/nfl/ general - lol Falcons edition

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Raiders

The saints will win 10 games this year
Cap it

>>75636039
I have absolutely no idea how good they are going to be. They're either a 11 win team or a 5 win team depending on how good their defense plays.

is NE really going to pay Garappollo $20mil/year to be a backup?

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chiefs

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>>75636160

>>75636149
Belichick is getting rid of Brady. he's outlived his usefulness. Brady will never see it coming.

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>The Eagles attempted to trade up for Cook in the second round, an NFL source said. But, for whatever reason, they didn't pull off the exchange. "We don't discuss trade scenarios," Howie Roseman said Saturday, a day after the Eagles vice president of football operations opted to stay at No. 43 and select Jones, who suffered an Achilles tendon rupture last month.

>It was unclear where exactly the Eagles had tried to jump for Cook - who some draft analysts expected to go in the first round - and if they had decided the price was too steep. But they would have needed to hurdle at least three spots if they wanted to block the Vikings, who traded up seven slots for the productive tailback. Minnesota forfeited the No. 48 overall pick and a fourth-rounder (128th overall) to draft Cook. Asked if he thought the Vikings made the trade to get ahead of the Eagles, Roseman said, "Maybe."


kek. in the end i'm pretty okay with not trading up for cook. we wouldn't have gotten jones if we had, and there are some RBs in next year's class who i adore like saquon barkley. still it's a shame though, i think he would have been a better fit in philly than in minnesota.

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>GOAT Falcons fan

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first for best Lions runningback

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>Ebron's option still not picked up yet

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>>75636479

did the Bills have an awful draft or why did they fire their GM?

>>75636508
He was a lame duck for months, the only reason why they waited until after draft was so he doesn't sell out their draft strategy to other teams

The San Francisco 49ers

>>75636508
http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/71467/57/nfls-best-gms-2017?pg=3

>>75636508
Bills FO is toxic, but Whaley had a lot to do with it

He refused to take responsibility for drafting EJ Manuel and he frequently fought with Tyrod Taylor and didn't want to pay him

the writing was on the wall, from what has been said he had no involvement with the team activities or the draft

imo the Bills should've fired him earlier if he knew nothing cause now it's kinda awkward

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colts

>>75636590
>>75636557
I'm reading on the whole Taylor thing now, man is clearly incapable of GM spot, for any team.

>>75636556
are bad

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>>75636075
The closer to perfect the more glaring the flaws become

>>75635871
drafted taylor motton in the second. this was the pick they got from the pats for Kony Ealy to go up 8 fucking spots. he better be worth it god damn.

but they have the kalil brothers (ryan was hurt last year), andrew norwell, and pro bowler trai turner. Amini Silatolu and gradkowski are good depth guys. then they have michael oher, but he went out in week 2 with a concusion and is STILL in the protocol. he may be ded.

all i know is this matt kalil better pan out.

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>>75636149
>implying Brady isn't coming home and playing for the 49ers after the 2017 season
they're trying one more run to see if Brady can win another before trading him and starting the Jimmy G era

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Literally din du nuffin

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Superbowl champs who averaged 35 points per game in the playoffs and had the top scoring Defense in the NFL are adding Gronk and Cooks to the offense and have improved their secondary with a second Pro Bow CB.

But sure sure, [Team other than NE] are gonna roll to the title next year.

>>75636910
Patriots will go 12-4 and lose in the AFC CG on a controversial call.

>>75636836
I wouldn't say that, he definitely overreacted and made a mistake but he served his due and people acting like he committed some unforgivable sin are over-blowing it

>>75636632
not anymore

>>75636910
They will lose to the Raiders twice

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>>75636836
>>75636836

He literallly KO a giirl half his weight because she refused his ghetto charms.

When all he needs to in life is act like a semi civilzed human to get free college scholarships, no work college degree, and then millions of dollars.

Betas, KEKS, liberals, trannies, and other ghetto thug niggas calling him "alpha". Lol.

I dont defend/worship ghetto thugs that have the impulse control of wild pitbulls. When literally all have to do is even just act like a human to get millions thrown at you for running with a ball.

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Will he ever start, lads?
On an unrelated note, have they announced the Hard Knocks team this year?

>>75637049
dont know. its the busc

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>>75636178
can't wait for da chiefs to begin the end of the pats dynasty to start the season

>>75636039
Once Brees retires, and subsequently Sean Payton, the team will fall back into the basement. How many years do they have left? 3?

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Broncos

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Pssss

Anyone of you wanna see Chidobe lay the wood on Christian McCaffrey?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX7CLa5saNE

>>75636640
Lol Wilson Elite? chill out hes great when he can see above the line

>>75636648
>all i know is this matt kalil better pan out.
yeah I fell for his last name because of ryan also
they say he's injury free. but I dont know what injury free means when he says that every year.

>>75637049
Buccaneers are on hard knocks vro

God damn.

This dude is literally Cole Beasley.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljazeu2IL9k
Shredded up FSU

>>75637185
What the fuck is this? This was the Cowboys 3rd pick? He is fucking garbage. How did he even get drafted? Looks like he did a whole lot of nothing, besides get PI called on him and get beat deep a couple of times.

