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>WAAAAAH WHY DID YOU MAKE IT LOOKED LIKE I DUCKED HIM WHEN I DUCKED HIM

top fucking lel

>that 20th of May

The Japanese cards never clash either so 4 cards to watch that day.

First for Canelo is a massive pussy

>>75677557
>implying that isn't just a convenient excuse to avoid VADA testing

He probably hates them for making him look like a pussy too but it also lets him get away with that.

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>>75677603
I will only watch the murata fight
>crawford - diaz
one sided and too late
>russel jr - escandon
too late
>tanaka - acosta
come on man
>davis - walsh
actually doesn't look that bad

>>75677774
Watch the undercard of the Murata fight too. Particularly Navarrete vs Higa is a world class 50/50, should be very good.

>>75677557
>>75677631
Just read this part >>75678144

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And box wonders why alot of us are siding with /PinkUnderwear/

>>75678162
Yeah it's hilarious. They're claiming it's because they only gave him 15 days to negotiate the GGG fight but they knew full well after beating Cotto they'd have to do it.

This might well be part of it too >>75677723 the WBC mandate VADA testing these days so finding an excuse to not have that belt on the line might be something they're after if they think they need a bit of extra help for the GGG fight.

>>75678170
I just want that pasta the Mexican posts about him knocking out GGG on Mexican Independence day in a sold out Azteca to come true so his head can explode.

>>75678170
we're siding with him because we've all got a bet on lol

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Reminder that this weekend's card will NEVER be as big as this one no matter what shite people are claiming.

HBO's replay of Joshua vs Klitschko got 890,000 viewers more than its 3 live shows this year

>>75678411
To be fair their only good non-ppv card so far this year has been Vargas vs Berchelt which they put head to head against Frampton vs Santa Cruz. It doesn't have much competition.

Gervonta davis reminds me of a tiny, young tyson

Needs more cardio tho

>>75678455
But Davis already has an impressive win on his record lad, how can he possibly be like an overhyped bum who had one world class win in 37 fights before being found out at the first sign of adversity?

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>>75678455

>mini Mike Tyson
>coming to the UK to take a title

where have I heard this before

>>75678580
Did Calzaghe ever make a hook connect with his knuckles?

* * WARNING - distressing content to control-freak sympathisers * *
* * WARNING - distressing content to control-freak sympathisers * *
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEydnuMkASk

Parker's fight is being shown on sky sports 5 from 11am

>>75678192
Oh I'm not Mexican, I just want Canelo's legacy to take a shit. Also that event would be insane, it's the north American "90k in wembley"

>>75678783
>90k
5 Frochies have been deposited to your account

>>75678765
Was really excited for Parker/Hughie ffs, might still watch this. Should end pretty quickly.

>>75678957
>Was really excited for Parker/Hughie ffs

It'll still happen, and probably in the UK now. BT fucked up by underestimating the support Duco could get from the government but they won't let it happen again, they need something like this as a marquee fight for them this year.

>>75678173
With the amount of weight Canelo cuts, I wouldn't be surprised if he uses diuretics.

>>75679203

That's assuming he'll get another chance anytime soon. Parker could fight Wilder and it seemed like the WBO didn't believe the back injury

>>75679246
The WBO and Frank have a good relationship and he's still mandatory. They probably planned out how they were going to play it before they pulled out.

>>75679243
Yeah exactly, it's funny how he's suddenly had this revelation of hating the WBC a couple of months after they've started enforcing mandatory VADA for title fights.

>>75679295

Parker doesn't care about that fight and unification takes priority over mandatory. And if he wants money Bellew pays more so the WBO might tell Hughie to do a final eliminator as he hasn't fought in over a year now.

>>75679321
Don't see that chain of events as likely Tbh. Hearn clearly wants the Wilder fight for AJ because of he's American and because of his relationship with Showtime, so if I had to bet I'd say the far more likely scenario is that Bellew fights Wilder to build his profile over here to build towards AJ.

The bigger deal is that as I said the WBO are completely in bed with Frank, if the unification doesn't happen you can bet they won't mess him around by forcing eliminators.

>>75679351

If Eddie thinks Tyson Fury is going to relapse or be banned and will never come back then it would make sense for him to try and make Wilder vs Bellew while AJ does the Klitschko rematch to set up Wilder in April. But I'm surprised Bellew is so keen on it as the size difference really doesn't suit him, Parker is the perfect fight for both Wilder and Bellew. If it does happen like that then maybe Parker could do Hughie and Haye if he wins.

>>75679401
Not sure Bellew really gives a shit about winning at this point, he just wants as much money as possible between his next fight and a Haye rematch. To make the kind of money he made against Haye again he'll need that kind of a talker and Parker is about as exciting as a sheet of cardboard. I don't honestly think he has the slightest chance of beating either so that's what it'll come down to.

