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Who was in the wrong here?
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no one. he did what any passionate player would have done and he paid the appropriate price
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I remember /sp/ was full of Americans going B-B BUT HE CHEATED!!!! IT'S NOT RIGHT

>it was 7 years ago

jesus christ
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Honestly this is what made me like Suarez.
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>>75956708

>muh passion

fuck off.

i hope someone passionately breaks rato's fucking face and pays the appropriate price
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>>75956757

ah, you would have let the ball fly in...right?
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I would have done the same la
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>tfw you will never sacrifice yourself for your country and be considered a national hero whilst simultaneously making an entire continent mad as fuck and forever be portrayed as an enemy of football

It's an abstract kind of feel. Suarez did nothing wrong.
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>>75956778

i would've tried stopping it legally, and if i failed i would've accepted the fact that we're now 1-2

there are rules to the game for a reason. again, i hope a "passionate player" breaks his fucking legs

stupid spics
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>>75956676
the referees that gave away the free kick leading to this incident
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>>75956858
pecho frio
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>>75956858
But he got punished for it so what's the problem? If a goalkeeper made a bad pass and had to hand the ball outside the box to make up for it would you want him hurt to?
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>>75956728
Are you implying he didn't?
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>>75956894
CHI
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>>75956857
He's like.. Me? I did nothing!

03:37

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDpx9GGH79I
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>>75956935
>all those Ghana players celebrating before the penalty has been kicked
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>>75956894

not an argument

>>75956898

he turned a clear goal into a mini-game. red card isn't enough of a punishment. ratking should've been banned from the rest of the tournament

people forget how scummy this shit was only because uruguay ended up winning. had ghana won the match, everyone would look at him like the piece of shit he is, and rightfully so
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>>75956858
Cuck
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>>75956898
The punishment isn't exactly fair for Ganha, is it? A guaranteed goal for a chance of goal + a red card in the last minute?

How is that fair?
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>>75956979

your father raised you wrong. end your life at once

>>75957013

life isn't fair, fuckboy. you ain't cheatin, you ain't tryin
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>had ghana won the match, everyone would look at him like the piece of shit he is, and rightfully so

spot on m8
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>>75957013
But that's how it always it. Foul in the box = penalty. If you want to change the rules then that's fine but as the rules are now there was nothing more the ref could do
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>>75956992
>>75957024

not an argument

again, i hope someone breaks his legs out of >muh passion
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>>75957024
Well, the game should be.
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>>75957046

> someone did something and got punished for it. i demand that they be punished further for no other reason than to satisfy my pitiful impotent rage!

> sh-sh...shut up! not an argument! not an argument! wahhhh!!
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>>75957045
No discussion about that. It just that the law can punish, but can't forbid.

It's like murder or something. The killer will be punished, but you won't have the life back, so what's the matter?

Yes I'm implying that ratking is the killer here.
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>>75956979
>>75957031

same thing with maradona

>lol remember when that stupid spic manlet tried to score with his hand? what a retard

but he got away with it, so now its "muh hand of god". fucking dirty spics
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>>75957071
Ghana would be the first african country to ever play a wc semifinal.

Let's be honest, no one cares about uruguay, but ghana playing a semifinal in their own continent, oh that would be awesome.
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>>75956757
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if you claim that you wouldn't have done the same thing, you're either a self-loathing liar or a pathetic cuckboi
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>>75957096
>implying most people would have that reaction

you have to be a piece shit for even thinking about that

remember, you have less than one second
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>>75957064
This

Anyone that says otherwise is a cuck that dreams about the big black cock ravaging his wife
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>>75957125

> you have to be a piece of shit for wanting what's best for your team

brasil, ladies and gentlemen...
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>>75957125
Stop embarrassing brazil you fucking faggot
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>>75957185
>arguments: 0
>shitposts: 1

try better next time m8
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>>75957202

i responded to you before your countryman with a valid counterpoint

care to respond to that?
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>>75956728
I was going for urgay cause I hated Ghana and their shitty way of play after they knocked out the US.