>>75637334
t. Helen Keller

>>75637297
>drafting whitey
>ever

enjoy the repeat one-and-done

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>>75637239
top 5 qb

>>75637354
What are you even trying to get at?

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>>75637395
>he doesn't know who Helen Keller is
You're either blind and deaf or you didn't watch the video, because none of what you shit out on your keyboard in >>75637334 happened

>>75637364
Tell that to the Pats

>>75637435
Nah. Just didnt understand what you were getting at since Helen Keller has nothing to do with the Cowboys drafting a shitty DB in the second round.

>>75637364
>this post

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Patriots own your ass.

>>75637454
>Nah
Suuuuuuuuuuure buddy

>>75637334
He didn't do anything because he's barely targeted and playing in zone.

Best game he played last year was against UCLA, blocked a FG and sacked the QB afterwards.

>>75637465
I liked his game against Utah.

Casuals on /nfl/ can't appreciate zone coverage and nickel play. They only care about man to man.

If that's the case Jourdan Lewis is the best shutdown slot CB in the class. Press coverage all day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxmwGu6NRcM

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uh oh

It's a shame Chicago isn't on Hard Knocks this season. Iove a good train wreck

>>75637503
lmao burrs are imploding hard

>>75637503
I'm glad the bears are giving me a team to laugh at as I cope with the prospect of having potentially a historically awful team this year

>>75637503
>Pat Fitzgerald
lol why the fuck

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TFW YOU REALIZE DALLAS DRAFTES SWITZER BECAUSE DAK IS A CHECKDOWN BABY

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>75636640

I hope Wilson doesn't get too banged up. I'm hyped about Pocic. I feel like he's inevitably going to start at RG, which will kick Ifedi out to RT. At least for his rookie year.

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@75637576
You probably wanted a (You) with this retarded post but all you're getting is embarrassed.

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Cucked by the Browns to get rid of one bad quarterback

Cucked by the Browns to draft another bad quarterback

When will we ever recover, Toxin bros?

JUST

>>75637680
You forgot
>cucked by an actual good QB who would rather retire than play for the toxins

>>75637598
Knowing this O-line, Fant will be playing Center and Britt will be moved to Left Tackle.

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>>75637806
>Cable will never be fired

>>75636640
Close anon. Lockett is a Good WR, Wilson is an Average QB at worst, Great QB most of the time when the line isn't shitting the bed. Kearse is Average to Good, Kam is Great not Elite anymore, Wright is Great.

t. Seahawks fan.

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>>75637814
He should be fired if they lose due to poor o-line play.

>>75637806
>tfw they move McDowell to the O-line

Wouldn't even surprise me senpaitachi.

>>75637870
>Ian Rapoport@RapSheet
>Wow. The Seahawks are signing Jamarcus Russell to a 1 year deal. Intend to put him at LG for the time being.

>>75637503
>draft QB after spending 16 million on Mike Glennon
>draft QB without telling Fox that you were going to
>be surprised that he's now mad at you

>>75637888
Czech'ed. I think they should sign the Big Show to play Tackle too.

>>75636640
In no way is Tyler Lockett great

>>75637503
>Pat Fitzgerald
why? his only achievement is keeping Northwestern mid-tier at best

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>>75637896
That boy good. Slightly overrated but he good.

>>75637908
He is good no doubt, but to suggest he's in the great tier is uncorrect. He's more than one tier below the Evans', Jones', Browns, etc

>>75637908
I love those unis.

I'd use a different clip though, I'm thinking his first punt return TD his rookie year desu

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>>75637915

>>75637908
>>75637915
This one
https://youtu.be/PblWvcVp2pk

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>>75637908
>those uniforms

>>75637908
The important thing is seeing hoe Lockett recovers from injury

He had the potential in him to be great and he may have it still, but we need to see how his body holds up first.

whats a good young upcoming team that I can root for?

>>75637937
Unironically the Browns

>>75637937
Raiders, Titans

>>75637937
Cowboys

>>75637937
Jaguars

>>75637956
he said upcoming and good.

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>get excited to see how your team is after the draft
>realize the season is still 4 months away

Every year

>>75637971
Basketball Play offs will tide me over for a month. Then it's time for...baseball. wew

>>75636530
yeah it would be terrible if the other teams learned how to throw darts at a list of names

>>75637971
I study the tape of the draft picks my team selected.

Make sure you see the good and the bad. My team made a ton of safe, solid picks and it shows in the tape. With some potential of course.

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>>75638026
Fuck off.

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>>75638033
OH I'M SORRY, IS THIS NOT SPORTS?

>>75637937
The Cowboys are pretty much done with their rebuild and are about to romp all over the league. Think the 2013 Seahawks.

>>75638045
Nah, this is only the first phase. The rebuild ends next draft because they have a shit load of picks that year.

>>75638042
It isn't

>>75638078
In what way is this not sports? I'm contributing fresh sports-related content. I'm trying to get people to look at the NFL from a new angle. That's sports mate.

What's sports about telling people "this isn't sports"? Delete yourself mate.

>>75637937
Chiefs

>>75637185
lel
https://youtu.be/HX7CLa5saNE?t=2m44s

>>75637937

Jags, Raiders, Bucs, or Titans.