The Fury thing may just take a bit longer, it'll could be his other fight in 2018. He'll probably look like shit for quite a while, doubt he'll be ready for a mega fight in under a year.

>>75678580
Yea but we won't have a boxer as good as zaggers ever again

*jabs*
*uses superior footwork to get away*
*sticks chin out*
*bobs and weaves*
*triples up on the jab*

get good kid

>>75678911
Talking about the big guy

>>75679730
*lands overhand counter right on your chin*

pssh... nothin personnel... kid

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>>75677723
APPROVED

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NOT APPROVED

really makes you think....

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What did he mean by this lads?

>>75679853
What about cinnamon?

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>>75677723
>>75679844
>>75679885

>>75679900
He needs to be for the next fight, but he might not want to be when he faces GGG.

>>75677481
There's also a Golden Boy Promotions card this Friday on ESPN2 with three potentially fun fights

http://boxrec.com/show/748753

>>75679982
Doubt I'll watch but I hope Lopez loses, only remember who he is because he won via one of the worst robberies of last year.

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>120-108
>119-109

>>75679982
>http://boxrec.com/show/748753
Holy shit, this is actually solid

>>75680413
Honestly better than most PBC cards

>>75679853

Both Joshua and Klitschko were tested by VADA before the fight

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>tfw yfw be young wlad

>>75680790
>tfw yfw

everyone laugh at this mong

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need more handsome boxers lads

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>>75680833

>>75680460
There's a reason why spike and ESPN cut pbc, their cards are shit and no one watches them, that's why they only show on FS1 on Tuesday now

>>75680499
citation needed

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>>75680833

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You're in the club when he comes and slaps your gf's arse

What do?

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>>75680833

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>>75680851
top 5 hottest boxers:

1. nick blackwell
2. frank buglioni
3. calzaghe
4. froch
5. kessler

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>>75680951

http://www.boxingscene.com/wladimir-klitschko-tested-by-vada-anthony-joshua-fight--113190

http://vada-testing.org/anthony-joshua/

>>75679203
Parker vs H. FURY would be a good undercard for AJ's next fight.

>>75681224
>fighters from 2 rival british promoters on the same card
>fight that could easily sell out an arena as a headline on an undercard
>eddie putting on an expensive fight on an AJ undercard from now on

Not going to happen. Not sure why you'd think it was possible.

>>75681224

Too big for an undercard fight, the winning bid was 3.1 million and Hughie is with Frank Warren

>>75681264
>>75681256
I keep forgetting Parker has a title. I'm so used to him fighting washed up has beens.

What's Cojanu fighting for?

>>75679982
I've seen a couple of their cards and they had good, reasonably competitive fights despite half the fighters being undefeated pretty much all the way down the card. Well-matched mismatches if you know what I mean. Should be a good one on Friday.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATpDy41BlY4

Froch bless

>>75681324
WBO heavyweight title

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>you will never be as smart as the Eubanks

Why live lads?

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>>75681787

>>75681829
Your flanoposts are some of my favourites in this general Tbh lad

>>75679900
He started the Liam Smith camp with VADA testing too but had it removed during camp. There's a high chance that VADA will be removed now that Canelo has came out and said he doesn't want WBC to sanction the event.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZN-kboy1HM

Canelo absolutely BTFO

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>>75681964
My sides are in orbit

>>75681476
yesss I thought no one cared about that screenshot lol

>>75681964
Awww man. Canelo is a motherfucker for turning down that handcraft belt.

>>75682631
handcrafted*

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Post highlights videos that get you hyped

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-04I1Wmbpwo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQYeSXpC244

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>>75683087
Based May

>>75683087
Not a highlights but this hype me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99JcaHluRuo

>>75682631
Someone criticized it last thread, I think it's great, I just hate that the plate has the Mexico tourism board logo on it

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>>75683372
Yeah man, the guy who made it was a mexican handcrafter who really put an effort making it and was really proud about it, but the fucking Canelo turn it down because he's salty with the council. Seriusly, fuck the guy. I hope Chavez Jr win.

>>75683564
I think it's good he turned it down desu

Don't really see the point in that belt. Sure it looks nice, but completely meaningless.

>>75678476
lol Mike's competition was pretty good, they shit all over the current heavyweight division

>>75683608
It was commemotarive, for the 5 may thing. Yeah, is not a tittle belt but is nice for the mexican people, tradition you know. Why turn down a symbolic belt, before the fight, and put pression for not promoting it? Canelo is just being a little bitch

>>75683705
Larry Holmes was about 70 and coming off back to back losses, Berbick proved how limited he was with losses to some complete shit barely after Tyson and Tucker had a completely padded record, the Wilder of his day.

His only genuinely impressive win was Spinks prior to Douglas, and he went on to show that he wasn't even nearly the best of his generation after that loss. Good fighter but not at all worthy of the hype.

