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German keepers or Italian keepers?

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German keepers or Italian keepers?
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>>75858556
In general good keepers don't come from any one country. However for the longest time Italy has had the best one.

Autistic sweeper keepering isn't good goal keeping
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Italian keepers = reddit
German keepers = 4chan
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>german ''''keepers''''

very bad meme
pls stop
Noya is a choker as well
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>>75858662
You don't have to post like an Ameriturd you know?
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>>75858662

>sweeper keeper
>not reddit

at leaast you tried boi
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>>75858662
>tf
>tp

If anything it's the other way around, nigger.
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is there more than one italian keeper?
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>>75858785
Neuer loves to hurt brown minorities though.
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>>75858819
In terms of number 1's hasn't Buffon covered Khan Lehman and Noober?

Fucking elite
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Buffon
Zoff
Zenga
Pagliuca
Toldo
Peruzzi

vs.

Neuer
Kahn
Maier
Schumacher
Kopke
Illgner

Italy wins
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>>75858890
literally no. only buffon is good, the rest are literal whos.
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>>75858890
From Buffon and Kahn to Memerumma and Lel Stegen
Sad!
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>>75858819
No. Buffon plays for all the 20 Serie A teams. During matches he runs between the two goals.
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>>75858912
lol
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>>75858912
>the rest are literal whos.
>WC, CL Serie A champions, Euro finalists
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i like my keepers like my cars
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/ourguy/
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Seeing the picture it's more like:

>A Nazi or a Fascist?

Hard choice
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>>75858952
>implying it wasn't another shoah
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>>75858556
italian
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorenzo_Buffon
>Buffon is widely regarded as one of the greatest goalkeepers of his generation, and as one of Italy's greatest ever goalkeepers.[1][3] Alongside the legendary goalkeeper Lev Yashin, he was notably chosen to represent the FIFA All-Star squad during the 1960s.[4]

>>75858662
australian shitposters=reddit
canadian shitposters=4chan
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>>75858912
throw yourself in the riachuelo
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>>75860491
So, Buffon is trying to become the greatest keeper in history to avenge his great uncle from Yashin?
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>>75858556
Gigi "I would rather die than come out for a cross" Bufoon will never be the GOAT keeper, stop hallucinating.
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>I'm ready whenever you decide to retire, Gigi
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>>75858556
Italian>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>german
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Casillas > any german gk > any italian gk

inb4: some meme fag who didn't won a CL despite playing in the best italian team for more than 20 years
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>>75858819
is there more than two german keepers?
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>>75861143
>despite playing in the best italian team for more than 20 years

How do you Hues get news from the old continent, via telegraph?
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>>75861143
>iker career ended by a portugese hack Casillas

lol ok
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2014 Neuer is far better than any of the overrated Italian hacks
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>>75861228
He's 60 now, right?
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>>75861266
this desu
even injuried neuer is better than those italian memes
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Best keepers are German, but the best keeper EVER is Italian.
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I'm so fucking sick of all this ''muh Germans are the greatest'' ''muh Germans are so superior'' even from filthy muslims

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywmxYvteibc

shut the fuck up
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>>75861324
wow you sure convinced me with your youtube video of a literalwho player

here have some Tim Wiese highlights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9uJQ01ikdg
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>>75861324
But they're, Luiggi. Just face it already.
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How about realistic mode: play the game without counting fake memes.