>>75637185
>Chidobe lay the wood on Christian McCaffrey

video unrelated right
i did see him get burnt on an out and up and drop what should have been a pretty easy int, also that PI

>>75637743
I didn't want Romo either.

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/sp/ says nigger QB's are a meme

Should I be worried or is it fine since he is only a half breed?

>>75638045
>no defense

>>75636075
>quinn
>great
bahahaha

>>75638130

You should be worried because he comes from a meme system, makes terrible decisions all the time and has bad ball placement.

>>75638130
He will probably sit behind smeth for a while so you don't have anything to worry about for a few years

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49ers will win a game.
cap this

>>75638141
All of this plus he's going to cost KC a first in next year's draft

>>75638153
That's one hell of a prediction. Are you sure you want to put your name to this, "Anonymous"?

>>75638130

Mahomes will be fine as long as they cut out the Manziel antics in his game. Chiefs defense is solid and the offense ran with less at the QB position, so he doesn't need to try to make something out of nothing.

Plus he wont start this year either way.

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>>75638150

Bet you unironically supported a socialist from Vermont. Or you are a San Francisco 49ers cocksucker in California which is not even America, but more Mehico now. Thats why im glad The Las Vegas Raiders are back in America some.

Trump is the real American revolution. And The Patriots are America's team. Like the Cowboys were.

>God bless Gronk

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Delanie 2.0 on the waaaaaaaaaaay

>>75638221
Nice try, ((((You)))).

If you aren't a neo-Malthusian, you aren't shit.

But let's keep this sports related (right mods? :^) ).

Who is the most redpilled LB in the NFL?

>>75638206

>TEs who can't block
>High probability of being a long term NFL starter over a TE that can block (OJ Howard)
No.

The titans are looking good, and have me worried

t. Raiders fan

>>75638095
kys

>>75638205
shut the fuck up mayo

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>>75638153
Bold prediction: niners will win three games

cap this!

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>mfw two years from now the Jaguars draft Lanard Fournette and the Fournette brothers alternate between BTFOing everyone all the way to the Owl
>Brady retires right before Lanard's first snap because he knows his time is up

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>my face when "people" actually think the team with the best offense and a top 10 defense in the NFL will miss the playoffs this season

>Andy Dalton (objectively and statistically a top 10 QB, it isn't even debatable)
>Joe Mixon (best RB in the game who will be 100% not punching out roasties, unlike the entirety of 2014, he will put up 1,000+YDs/10+TDs/5.0+YPC)
>Tyler Eifert (a top 3 TE already and going into this season will be fully recovered from knee surgery 2 offseasons ago, 1000+YDs/7+TDs)
>CJ Uzomah (literally a Tyler Eifert-clone)
>AJ Green (top 3 WR, 1500+YDs/10+TDs)
>Tyler Boyd (a white guy trapped in a black's body, one of the smartest players in football, elite measurables, incredible upside)
>John Ross (one of the fastest and most explosive players in football)
>Ryan Hewitt (best FB in NFL)

>Best pass rush in the NFL
>Best LB corp in the AFC
>Best secondary in the AFC
>Top 5 D-Line

Barring major injuries to key players, there is literally no way the Bengals are missing the playoffs this season

The Bengals playoff win drought ends in 2017-2018

You can't prove me wrong

Cap it

convince me that the achilles isnt a big deal

>>75639284
Andy Dalton can't win prime time games

>>75639490
this is a bad meme, Dalton has won plenty of prime time games

>>75639284
>best pass rush in the NFL

Every team in the AFCW has a better pass rush

>>75639523
>this is the face of Pittsburg's future
legitimately feel sorry for stillers fans

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>>75639622
at least shazier isnt the only alien looking fucker there anymore. he must feel happy

>>75639284
>best secondary in the AFC

Patriots, Jags, Broncos all have better secondaries objectively

>>75639523
Does he have some kind of medical thing?

>>75637937
Browns, Titans, London Jags

>>75639284
For some reason I really think their O line is gonna come together despite their only additions being a late round O linemen and bringing Andre Smith back

Bengals had by far the best draft this year

1. Bengals
2. Saints
3. Colts
4. Rams
5. Chargers

>>75639691
>rams

who'd they grab in the first again?

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>>75637152

>all these reports of dysfunction within the bears
implosion when?

>>75639757

> implosion when

last Thursday through Saturday

>>75639757
>2014: 5-11
>2015: 6-10
>2016: 3-13

a few years ago tbqh

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i'm not a bust!!!

>>75639780
>not 0-16
there's always more room for implosion until then

>>75639709
They got two of the best WRs in the draft a great receiving TE and a starting Safety

Even compared to teams with 1st round picks the Rams really had a great draft

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>The Bears and Niners had an understanding that if Chicago’s man was still on the board after Cleveland picked (Chicago GM Ryan Pace wouldn’t tell Lynch who Player X was; the Niners figured it was Thomas), the Bears would give at least two third-round picks to move from three to two.
>[...]
>“See if we can get one last thing with Chicago,” Lynch said to Marathe.
>Marathe called the Bears. “To try to solidify this now,” Marathe said to Pace, “we’re gonna need a little bit more to finish. It wouldn’t have to be much. Like, your four. So let’s say your third, 67 overall, this year, your three next year, and your four this year, 111 overall … I’m not gonna string you along … No … I will do it quickly. Let me get with John and Kyle and I’ll call you right back.”
>The Bears agreed. They’d give two third-round picks and a fourth-rounder to move up one spot.
>“Man, who do they want?” Lynch said. “Gotta be Solomon, right?”
>“Call me crazy,” Marathe said. “But I think it’s Trubisky.”
>“Then why’d they go get Glennon?” Lynch said.

