/NFL/ General: BTFO Edition

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>>76015521
Fuck da raidahs.

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That game was GOAT

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>mfw I hyped up my teams first round pick in my mind and just realized there's a good chance he'll be a bust

>>76015902
I don't know what expectations I should have for Jamal Adams in year 1

He should be good, maybe even a droty contender, but I'm worried the struggles the team will have will hurt his development or make him look bad.

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This year will be good for the jaguars

>>76015948
they say that every year. Jags will never be a +win team with barfles at QB

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>>76015948
I know that one day the jaguars will be a good team

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>hearing mumblings that muh Cardinals are looking healthier and more alive
>Bucannon is already fucking questionable

So this team is by design is made to be JUST isn't?

Loins

We're finally winning the division this year

Fuck off Puckers

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>tfw you get excited to see how your new draft picks will be but then you realize football is still months away

>rewatch SBLI
>see that Brady actually played like shit
>had at least three or four more passes that should been picked off

Stop the worship. He's a part of the a good system.

>>76016516
what bothers me is the defense get no credit from pat fans

they dominated the #1 offense in the second half, holding them to 7 points and forcing the big fumble and pat fans even blame the defense for the pick six its fucking stupid.

>>76016403
the packers gave them a 4 game head start last season and they still couldnt do it

WHy do the Raiders think getting Marshawn Lynch is a good idea?

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>>76016516

Remember the 1st of Brady's 2 4th Q TD passes against Seattle in SB 49? Before that play Brady *missed Edelman and Collinsworth made a big deal about what an inaccurate pass it was.

This was perfect to me, as the game ended with a QB making an accurate pass that was picked off. But Brady may not have actually missed that throw, but was being careful because he saw a flash of a CB out of the corner of his eye he wasn't sure about. This is what Brady does. He's careful, as opposed to someone like Brett Farve, who I think ended his teams season with a dumb INT in the playoffs like 15 straight seasons.


The point being that once they had to go all out and try to make a huge comeback, Brady couldn't play this way, and he had to take chances he usually wouldn't. Any back-shoulder throw is a potential INT, and it risky. Brady threw about 20 in SB51.

Every QB throws INTs, pretty much except Brady. Yes, he is part of a good system, but remember his head coach had a full 7 seasons without Tom Brady as his QB and made the playoffs only one time (with one playoff win, against Drew Bledsoe's Pats). But keep saying he's not that good. Heck, say Manning is better.

Just give us the fucking ring at the end of the season and we don't give a crap.

>>76016542
>and pat fans even blame the defense for the pick six
why are you making shit up online lmfao

salty motherfucker

>>76015521
>TB:Bucs ink Ryan Fitzpatrick as veteran backup
RIP Jameis Winston may you steal crab legs from the big grocery store in the sky

>>76016679
Belichick would have won more Owls with Peyton than Brady.

>>76016706
>implying
Belichick is a Brady babby

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>>76016676
>has had a year off to recuperate
>running behind a top 2 OL
>splitting load with three other RBs and a fullback
>mentor for aforementioned runners
>high-powered passing offense takes even more burden off of him
>strong veteran presence in the locker room, much like Charles Woodson and Justin Tuck were

Honestly how is it a bad one? Worst case they bench Lynch in favor of Richard and Washington and the Raiders' offense continues churning like it did last year.

>>76016706
Peyton always preferred to be the main signal caller. Manning ran his offenses. Im not saying Brady doesnt change the play when he needs to, hes an experienced vet who can recognize some bullshit when he sees it but Belichick is the GUY in New England. If Brady ran enough bullshit audibles, Belicheck would have something to say about it.If Manning ran enough bullshit audibles, got half his WR corps killed in the process, the Coach would figuratively apologize to him and say theyd do better

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>>76016699
>Jameis gets injured
>Loses job to the Harvard Conman
>Comes down to Arizona's QB-less wasteland
>No beach fronts anywhere, so no temptation to steal crabs
>Cruise control to owl

>>76016746
he's related to JaMarcus Russell
that's bad enough

>>76016744
i think you pat fans don't appreciate bellichick

once he and brady are gone you're going to realize what you had was special

>>76016840
I hate the Pats m8 but if Belichick was truly this genius everyone says how come he didn't set the world on fire with the Browns?

>>76016854
because he's a better coach now then he was back then

>>76016854
Who knows how things would have been if the Browns hadn't fired him.

LAC:Chargers WR Allen runs routes at full speed
I just want to see him last the year. rivers deserves it.

