When someone is that involved, you can't expect not to be fine with getting someone else in without preparation. Every aspect of the club needs to be ready for a life without Wenger. Whether that's putting certain people in place, changing the approach to certain tasks, I don't know. But in general, it would be a culture shock to say the least.

It's a different situation than at let's say Chelsea. Even at Manchester United, Ferguson had a hands-off approach at certain parts of the club, like the coaching of the first team. Wenger is extremely hands-on. A sudden change of manager has a bigger potential of failure at Arsenal than at most other clubs. That's why I'm annoyed with Wenger leaving it so late. So assuming he's signing a new deal, he should immediately state if it's going to be his final deal, so that the club has well over a year to prepare for life without Wenger. It would only be fair to the club.

>>76067751
Hopefully he isn't a liar and would actually shake things up if he became the new owner. Would feel pretty shit if he said all what he said, just to get in and do exactly what Kroenke does.

>>76067785
>Whether that's putting certain people in place, changing the approach to certain tasks, I don't know.
This is what I'm saying. You'll have to bring in multiple people but just bringing in people is simple. Obviously getting them set up and running every thing as efficiently as possible will take some time, but it's not hard at all to just bring the necessary people in.

Also it could go the opposite way and a sudden change, assuming the proper people are brought in, could be better at Arsenal because you would now spread the work load and be able to delegate everything properly. Which could in turn make everyone more efficient by focusing on their specific roles. Of course this is assuming the person/people above them know how to set things up right.

And Wenger is obviously staying, no two ways about it.

>>76067811
This was an open letter from him to the board after Arsenal sold RVP:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/18725835

Arsenal by the numbers

24 – Goals scored by Alexis in the Premier League this season. This is the most goals a player has scored for Arsenal since Robin van Persie scored 30 goals for Arsenal in 2011/12. That was the season before he joined Man U.

>10 – Assists by Alexis in the Premier League this season (led Arsenal, 5th in the League). In the season which RvP scored 30 he also had 10 assists.

44 – Goals allowed by Arsenal this season. This is the highest goals allowed tally of Arsene’s tenure since 2011/12 and the second worst of all his seasons at Arsenal.

>114 – Cech was 6th in the League in saves. The top players were Burnley’s Heaton, Sunderland’s Pickford, Watford’s Gomes, etc. The worst teams in the League.

145 – Wilfried Zaha led the league in successful dribbles but he was only successful in 57% of his attempts. Alexis led Arsenal with 109 (4th best in the League) and dribbled at a 68% rate.

>136 – Tackles by Idrissa Gueye this season (led the League) of 186 attempts (73%). Second best was N’Golo Kante. Gueye followed last season’s 4.1 tackles per game with another outstanding 4.1 tackles per game. Arsenal’s most prolific tackler was Monreal with 90 of 139 (65%). Xhaka only had 76 tackles of 118 attempts (64%). Needless to say, you don’t really want your left back to be the most prolific tackler on your team.

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>tfw quite like Murrica and ameribros in general
>Kroenke makes me wanna murder every American because they spawned this abomination of an 'owner'

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>>76068144
>tfw quite like Murrica and ameribros in general

>>76068107
>In our view it is clear that you are trying to distract attention from the more fundamental issues facing the Club, and which indeed many of the supporters discuss through social media sites and other forums on a regular basis.
one of us

>>76068107
>>76068204
>The previous decision by the Board to fund the building of the Emirates Stadium with long-term debt was, we believe, certainly not about self-financing. If it had been, it would have been funded through a mixture of debt and non-dividend equity. Instead it allowed, in our view, the major shareholders of the time, who happened to all be Board directors, to load the Club with a liability, to benefit from increased future revenue streams and consequent increase in the value of their holdings, whilst avoiding dilution of their equity. The Board of the time then appeared to pursue a policy of increasing ticket prices and squeezing the fans to cover the short term cost increases which allowed them to bridge until all of these shareholders and Board directors sold 100% of their holdings and cashed out at vast profits.

Reminder that there are no mentally weak players. It's Wenger propaganda

>>76062058
>And who the hell supposed to make the club's environment healthy and full of vigor and ambition to win titles? The manager.

This, just look at Liverpool, god knows how that squad got 76 points

>>76068144
>>76068161
You say that as if he isn't hated here

>>76067785
>like the coaching of the first team
what did fergie actually do then?

>>76068258
Even if players who just came to club are mentally weak in their previous clubs can be changed by being exposed to positive workplace and ambitious environment. Wenger is just too introvert to do that.

Reminder, Wenger is an accountant. He manages like a bookworm, not by passionate attitude like Conte, Kloop, Ferguson but a bit like Pep and Pellegrini just much worse.