>The Niners’ draft board went Myles Garrett, Solomon Thomas, and then, kind of shockingly, Reuben Foster. They presumed, given the scouting on the QBs available in this draft, that anyone who wanted their pick would use it on Thomas, and Foster would still be on the board for a while. So the Bears, just one spot lower, weren’t their preferred trading partner. But the Bears were willing to give up more than anyone else.

see >>75639856

>The 49ers were as surprised as anyone when the Bears drafted Trubisky, and positively thrilled that they’d snatched up three picks in exchange for, functionally, nothing.

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how dumb are y'all gonna feel when the 'meme team with meme picks' wins the Super Bowl this season?

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>>75639856

>>75639856
>>75639885
Why does Pace still have a job?

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>>75639856
>>75639885

>>75639691
Ogbuehi and Fisher should improve a lot this year, offensive linemen usually take a few years to develop and Ogbuehi will actually have a full offseason this time

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>Notable: Asked about being a HC handling a face-of-franchise rookie QB, John Fox said he's talked to his friend Jeff Fisher about it.

>>75639886
lol

McCaffrey was a great pick but Curtis Samuel? Seriously why the fuck does Gettleman always take these tweener types that don't work out?

>>75639933
We'll see. I think running the ball more will naturally help their pass pro since defence's won't be able to just sit back and double Green/Eifert most plays. Bernard should be back healthy and a quick rhythm passing game with Ross and Gio would play a lot more to Dalton's strengths

How's Eifert coming though? Heard he had another surgery

>>75640011
Exactly. Plus, teams will literally have no choice but to keep two safeties back in coverage with Green and Ross on the outside. That means no more stacking the box in the run game or sending exotic blitz packages at Dalton. It also means the middle of the field will be much easier to exploit with Eifert and Boyd. I actually think Mixon will be the starter day 1, as you don't take on that sort of PR risk without planning to actually play the guy, plus Gio is coming off a torn ACL and Hill sucks dick. As for Eifert, he's apparently already running again, so he should easily be ready in time for camp.

>>75639886
As long as Newton is the qb, the panthers will win nothing

>>75640060
It's still so weird to me how far Jeremy Hill has fallen. I remember that week 16 game against the Broncos at the end of 2014 where he ripped their defence and had that huge 85 yard TD run. After that I was sure he was gonna be the next of those elite NFL RBs

>>75640119
their offensive line faded and the constant scheme changes haven't helped

still surprising though

Mixon going to be great

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>>75640119

>>75640119
Two biggest things have been the Bengals transitioning towards a shotgun based offense, which Hill struggles to run out of, and Hill losing all confidence after that playoff fumble. Mixon thrives in the shotgun, is an asset in pass blocking, and arguably already a top 5 pass catching back in the NFL. I think he would have been a top ten pick if it hadn't been for that video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzya9TzuE-0

>Foster hung up on the Saints

>>75639523
Dumb frogposter

>>75640136
>>75640196
Yea yea don't rub it in I already said Bengals killed the draft. We'll see how the rosters look come September but I'd prefer the Bengals take the division over the stoolers

>>75640226
legitimately laughed well done

>>75636178
>that creepy old man autistically clapping to the USA chant a row ahead of them

Why do I get the feeling he's probably raped a 12 year old girl before

>>75636075
>most of the players either elite or great

Fuggin kek, falcons fans are literally this delusional

>>75640256
Fuck off antifa

>>75636075
>28-3

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>>75636178
>chiefs fans are still proud of this game, whilst the patriots have won 2 superbowls since then

>>75638172
>he will be fine as long as he stops playing the exact way he's played his entire life

Yeah, the chiefs are fucked. Mahomes has no prayer

Lions

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Care to explain how getting the best receiver in college football, heisman runner up in the 4th round isn't the steal of the draft?

>Implying off the field issues on a team run by Tom Coughlin

>>75638130
You should be worried because this was literally the worst pick of the entire first round. Everyone keeps getting on da burrz but at least Tribusky has a shot to be decent. There is close to zero chance Mahomes will ever be successful in the NFL

>>75640271
>being this triggered

Don't get your vagina too in a twist now, Billy

>>75640346
Only Jags pick I liked. God I hate the Leonard Fournette pick at 4 though. Thought for sure they would go Deshaun Watson after all Coughlin said about bringing that winning mentality back. Robinson over Lamp was stupid as fuck as well. Jags had a lowkey shit draft imo

>>75640496

You don't like pounding the ball from I with Fournette?

>>75640542
Its a good pick. If your qb sucks the formula should be strong run game backed by a solid d.

