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JAMES RODRIGUEZ "has reached initial agreement to join Manchester

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So it begins... the greatest transfer window football has ever seen.
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>players unironically want to play Mou bus ball

Fucking why
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>>75865749
>its another manure gets ripped off episode
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You'd think manure learned something from last years worst transfer in the history of football.
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>>75865749
Dabchester United buying another useless piece of shit for exhorbitant money the third year in a row
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>>75865799
>players unironically wanting to get paid millions of pounds to live in a sort of developed country and play for a team with no expectations because all their fans are afraid they will get called a SAF bandwagoner if they question why Europa League is the aim for a 1.5 billion pound team
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James is actually good

Watch /sp/ be wrong
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no one cares fag
man utd wins the transfer window
chelsea wins the league
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HHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAH
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>mfw looking at the SEETHING ABUs in this thread

James is better than Bale, Benzema and Isco. He makes the difference in the big games like the clasico.
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hes affraid
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>>75865919
Watch fat Azzah come back after the summer with his arse barely fitting in his shorts. Chelsea will collapse again. They're a meme team that won the league because they didn't have the distractions of the CL. Just like Leicester.
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>>75865996
Are you implying that chelsea never won the league whilst playing in the ucl? Really activates my almonds.
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>>75865749
RIP Hamez
he had more future as a benchwarmer of fucking castilla with odegaard than he will have in manure. thank god we have good CB prospects, cause our AMC died
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How much will they pay for him 70M+? Kek.
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>>75865846
>worst transfer in the history of football.
That's not

>Shevchenko to Chelsea
>Torres to Chelsea
>Kaka to Madrid
>Falcão to Monaco
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>>75866048
No just that the current and recent PL title 'races' seem to really favour teams that aren't also contesting CL football.
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>>75866163

>Falcão to Monaco
what did YOU mean by this
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>>75866141
Real Madrid willing to sell at €35m says one report. Worth a punt tbqh.
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he should go back to france babby league, only chance he has of rebuilding a good reputation
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Nothing will top 2009 or 2013's transfer window madness
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>>75866287
or a one team league like Jewve or Buyern, after all Ancelotti loves him; going to manure is killing his career
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>>75866239
60mi in 2013 money.
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>>75866163
>no Chygrynskiy to Barca
>no Zlatan to Barca
>no Di Maria to Man Utd
>no Andy Carroll to Liverpool
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Literally Di Maria 2.0

Expecting a 20 million loss after he fucks off to Monaco or China within a year.
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>>75866297
I remember 2009's summer galactico madness. What happened in 2013?
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>>75866361
It is hard to beat Shevchenko to Chelsea.
43million Euros, in 2006 money.
Played like crap.
Caused the team to lose young Mourinho.

Kaka to Madrid was basically paying 68mi in 2009 money for someone who was always injured.
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>>75866163
lmao
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>>75865940
>seething ABUs
>ManU relegated to the losers bracket (Europa league) again this year

Kek ManU is DONE
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>>75866516
Shevchenko was underwhelming but he actually scored more goals that people remember. Everyone was just let down because they expected Ballon D'or Sheva.

Torres was a disaster.
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>colombian press making shit up
Must be a horrible sensation that your best player ever is just a benchwarmer
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>>75866582
Chelsea were going through without that goal. The game was over. That season belonged to Drogba, who somehow managed to win the CL through sheer will and desire.
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>>75865875
>manchester
>sort of developed

??????
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>>75866361
>veron to manure
>40mi in early 00s
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>>75865940
>not even a player
>already sucking him
Your love for the marketing is real isnt it lad
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>>75866591
S E E T H I N G
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>>75866617
>9 league goals
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>>75866666
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>>75866669
yeah but is heresy to say something like that about him here on 4chen, he blessed this place
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>>75866131
P-p-ponga a Ja-ja-james maldito portugués
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>>75866724
14 goals isn't THAT bad. The PL was decent back then.
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>>75866775
4 league goals is horrible
scoring a bunch of goals against a bunch of factory workers in the cup doesn't make up for it
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>>75865799
Mou-ball is an acquired patrician taste.
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>>75866754
https://youtu.be/ZD6m0sqGU24
a classic
pue hm pue hm puesquepuesquepuesquena hm
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>>75866838
Sure. But he still got 14 goals in his first season. Torres got 12 across his first season and a half.
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He'll flop and move back to Monaco in no time
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>>75866896
Does he have a speech impediment?
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>>75866898
Torres was disgraceful
that doesn't mean Sheva was "not that bad", he was terrible too, just slightly less than Torres
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>>75866960
Ok I concede that he was a bit shit. I actually thought he'd scored more before I looked it up. Torres was a travesty though.
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>>75866903
Monaco are too good for rejects these days.
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>>75865948
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K02Cxo3fAC8
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I hate seeing him let go, but fuck it, waddaya gonna do, he's just unfit for every system Zidane uses:

>4-5-1
too slow for the wings, too soft for the center, can only be used against weaker teams

>4-3-1-2
Isco is simply better at the 10 because of his dribbling skills

>4-4-2
finally, one formation that suits him, he could play behind the striker, but there are Tsuman and Algerzema, hence Zidane uses him on the wings here as well, just like in 4-5-1

Pigletto Pigcelotti unironically brought the best out of him when he played that excellent Isco-Kroos-Modrić-James midfield back in '14/15.
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>>75866917
Hes a stutterer, but he improved a lot, when he came to Real Madrid was way worst than today.
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>>75865749

How much are we going to spend on him?
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Never seen him play desu but watching Isco v Atleti was nice, makes me wonder if we're getting the right one
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>>75866871
absolutely this

t.Brazilian
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>>75867606
Problem with James is he is not getting time play because of Isco, who is better than him, and Asensio is coming who looks really really good. But the colombian is a good player who could bring a very needed creativity to ManU.
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mou wants chicharito, he's coming home la'
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>Signing another winger/attacking mid
>Signing a World Cup meme player

