Is he the greatest German coach since Ottmar Hitzfeld?
hes doing a good job at LiverPOOl, could be great if he can add better players to his POOl at LiverPOOl
>>75817592
haha because there's poo in liver"poo"l amirite haha nice memes
he's unironically worse than Nagelsmann and Tuchel.
very overrated and has been repeatedly exposed in the past few years
>>75817624
didn't he beat tuchel 4-3
>Zero trophies
>>75817629
Tuchel lost to Frings too. Doesn't mean that Frings is an overall better coach then him.
>>75817551
This is the patrician answer.
>>75817551
Liverpool will drain him and leave just a cracked shell.
>>75817638
great post
>>75817638
no anon, you're doing it wrong it's
>zeru tituli
>>75817652
excellent post lel
>>75817652
kek
>While in charge of Wolfsburg during a training camp in July 2008 in Switzerland Magath declared after a team lunch that training would be canceled for the day.
>Instead the players would be rewarded with coffee and cake at a nearby location with the provision that the players retain their training attire just in case.
>As the players prepared to board the gondola that took them up the mountain to the coffee house their delight was soon replaced with horror as Magath told them they would get there by running the full 2362 meters.
>They ran for two and a half hours straight up the hill with Magath running right behind the team.
>Their star striker Grafite collapsed before the end and had to be carried down the valley on a stretcher while other players broke down in tears as they reached the summit where they were finally able to enjoy their coffee and cake.
>>75817652
based quark man
>same amount of points as brendan rodgers
>>75817687
2.4km is nothing, just how steep was the fucking incline?
>>75817551
he ruined the bundes, he is far worse than bayern. now every team uses his memenpressing tactics which results in unwatchable matches
>>75817687
same Wolfsburg team he led to a title
>indos on football
also, this man is better than Gottmar
>>75817730
that's how high the mountain was they had to run up
>>75817719
>same amount of points as brendan rodgers when liverpool were challenging for the league
wow, impressive from Jurgen considering he doesn't have a pair of strikers who score 31 and 21 goals in a season
>>75817730
Thats probably the heigth not the distance
otto rehagel
even I could do a good job having world class players in my disposal
>>75817742
I know he's a great coach, I never said he was bad, he just does funny shit. He's doing great in China too
>>75817756
so what you're saying is rodgers is better than klopp
fair enough. can't see klopp winning the SPL with celtic tbf
>>75817782
not really, saying Rodgers had Suarez at his absolute peak and Sturridge before he became permacrocked.
then when he had to actually try and build a team that worked cohesively he ended up failing miserably
>>75817804
so what you're saying is rodgers can turn a midtable team into title challengers and klopp can't
>>75817804
brenny did nothing wrong, the transfer committee gave him shits like benteke and balotelli when he wanted alexis sanchez, blame the transfer committee
>>75817812
no, Rodgers was incredibly lucky to have Suarez blossom into an unbelievably good player, and that the transfer committee overruled him to bring Sturridge in when Rodgers didn't want him.
Whereas Klopp took an utter shit side last season to 2 cup finals, which Brendan never managed, and for the first third of this season at least got the team playing better football than Rodgers ever did. Even with terrible injuries and missing players the drop off has only meant we're third instead of first.
>>75817826
Benteke was Rodger's player, he desperately wanted him, and then discovered he didn't know how to use him.
>>75817828
Klopp also has a terrible record against small teams, Rodgers's Liverpool challenged for the title because they kept smashing the smaller teams. Chelsea is winning the title because they consistently smashed the small teams. Until Klopp can figure out how to beat the small teams he won't win anything with Liverpool
>>75817828
so what you're saying is rodgers was able to create a world class striker and klopp couldn't even get close despite having no european football
Was Jupp Heynckes not better?
>>75817867
Better than Klopp or Hitzfeld?
Best Top 10 German coaches Power Ranking:
1. Helmut Schön
2. Ottmar Hitzfeld
3. Jupp Heynckes
4. Franz Beckenbauer
5. Joachim Löw
6. Otto Rehhagel
7. Sepp Herberger
8. Jürgen Klopp
9. Felix Magath
10. Hennes Weisweiler
This is undisputable.
>>75817861
>rodgers was able to create a world class striker
this is true, even Suarez himself has thanked Rodgers for making him a better player
>>75817872
>since Ottmar Hitzfeld
Better than Klopp.
Quite obviously all of them are better than Brenny.
>>75817878
>>75817861
>Origi = Suarez - Rogers
>>75817884
maybe klopp should have bought a better player then, they could be challenging for the title
but nah negative net spend is better than trophies
>>75817875
Weisweiler should be before Magath and Klopp, he defined an entire era and also won the German chamipionship more often than Magath and Klopp.
>>75817687
he was the victim of a viscious campaign
the tears of the fulham players are the sweetest
they had three managers in the season they were relegated and their attitude never changed
former bayern managers always suffer from leaks and negative press
van gaal, klinsmann, pep, hitzfeld and even heynckes at one point all suffered from it
>>75817974
is muller the rat in the team?