American keepers are the best
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>>75861389
how many times he got a red card?
>>75861416
never
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZbxwpznlMw
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>>75861452
>you now remember Amoroso
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>German "goalkeepers"
LMAO
>>75861324
This. 90's Italian keepers alone shit on all the German ones.
>>75861389
>Tim Wiese
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKW8PWPASKU
>>75861416
What do Brazilians even know about defending?
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>>75861466
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKW8PWPASKU
>you now remember Emerson
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>>75861466
Well you're stealing one of ours to your NT, so.. ^^
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>>75861466
http://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Nazionale/09-04-2017/nazionale-ventura-convoca-emerson-palmieri-calabria-chiesa-190620022037.shtml

ayyyyyyyy
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>>75861461
Still maybe the most damaging transfer in the history of the Bundesliga. Blowing this much money on him and getting what he delivered at that time killed Dortmund for a couple of years good. Really until Klopp came around, actually.
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really pisses me off how the meme keeper buffoon gets overrated just for playing 100 years

casillas>neuer>>>>>buffoon
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>>75861561
this.
and still can't win a CL. pathetic 2bh
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>>75861511
>>75861518
Every single Brazilian that knows remotely how to defend played in Serie A.

Carlos
Cafu
Aldair
Silva
etc.

Really makes you think.
>>75861524
The Bundesliga was never alive to begin with.
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>>75861566
>>75861561
Yes, because everyone knows you can win trophies alone, especially if you're a goalkeeper.
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>>75861580
to be honest even Peruzzi won a CL...
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>>75861567
I'm sure there are plenty more italian defenders in Serie A, right?

You don't need to steal one of ours...
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>>75861587
But Peruzzi was an amazing keeper. Buffon played 3 CL finals.
>>75861589
>steal
He can do whatever he wants.

He came to Italy because your teams are irrelevant, he learned how to defend here, from us, and now he's decent at doing it.

I don't understand the point you're trying to make.

Literally every single good brazilian defender learned how to play in Italy.
Look at David Luiz last year and this year.
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>>75861580
>ignoring trophies makes the argument for buffoon stronger instead of weaker
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>>75861587
Also how many CL finals did Peruzzi lose? Come on.

One player alone can't make the difference in cups, especially in modern football. He can win one, maybe two games.
>>75861680
What?
That's not what I said retard.
If the team is not good enough, you can't win alone.
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/thread
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>>75858912
wew
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>>75861709
his team was good enough to make 3 champions league finals

in the first he could've won if he saved 1 more penalty

the second he could've won if he made some heroic saves instead of conceding 3

the 3rd I agree, there is nothing he can do to stop halal madrid and the G O A TSuuu, no one can stop them, especially not an overrated team of 40 year old bus parking italians with a 100kg serial choker up front
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Costa Rican goalkeepers
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>>75861849
he's so fucking bad m8
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>>75861896
>t. Antonio José

m8 he's breddy good dont be jelly
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>>75861660
He went to Italy because of money. And now he will play to your NT because he can't find a spot here, against Filipe Luis (never played in Italy)-Marcelo-Alex Sandro.

Again, Italy taking all the crumbs we left. Eder, Motta, Emerson... top kek
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>>75861828
>in the first he could've won if he saved 1 more penalty
>blaming the goalkeeper for a penalty goal
Really?
>the second he could've won if he made some heroic saves instead of conceding 3
The team conceeded 3, not him.
A goalkeeper isn't a superhuman.

You're typing like a 14 year old kid who gets his football knowledge from /sp/.
>>75861896
So bad he saved Real's ass multiple times against against Atletico.
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>>75861849
this handsome guy is amazing when in form but consistency is kind of important for a goalkeeper...
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>>75861942
Players come here because they want to learn how to play.
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>>75861849
is there any city in costa rica where soccer is the most popular sport?
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>>75861964
Sure... they don't care about money, those saints.
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>>75861919
Why should I lie about it if I'm a Real Madrid fan?

t. Wilfredo José dos Santos Wellington Bautista
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>>75858912
what the fuck am I reading
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>>75861958
>pee pee poo poo

He had one dip in form this year, during his return from injury. He was by far the most consistent Real player during the 15/16 season and is now returning back to his usual form. Bad form occurs to everyone, it's just far more obvious for keepers because it's a demanding position.
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>>75861968
Not really, it's a very small country so what's popular in one area is probably very popular in another. It's not call niggerball for nothing, everyone loves it in latinamerica
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>>75861975
Everyone knows Real Madrid fans are stupid, what's your point?
>>75861971
1. They get paid more
2. They learn how to play football