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>>75681167
but /box/ says hes on steroids

>>75683087
>Getting hyped from someone as good as May that has to resort to using cheap ass nigger tactics

Smdhpham

>Oops I missed my hook, better lay my elbow into his clavicle
>Oops he just punched me in the face, better hold his glove under my arm and punch him while he can't defend himself

Coulda been GOAT if he wasn't such a punk ass

https://youtu.be/kZdLJAYzV9M

One of the oldest and best highlight videos ever with gay ass music:

https://youtu.be/fMYGEK_aJhw

>>75683886
James Smith, Pinklon Thomas, Tony Tucker, Tyrell Biggs, Tony Tubbs and Donovan Ruddock were all quality fighters. Tyson's win over old Holmes is better than AJ's win over old Wlad as well considering Holmes went on to beat Mercer.

Tyson was hyped because he was a monster, no heavyweight was like him

Look and laugh

>>75684211

>>75683983
Most of those guys lost to some complete shit around the same age they lost to Tyson, call it a much better era if you want but within that era those wins weren't that remarkable at all. Again Spinks and maybe at a stretch Holmes were good, but he's not a top 10 all time heavyweight and lost to a good number of people better than him overall.

Just get bored of it being the go-to comparison people use when there are usually better ones.

>>75684276
VERY triggering thread in to be honest, though it's intended to be so fair enough

>>75683886
I read a great article yesterday by a seasoned boxing analyst. He said Parker wasn't up to scratch to face the like of Joshua or Wilder but said if he keeps progressing he could make himself a legitimate challenger. He said the ever improving Joshua is likely to be Champ for some time considering he has no competition. He also said Wilder likes to call out the big names but then fight cans. I agree with everything he said.

>>75684772
Sounds about right. Don't know how much better Parker can get, but Wilder is Wilder and needs to take a big fight before he gets smashed by a nobody. I'd rather see Joshua-Wilder first so he gets a little more time to develop if he can.

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Was Julian Jackson the hardest hitter p4p?

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Who's hype for this EPIC

Are we all in agreement that Wilder will be the unified champ by the end of 2018?

>>75683087
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEypJUv0VQs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VLWBVpL23k

This SRR video is why I started watching Boxing.

>>75685838

Poor Herol Graham, brutal KO

>>75686526

Unified WBU & IBF

>>75686703

*WBF

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ANTHONY JOSHUA BIG BULL CONFIRMED

Cuckposters win again

>>75686891
B I G
U
L
L

>>75686611
Yeah that's a good video

>>75687169
>>75686611
Robinson could really make anyone look like a bum. The way he changes the angles of his hooks closing in on the opponent is great.

Is a champion vacating a belt for someone else actually a thing that happens? Or is that ultra rare. I know there are loads of belts in boxing, not even taking into account all the many weight classes. Just seems strange to just give your belt up when you're challenged for it, but maybe that's not such a big deal as it's made out to be

Floyd shook as fuck and knows he's too old to beat Conor.

>>75687583
Canelo vacated his WBC belt to Golvkin.

>>75687583
Bowe famously threw his WBC belt in the bin rather than face Lennox Lewis a unification bout.

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Is he dying lads?

>>75687938
He's gonna be fine, he's been cutting for long.

>>75688021
>he's been cutting for long.
I knew someone like that, I could never figure out self mutilation.

>>75688083
you're a funny guy

>>75687938
He's dying

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Kellerman is such a qt holy shit, look at his face

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What do you guys think of this list?

Who is Vitali's best win?

>>75688953
>Tarver at #17
I wonder how they calculate these. Tarver is 2-0-1 at heavy, maybe it's weighted towards win-loss ratio. Then again Marciano is only a slot higher...

Usually the BoxRec rankings end up looking kind of silly but it's good to have a system not based on opinion. I just wish they could find some way to make them a little more realistic.

>>75689453
Samuel Peter

>>75689453
Arreola maybe? He doesn't really have any wins that are that great.

>>75688953
Pretty good tbqhwy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H2swawOBzU

>>75678476

>britshuts unironically think Bonecrusher Smith would be a champ in this era

Lmaoing at your life la.

>>75688953
>James Toney that high
>Lennox that low
I can't really comment because it's filled with pre-footage guys who I'm not knowledgeable about but certainly Foreman and Bowe should be up there.

>>75688953
Mostly terrible

>>75685838

Yeah, it's a shame he couldn't take it as good as he could dish it out.

>>75691967
Toney was amazing at times.

https://youtu.be/h227sP9Gc-I

friendly reminder... fuck andre ward, kovalev was robbed in part one

Watching Lomachenko hit the gloves away from his opponent's face is one of the most satisfying things in the sport of boxing.

>>75691189
Sort of reminds me of Jon Jones with his confidence and physical ability. He would still need to have about 10 more title defenses before he can be considered at Jones' level, though.

