/f1/ general - Formula 1 discussion - all smiles edition

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pole for anime

>>75939454
2nd for KYS

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*th for hoping Italians get their pasta together and stop making strategy mistakes.

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>>75939464
Calm it lad

do you think vettel and hamilton have ever had conversations about how much they cucked alonso?

To a guy who knows shit about F1, the problem Alonso or his car?

>>75939495
the engine is JUST tier

>>75939495
The car.

>be Alonso
>obsessed with your "legacy" to the point you unironically have your own "Alonso Museum"
>get humiliated by Hamilton
>get cucked by Vettel
>need team orders to beat Massa
>fail to bring Ferrari back to greatness
>fail to being McLaren-Honda back to greatness
>legacy in tatters
>so desperate to have "career achievements" that you do the Indy500
>this will prove you're as good as Alexander Rossi

>>75939495
car
although he did make same unfortunate decisions in his career and being a toxic cunt in 2007 didn't help either

>>75939470
DELETE THIS

>>75939483
Hey that's the cart I posted to predict the McLaren livery during the off season.

Your all right mate.

>>75939495
Both, the car is sub par and down on power but Alonso has had enough of trying to develop it and wait for it to be good. imo he shouldn't be kicking up a stink but I can understand why.

lewlew or vetlel to indy when?

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>>75939515
>>75939506
>>75939507

Feel bad for him tbqh.

>>75939515
>being a toxic cunt in 2007

>get sabotaged by your own team multiple times over the year
>somehow it is his fault that he reacted in a natural human way

>>75939556
he didn't get sabotaged, he actually scored more points than Hamilton in the second half when the relationship went to the shitter

>>75939544

Don't, he's a massive cunt.

>participated in fixed races
>blackmailed his teams for superior equipment
>questioned the talent of driver who beat him, instead of being a gracious loser
>thinks trying to publicly "humiliate Honda" at every opportunity will make them build a better engine

>>75939580
right, because they stopped sabotaging him after stories started leaking.Enough damage had already been done unfortunately.

>>75939580
not that I feel like defending McLaren, especially Ron Dennis was a control freak who deserved to get BTFO at every endeavour he takes part in

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Nth for Lewis Hamilton is going to win the 2017 Worldc Hampionship

>>75939619
If digits Hamilton never wins another race.

Reminder that Rob Smedley said that Alonso is the best driver OF ALL TIME.

>turn on tour of california stream
>immediately see marcel kittel basically dying

I should just go back to bed

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>>75939639
Sucks for you lad

>>75939664
>>>/sp/cyc

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what is daniil thinking

Let's play a game. What do you think the next engine formula will look like?

Here's my guess. Twin-turbo V8 hybrids.

I doubt they will get rid of the hybrid stuff since cars are increasingly using that shit these days.

>>75939765
"hmmm..."

>>75939772
1L inline 3 hybrids.

>>75939772
A shit load of gerbils

>>75939765
"cyka blyat xaxaxaxaxa ))))"

>>75939772
4 cylinder twin turbo hybrid

>>75939772
1.5 silindar 0.2 liter quadturbo hydrogen fuel cell engine

>>75939765
who the fuck is choco schumis dad, guy has an unreal jawline

>>75939772
>V8

it's gonna be twin turbo V6, remove the MGU-H but keep the MGU-K and more deployment

>>75939806
Richard Wehrlein, former boxer, owner of a CNC machining company, BLEACHer and all-around alpha

>>75939827
>BLEACHer

cancer*

ftfy

>>75939827

t. Richard Wehrlein

>>75939789
>>75939804
I hope not
>>75939790
Yes, I like this
>>75939805
Well at least you're thinking outside of the box
>>75939820
Says who?
I mean I read this story which makes the case that, yes, they will get rid of the MGU-H, and increase the deployment of the MGU-K: https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/tech-analysis-f1-s-engine-options-past-2020-889758/

But why not make them V8s since FOM seem to actively be targeting "noise" as one of their criteria? Yes getting rid of the MGU-H will improve the noise, but still, they should bring back V8s 2bh famalam

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>>75939859
here

>>75939859
Why do you hate Glock?

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>>75939857
Finally got a (you) that wasn't you being a grumpy sod

>>75939897
probably because he helped hamilton beat massa

>>75939907
t. retard

>>75939922
but it's true

>>75939857
>But why not make them V8s
1) Manufacturers don't want them
2) Technologically extinct
3) They sounded shit anyway, they might have been loud but the actual sound they put out was atrocious.
4) Manufacturers don't want them
5) Awful torque bands
6) Renault, Mercedes and Honda have unequivocally stated that they will leave F1 if they return to V8s
7) No, really
8) They sounded shit
9) If you wanna go full retard MUH NOIZE I DONT WANT EARDRUMS ANYMOOR, go for a fucking V10
10) Increasing the fuel flow limit would increase the RPM and therefore make the engines scream. No need to add moar cilindarz just because you think they add 10 decibels

>>75940002
want to back that up with facts

>>75940003
>3) They sounded shit anyway, they might have been loud but the actual sound they put out was atrocious.

Fucking this.

>>75940002
he didn't help, the fact that Toyota was struggling on the wet tyres and that Glock as in front of him at the time it was wet help Hamilton
Glock was still quicker than Trulli in that phase of the race

>>75939899
I'm not grumpy

>>75940003
>manufacturers don't want them
I'm not saying they should go back to the old naturally aspirated V8s, I'm saying why not just add two cylinders to the current turbo hybrid engines.

Also the old ones sounded awesome.

>>75940022
Glock was on slicks and Hamilton passed him with ease on the wet track on intermediates. The strategy to stay on slicks moved him way up in position and he finished higher up than if he had also pitted. If he wanted Hamilton to win he would have just pitted as well so that Hamilton was still ahead of him. Glock had the same final lap time as his team mate on the same strategy indicating he didn't slow.
Glock literally didn't have a say in if Hamilton passed him or not on way quicker inters 2bh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4LMm5PXVRU

guise this video is undeniable PROOF glock helped hamilton, look at him intentionally slowing down to let hamilton win, fucking rigged!!!