Do you remember
shitpostin back in september?
Swearin your team was a contender
While choking big leads away

Our hearts were ringing
In the key that our souls were singing.
As we danced in the night,
Remember how the stars stole the night away

Ba de ya - say do you remember
Ba de ya - shitposting in September
Ba de ya - divisional title was a win away

Ba duda, ba duda, ba duda, badu
Ba duda, badu, ba duda, badu
Ba duda, badu, ba duda

My thoughts are skewed
because the pain is continued
only needed a field goal
wide right, bounced off the pole

Now December found the pain we shared in the playoffs .
Only rage and hatred, elites scoff
Remember the delusion

Ba de ya - say do you remember
Ba de ya - shitposting in September
Ba de ya - a super bowl ring was a few months away

There was a
Ba de ya - say do you remember
Ba de ya - shitposting in September
Ba de ya - golden dreams were shiny days

The bell was ringing, aha
Our souls were singing
Do you remember
Never a cloudy day

There was a
Ba de ya - say do you remember
Ba de ya - shitposting in September
Ba de ya - never thought of a season ending play

There was a
Ba de ya - say do you remember
Ba de ya - shitposting in September
Ba de ya - that ring was just a game away

Ba de ya de ya de ya
Ba de ya de ya de ya
ba de ya de ya de ya
De ya

Ba de ya de ya de ya
Ba de ya de ya de ya
ba de ya de ya de ya

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Will Watson even get playing time in the first year? Savage is probably still the go to starter while Watson tries out for the position, right?

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>>76016854

Rebuilding actually took time back then, but he did have some success.

Did you know the Consecutive Passes W/O and INT streak Brady broke a few years back was a record set by Belichick's Browns? In fact, Belichick did the same thing he did with Brady and Bledsoe when he replaced Kosar with Vinny Testaverde. Now Testaverde was literally the laughingstock of the NFL. Came to Cleveland with Bill and ended up being a Pro Bowl QB with Parcells Jets. (I remember watching one game in disbelief that the Pats simply couldn't even slow the Vinnie Jets down, much less stop them.

He took over a 3-13 team and by year 4 they had the #1 Defense and won a playoff game (beating Bill Parcells - who NEVER won a playoff game without Bill Belichick on his staff - not one). Everyone concedes that the 1995 season should have no reflection on Belichick because of what was going on with the team moving to Baltimore. But yeah, he was building a winner there before they pulled the rug out from under him.

Michael Thomas will be a top 5 receiver this year

>>76017509
he doesn't understand playcalling.

Just go back and watch him on the Gruden Camp, he had no fucking idea what he was supposed to say.

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Pick 47 (Rd 2): Michael Thomas
Pick 59 (Rd 2): Roberto Aguayo
Pick 135 (Rd 4): Dak Prescott
Pick 150 (Rd 5): Jordan Howard
Pick 165 (Rd 5): Tyreek Hill
Pick 180 (Rd 6): Moritz Böhringer

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Truly the master of his talent.

ELITE:
Brady, Rodgers, Wilson

SUB ELITE:
Roethlisberger, Carr, Luck, Ryan, Brees

GREAT/GOOD:
Dalton, Rivers, Prescott, Palmer

GOOD/AVERAGE:
Tannehill, Taylor, Flacco, Smith, Mariota, Wentz, Manning, Stafford, Hoyer

MANAGER:
McCown, Kessler, Bortles, Cousins, Bradford, Goff, Newton

SHIT: Siemian, Savage, Glennon, Winston

>>76016663
The packers had an easy as shit schedule at the end of their season while Lions had the hardest with no defense and an offensive line that was shit

>>76016854
People always seem to forget that the foundation for that 2000 Ravens team was laid down by Bellicheck when the the team was still in Cleveland. In all honesty, the Browns would probably be what the Patriots are now if Art Model wasn't such a controlling cunt

>>76019055
better to be a specialist than jack of all trades :^)

>>76019076
>carr and luck
>sub elite
carr isa bt below great/good and luck is good/average

>>76019434
Don't take the bait

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>>76019233
>There was an alternate Universe with Belichick, Ray Lewis, and Tom Brady all on the same team
IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR!

>>76020389
>BB & Ozzie working head to head
How many rings?

>>76016706
Pfft ok

>>76017768
Yeah but will the aints make the playoffs?

>>76020585
Five easy. Most of the NFC and AFC were a joke in the early 2000s

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>this power ranking

>>76022065

> Cam
> consistently threading the needle in tight windows
> 52.9% completion

Woah dere

>>76016706
That doesn't make sense. Peyton called plays, and made changes at the line and all that. That's not Belicheck's style, and it would negate the "system" either way.

>>76015938
lsu fan, been watching him for three years. he's the real deal, he'll make great plays no matter what his teammates do. y'all picked up a baller

>>76022238
>sam bradford higher then matt ryan and dak

ravens

>>76019055
Walrusman is the screen king

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>>76022065
these some ice cold takes

>>76022065
>Flacco cannot play under pressure
>literally finished a game with a busted knee

>devolved into a terrible QB
>actually improving with each season
Too many things to imply, but Flacco's the QB I know best and this is bullshit.

>>76022065
My eyes can't unsee this. My brain is now melting from how god awful this evaluation is

>>76022505
>improving with each season

Not 120 million dollar improving. And he's completely correct when he says flacco relies on 50/50 shots. Dudes career has been made on fuck it I'm going deep passes and the PI's that result from them

>>76022631
It's still improvement, not saying that he's the best QB around, but he's putting him down for the wrong reasons.

