NFL General - Seacuck edition

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28-3.

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1st for Rafiki the mentally disabled LT

>>75627364
First for SF having beat draft.

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Pats draft wasn't too bad.

>>75627403
Best

>>75627396
Don't have to worry about brain damage with that one.

>>75627364
>FA:McDermott's team: Bills axe GM Doug Whaley
>BUF:'Possible if not probable' Bills fire Whaley
hmmm...

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This unironically happened

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matt ryan is elite

1. Patriots
2. Falcons
3. Steelers
4. Packers
5. Raiders
6. Broncos
7. Seahawks
8. Panthers
9. Titans
10. Buccaneers
11. Redskins
12. Giants
13. Cowboys
14. Dolphins
15. Colts
16. Texans
17. Chargers
18. Eagles
19. Saints
20. Vikings
21. Chiefs
22. Ravens
23. Cardinals
24. Browns
25. Lions
26. Bills
27. Jaguars
28. 49ers
29. Bengals
30. Rams
31. Jets
32. Bears

Baker Mayfield will be the steal of the draft next year and win multiple MVPs

>>75627529

>kliffbabbys

It's clear the bears won the draft by trading up to grab the next Joe Montana but who do you think came in distant 2nd? The Browns maybe?

>>75627525
>24. Browns
>25. Lions

>>75627418
Some of the undrafted guys look alright too desu. I remember Harvey Langi was supposed to be good.

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Eliteford

Who was the last team to "win" the Draft and actually have a great season to show for it?

>>75627540
Kliffbabbies are God's gift to football.

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>>75627563
He probably has the best chance of making the roster.
I do like David Jones and Austin Carr. I just doubt they'll make the team because of their positions.

>>75627619
>Kliffbabbies
What?

>>75627612
Atlanta

How good did the Eagles draft overall? I kinda stopped following after the 2nd round and grades by the media are garbage since they pretty much just give everyone As and Bs

Also will Jones + Douglas be the new Lito + Brown combo in 2-3 years?

So have we officially reached the "The Jags and Browns will totally be dark horse wildcard contenders this year" part of the offseason?

>>75627709
Pretty much. Browns in the Super Bowl.

>tfw I'm becoming more and more convinced that Cutler will be AZ's answer after Palmer
Delusion? Mania? Desperation? All of the above?

>>75627709
No, you retards have to understand that only generational talents like Bosa, Julio, Watt actually make substantial impacts as rookies

The Cowboys drafted 3 elite olinemen over 4 years and weren't good until 2014

If the Browns keep drafting well they'll be wild card contenders in 2019

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Just found out the CB from Colorado the Cowboys drafted is a weeb.

What's up with all the weebs being drafted now?

>>75627784
generational talent is overused

watt can't be a generational talent if he was drafted alongside von miller and aldon smith who both got over 10 sacks their rookie year

>>75627852
>aldon smith
lol

>>75627684
I can easily see Jones being more like Asante Samuel, he has ballhawk instincts and will occasionally gamble hard but never as often as Marcus Peters did

The pairing with Douglas is interesting, if he can be taught to play press well his size will make him a great corner to stick on bigger WRs like Dez, however if he never develops a good press he'll be a shitty man corner due to his lack of top end speed but a great zone corner due to his instincts

>>75627852
You can have more than one of those in a draft, if Rodgers Watt and Julio were all the top first 3 picks in a hypothetical they're still all generational talents no?

>>75627836
Anime is mainstream now.

Get used to it.

>>75627890
He's a fucking retard, but the dude had like 15 sacks as a rotational player as a rookie.
>>75627897
Really I would only use the term for players like Peyton Manning, Andrew Luck, Randy Moss, and Calvin Johnson. Talents that come around once a decade or so.

>>75627836

blacks have loved anime for years

>>75627836
Black kids who grew up watching Naruto are prime age drafting stock right now instead of black kids everyone is used to who grew up in the hood listening to Biggie.
Expect this trend to continue into the next few years. We'll see a downturn in numbers of weebs drafted coinciding with the death of Toonami, and that no longer being the hot shit among kids. In about 3 to 5 years we'll be getting draftees who have Roblox and Minecraft obsessions. These are still people who were kids at the end of the day, and their hobbies just carry with them.