Why?
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>>75866163
Yeah, Shevchenko is possibly the worst transfer ever.
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>>75865749
he's probably the least mourinho player ever. he'll end up at milan after a season
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>>75867519
Not sure how Mou intends to use him at United. He's a classic no10 but that means Pogba playing in a midfield 2.
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>>75867739
you're right he's coming home to LAFC to make a lot of money and do fan service for the Chicano masses
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>>75867853
Mourinho's transfer record is very good.
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>>75867992
isnt woodward in charge?
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>>75867972
Pogba is yesterdays news. He can go back to Juventus.
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>inb4 overpaid and underperforming
never change cucknited
Enjoy your assblasting on the 24th too
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Hello where are the deluded United starting XIs
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>>75866163
>105M for a player you let go for free
Maybe it's not worse than some of those but it's much more hilarious
Definitely one of the worst ever tho
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>>75867972
nobody cares about pogba anymore
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>>75865948
*blocks your path*
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>going to a CL-less team
Why tho
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>>75868322
i think chelseas about to do that with lukaku to a lesser extent
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From bench to bench.
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>>75868013
No. He loves spending money but he's still going after the players he's told to get by the managers.
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>RCN
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>>75868540
The same reason Pogba left an easy league title every year
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>>75868839
what is that suppose to mean?
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>>75865749
Who?
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>>75869022

It's the name of an awful news network/channel
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>>75868861
>serie a easier than eplel
>bayern or juve wouldnt win eplel by february
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>>75869129
Bayern would dominate the EPL
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>>75869129
Old-men Bayern would get Pulis'd in the premier league. Half the squad would be out injured all season.
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>>75869220
>le eplel is tuffer than other leagues meemee

it's a glorified sunday league and the laughing stock of the football world senpai. Once you arrive in 21th century you'll value football intelligence over >le bald rugby player CM angrily running at you
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>>75869129
You're missing his point. Serie A is easier for Juve than the epl is for any english club. Not necessarily because Serie A as a whole is weaker. You sign for Juve, you get a guaranteed league title medal, even if you don't play a single minute.
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>>75866582
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In all seriousness, why is Mourinho's job not considered to be in danger after failing to make the top 4 with the highest-paid and most-expensive team in all of sports (except for the LA Dodgers in Major League Baseball)? That's an astonishing failure. With the money Man United have spent they should easily be on par with Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern, Juve....but they're in 6th place in the Premier League, 12 points behind Tottenham (a club with literally half their revenue), and I think most people would be betting on Tottenham to beat them this weekend.

>>75866582
Come on, Torres was fucking awful for Chelsea, scoring some Europa League goals and one CL goal when he was all alone with the keeper does not make up for that in the slightest.
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>>75866163
>not veron to manure
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>>75870686
Soccer fans quite literally have the lowest IQ on average. No surprise it does well in third-world countries. Don't try to apply logic to anything in this game.
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James is a great player but he should go to a decent club like Chelsea not manure
he'll be the best player in England
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Ham-ehs is trash. Literally only rated because of a lucky blooter in the World Cup.
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>world class, ludicrously paid players continue to filter in and out of Man U
>they continually place out of the top 4

how the hell is this possible
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>>75873265
And he hardly did shit since then.

I love how invisible he becomes against Argentina every time
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>>75873287
Despite what Americans fear, buying the best players in the world isn't an instant road to victory
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>>75873265
>>75873310
Are we all forgetting that James was the #1 midfielder in La Liga in his first season there? He clearly doesn't fit Zidane's system, but that doesn't make him a bad player. Just an overspecialized one. He would be terrific for a team that actually uses a #10.
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>>75873343

but not even making the top 4 against shite competition

it's anti-good
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>Meanwhile Mexican press still insist that Mourinho want's Chicharito back in the Manchester

Would be cool tho
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>>75866650
top lel
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>>75873343
explain the 20th century yankees
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Side question.

Would Zlatan still get a medal if Man utd wins Europa?
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>>75865940
This

He has showed he has great potential, he is still young and being at Madrid he has definitely gotten experience and thus will be a great asset to ManU
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>>75874490
yeah, he is "still" in the registered squad.
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>>75865749
>le ocassional blooter agains shit Lel Liga opponent man
I have literally never seen him have a good game against good competition
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>>75865749
Florentino does it again. Has any other man ever cucked ManU so hard?
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>>75865940
>James is better than Bale, Benzema and Isco
He is not even better than Asensio
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>>75874955
Fooling someone into paying over 105 million for >pogba is quite an achievement too
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>>75869193

no.
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>>75869346

>hans going this far out of his way to defend his 1 team babby league

top lyl
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>>75875022
10-2 to Arzsenal
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>>75875057

>arsekek is a good team

stop
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>>75874974
>Buys Ronaldo for peanuts
>Steals Modric for ever going to United
>Steals Bale
>Sells Di Maria for 3 times his price tag
>Sells a useless player for *insert huge quantity*
Florentino killed ManU as a big team
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>>75874974
>pays 27M to the agent of the player just to broke the deal with United
>Juventus ends up receiving 73M for the biggest transfer in history, which is less than the market value of the player
>somehow not cucked
the state of Slovakia

http://politiken.dk/sport/art5942444/Topagent-skulle-skabe-%C2%BBhype%C2%AB-og-%C2%BBbudkrig%C2%AB-i-verdens-dyreste-fodboldhandel
https://www.transfermarkt.com/paul-pogba/profil/spieler/122153
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>>75875156
>deal so retarded FIFA started investigating it because they don't believe someone would pay so much for the dabbing Sissoko
>unironically paying over 105 million for 20-25m midfielder who doesn't make any difference and disappears against PL relegation shitters or Moldovian EL teams
http://www.espnfc.com/english-premier-league/23/blog/post/3122932/trending-fifa-investigate-pogba-transfer-as-juventus-into-ucl-final
There are transfers flops discussed ITT, and >pogba really is an exceptional case. With Kaka, Shevchenko or Torres it was different, because they were legitimately world class players and simply failed to adjust (Sheva) or were crippled by injuries (Kaka). Pogba on the other hand isn't a flop, because right now he plays at the peak of his capabalities, as anyone who watched him regulary knew before he transfered. With that kind of price he was doomed for failure and ridicule, because he's simply not worth even remotely such sum.
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>>75875118
Thank you, Florentino. But lets not forget about the ultimate ABU Eddie Woodward
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>>75875229
>torres
>kaka
>schevchenko
>personal slovakian avaluations of a players value
nobody cares. you lost. you've been trying to meme that Marotta was actually the one cucking United. turns out he had to accept 73M for a 80M 23 year-old player, the dictionary-definition of being cucked.