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>>75692524
>James Toney

>>75693672
There's something to be said for the added pressure that comes with being champ, but other than that title defenses don't mean a whole lot.

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What fight should I watch tonight?

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anybody know some good legit american sites to bet? im fucking broke and only got $50 bucks

>>75693400

Fuck off commie, ward worked him out. Kovalev doesn't get better in their rematch, ward wins a lopsided decision

Fucking commie bitch

>>75694458
You are right, but Toney's upper weight run in his late 30s was pretty incredible.

>>75694749
Freitas-Barrios? Dunno what you like.

>>75694458

BURGER KING!
BURGER KING!

>>75695320
If this post doesn't scream casual I don't know what does. You're just going off the age old saying that Boxers beat punchers in rematches. That doesn't even apply to that fight as Kovalev boxed Ward and many thought he outboxed Ward.

>>75695203
Bovoda.lv is legit for US. You can use bitcoin or regular cash

i really fucking hate canelo

Do non-Mexicans care about Canelo vs Chavez?

>>75698142

I care.

>>75698142
People who are into boxing care because it's two relative big fighters, even if the result is a bit of a foregone conclusion.

>>75688953
even valuev would win against ali

>>75698142
Canelo is good and well known and good and Julio César Chávez has a rather famous name

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what the fuck is wrong with this guy

>>75699500
got a problem buddeh?

>>75699500
Bloke is based.

>>75699500
I wonder if these people lack any historical perspective. Tons of stuff in the Bible isn't even remotely adaptable to modern society, and yet Christians and Jews get along just fine in it.

>>75699679
>Tons of stuff in the Bible isn't even remotely adaptable to modern society
Which is why Christian countries are overwhelmingly secular. Not to mention many people are becoming agnostic/atheist.

>Christians and Jews get along just fine in it.
Do they though? And Christianity has the New Testament, which is inherently less violent. The Quran only gets MORE violent.

>>75699698
I think Muslims will adjust as they live in secular societies.

>Do they though?
Sure. Where do they not? They just ignore all the stuff that's too inconvenient for them. Muslims will figure out a theological perspective that lets them ignore all the inconvenient teachings as well. I've never read the Quran so I can't comment on comparative violence levels.

>>75699723
>I think Muslims will adjust as they live in secular societies
That's not happening though.

>>75699731
Sure they are. I know lots of Muslims who are perfectly fine productive members of society. There are like 3 million of them here, and we haven't had too many issues.

>>75699743
>I know lots of Muslims who are perfectly fine productive members of society.
Anecdotes.

>There are like 3 million of them here,
and we haven't had too many issues.
Yeah you have. Just look at the percentage of Islamic inspired terrorist attacks, they overwhelming are overrepresented.

The higher the number that they make up of demographics, the more issues there are.

>>75699770
>The higher the number that they make up of demographics, the more issues there are.

The number of Islamic terrorists compared to others is higher, which I don't dispute. The vast vast majority of Muslims seem to have adapted well enough to secular society though.

>>75699731
To bring it back to boxing, 2 of the most famous British boxers ever are muslim, with Naz being perhaps the most beloved of them all.

>>75699798
>The vast vast majority of Muslims seem to have adapted well enough to secular society though.
Lel

>>75699731
I've never seen my parents kill someone

>>75699798
Fair enough. And I don't want to come off as saying that ALL Muslims are bad. I just care about demographics too.

>>75699800
It is off topic so I'll stop. It was the Afghan that brought it up though.

>>75699829
Yeah, I also feel bad for taking it off topic.

>>75699829
but it was carl froch liking that tweet, so it was still boxing

>>75699825
Lol that's reassuring.

>>75699856
And I was making the point that nothing is "wrong with this (Froch) guy" at least in that regard. And did you seriously think the thread wouldn't turn political if you posted that? Just drop the subject.

>>75699895
I wasn't thinking of that man, just expected some froch memes or 80000 at wembley posts

>>75699917
just another example of when shitposting on the internet....goes wrong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpMzgcCdVIQ

>it's another Chavez Jr looks hungry episode

Everyone hates Canelo lol.

>>75700014
Why do boxing channels all insist on using block capitals in their titles? It's pretty fucking annoying.

>>75700024
>Why do clickbait channels all insist on using block capitals in their titles? It's pretty fucking annoying.

fixed that for ya

>>75677557
ggg ducked ward

>>75700056
Agreed, and Froch. He's doing the Rigo trick of claiming everyone is avoiding him because he's the bes while refusing to prove it by going out of the comfort zone of his favourite weight. Doesn't make Canelo any better though.

