/NFL/ General: Elite Guards edition

Fuck the pats

>>75928774
Marshall Yanda is elite as fuck

>>75928841
Too bad Joe Flaccos not

>>75928887
He is though

>>75928887

> Needing an elite QB to win Superbowls

And snowballs survive in hell.

>>75928905
Put your trip back on faggot

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>SEA:Seahawks rookie CB Griffin in mix to start

YES! NU-LOB INCOMING

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>>75928774
>HOU:O'Brien says D'Onta Foreman is out of shape
I don't remember if he said Foreman was particularly out of shape compared to the other rookies they brought in. He usually comments every year on how the rookies are generally out of shape because they've been training for combine drills instead of preparing for NFL football. The only people in recent memory I remember O'Brien ragging on for being particularly out of shape are Jaelen Strong (who managed to correct his conditioning partway into his rookie year iirc) and Louis Nix III (who O'Brien commented had trouble just making it through practices and who was eventually cut because of injury and conditioning concerns).

I don't think I'm too concerned about Foreman yet. Gotta see how he shows up to OTAs and then training camp. If he's still out of shape by training camp, then I'll be more worried.

>>75928908
Of course the leaf has to cuck his own existence

>>75928908
>needing an offense to win owls

>>75928914
>the city of Houston having trouble staying in shape

Pottery

>>75928814

>3-10
>3-10
>3-10
>3-10
>3-10

>>75928912
Stop obsessing. Flacco is a super bowl MVP. Hes pretty damn good

>>75928940
>needing a team to win a super bowl

By January, the Chiefs will be DUST IN THE WIND

>>75928966
>needing to win an owl

Hey everyone, I'm Old Bay and I was a Niners fan before Super Bowl 47

>>75928966
>not being a Pro bowl lifetime fan.

>>75928958
Mad at the Ravens? Lel

Honest to God, the Cowboys should sign Kaep. He'd be a better backup than fucking Kellen Moore, and Jerry could use the controversy to sell more merchandise.

>>75928965
Flacco is a meme. The whole league already accepts that except autistic ratbird fans who enjoy being second in the division every year

>>75928988
>SF
>not Oakland

>>75928967
Dubs confirm

Patrick Mahomes will be the biggest bust the league has seen since Jared Goff. I guarentee it

>>75929001
>doubting the king in the north

>>75928988

Dubs confirm that 'Bay' refers to 'Bay Area', the location of the San Francisco 49ers franchise, my NFL team of choice from 2012-February 2013 before I became a lifelong Baltimore fan

Fake old bay is so fucking mad rn. Let it go bradleysknee

What's /sp/ thoughts on Blake Bortles?

>>75929146
His hairline is fucked

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>when someone says the Seahawks window has closed

Also, finally my boy Gabe gets some respect.
>>75929146
Would take him as a 2nd QB.

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>>75928774
Based Big Reggie loves his O-line

>>75929146
16th best quarterback in the nfl

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*blocks your path*

MVP: Tom Brady
OPOTY: Drew Brees
DPOTY: Khalil Mack
COTY: Hue Jackson
OROTY: Leonard Fournette
DROTY: Malik Hooker

>>75929056

He's Kevin Kolb 2.0

>Drafted as a reach pick to replace Andy Reid's current QB
>Turns out Reid made a huge mistake because his new QB sucks and the other guy got forced out of town

>>75929331

>Wanting anyone on your team to win MVP

>>75929335
So who's the Chiefs' Michael Vick in this scenario?

Fake Old Bay btfo.

Old Bane?

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>>75928774
>DET:Caldwell: Ebron 'just keeps getting better'

>>75929361

Are there any starting-caliber QBs currently in prison?

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Why haven't the Rams ditched the gold yet?

Either wear yellow or fucking white on dark blue. Dark blue and gold is St. Louis's thing, let them have it

>>75929056
YOu wish

>>75929438
Trying to hold on to those St pooey fans

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>tfw Rico Gathers is going to be the black Gronk

>>75929481
Who's the white Gronk?

>>75929331
>MVP: Tom Brady
>OPOTY: Tom Brady
>DPOTY: JJ Watt
>OROTY: Leonard Fournette
>DROTY: Myles Garrett

>>75929497
Mat at Mack?

The Steelers are a good football team and I like them

>>75929361
Oh, fuck, it's gonna be RG3, isn't it?

Drew Brees is living proof that your team having an elite quarterback doesn't mean shit if that quarterback doesn't have talent around them.