Juventus and Slovakia eternally btfo.
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so when can I expect the official Manchester United fan shop to sell us lifelong fans James kits?
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>>75875298
>being THIS agitated early in the morning
Man, Conte winning the league really did some damage to you. I haven't been memeing anything, half the board was laughing at Manure all the way since August and all >pogba did was prove them right. Ever wondered why no other clubs made serious offers for Juve to consider, let alone a world-record breaking one? Because everyone with half a brain (which immediately excludes Manure transfer team) knew he's a fraud, passenger in a great midfield with world class defence behind. He'd be a reasonable purchase for someone with established quality - like Bayern - who needs to add some flair and unpredictability for lets say 30 million. Manure wanted a reliable playmaker and got pretty much the opposite
>for over 105 million
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>>75875380
BASED
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>>75875340
>already possess the designated shirt-seller to pakis and assorted muslims
>now buying the designated shirt-seller to Latinos, where Manure trail behind Barca and Madrid
Does anyone still consider Man©heste® United™ to be a football club? They're sports themed merchandise corporation
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>>75875387
Not being overly harsh on >mouyesbro today, he's been seething about Conte fixing the catastrophy >mouyes left behind since autumn. Bad day for him
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>>75875380
>I haven't been memeing anything,
but >>75874974
>Fooling someone into paying over 105 million for >pogba is quite an achievement too´
>Marotta picture on the phone

Face it, chap. He's a cuck.
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>>75875416
That's not a meme, but a fact. Not the biggest flop - Pogba was never elite to begin with - but the worst transfer in history definitely. Can't blame >pogba himself, but the idiots who paid so much
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>>75875507
I'm sorry, it's just that I can't stop laughing, can't even get into a Pogba discussion right now

>market value is 80
>receives 73
>23 years of age
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>>75875583
Somehow I don't think you're very amused in real life, despite your efforts to appear so.
>pogba being the laughing stock of English football
>Manure 6th (sixth)
>mouyes barely drawing his way to EL final past Ok Tractor, Anderlel and 12th team in Sunny Liga
If the market value even remotely resemebled what he's worth, how come he ended up in Manure instead in one of the top clubs? Do you recall anyone bidding 70 or 80 million? His current value on (((transfermarkt))) is 105 million, I think that fact alone proves how far from reality it is.
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>>75875583
you do realise that market value isnt what transfermarkt says?
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>>75875583
>market value is 80
pesos
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>>75875657
lmao
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>>75875645
A players market value reflects more than just his playing skill. You have to consider his "brand" and Pogba is a massive brand outside of /sp/ autists world.
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>>75865749
> it's a manchester united overpaying for a benchwarmer episode
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>>75875682
If you want to pay 100m for a branding gimmick just bribe FIFA to that manure win the 2018 world cup in russia fuck
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>>75875682
That benefits Adidas no doubt (who keep shirt sales to themselves) but is of little use to a sinking club like Manure who desperately needed 3 different elite players for the same money. When Real Madrid bought Hamez to increase their profile in South America, they could have afforded it both finance-wise and what they already had at their disposal quality-wise. And now the designated shirt-seller and benchwarmer moves to Manure, who would have seen it comming...
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>>75875761
the worst part is that if that information is true he'll end like DiMaria 2.0, not adapting in his first season and leaving for a better club in a comfier city for half the value
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>>75866682
ever been to manchester?
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>>75873245
This, Hamez would be perfect for Conte's 3-4-3 as Pedro's replacement on the right wing. And he's known for revitalizing players who had bad periods, look what he's done to Luiz or Hazard. >mouyes will ruin the poor guy for good
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>>75875761
Manure has been a sinking club for 5+ years and they are still third most valuablw club in the world. Results may be missing but people are still buying shirts.
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>>75866896
holy shit the people laughing in the back
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>>75875785
>DiMaria 2.0
Unfortunately, that's what I bet is going to happen when he actually agrees on that transfer. >mouyes can't utilize #10, no matter how world class they are. Got rid of Ozil, got rid of Mata, and that he has Mata again he doesn't want him.
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>>75875645
no, the value on transfermarkt is 80M, that was the source I used, which is the only reputable public source for such info. Ultimately the "real market value" is defined by what is payed from one club to the other, in this case 73M, underpriced relative to the public market value.