I absolutely loved this play.
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>>75957217
what is fairplay
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>>75957223

i'm with you in terms of pulling for ghana to lose

but bro we absolutely deserved the L...if for nothing else, simply for putting michael fucking bradley in a uniform
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>>75957250

that does absolutely nothing to address the fact that what he did was best for his team

try again
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>>75957270
I suppose you don't mind a little biting too, right?
Everything to help the team...
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>>75957270

>he did was best for his team

not an argument.

your rival team should send a hit squad to snuff out your team's best player. it's whats best for them, right?
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>>75957202
So you want an argument, huh? Then let's go:

The rules as it stand back then determined that if someone commited a foul in a clear chance, he should be sent off and the foul given to the opposing team. Therefore, he NEVER broke the law of the game, he choose to exchange the certain goal for a penalty plus a red card.

TL;DR: you're a fucking faggot
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>>75956676
No goal should count unless the ball actually goes into the net
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He did what anyone would have done playing for their country in a big tournament. I think you fail to understand this point because you are American and:
A. You don't have international tournaments in your 'sports' so don't understand the passion and desire
B. The team based ratking did it against is black, and your entire country loves the BBC
C. You are such a faggot you don't understand about winning at all costs and wanting to succeed no matter the cost
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>>75957293

>heh, nah i didn't "break the law", i merely exchanged my freedom for some forced sex with underage virgin pussy

this is what terminal autism looks like
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>>75956676
The nigger who missed the penalty kick. Suarez committed a foul and was rightfully punished by being sent off. If the penalty was converted we wouldn't even be having this conversation
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>>75957289

absolutely. everyone knows chiellini's a cunt anyway

>>75957291

we're talking about decisions inside a game here, bud. try to keep up
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>>75957289
>>75957291
There is a difference between injuring a player and a handball on the line. No one is hurt with a handball on the line, there is no victim. Don't be upset that Suarez managed to game the system to help his team win, you should be upset at Gyan for missing a simple penalty.
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>>75957314

...except we all pointed out that he did break the rules

better learn to read m8, it's an important skill in life
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>>75957347

i'm answering the Brazilian, not you. re-read his post

better learn to read m8, etc etc
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>>75957314
If you believe human beings is able to weight the pros and cons of their decisions, than yeah, that's exactly what it is. The terminology is what's wrong.
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>>75956676
probably the only thing i like about him
>taking a red to give your team a chance knowing that even IF they qualify to the semi final of a world cup you cant play in it
based desu
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>>75957370
Are*
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- striker in the last minute goes into the area, pass the goalkeeper is going to shoot and the goalkeeper tackle him from behind and foul the striker before he can score...goalkeeper gets a red card and a penalty for the other team. The other team changes a player for the goalkeeper sub and he stops the penalty.
Is this cheating?
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>>75957314
>heh, nah my punishment was very fair, no one liked that bitch anyway
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>>75956676
Fucile was going for it too. Don't know why Suarez gets grilled so much for that.
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>>75957500

nope. it's dirty, but so is shorting stocks

you play to win the game
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>>75957582
It's a game, not a war m8.
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>>75957347
>...except we all pointed out that he did break the rules

see >>75957293
>herefore, he NEVER broke the law of the game

ayyy
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>>75957605
If we go with strict use of the norm you have at least 30 times the rules broken in every game with every foul, handball, offside, dive, etc. etc.
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>>75957647
No one is arguing against that, Boludo. We're just pointing out that even with the punishment this isn't fair and that Suarez is a dirty cunt.
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>>75956858
you gotta cheat to win
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>>75957669
>choke penalty in the last minute
>WAAAAH IT ISN'T FAIR
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I love how everybody conveniently forgets that this play started from a fictitious free kick & the Ghana player who headed the ball was off-side
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>>75957711
>guaranteed goal for a penalty is fair
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>>75957736
wtf it's opposite
>a penalty for a guaranteed goal is fair*
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>>75957736
It wasn't guaranteed. There was a hand on your way :^)
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>>75957736
The ball didn't cross the line, therefore it wasn't a guaranteed goal. If your team is too shit to score a penalty then you don't deserve to go through (trust me on this one, check my flag)
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>>75957779
kek true.
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>>75957669
but is fair, is what whoever made the rule intended to be the fair punishment and whoever play the game knows will happen and accept it as fair.

Is the same discussion when a team won because scores more goals but the other team "play better" and "deserved to win" so it was "not fair" that the team that lose had to lose. May or be not fair but is how the game is.
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>>75957799
Well, I could agree with you.
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>>75957799
b-b-but they are black and they wanted to go to semifinals
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>>75956676
>miss the penalty
>'b-but suarez is a bully'
fuck off faggot, suarez got punished for what he did
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>>75957785

> trust me on this one, check my flag
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>>75956676
Africans get fucked.