Tom Brady is living proof that your team having an elite quarterback DOES mean shit even if that quarterback doesn't have talent around them.

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>>75929331
MVP: Le'veon Bell
OPOTY: Ben Roethlisberger
DPOTY: Ryan Shazier
COTY: Mike Tomlin
OROTY: Juju Smith-Schuster
DROTY: TJ Watt

>>75929640
And one and done

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post em brehs

>>75929747
>Chargers 8-8 3-3

Well, it's an improvement.

>>75929747
>stillers beating the Pats

lol, even with Jimmy G as QB it's a stretch

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The 2017-18 Cowboys will have
>Top 5 run D
>Top 5 offense
>27+ ppg
>10+ wins
>2400+ rushing yards
>playoff win(s)
>6+ probowlers
>a ROTY candidate/winner
>


>>75928774
Fun fact: the raiders offensive line may not give up very many sacks, but they are the most heavily penalized line when it comes to holding.

>>75929935
I already fucking told you. make switzer half grey half purple.

>>75929935
>can't wait for the Cowshit fags to abandon the board until March

>>75929995
but i have to do it when it's official which will be week 1. him and beasely in the slot is going to be so so good. giants gonna get fucked

>>75930014
pfft march 2029 after their dynasty ends faggot lmao @ ur lyfe & teem

>>75929935
that offense grading is actually pretty honest

>>75929935
Zeke is elite

>>75930190
This, Zeke is legitimately elite as fuck.

I'd honestly take him over every running back in this year's draft.

>>75930251
>I'd honestly take him over every running back in this year's draft.

That's not saying much.

>>75930257
he is the best RB since LT

>>75930288
Let's not get ahead of ourselves

>>75930257
t. contrarian retard

>>75930333
How is it retarded? Not a single RB in this year's draft has played a single down.

>I'd take a player who's played a season over every RB in this year's draft

Wow!

>>75929935
>>75930130
>>75930190

you guys do understand that if practically the whole offense is great or elite they would have been better?

>>75930357
They had a mediocre secondary that played well above their talent level during the regular season and had to face up against a superbowl QB. Keep in mind the Cowboys are one of the youngest teams in the NFL also. Having just a elite offense doesn't guarantee you anything come playoff time.

>>75928774
>OAK:Elijah Hood 'turned heads' at rookie minicamp

Not surprised. Getting him in the 7th was a fucking steal

>>75929253
Top fucking kek what 16 starting NFL QBs is he better than?

>literally two road wins in his career
>80 fumbles and picks in 46 career games

I would take Brian Hoyer, Sam Bradford and Cody Kessler over him straight up

>>75930491
How does Bortles still have a starting job?

>>75930377
Checked

And yeah, Godgers was in full God Mode when he faced the Cowboys, that secondary didn't stand a chance. I honestly think this year's secondary will be better, despite being full of rookies.

>>75930491
He'll ascend, Derek Carr style

>>75930506
>because jasg

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Redskins will win the superb owl

>>75930547
Carr was promising his first two season, Bortles has been nothing but a joke.

>>75930625
His ascent will be slower, but I do believe he is gonna be good

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Don't forget.

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>>75930660
>tfw it's possible that the 49ers will be rebuilt, disassembled, and then rebuilt again in the time it's taken for the Rams to "rebuild"

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>>75928774

>>75930669
Dude the 49ers and Cards are shit. The Rams are honestly a playoff contender with McVay running the offence and Wade Philips working with that defence

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>>75930741
>Broncos chart
>Atlanta Falcons, March 2016

>>75930756
>goff

>>75930660
>cheat

>>75930855
Dude Jeff Fisher is arguably one of the worst head coaches in NFL history. He couldn't develop talent on offence the entire time he was with the Rams

Goff has talent but McVay is gonna do a lot of simple quick rhythm stuff on offence and pound the rock with Gurley and an improved O line. Mainly It's the defence that has me thinking they'll get to 9-10 wins this year but Goff definitely is a huge question mark which is why nobody else will pick them to make it in this year

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>>75930741

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>Falcons went up by 25 points before being outscored 31-0 in the final 25 minutes of the Superbowl

>>75930964
>tfw the Ravens would never give Joe Flacco the insane amount of weapons on offence that Andy Dalton has this year

Don't know how people are sleeping on them after one mediocre season

>>75930982
all they needed was one stop lmfao

they had so many opportunities.

