i hate the guy and messi is the one and only GOAT, but gotta

he is a good poacher, yes

>>75665452
a little more than "good" lad

>>75665376
If it's piss easy why don't every striker score like him?

>>75665452
t. Barbosa benficuck fan

>>75665528
classic non argument

because the teammates do all the work. not every striker has teammates like this.

Benzema had about 3 opportunities in the first half that I think tsu would've scored on all of them

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>>75665376
>messi is the one and only GOAT

>>75665376
>stats dont lie
>missi is the goat

>>75665627
Benzecucks fucking worthless

Someone has to score because Benzema certainly wont score.
30+ days without scoring... Wtf Karim?

indeed, he is pretty good at banging it in

>>75665733
i'm 25 years without scoring if you catch my drift

He's now a 9. Who cares if he does fuck all all game long. 7goals in 3 games of CL. Two quarters and a semi-final. You just have to suck his dick. You would if any 9 did that.

>>75665658
>>75665681
messi is the goat because he manages to be almost as good at ronaldo at goal scoring, while being a much, much better playmaker

>>75665745
And according to Spiegel he doesn't even ask for permission.

>>75665803
Ronaldo gets more assists you ducking cuckold

>>75665803
>that flag

Opinion discarded

>>75665860
this is a no bully thread btw

so you better APOLOGIZE

>>75665755
heh youre a virgin huh?

hahaha heh

>>75665582
Nice damage control. No one else does what Ronaldo does, because no one else can.

Giggity.

>>75665892
kek

good one

>>75665376
It's like you really started watching football this season.

>>75665803
Have you ever thought about the possibility that people do not take american posters opinions seriously?
Just because you play fifa 17 and fm doesn't make you know shit

>>75665681
Even in UCL stats Ronaldo cucks the fuck out of manletman

>>75665452
literally the greatest of all time

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>>75666036

This, CRonaldo is the best of all time.

>>75665803
cringe

I don't get why people look down on him tapping in. The dude taps in because he has great ball control, is accurate with both head and feet, jumps high, huge height and frame, great physical state and is always on the right place. It's not just luck.

Has anyone kept a tally of which has scored more 'important' goals than the other? i.e. no stat padding.

>>75666358
>Messi
>Important goals

>>75666390
Exactly my thinking. I bet Ronaldo has quite comfortably scored way more.

>Hating on Ronaldo
Kek what fag

remember when messi scored the game winner in the clasico?

>ronaldo cucks

>>75666358
This. Keep in mind I would rank goals as this:

Tie-breaking goals: Very important
Second goal after that: Important
Third goal: Not important; Stat padding

Also goals should be adjusted by strength of opponent, form of opponent, strength of own team, form of own team, and role of player in team.

I have a feeling Messi is the better player.

>>75666514
Remember when they were still in the CL?
Remember when he only scored 1 goal in 6 games?
Stay mad Messicucks
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>>75666514
How nice of Ronaldo to give little lionel a consolation prize after being kicked out of the Champions League

>>75666358
Actually yes, but it was many years ago

Messi was leading comfortably

But now Ronaldo has won 2 extra Champions leagues

>>75666552

cant wait till juve wins in the final and ronaldo cries like a bitch again

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>>75666629
>juve
>winning a CL final
lmao kk

Double devil digits and >Torres scores a hat-trick in the second leg.

>>75665376
I just hope he keeps playing as a 9 and stops trying to play in the left side. I had to admit I didn't want him anymore in my team, but he's playing really good now in the box. Not the best anymore, but he'll still be very important.

>>75665860
kek

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Ffs, just watch the replays of his 1st and 3rd goals tonight in slow motion.
Notice how he reacts like 1/2 sec sooner than defenders to position himself and score '' le easy tap ins''.

How many players in the world are capable of constantly position themselves perfectly to make easy goals.

CR is so fucking underrated sometimes.

>>75666358
>>75666579
tv here showed a stat after ronaldo's first or 2nd goal where they were counting all time CL knockout round goals


ronaldo had 50 (so up to 51 or 52 by now), messi had 37

>>75666651

>lol they cant beat barcelona

and barca has the GOAT on their team

if they can beat the best they can beat anyone else

>>75666671
>>75666666
Let's see who it was

>>75666706

who's easier to score on?

juventus? or shittico madrid?

>>75666514
>remember when we barely won against you in that random la liga game
yeah, super important compared to winning the CL

>>75666719
juventus is the team with the most historic CL runners up i think


they've lost the final a shit load of times. its like their gimmick

>>75666731
it was me

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>>75666514

>>75666514
Leaf now and never come back.

>>75666778

>you score against your arch rival in their stadium

>you win the game while penaldo cries

>"meaningless game"

lol

>>75665856

No he doesn't. And his assists are 5 yard lay-offs and knock ons from headers. If that made a playmaker then every target man striker would be considered a playmaker.