>>75640571
I backed youre mum with solid d if you can smell what the rock is cooking

>>75640589
lol that was funny. please keep posting

>>75638130
he is as unproven as mitch and add to the fact his type of QB play DOES NOT work in the NFL anymore

you have to be extremely talented to air raid in the NFL either because you have the essentials which KC does not have or playing against a dog shit team which KC will only play around 4 this year

>>75640618
He's not starting this year or next year for that matter

>>75640542
>>75640571
The Jags have a terrible O line and Fournette ran over small college guys. I'll never count out any player before they get into the NFL but I don't see him being an Adrian Peterson/Ezeikiel Elliot type of player who punishes guys trying to tackle him at the pro level. I wouldn't have touched him in the top 20 of the draft and Bortles is still a turnover machine

Jags defence has serious potential and I loved them picking up Calais Campbell who I've said for years is a HoF player so their fans should look forward to the season regardless but getting a QB who knows how to win like Deshaun Watson would have put them in position to make the playoffs this year. Instead they took an overrated RB because of muh measurables and they'll finish 3rd/4th in the division because of it

>>75640629
Lighten up Francis

>>75640346
i think westbrook was a steal in the 4th, but i don't really get why the jags picked him. on nearly any other team he'd have a chance to be a top 3 WR, maybe even top 2 for some shittier groups, but the jaguars are pretty loaded at WR right now. i get BPA but for a team with as many holes in other places it felt like a luxury pick.

>>75638755

>Mayo

Your mama has mayo between her legs?

And im not your bf you pedophlile.

I dont even know who that is, so stop stalking me you Trudeau loving liberal pink wearing Maple Leaf eating CFL watching Canada hating tranny.

can any SEC fags redpill me on ArDarius Stewart

everything I've read and seen says he could develop into a starter pretty early

Why did he last until the third if this is true? He seems a bit like Golden Tate.

OFFICIAL DRAFT POWER RANKINGS

1. Bengals
2. Saints
3. Browns
4. Vikings
5. Ravens
6. Cardinals
7. Panthers
8. Broncos
9. Chargers
10. Patriots
11. 49ers
12. Bucs
13. Dolphins
14. Cowboys
15. Seahawks
16. Falcons
17. Packers
18. Jaguars
19. Raiders
20. Colts
21. Steelers
22. Chiefs
23. Redskins
24. Titans
25. Lions
26. Texans
27. Eagles
28. Jets
29. Bills
30. Rams
31. Giants
32. Bears

>>75640691
Robinson and Lee are in a contract year. They're definitely gonna resign but Westbrook is quality insurance and is better than Rashad Greene

>>75636501
how long until based zenner starts?

>>75640654
>The Jags have a terrible O line

Meme

>>75640738
apparently over 70% of his yards were after the catch. however i think that, and his lower draft stock, are more of a result of playing in a pretty stunted alabama offense, though. their QB last year was tyrod taylor tier (offense averaged 210 pass yard a game) and couldn't really drive the ball down the field, so guys like stewart and howard got their numbers skewed. it's one of the reasons that howard fell to 19 imo, questions about his ability to receive. stewart could probably start for the jets this season, and definitely at kick returner.
>>75640776
right 2014 draftees are coming up on contracts, weird to think about. again, like the fournette pick, i like the player but i'm a little unsure about the fit. with robinson/hurns/lee, julius thomas, and now a potential 20 touch per game back to feed, i'm just not sure where he slots into the offense.

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>>75637016
>women want to be treated equally
>until the threat of confrontation comes then its "you cant hit me im a girl lol"

>>75640832
>people still responding to the Canadian /pol/ retard
If you ignore him, he usually goes away.

>>75640811
Westbrook was drafted to play special teams and be a #4 so he will probably be lucky to break 300 yards on the season

I'm pretty much banking on Westbrook having the opportunity to take advantage of an injury at some point. Lee and Hurns can't stay healthy

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>>75640774
>20. Colts
>26. Texans
>30. Rams
>31. Giants

>>75637932
They look like some semi-pro indoor league team.

>jags pick up bustles 5th year option

O look at that another team out of the Sam Darnold Sweepstakes hmm thats interesting

>>75640984

it doesn't really stop them from drafting a QB next year

they'll just keep Bortles as the "experienced vet" on the bench while they throw the rookie into the fire.

So it turns out Teez Tabor is pretty slow which is bad for a cb but he's also a ballhawk and can cover like a stalker, which is good but not second round pick good

>>75640832
>Gee willikers I wish it was socially acceptable to hit women! I'd be so tough then!
Beta AF friendo

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>>75640774

>Ranking a literal historic ghetto team as #1 that thinks Drafting/selecting NFL players is like a rap video

>Ranking Browns who won 1 game last season, and might win 4 games this season, after ruining a rookie college QB babby permanently

>Patriots so low, when they drafted next monday night Football Superstar, and will get to OWL yet again, nomatter what

>>75641023
maybe he'll be the anquan boldin of corners

>>75640984
the durrs paid glennon a gorillion dollars and still took a QB

>>75641024
stay asshurt all you want if a woman puts her hands on me im hitting back. i dont give a fuck about your feelings

>>75641019
darnold is likely a top 3 pick if he continues on his current trajectory, though. and there are several teams (cough cough jets) who are essentially tanking this year for a hope of snagging him in the draft, so keeping and starting bortles limits the chances of the jags getting darnold.

i definitely see the jags picking up a QB next year, but it's not going to be as cheap to get a top guy as it was this year. much deeper class.