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>>75929640

>>75930996
Because
>that Offensive line

Also spending a top 10 pick on a player who has major injury concerns and wasn't even really a position of need isn't usually received well

>>75930756
Cards are going to rebound this year. No more Kicker choking away games, John Brown got his blood disorder sorted out, offensive line healthy. Plus the additions on Defense in this years draft have a chance of making a serious impact this year.

>>75931083
How good does it really need to be? If you have Joe Mixon, Gio Bernard, Tyler Eifert, AJ Green, John Ross, Brandon LaFell and Tyler Boyd on offence you're going to score a ton of points. Seahawks are continuosly changing up their O line and making do with subpar pieces by believing in their coaching

All I can say is I hated facing the Bengals before they had the best draft of any team this year

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>>75930982
>>75930997
how do the patriots get so fucking lucky in every super bowl

not saying what they did wasn't good or part of a great work ethic and perseverance but god damm every super bowl they play finds a what to shit themselves in incredible fashion outside of the eagles one

>>75931145
Dude you take out Carson Palmers stats against the Seahawks without ET and Saints without Kenny Vacarro he had a truly fucking abysmal year

Their defence should be better this year but their offence is regressing fast

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>>75929094
>he was on the kaepernick bandwagon

no one in this general card about teams offensive lines or how good they were or how much of a burden to the team was until the cowboys proved how effective a dominating offensive line was

>>75929438
They're doing a full uniform, logo, colors re-brand when they're new stadium opens

>>75930997
they didn't even need a stop. All the had to do was run down the clock instead of snapping the ball with over 15 seconds every play.

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>>75931264
>no one in this general card about teams offensive lines or how good they were or how much of a burden to the team was until the cowboys proved how effective a dominating offensive line was

>>75931310
Wait a minute. Let me spruce up that sentence with some punctuation (and a spelling correction) so it makes more fucking sense.

Ahem. "No one in this general cared about teams' offensive lines, or how good they were, or how much of a burden to the team they were until the cowboys proved how effective a dominating offensive line was."

>>75931299
What are the rumors looking like? Any chance they go in a wild direction with colors?

>>75929331
MVP: Andrew Luck
OPOTY: TY Hilton
DPOTY: Vontae Davis
COTY: Chuck Pagano
OROTY: Marlon Mack
DROTY: Malik Hooker
God: Chris Ballard

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Name a better era of football than the Chad Johnson era

I'll wait

>>75931425
Ochocinco is missed dearly

>>75929496
Jake butt

>>75931425
I used to not like the guy but I'll admit the NFL needs guys like him and TO again. They understood that at the end of the day this is all about entertainment and that's what they set out to do

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>>75931425

Anyone else find it funny that Washington offense always fucked themselves with penalties and the coaches couldn't control them

Now the OC is the head coach for the rams , Bengals west tier of chimping out and he will be worst at controlling them

>>75931334
Yeah that's still fucking stupid.

>>75929094

from one shithole inner city full of literal apes to another

well done pham

>>75931586
How much of that was on McVay, though, and how much of that is on Gruden? Gruden to me seems like a putz. I have no idea how he commands respect.

>>75928997
Kaep refuses to play as a backup

>>75929056
Goff hasnt busted yet fag

>>75931628

he's been playing blackup his whole life m9

>>75931628
He's a fucking moron, then, he was headed for a backup role before all this BLM shit. He turned back into a pumpkin once the league figured out the zone read.

>>75928965
yeah and eli manning is a hall of famer

>>75931334
>>75931264

yeah no. everyone knew how important OLs were, you'd have to be the biggest newfag casual to think that nobody cared about offensive lines before the last couple years.

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The Jacksonville Jaguars are literally too talented to fail. That is a championship defense. It's really all on the coaches and Bortles now

>>75932203
>championship defence

At what positions? I mean they have two very good CBs in Jalen Ramsey and AJ Bouye but where's the depth? Tashaun Gipson and Barry Church aren't exactly world beaters at Safety

LBs you got Myles Jack who didn't show shit last year, Paul Posluzny who's getting older and Telvin Smith who's the one that's actually an above average player from the group. Where's the depth there?