Which is funny.
>>75875795
>he's shit if he goes to manure, great if he goes to Chelsea
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>>75875802
that's true, but you must have noticed the trajectory has been reversed recently.
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>>75865749
United buying constant flops classic keep it coming, best transfer window ever!!
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>>75875802
Then we come back to --> >>75875400
I don't doubt Poobag is doing wonderful numbers on social media and marketing spreadsheets.
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why do united suddenly have money

i thought the glazers were bleeding the club dry
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>>75875817
He'd be great at Chelsea because he'd fit the system and manager, are you retarded?
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>>75875864
to substitute Hazard? he's not a winger, you do realize that, no?
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>>75875817
Hold on a moment, so the conclusion you've come to is that Pogba was underpriced? Top comedy.
You might be partially right about the real value being what clubs pay, but this definitely excludes Manure because they aren't a club. If there were several suitors with similiar offers, then perhaps. Scamming Woodward to hell and back has become a sport between directors of football.
>Hamez
Quality player that's been stagnating because he isn't played regulary and probably has very low confidence. Exactly the material Conte would turn into one of the top performers, but will suffer even more under >mouyes.
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>>75875888
No, to replace Pedro
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>>75875822
>EL final
>this is somehow "reversed trajectory"
Yeah, sweating until the closing seconds against 3rd-tier clubs with 5% the comparable value on your favorite transfermarkt sure is a huge leap forward.
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>>75875814
Mou didn't get rid of Ozil. Real Madrid sold him after Mou left for Chelsea. Ozil was probably the best no10 in the world playing under Mourinho.
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>>75875892
>implying offers from clubs are public
all we have is Real Madrid reportedly interested, and that does not lead anywhere because anyone can report anything they want
>>75875901
and Hamez is not a winger, silly, slovakbro is just joking.
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>>75875927
>
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>>75875888
We were talking about being Pedro's replacement, what is wrong with you today? Hamez has played on wing before, and 3-4-3 is more like 3-4-2-1 with two attacking midfielders anyway, he's fitting the system next to Hazard. And as Anon >>75875864 points out he'd benefit playing under Conte who fixes mental cancer - look what he's done to Chelsea >mouyes nearly got relegated.
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>>75875927
My bad. But there's probably a reason why Real Madrid improved after they got rid off both >mouyes and Ozil.
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>>75875935
Yeah sure, so there were secret offers from all the top clubs and yet we've only known about Manure getting ready to get scammed horrendously weeks before it was official. Sure
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>>75875844
So? You didnt mind him doing that while he was at Pooventus.
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>>75875927
t. arselel fan
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>>75875229
>Hating on POgba
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>>75875924
it is because they were a club in decline for 5 years like bosniakanon said, and now they reached an european final, which was last achieved precisely 6 years ago
>muh celta is not good enough
it's the competition they played, it's not like they were qualified for the champions league.

Reverse means the decline stopped. And, in this particular case, that it's rising again, as shown by the trophies won and the european final reached
>>75875946
he's not a winger, he's a pure nº10. anyone following RM knows the reason he doesn't play in Madrid is because his quality is only evident when he has a free attacking role, which would mean replacing hazard. which would be silly.

>>75875968
I don't know if there were offers and don't care. told you not in the mood for a discussion of Paul's worth. and we both know we agree on that
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Heard from a reliable source that they're interested in Totti too
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Pogba's father died last night.
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>>75875983
Juventus can't into marketing, why do you think they're changing the badge and trail behind fucking Memelan at number of fans? Therefore Pogba was useless to them, and selling him was by far the smartest move
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>>75866163
>you now remember Julien Faubert to Real Madrid
wew
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>>75876044
I remberber (You) praising Pogba at Juve and supporting your posts with "stats".
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>>75876093
>doesn't understand the gimmick
If you can't keep up with the latest spuh story lines you should leave
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>>75876029
>european final
*EL final, not exactly comparable to CL achievements is it? And what I was pointing out is how miserably they played against competition that should theoretically be far below them, and yet Celta were Guidetti's miss into open net away from knocking Manure out.
>he's a pure nº10
And yet played some of the best matches on the wing >>75867519 (last sentence). Once again, 3-4-3 doesn't use classic wingers, not even Hazard or Pedro played that role this season. They're attacking midfielders cutting inside, which would be ideal for left-footed Hamez.
>not in the mood
>don't care
Well, then I'm not entirely convinced Pogba is worth that much, considering no one even attempted to buy him - even for much less. Kek.
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>>75876041
Wow, he was 55 years older than his son
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the Latino market is Madrid v Farca not even James or shitarito could change that
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>>75875927
>Ozil was probably the best no10 in the world playing under Mourinho.
this is true. Ozil was probably the best Mourinho move in Madrid, after his legacy, Modric.
>having a deadly finisher with WC off the ball movement, like tsunaldo
>bring a young talented final-passer like Ozil
>lazyness issues not a problem, because, well, it's Mourinho pushing him
Ozil had 10 assists per season, directly to Tsunaldo, which is impressive.
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>>75867587

£70m
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>>75865749

nice, another above average laliga reject player that's going to style in the EPLel for the next 4 seasons.

trust me I'm an expert on this.
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>>75876093
Last time I praised him was the end of 14/15 season, when he was still a very young talent with potential to improve. Didn't use stats back then either. Little did I know that's his peak, and when it was his time to step up in 15/16 when Marchisio and Khedira were injured he'd "lead" Juve into 5th place in December. Luckily Dybala started GOATing it up and saved the season, along with actual midfielders comming back from injuries.
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>>75876171
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>>75876121
again, you can't play CL if you don't qualify. relax, Mou won't fail us. trust me.
>miserably
nobody cares. get over it

>Pedro not playing as a classical winger
>laughing.jpg

>not knowing who attempted to buy him is the same as nobody did
I have no clue what's wrong with you today to make such basic mistakes. Are you genuinely concerned now that Conte won the PL he'll return to Juventus and tarnish their european ambitions? I know Marotta is kind of silly, but why would he do that, if they already know him? Besides, the info is that it's Inter that's interested
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>>75876171

ummmmm
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>>75876025
Shouldn't have gone to Manure, otherwise I'd wish him luck like with others who left Juve (Conte, Vidal)
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>>75876121
>And yet played some of the best matches on the wing
he played as a 10, under Ancelotti. Just like in Monaco and Porto. Pedro, regardless if he cuts inside, or crosses is and plays as a winger. you couldn't be more wrong about this one.
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>>75876044
>Juventus cant into marketing

https://youtu.be/skKBB0jA7y8

Yeah nah, they used every tactic in the book so they know how to marketing. But stuff like Calciopoli and the fact that they are still run by mafia affects the effectiveness of said marketing. Which is why they are changing their badge, in an attempt to rebrand themselves.
You have a good point, Juve had an underused asset in Pogba and the best thing was to sell him to the highest bidder. But you should stop pretending that United somehow fucked up by buying him.
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>>75876287