>>75666861
>b-but muh clasico
still gonna lose the league title to Real

>>75666705
>easy tap ins
is indeed a lazy argument. Doesn't stand to scrutiny when he's playing against teams with world class defenders and keepers, either.

>>75666947

titles are meaningless at this point

that moment cemented messi as the undisputed GOAT. the shirt celebration should be a statue.

Until Messi does it with Argentina I can't rate him the GOAT.

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>>75667108
>titles are meaningless at this point

Ladies and gentlemen, a leaf post.

Screen cap it for future reference.

>>75666916
He's literally asssisting his team. What what the fuck do you want. Look at his 20 best assists

>>75667108

If bagging in great goals makes you GOAT then I guess Emre Can is in the running.

If Barca don't win La Liga Messi's year was a failure.

When was the last time Ronaldo dribbled successfully or created a play?

He's a poacher and has been for years

His decline started when he was 26, if you compare the way he plays now to then

If he wants to be a 9 that's cool and all but that will never make him goat

Anyone knows about a good post-match show?
I'm looking at the one they do in Spain and it's terrible as always.

>>75667214
Today was one of the first times this season I saw ronaldo dribble past people, and he set Benzecuck up in the 17th minute only for him to completely fuck it up as usual.

so yeah..today

>>75667252
Rtp1 has been p good.
They are also showing all his CL goals.

>>75667291
I don't speak portuguese.
Fug.

>>75667151

shut up pork chop

messi was the best even before that game. all people will remember about ronaldo is how much he cries like a bitch when he loses.

have some class.

>>75667108
>titles are meaningless at this point

the state of modern football

>>75667331

at this point I mean, cause messi has had a long career proving he's a more talented player, scorer, and playmaker.

titles are a team achievement. as an individual, messi is the best.

>>75667356
i dont give a fuck who is a big play maker if his team doesnt win shit


whoever wins more is the best


pretty goals don't count more otherwise ronaldinho would be goat

>>75667328

Please stop posting about football.

>>75665452
hardly a poacher, someone like van nistelrooy or raul was more of a poacher

>>75667396

so is trent dilfer better than dan marino?

>>75667435
i dont speak french

>>75667356

Usually the GOAT is a player who can uplift a team to the highest levels.

Like Maradona with Napoli... Ronaldo with Portugal... Zidane with France... Ect.

Messi has only played for one club team his entire career, a team which is arguably the greatest club side ever.

And whenever we do see Messi play outside of Barca, with Argentina, he is good but not great.

Until Messi does it outside of Barcelona I can't rate him GOAT.

>>75665892
everybody with a brain knows that if you swap messi with ronaldo, madrid would be better and barcelone would be worse

>>75667481

fuck off, madrid is spoiled compared to barcelona, they have always had the first choice of players and the most barca has had is a semi-decent midfield

put messi on real at the same time ronaldo moved and he'd have like 2000 goals by now.

>>75667481
Sensible post, impressed to be honest

>>75667534
>Using what ifs as an argument

>>75667566

more talented player (messi) goes to more talented team

obviously he'd do better, this is a TEAM game after all.

lets just be honest, messi is the more talented player, while ronaldo is just a poacher.

>>75667534

>> the most barca has had is a semi-decent midfield.

Out of all the stupid you wrote this might be the dumbest part.

Barcelona's midfield, including such greats as: Xavi Hernandez and Andrés Iniesta, were responsible for Spain winning back to back Euros and the World Cup.

If anything Barcelona players without Messi still win championships, Messi without Barcelona... Not so much.

>>75667108
>that moment cemented messi as the undisputed GOAT. the shirt celebration should be a statue
I'm laughing so hard at this because I can't believe someone can say such a thing without blushing.

>>75667214
He is literally all time top assist maker in CL

>>75667631

Put down FIFA 17 and watch the game.

Benzema better than Suarez?
Bale better than Neymar?
Kroos better than Iniesta?

Really? I don't think so.

Maybe Modric is better than Rakitic, but that's a tough call.

Madrid does have MUCH stronger defence and a better keeper, but Barca is VERY strong in the mid-field and attack.

>>75667356
I like how you reverse the arguments every time Ronaldo excels in one field.

>>75667756
>Benzema better than Suarez?
Lately, yes, Suarez has been dreadful for a while now

>Bale better than Neymar?
Lately, yes

>Kroos better than Iniesta
Of course, Iniesta is so far past giving a shit at this point in his career.

>>75667534
>madrid is spoiled compared to barcelona

But that's wrong you faggot
Both teams are incredibly talented

>>75667831
>>Bale better than Neymar?
>Lately, yes

lmfao

>>75667831

Bale has been injured on and off for months.

Benzema is complete hot garbage.

Iniesta is still bossing games in his advanced age.