D line now you could make an arguement. Calais Campbell is a potential Hall of Famer but Malik Jackson and Dante Fowler didn't exactly do much last year. Yannick Ngakoue put some heat on but the dude plays at a lighter weight than Robert Mathis did in the mid 00s. He's not exactly an every down DE

I dunno I see a unit like the Giants, Chiefs, Texans and I can buy into it because they have proven blue chip talent. Jaguars have potential but outside of Campbell and Ramsey I wouldn't consider any player from their projected starting 11 as a blue chip player

>>75932264
>At what positions? I mean they have two very good CBs in Jalen Ramsey and AJ Bouye but where's the depth? Tashaun Gipson and Barry Church aren't exactly world beaters at Safety

Aaron Colvin is literally a high tier nickel corner. Gipson led the league in interceptions back to back a few years ago and really wasn't terrible despite playing out of position most of the time, and Barry Church is pretty good famalam

>LBs you got Myles Jack who didn't show shit last year, Paul Posluzny who's getting older and Telvin Smith who's the one that's actually an above average player from the group. Where's the depth there?
Jack hardly played last year for reasons unknown. I don't think this is the year Poz starts falling off though, he's been solid as fuck for the Jags. They have an extremely athletic rookie behind them but yeah, the LB corps definitely needs a little more depth

>D line now you could make an arguement. Calais Campbell is a potential Hall of Famer but Malik Jackson and Dante Fowler didn't exactly do much last year. Yannick Ngakoue put some heat on but the dude plays at a lighter weight than Robert Mathis did in the mid 00s. He's not exactly an every down DE
Jackson literally posted career numbers in like every category last year senpai. Fowler is basically a sophomore player and Ngakoue is a fantastic pass rusher

>>75932301
Overall though, it's still a defense with top 5 talent. It'll be hard to fuck it up this year considering they finished 6th in defense last year with less (and more time on the field)

>>75932301
>>75932310
>top 5 talent

Why though? Would you honestly take the Jags defence and HC/DC over the Chiefs, Giants, Patriots, Texans, Ravens, Seahawks, Falcons, Eagles, Broncos and Rams?

I could see them being better than maybe one or two teams on that list if everything broke right but that's barely top 10. Then you throw in all the turnovers and bad field position that their offence will put them in and it really seems like a stretch for them to dominate in a way that will consistently result in wining football games

>>75932335
But statistically last year they were better than some of those teams on that list. They finished #6 in defense and #5 in pass defense, and they've objectively improved on defense, not to mention they're running a traditional 4-3 instead of the 4-3 under based defense, which a lot of people believe is a huge reason why they couldn't force turnovers; none of the personnel fit the scheme

I think it's unrealistic to think that the Jags will finish with as many turnovers as they have in the past unless Leonard Fournette tears his ACL in preseason. They'll be playing ball control and trying to win the field position battle. Bortles has actually looked studly whenever the Jags are able to establish a running game.

Yes, I'd take the Jaguars as a top 5 defense this year, especially considering the QBs they play this year.

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Imagine this being your daughter

>>75932376
Those rankings are specifically for yards. The turnovers and bad field position are why they look so great. The other teams didnt have far to go to put it in the endzone.

>>75933168
How is this nfl related?

>>75933324
That's Ishmael Adama UDFA for the Rams

>>75933168
>t. disgruntled nosecks

He has an Iron Maiden shirt on. So far, he has 5 points over your beta ass. Back to /b/ or whatever shitty off topic thread you came from.

>>75933434
black guy wearing metal shirt is like witnessing a unicorn

>>75929438
Good, I'm not a Rams fan and I fucking hate that hideous dark blue dark gold uniform. Top 5 ugliest uniforms in the league

>his team didnt beat the browns

>>75932203
>it's on the coaches and Bortles now

Then they're fucked

>Johnathan Hankins "Colts have the best defense in the AFC"

How many concussions does one have to take to the head to be this absurdly retarded

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>>75933506
metal kinda bleaches black guys

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>eagles get dude with coolest name on the planet to come to their rookie camp
>he might not be able to play football for 2 years

the air force is gay as fuck

>REPORT: Chargers Release OG Orlando Franklin

What sports do you follow during the offseason? I'm getting bored and not sure what to fill the time with.

>>75934239
he would be lucky to make the practice squad

>>75934322
I follow the Cardinals and Braves to pass the time.
Also, the NBA finals when they roll around.