>>75940175
>slipping and sliding all over the place on slicks
He was just doing skids for fun stalling for Hamilton!
UNDESERVING CHAMP REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

@75940038
No (You) since you didn't even read the read my post beyond the first line. I'll break it down nice and simply for you so it permeates your skull and sticks in your grey matter instead of going straight out of your ears.

V8 engines are at a technological dead end. The manufacturers are, slowly but surely, abandoning them. Except the inbred luxury supercar market who only car about POWERRRRRRR because they're philistines. They take up more space than a V6. They're heavier than a V6. They're less efficient than a V6. They're not inherently noiser than a V6. They have feeble torque bands. They're becoming less and less relevant to road cars.

If F1 forcibly brings back V8s, Mercedes, Honda and Renault will pull out because of the above reasons, and the sport will be left with just Ferrari unless Cosworth can be convinced to rejoin. Maybe BMW will make a return, as they have a corporate philosophy of never making a V6 engine, but that's about as likely as McLaren-Honda ever winning a race.

>Also the old ones sounded awesome.
You have objectively shit taste

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>>75940175
DELET NOW

>>75939495
mix of a really shit tier car and lack of motivation... so he is trying to get it in other categories and I wouldn't be surprised if he goes to burgerland or DTM for good

>>75940217
This is a truthbomb

>>75940217
SUOMALAINEN NAILED IT!

@75940217
I did read the rest of it and you repeated the same three or so fucking points over and over again you dumb fuck

>V8s are a dead end
>they're less relevant to road cars
Tell that to McLaren - every one of their cars has a twin-turbo V8 in it
Tell that to Ferrari - the 488 has a twin-turbo V8 in it
Tell that to Porsche - the 918 has a V8 in it (naturally aspirated in that case)

Jesus if you're going to come up with an argument at least make it one that isn't so easily debunked.

>they're not inherently noisier than a V6
How? More cylinders = more vibrations = more sound.
Do you think that a single cylinder moped engine is just as loud as a V12 then?

>forcibly
I'm not saying forcibly mate, I just don't accept your arguments that the manufacturers hate them as much as you think they do - especially since they literally all use V8s in their road cars.

>he doesn't like how the V8s sounded
Utter, utter pleb. They sounded better than the current ones.

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>>75940339
>>75940383
Wow yeah such a truth bomb, none of the manufacturers are using V8s anymore!

OH WAIT

>b-b-b-but those cars are a couple years old now!
The McLaren 720 was literally just released and still uses a V8.

Has a single Ferrari ever used a V6? I mean fucking seriously.

Oh yeah and the Merc AMG GT, their latest flagship halo car, uses a twin-turbo V8.

But yeah, the V8 is totally dead bro!

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>>75940419
That is pretty cheeky mate. Will the rest of us continue to receive (you)s as normal?

>>75940530
Yes, don't worry lad, you shall be nourished with (You)s

while we're still on topic do these turbos produce enough boost to eat through fuel as fast as higher displacement/moar silindars or have the teams looked into a solution for this?

>>75940419
>McLaren
>not an engine supplier to F1
>Porsche
>not an engine supplier to F1 or even in talks to become one
>other than inbred luxury cars
Give you Ferrari but they have pretty much always asked for more cylinders but that's in the luxury car category.

>implied all the Engine suppliers use and want V8's
Mercedes wanted less cylinders than we currently have, they are firmly on the less side of the fence. So are Renault and Honda 2bh, given all their number of cars over 4 cylinders. The only reason we have V6's is because Ferrari threatened to leave.

The V8's did sound pretty bad lad
>>75940451
Of the current engine suppliers
>1 wants more cylinders
>1 wants less even though they have cars with more and have said they will leave if it goes up
>2 haven't really been vocal as the first 2 but hardly have any cars over 4 cylinders

Hmmmm V8's aren't dead though, not like Supercars are moving away from them as well either...

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Why are Formula E drivers so much more manly than F1 drivers?

>>75940577
This is encouraging news. Thank you and please do enjoy your repeating digits. In fact I call on everyone to take a moment to congratulate these dubs

Who gives a fuck what companies use in their entry level road cars? Road relevance is shit and needs to be removed from the sport.

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>>75940624
Why am I sat in bed with a miniature beer barrel?

>>75940708
Because you're a man with solid priorities.

>>75940640
Pretty much every racing series is moving away from 8 or larger cylinder engines other than MUH POWER American series.
V8's are a thing of the past at this point 2bh, more and more cars are coming out with smaller cheaper engines and are competitive vs the V8's

>>75940618
>Mercedes wanted less cylinders than we currently have
Source? I thought all the manufacturers objected to FOM's I4 plans, they wanted something bigger for the spectacle.

>The only reason we have V6's is because Ferrari threatened to leave.
I've just been reading any article I can find about it and they all say "the manufacturers" didn't like the idea of I4s, not just Ferrari

>Hmmmm V8's aren't dead though, not like Supercars are moving away from
Yeah that must be why all these cars, all released in the last couple of years, all use them:
McLaren 720
Ferrari 488
Mercedes AMG GT
McLaren P1
Porsche 918

Also you're saying "why would Renault and Honda want lots of cylinders when their cars don't have big engines". Well then surely you could say that about the V10 era? Why were they in the sport then, if - by your logic - they only have a desire to build engines of the exact configuration that they're going to put into their road cars?

Your logic there doesn't make sense. Neither of those companies were running V10s in their road cars at the time, as far as I'm aware.

The FIA have stated that one of their explicit goals for the new engines is that they be "noisier". The teams want that too. Mercedes have said they want that. And the FIA want "to maintain high power levels", and "to allow drivers to drive harder at all times". So why the hell wouldn't they consider V8s? They are explicitly looking for more noise, and yes getting rid of the MGU-H will do that to an extent, but why not whack on some cylinders too? It seems ludicrous to me that they wouldn't even consider it.