>>75700056
WARD DUCKED THE HEAVYWEIGHT DIVISION

>>75700068

Golovkin is an all time top 10 middleweight but some people think he could go through everybody from Middle to Light heavyweight. Before the Jacobs fight you even had the odd numpty asking how he would fare against Anthony Joshua

>>75700082
GGG refused to fight Ward at super middleweight, only offering a catchweight because he knew full well Ward had to practically kill himself to even make super middle by the end. The only way that fight would have realistically happened was at 168 and GGG didn't want any of it.

>>75693672
Jones is a freak. He did say though that he partied before the fights to reduce the pressure on himself though, he saw it as a ready made excuse if he loses. Still beat everyone he faced at their own game (except getting his elbow caved in by Hamill's head).

>>75700086
You can look at the youtube comments and find people legitimately questioning why AJ and Mayweather won't happen.

At some point you have to stop taking into consideration the comments of literal retards.

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>>75700024
Blame fight hype. kugan, michelle joy phelps, dontae etc all followed suit.
FightHub tv is by far the most based.

>>75700106
The funny one at the minute is the vast bulk of people on IFL suggesting Kugan should never offer Hearn an interview again because he couldn't get him into Joshua Klitschko and that Hearn can't survive without his publicity.

Forgetting that it was a co-promotion so Eddie couldn't do shit, it was never going to be fixed once Kugan went on a childish twitter rant anyway and that Matchroom can survive without IFL but the reverse isn't true. I don't consider myself of massively above average intelligence or anything but Jesus there are some idiots out there.

Has anyone noticed how floyd mayweather tries his best to sound smart?

>>75700133
he IS smart

>>75700068
same trick mark "too sharp" johnson pulled. le avoided man routine

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>>75700099
Correct

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>>75700086
What a terrible opinion. GGG is not even all time top 50 middleweight. he only looks good against bums.

>>75700133

He's a moron

Which boxer got you into the sport ?
For me it's Oscar, I always found him elegant on the ring.

why are we acting like the weight difference between canelo & chavez walking around are yuuuge?

>>75700329
Hatton for me, like most people born in the 90s, if I'd have been 5-10 years older it probably would have been Naz

>>75700347

THERES ONLY ONE, RICKY HATTON

>>75700329
Sugar Ray Robinson

>>75700344
It's not, but Chavez is taller and hasn't had to make such a low weight in 5 years. Also there's no rehydration clause for this fight so he'll probably end up being massive by the time the fight actually starts.

>>75700329
Calzaghe made me a casual fan and Mayweather made me a hardcore fan

>>75700344
1) Falling for Oscar's hype
2) Although they are near enough the same size, that may still be a disadvantage for Canelo since he's accustomed to facing smaller fighters

>>75700068
>and Froch

He agreed to face Froch at 168 but Froch retired. Which would be fine if Froch didn't then start piping up again a year or so later when the coast had cleared. Froch didn't want any of GGG. And let's not forget that Froch spent his entire career in one division too

>>75700024
Easier for black people to read

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kek, plebs who thought Hearn had ANY chance of convincing the IBF not to be autismal about enforcing their mandatories BTFO

>>75700477

Pulev going sleepy

>>75700492
No way it happens, they'll just drop the belt

>>75700493
I wish they would just get it out the way. Joshua still needs some seasoning. If the Joshua we saw against Wlad is the finished article then he'll never be a dominant champ. He needs more development fights

>>75700477

Pulev is fine for a next bout. There's only about 7 decent HWs so might as well spread em out.

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>>75700329
This exact fight got me into boxing at 11 years old

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Do you guys think that Trump will invite Chavez Jr to the White House when he makes Canelo look like a bitch this weekend?

>>75700523

He just needs to lose some muscle and come in a little lighter

It was clear he's too big at 250lbs, if he was like 235lbs he'd be quicker and have a better gas tank and still have the massive punch

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>yfw the blads wont shat up

>>75700523

Klitschko has a rematch clause, it will happen November so Pulev is getting gifted a title. Joshua has improved with every fight and there are better fights out there for him.

>>75700554
I think his technique is still pretty basic. He needs more experience to get into the habit of constantly moving his head and to learn how to set up his shots with feints, probing punches and lateral movement. He was a latecomer to the sport and that's why he appears a bit robotic and telegraphed. Klitschko looked like a slicc African American in comparison

>>75700477
not the worst choice desu, he had a war with Wlad so an easyish match up is fine. Pulev would still be 2nd (maybe 3rd) best fighter that Joshua has faced. Meanwhile, let Wlad recover for a rematch or get Wilder/Parker/Whyte ready for a title shot.