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Top 25 GOAT QBs (1960-present)

>Top 5 (pretty much set in stone)
1. Brady
2. Montana
3. Peyton
4. Unitas
5. Elway

>the rest
6. Marino
7. Staubach
8. Rodgers
9. Tarkenton
10. Brees
11. Favre
12. Young
13. Jurgensen
14. Fouts
15. Moon
16. Anderson
17. Kelly
18. Bradshaw
19. Aikman
20. Warner
21. Rivers
22. McNabb
23. Cunningham
24. Namath
25. Esiason

Honorable Mentions
Len Dawson
Eli Manning
Ben Roethlisberger
Phil Simms
Joe Theismann

r8, h8, deb8, rel8, m8s

>>75934412
>5. Elway

Is there anything besides the rings that put him that high? Iirc, his stats are not impressive, at all.

>>75934322
NHL, but the Sharks always choke
MLB, but the Padres suck
NBA, don't really follow a team but I unironically like Lebron James thanks to /sp/
Don't really like soccer, but I'm a fairweather Xolos fan.
>>75934412
>5.Elway
Marino, Brees, Fouts, Anderson and Young are all better imo.

>>75934412
>no Tony Romo
>not even in "honorable mentions"

blind Cowboy hating faggot, even if you put Staubach and Aikman on the list

>>75934412
my list is 1950-Present

1. Brady
2. Montana
3. Staubach
4. P. Manning
5. Unitas
6. Favre
7. Marino
8. Young
9. Brees
10. Elway
11. Starr
12. Roethlisberger
13. Graham
14. Tarkenton
15. Dawson
16. Rodgers
17. Bradshaw
18. Kelly
19. Aikman
20. Warner
21. Griese
22. Jurgensen
23. Brocklin
24. Stabler
25. Fouts

Honorable Mention- Layne, Moon, Tittle, Namath, and Anderson

>>75934439
>Ken Anderson and Dan Fouts better than John Elway
this is literally the worst post i've ever seen online

>>75934425
the fact that he managed to command the weak AFC and make it to three Super Bowls with shit talent surrounding him while not being a choke artist like Marino. yeah, he only won them when TD arrived on the scene, but he ran into crazy good NFC teams in his first three SBs and got pounded each time because, outside of him, the talent was just too much better on the other side.

>>75934445
>Romo
he isn't within yodeling distance of the top 25. you're lucky I even bothered with Aikman, it took some persuading from people on other forums for me to even let him in the top 20.

>>75934474
>Graham not top 3 when including the 50s
your list is dogshit, m8, doesn't even rise to troll or ironic level bad.

>>75934476
John Elway is overrated m8.

>>75934508
If you seriously believe that Ken Anderson and Dan Fouts were better QBs than Elway, I'm just going to assume that you have some mental disorder. Fair?

>>75934507
if you have Graham top 3 I wouldn't blame you but my list is only 1950 to present which cuts out the first half of Graham's career

Not going to have a guy top 3 who only started 60 something games

>>75934518
>Not going to have a guy top 3 who only started 60 something games
fair point.

>>75934508
>Mexican opinions mattering
back to >>>/divegrass/ with you, hombre

>>75934474
this list is pretty good

>>75934412
>Elway 5th
>Tarkenton 9th
>Favre 11th
>Young 12th
>Jurgensen 13th
>Fouts 14th
>Moon 15th
>Anderson 16th
>Rivers 21st
>Mcnabb 22nd
>cunningham 23rd
>namath 24th
>esiason 25th

these are all putrid holy shit you dont know anything

>>75934554
>samefagging

>>75934517
I don't think Elway had a season with over 30 TDs or that many >4000 yards seasons.

>>75934575
>muh stats
You're right, Warren Moon is better than Elway too. Same with Drew Bledsoe.

>>75934593
Those are actually debatable.

>>75934412
>>75934610
I'm a Pats fan and don't have Bledsoe sniffing anywhere in the top 25, because he's not worthy of it.

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>tfw you will never get 55k just for not being a fat fuck

>Raiders third-round pick Eddie Vanderdoes to miss every remaining spring practice due to UCLA's academic schedule

Glad the guy cares about his degree.

>>75934673
QB who didn't win any rings as starters or QBs on shit teams don't get much love, unless they put ludicrous numbers, as Marino.

Bledsoe did take a then shit franchise to the SB. That choke tho.

>>75934732
he didn't really choke, the Packers (and Favre, whom Drew is a poor man's version of) were that much better than the Pats.

>>75934762
True, still threw 4 picks tho. Amazing how that Packers team didn't have an answer to T. Davis the following year.

>>75934730
what is his degree?