Quotes from this: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/128744

>>75940625
Thanks mate, I shall savour them like a fine wine.

>>75940708
May as well have a pint mate, it'd be rude not to.

>>75940890
The FIA have specifically said they want more noise for the new engines. AND the teams are saying they want something cheaper and simpler. Just whack in a twin-turbo V8, bit o' KERS, bob's your uncle.

>>75939859
>he jumped off the williams bandwagon
customer detected

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>mfw nobody answers my fucking question

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You all make me very proud.

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>>75941129
Already on 3rd lad. Think this little fella is on last few drops though. New home will be in next doors skip tomorrow morning

>>75940604
>>75941149
Why would they want to eat through fuel? They're trying to save fuel mate.

Or are you talking about 2020? Are you saying they should increase the boost on the turbo and use more fuel to make the engine louder and more powerful to increase the spectacle 'n' shiet? Instead of higher displacement / more silindars as a solution to those problems?

Also can I ask, are you genuinely Bahamian? Are you black for one thing?

>>75941183
Nice. What's the occasion anyway? Or you just fancied a keg on a random Monday night?

>>75941293
Someone left a few of them after barbecue at weekend so as you said would be rude not to have a little drink

>>75941293
>Why would they want to eat through fuel? They're trying to save fuel mate.
I know theyre trying to save fuel but I'm asking if these turbos produce enough boost to the point where the ECU (or whatever) has to shove some more fuel in those silindars to keep the poor engine from running to hot and detonating and I'm wondering if this in turn makes their fuel efficiency the same or only very slightly better than a higher displacement/ayt silindar engine

>Also can I ask, are you genuinely Bahamian? Are you black for one thing?
yes, yes

>>75941172
new government is in, please add roaches to the house

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>>75939859

>>75941345
Ah fair enough. You're more sociable than I am. I haven't seen mates in months, not even joking. I should probably do something about that.

>>75941358
>I know theyre trying to save fuel but I'm asking if these turbos produce enough boost to the point where the ECU (or whatever) has to shove some more fuel in those silindars to keep the poor engine from running to hot and detonating and I'm wondering if this in turn makes their fuel efficiency the same or only very slightly better than a higher displacement/ayt silindar engine
Perhaps I'm misunderstanding you again, but why would they turn up the boost that far? The whole point of the turbo is for fuel efficiency. They're just forcing in a bit more air with the fuel for a bigger bang. They're not forcing in SO much air that the mixture is too lean, like you describe. Why would they do that?

The current engines are definitely more efficient than the higher displacement, more cylindered engines of before.

As I say maybe I'm misunderstanding you. I am a noob on mechanics by the way, I don't really know what I'm talking about, beyond a rudimentary understanding.

>Also can I ask, are you genuinely Bahamian? Are you black for one thing?
>yes, yes
Damn. Do you support Hamilton then since he has ancestry from the Caribbean also? You should do.

>>75940640
You must remember that for years, F1 was the main "R&D dept" for street cars. We use many things coming from there, such as ABS brakes, honeycomb reinforced structures, active suspension system, sequential shifting and many other things. The latest big dev F1 gave to street cars was KERS, which are used on eletric and hybrid cars to reduce battery comsumption and giving an extra boost by using braking energy.

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>>75941711
>They're not forcing in SO much air that the mixture is too lean, like you describe.
This is what I wanted to know, thanks.

>Damn. Do you support Hamilton then since he has ancestry from the Caribbean also? You should do.
I could care less about where Hamilton's great^7 grandfathers from, ricky is /myguy/

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>>75941711
Ah you see less & less of mates over time anyway as shit goes on. Only really speak with them on phone mostly as no-ones time lines up proper to watch races or anything like that nowadays. Just save bit of time for stuff & be happy with family life I guess or something. Just don't go full HAM

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>>75939859
I really cannot be fucked to fill all this in, so this will have to do:

>Current favourite driver
Hamilton
>Current drivers you like
Kimi, Bottas, Ricciardo, Alonso, I guess Max (but I'd rather Ric did well right now). Also Massa. And Grosjean.
>Current drivers you hate
Vettel
>Current favourite team
I support Mercedes because of Hamilton really, but if I could pick any team to be the frontrunner it would be McLaren.
>Current teams you like
Williams. Red Bull are okay. Renault are cool, I hope they do a bit better. Sauber are cool too, I want them to do better. I guess I like seeing any of the underdog teams pull of some good results, Force India and Toro Rosso and Haas as well.
>Current teams you hate
Ferrari.
>All time favourite drivers
David Coulthard. Damon Hill. Nigel Mansell. And Kimi Raikkonen, why not.
>All time drivers you don't like but respect
I think Mika's a bit of a wanker but he was a good driver.
>All time drivers you hate
Schumacher. Vettel.
>All time favourite teams
McLaren.
>All time favourite car
Williams FW14B
>All time favourite helmets
I like Coulthard's. But also Lewis's have been cool too - I especially liked the white/red ones he used for 2014 - 2016 and I think he should have kept that design.

>>75941820
>ABS, active suspension, sequential gearboxes and KERS all came from F1
...did they?
I mean sequential gearboxes are used in lots of other racing too, did they definitely come from F1?
And with KERS - well hybrid cars, which obviously use a battery for energy, predated F1 using KERS, did they not? The Prius came out in the mid-2000s.

>>75941837
Hamilton's grandparents (his dad's parents) are from Grenada. Which is why Lewis' dad is black.

>>75941881
I'm mid 20s though, I really should fucking socialise more, it's my own fault for isolating myself 2bh

>>75940451
>Has Ferrari ever used a V6?
Yes. The 246 exists. Also one of the most beautiful cars in existence.

>>75942278
>a Dino from 40 years ago is one of the only Ferraris to use a V6
That's exactly my point.