>>76068432
>Wenger is just too introvert to do that
why do people keep saying this? it's nothing to do with whether he's an introvert or not

>>76068459
It affects his style in managing people and players. Past players are not even listed him as their preferred manager, even if they are in Invincible squad. He's just not close to his own players.

>>76068528
passing it off as "oh he's an introvert so he can't do that" is stupid. he knows exactly what type of job it is and he's been successful too. his shortcomings stem from way more than just being introverted.

Not that Arsenal need talents atm but why they never bought any Ajax players is beyond me.

>>76068668
Overmars

>>76068713
Can you explain. You'd think having Bergkamp and Overmars there would give them an inside scoop.

Also, what about before Overmars? Plenty of chances with Suarez, Alderweireld, Vertongen, Eriksen to name a few. And its not just Ajax to be honest, but I feel like most players who have shown they are too good for the Eredivisie have come good on the big stage.

>>76068654
It just based on his relations to his players and former ones. You can see many players who are supposed to be successful under him does not have good relationship with him anymore, like Henry, Tony Adams, RVP, Fabregas even the very cheerful and friendly player like Podolski don't really like him. Seems none of his former players credited him that much. You don't really see that with Ferguson. Wenger is certainly not friendly type or interpersonal close to his players and his way of communication to players, I believe, affecting the team's performance as a whole throughout the season. I really feel sorry about Lucas because of this, one talk to media about not having a chance to play has make himself isolated beyond the bench without explanation.

Maybe it's not right associating his bad man-management and communication as introvert but it's not the correct way how to manages a team as of now. He just like Pep but worse in terms of achievement.

>>76068873
Overmars was an Ajax player when Arsenal bought him.

>>76068883
kek

>>76068073
I get your point, but here's my issue with it.

The concept of bringing people in is simple, but I doubt the process is. We're talking about a pretty big influx of pedople coming in at the same time in a period they're probably going to revolutionize how the club does things and we're going to have to trust Arsenal as a club to get every single appointment right.

What I'm saying is that if you don't give them enough time, they're going to end up signing scraps who'll end up being incompetent and then Arsenal would have to go look again. I mean, look at how long it takes them to find someone to fix the damn academy. They only managed to get Jonker and he still split within a year and a half.

It's all about whether they can get the right people in. I don't trust them to get it done with little time and I just about might if they're getting at least a year to find them.

>>76068668
Quincy Owusu-Abeyie

>>76068668
Also we not long bought Donyell Malen

>>76068399
I don't know, but it wasn't coaching. Rene Meulensteen did that during training. Ferguson delegated stuff like that amongst his staff and is probably responsible in an overseer-kind of a way, but I'm too lazy to look up and/or come up with specifics.

>>76068668
Vermaelen too. You probably should have checked your facts.

>>76068883
Ah thought you meant Overmars was the reason they didn't buy any now as he is director of football at Ajax now.

But I meant in recent times.

>>76068952
Tbh, forgot about Vermaelen. But he's they only one I really count. I'm not talking about 15-16 year old youth players but young, good and Eredivisie proven players.

It feels like Arsenal missed out on a lot there imo.

>>76068900
Nah I completely get what you're saying. I'm just adding another view to it.

You have to consider that whoever is brought in will at least be a professional at their job. Of course they might turn out to not be quite as talented as the best people in their field, but rather than Wenger doing five jobs when he's only proficient in one, you'd have five pros doing the job they're good at instead. So it's not like you're just hiring some random guys who have to learn their job from scratch.

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Arsenal in talks to sign Nigerian striker Henry Onyekuru from Belgian side KAS Eupen. Release clause £6.8m. Top scorer in Belgium

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>>76069034
>>76069036
>Henry

WONGA IN

>>76069011
Yeah but you can say the same thing about any club, not just Arsenal so it's not even worth talking about imo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h7jzf9KNO0

>>76069034
>>76069036
This guy obviously won't be first choice, so Welbeck first choice striker confirmed. Wenger OUT OUT OUT.

Postedabout Onyekuru ages ago. Just like I did with Mbappe at the start and middle of the season. Get n my scouting level bitches.

Anyway he's good, should buy him. Rather get Iheanacho though desu

>>76069032
So by relieving work load alone, you'd have a bigger chance that shit gets done at Arsenal?

I can get on-board with that theory.

To add to it all, Arsenal as a club should basically be prepared at all times for a Wenger-departure anyway. It's the pro-thing to do and he's old, he might drop dead randomly.

At the end of the day, I think we can agree that a split of the power at Arsenal is definitely a good start. I don't think we can expect anything really good until that process kicks off.

>>76069034
>>76069036
Tbh, Nig-Henry got almost half of his goals in the post-season playoffs, playing mostly against teams in the bottom half of the league, 1 second-division side and Racing Genk.

Not to shit on the guy, but it kind of puts the "Belgium Top Scorer"-thing in perspective.

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>>76069036
>>76069034
>>76069056