Not to mention, he hasn't had top talent working with him.
>2013 season
>starting receivers were Jacoby Jones, Torrey Smith and Marlon Brown
>Jones couldn't find another starting job after Baltimore
>Torrey Smith is a sloth
>Marlon Brown is already out of the league

>>76022065
>kirk that low
>winston that high over smeth
>carr that low
>stafford lower than palmer and bradford
>tanneshit that fucking high
>mariota over carr
>cam and luck
holy hell my autism is flaring

>>76022065
kek the guys entire twitter is him defending his shitty list

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>>76022065
>subjective evaluation in one line of text

>>76022065
>this list is not based on statistics, wins, or clutch

So it's a shit list

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>>76022065

>>76019434
>Luck
>Good/average
Confirmed for not having watched a second of Clots football, he's literally our entire team. When he's healthy and makes good decisions he's absolutely elite.

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>>76022065

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>>76022065
>cam newton top 10

>>76024955
It's even funnier when he claims part of the reason is his accuracy

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>>76022065
>brady isn't 5

>>76025322
tom brady is a loser lmao

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Thank you based Carr

>>76025552
Thank you based Carr

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>>76022763
>this is considered "improvement"

>>76025945
>more yards
>better cmp%
>that magical year under Gary Kubiak
It literally is

>>76026025
>more attempts than ever
>worst ypa in his career
>just 20 TDs
>15 picks

>>76026025
He has more yards because he threw the ball 70 more times than any other QB in the league save Brees, yet still was almost dead last among YPA out of every qualified QB.

>>76026193
>>76026181
Oline was dead last season, also reflected in a dead running game. The fact the he had an all time high season in yards and cmp% is beyond me.

He keeps getting better despite the rest of the offense falling apart. Luckily Pitta is back and maybe Ronnie Stanley will give the Oline more stability.

>>76025945
Ravens record with Flacco pre 120 mil contract extension

54-26(67.25%), 1 super bowl win, 2 division titles, 9 playoff wins

Ravens record with Flacco post 120 mil contract extension

31-33(48.44%), 1 playoff win

really makes me go hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

>>76026349
>lose pretty much every SB starter minus Suggs, Yanda and Flacco
>team declines
really makes me think

>>76026402
on a serious note

at what point does Flacco's honey moon with the ravens end for winning that owl and he actually has to be good again

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>>76026340
>all time high in yards

Wow he finally reached 4k yards.

He would've passed for more last year if he didn't get injured.

No doubt these 2016 stats show he's truly elite.

>>76026447
When they reach the playoffs, don't think that will happen with the current coaching staff and Oline
>>76026478
But I'm not saying he's elite

>>76026573
He has actually regressed compared to last year in everything except in his % and his sack rate.

>>76026611
All related to the Oline play, if you saw those games you'd know Flacco was actually playing better despite the circumstances. I think most Ravens fans know that he has become more reliable.


I'm sure some QBs would have handled the situation better than him, but only a handful.

>>76026736
>using bulk stats to show he's improved
>"but he's actually regressed as shown here"
>y-y-you have to watch the games to value how good he was!

He's been mediocre at best, and I've watched him last year. Not every game but enough to see that he wasn't good.

>>76026846
And what do you think about that Oline?

>>76025340
This

>>76026890
It's bad, which doesn't make Flacco's play good.

Think about this, these are the QBs that have retired or will be reitred by 2021
Tony Romo
Jay Cutler
Eli Manning
Tom Brady
Drew Brees
Ben Roethlisberger
Phillip Rivers
Carson Palmer
Alex Smith


All these guys will be gone. Most of you grew up with QBs.

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>>76025552
Thank you based Carr....

>be seeing you soon.

>>76026956
That's the point, with the Oline playing as poor as they did, coaching staff decided to just throw the ball short and fast, he had no time to go deep despite having speedy recievers like Wallace and Perriman or even make adjustments, yet he still never flinched. I think a fair measure about his improvement is the 2014 season (with Kubiak), and I agree that he seems mediocre, but still much better than 27 and much better than his former self.

When I say only a handful of QBs could have handled the situation better, is because I have seen them do so, and right now I can only think about Rivers and last season's Wilson.

>>76027217
He was way below average in every single metric besides completion percentage. The OL being bad doesn't make him better just because he passed for many yards in 672 attempts. His 4,317 yards and 20 TDs were both the worst marks for any QB with at least 640 passes thrown in NFL history.

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which one

>>76027567
Nope, but the Oline playing bad does excuse him for the decline in some stats.
>>76027603
5th

>>76027603
If you had to pick one, I'd say go with the purple ones. They stand out the most. I suppose if you wanted to be a little more old-fashioned though, you could pick those red ones. They seem really lively. Or you could say screw it and pick some of the purple, reds and yellows. Live bold.

>>76025251
the best part for is tannehill has "great pocket awareness"


Bro even dolphins fan will laugh. he is shit at pocket movement

>>76027603
5,2,4,1,3

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what would you do to Brett Favre's daughter /nfl/?

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>>76028804
Land a plane on her forehead and cast her for the all female reboot of Mask.

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>>76027603

> tops and bottoms not matching

>>76016706

Look at Brady's QB Rating Indoors.

Look at Manning's.

Now feel dumb.

>>76027134
>will be reitred by 2021
>Tom Brady
>he doesn't know

>>76029242
yes yes we know Brady's going to play until at least 55 because blah blah muh diet and he's apparently the only human in history that won't get old

>NFL owners are also expected to approve the proposal that was previously tabled to reduce regular season OT from 15 to 10 minutes

>>76015552
Raiders fans all happy about getting stomped by Denver week 17 and getting btfo in the playoffs.