Who knows maybe they will stick with V6s in 2020, but since they are talking about noise and power, why wouldn't they consider a V8? And the arguments that the V8 is dead are absolutely ludicrous to me. If anything the V8 is having a fucking renaissance, since lots of supercars are now using them. These are cars that might have had V10s or V12s in years past. Although the V12 is far from dead also, look at the LaFerrari, the Aston Martin DB11, the new Ferrari 812. Sure, I don't expect to see V12s back in F1 anytime soon (unfortunately), but they still exist and are still being put in new cars. So I just don't buy this argument that certain engine configurations are "dying out", it just sounds like utter bullshit.

Speaking of the DB11, they're going to release a cheaper version of that with a Mercedes twin-turbo V8 in it. Hey look, it's yet another modern supercar with a V8! So much for the death of the V8 I guess!

>>75941670
>no hamilton in the hated part

retard

>>75942653
Why would I hate Hamilton? His legacy isn't with McLaren and if I was going to be racist I wouldnt've put Pascal in the liked drivers section

>>75942626
the V6's would scream if they were naturally aspirated and weren't fucked into having to reduce the rev limit

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how many of you F1 only guys are gonna watch the Indy 500 after Monaco GP is done because Alonso?

>Marco Andretti gets fastest speed in practice for the second year in a row
>will inevitably fail during the race as usual because Andretti Curse

if you aren't watching for Alonso, at least join us in watching and laughing at the absolute failure named Marco Andretti

>>75943262
>if you aren't watching for Alonso, at least join us in watching and laughing at the absolute failure named Marco Andretti
>Marco

*Michael

Also to bolster my V8 argument against the naysayers. Twin-turbo V8s especially seem to be all the rage right now. McLaren, Ferrari, Mercedes are all using them in their cars. Ferrari switched from using naturally aspirated V8s for fucking ages in their "baby" / mass market line - 458, F430, 360, F355, 348, 328 - having put a twin-turbo V8 in the 488. In fact I think it's the first time that the main version of their "baby" car has been turbocharged.

>>75943115
>the V6's would scream if they were naturally aspirated
Not as much as a V8 would though.

I just think V6s are a bit wimpy for F1, and I think that's exactly what the FIA and the teams want to solve - they have heard the message loud and clear that fans are bit uninspired by the current formula. Toto has talked in the past about the importance of putting on a good show. And like I say, the FIA have explicitly said that noise is one of their objectives in the new engine (lower cost and increased simplicity being other ones).

>3 of the current F1 engine suppliers hardly have a car over 6 Cylinders
>the manufacturer looking to join hardly has a car over 6 cylinders
>Ferrari love more cylinders
>Ferrari will have their way and we will move to backwards to V8's because some British autist can't see that in racing almost every series is moving towards smaller less cylinder engines

You have to go back to 2015 for LMP1 to have a V8 and that's only 1 out of 6 cars
The year before that had 2 of 6
The year before that had 3 of 4

But no the V8 isn't dying out.

Supercars has its first non V8 entries next year, the first year they are available teams are jumping to smaller engines, funny that. But no the V8 isn't dying because expensive niche supercars still have more cylinders.

>>75943402
>But no the V8 isn't dying out.

As long as Americans are fat, they'll need V8 torque to get around.

>>75943365
at least Michael won often in CART/IRL despite his complete failure at McLaren in F1.

his son Marco can't even do well in IndyCars. 2 wins in TEN FUCKING YEARS. and still hasn't won the 500.

>>75943262
>how many of you F1 only guys are gonna watch the Indy 500 after Monaco GP is done because Alonso?
So the Indy 500 is *after* Monaco? I guess that makes sense because of timezones. In which case then yes I'll watch some of it probably to see how Alonso's doing, but I'm not going to miss Monaco.

You going to watch Monaco? You better do. Else I won't watch your shitty race.

To bolster my argument a little while ago the more cylinders autist was going on about >road relevancy is a meme that should be ignored, but literally every one of his arguments for V8's is >these road cars that majority javr nothing to do with actual engine suppliers in F1 still have V12's

>>75943461
I watch all the racing I can

I just like fast cars

or vehicles in general hell I'd even watch a boat race

>>75943678
Based Americas Cup qualifiers soon lad

I also just like watching fast vehicles

>>75943365
Michael was given next to no testing in a new car that Ayrton didn't even like.
He was paired with a WDC and was often .5s off Senna's pace.
Michael didn't have any testing time or experience on the tracks, what did Mclaren expect?

>>75943678
>hell I'd even watch a boat race

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcFI08mJris&t=1339

>>75943784
tMichael also decided it would be OK to commute from the USA to Europe
instead of living in Europe where the fucking team is based

yeah he had Ayrton to contend with but he didn't take it as seriously as he should have. like Mario did. typical spoiled son. and Marco is even worse.

>>75943809
The best type of boat race
https://youtu.be/DXjGDa-vHPo

maybe Mario Andretti was too much for the son and grandson to live up to.

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>>75943402
>3 of the current F1 engine suppliers hardly have a car over 6 Cylinders
Both Mercedes and Ferrari have twin-turbo V8s in some of their flagship vehicles. Why are you trying to talk about a subject that you clearly know nothing about?

And hang on mate, is there a single Renault car that even has a 6 cylinder engine? And is there a single Honda apart from the NSX? So by your logic they should all be running inline 4s shouldn't they? And by your logic why did Renault and Honda get involved in the V10 era since I'm pretty sure neither of them produced cars with V10s in them at that point? Do you realise how stupid you sound?

>some faggy racing series have some faggy eco bullshit dickwaving engines where the dickwave about eking out fuel efficiency, therefore F1 is going to follow suit, DESPITE THE FACT THAT THE FIA HAVE EXPLICITLY SAID THAT CHEAPER, NOISIER, SIMPLER ENGINES ARE THEIR OBJECTIVE FOR THE NEW FORMULA
Why the fuck am I even talking to an absolute retard?