Remember kids, these retards are the same kind of people who say that Juve doesn't stand a chance against Real.
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>>75861980
De Gay is coming lad
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>>75861786
/kek
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>>75862006
>It's the same autist italian from the other thread
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>>75862011
Para serte muy honesto, I wouldn't mind if he did. Every FUCKING game that he plays, the news feels the need to go "Ye navas played but DE gea tho ;) also le fax machine hehe" and everyone Costa Rican is going "MUH GOAT KEEPER. SPANIARDS R RACIST". It's so exhausting to read that shit, and it's probably as exhausting for Keylor. Maybe if he went to a club where he could feel at ease, people would knock it off with that shit.
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>>75861980
t. diego mora
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>>75862039
I always have the same feeling. If the player isn't appreciated where he is, he should go and find a better place. Just look at Pedro, for example.
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>>75862039
Fax machine saved Keylor's career. There's no life outside Real Madrid, much less for Keklor m8
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>>75862024
>>It's the same autist italian from the other thread
Says the same fucking dumb Brazilian customer who has no understanding of Football whatsoever and thinks Real Madrid is a team.
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>>75862054
t. Luuk


>>75862066
There's always china
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>>75862066
>There's no life outside Real Madrid
t. customer
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>>75858834
Buffon is a fascist
So is Abbiati
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>>75862085
t. Juventus Jeep chokers jew supporter
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>>75858890
Nigger where is Sebastiano Rossi
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>>75862139
>le carried by the defence gk
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>>75862148
>Old man Buffon
>Not carried by BBC
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>>75862134
I don't spout bullshit and I'm not a customer, though.
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>>75861109
Donnarumma will retire before buffon
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>>75862172
yep, this is being carried by your defense
right
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>>75862258
and this
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>>75862258
oh wow he made a save

at least post the iniesta one
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>>75862172
>Juventus - OL
Three miracles

>Juventus - Barça
2 miracles on Iniesta and Suarez

And that's just the first two matches I can remember.

Kill yourself hue
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>>75862276
and this
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>>75858912
kek'd IRL. Thanks
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>>75861466

Wiese is a meme in germany you stupid fucks
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>>75862291
Neuer had like 10 miracles in the two games against Real though. Let's face it. Neuer is as good on the line as Buffon is or better, plus he can come out for crosses and is a sweeper keeper. Neuer > Buffon.
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>>75861143
Casillas is shit
He's not even as good as Abbiati
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lol at this butthurt bra7i1ian
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>>75862287
This one is the craziest plebeian.
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>>75862389
hello nazi highway
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>>75862345
And Juve didn't conceede goals in those matches, your point? They should defend worse to make Buffon do more saves?

What the fuck?
>>75862339
I can guarantee you he's a meme in Italy too.
>>75862287
Give me a good reason why you hate Juve and Buffon other than them having a chance to win the CL in your face.

You people can't accept the fact that someone other than RM can win or have the best players.
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>>75862423
>them having a chance to win the CL in your face.
literally what

but to answer your question, have nothing against juve or buffon, just their retarded fans. which is the case most of the time here.
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>>75862345
Buffon is 40, of course Neuer is better now.
>>75862445
Yeah, you deem them "retarded" because they state the simple truth, that while Real has some better players, Juve is a better team.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqeDvYfisV0
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Turkish goalkeepers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31zQrlOCoDE
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>>75862499
>le cokehead carried by his defence gk
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>>75862488
did not even know this was CL thread lol
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>>75862507
Flawless exit.
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germany is the most overrated country in the world

fuck those stupid nazi shitheads
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>>75858556
one is an overrated redditor and the other one is the best of all time

can you name which one?

protip the fascist is the best one and the german is not the fascist, I know this play on words might have confused you but eh nothing personnel kid

but yeah ze raise hand for offside man cowers behind the bayern defense doing meme shit when it works and gets outplayed when it doesn't work