>>75627948
So what is Rodgers? A centennial talent?

>>75627661
QBs played under Kliff Kingsbury, HC of Texas Tech.

Includes Pat Mahomes, Davis Webb, Baker Mayfield, Michael Brewer, Johnny Manziel, Case Keenum. He shits out good college QBs like it's nobody's business.

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>>75627525
>three teams in the top 10
>only team that isn't has a Super Bowl MVP and multiple time OPOTY QB and a perennial top 3 offense
Are other divisions even trying?

>>75628013
A good QB.

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SPRQ is a measurement of athleticism.

Production points is how productive they were in college.

Teez Tabor is slightly above average in production but below average in athleticism.

Chidobe Awozie is an athletic freak that was so productive he played every single DB position in college and is in the 97% percentile of all NFL athletes.

Sidney Jones was surprisingly low in production compared to his college peers mostly because he was barely targeted and Kevin King was instead the Washington secondary was so good. Similar to Lattimore in Ohio State.

Any youtube channels with videos on drafted players?

>>75628136
Rodgers has more impact on the success of a team than Manning and Luck

>>75628218

Everyone in the bottom left guaranteed busts

>>75628218
Lions drafted another bust.

What else is new?

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WAKE ME UP

>>75628013
Rodgers was a project coming out of college, he sat for 3 years because his mechanics needed to be unfucked. He was molded into the gogders of today.

>>75628218
I knew White was overrated.

>>75628348
he sat for 3 years because old man Favre was blocking him, doofus, not because he had shit mechanics

>>75628348
Rodgers was projectes to be the #1 overall pick and a rookie starter. Just because he sat behind Favre doesn't mean he wouldn't have been as good as he is

>>75628268
draftbreakdown.com

>>75628218
SPRQ is a meme, there are so many examples of "unathletic" players succeeding that even when coupled with production you still only get a rough idea of how well somebody will perform at the next level

>>75627612
You mean """"win"""" the draft or actually WIN the draft and have a good season?

If you mean the latter, the Cowboys literally just had a great season last year due to having by far the best draft in 2016. However nobody really thought it was particularly special until the season started. It honestly thought it'd be shit.

Any particular reason that Elijah Qualls was projected as round 3 almost everywhere but fell so far?

My expectations for him are rotational 1st down stuffer at best but just surprised the Eagles found that much theoretical value

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Pretty fucking scary to think that how good our team is relies entirely on Mitch Trubisky, Kevin White, and our OTs. Trubisky better be good

Official draft class rankings:

1. Cardinals
2. Steelers
3. Vikings
4. Ravens
5. Panthers
6. Browns
7. Eagles
8. Jaguars
9. Bengals
10. Buccaneers
11. Texans
12. Giants
13. Chargers
14. 49ers
15. Titans
16. Lions
17. Redskins
18. Rams
19. Patriots
20. Seahawks
21. Broncos
22. Chiefs
23. Colts
24. Packers
25. Jets
26. Bears
27. Falcons
28. Raiders
29. Dolphins
30. Cowboys
31. Saints
32. Bills

>>75627836
Source? How do you know he's a weeb?

>>75628681
>24th ranked defense in points allowed
>80% of the defense is good or better

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>>75628611
If Jaylon Smith plays anywhere near his projection then 2016 Cowboys draft will be considered one of the best drafts in NFL history

>>75628218
Where did you get this chart?

>>75627525
>2. Falcons
>4. Packers
>5. Raiders
>6. Broncos
>7. Seahawks
>13. Cowboys
>14. Dolphins
Too high.

>18. Eagles
>20. Vikings
>22. Ravens
>23. Cardinals
>24. Browns
>25. Lions
>27. Jaguars
>28. 49ers
>29. Bengals
>30. Rams
Too low.

>>75628348
Fucking retard, his mechanics were one of his positive traits coming out.