Juve's fanbase is pretty terrible
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>>75876234
>nobody cares. get over it
Manure fans should, because these performances are quite convincing indicator of quality. Very, very far from the top clubs, probably why they're sixth in the table.
>Pedro not playing as a classical winger
>laughing.jpg
There are no classic wingers when you use advanced wingback like Moses, once again proving your tactical "knowledge" from FIFA, >mouyesbro
>this seething about Juventus out of nowhere instead of reasoning >poobag's value
I'll ask again - how come we've known about Manure getting scammed for hundred million with reports from everywhere for more than a month, and nothing else? If someone was more than just marginally interested, it would be known. Therefore the argument "he's worth what clubs are willing to pay" falls apart, since no one was that retarded. Manure don't count as a club for obvious reasons
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>>75876250
I love how you left out assists, goals, possession score, defence score, passing accuracy, fouls commited and half a dozen of stats useful for CMs, yet felt it was necessary to include headed goals, clearances, aerial duels, fouls and total passes.
9/10
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>Hamos and Greaseman in one transfer window
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>>75876287

Juve fans are glory hunters, when they went to Serie B like 90% of their fanbase left and only recently when they got successful again did they come back
Compare thatto a team like Newcaste who have hateable owners, hateable fanbase and hateable managers yet are still pulling in the fans
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>>75876268
>Ancelotti
>4-2-3-1
Getting rid of >mouyes' archaic 4-2-3-1 with #10 is why he won a CL.
http://www.managingmadrid.com/2014/2/17/5417862/carlo-ancelotti-and-a-history-of-the-4-3-3
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>>75876340

>Beats them in total score
>B-b-b-b-b-but these other stats

Clutching at straws
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>>75875790
I think he's arguing that utd is like a third world country lad
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>>75876287
What does the link prove exactly? I said they can't into marketing, not that they don't attempt it. Call me when they foucs their whole activity on pandering to chinks and pakis instead of improving their team, then I'll get mad.
>stop pretending that United somehow fucked up by buying him
Have you seen him play? I don't think it's even debatable it's the worst transfer in history.
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>>75876390

Not like #jj, pandering to asians is blow them
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>>75876316
The only person who is seething in this thread is you, trying to shit on a world class player just because his red Chevrolet jersey is selling million times better than his black and white Jeep one.
SAD!
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>>75876316
Manure fans can fuck themselves. they got the quality performances on the irrelevant home league matches, at the beginning of the seasons they'll be begging Mou to be more pragmatic
>There are no classic wingers
read this >>75876268
I meant winger, not classical winger. Pedro is a winger because he plays on the line and uses speed to create unbalances. James uses his quality, and therefore plays on the center. receives the ball on the center and creates damage from there.
Speed /= quality in short spaces
>it would be known.
No it wouldn't. I could show you garbage,
http://futbol.as.com/futbol/2016/07/21/primera/1469063790_938059.html
but nobody knows if a club is really interested in a player until a deal is made.
>>75876363
>unironically quoting a fan website as an argument
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>>75876377
Not an issue when he can statpad with a billion useless short passes. At key passing and creating chances (his actual job) he's well behind Pjanic, be it the current season in PL where he has better stats than he had at Juve, or the 15/16 season in Serie A. And lets not even bother bringing up performances in european competitions, where Pjanic dominated Barcelona's midfield and >pogba decided his team can win against Moldovian vodka distillers without his aid.
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>>75876428

Bad post, I can never be bothered to read your essays
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>>75876394
>the same Indonesia tour posted for the 14th time
My "Manure paki" folder grows with every single zoom at the crowd in Old Trafford lmao
>>75876404
I love how you labeled him "world class", yet the only argument you've produced in this thread is marketing appeal - several times. Good stuff
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>>75876363
>archaic systems
again with this conversation. system don't matter, each manager has his favorite and then what really counts is the adaptability the manager has. And Mourinho has proven time and time again his, the most recent Cucked One was our good friend Antonio 2-0 Conte.
Mou didn't win the CL because he was unlucky, he asked for one more quality player to reduce the luck factor, Bale, but Florentino's policy is that big name signings are made in election years. Mourinho left, Florentino was re-elected, bought Bale, and they won.
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>>75876468

I don't now why you keep going through the motions with this. Do you enjoy it
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>>75876425
>Manure fans can fuck themselves
Can't disagree :^)
>Pedro
Moving into wide areas alone doesn't qualify you as a winger either, how often do you see Hazard or Pedro spamming crosses? That's what wingback are for in that system, the inside forwards create spaces by dribbling and create chances with through balls. That's what Hamez would do, and what he's done in Madrid back when he had chances.
>No it wouldn't
When a serious offer is made, especially for a player popular in media like Poobag, it's leaked without an excpetion. Remeber De Gea to Madrid two years ago? Remember Bale? All there was regarding Poobag was that Chelsea and Madrid inquired, were told he'll be expensive and they lost any interest. Understandably
>quoting a fan website
Kek, are you going to claim Ancelotti used 4-2-3-1 at Madrid, seriously? 4-3-3 and 4-4-2, every fool knows this.
http://theinsidechannel.com/guide-real-madrids-4-3-3-carlo-ancelotti/
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2307814-setting-out-carlo-ancelottis-best-real-madrid-midfield-setup-for-rest-of-season
Or look up the formations on any website that tracks matches
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>>75876434
>reading and thinking hurts my paki brain too much
No wonder you ended up supporting a club that panders to you the most
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>>75876468
Others have produced relevant arguments about his ability. I meant "world class" reputation-wise.
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>>75876434
>that pic
Wow. Shows you that there's not THAT big a difference between good players and average players.
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>>75866163
>Mendieta to Lazio
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So basically manure are going to ruin another promising young player?
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>>75876514
I don't know buddy, looking at the league table or FA Cup final programme doesn't make me think Conte is the one who got cucked, not at all. Similary, it's interesting how both Spurs and Arsenal switched to Conte's system and are above Manure.
>mouyes at Madrid
Ancient history, I doubt they miss him much. Chelsea fans don't, we know that for certain
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>>75876542

Can't wait for Juve to lose another CL desu
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He should come to Arsenal 2bh
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>>75876546
>Others have produced relevant arguments about his ability
Not really, but I understand why you don't attempt it yourself
>reputation-wise
He's popular, no doubt about that. So is Balotelli, ironically enough a player with almost identical mental quality
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>>75876528
like I said, there were leaks about RM interest in Pogba. Also Andre Gomes. it's not reliable. Manure is linked with dozens of players every transfer window.