Just a reminder that in this same play there were 2 offsides before Suarez hand.

Just a reminder that the play only exists because a Ghana player dived 3 meters away from Fucile and got a foul since Ghana was the only african team left.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lknta50H5S4

Fucking niggers were cheating the entire game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnCKSDR3K8c
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>>75957311
It's fucking stupid because the same shit happens in our sports all the time anyway

>receiver about to break open for a touchdown
>defender grabs him and takes the pass interference penalty (or maybe even just a holding penalty) to avoid giving up the touchdown

>player about to get a breakaway in hockey
>defender intentionally commits a penalty (assuming he does so without making it a penalty shot) and other team only gets a power play out of it
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>>75958674
Also in Basketball when someone could make a 3pt so a defender intentionally fouls
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The fact that this actually happened is making me want to learn about soccer.
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>>75956676
oh look, another 7 year old thread
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>>75958325
Go to sleep ratto
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>>75959700

it was a beautiful moment

the hopes of a tiny african nation dashed all at once thanks to the hands of a national savior
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>>75956935
>Suarez at 04:11

Holy shit
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This is really good pleb filter
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>>75956676
The Goalkeeper.
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>>75956979
>ratking should've been banned from the rest of the tournament

But that's precisely what a straight red in the quarter final means.
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>>75957289
Nice photoshop in case anybody was taken in by it.

Chiellini didn't even have a bite mark.
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>>75961843
Eh he had some red spots where you could see where pressure was applied by suarez teeth.
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Well, they literally changed the rules because of this, so I guess they are retroactively wrong, but at the time, they just exploited a void in the rules, so that's more debatable.
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>>75961843
>in case anybody was taken in by it

nah everyone thought that the mask was 100% real too
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>>75957071
It's not the same. Hand of god was a clear rule violation that was only allowed because of referee's negligence. What happened with Suarez went exactly how it had to go. The debate is about if it should've go that way to begin with.
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>>75963092
T H I S
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>>75956676
Suarez handballed it, he got a red card, and Ghana were awarded a penalty.
There is no one in the wrong here.
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>>75963092
What happens if someone does the same thing these days?
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That foul shouldn't been called off to begin with, and I think one of the niggers in that play is offside (although this is from memory and I can be wrong).

Also, I know my country has gained quite the reputation of always cover itself with the victim complex and 'muh fifa conspiracy', but that said that match against Ghana and the next one against Netherlands were full of awful calls, 90% of the time at Uruguay's expense, but no one brings that out.
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>>75956676

The rat king dindu nuffin.
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>>75956917
people like that mongol think its a tactical move thats part of the game. can you believe that retarded shit?

suarez respects winning more than he respects soccer and that for true soccer fans is disgusting
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>>75956935

>those vuvuzalas

I do not miss that shit.
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>>75964843

what's it like having no soul whatsoever?
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>>75957595
In the end all what matter is what is remembered
Italia, how many WC?
>4, but they cheated their first 2
England, how many WC?
>1, and don't even get me started on how they got it
Argentina, how many WC?
>2, but cheated the first
Germany, how many WC?
>4, cheated the first too
France, how many WC?
>1, and poisoned Ronaldo to get it
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It was one of the most interesting moments of this decade of fooball, it made people realize that you CAN break rules on purpose for personal gain. People always did and will do that, but they never stopped to actually consider the weight behind it, and whenever they think about a criminal it's always a murderer, or thief, or essentially someone who is different and often it's a romanticized figure. Suarez instead took the petty "crime" of you line jumping and elevated it showing it to the world.
This is what art is btw.

Obviously people chimped out because they can't handle having their convictions challenged.
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>>75965105
Our second was legit
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>>75957379
rato's save before the handball is pretty based
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>>75965161
I remember reading you had shady ways to get it.
However, a WC is too important and prestigious of a trophy to not try anything and everything to get one.
Better be the bad guys who win rather than the good guys who lose (Germany v. Netherlands 1974, Germany v. France 1982)
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>Deny a clear goal scoring opportunity, in this case a certain goal
>Be appropriately punished according to the rules of the game
>"Hurr cheating cunt hope someone breaka his legs the fucking spic"
Lets be honest, if it meant giving your nation the chance to get to a WC semi final we'd all do the exact same thing. Not saying its right but you would.
Remember too that Ghana missed the penalty and then lost on penalties. They still had a great chance to win it and they bottled it.
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>>75965105
So we are the good guys?
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>>75966244
Yes. Everybody tried to give a career-ending injury to your Pelé in the '60s, and you deserved the 1994 and 2002 wins.
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>>75966244
Pretty much

also, check the date huebro
>05, but 1-7/1-7
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>>75956858
KEK.