>>75627364
>Chiefs drafted a nigger QB

JUST FUCK MY TEAM UP SENPAI

>>75628759
You guys are really overrating that draft, even as an Eaglesfag I'll concede you got two fantastic pro-bowl level players but everyone else on the list seems alright at best (not counting Jaylon Smith) unless you can remind me what Collins, Tapper, Brown did

I only argue because it's not really fair to give the Pats a good grade in 2000 for inadvertently drafting the GOAT

>>75628896

Also

>Learning mechanics from Farve

lol

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>Reminder, Round 6, 199th Picked

It does not matter who your fave team Drafted

Does not matter what overpriced Free Agent you just got

It does not matter how excited or how much hope you have

It does not matter how many trannies you libs worship...

For you live in the times of the sweet GOAT!!!!!

To deny or hate him, is to deny beauty or greatness/GOATness

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>>75628689
Keep on hoping that the Cowboys will finally have a shit draft when it hasn't happened in nearly a decade ya doofus

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lmao who the FUCK is gonna score on these boys in 2017??

>>75628943
Pats didn't draft Rodgers

>>75628989
Maybe a little too low for them, Awuzie should be pretty good, but
>Taco

>>75629013
Brady with Cooks, Gronk and Edelman will put up 40

And James White will expose your shit linebacks again

>>75628989
Cowboys haven't been to an NFCC game in over a decade so it's obvious they draft like shit. Seattle and Green Bay know how to draft at least

>>75629013
Oh so are Falcons fags finally now claiming that Sanu and Gabriel are good?

All I heard last year was how Frauddy Ice had garbage and literal whos outside of Julio

>>75628218
do you have a SPARQ chart for DEs

>>75629109
Matt Ryan didn't deserve MVP

>>75628989
Taco in the first round is the definition of shit draft

>>75629013

>2 Clemson players side by side
>2 LSU players side by side
>2 UF players in the secondary

Trufant and McKinley need partners.

>>75628989
Stop falling for obvious bait.

>>75629109
People give Patsfags shit for throwing the team under the bus for Brady but he still managed to drag a team with the 30th ranked oline and injured Edelman, Gronk and Amendola a play away from an Owl against one of the best defense in the past decade

>>75628268
C4 Beastmode tv

Stupid name, but great draft related content

>>75628943
Collins and Brown were solid first year starters drafted in the 3rd and 6th round.

In general, if your 3rd rounder is somewhat productive, you've already beaten the odds there, and if your 6th rounder is even stepping foot on the field at some point, let alone performing as one of the top rookie CBs, you've absolutely destroyed the odds.

>>75629073
Eagles have never won a superbowl so obviously they draft the worst out of everyone

>>75629209
there were plenty of washington DBs in the draft to pair with trufant, but i guess the falcons didn't think their secondary is that bad.

>robert alford CB2
lol

>>75629347
Everyone already knows that. But they've at least won championship games. They're not great at the draft though

>>75629236
Brady's numbers were awful that game but he took one of the worst beatings I've seen a QB go through

While ultimately meaningless, his dragon to Gronk on 4th down is arguably the best single play I've ever seen him make

>>75629347
Drafting does not always correlate to success, you can have injuries, awful coaching (both in terms of game management and player development) or just happen to exist while another team is way too good

Eagles-Cowboys should be a fun series this year

2 nasty as fuck lines going up against each other is always great to watch

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>>75627525
>>75627545

>Bears

Everyone keeps shitting on the Bears Draft pick, and acting like Cleveland Browns made out like those rioting niggas when they wreck cities and loot all the Sports, Electronic, and hair weave stores.

But with Trubisky, the Bears will make it to the playoffs within 4 years, and BEFORE the Browns.

The Bears took a huge gamble. For glory, or for shit. The Browns played it safe, and thinking maybe 5-10 year plan.

And the Bears will have a better record than Browns this season. Nothing significant has changed to make them a playoff team. Unless they buy a FA QB before season starts.