>Ancelloti
m8, your sites don't even mention James.
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So mou doesn't have any say in this transfer window?
I guess this kind of treatment is what he hates the most though
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>>75876628
>PTSD'd so hard you start hating a club based solely on the fact your bully supports them
Man, you must have been traumatized in high school badly
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>>75876614
he got cucked last time they faced each other. his system was worthless, and he spent 90m + the interval looking into the void, with no idea what to do. system baby, exposed by the first real opposition he faced, unable to react.
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>>75876612
>young
He is almost 27 and he has the worst physical form I have witnessed since fatnaldo when he became obese.He can't run after 3 sprints
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>>75876704
holy shit wut

I thought he was maybe 20 at the last WC
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>>75876669
>Manure is linked with dozens of players every transfer window
But when an actual bid is made, you know about it well before the transfer officially takes place. Same with any other popular club. It's a fact, I've been following all the Juve transfer news very closely for a long time and Manure are the only ones who seriously attempted the purchase. Madrid or Chelsea wouldn't pay 50 million, let alone twice that.
>your sites don't even mention James
That's because he barely established himself as a starter. He was RW both in 4-3-3 and 4-4-2
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>>75876614
>I doubt they miss him much
they're extremely happy with the work he did there. florentino manages the club well, so they're still reaping the rewards of his 3-year,-longer-than-anyone-else-there-stint.
>Chelsea fans
Again with caring about fans opinions. Why do you think they matter?
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>>75876703
Yeah, exposed all the way to the double, something Mouyes never did with Chelsea
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>>75876703
>lost the last time
Good for him, the league results are so hopeless that a meaningless loss for Conte is probably the highlight of the season for >mouyes. Just shows who is the man on the rise, and who is the petty, bitter old man in hard decline
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>>75876721
I just look it up.He will be 26 this year.He is not a young player either way.This is his prime and physically he is a disaster
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James is shit gonna be another Di Maria i could name Dozens of better players we need
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>buying halal's rejects after reject after reject: di maria, ozil, jajames...
Why clubs doing this?
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>>75876764
So Madrid's CLs rightfully belong to >mouyes, just like the current Chelsea is his work? Tell us
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>>75876788
tbf Di Maria was playing out of his mind in 2014 as he wanted a big contract.Jajamemes on the other hand is the third option in his position behind Isco and 21 years old kid called Asensio.If Yanited pays more than 30 million for Jajamemes they are getting robbed
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>>75876788
>we
Just out of curiosity, who would (You) want at Manure?
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>>75876817
We should be going for Koke

>Mfw Pogba and Koke with Herrera holding :O
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>>75876833
I think that Koke is a system baby.He probably could fit in England as he is not your typical Spanish classy midfielder, but he is Herrera 2.0
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>>75876826
Rodriguez from Wolfsburg would be a good shout and Gareth Bale
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>>75876845
Last time i watched Spain against France he was ur best passer he looked great
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stupid abu's once we win the europa league our grorious quadruple will be complete
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>>75876845
>System baby
Yeah but Atletico and United are both bus parkers
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>>75876855
I don't think he is brilliant.He is an Herrera kind of player with better shooting,work ethic and passing.He might fit in an English team but I wouldn't consider him a WC player
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>>75876847
>Bale

What's the point? He's passed his peak and gets injured every other game. I'd also prefer Bernardo Silva to James. He's gonna be a super player.
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>>75876879
Do people in Spain still have hope for Juan Mata in the NT or is he down the pecking order now
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>>75876886
He is, but in a less physical league
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>>75876899
No one ever thought highly of him.He was always a bench warmer in the NT and was not good enough for Madrid or Barça nationally.
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>>75876899
Also Isco,Asensio, Saúl and all the young players have totally eclipsed Mata in the NT
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>>75876886
Bale works better in the premier than in la liga.He has more space to do his speedy mong thing in the premier league.He should go back and any English team would benefit from having a player like that
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>>75876738
If that satisfy you, Pogba was linked with Madrid, repeatedly. I showed you the link. Madrid's reasoning is that one of Modric and Kroos would have to be benched and they're winners now (mourinho was there, remember), why mess with a CL winning team? florentino is not irrational
>That's because he barely established himself as a starter. He was RW both in 4-3-3 and 4-4-2
he played in 2014, mostly:
when Bale was injured as a 10 in 4-4-2 with tsu and benz upfront
when Bale was not injured in 4-2-3-1, as a 10, in the easy matches.
He never played as a winger. you're messing with the chelseafags, the new zealand guy actually believed you he would fullfil Pedro's role
>>75876775
actually a man on the rise doesn't allow himself to be cucked like that. the embarrassment was watched by the entire world. pic related is imprinted in the colective memory of the footballing world and associated to Conte's name for years to come. you need to reach a certain status in the game, to be able to throw a match, like a first loss against Arsenal after more than a decade and then poke fun of them as a club in the press conference
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>>75876802
not on the paper, but the club knows and recognizes Mou's importance in the 10th, 11th and 12th decimas. want to hear florentino say it?
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>>75876909
Best posts ITT so far
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>>75876971
Yeah that's why his last season went without trophies, because of the great work done by Mouyes
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>>75876886
We've got literally zero options on our Right Wing, Bale would be perfect
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>>75866917
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mClE9L7R4E
He stutters when he is nervous
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>>75876997
Real would want £80m for him. He already rejected a move to United in 2013. Fuck paying that for a player who's now injury prone and 4 years older.
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>>75876956
>Pogba was linked with Madrid
And they decided not to bid a sum "in the region between 50-60 million", same with Chelsea. It took clueless morons of Manure's calibre to pay... twice that!
>4-2-3-1
Ancelotti didn't use it
>4-4-2
There's no #10 in 4-2-2, Jesus Christ lmao
>He never played as a winger
He did actually, a left one on several occassions under Ancelotti. His role at Madrid was right inside forward, the same he would do for Chelsea. Of course this is all useless talk, since he's going to Manure to kill off his career for good with >mouyes
>colective memory of the footballing world
I'd say pic related is not only more memorable than Conte putting a hat on, but also the most memorable moment of entire season.
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Not really excited by the prospect of this but Mou has good record with no10s. Oscar being the exception.
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>>75877040
I can't stand another year of Jesse fucking Lingard, we could go for Ferreria Carrasco if not Bale
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>>75876996
Kek
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>>75877078
>What is the diamond formation
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>>75877079
Sneijder is not like James though.He is more like Ozil, and Ozil was a system baby that relied on counter attacks.James doesn't have Ozil's pace either.
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>>75877107
Something distinctively different from 4-4-2, lay off FIFA you paki. Not what Ancelotti used at Madrid either, it was a flat four
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>>75877131
Seeing as ur so knowledgable on Italian football you should now that Kaka destroyed ur league in a 4-4-2 with Milan for years, or dya get PTSD from that?