>>75640984
I don't watch college ball, just how good is this Sam Darnold ?

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>>75640778
When he becomes better than Ameer, so never

>>75641047
Whatever helps you cope. I have to ask you though, do you have similar fantasies where you "defend yourself" against children?

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It's funny seeing everyone give the Raiders a low draft grade because they drafted Conley in the 1st. I thought the Raiders had a great draft, the first 3 picks were money

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Who knew it was possible to fleece a bear.

How did they let the eagles get Darren sproles 2.0 in the draft
He can sign back and learn this year from now other then darren sproles himself

>>75641090
but Zenner > Muhhamad

>>75641308
the whole interview about the process only shows on green lynch truly is and how stupid bear's GM is
>>75641302
seriously that is retarded

bengals in most draft grades get a B+ while raiders get a C- or something because they got conley

If my team , steelers , got conley dude my crap secondary would look helpful for once

I don't care what potential charges are coming the point is he is virtually innocent and even the cops believe so

>>75641344
pumphrey isn't really similar to sproles at all, he's a skinny motherfucker. he reminds me a lot more of warrick dunn.

>>75641396
Shhh he went to San Diego State let me have my memes
I hope we can bulk him up in the weight room

>>75640774
This is the most accurate ranking I've seen yet, its not 100% accurate, but its close

>>75641416
idk man, some guys just don't have the frame to put on a lot of weight. he might have had a great career at SDSU but i can't help thinking his legs are gonna snap when he gets tackled by an NFL LB.

i'm sure he could prove me wrong, and he'll definitely be a contributor in the return game, but it's pretty disheartening for your GM to describe this running back class as "historic" and only come away with a scat back and a UDFA. if next year's RB class wasn't also stacked as fuck i'd be very pissed about it.

>>75641302
Raiders had a pretty good draft above average at least. That RB you got in the 7th Elijah Hood I really liked in all honesty. Had a great 2015 then got fucked by concussions last year but the dude was talking about how much he loved football and couldn't wait to learn from Marshawn Lynch

Lions 2017 UDFA signings

OL Storm Norton (Toledo)
WR Michael Rector (Stanford)
DE Alex Barrett (San Diego State)
OL Leo Koloamatangi (Hawaii)
WR Noel Thomas (UConn)
DT Maurice Swain Jr. (Auburn)
DB Des Lawrence (North Carolina)
WR/TE Robert Tonyan Jr. (Indiana State)
TE Brandon Barnes (Alabama State)
RB Tion Green (Cincinnati)
DE Jeremiah Valoaga (UNLV)
CB Josh Thornton (Southern Utah)
DT Nick James (Mississippi State)
WR Dontez Ford (Pittsburgh) - UNVERIFIED SOURCE
UDFAs invited to Lions minicamp

TE Billy Freeman (San Diego State)
QB/TE Luke Papillion (Sioux Falls) - Source* Trying out as a TE

What are there names /nfl/?

>>75641514
>Jeremiah Valoaga
I went to school with him in oxnard

really funny kid hope he does well

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>>75641366
>

>>75641455
I think next year we end up talking more cbs
A rb
And o line

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>>75641571
That's all blocking right there, massive hole. If he had more acceleration he could've bounced it straight to the right and gotten 10+ yards more

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>>75641621
Hey, Zach!

>>75641514
>Storm Norton

Please let this man make the roster just for his name alone

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>>75641579
my favorite RB to come out of the draft since Shady will be declaring next year, so i really hope so. i'll be really put out if we don't show interest in him. OL is a need as well, if only at RT.

>>75639856

Pace is fucking retarded.

>>75639886

>Implying the defenses don't have his meme play down cold

he got rocked like a bitch.

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>>75641571
>that little jump cut to make the safety miss

>>75641646
That was a well designed play to have the inside route cross outside to screen the DB. Abdullah didn't have to do much beyond selling his route on the SD playing too far back.

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https://twitter.com/bobbystroupe/status/738845453752532992/video/1

>tfw >our rookie qb can throw from his knees better than most qbs in the league

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>>75641704
Zach you're just embarrassing yourself now

>Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter

>Packers plan to release RB Christine Michael, league sources tell @FieldYates and me.

i guess we know why they drafted all those RBs

>>75641024
>Gee willikers I love that it's socially acceptable for women to hit men!

>>75641708
JaWalrus could too

>>75641514
Luke Pappillion sounds like an excellent opportunity to get a white TE

>>75641712
You now remember Shithawk fans sperging over Michael and saying losing Lynch will be no big deal because because of him

>>75641571
wasnt this preseason?

i remember seeing this and thinking abdullah was going to be great

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>>75641730
>he stopped thinking it

>>75641711
>Great blocking/over-pursuit by defense
>Impressive jump cut by Abdullah to make the defender miss
>Good juke but piss poor tackling

Overall great play.