>>76019076
the only thing this list is good for is seeing how fucking retarded you are.

>>76027165
>Chargers having any territory at all
>Chargers being in Las Vegas at all
Literally the only place on the face of planet earth where the Chargers matter at all is in San Diego, and Spanos fucked them all in the ass and left without cuddling a few months back. That team won't be able to fill the 28,000 seat soccer stadium they'll be playing in, nevermind the 100,000 seat megaplex Stan wants to build.

>>76025552
BREAK A LEG! Thank you based cripple.

>>76029918
>Literally the only place on the face of planet earth where the Chargers matter at all is in San Diego, and Spanos fucked them all in the ass and left without cuddling a few months back

If only this wasn't true.

Alienated the majority of the SD fanbase to move 2 hours North.

Also, that megaplex is delayed for another year.

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who here /dak attack/

>>76016403
Idk man. I just get the feeling Abdullah is going to get a season ending injury early. Our Dline is still pretty bad and we need another receiver. Hopefully this receiver we got in the draft can help us out or Jace Billingsley will improve.

I live in Vegas and literally everyone hates the Raiders

They are going to have to move again in 5 years because nobody is going to buy any tickets

>>76030757
I found it odd the Lions focused so heavily on coverage with Davis and Tabor early instead of going pass rush which was fairly non existant with Ansah injured

All for BPA but no matter how good your DBs are you ain't beating the best teams in the league without a top tier pass rush

>>76030845
There will be enough tourists and stupid Oakland fans there every Sunday that it won't matter.

>"I don’t even like to talk Lions too much just because the way our relationship ended," Johnson said when asked about his No. 81 being retired. "If they see me around here, we’ll see. But hey, I don’t know.

>"I just didn’t feel like I was treated the way I should have been treated on the way out. That’s all. I mean, it’s all good. I’m not tripping. I don’t feel any kind of way, just hey, that's what they did. Hey, it is what is."

>Asked to explain how he was treated, Johnson declined to go into specifics.

>"I mean, it’s simple," he said. "It’s simple. It’s easy when you think about it."


C...Calvin-kun....I'm sorry..

>>76030921
Teez was an odd choice, although we did need a corner. But I love the Davis pick. The Lions secondary was good last season. It was the linebackers that gave up something like 80% of their passes. Teams dinked and dunked on us every game and TE was especially deadly to us, so LB was the biggest need. I feel like it also made the Dline worse than what it really was. But when Ngata is still starting in a 4-3 you know Dline is now their biggest issue.

>>76030964
>Thanks for being our best player since 2008 but can we have some of that money we gave you back?

Top kek

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What did Google mean by this?

>>76031374
It's pretty obvious to anyone that isn't a casual patsfag that without Belichick the pats would never have sniffed the Superbowl and Tom Brady on any other team would be ringless.

>Matthew Stafford isn't a top 10 QB

When will this meme die?

>>76031577
Maybe the day he wins a playoff game.

>>76031374
The first name you think of when you hear the words "quarterback" is Tom Brady

>>76031592
He beat the Cowboys but the refs fucked him over

>>76031936
no he didn't he choked that game away because he isn't anything better than a decent quarterback

>>76031838
Actually it's Joe Montana.

>>76031936
>Had the ball driving down the field at the end of the game
>fumbles the ball recovered by Dallas
>penalty offsets the turnover
>fumbles the ball away on the very next play

Ah yes but the refs sure did cost you that game am I right?

>>76031989
>detroit defense can't even stop a 4th and 14 that would have also most likely had secured them the game
Detroit choked

>>76032015
I've said it for years Lions vs Cowboys has been the NFLs most underrated and least talked about rivalry from 2009 onwards. That game was great but Stafford choked. Lions defence played pretty well for most of that game in all honesty. Just watching it felt like Romo was under pressure in the pocket every time he dropped back

>>76032086
Cowboys have been the Lions rivals for a long time. Like 7 of their 12 playoff appearances in super bowl era were against the Cowboys. In the 70s there was a game where the Cowboys won 5-0. The Cowboys are also the only playoff win the Lions have in the modern era.

1. Brady
2. Rodgers
3. Ryan
4. Brees
5. Carr

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>>76019076
>Luck
>sub-elite

>>76019177
so the lions are shit? are you trying to make an argument or something?

>>76032213
1. Brady
2. Rodgers
3. Brees
4. Ryan
5. Prescott
....
11. Carr
....
14. Luck

>>76027134
>most of you grew up with
thanks, didn't need a reminder that at 28 I'm already ancient by 4chan standards. My QBs retired a long time ago

>Dak better than Carr
nigga are you high, he was a rookie, he doesn't even have 30 TDs yet

all tripfags should die

>>76027134
>tfw hated football until I was 16
>only been watching it since 2011

Matthew Stafford has always been my QB. Will be weird when he's not anymore.

>>76032275
What happened to Luck in 2015?

>>76027134
It'll be interesting to see a new crop of QBs come up.

Also: which QB do you think retires next?

I think Palmer, then Big Ben, then Brees -- maybe.