>inb4 that one good save once when he demolished some guy with poor awareness makes him the best because LE NAZI XDDDDDDD

go back to redddddddddddddddddddit
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>>75861660
>Literally every single good brazilian defender learned how to play in Italy.
>Look at David Luiz last year and this year.

what

Luiz played in england, france portugal and brazil
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Would have loved to see /sp/ after the Ger - Eng Penalty shoot-out in 96.
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>>75862615
4chan didn't exist back then
look it up
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>>75861143
>"supports" the most successful club AND the most successful NT
>still so fucking insecure
You are beyond pathetic hue
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>>75861324
Based Iron Mike
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>>75862614
Yeah, exactly, the simple fact that he has Conte and his staff as coach was enough.
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>>75861482
El Puma was actually great when he played for Roma.
Cafu still goat though.
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>>75861660
>Buffon played 3 CL finals.
*2(2003, 2015)
This year will be his 3rd one
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I-is this /bundes/?
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>>75861949
Got to admit that Dida outplayed him in 2003 PK Shoot-outs but PK's were never Gigi's strongest point...I mean he's good at them but he's not Pagliuca level or anything
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>>75862784
perro caca jajajajajajjaa
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>>75858982

kek.true
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>>75862816
Juve shooters were simply worse, they all telegraphed their shots.
Milan shooters were better players, that year Milan was simply better than Juve.
>ageing Del Piero, Trezechoke vs madman Inzaghi and angry deity Shevchenko
>midfield Juve didn't even have Nedved because he's retarded and a niggerhead, Milan had Seedorf, Rui Costa, Gattuso and Pirlo 'nuff said
>defense they were kinda equal but not quite, Thuram was good in Juve but Milan had fucking Nesta, Maldini and Costacurta

All of Milan players were way more experienced.
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>>75862816
Yeah, Gigi is kind of shit at penalties. But I really can't feel like balming the keeper for a penalty goal, except in specific situations.

Also people seem to forget how Gigi is still here, competing at 40, despite he suffered from depression.
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>>75862909
He also won us the 2006 WC with some crucial saves.
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>>75862148
That is a fucking meme
Rossi was a great keeper
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>>75862525
>carried by defence meme
how come galli didn't perform nearly as well then? how come it was rossi who held the longest record for not conceding a goal until it was recently broken by buffon?
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>>75862888
The shooters were not the problem
Look at how fucking badly Dorf shot his PK
Inzaghi didn't even shoot, Del Piero scored his PK(and he wasn't ageing...WTF he was in his 20s)

I mean Buffon did really bad in the Nesta penalty

Also you forget that Buffon conceded a goal from Sheva in regular play that was incorrectly disallowed

>>75862909
And Dida got fucked with a flare in his head in 2005 and even managed to injure himself in the bench once(WTF)
I'm sure Dida would enjoy Buffon's depression tbqh
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>>75861143
You on about pic related or someone else?
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>>75863125
how come Rossi started conceding goals left and right as soon as Milan defence and midfield broke apart? and subsequently, how come Rossi lost the starting spot in net to, in chronological order, Angelo Pagotto (lmao), Massimo Taibi (kek), Jens Lehmann (my sides) and ultimately Christian Abbiati?
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Goalkeepers are the only things we have good and we have only 2 of them.
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>>75858912
nice autism
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>>75858918
>No. Buffon plays for all the 20 Serie A teams. During matches he runs between the two goals.
Underrated
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why does /sp/ hate italy?
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>>75864341
I don't, Italy is the best non England country in the world, don't mind the jealousy.
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>>75864341
it doesn't, just don't mind the drunk Dacia metalworker affected by inferiority complex and the seething favelado with reading comprehension problems
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>>75858912
This is the same argie that makes those Messi hate threads all the time right?.
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If you have two things of the same quality, and one of them is italian, always choose the other
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polish keepers tbqhwy
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>>75864666
Are you high? or just a big fan of being mid table shite?
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>>75864701
*wins the CL*
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>>75864726
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>>75864548
t. refined connoisseur of everything concerning 2nd places
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>>75864726
*conceding 3*
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>>75864835
t. Jamie Carragher
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>>75864467
>I don't rate based argiebro

