Argentina

>he hasn't seen Sevilla's last ten games with this hack playing his meme Bielsa tactics

>Martino (argie coach) does a good job with Paraguay
>goes to Spain with mediocre results
>is shit with Argentina

>Sampaoli (argie coach) does a good job with Chile
>goes to Spain with mediocre results
>????

There HAS to be a rationale explaination as to why such a talented team like Argentina has 0 international trophies in this generation

>>76009357
The others wanted it more

>>76009232
Argentina hired Joe Rogan?

>>76009232
???
he sucks dude wtf are you saing

>>76009726
How did you Portuanons celebrate EURO 2016?

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>>76009860
With a big white cock

>>76009357
rigged matches against germany (2006 and 2014)

B-b-but messi was on his period

>>76010026
>>76009357
2010 was THE YEAR
Cambiasso and Samuel and Zanetti were all there, all ready
and Argentina let Maradonna dick around because it was chic to have a former player as the coach at the time
utter lmao
enjoy biglia garay otamendi and so on

>>76009331

>Is Shit with Argentina
>Three Finals
>Shit

This is why the wall is being built Jorge.

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>>76009357

This is why

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>>76009357
*blocks your trophies*

>>76010275
imagine chile wins the world cup against argentina in the final

>>76010275
Chile are shit. They were shit in the WC and only won 2015 and 2016 because, Brazil and Uruguay were shit, Colombia are as overrated as Chile, and the only argie players with some dignity are Messi, Di Maria and Romero. Today Brazil would easily ass rape them

>>76010471
>el guatemANO

Stay jelly. We are going to won the Confed Cup and then the WC.

>>76010471
They were unlucky in the WC

>>76010195
fuck you fucking faggot
you know shit about futbol
it was messi fault because he walked the fucking three finals
MESSI IS OVERRATED

>>76010713
t.Icardi

>>76010680
>>76010609
Chile are like those shitty immigrants that start getting money after being total failures in life and start building tacky McMansions and doing retarded stuff to show a certain social status, but when the real deal comes, they show their true face

>>76009357
every player from this generation is a pampered diva living in Europe who has never had to work a second job while playing football to make ends meet

P E C H O F R I O S

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>>76010138

>2010

nigger, 2006 was the actual golden generation
they played some beautiful football and that team was full of stars and a competent coach. Had they won vs germany they would have won it all that year.

>>76010713
He deserved a break after carrying them all the way there desu. Based Iran deserved their point

>>76010940
>couldn't win against mexico in 90 minutes
embarrassing

>>76010940
2010 had the inter argies filled to the brim with Mou magic and messi. 06 had talented players but the team lacked that special x factor

>>76010940
>needing a 97' blooter to beat mexico
>not shit

>>76010895
not an argument

>>76009357
>such a talented team like Argentina has 0 international trophies in this generation

talented who? one mediocre player doesn't become automatically good just because they have a Manchester United tag in their career. Just because every european club has exponentially increased their budget in the last decades due to globalization (and prostituting themselves to oil barons) and that internet allows every team to see, analyse and purchase "the next Redondo/Maradona" for 2 pesos it doesn't mean that those players are actually worth more than a 90s' Batistuta

mediocre/above average team plus bad management gives you the current result.

>>76010166
Which wall? Bill Clinton built more and Obama deported more.

Trump is a fraud

>>76011147
And bad luck is?

>>76010471

>x team is bad
>only won because everyone else was worse

Really joggins the noggins

>>76010713
>It was Messi's fault he's manmarked by a good team while playing deep and relies on his buddies to at least put a shot on target.

>>76011153
>Redondo
>good
kys

>>76011211
Yes

>>76011252
losing to 7-1 invalidates your argument

>>76011252
>that flag
>those posts
can't take you seriously, sorry

>>76011224
it's true though.

>>76010935
Chile's best players are from Bayern and Arsenal lad

>>76011345
chile didn't lose 7-1. They lost on penalties in a game they were unlucky not to win in open play to a team with neymar and thiago silva

>>76011404
>this
>these posts
can't take you seriously sorry

Why is it so hard to believe that Messi can't just pull out GOAT magic all the time against a good team? Those teams Argentina faced in the final were there for the sole reason of being good.