>>75943506
>he keeps banging on about road relevancy and yet cannot answer my simple question of why Renault and Honda got involved in F1 during the V10 era when they did not produce cars with V10 engines at that time
WOW IT'S ALMOST AS IF ROAD RELEVANCY EXTENDS TO MORE THAN JUST THE EXACT SAME ENGINE CONFIGURATION AS WHAT YOU USE IN YOUR ROAD CARS, HUH

WOW IT'S ALMOST AS IF F1 IS A MARKETING OPPORTUNITY AS MUCH AS IT IS A CHANCE TO DEVELOP NEW ENGINE TECHNOLOGIES

WOOOOOOAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

MY NEURONS HAVE REALLY BEEN STIMULATED

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How would you like Hamilton's helmet if it had a 70s-80s style?

>>75944048
70s-80s style meaning alcohol and tobacco company decals instead of energy drink and tech company decals?

>>75944085
are you being stupid on purpose again?

>>75944118
>implying alcohol and tobacco sponsorship in motorsports hasn't been replaced by energy drink and mobile phone sponsorship

new age, new vices.

>>75944003
>Calling LMP1 and Supercars faggy
One of us here is a retard and I can tell you right now it isn't me.

>visible trend on pretty much every non-spec non-American racing series
I think that's a very valid argument for what will happen. And you just called these great racing series faggy, great defence lad.

>road relevancy shit all together because you talked about it twice even though it doesn't matter or something, or it does matter now but didn't before and doesn't if someone else mentions it
I'm just wondering why you changed your tune from it isn't to it is to it isn't and then back again and again lad.
When you point out cars exist with more cylinders meaning that F1 should do the same, why I can't point out that the actual engine suppliers don't have more cylinders? You haven't actually addressed that other than "this one manufacturer has 1 or 2 cars in its small niche luxury range with more cylinders" Another tick on the "one of us is retarded" box for you there mate.

>raging incoherent all caps
Another tick on the "one of us is retarded" box for you there mate.

>>75944238
>trend
>F1 is going to do exactly the same as what other racing series are going to do
>despite the fact that the FIA have explicitly stated that they want LOUDER, CHEAPER, SIMPLER engines for 2020
You still are completely ignoring the points that I am giving you, presumably because you lack the intellectual capacity to engage with them?

>I'm just wondering why you changed your tune from it isn't to it is to it isn't and then back again and again lad.
Nah, that's exactly what you're doing, and you seem to be too clinically retarded to recognise it.

>F1 won't use twin-turbo V8s just because expensive cars do (and because two of the four current engine manufacturers make road cars with twin-turbo V8s in them)! That's ridiculous!
>Oh, but Renault and Honda will DEFINITELY only agree to a formula that coincides with what is going on in their road cars! Despite that fact that Renault don't even make a car with a V6 in it right now! Despite the fact that Renault and Honda didn't make V10 cars when they both participated in F1 back in the 2000s!

Make up your mind! That's probably expecting too much of your two brain cells though.

I don't think I've ever talked to a stupider person on this messageboard, and that's saying something.

>>75944173
I'm assuming "70-80s style" has nothing to do with sponsors and more to do with the paint style, duh.

>>75944415
car liveries are based on the sponsors.

so are the helmets.

yeah there's a little room for the driver to be a special snowflake but they are contractually obligated to have that Monster logo (or in the past, Marlboro logo) on their helmet.

>>75944348
>FIA
>They have total say in what happens to the engine regs
You now remember what you said slightly earlier about how the FIA wanted I4 engines introduced in 2013, and how we ended up with V6's in 2014.
Plus I have only seen Brawn say he wants that just like how he wants DRS removed, so we will have to wait to see if there is any substance behind Brawn's words. I haven't seen any backing behind it from anyone other than the drivers, but they have zero say in the way the Formula develops. So I can't really say much here because I don't sniff around for every comment from FIA on things that might not happen (see HALO).

>No you are
All I have said is that Ferrari is the only supplier that really has many 6+ cylinder cars, everyone else doesn't actually have any or doesn't have many. You are the one banging on about V12's meaning F1 should have more cylinders then raging when someone points out that's only Ferrari who should be less than 1/4th of the say of the manufacturers (we know this isn't reality though).

>make up your mind
I have said the same thing from the start lad, just like how I said it again just above. If you want to talk about V8 vs non V8 vote, you have Ferrari in favour of V8, Mercedes in the middle (they would probably vote for change to get an advantage with their great team at developing shit), then Honda, Renault and Audi (if they follow through with joining they have more experience in racing with V6).
It's not really stacked in V8's favor at all, it's not even likely to split 50-50 either.
If you want to talk about what we don't know much about because other than Ferrari the suppliers haven't been vocal your getting into theory territory.
In theory Renault and Honda would want the engines to stay more or less the same, they are behind and catching up in power, why would they risk falling well behind again? If they do want change why would they want engines that aren't in the area they have an advantage in?

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>>75939859
wew lads
>>75939859
You can't hate dannyboy.
It's like hating a sick puppy with one leg missing >>75941670
y h8 nando?

>>75945300
>hating Montoya

This is why terrorists bomb you.

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GUYS. I just had the best idea ever if you want to get a seat in a formula1 team. Just change your lastname to Marlboro. BOOM, now you are the paydriver with the most financial backing.

>>75945320
Literally a Post-Mclaren HAM tier d-bag.

Legit do not see the appeal in him.

Alright driver with an alright Indy/CART career, but a fucking douche.

>>75945357
FIA would make you censor your last name because it's 2017 and cigarettes are evil even though we took all their money in the past

>>75945320
>be Juan Pablo Montoya
>come back to IndyCar
>decide to not paint my helmet to "save weight"
>haven't looked at a mirror or the bathroom scale in over a decade

>>75945402
John Lucky Strike here new driver for McHonda replacing Lonso when he an heros.

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You all write him off
You all say "he is too old"
"Past his prime"
He will break merc
And /F1/ will apologise.