el colombiANO
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>>75862345
Neuer barely edges it now that Gigi is 40, he's nowhere near as good as 2002-2008 Buffon, nor ever was

also Buffon positioning is times better than Neuer's, and sweeper-keeping is a shitty meme that every half competent keepers coach will tell you to avoid imitating
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>>75865832
peak Neuer > peak Casillas > peak Buffon
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>>75862300
that pass is #naughty
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Buffon is on a league of his own, he fucking buried three generations worth of keepers, people were literally comparing themselves to him before 80% of 4chan was even born.

I would say on average

Italian top keepers >> German top keepers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Italian average keepers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> German average keepers
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>>75858912
I hope you are memeing, friend
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>>75865934
>peak Casillas > peak Buffon
holy shit end your life
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>>75866234
I hope you are memeing, friend
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>>75867051
Sorry, this should go like this

peak Casillas >>>>>> abysm >>>>> peak Buffon
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If buffoon is so good why has he never won a CL?
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>>75867113
Winning the CL is a wildcard in sport revisionism, it can mean you are actually better than a world champion but it also doesn't mean shit sometimes, it's up to which narrative are you advocating.
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Any fucking keeper can make reflex saves on their day.

To actually have the judgement to run out and sweep >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> saving shots

But then again Buffon always played for shitty, cowardly, reactive teams that never played a high line, so obviously he never has defenders running at him 1v1, so he never had to sweep.

The job Neuer had to perform between 2013 and 2016 was far more difficult than the old Buffoon ever did in his entire career.

Yeah, I guess being okay-ish for 100 years is worth some degree of respect. But true greatness is achieved by players who push the boundaries of what's possible.
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>>75867157
>To actually have the judgement to run out and sweep >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> saving shots

Reverse b8. Fuck you, mohammed
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>>75867113
>if Maradona is so good how come he never won the CL?
>>75867157
>But then again Buffon always played for shitty, cowardly, reactive teams that never played a high line
>what is Juve from 2011 on?
Imbecile.
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>>75863482
How come Buffon was conceding goals left and right for 2-3 seasons after Jube came back from Serie B?

There's your answer
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>>75867699

Retard.

>>75867157

1. If you can't tell the difference between meme saturday highlight midtable keeper reflexes of Noia and "this was a goal every day of the week but not today" Buffon's reflexes, you shouldn't speak again of football. Neuer doesn't even touch Schmeichel or Kahn as far as reflexes go. Barely in Dida and Van Der Sar reflexes tier.

Buffon is a god of positioning, he makes it look easy because he is absolutely flawless at detecting where the ball is likely to be shot and he places himself before you even go at it. The reflexes are instantaneous, they come with the man, the positioning makes it easier. He doesn't have a best day for reflexes, he's all reflexes.

On the other hand he's flawed in his jumping technique, if you carefully aim your shoot you will likely score with him. Any shoot in his static range is 9 out of 10 a save, aimed shooting is a goal. He's "lazy" in that if he did fuck up his positioning, he won't compensate with his body.

>>75867699

He had spinal surgery in 2010 you asswipe, and that's when he actually started taking goals left and right. You would take such goals too if you were there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3d5W8CQn4Q

Noia would've conceded on that first shot easily.
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>>75867662
>if Maradona is so good how come he never won the CL?

Ohhhhh I wonder WHY ON EARTH a guy who played in cl never won it? Why, god?
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>>75868021
in two cl*
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>>75868021
>never
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>>75868587
Maradona
>2 CL
>0 Titles

Buffon
>100 CL
>0 titles

Sure is the same..
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