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*blocks your playoff win*

>>76033432
More like blocks his own playoff win

>>76033432
All he had to do was not chimp out.

>>76033432
>Weeks 8-17

what about the other weeks

>>76036777
Doomed from the start.

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>>76022065
>tannehill
>great at pocket movement
What? He's blind as a bat in the pocket. Literally only good once the play gets fucked and he has to leave the pocket

>>76033375
I think that's when he was playing with a hurt shoulder or something? Or maybe the lacerated kidney

>>76033432
>Bengals
>winning playoff games

Fun fact: Marvin Lewis is the longest tenured coach to not win a playoff game

>>76037180
12+ years without a playoff win.

How does he keep his job?

>>76037202
Their owner realizes it's cheaper to keep one guy around who's willing to put up with his shit, instead of signing scrub coaches to 3 to 5 year contracts and firing them after one year, like other shitty teams.

He even gave Lewis GM powers so he wouldn't need to hire a GM.

>>76036931
it's hard to have good pocket movement when you have 3 guys rushing at him. When he has to adjust once or twice he's great.

>>76037456
I'm not necessarily saying they should fire coaches like other teams do -- the inept teams, anyway -- but, after 12+ years, I think in that time other coaches could've scratched up 1 playoff win with the team.

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>This image will be outdated within a year

>>76037538
yeah it's tricky

Marvin Lewis might even be better than half the coaches in the league, he's stabilized the bengals, they went from perennially awful to an above average organization.

Can he argue he's snakebit? to a degree I guess, his two best bengals teams both lost their starting quarterback for the playoffs but 0-7 is too big to say it's all bad luck.

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>>76037202

Unless someone's a dufus I think it's good to let them stay. Watching Buffalo change coaches every 2 years is fucking depression and I'm a god damn Pats fan.

If there's a chance to get someone special, okay make a change. But to make a change for the sake of it is what most owners do and 99% of the time it backfires.

Obviously Kraft made the right move firing Carroll to hire Belichick, but you should hear New England fans. Still to this day will not admit they were wrong about Pete. Got into an argument with a Globe writer about it - just flooding him with stats - like the fact he had a better record with Bledsoe as his starter than either Belichick or Parcells did, or the 1999 season the guy pointed to as proof of his suckiness the AFC East had a combined record of 49-31 but Pete managed to go 8-8 with a top 10 defense after losing their starting RB in the off season. "Nope. He sucks." Hmm, okay.

Like I say when an owner is moved to fire a coach by an idiot fan base / media it seldom pays off.


As far as never winning a playoff game? Bill Parcells never won a playoff game without Belichick on his staff. Yet a few years ago you didn't have to look far to find someone claiming he was the GOAT.

>>76037628
>only a dufus would want to can a head coach that has as many playoff wins in over a decade than they do

I understand what you're trying to say but at what point is it insane to keep someone like Lewis around?

>>76027165
that map is so false it isn't even funny

>>76027165
that map is so funny it isn't even false

>>76038308
>>76038836

>arguing about the NFC west

As if the sun hasn't set on your old ass division

East is where it's at bitches

>>76038308
>>76038836

The socks will have more wins than the rest of that division combined and that's including the weak ass 6-0 they will go against other NFC west teams

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>>76019076
>Smeth not in Management tier

>>76019076
It's amazing how Dak is only a sophomore and Cam has been in the league for years now, yet I'd rather turn my team over to Dak than Cam.

>>76022065
>Newton
>Mariota
>Tannehill
>Bradford
>Palmer
>Manning
>Prescott
>Taylor
>All over Stafford
>Stafford
>Extremely sloppy decision making
>In the year 2017

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>>76039608

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nfl.com

>>76040061
Funny how everyone on the seahawks want to sign Kap. Its so obvious that the players can't stand Wilson and the second he shits the bed, everyone will be calling for Kap.

>>76040120
>Its so obvious the plays can't stand Wilson

It doesn't matter he's arguably the second best QB in the NFL he's not getting benched for Kaep and I'm one of the biggest Kaep fans on here

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Which team was a bigger disgrace last season, Punthers or Tardnials?

>>76040061

>please somebody sign this mouthy nigger so we don't have to deal with another season of faggot bay area fans calling our league racist

>>76040147
>he's arguably the second best QB in the NFL

1. Brady
2. Rodgers
3. Ryan
4. Carr
5. Wilson?

best I can do senpai

>>76040177
Cardinals only missed the playoffs because of missed FGs and Palmer desu

Cam was too inconsistent even though muh shoulder, their defense regressed and they literally were just in the owl so probably the Panthers imo

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>>76040177

Retardinals season ended in week one

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>>76040315

CANT STUNT THE BLOUNT

>>76040177
Tardinals had the best regular season game desu

https://youtu.be/6zaKTCO98Ow

>>76040366

Cardinals: “Here, you take the W, good chaps.”

Seahawks: “No, I couldn’t possibly take it, please, you take the W.”

Cardinals: “No I insist sir, you take it.”

Seahawks: “Well perhaps we could both be gentlemen and split the W.”

Cardinals: “Capital Idea, Old sport!”

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>>76040366

my sides fampachi

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Let's be honest here: right now, can you pencil in the Patriots for a SB berth, if not a win just yet?