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>>75944469
Explain to me how is it that Jackie Stewart's helmet was based on Elf livery?

>>75945988
hey fuck you that was /indy/s meme you can't steal it

>>75945805
obviously legends are gonna have more options to customize their helmets

>b...but Hamilton is a legend

not to the extent that he can do what he wants with his helmet

>>75946011
idagf

>>75946022
well you should
/indy/ bout to show you fuckers what racing is all about

enjoy your little parade of Monaco

>>75946049
>HURR I'M GONNA DRIVE REALLY FAST AND TURN TO THE LEFT SOMETIMES
>MUH RACING

If you think /turnleft/ is better than F1, fuck off to your turnleft threads.

>>75946141
you don't get it and I didn't expect you to.

IndyCar isn't ASSCAR.

Screencap this: Fernando Alonso will not win the Indy 500.

>>75946159
>Alonso won't win
No one here thinks he will, we think he will turn right

>>75943443
long may they remain in 4XL pants then

>>75939772
1.6 3 cylinder eurocuck diesel hybrid

Who is the cutest F1 WAG and why is it Emilia?

>>75939772

This:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JIXPqgwQHk

>he doesn't watch superior F1 racing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1GCk_GazUc

>>75946543
God I could listen to Jackie Stewart explain things all day

>>75946551
Sidecar swingers are fucking crazy

>>75946551
how often do the crashes involve survivors?

>open /f1/
>autist Brit screeched throughout the night

Woah lad.

>>75946644
>blessed dubs

I sense the autism storm will only get stronger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKKeNnkDOzw

>the wankiest driver in the wankiest part of the wankiest city on earth.

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>>75946701

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newish instagram pic. She's getting better at taking these

>crops out top of head
>looks down to hide chin
>better makeup

is she /ourgal/?

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>>75939859

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>>75946818
Would bang if based solely on picture. VER is a lucky lad

>>75946818
she's always been /mygirl/ and since she's a NEET, she's /ourgirl/ by default

>>75946644
Is that the waglad impersonator/forced """character"""? Did he not go to sleep or what?

Mercedes didn't win the race, Ferrari lost it.

Spain GP driver ratings

>SKY SPORTS
Lewis Hamilton, 9.5
Sebastian Vettel, 9
Daniel Ricciardo, 7.5
Sergio Perez, 8.5
Esteban Ocon, 8
Nico Hülkenberg, 7.5
Carlos Sainz Jr, 7.5
Pascal Wehrlein, 9
Daniil Kyat, 7.5
Romain Grosjean, 6.5
Marcus Ericsson, 7
Fernando Alonso, 8
Felipe Massa, 6
Kevin Magnussen, 7
Jolyon Palmer, 5
Lance Stroll, 5


>AUTOSPORT
Hamilton, 9
Vettel, 9
Ricciardo, 6
Perez, 9
Ocon, 8
Hülkenberg, 7
Sainz, 7
Wehrlein, 10
Kvyat, 7
Grosjean, 6
Ericsson, 7
Alonso, 8
Massa, 6
Magnussen, 7
Palmer, 4
Stroll, 4

Bottas, 7
Vandoorne, 4
Verstappen, 8
Räikkönen, 7

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>>75946874
>Bottas, 7
>Verstappen, 8
>Räikkönen, 7

wat

>crash out at turn 1
>rankings of 8 and 7
why?

>>75939664
it always shocks and me the amount of crossover between motorsport and cyclist

>>75946818
>>75946822
Dreamt she was giving me a blowjob tonight lads, was a good dream

>>75946874
>alonslow
>8

lmao nigga was slow
lmao nigg

>>75946874
Ericsson unironically deserves a higher grade, also I have no idea why Autosport rates drivers that crash out in the first turn. Did Bottas damage his car in turn 1? No idea why he deserves a 7.

>>75946874
>Verstappen, 8
>Räikkönen, 7

>Qualifing ahead of your team mate instantly gives you an 8
>Qualifing behind however is a 7

>Ricciardo, 6

However, if you qualify behind your teammate and then don't retire, you get a -1

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I'll still argue any day that Perez would had a run for the championship in 2013 if he'd ran on Hamilton's gear. But oh well. Tho he has a run on the runner up leaders (If he doesn't crash and makes points each race till' the end of the season.)

Now c the corpse that Mclaren has turned itself on. Is hilariously sad. It's almost like a meme scuderia kek.

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>>75946917
this post confuses me

>>75946917
>what did he mean by this?

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>>75946840
that is how you can tell it ain't waglad. He has a job and is actually a normie.

In completely unrelated news Lancaster station is horribly wet and all trains are delayed...yay.

>>75946818
Stroll's sister or Kelly Piquet are my picks for /ourgal/

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>>75946879
>>75946874
>>75946872
>>75946159 >>>>>75946890
>>75946021 >>>75946917

>>75946933
Trains won't be delayed when Corbachev nationalises them.

>>75946874
Once again Hulkenberg is too low.

>>75946917
All I got from this post is "checo is /myguy/ and I want him to win"

Palmer will be sacked after taking out Hulk who was trying to lap him.

This will happen before the mid season break

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>>75946940
check her instagram.
Dani is a lucky Russian.

>>75946944
At least it won't be £7.50 to travel one stop.

>>75946933
I had the displeasure of using UK trains for a while. No idea how you put up with those prices. Also most trainstations look like shitholes, did all the money go to King's Cross?

>>75946959
In Monaco*

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>>75946928
gr8 t8 m8

yo no speako english very wheel

>inb4 taco removes you >>75946930

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I just did a small rain dance for Monaco. Hope it works. Pic related, I did what the first girl does

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>>75946962
this picture sums up the British relationship with rail services.

>finally get a nice new metro service expanded across greater manchester
>yobs attack the drivers and throw bricks at the trams

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>>75946951>>75946942
:^)

Who will crash the most in Monaco this year? Amx, Stroll or Palmer?