>i would've accepted the fact that we're now 1-2
You would accept the fact your wife love bbc, just coz muh good guy follow the rules. Tyrone likes your cuck way of thinking.

He follow the rules, he was punished, nigga failed his penalty.
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>>75956979
>>75957013
You're blaming the rules, not the player. Everything here was done under the current rules.

Are you retarded or baiting? Think correctly ffs.
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>>75957125
>you have to be a piece shit for even thinking about that
Maybe this explain 7 - 1
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>>75956676

I drew Uruguay in a kind of pool thing me and my mates were doing for this world cup so I was supporting them the whole time.

When Gyan missed the penalty and it showed Suarez celebrating in the tunnel area I was just laughing my head off.

It made that world cup so much more enjoyable for me, I imagine it's what it would feel like to actually care about England.
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>>75956708
fpbp

Bit surprising that it comes from that flag, but still
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>>75966430
maybe this explain those 5 (five) wc's.
maybe this explain that 4-1 at centenario.

be mad, luis. be very mad.
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>>75956676
The ball for striking Suarez's hands
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>>75966471
>maybe this explain those 5 (five) wc's
None of those incredible players would think your stupid way. This thinking is nowadays brasil, and so 7 - 1.

You're embarassing the great past legends, which i respect to much.
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>>75966515
enlight me on this, luis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z0K27N9Igs
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>>75966471
>maybe this explain that 4-1 at centenario
This is explained by two things.

1. Uruguay is shit now. We're probably out of wc.

2. Tite is not a cuck, like you. I'm totally sure tite would put his hands there, and you fuckink know it.
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>>75966520
Check second post retard. I have tottaly done my job with you, my brazilian cuck boi.
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>>75966532
>Tite is not a cuck, like you.

It's the opposite. Tite doesn't like to play dirty, like your country. He got into a fight with Arce (the paraguayan coach) because of that.

And that's why we're going to win the sixth while you watch you country lose at respechaje at home.
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>>75966545
>He got into a fight with Arce (the paraguayan coach) because of that.

I forgot to say that it was in the last game, where Paraguai was playing Uruguay mode.
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>>75966545
So you're saying tite is a cuck coz he thinks the same as you?

Well done.
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>>75956894
HAHA btfo
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>that cheeky penalty kick from el Loco Abreu
The absolute madmen
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>>75956935
>dat Suarez double goal line save
>dem Muslera clutch penalty stops after being exposed in the game
>dem niggas choking hard
>dat loco Abreu winning panenka
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>>75963715
The ref is allowed to call it a goal. Not only in this situations, imagine if the ball stopped in the goalline because of the pitch status, or a dog get into the pitch and saved a shot. If the ref is 100% the ball was going inside, he is allowed to call it a goal.
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Everyone always remembers this game but I don't know why nobody ever rates the the next game Uruguaya played against the Netherlands?

Man oh man that was amongst the best I've watched. It was absolutely amazing, extremely brutal. Just one of the best games I've watched.
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>>75968439
No ref is going to do this.
- a beachball
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>>75968439
So could he have called it a goal instead? Was he racist?
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>>75956858
"legally" what the fuck this isn't court. he committed a penalty, not broke the law, and was penalized correctly. any other discussion is of moral nature, not legal.
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It was a fantastic moment. People forget (or don't care) that Ghana scored after 5 minutes of extra time against the USA, and spent the next 25 rolling around on the ground. There should have been 15 minutes of stoppage time on the extra time. So it was very sweet to see them outcheated.
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>>75956935
>Meme ball wobbling all over the place on both goals
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>Attacker runs past defender and is nearly through on goal
>Defender pulls attacker back and gets yellow carded
>Gets called 'a professional foul'
>El Rato, our lord and saviour deliberately stops a certain goal, knowing he'll get a red card which he does and they'll get a penalty
>El Rato commits a professional foul and gets vilified for it because Africans can't penuldy
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>>75956676
>handball
>redcard
right

>game-clinching penalty kick
>miss it
wrong

Gyan is the only one wrong here, Suarez commited an infraction and was sanctioned accordingly. Gyan had to make that PK, he fucked up.
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