>>76040608
>blair walsh project
that's Steven Hauschka, fampaitachi

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why doesn't your team have a qt fangirl in the media???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_xyyGOgB10

>tfw moving from philly to surrounding suburbs

Guess I'm a Steelers fan now instead of iggles

>>76041303
well given their division you can at least guarantee them a playoff place and likely a top two seed.
it all depends on who they have to face in the playoffs/championship game

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The 2017-18 Cowboys will have
>Top 10 run D
>Top 5 offense
>28+ ppg
>10+ wins
>#1-4 seed
>8+ sack player
>2500+ rushing yards
>playoff win(s)
>6+ probowlers
>a ROTY candidate/winner
>a MVP candidate/winner

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Threadly reminder that 4God is running all over those shit NFC West and AFC North defenses this year

>>76047195
i like fournette, hope the jags dont ruin him like I think they will

he''s going to get a lot of loaded boxes

>>76016384
Cards are lowkey one of the worst teams in the league. Too shitty to matter but not shitty enough to be noticed.

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>>76047256
>Loading the box against the Allens and Lee
Heh yeah see how that works out for you

I mean yeah it forces Bortles to throw the ball but it's not like Bortles can't throw it, he just makes stupid decisions

Pretty easy choice to just lob it up to Robinson when it's one on one

>>76047388
i think most teams are comfortable taking their chances with the allens because bort is still their qb

>>76047388
allen robinson has had one good year, and regardless of the receivers bortles is going to hold the entire offense back

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>>76047495
I mean, Bortles still threw 35 touchdowns in a season before without a running game and a defense and despite popular belief they were not all garbage time touchdowns. A large majority of them came against teams who had running games who simply scored on the ground and took up a lot of clock and forced Jacksonville to answer, of which they could only do through the air.

I'm excited to watch the Jags for the first time in a long time, bunch of guys in contract years with something to prove

>>76047678

He had a "down" year, he'll be back over 1,000 this year. He's only 23

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>>76047388
i really like this image

i'm happy for wojak -- happy that he found someone to make existence less tiresome and trifle

hopefully one day i'll find someone like that

>>76048841
Make an Amber Heard thread on /tv/ and see how wrong you are

>>76046887
And not make the NFCCG

Come again next year tiki

>>76048982
oh. i get it.

i like the image even more now, for different reasons of course. what a piece of art.

>>76048982
Why, what do they say?

>>76049227
Amber Heard has a reputation of ruining the lives of just about every man she gets involved with because she's a crazy bitch, currently trying to suck Johnny Depp for everything he's worth after accusing him of domestic violence

>>76038173
Never. As long as they are competing deep into every season and selling out the stadium and selling merch. Fans purchase based on hope more than winning chips.

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Why are the Raiders so based?

>>76049714
Because they aren't in Oaklel anymore

>>76033156
>muh TDs

It's all about comp% and converting 3rd and long.

>>76016746
Lynch's back has been blow out since 2015, a year of rest doesn't fix something that will plague him with issues for life

The dude didn't even really practice for virtually all of his time in Seattle and his back was still fucked

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ravens?

Saving the thread

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>Hey Anon, go deep.

>>76050325
If your QB was good, there wouldn't be a 3rd and long though, also TDs win games

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>>76057080
Yes but good QBs are still clinical on 3rd downs

Brady was like 20 points higher in passer rating than anyone else

>>76016706
>

>>76057080
Passing TDs aren't the only TDs you fucking retard and third and longs are about the run game as well dumbass.

How can you possibly be this single minded and ignorant of the game of football and dare post on /nfl/ as if you know anything?

>>76057080
3rd and longs inevitably happen though, that's like saying if Brady was good, he wouldn't have fallen down by 25 points in the super bowl before he came back.

>>76057947
>running on 3rd and long
you must be new

>>76058226
Getting to a third and long you retard.

>>76058371
>running the ball and losing yards

Your team must truly be awful

>>76058371
teams with good qb's don't lose yards on running plays because the def is too scared of the pass to attack the LoS... retard

gtfo

>>76058569
why even have a punter right?

if your team is good they'll score a td on every drive

>>76049403
Didn't he admit he hit her, though?

>>76045819
6/10 at best

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>>76058872
yeah well you're a 2/10 at best fucking faggot

>>76059031
What a terrible insult to my eyes, your little quip was bad as well

>>76059144
you're a terrible insult to the human race you fucking faggot

>>76040147
>Wilson 2nd best
No
>Kaep fan
Literally why? Did you actually watch him play? He can't make even simple reads let alone pre snap audibles. Watching him try to operate an offense is one of the most painful things I've ever had to watch.

>>76019076
>Wilson above Brees
Not until Wilson breaks a Marino record.

>>76039639
yeah it's really amazing what a qb can do when you give him a top 5 rb, a top 3 oline, a top 10 wr core, and a top 10 te

just incredible

>>76059738
i mean, he's a 4th round rookie, it'd be one thing if he's in the league forever but he stepped right in and played on a team that won 4 games the year before.

also i don't think it's a top 10 wr core, dez really hasn't played great for awhile now

>>76059834
>Tripled
>Still pulls TDs
C'mon dude. He got hurt the last two seasons too.