>>75934777
>Amazing how a team better on offense than defense didn't have an answer for one of the most dominant running backs of all time
This Mexican has really made me think

https://twitter.com/247Sports/status/864150134342508546
>play for the shithole city of KC
>play for a shithole team that ruined their future for you
>get robbed at gunpoint and reportedly piss your pants
>will get robbed more by von miller and khalil mack resulting in a piss factory for the queefs and their ever thirsty fans

>>75934730
He's still working out at EXOS so he'll be in great shape. Came into rookie minicamp weighing 301 already. It's really not a big deal

>>75934730
He left norte dame to UCLA because of his grandmother but also cited his academics would be effected by their football schedule

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What'cha gon do with the greatest ginger fixes his throwing mechanics on you?

>>75934971
rig his right tackle's piss test

>>75928774

>those fat fucks

lol how are these people considered "athletes"

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>>75934983
delete this

>>75934988
they probably have more stamina, are faster and not to mention stronger than the average adult

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Alex Smith got shooters now huh?

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SYSTEM QB

>>75934988
If anything they're more Athletic than most smaller football players as some O-line men can clock 5 second 40's in the mid 6 foots whilst packing 300 pounds. That's incredibly Athletic.

>>75934983
please not again, i dont wanna watch that hawaiian get raped on every snap anymore

> Adam SchefterVerified account @AdamSchefter 3m3 minutes ago

>Patrick Mahomes II, the Chiefs' first-round draft pick, robbed at gunpoint

>>75928914
i dont think i've ever seen BOB call a rookie reporting to camp in shape.

>>75935034
>if a lot of people were in my shoes they could accomplish the same kinds of things
>that list of people included Hercules, Jesus Christ and The Flash

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>Patrick Mahomes robbed at gunpoint

>>75935034
I've never understood people who call Brady a system babby then call Montana the goat. Montana played in a great system at the time as well.

Both system babbys.

>>75935034
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


BRADY FAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH

THE TRUTH CANNOT BE DENIED

>>75935072

Elway is the GOAT

>>75935053
>Patrick Mahomes II, the Chiefs' first-round draft pick, robbed at gunpoint
has he even signed a contract yet?

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>>75935047
>27% of ryan kerrigan's sacks came in that one eagles game last year

>>75935096
Lol. He's like borderline top 10

>>75935129

>He's a babby babby

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We still have one black weeb in the league, apparently

>>75935163
A couple just got drafted this year.

>>75935139
He's a babby baby babby

>>75935163
>DBZ
that doesn't count as weeb

>>75935188
t. Weeb

>>75935188
DBS :^)

>>75935175
No one will ever be as weeb as based brendan. Nigga has a bodh pillow and his wrestling finisher is a Love live reference, the nico nico knee.

>>75935112
tbf he was beating up on vaitai making a terrible first start
and then vaitai got much better after that game

>>75935193
He's Mexican, that's a given already

>>75935199
is DBS good?

>>75935224
It's ok

>>75935224
No, universe 6/7 tournament is the only decent part.

>>75935205
well it's not really that hard to outdo that first game, it was dreadful. maybe the worst RT i've ever seen. he's a quality backup at this point and will probably take over RT in the future, but he can't be a starter next year. wentz needs consistency, and his numbers with lane versus without him are night and day

Now that Brady is a confirmed system QB by his own volition, who is the true GOAT?

>>75935193
Don't really consider myself one, I do like some anime but only old stuff. Dragon Ball is normie stuff tho.

>>75935207
You're right about our people, anime got us bad; but I managed to grew out of it. Mostly thanks to sports.

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Lacy made weight, gets a free $55k

>>75935267
Lawrence Taylor or Reggie White

Since it's pretty much a guarantee that Adam Vinatieri will be the next kicker that gets elected to the Hall of Fame, will we ever see a punter, or an exclusively-ST, non-kicking player get there?

>>75935267

Tom Brady

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>>75935278
>only 2 pounds under

Jesus Christ, he's such a fat fuck. Puts Clips to shame.

>>75935291
ray guy is already in the hall

>>75935291
matthew slater, if he keeps making all pro teams at his current rate

>>75935298
Carroll wants him at 245, which could happen by the time the season starts.

>>75935291
Ray Guy is already in the HOF

>>75935291
The league is doing their best to eliminate ST, I don't think they would want anymore ST there. Devin Hester could be a candidate imo.