Are you joking?

>>75667831
Both Suarez and Benzema are out of form. In form, Suarez is leagues better.
Neymar is in form while Bale is out. Neymar improves each year as Bale declines.
Kroos is better than Iniesta currently.

>>75667481
> Ronaldo with Portugal

Hahahaha, when Buffon lifts the trophy I'll buy a painting to commemorate Uefadrid not getting what again they don't deserve.

>>75667831
BAIT

Messi the one and only GOAT

>>75667401
>football

Messi: checkers (La Liga)
Ronaldo: chess (Champions League)

Ronaldo will NEVER be considered a top 10 player of all time because his career is just tapping the ball in. Goats are orchestral maestros in all facets of the game. Look at Maradona, look at cruyff, look at Messi. Scoring goals was just one of many things they could do nearly every game. Ronaldo disappears for months on end and when he appears it's just from scoring in the box. He is just not a top 10 of all time and that's final.

>>75668222
Messi's playing checkers but Ronaldo's been playing chess for years.

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>Messi the one and only GOAT

>>75665627

Benzema needs to go. Morata is 1000x better and more reliable and consistent.

>>75667214
>When was the last time Ronaldo dribbled successfully or created a play?

about 3 hours ago yo complete and utter retard?

did you even watch the game? he did both of those things when he crossed the ball for the benzema overhead.

you people are genuinely so fucking retarded it hurts

>>75667831

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>>75666629

>jewventus ever winning a CL final

gonna get dicked down by tsu indubitably

This is the worst Atletico in recent seasons. They are behind Sevilla and 4th in la liga for a reason. Simeone and Atletico just cant be bothered anymore after choking the CL again last season.

If Ronaldo wins the CL, La liga and Ballon D'or, you literally can't say he isn't the GOAT.

You just can't.

>>75668996
Real wins, not Ronald. And balon memedor is just marketing.

>>75668996
He's put in a lot of hardwork but Real don't deserve it.

>>75665892
Klose must be the GOAT then for being an all-time best goalscorer in the WC.

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>>75669224
Memessi fanboys

>>75665376

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>>75669525
Ironically enough, its you who needs to build the wall, Juan Paco Taco burrito Halal supporter

>>75668996
it's really fucking easy to call him not the GOAT because I can think of 3 players in the last 15 years who were better than ronaldo.

>People complain that Ronaldo just scores tap ins, penalties, and poaches goals
>Does this 103 (one hundred and three) times in the champion's league alone
Yea I wouldn't want him scoring goals for my team, there's no honor in that. Scunthorpe United will win it all the -right- way you slimy porutguese fucks.

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Can you imagine if Messi had Marcelo, Carjaval and Modric?

>>75669720
Name fucking one you fucking faggot.
>>75668257
>Object of the game is to put the ball in the back of the net
>Ronaldo does this better than anyone else
>D-doesn't count. He didn't nutmeg their striker, elastico their DM, and score with a rabona from the halfway line.

>>75670053
Messi had Dani Alves for about 7 years who is better than Carvhalal.

Iniesta who was better than Modric.

But yeah, Marcelo is that missing piece of the puzzle that would make Messi score 250 goals a season

>>75669720
>it's really fucking easy to call him not the GOAT because I can think of 3 players in the last 15 years who were better than ronaldo.

t. clueless edgelord autist

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>>75670370
I'm talking about this season, where Madrid's back and midfield is much more effective.

>>75666270
This, /sp/ posters think that donaldo magically materializes inside the box completely unmarked at the right moment to tap it in

>>75665803
>americans & soccer episode 43 >>75665860

ronaldo is an average player who always overperforms.

>>75670370
This

>>75671367
Offside. The rule was brought in for a reason, we already had Pele stat padding a bit too much against nobodies.

If somehow Real ends up choking the league and Cl, will Ronaldo still be considered the GOAT? What does GOATness depend on truly?

>>75671871
>ronaldo is an average player who always overperforms.
If you consistently overperform, you definitely aren't an average player

>>75666270
because /sp/ only rates goals if they're quadruple backflip bicycle kicks from your own goalbox

>>75671871
you are going full retard

>>75673743
Nobodies like Italy in the World Cup final?

>>75665376
SEETHING buyern customer

>>75669224
Who deseves it then?

I agree that this Real is a little weak for a CL Champion, but what else is there?

>>75667534
>barca has had is a semi-decent midfield
>Xavi-Busquets-Iniesta
>Semi-decent
It is probably the greatest midfield ever assembled

>>75670370
>Dani Alves for about 7 years who is better than Carvhalal.

>>75666760

Doesn't really matter. Ronaldo has scored against both. Messi on the otherhand...

>>75667314
>spain flag

>le I don't speak portuguese

just turn the volume up and speed it up by 2x, it'll sound spanish