>>75700633
He does improve with every fight and that's why I want him to keep having three fights per year, because I still think he's some way off his ceiling. It's not going to happen now but if it were up to me he'd face Pulev in August/September and then the Klitschko rematch in December/January. Hearn saying that Joshua is only fighting twice per year from now on seems to mean that they consider him the finished article and the development phase is now over (until he takes a defeat, I suppose)

>>75700633

I dont think the rematch happens, i think Wlad retires. He doesnt want any of AJ, sure he dropped AJ but aside from that one punch Joshua took everything else Wlad has to offer pretty easily. While Joshua has Wlad in trouble a bunch of times

>>75700682
Wlad probably believes he can win a rematch. He still has three or so fights remaining on his massive contract with that German TV station

I agree that Joshua wins easier next time though. His trainers will tell him to forget about fighting Wlad on the outside and just get into mid and close range and land hooks and uppers

>>75700682

The noise coming out at the moment is that he feels ok with how it went and RTL thought it was the best fight of his career. For £15 million I think he will take it.

>>75700747

I dunno man, he has a kid now and Joshua is the kind of puncher that can do real damage to you

That uppercut probably lowered Wlads IQ by like 10 points

>>75700757
AJ's power is overrated

Couldn't even KO old Wlad properly
Had to have a dodgy stoppage were Wlad was blocking all the shots

>>75700329
GGG

Is there a better trainer around than Rob McCracken?

Managed to win world titles training an autistic man from Nottingham who fought with no guard and zero reflexes, won a shitload of Olympic medals as head of Team GB and is now saving heavyweight boxing with Anthony Joshua

>>75700329
Alexis Arguello
I'm not an oldfag, just of Nicaraguan descent

Wilder will unify all the HW belts by the end of 2018.

Who do you guys reckon has the best chance at beating AJ?

>>75701092
BOMBZQUAD due to his power

>>75701092
Luis Ortiz

>>75701092
no one

it's like
1. joshua
2. wlad
...
...
15. parker/wilder/haye
...
all the other hws

all these hws are so shit, I don't even want them to be in the top 15

Based Danny Trejo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcrxkkx7ruY

>>75701092

Fury. taller, longer arms can box at range.

>>75701092

Dave Allen, using the Homer Simpson method

>>75701092
Ortiz. He have skill and a good chin. I don't think he is easy to KO, but he's getting old and slow

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>>75701035
>le hit him in the face man
But I'm a Hearns fan.

>>75701120
Parker will get BTFO early by AJ, Haye is completely shot as fighter and has been for years.

>>75701115
Won't he just get swarmed and sparked?

>>75701118
>>75701142
He's nearing 78 as we speak and they'll probably stall it out like canelo with GGG.

>>75701137
based white rhino

>>75701137
>using the Homer Simpson method
I am intrigued.

Ortiz hasn't looked great in his last two fights, if he is ever going to beat Joshua it has to be soon.

>>75701428
Cubans never look great, they fight to win and nothing else. If they don't feel in danger of losing it they'll won't push the boat out for no reason.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxw0Rqo5XXs

>>75701446
I guess, I meant he didn't look great in comparison to his other fights but maybe it was stylistic match ups.

>>75700133
He is smart though, maybe not in a book way.
You can't have a net worth of 400 million by being an idiot.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_Mobffky2w

Reminder to call every fighter that you don't like shit and a disgrace to boxing and attribute all of their wins to luck or robberies.

>>75700791
He was already on his way out even if the ref stepped in too soon. I don't think he would have made it to the end of the round

>>75701496
There are rumors that he was conned out of alot of money, that's why he's pushing the McGregor fight

>>75701631
>conned

Yeah, conned into buying 100+ cars, a private yet, and a yacht.

>>75699731

Turkey was secular for a long time and so was Iran. Which were both Muslim majority countries.

Only recently they have gotten more conservative governments.

>>75700329

Hatton and his HBO 24/7s.

Pac also, because my city is like 15% filipinos and they all had team pacquiao shirts in 2009.

>>75700541

I saw an interview with Chavez Jr, where he said Trump and Chavez Sr. were friends. Apparently Trump let Chavez family borrow his helicopter and stuff like that.

What are some of your favorite YouTube channels bros?

Gorilla Productions
Ross boxing/training
Boxing Legends TV
Office Hancho
Lee Wylie
Seconds out

Anyone heard of Barry Robinson?

Half of his videos are informative, especially his analyses, but the other half are shill af.

>>75700329
Tommy the Hitman Hearns

Back when I was a skinny tall faggot found out there used to be a guy with a similar build who decimated people with his long right.

Was in love ever since.

Watched a lot of Tyson and Lennox growing up and then Pac-Man before I broke out of casual mode.

>>75701920
To those you have there add Reznick Boxing and Boxing and Boxing's Finest

>>75702035
>and Boxing and Boxing's
Excuse my aneurysm

>>75701481
it's a bad match up for Joshua style wise. AJ would have to outbox him on the back-foot which he looks uncomfortable doing.

>>75702109
I was trained to fight off my back foot but it seems a lot if not every modern boxer have their weight forward. This relies on too much reaction speed for me, do you know of any modern (or retired) fighters that box from their rear foot?