Germany 2014 was literally an unstoppable machine that had world class players in the midfield and backline. Chile 2015 and 2016 had an amazing team ethic of constant pressing for the ball.

How can you expect Messi to go up against an organized team alone with no one to help him? It's funny how I always hear "Messi didn't do shit in the final, Messi didn't dribble 4+ players to score the goal to win, Messi didn't score his 40m+ freekick - ergo Messi will never be better than Maradona" yet hear absolutely NO criticism for anyone else in the Argentina team other than Higuain for being the most obvious choker?

And who even started this meme that Maradona carried Argentina all by himself scoring goals like the semifinal goals against England (and that Argentina was filled with literally whos because it must be true, Maradona has to be this unstoppable force of nature)? Couldn't be further from the truth. Maradona never scored in a world cup final and lost his second world cup final yet you never hear the end of the mythical Maradona that isn't based on reality.

Why is it Messi's fault that his teammates can't stand up to the occasion like a team?

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we tried everything, no regrets about "wasting the GOAT"

We tried making a team that works without him, and putting him on top of it, so he doesn't feel the pressure (Basile). It didn't work.

We tried making a team that plays like Barcelona so he can feel comfortable (Martino, Batista). It didn't work.

We tried making a team that is good at defending and making him the center of our attack, Maradona 1986 style (Sabella). It didn't work.

He chokes against Brazil. Okay, Brazil is a great team. He chokes against Germany. Okay, Germany is a great team. He chokes against Uruguay, okay, they are world champions.

We sacked coaches and players because he didn't like them (Riquelme, Tevez, Basile). We put in coaches and players just because he asked (Martino and his Newell's friends).

He doesn't score in KO games? Maybe he's saving up for the next game. Maybe he's saving up for the final.

Now he had this chance in silverware. He only had to perform against Chile (so you understand how small they are, 3 people died celebrating a Copa America). Many people would have hailed him as the GOAT, even though winning a Copa America of which we have 14 already doesn't mean much.

Not only he doesn't perform, that's okay, another bad day. Not only he doesn't score, it's okay, 11 KO games without scoring, but it's okay, he's still good. Not only he doesn't assist, it's okay, it's your team mates right? They are your friends Messi, you sacked Tevez, you asked for Higuain and Aguero. But okay, we get it, you didn't assist.

On top of all that, he doesn't even run. He just walks the pitch. Fuck him.

>>76011724
based hue

>>76011724
Wew

>>76011724
>"we"

>>76012154
>"wuz"

>>76010713
> man marked
> walk to draw attention away
> expecting team to fill in all the gaps left by 3 people marking you
> they do fucking nothing
> ?????
> No Trophy

>>76009357
>talented
They are about to not qualify to Russia because the manlet hasn't played all the games with them. They even lost 0-2 against >us at Buenos Aires.

>>76012154
He's a gaúcho from the border.

>>76012154
>nosostros

>>76010895
thats so deep m8

>>76011724

>Argentina with spoiled system-babby Messy and useless meme coach Sampaoli now

This is gonna be the funniest moment.

>>76011003

Actually Messi scored but they said was offside

>>76009357
We don't really have good players, besides Messi we are Poland-tier

Belgium, France, Spain, Germany, Italy, England, Brazil, Colombia, Portugal, Croatia, and Holland all have better teams than us and we still do better than most of them

>>76009262

The World Cup is 7 games. There isn't even enough time for the players to start breaking down. See Chile

>tfw you will never see Scocco get called up again
1 cap, 2 goals.

>>76017480
He only got called because the Martino was the manager and both are from Newell's

>>76010713

>Marked Man
>Have three people MINIMUM on his manlet ass
>Means open spaces
>He is expecting his teammates to take advantage.

I guess it is his fault for expecting his teammates, some of the worlds best players, to actually take advantage of the situation....

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>>76009232
>HEAD LIKE A F-n ORANGE

>>76010940
LOL

>>76011159
Clinton was 4 years in office and Obama 8, Trump has been in office for 4 months

>>76009232
>tfw he could have been ours but the FA decided to be retarded

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>>76009357
Its called LeMissi missing penalty kicks

Or it could be pic related

>>76010940
delet this

>>76009357
>talented team
more like a team made of talented men because the team itself sucks

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>>76020166
Let me tell you a secret

Alelsis isn't the only one with a stiffy. They all have raging hard-ons.