>>75946959
>>75946964
>Implying Palmer won't put it in the wall before Hülk has time to catch him.
He seems to find himself in walls more often than not this year, Monaco is gonna be very expensive for Renault

>>75946964
>implying he can stay off the walls for that long

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5csYY0GNU8

>>75946961
£7.50? That's mental. Are the trains even efficient?

>>75946978
it'll clearly be amx.

>>75946978
>Hülk has time to catch him.

To catch him he would need to be behind

Also I can see everyone carry too much speed into St.Devote and Casinò so I'd say AMX because of past knowledge

>>75946997
we were talking lapping stupido

>>75946997
Fucking read what I was replying to Guiseppe

>>75946961
>At least it won't be £7.50 to travel one stop.
>£7.50? That's mental. Are the trains even efficient?

Guys, your trains/undergrounds are expensive as fuck.

>>75946999

I see your point and your digits but are you saying Joy Lee & Palmer will survive lap 1?

>>75947014
see >>75946980

pls read whole thread before posting

>>75946978
Inb4 AMD AMX puts himself in wall and Jo, Lee and Palmer follows him in

>>75947019
he'd do the championship a great service by taking out lewlew and vetlel

Stroll won't dare go full throttle even once so he'll survive

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>>75947024
>lewlew and vetlel
>and vetlel
>vetlel

I don't know if you've noticed but Vetlel is /ourguy/ this year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ef6PcZIKnU4

>>75947034
literally never been /ourguy/

>>75946988
Only just. And of course a season ticket is useless as it only saves money if you travel every single day including weekends.

>>75947034
GRAZIE RAGAZZI FORZA FERRARI

Ericsson will get a cheeky point after some sweet sweet DNF's in Monaco. Three of which will be caused by Verstappen trying to overtake 2 cars at the same time in the tightest corner on the track

>>75947048
He is this year mate, he is our only chance at the nigger being btfo'd this year

>>75947050
How far does 7.50 take you? Can you not just walk it?

>>75947050
Yeah, they have the same deal here with monthly tickets. They also increase the price by a third before 10 and the trains are horribly overcrowded.

>>75947077
Sauber will get a double points finish

>>75947087
that doesn't make him /ourguy/

/f1/ will be the loser if VET or HAM is champion. Clinging on to hope that HAM has some bad races and BOT can capitalise to keep it a 3 way fight

>>75947104
>not hoping Our Lord and Saviour Gimi will wake up and clinch a sneaky WDC again
What is wrong with you

>>75947104
>bot
>inferior Finn

Kimi is clearly the superior

>>75947103
>Sauber will get a double points finish
Yes please, I would like that. Even though it hurts me a little to see Ericsson getting rekt by Wehrlein

>>75947077
>>75947111
Digits have spoken.

Double points for Sauber, Eric's wife's husband's wife's dark skinned lover's son will get wrecked by rascally Pascal.

>>75947091
Lancaster to Preston so no

>>75947111
Has Ericsson ever overtaken someone on track?

>>75947123
literally on Sunday

>>75947108
>>75947109
Gimi's season is at the point where Ferrari would cannibalise his car to keep Vettel's running at 50% if necessary.

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>>75947123
literally 2 days ago, if you count pic related as on track

>>75947121
Don't be rude. But if you're going to be rude you could at least pay of your debts first

>>75947123
Palmer, last race, I think more than once

>>75947138
>>75947143
Palmer and Stroll shouldn't count but yeah, technically he did apparently.

>>75946588

Speaking from experience, all swingers are fucking crazy.

>>75946551
this sport would be better with oldschool sidecars instead of these flatmobiles

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Best thing about the new regs is that shit drivers get eternally BTFO.

Watching them crash and burn in Monaco will be top tier satisfying.

>>75947150
In a Sauber it should

>>75947138
>>75947143
Ericcson > Stroll and Palmer. Especially with a year old engine.

>>75947164
Q1 is delicious because of this.

>>75947164
My anus is ready for seeing HAM get saved 5 times by 5 different safety cars

>>75947167
I appreciate your support, good post

>>75947172
>implying he'll survive 5 SCs
amx is torpedoing him at the chicane lap 1

>>75947179
Cheers Marcus.

>>75947184
Busted :O

>>75947214
Hey Marcus get your teeth right and take Hülkenberg with you

>>75939772
TT inline 6
dose dose uleh

>>75947214
Hey Marcus, give our regards to your parents and your mother's husband Eric.

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>>75947077
>>75947111
Ericsson was mentally destroyed after Spain, he had the race of his career but still couldn't score points. He's finished.

>Miss Q2 and get outqualified your teammate by LITERALLY 0.005 seconds
>Have an ok start but have to step on the brakes in turn 2 because a finn and a toothpaste suddenly reenter the track right in front of you
>Fight back, overtake Vandoorne and Palmer
>Get stuck behind a slow as fuck Lance Stroll in a 0 drag Mercedes powered Williams
>Only overtaking area is at the end of the straight, you have a 2016 engine
>Manage to get past Stroll but now your tires are fucked
>Team puts you on plan B strategy, your teammate still on the faster one stopper
>Pit LITERALLY the lap before Vandoorne brings out the VSC
>This allows Stroll to pit under VSC and get back in front of you again
>End the race having overtaken Stroll twice, both McLarens and Palmer.
Finish just out of the points, meanwhile everything fell into place for your teammate

>>75947238
the age of the white man is over

today is my birthday

>>75947221
Would that get me a gf?

>>75947237
Why would you tell me to give your regards to my dad twice?

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>>75947248
Happy New Year

>>75947244
>that post
>those digits

>>75947238
When you put it like that it does sound like a very, very JUST race.
F

Still not going to lose all hope though ;^)

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>>75947238
Here he is almost crying in his post race interview

>>75947238
you forgot to mention that he was just one place behind Wehrlein and in the top ten but couldn't make the strategy work like Wehrlein did

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>>75947253

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>>75947253
thanks I guess

>>75947271
Try reading the post again, Ericsson couldn't make a one stopper work because his tyres got worn out from overtaking cars.
Wehrlein had a mega lap one and could hold position and nurse his tires for most of the race. Now that's not me trying to take anything away from Pascal, he had a great race and was better than Ericsson.