>>76059738
Cam has it easy too when his defense is making sure he never has to play from behind

>>76059892
not denying he's been hurt, he's just not as productive as your typical #1

>>76059937
His TDs over games played average disagrees with you. The amount of coverage he pulls also disagrees with you. The reason dak has so many open underneath routes is because Dez is pulling a safety and a half every single play.

>>76059967
If Dez is so good why did he get ass raped by Janoris Jenkins last year?

>>76059967
But that's BS because Dez missed a lot of games yet they played better without him and Dez had the worst drop rate in the league.

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>I support the Patriots

The amount of mental gymnastics this guy goes through to deny the great season Dak had is astounding.

>>76059967
hes a very good redzone threat still but I don't think he's good enough to make the cowboys wr group top 10. Obviously Beasley is one of the better slot guys but they don't really have a good guy opposite dez either. I was stunned they resigned terrance williams

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I come from the future.

>>76060214
>3 AFC South teams making the playoffs

Kek, the colts and Texans aren't doing shit. Titans are the only good team in it now.

t. Coltsfag

>>76060310
Easy strength of schedule elevates the Texans and Colts. Aside from Seattle, the NFC West should be easy and they get the AFC North which is also weak.

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>>76060310
>t. Coltsfag

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>>76060214
>makes shitty predictions
>frames them as the future
>doesn't even get dubs

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>>76016030

>>76060399
What's your team?

>>76060214
Holy shit this is terrible

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>>76019076
>GOOD/AVERAGE:Tannehill, Taylor, Flacco, Smith,

>>76060214
but your god damned trip back on you fucking maori tripfaggot, you know who you fucking are.

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>>76026349

>>76060310

Lemme prove to you why the Colts are winning it all.

> Luck is fully 100%
> Even when injured, he was accurate/dangerous as fuck
> No Grigshit
> Ballard making this team a team
> Top 10 defense
> Top 5 offense again
> Once in playoffs, guarantee SB trip
> Vontae is the #1 cb again in the nfl
> Quincy Wilson a shutdown cb
> Frank G becomes the all time #1 rb with 1,000 yards
> Mack attack fuckin shit up
> Turbin is unstoppable on 3rd down
> Zach Banner another great lineman
> Butler have a career year and #1 slot cb
> Money Vinny breaks his 44 consecutive fg and becomes #1 kicker
> Hooker and Geathers shut down safeties
> The Colts have 2/ 1,000yrds receivers while Moncrief have 12 tds
> The rush D wont allow no 100 yard games
> The Dline gonna rack up hella sacks and tackles
> No qb will have time in the pocket
> 12-4 record. (Steelers, Rams, Bills, Texans) 5-1 div

>>76060504
>top 10 defense

Holy shit dude what are you smoking right now?

>>76060504
We're 0-7 against the pats in the Luck era.

We aren't doing shit until Brady retires or Belichick finally gets dragged into the Lake of Fire as part of his deal with the devil and that could be another 4-5 years

>>76060504
I wish I could conjure up an offensive and defensive line and make the shit running backs good for my team. I could be coach!

>>76060504
9-7 team at best but might be enough to make the playoffs with how weak the AFC is this year and how easy the interconference games are

>Win
-Jags twice
-Titans at home
-Cleveland
-Cincinnati
-Pittsburgh
-Buffalo
-LA
-SF

>Lose
-Texans twice
-Titans at their home
-Baltimore
-Denver
-Seattle
-Arizona

>>76060520

Loud, but thats not the point. Defense can shape to be great, all depends on coaching.

>>76060533
>>76060547

Thats because of Pagano and his failure to come up with decent fucking plays. Again could have beaten the Pats if not the dumbness of Pagano in '15. Should let Luck do the playcalling instead.

>>76060655
>all depends on coaching.

Yeah there's your problem.

>>76060655
Being a fan doesn't include delusion. The Colts have a really good shot at being last in the afc south. You got a couple of years at least until things change. Don't worry, Luck will still be a great qb and at that point, possibly the best.

>>76060647
And eliminated in Round 1 by the Titans or Chiefs.

>>76060758
>The Colts have a really good shot at being last in the afc south

I'm as pessimistic a colts fan as they come and I have us locked in at third.

You have to realize that EVERY FUCKING YEAR is "t-this is the jags year!" because people are so desperate to see a perpetual underdog be good. It won't happen, the jags are still the jags.

I still remember 60% of /sp/ predictions had the jags winning the AFC south last season. They went 3-13 and finished 5 games behind third (Indy) and 6 behind the Titans and Texans.

I'll say

Titans 11-5
Texans 9-7
Colts 8-8
Jags 4-12

>>76060764
>And eliminated in Round 1 by the Titans or Chiefs.

Titans possibly.

Indy doesn't lose to the chiefs in the playoffs. >We knocked them out more than half of their playoff appearances over their 20+ year stretch of not winning a playoff game.

Then the Texans fucked it up.

>>76060758
I think the colts should be favored to win the division

texans defense played at a level i dont think is sustainable, even with watt coming back and it's far from a given that watson is good right off the bat. think they'll take a step back.

no faith in the jags ever

I think it's the titans or the colts, but I'm going to give the edge to the colts because more experienced quarterback and I think will be an improved defense.