>>75641708

watch him throw from his knees straight into triple coverage

>>75641711
>that angle

Classic Pryor

>>75641711
>#27 missing twice

>>75641711
I don't know why people compare Zenner and Abdullah when they're two different kinds of rb ideally used in different situations

>bears traded away their future to move up 1 (one) spot when no one was going to take bitch trubisky
have the bears taken over the browns?

>>75641735
>God cut to turn up field
>Blatant hold by the WR (#16) to let Abdullah get all the extra yardage after the initial 8 or so

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/sp/ btfo

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I'm bored so here's a breakdown of every Raiders pick:

>Gareon Conley, A+
Top 15 talent and probably the 2nd best CB in a stacked draft. Will immediately improve the secondary and should push for starting reps right off the bat. Great Value at 24 only fell because of fake news.

>Obi Melifonwu, A
I would have been happy with Obi in the 1st and I heard the Raiders almost took him at 24 so to get him at 56 was a steal. I cold see him taking over for Nelson by the halfway point if not before. At the very least he will see the field in sub packages to cover TEs which has been a major weakness.

>Eddie Vanderdoes, B-
I actually like this pick a lot. Injury concerns and the fact that he didn't seem to fully recover from his 2015 ACL tear push his stock down, but if healthy he could be a 1st round talent. He looked like his old self at the senior bowl and on his conference call he was very passionate and adamant that the Raiders got the steal of the draft. Said he was hampered by other knee and ankle injuries in 2016, but is recovered now and back to as good playing weight. Kind of a boom or bust pick at a position of need, we'll see.

>David Sharpe, C+
Huge tackle that fits the mold of OL Reggie likes. Another player that fell because of fake news, this time regrading his eyesight. Raiders have a lot of insider info since JDR's son plays QB at Florida so if they take him I trust them. He looks extremely stiff though and is a waist bender, but I guess that's what Mike Tice is for. Definitely a project but he has tools to become an NFL starter. Also at a position of need so good pick.

>Marquel Lee, B+
Reggie was always targeting this guy according to conversations Lee had with them at the combine so that makes me feel better about waiting so long to get an ILB. Great size, average athlete, great production on a defense that didn't really provide him any help. Terrible in m2m, but good enough in zone. Good blitzer, I think this guy could be a steal. Great Clemson tape.

>>75641735
Preseason is a bad measure of a players capabilities since everyone is playing with kid gloves

>>75641784
>Aaron Rodgers has a new beard

>>75641796
>it's a homer gives all of his team's new draft picks good grades post

no one fucking cares

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So at what point do we learn which teams actually won the draft and which picks were actually total fucking busts?

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>Report: Ryan Mathews ‘almost certain’ to be released by Eagles

>>75641773
>no one was going to take bitch trubisky

I thought the $(ers were in discussion with alot of teams, so there was a fear that someone would get to him before the Bears would

>>75641827
three years from now, when people won't care.

>>75641796
Obi has combine warrior bust written all over him. Safety is about knowledge and instinct.

>>75641827
The latest we can give solid analysis is after their 3rd year in the league. Players take time to develop, players revert to who they naturally are (lazy, troublemakers, bad people in general) instead of who they are to get drafted and make a team.

>>75641830
see
>>75639856
>>75639885

>>75641784
Every hot chick needs a gay best friend

>>75641828
this is nothing new, we were just waiting for him to pass the physical. i actually don't think there was money to sign our draft picks with his contract still on the books lol

>>75641853
I see

>>75641870
without him, who's gonna run the ball? all they have are smallish backs. are we going with a Westbrook type this year?

>>75641921
they're going to trade for T.J. Yeldon

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>>75641796
Now for the four 7th rounders:

>Shalom Luani, C
Undersized S, hard hitter and a playmaker. Don't expect he'll see the field unless there's multiple injuries. Should be a core special teams player though.

>Jylan Ware, A
A small school OT. 6'8 315 lbs. and extremely athletic for his size. Defeninly a few years away but I love this pick NFL strength program will do wonders for him and hoping NFL coaching will as well. Could be a stud LT but probably not. Still a great pick in the 7th.

>Elijah Hood, D+
Meh, I guess this is ok value and maybe we can stash him on the practice squad. But I don't see it, I don't think he can be anything more than a short yardage back. We'll see, but he was crying on the phone about how happy he was and how excited he was to play with Lynch so I'm happy for the kid.

>Treyvon Hester, D
Undersized 1 gapping DT. I don't know what they saw in this kid, I like some of the UDFAs we brought in better. But whatever, hope I'm wrong.

UDFA special:
>Ishmael Zamora, A+
WR from Baylor. 6'3" 220 lbs. 4.53 40, 40" vert. Height weight speed freak, who plays like he's bigger, stronger and faster than everyone else because he is. Great bully demeanor. Compared to Josh Gordan and Martavious Bryant. Could be a steal.

>>75641939
I don't think so, Tim.
I'd rather they get Charles on the cheap.