>mfw I like the Bears now some

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>>75629013
*blocks your path*

>>75628959
is this troll? hehe

>>75629540
>And the Bears will have a better record than Browns this season.
wouldn't be too sure of this. the browns are at least accumulating potential, whereas the bears mortgaged most of their draft for a guy who started 13 games in college. even if trubisky is all the bears hope he is, who is he going to throw to? who's going to protect him? that offense outside of jordan howard, zach miller, and kyle long is practice squad tier.

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What do you think /sp/?

>Shit NFC South teams massively overrating their rosters

Is it the Busc's turn this year? I think the Saints are still too bad to win that meme divison

>>75629689
Really shitty, especially the NFC, hope this is b8.

>>75629109
Everyone hated the Sanu contract last year and Gabriel was cut by the doodoo browns of all people.

13 players caught a TD last year and 10 had at least 200 yards receiving and 2 td.

Ryan was the best quarterback last year.

>>75629740
Cowcucks fan detected

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>>75629610
>>75629013
Better, lest autistic looking template

>>75629696
NFCS is a solid division. Falcons should still be solid. Panthers will bounce back. Bucs offense is going to tear it up. Same with the Saints, probably the same story as the last 3 years with them (#1 offense/#32 defense).

>>75629769
Not even in the correct conference, you dope.

>>75629743
Dion Lewis was cut by the Eagles, that's a retarded fucking evaluation of talent

>Everyone hated the Sanu contract last year
All I saw was people say he was shit

>Ryan was the best quarterback last year.
Playing in a dome and against the AFC South with most of his team healthy the entire year and a HOF WR drawing double coverage just by stepping onto the field

>>75629776
>less autistic
doubt.jpg

>>75629630
browns will tank on purpose

they still have 2 draft picks in the 1st round next year, MONEYBALL assistants won't let them go 8-8

>>75629835
You can tell since he immediately called you a cowcuck that they know a 9-7 cowboys record is desperate bait

>>75628831
Wrong

>>75629689
>Raiders as high as 12-4 when they don't have a secondary (Amerson is garbo, don't make that argument)
>Jags only winning one game
>NFCW has not one, but two teams with more than 10 wins
>Vikings and Broncos Regress to being 6 win teams but the Chiefs don't

Completely garbage list/10

>>75628831
Browns at #24 is definitely not too low if anything it's too high

>>75629916
Eagles weren't flawless but how were they 18? You have to be banking on Sidney Jones not recovering at all or very poorly

>>75629916
Please explain the reasoning on any of those retarded rankings, then.

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>>75629879
On purpose? Unless these draft picks are better than advertised, very few people around Cleveland expect more than 4 wins this year based on the talent and experience alone.

Unless Kizer develops much quicker than expected, we're at least 2 years away from competitive football here.

>>75629943
How?

>>75629939
Why would the chiefs regress, again?

>>75630017
It's not a particularly vicious schedule they have. Cleveland could go 6-10 or 7-9 if they win the close ones and get consistent QB play (as in the same QB all season)

>>75629939
Why would the Chiefs regress and why wouldn't the Broncos regress?

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>>75628689
>Pats
>19th

When will they learn ?

The real question is whether or not Cleveland should start "The Process" and go 2-14 another 2 years just to ensure the rebuild is successful

They're already doing a better job than the 76ers did

>>75630128
That implies we can keep a QB from getting injured. I'm not convinced that can happen, no matter how good the line is.

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>>75629630

>Bears vs Browns

Bears Won 3 games at least this season

Browns only 1 win.

As crap as Bears are they still Won 3x as many games. Yes, Browns drafted couple/few good players, But still in QB hopelessness. At best they tie the Bears for Wins this season. Maybe at miracle best they get 1-2 more Wins than Bears this season. While Trubisky prepares. If he turns out in 2 years he starts and then maybe tripples bears wins compared to Browns.

In 2-3 years Garret wont be leading Briowns to playoffs, while Trubisky "i love kissing tittles" could be leading Bears INMO.