>>75818013
he uses the press to pressure the coach into starting him sometimes
but lahm and robben are the worst
>>75817638
>Have the most expensive PL team of all time
>Win the Milk Cup and finish 6th whilst playing the same hoofball that Van Gaal and Moyes did
>>75818206
>still win more trophies than Liverpool
>>75817875
>Joachim Löw
LEL
>>75817875
>Schön
only managed prime German NT, hard to rate
>Hitzfeld
very good
>Osram
most overrated manager ever, people completely ignore how he destroyed the best Frankfurt in history and almost got Schalke relegated and also how he lost three finals in one year with Bayern
>Beckenbauer
meme
>Löw
awful
>Otto
the GOAT, won the league with Bremen and promoted Lautern, won a European Cup with Bremen, won the Euro with Greece, a real manager who never needed the best squad to be successful
>Herberger
good
>Klopp
he's very good despite the memes
>Magath
he's past it but he has his credentials
>Weisweiler
2nd best after Otto
>>75818252
also missing Lattek who only managed the most stacked teams but at least he was good at that
>>75817618
I would be careful using that word if I was you buddy
>>75817730
That's the height, pic related is the mountain.
>>75818266
Lattek also saved Dortmund from relegation once
>>75818252
Beckenbauer wasn't a meme. He has the image of a lazy people manager ("Geht raus und spielt Fußball") but he was actually working quite hard as a coach. For example he was one of the first coaches to study video tapes of the opponents before matches. Plus I don't think he had ever a bad spell as a coach. Beckenbauer was basically the coach in 1974 and won the World Cup. Beckenbauer coached a shitty team into second place in 1986. Beckenbauer coached a decent team to win the World Cup in 1990. As a interim coach he won the UEFA Cup and the Bundesliga with Bayern.
>>75817551
Not really. He's a good coach but his style only works for maybe 5 of the bigger clubs in europe with batshit crazy fans and a mangement that is more fan than doing it's job leaving very much room for Kloppo to do his thing.
Anywhere beside
>Dortmund
>Schalke
>Liverpool
>Atletico
>probably Juve or Inter
he will get fired after a half year because he got into shitflinging contest with everyone or quit on his own.
Same as NT coach, you can't have a NT manager that goes banting and shittalking every opponent at a EC/WC and trying to pick up a fist fight with the 4th ref/other teams coach in every single match.
>>75818346
>as a interim coach he won the UEFA Cup and the Bundesliga with Bayern.
I agree with what you said about Beckenbauer but that Uefa Cup was Otto Rehhagel's achievement, they just kicked him out before the final. Kinda like when Schalke kicked out Magath after he reached the cup final, it was his achievement and not Rangnicks.
all those plebs
>>75818431
le cheeky cocaine man
>>75817855
We didn't always beat the smaller teams under rodgers though
>>75818431
he has the strongest nose of all german coaches, that's for sure
>>75818441
he entered last week of the league in 1st position with Fenerbahçe and lost it twice. second one is even to an Anatolian club who never won the title ever kek.
>>75818452
He also went to Köln where he was treated like the Messiah, the whole city going wild because of him, then left after one season to go back to Fenerbahçe where he was fired after a week or something. Cocaine is a hell of a drug.
>>75818494
>here he was treated like the Messiah
u wot m8
he was hated from the beginning as a former neverkusen coach
>>75818506
t. 15 years old
daum was köln manager in their most successful time since ages in the 80s when he almost won the league twice
>>75818518
doesn't change the fact that he was seen sceptical when he returned
Klopp will be Bayern's new manager
everyone will be fine with it
dortmund and bayern are not rivals
they just made you believe that for ratings
>>75817624
This. But he is still a very good coach.
Damn, the German coach class is amazing nowadays.
>>75818538
it does though
http://www.spiegel.de/sport/fussball/erstes-training-in-koeln-habemus-daum-a-450971.html
>>75817551
Are you the greatest pooer since Ghandi?
>>75817638
Loses to Arsenal after saying that Wenger was a specialist at failure.
>>75818494
i remember it. he brought Ümit Özat with him. a real meme player who once rekt a fan who tried to punch him. the guy who fainted you remember him?
Is this /bundes/?
>>75818252
decent post
>>75818540
so you're saying that the Der Klassiker thing STARSports forced down my throat on is fake? I want all my money back
>>75817875
Heynckes is surely top 10 but 3rd greatest of all time? really? He won the CL with Real but got fired because he finished 4th. Got destroyed by Celta de Vigo (7-0) when he was coaching Benfica.
Besides the 2012/2013 season, his career was pretty okay, nothing special
>>75819645
he has literally coached just about every team in germany that's why he resonates with so many germans
>>75817742
That glorious bastard
>>75819712
>he has literally coached just about every team in germany
without success
he resonates with customers only
>>75818206
>Milk Cup
>All other clubs in the EPL qualified for it
Really joggins my noggin