?why couldn't the packers make Lacy lose weight¿

>>75935291
Has a long snapper been to the HOF?

>>75935348
Because there's nothing else to do there

>>75935348
mike mccarthy thinks 280 is normal healthy weight

>>75935307
my first thought, too, but he's not a returner so I don't think, unless he makes like 15 APs total, he has a chance. There has to be a point where you get so many AP/PB nods that you just get elected regardless.

>>75935341
Agreed, Hester probably has the best shot among returners. Does he own all 3 TD return records now (kick, punt, and combined) ?

>>75935306
>>75935319
huh. well wouldn'tcha know.

>>75935358
not that I know of. how the hell would you even evaluate LSs for Hall consideration? Not a single bad snap throughout their careers? Is there even a stat specifically for long snappers?

>>75935441
280 is healthy in white trash areas

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Elite within the division

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>>75928774
>TFW the giants still haven't signed a rb


good maybe reese will get fired like he should have when coughlin did

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How do you go from salsa dancing in the end zone to hosting a shitty MTV reality show?

>>75933373
He got released tho

>>75930964
>>75934039
Can someone who knows what they're doing make one of these for the dolphins? I want to see it but I'm too fucking casual to do it myself.

>>75935838

Uhh, bad knees?

>Beth Mowins to call second game in opening week MNF double-header

We've officially lost sports guys

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>>75936056

>>75936027
>muh girls

she's a good announcer quit being a bitch

>>75936082
you hyped for tonights sportscenter at 6?

>>75936100
I don't have cable and don't know what that is so no

>>75936027

Watched a baseball game last season with a woman commentator and it was dreadful

>>75936082
Uh no

>>75936196

> it was dreadful

that's baseball for you

>>75936196
woah racist homophobic bigot detected

>>75936027
that second game in the double header is always fucking shit

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>>75935085
>Denied his GOATness

This is why he is the GOAT

Brady may be the GOAT, but Favre is unironically the most talented and the greatest qb to ever play the game

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>>75936550

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>tfw less than 10 months till the vikes have home field advantage in the bowl
All smiles

>>75936550
>brady may be the greatest of all time, but favre is the greatest qb to ever play the game

listen to yourself

anyways if we're going off sheer talent I think Elway was #1.

Brady isn't even the GOAT of QBs. Montana is by Brady's own admission, how can he be the GOAT of football when there have been better athletes and more championship winners?

>>75936612
I have Brady #1 because his resume is the most complete and well rounded

5th in career starts by a qb(should pass Marino and Tarkenton for 3rd this year)
Consistency
two mvps
and the greatest winner other than *maybe* Otto Graham but that was a much different era

the greatness of Brady comes from it's very hard to find a flaw from his career

>>75936677
>the greatness of Brady comes from it's very hard to find a flaw from his career

How about the New York Giants and a couple asterisks?
You retarded dick sucker.

>>75936815
not a patriots fan

I'm not one of those guys who thinks losing the super bowl is worse than losing earlier or not making the playoffs

as for the asterisks it's very hard to know what's legitimate, and what's not, as well as the extent of Brady's involvement in said scandals and how much it aided them in winning.

If it bothers you that much you can give him the Barry Bond treatment, but I'm not going to penalize him for it.

>>75928774
If Unger is getting healthy, does that mean >we aren't dumping Kelce on them?

>>75930756
McVay running the "offense" with no receivers, a busted qb, and a busted running back. Wade Philips is something else, but that offense is bottom 3

Cliff Branch belongs in the HOF

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>>75936815

> asterisks

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/pete-carroll-says-kaepernick-griffin-are-among-seahawks-backup-qb-options/

its really all come full circle
>RG3 behind that oline

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>ctrl+f "buc"
>0 results

yes

under the radar

out of mind

proceeding just as planned

Chargers unironically winning the offseason, lads

>>75937882
>in 2012 people thought Kaepernick and Rg3 were better than Russell Wilson
>now Kaepernick and rg3 have to be wilson's backup or fall out of the league

>>75938383
rg3 was better than wilson in 2012

>>75938401
And so was Kaep. Using hindsight to try and make some sort of meaningful statement is retarded.