>>75701920
>Boxing Legends TV
>Office Hancho
These guys have nice highlight vids

>>75701848
Well he was with Don King

>>75701920
>Boxing Legends TV

Casual city

What do you mean "to fight off my back foot?"

>>75702344 Mean to >>75702184.
Sorry for my bads skills at 4chin

>>75702267
What's casual about it?

>>75702368
>Tyson
>Naz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKsouRehZzM

>>75702368
He rate some overrated boxers, I found it sensationalist sometimes and he's quantity over quality at editing videos.

>>75702344
It means you're moving backwards, and inviting your opponent to come forward into the space to close the distance. Essentially it's a counter punching style. It's more defensive as you're looking for the other guy to be the aggressor and for you to pick him off as he comes forward.

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>>75702349
I'll try and find some examples in a second but basically an older style of boxing was to have your weight a little more toward your rear foot. This allowed more distance between you and your opponent, even if your front feet were close to theirs.

This gives you the advantage of delivering brutal rights, albeit slower, and also allowing you to "hit without being hit" thanks to superior distance control and almost always having your head naturally off center.

However, I'd say in the past 20 years or so, a lot of boxers fight leaning forward. This gives the illusion of being within range to hit their face. Boxers that use this stance usually have very good reaction speed and can pull away and counter quickly (see Roy Jones and Mayweather). You can't generate as much power with rear hand attacks but if you have good head movement you can counter almost anything.

Having said all that, good fighters can change their stance seamlessly, so might be moot points here.

This pic is an example of a forward-ish stance

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>>75702509
And I know that pic is just some scrub but it's the best example of what I'm talking about.

Here is a traditional rear stance by Kenny. He is exaggerating for teaching purposes but you get the point.

Compilation of Fury back in training.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SW3060YHa0

HE'S BACK, BOYS. AJ ON SUICIDE WATCH.

>>75702585
When do you reckon he will comeback? Any chances that he will fight on the BJS/Khurtsidze undercard?

>>75702509
Oh, okay. Lemiux come to my mind, also Roman Gonzalez maybe?

>>75701428
hasn't looked great because one guy didnt throw a punch and another was a C level fighter with an iron chin. can show what you've got if you have opponents like those

>>75702850
chocolatito fights 100% going forward

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>>75702701
he will never come back, I don't know why people believe that shit, he just needs some attention

why do people believe what a guy says who was afraid of a rematch with wlad? lied about injuries, lied about """"depression""""

>>75702960
he clearly has issues but I think boxing helps him deal with them by being focused on something

>>75703016
his issues are laziness and sweets

>>75702883
He is a massive counter puncher and keep his ward pretty tight. I'm under the impression he's going forward BUT if you look closely I think he's using his back foot

>>75703093
oh yeah that makes a lot of sense, didn't think of that

>>75703060
I've known people with diagnosed bipolar disorders and Fury ticks all the boxes

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>>75683931
>he isn't part of The Money Team

>>75703114
depression doesn't exist, luxury disease

>>75700086
>golovkin is a top 10 mw
Epic

>>75703184
Stfu man, I'm depressed and I'm and average Joe. Mental dissorders are a lottery I tell you.

>Speak to Weldon for five minutes, and you'll hear that word 10 times. Speak to him for an hour and, well, you'll lose count. Weldon is a fiery Texan with strong opinions. But when it comes to the mechanics of boxing, he also happens to be a master craftsman.

>His greatest criticism of what's taught by USA Boxing? Weight on the front foot.

>Counter intuitively, a fighter with his weight like this is not in attack mode. Quite the opposite. Once your weight is on your front foot, there's only one direction you can move with any speed -- backward. You transfer your weight from front to back to avoid an opponent.

>Weight on your front foot makes your jab harmless and your cross a mere poke. You turn the sweet science from "hit and don't get hit" to "don't get hit, don't get hit ... and then maybe hit."

>There's only one punch than can be thrown with power from this position. The counter left hook -- which requires dropping the heel of your back foot. And as it happens, there's only one man who has made a great career of this approach: Roy Jones.

>But see, Jones was a once-in-a-generation talent. He also had a great technical foundation that he bypassed in the pros when he got bored with opponents. Jones' approach worked for Jones, in other words. It has worked for no one since.

>>75703234
>>75703093
>>75702850
>>75702461
Best explanation I could find. Interview with Kenny Weldon in 2008

>>75703251
good shit

Memes aside, who would win in a fight between Joshua and Fury?

>>75700329
Barrera. His early wars got me into the sport and watching his style evolve over the years got me hooked.

>>75703234
The crazy part is that this is the most basic principle in boxing. Having ~60% of your weight on your back foot while in stance is the first thing most people learn when they join a boxing gym. The problem is that having your weight on your front foot is much more natural and easier stance for most people to adopt, I did it too when I first started, and why wouldn't someone do it he can away with it?
Obviously different coaches and different schools of boxing might alter the basic boxing stance lightly but in most of the world it remains the same. Fighting on the front foot is much more comfortable if you are an aggressive boxer. Here are 3 boxers that have more of a textbook boxing stance: Wlad Klitschko, Liborio Solis and Antonio Demarco.