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>>75641841
It's not like he's all combine. He has solid tape and showed flashes of elite play. Covered well as a CB in the senior bowl. Great tackler, not really a hard hitter though which is fine. Just because he's a world class athlete doesn't mean he's a bust. But stay mad

>>75641921
corey clement, our UDFA signing, is decently sized. but other than him it's probably going to be a RBBC, which is the biggest reason i'm not THAT happy with the draft. there were plenty of starter quality RBs on the board during our picks, and a failure to come away with one in such a deep class even while making it a priority kind of sucks. there is still a possibility of an FA signing like charles or a trade, but it seems like right now sproles is the starter for 2017.

however, next year there will be guys like derrick guice (fournette's backup who outperformed him last year), nick chubb (gurley's successor at UGA), and my personal favorite saquon barkley out of PSU. assuming we can retain most of our key free agents this offseason and everything else progresses, we'll be going into the draft with only a couple major needs, first and foremost being a feature back to take pressure off wentz.

>>75641977

What's an RBBC

is it a Really big one?

>>75642023
Running BBC.

>>75642023
running back by committee

>>75642023
running back by committee

>>75640811
thomas got traded to miami

I think they see Westbrook as insurance in case either Lee or Robinson (more than likely Lee) doesn't sign and the value was just too great to ignore in the 4th round (a deep threat that actually has good hands, only dropped 4 of 84 catchable balls last season)

>>75641708
this is how dumb you folks are

any qb can throw from his knees and pat has to get used to it when he gets crushed by von two times a year for the next 4 years

>>75641944
>>Ishmael Zamora
I hope he is shit just because of his pupper issues

>>75641944
>UDFA
>steal

he'll be lucky to be in the league in 3 years much less be a starter

>>75642083
him and Vick could be great friends

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Thoughts?

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>>75642101
He fell due to character concerns, he is raw in his route running, but he has all the tools to succeed. PFF thinks he has the highest ceiling out of any WR in the draft:

https://www.profootballfocus.com/draft-pff-scouting-report-ishmael-zamora-wr-baylor/

>>75642110
>>75642083
It could happen

i don't think there is a single city that cares about football more than Philadelphia even if they never won the super bowl
it will be hard to top them as a draft city

>>75642138
Pat defense is not great.
Texans offense is not good
Raiders defense is not good

>>75641870
there is money for the draft picks with him and mychal kednricks because of Howie Jew Magic
he is guaranteed gone because he has a 4 million hit and Alshon has 4 million in incentives that aren't on the books
other hot names that will be gone is kendricks and sadly, kelce

>>75642155
>Pat defense is not great.
>the #1 scoring defense that improved in FA/draft is not great

>>75641977
rb isn't that important anymore
we /pats/ rb style now

>>75642182
name 1 good offense that the Pats played last year

>>75642170
kelce is almost out the door already, they signed a center projected to go in the 4th round as a UDFA in tyler orlovsky. kendricks still being on the team worries me though, for a couple of reasons. it proves that he has almost no value at this point, and it's compounded by the fact that we didn't get an immediate replacement for him in the draft.
>>75642196
RBs aren't as important as they used to be, but the eagles don't have the pats' luxury of being able to turn UDFAs into dion lewis just by having tom brady. a back who can carry the ball 20 times a game and 300 times a season would do wonders for wentz' development.

>>75642214
The Falcons

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>>75642146
>character concerns
you mean like the guy getting investigated for rape right before the draft?
or the guy that threatened to assault a dr at the combine and got sent home?
or the guy that smashed his gf's face?
they all got drafted in early rounds somehow

>>75642214
Falcons.

I will fight every nigger here

>>75642221
>projected to go in the 4th round
lol by who

>>75642226
And the falcons put up 28 points on them. That's not good scoring defense

>>75642235
hey Coop,. how's things?

>>75642259
21, 7 of those points were a pick 6.

It was the 2nd worst outing by the Falcons offense after the Eagles stinker

>>75642259
21 points.

>>75642259
The Falcons offense put up 21 on them.

>>75642225
That's why it was a steal that we got him as an UDFA :^)

>>75642270
>>75642274
>>75642275
fair enough, but that's still not that great and given that that game was a choke of epic proportions I'm not impressed. But I'll give it to you. What other good offenses did they play last year?

>>75642298
Pittsburgh and held them to 9 non garbage time points (17 total)

>>75642298
Steelers, Dolphins.

>>75642247
he was the 3rd best center in the draft, and the top 2 guys went in the 2nd and 3rd round. it's not at all unreasonable to suggest that he could have gone in the 4th or 5th, which is where many people had him before the draft.

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>>75639856
>>75639885
Poor fucks

So.. now that the dust has settled, we can all agree that the Cowboys probably won the draft.. again

>>75642374
The Bears drafted the next Joe Montana, they won hands down.

>>75642225
conley is literally a good kid that was getting blackmailed by a dumb bitch

today they will announce he is a good boy and dindu nothing

>>75642308
>>75642316
Yeah steelers with landry jones as the QB. That's like the beating the Raiders without Carr.

and the dophins were so good with their offense that ranked 17th in scoring and 24th in yards.

Wow, such offense

>>75642221
I thought that safety guy was supposed to replace Kendricks
Joe Douglas was talking about him being a rangy linebacker prospect possibly like the cards used deone bucannon
Kendricks snap count wasn't that high at all so it's not like it would be hard for a rookie to fill up that role

http://oak.247sports.com/Bolt/Raiders-sign-Dan-Williams-No-not-that-Dan-Williams-52576505