>>75938383
>implying griffin and kaep weren't better than wilson in 2012
krabs I like you but if you keep this up i'm going to have to embarrass you

>>75938401
>>75938415
>>75938437
more pointing out how quickly Kaep and rg3 have fallen from grace

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>>75938383

>>75935348
Because cheese

>>75931425
Based. I will always wear his jersey to the games

>>75933168
>that extreme duckface
>black guy in a maiden shirt
Legitimately triggered

>>75931152
>Get super lucky

>Lose to a literal retard twice thanks to 2 throws

>>75938796
>angry that a black dude listens to the same entry level bullshit pop-metal as you
You're fucking embarrassing. Kill yourself. Seriously.

>>75938888
Those quads don't lie, brb becoming an hero

can someone please tell me what site you go on to get these news? i can't remember the name of it.

>>75939063
Use this instead

http://www.rotoworld.com/sports/nfl/football

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>Quinn’s initial defensive game plan (playing a lot of man coverage with an extra defender lurking in the middle to take away the Pats’ quick passing game) was far too taxing on his players, and the defense did not have enough depth to employ such an aggressive strategy for 60-plus minutes.

>“The guys were gassed. We had never played in the 90s (snap count). We were not traumatized at all. You could tell there was nothing left in the tank. They would come to the sideline in the fourth quarter and nobody was talking because there was nothing left.”

>Atlanta in charge of conditioning
>Falcons in charge of staying fit

IT'S FINALLY OUR YEAR
RIVERS WILL FINALLY GET THAT RING

Did the Packers do anything lately?

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Does Patrick Willis belong in the Hall of Fame?

>>75939248
no, go away

>>75939274
yes

How many other MVPs have gone from MVP to shit in a season other than Cam Newton?

>>75939422
rich gannon

>>75939438
Gannon got hurt the year after, he didn't fall off

>>75939451
cam was hurt in 2016 as well

>>75939471
Nah he just regressed to above average. It happens to all the athletic dudes. Cam will be out of the league in 5 years time. A sb is out of the question.

>>75939190
I hope you're right, anon. No ringless QB in the league deserves it more than Rivers.

>>75939190
On the one hand, I'd be happy for him and the team; on the other, it would be SO fucking Chargers to leave San Diego to go and win their first Owl.

Fuck Spanos.

>>75939553
>players "deserve" a ring
'no'

>>75939422
Kurt Warner fell off a cliff after 2001, a lot of mvps do actually, especially the running backs.

>>75939589
>Plays and remains loyal to the franchise with the worst management in the league
>Exceptional, HoF talent with true love for the sport
>Stuck with team through the good and the (mostly) bad times
>Had shit for coaches and GMs all career
>Finally has a Super Bowl Caliber squad and runs into the 18-1 Patriots, aka one of the greatest teams ever assembled

>>75939646
you forgot
>originally drafted by the Giants
18-1 could've been caused by Philip Rivers

>>75939646
>players "deserve a ring
'no'

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What the fuck did you just say about kickers, anon?

>>75939680
Rivers never would have memed his way into winning an important playoff game

>>75939883
If only he'd tackle
;-:

>>75939646
His team lost against the Reche Caldwell Patriots a year before, at home, with the best record in the league and a record-breaking season by Tomlinson. You'd think that roster was more talented.

>>75939422
>you now remember Shawn Alexander went from breaking the total TD record for a RB to literally never reaching 4 yards per carry again

>>75939542
Didn't he have shoulder surgery after the season?

>>75934412
Where's vick?

>>75940396
>tfw no cooter

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>>75940396
Haven't followed the Lions in detail but what's the reason for the drop off in his performance during the 2nd half of the season?

>>75940468
He's just not that good

>>75940543
Not saying he is but I guess there's more than "he's bad" to explain why he went from being maybe top 10 his first, what... 20? games with the new OC and then fall off a cliff with the same OC, mostly same players around him and such.

>>75940603
He broke a finger on his throwing arm under centre pretty badly. Worse than what happened carr. Don't listen to that other retard.

the hitting is still shit we down etc. etc. gardeners with their knives at Jim Cranes throat

>>75941143

wow fuck off wrong thread faggot

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>>75931634
keep telling yourself that

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Say something nice about your division rivals because being nice is nice.

Seattle: Cool stadium and very good looking home uniforms
Rams: Good helmet design
49ers: Letting da burs trade the farm for their pic was pretty smart

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>>75941957
Giants: Eli is likeable
Eagles: Have the least hateable owner in the division
Redskins: Cousins and Kerrigan are likeable

If Greg Olsen has another 1,000 yard season is he worthy of consideration for the HoF?

>>75942646
How many TDs does he have to his name?

>>75942646
No