>>75703768
Correction, Wlad doesn't have a "textbook boxing stance" but he does box with the weight on his rear foot a lot (maybe even more than he should).

>>75683903
he is on steroids ding dong

unless they are doing carbon isotope testing there is a threshold which they can still roid and cheat as long as they are under the limit

>>75703865

SHUT UP BLAD

>>75703698
joshua
TKO between 6th and 9th round

>>75702418
>>75702441
>stop liking what I don't like

I wanna KO my roommate, he's 6ft7 and 180 pounds, can't fight (200% german)

I'm 5ft7, how should I do it, low blow would be nice, wouldn't it

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> Joshua
> Klitschko
> Pulev
> Povetkin
> Haye
> Bellew
> Ortiz
> Parker
> Wilder
> Fury

How do all of these "fighters" get away with ducking THE CHAMP?

>>75698493
>>75699162
>>75699432
I'm not into box, but I asked cause, as a casual, I always saw them as only two inventons from our two biggest TV stations. When they started they were always shiling them, saying they were superstars even when they only fought against scrubs. People and the media were hoping that one day they would fight to see the two biggest promises our box had.

Now that the years ve passed I think that Canelo is kinda decent (not world class) and the meme of Chavez jr died. Even with that the media is saying that this is the fight of the year and there's a lot of expectation with it

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>>75704235

>>75700791
maybe his 1 punch power is overrated but someone with his strength can kill you if they're allowed to just hammer away at your skull

>>75704518
Make a wave, cmon make a wave
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH

>>75703207
Just curious. Name 10 middleweights who all convincingly beat him.

>>75704047
overhand straight to the liver

>>75704559
Tommy Ryan, Young Corbett III, Philadelphia Jack O'Brien, the list could go on...

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>he doesn't rank Mysterious Billy Smith

>>75704689
stop naming meme people from the time before cameras and name some actual boxers

you stumped after the fab 4 and RJJ and sugar ray

>>75704766
Toney shits on golovkin

I don't think we have enough information to really assess whether Golovkin would hold up against the greats or not. He may never get the kind of fight that can give us a clear picture of his abilities, but he deserves credit for being so dominant for a long time. Frustrating career.

>>75704835
heavyweight

and GGG would waste him

What did he mean by this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_Ruh8_Cs0M

>>75704766
Micheal nunn, mike mccallum, monzon, hopkins

>>75704944
Toney started at middleweight

The state of GGG dickriders

>>75704885
Agreed,i think he's to easy to read to hold his own against the greats.

>>75705011
>>75705011
GGG would smash monzon and hopkins

never even heard of those other two

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>>75705059

>>75704944
>and GGG would waste him

Did you see the Jacobs fight? Toney, Jones, Nunn and McCallum would beat GGG for sure. Graham, Kalambay, Johnson, Benn, McClellan, Eubank and Watson would have a good chance too

Seriously, Golovkin fought one live opponent and was lucky to escape with his '0' intact

>>75705112
Oh yeah, add prime B-Hop to the "for sure" pile too

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>>75705059
Monzon was huge and had a good chin. Dunno man.

>Pirog

Still angry about that fight not happening, I think Pirog style was kriptonite for lil G style.

>>75705057
I'm not necessarily saying he wouldn't, I'm saying I can't make the call yet. I can't picture how he would deal with Dirty Mode Hopkins or the reach of a freak like Hearns because he's never really been in comparable situations.

Certainly wouldn't pick him against a monster like Monzon or McCallum, though.

>>75705059
Calzaghe would have made him look like a pussy cat.

>>75704235
this old dumb nigga on steroids...

Hey mexico, who is everyone rooting for in your country, Canelo or Chavez jr?

is chavez /ourguy/?

pls respond

>>75705112

Pirog was good but the Jacobs he beat was different to the Jacobs Golovkin beat

>>75705437
meant for >>75705180

>>75705301

Calzaghe was a super middle

>>75705519
Yep,and GGG would have avoided him.

>>75705587
you know I like fight, this is box, max this is sport, this is box, I'm not killer, I need decision fight, I need bis drama sho, this boxing, this boxing, I need quality fight, of course, of course, of course

>>75705747
O.K vlad.

>>75705390
The lady from Lampleys show said even though Canelo has a lot of support, he gets heavy criticism from Mexico for not fighting Golovkin

>>75706735
Canelo is loved by Mexicans the PPV's prove that. Canelo is not hated this is a myth.

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GROVES
KNOCKED OUT
80,000
WEMBLEY

>>75706893
/ourguy/