>>76015948
>Maria

Acceptable taste

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>>76060940
This. And I'm a Jaguar fan.
I'll believe it when I see it.

>>76050492

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>>76061646
I feel you bro. This team is a torture device.

>>76060504
>> Mack attack fuckin shit up
The term "Mack Attack" is for Raiders fan only
if you must "Mack" add that players to the Beginning (IE KMack)

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>tfw the GOAT is now a pitchman for the GOAT car company

>>76059427
>>76059427
at least I'm not assmad

>>76062169
That's not Ferrari, Lamborghini, or Jaguar, instead you have the Literally Who of Luxury Cars

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please peyton come be the vikings OC we need you

>>76062316
>le BTFO by emus fan of birb team man

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>>76062316
serious question, why do you trip for the ravens but suck a lot of giants cock? I hear youre a saints fan too

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>>76062199
Nigga you'd better not be fucking talking shit about Aston Martin.

>>76062556
your image does little to change my opinion

>>76062524
Everyone who isn't an NFC South fan likes the Saints because Brees is the most likable and respectable QB in the league

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>>76029828
>MFW I was there week 17

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Why can't the Eagles win a Superbowl?

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They know

>>76016516
>part of the a good system.
*The centerpiece
Those leadership skills play an essential role in making lacrosse players, collage qb's turned wr and fast-food workers into top level performers.

>>>76016542
>Pick 6
Read up on the mechanics of that play. The design of that play was to bait the coverage deeper into the backfield, Alford read that play perfectly, anticipated the throw and used his superior speed to dart into position just as Brady made the pass. Dieon Sanders couldn't have pulled that one off any better.

>>76027669
Maybe they'd have a better offensive line if Señor Quaterback wasn't the most overpaid QB in the league for his skill set.

>>76062270
The vikes got a good chance to run the tables in the north this year imo. The running game just has to resemble something worthwhile.

>>76064880
1. Dak
2. running game a shit
3. your battery throwing fans
4. Dak

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>>76015948
who /blind faith/ here?

>>76040366
>watching this game with family
>everybody pissed catman misses the fg
>bet everyone 20 dollars shehawks miss for fun
:^)

>>76015521
>This photo is the proudest momrnt in the last 30 years for the Raiders

The NFL really needs to purge these shitty west coast teams

>>76066623
this tbqh

>>76066623
all coasties should just die honestly

>>76066623
>>76066999
>>76067556
>Being flyover cucks
Not even once

>>76062169
>ubreakable piece of British shit being the goat
tommek
>>76062199
>poo in loo jaguar
>luxury
>anything lamBo or Ferrari makes
>luxury

Porsche is the goat sports car / Racing and history company
Mercedes-Benz is the jack of all trades
Rolls Royce is the goat luxury car company
Bently comes as a close 2nd

>>76067723
>living in an over packed and crime ridden shit hole

No thanks

Calvin kind of acting like a faggot desu

>>76068886
>make him pay you over 300 thousand dollars back

meanwhile the jets are giving revis a 6 million retirement gift because we're a classy organization

>>76068928
>Retire 14 minutes into your new contract
>$100M
>Literally tell like 2 people you're going to retire
>Wait as long as possible
>Retire

Why should they do anything for the most overrated WR of all-time?

>>76069138
lol i guess

to an nfl organization though it's not a lot of money

I've been saying for years though they overpaid megatron. No wr should be making that kind of money

>>76069325
Megatron was the only reason people bought tickets or watched games for a while. It wasn't his play making ability but his marketability that he was given his contract

>>76067840
Pretty sure it's flyover cities that have more crime, Cleetus.

>>76070012
>more crime than oakland

When does EAs stranglehold on NFL football expire?
I want some REAL football sims and not the nanoblitz chuck it down the field bullshit that EA passes off as a simulation.

Each team's last major uniform overhaul

>Bills
2011 (major upgrade)
>Dolphins
2013 (sidegrade)
>Patriots
2000 (minor upgrade)
>Jets
1998 (upgrade)

>Ravens
n/a
>Bengals
2004 (downgrade)
>Browns
2015 (major downgrade)
>Steelers
1968 (upgrade)

>Texans
n/a
>Colts
1957 (minor upgrade)
>Jaguars
2013 (major downgrade)
>Titans
1999 (major downgrade)

>Broncos
1996 (major downgrade)
>Chiefs
n/a
>Chargers
2007 (minor upgrade)
>Raiders
1963 (major upgrade)

>Cowboys
1996 (minor upgrade)
>Giants
2006 (minor upgrade)
>Eagles
1997 (downgrade)
>Redskins
1969 (upgrade)

>Bears
1950 (minor upgrade)
>Lions
2017 (upgrade)
>Packers
1959 (minor upgrade)
>Vikings
2014 (upgrade)

>Falcons
2003 (major downgrade)
>Panthers
n/a
>Saints
1986 (sidegrade)
>Buccaneers
2014 (major downgrade)

>Cardinals
2006 (major downgrade)
>Rams
2000 (major downgrade)
>49ers
2009 (major upgrade)
>Seahawks
2012 (downgrade)