B-but Muh Del Piero.. Overrated Hack
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>>75877148
A diamond formation, or 4-3-1-2 depending on how you qualify Pirlo.
>the absolute state of FIFA-playing pakis attempting to join a football discussion
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>>75877078
>signed the best midfielder in the world at age 23
>clueless

>again ignoring the impossibility of having 3 unbeachable players for 2 positions.
RM will probably snatch him after 3 years of Mourinho schooling, when Modric (funny, another Mou signing) is old, but by then he'll be more expensive and will leave all the titles in the club, under Mou's name. sounds like a good business to me.
>There's no #10 in 4-2-2, Jesus Christ lmao
>what is diamond formation?

> since he's going to Manure to kill
he has good quality and goal from a non-striker position, that United desperately needs, but I think Mou prefers the grease, because he's more hard-working has and less pretensions to being a star. And the grease scores more goals than Hames.

>more memorable
well, it started there, you if want. Mourinho figured out Conte's lack of class. That's the moment Mou tells him. Now he knows he's fucked for life (or until he disappears from the Premier). the same happened to Arsene.
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>>75877181
Diamond as a 10
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Very happy about this.

Best attacking midfielder in the world IMO.

After Ronaldo and Modric he is Madrid's best player.

Hopefully this means the end for Rooney.

Rooney out, Jamez in. Great business. Will save a lot of money too.

Now if we can just get Mbapp and Greaseman we will win the CL next season.
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>>75877274
Troll
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>>75876996
>le must win every season trophies meme
>who is Alex Ferguson
he left because his job was finished. Barcelona was not a threat anymore and Madrid was competitive in the Champions League, that was what he was brought in to do. On a personal level, he won all the trophies he didn't have, the spanish ones, so he was satisfied

>>75877095
you want to hear Florentino's personal assessment of Mou's work, after he left or not?
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can manu just buy bale instead so >we are rid of him, i promise he will actually be useful in your hoofball league
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>>75877295
What does Florentino's assessment matter? If Florentino understood good tactics he wouldn't have hired Mourinho
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>>75877301
>>we
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>>75877327
>why does the opinion of the boss matter? better rely on the opinion of an /sp/ shitposter or a random fan on the street, like we do in New Zealand
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>>75877360
Florentino doesn't understand good football. He was the direct cause of Madrid's downfall when he forced his Galaticos policy and sold Makelele for Beckham. No coincidence that as soon as he left they won back to back league titles
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>>75877292
>thinking a squad with Pogba, Jamez, Martial, Mbapp, Zlatan, Mkhitaryan, Griezmann, Rashford and Mata won't win the CL

Yeah, such "ebin" trolling...

I don't get it?

No other squad in the world can match that. Madrid and Barca are fucking miles away.
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>>75877413
this >team is gonna get btfo by the like of olympiacos simply because it's contaminated by british football culture. You cant be saved anymore
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>>75877432
Rashford is the best player on that list m8.
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>>75877510
Good opinion, alot of ppl over looking the fact we're only in the final because of Rashford
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>>75865749
So what would be a good price lads? I'm feeling that Mou will drop a good 40 million too much tbrh
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>>75877413
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>>75877274
>Best attacking midfielder in the world IMO.
>After Ronaldo and Modric he is Madrid's best player.
I know this is b8 but just kys
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>>75877381
>won 4 decimas and 4 leagues
>saved the club from financial trouble while transforming it into the healthiest, richest and most rentable club in the world
>somehow bad admin
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>>75877381
Florentino is genius.He made all Ayyyrabs Halal supporters with his galacticos policy and then in his second term has had a flawless administration.Just look at how good Madrid's scouting has been lately.
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>>75877776
He rode off momentum. His last 3 seasons in his first team had 0 titles, then they won the league back to back when he left, now I ask is that a coincidence?
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We need a extra CB, Bailly is good, but Rojo i have my doubts although he has improved, he's no Walter Samuel kek
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Give me a quick rundown on Hamez' season please
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>>75877868
Warming the bench.He was totally eclipsed by Isco and Asensio
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>>75877868
He's the white Erik Lamela
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>>75877868
>Tsunaldo bows to Hamez
>In contact with ManU
>Rumoured to posses goalmaking abilities
>Owns castles and banks all over Madrid
>Direct descendant of Spanish-Native racemixing
>Will give United the first non-draw result
>Learnt fluent Spanish within a week of arriving in Madrid
>He has a 67 score on FIFA, from the space-time reference point of the human base
>Hamez will guide United into a new age of reaching the 4th place
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>>75877188
>best midfielder in the world
>Mourinho schooling
>Conte is fucked for life
>mfw