>>75942113

KERS isn't the same thing as in Prius, yes they are both hybrid systems, but Prius is just about economy and Kers is about enhancing performance of turbo engines

F1 KERS led to hypercars of today, 918, P1 and LaFerrari

>>75947248
Buon compleanno grazie regrazie ciao pasta lasagne super mario

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>>75947344

>>75947248

Auguri lad

>>75947372
eheheh

now enough XD

>>75941881
>you see less & less of mates over time anyway as shit goes on.
Can confirm, especially after you move in with a woman. Sucks but that's how it goes.

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tfw not a leaf so cannot get these

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>>75947620
>no Prost

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>>75947620
>two brits

>tuesday
>still no streams of the race on sunday
>google for streams
>faggy fanboy british media spoil that hamilton won the race

god i hate this fucking racing series, its like they dont want people to watch it

>>75947690
Piranha Exchange.

You are welcome, faggy American (peace be upon Trump).

>>75947620

>The car on Hamilton's Stamp

JUST

Hamilton's out-lap on his fresh soft tyres was crucial in turning the tide against Ferrari and he delivered with truly awesome times in the middle sector (30.792s) and final sector (28.367). To put those figures in perspective, they were on the sort of pace that would have secured a place in Q3 during qualifying on Saturday despite Hamilton's car being laden with half a tank of fuel for the rest of the race.

Unsurprisingly, the two sector times were still the fastest of the race when the chequered flag fell 30 laps later and were nearly over a second quicker than the sector times from Hamilton's official fastest lap two laps from the end. If they'd been combined with a first sector that didn't involve exiting the pit lane, Hamilton's theoretical fastest race lap would have been in the high 1:21s -- a genuinely brilliant lap time for a car with that fuel load and one that would have been quick enough to secure pole position at last year's Spanish Grand Prix.

Rotary F1 engines when?

>>75947787

chur bro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSCX9IBtCDI

>>75947620
>leaf
>Gilles but no Jacques
wew lad, does even Canada hate him?

>>75941711
>You should do.
Whitesplaining isn't cool, Nigel

Arrived home lads.
What are the spicy new memes I missed in the last 24 hours? How did Alonso do in /turnleft/ practice?

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>>75947799
>wondering why lady on the microphone sounds retarded
>.nz
oh ok

>>75947902
D E S I G N A T E D

A M E R I C A N

P O S T E R

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>When he says it's his time.

>>75947902
Narain Karthikeyan is back in /F1/, shitposting more than the designated streets could ever produce.

>>75947811
Gilles has more legend status

>>75947690
watch it live, ffs

>>75947690
>doesn't torrent the race so there is no chance of it being spoiled
retard alert

>>75947979
Bahamas on suicide watch

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You now remember Heikki Kovalainen

>>75947948

Your shitcunt of a country has nothing to to laugh about cunt, I sailed across the atlantic with a couple of dutch lads and they made the austrians onboard look like mensa qualifiers. Both of them we bloody lucky to make it home alive, the atlantic is a big place.

>>75948155
enlighten the thread with your story

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>>75948155
>call some accent shit-tier
>get unrelated rant about intelligence
whats on your mind buddy, are you rustled?

>>75948162

What would you like to hear, I work on private yachts for a living,

This particular crossing was a race yacht delivery with two Dutch and two Austrians.

>>75948171

I was implying that your accent sounds like the end result of a retard fucking a mongoloid.

>>75948199
i want to hear about the dutch being retarded

>>75948199
>race yachts

I was gonna claim that Kiwi clay should be Australia's to trigger you but idc anymore, tell me about the yacht.

reminder that you're fucking racist!!!! if you dont support hamilton

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>>75948309
but he's a cunt

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>>75948309
WHITE POWER

>>75948048
But they included drivers from other countries and not the only Leaf champion

>>75948309
I don't need reminding that I'm racist - I live in a city with aborigines.

And Hamilton is a cunt.

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Monaco tyre selections.

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>>75948330
>>75948353
>>75948318

Imagine being this emasculated by the mere mention of a black man.

>>75948361
3/4 race distance on US yes or no

>>75948374
Sorry, can't imagine it.

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>>75948374
he's just such a douche though

>>75948361

>Button

>>75948361
>button

>>75948401
>>75948402
Do you think it was his or Nandos Choice

>>75948050
>implying it's worth it to wake up at 5am to watch this shit

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hamilton-gives-up-on-drinks-bottle-to-save-weight-906250/

Now we know why he sounded like a 90yo.
Collapse at the wheel when? Sepang or before?

>>75948401
>>75948402
>>75948413
Fernando's selection - they were made a few months ago and cannot be altered.

>>75948429
singapore will be where it kills him, other tracks are fine i think but singapore is the killer

It's seems like only 2 teams now have actual money to run all this shit. Even red bull can't compete anymore. Next year will be just 1 team lapping everyone else? What the fuck happened?

>>75948459
You know it was worse last year right? And that its not a money issue for RB?

>>75948459

Renault maybe will have

>>75948435

I feel Hungaroring might be killer temperature-wise too

>>75948429
didn't he pant at the start of the race? hard to believe he was dehydrated at that point already

>>75948413
>>75948431
Nando should've gone for 11S 1SS 1US desu

>>75948309

Nice strawman Daryl.

>>75948318
>>75948546
he's only a cunt because he's black!!! its just his style, racists

>>75946940
Too hot. /ourgrill/ needs to be attainable. Kind of like grills like Benedict Cumberbitch.

HOLY SHIT I actually won something on the manor auction. Rear Camozzi cradle

>>75948606
Enjoy your carbon fibre talking piece - hopefully you can mount it nicely or display it.

>>75948616
I tried going for the wheel nuts.

Got outbid in seconds.