>what is diamond formation
Not what Ancelotti used at Madrid, that's for sure
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>>75877937
>Will give United the first non-draw result
>will guide United into a new age of reaching the 4th place
Top quality, Aquafresh
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>>75866258
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>75877971
Do you think it's too much, or that Madrid will scam them even harder?
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>>75878019
The pricetag will be at least twice that

Just wait and see
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>>75878056
I'm 100% you're right, it's Manure we're talking about after all
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James I bet has a nice feminine penis and soft skin
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>>75865846
you must be 12
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>>75877964
I want to know more about the Slovakian Manure hater. I seem to remember you mentioned your neet status before but your English is very good and I'm curious as to what your life is like.
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>>75878597
Not a NEET though, I have a "job" I do at home. Does it matter anyway? We're all Anonymous friends here, except customers who get shat on by everyone
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مجد المجد
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>>75878851
>filename
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>>75877955
Conte got assraped by Mouyesrinho at Old Trafford desu. Chelsea had zero shots on target for the first time in 10 years. Against a team who had Lingard and Fellaini in midfield.

Conte is fucked for life until he disappears from the Prem
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>>75866287
Can't rebuild it playing first team in the PL? What?
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>>75879017
How could he ever recover... Meanwhile
>6th (sixth)
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>>75878101
Of course. It's not that they are stupid when it comes to transfers, it's that they HAVE to pay more. Juve got Dybala for like £25m. That would have been maybe double if it was Man Utd. It's not because they're stupid, it's because they have to pay it. There's a premium for PL clubs when they go abroad and it's even worse for Man Utd. Why do you think Real Madrid break the transfer record all the time? It's not because they're flashy and want to make a statement like some soft-headed fools say, it's because every club knows how much money they have.
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>>75879155
>le choke against Benfica and Nordsjaelland man

he's going to get exposed so hard it's gonna be hilarious
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>>75879248
Agreed about the extra fee, but
>not that they are stupid when it comes to transfers
Not only the prices, but player choices are awful too. We like to laugh at Inter in /seriea/ being utter retards when it comes to transfers but they're the Italian Sevilla compared to Manure
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>>75879272
>h-haha next year he's going to do so badly JUST wait you'll see h-haha
And >mouyes is going to win the league, I bet :^)
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>>75879534
Mouyes has won the league against the poop's greatest Barcelona team of all time, why do you a memer who won meme titles with Club Jj can stop him?
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>>75878779
Was just curious mate. Where in slovakia are you anyway? I enjoyed my time in Bratislava but that was nearly 10 years ago
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>>75879494
Maybe the choices are stupid but not the prices. But even the choices: all the signings this year are good; Rojo is a good signing; Martial and Shaw should come good and, at least, definitely have the talent; Memphis looked to have a lot of potential. I'm not sure it's worse than other top clubs.
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>>75879716
he's a Jailventus customer obsessed with United, it's pointless talking sense to him senpai
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>>75879664
That was Mourinho, and he still had awful record against Guardiola, and got sacked from Madrid for failing to win anything in his last season. Manure hired >mouyes, it's Mourinho's corpse propped up for cameras.
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>>75880372
poop has defeated him only once without Messi
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>>75879694
Kek, what did you do in Bratislava? British tourists are very popular among local sluts, hope you enjoyed your stay
>>75879716
>Shaw
Complete flop
>Martial
Flop, cost like 60 million (90?) and is actually getting worse instead of developing
>Rojo
West Ham tier
>Depay
lmao
>Di Maria
The last quality player Manure bought, and still ruined him
>Schniederlin
Didn't make sense from the beginning
>Darmian
Lmao
>Mkhitaryan
28 already and isn't even a starter, both Sane and Mane are better and much younger
>Bailly
Average, not top 4 quality (so Manure level acutally)
>Pogba
lmao
>ZIbrahimovic
The only transfer remotely resemebling good value, even despite the outrageous wages and bonuses. Good have been useful for Manure in the next season as well, if only >mouyes didn't insist on exhausting him every single match. The injury was long time comming
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>>75880428
And >mouyes had prime CR7 at his disposal in most of their matches, so that's irrelevant.
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>>75880545
>implying CR7 is good
please, everyone knows he refused to track back and defend which is why he and mou fell out
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>>75875156
>Juventus ends up receiving 73M for a player they got for free
Seems pretty good to me
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>>75865749
>So it begins... the greatest transfer window football has ever seen.
This transfer window is going to be crazy too many teams with too much money and very few good players in the market.
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>>75880585
>CR7 is bad
>especially during the time >mouyes was in charge
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>>75880585
>two primma donna faggots with heads up their asses against a spirited innovator and the happy autist GOAT

gee i wonder why pep dominated his boipucci
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>>75868572
They aren't getting Lukaku, they will get Morata.
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>>75875583
He's worth 20M at most
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>>75866355
43 not 60
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Why is the frog smelling money? Is he a Manu customer? What is he?
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>>75867519
Indeed that 4-4-2 was beautiful, Real have not been an enjoyable team since then
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>>75880636
>pep dominated his boipucci

pep got shook so bad he got depression and left spain
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so we're supposed to make fun of a club for spending 500 million because other clubs only spend 350 million? is that right?
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>>75866516

I think Sheva was just too late in the game to adapt to english football. He was 30 and had already lost some of his pace. Also playing out of position to accommodate Drogba didn't help.
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>>75880938
yeah I'm sure he was crying over all 14 trophies
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>>75865940
Based United working the fucktards
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>>75881250
read his biography
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