>>75629939
It's not 2013 anymore, the Broncos are shit team

>>75629962
Eagles are fine
>>75630000
I would move lions up and broncos down, but the list is pretty spot on. The top is all playoff teams the bottom is all garbage teams. Ain't rocket science. Just because the teams draft high doesn't mean they will turn good, the bottom teams suck every year

>>75629939
Raiders tops 2 picks were a stud CB and a stud S how did their secondary not improve?

Also Chiefs will have at least 10 wins and I say that as a Raiders fan

>>75630142
Being 19th without having a 1st or 2nd round pick is quite an accomplishment.

>>75630142
Grading the draft in the immediate moment is absolutely retarded in general, but for the Pats even moreso because Bill usually doesn't draft well-known hyped players and if he does he doesn't have the best track record with them

>>75629073
In 2010, the Cowboys roster was basically just Romo, Witten, and Ware carrying a whole myriad of aging overpriced turds. That whole team had to be severely rebuild because Jerry tried to infinitely fill holes with free agents and meme trades before finally building a proper team through the draft.

It didn't help that Romo continually masked all the horrible problems on the team for years by dragging them to better records than they really deserved convincing Jerry they were always just one free agent away from a Super Bowl.

>>75630167
One more bad year is all they need and they should be headed in the right direction

>>75630139
>>75630085
Chiefs cornerback core is awful, along with their D line getting substantially worse without Poe around. Smith is a bad QB no matter how much Chiefs fans meme him up. Maclin is fragile and Kelce is a wlaking suspension. They don't have a good RB. The list goes on.

As for Denver, I say they have another 9-7 season. They didn't lose anyone important this season and their QB's have experience, but their O-line is still bad and the running game is going to suck big time. The defense is still top 5 in the league and that alone is enough to win them enough games to put them in the WC conversation.

>>75630231
They'll be fucked once they have to pay all the guys they drafted this year though. That's why you don't rebuild the entire team all in one draft.

>>75630257
Oh, you're that guy from the other thread

>>75630257
I should mention I'm a fan of the fucking
>Rasms
So I only say this out of spite for KC, not out of any love for Denver, the Chargers, or Oakland.

>>75630267
Will they though? It's not like Cleveland is bringing in high priced free agents anytime soon

>>75630267
We're so far under the cap right now it's almost sickening.

>>75630257
Wrong and Wronger.
Chiefs d-line cant be worse than it was last year because
They already have an upgraded RB from the draft.
Kelce hasnt been suspended once so idk where you get the notion he wont be around.

The chiefs would "regress" because they have one of the toughest schedules

>>75630343
How's your offense looking? I see loads of potential on defense if you actually start using Jamie Collins correctly but your oline is getting old and leaving right?

Also you need an elite WR

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>3 RBs
>2 wide receivers

i get one of the running backs, but why fucking 3? great draft aside from not taking more linebackers, not sure how i feel about the biegel pick.

>>75630406
If Rodgers has one of those games/stretches where he gets into a funk (see: the 10 game stretch starting with 77 yards against Denver) you guys are completely fucked

Might as well try to diversify the offense

>>75630203
>Cooks
>Ealy
>Allen
>Gillislee

It seems better than 19th tbqh

>>75630389
Rookies don't usually just step in and make a huge impact, but I guess RB is the best position to do that at. Their D line was pretty bad last year and I just think it will continue to be bad and they will get run over by the schedule you admit they have against them.

I will admit that Mr. do-it-yourself abortion is a fun player to watch though

>>75630406
Special teams probably

>>75630173
Cleveland really has no where to go but up. If the ND QB can be explosive with Crowell, Johnson, Coleman... It's at this point I remember they let Pryor go to Washington... but yeah, the offense can be above average and the defense can be competent. If Hue Jackson is indeed the coach the team needs a 6-10 should be the expectations.

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>draft another franchise RB
he does it again

>>75629159
He absolutely did

>>75630516
>Cook
>Franchise RB

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>that secondary
>so long as Harmon always replaces Van Noy

>>75630527
He only won because Gronk went out and Brady got suspended but I guess since that's the reality he did

>>75630406
Didn't the Packers have to sign bums off the street to fill out the RB slot? With "Fat" Eddie Lacy gone they need bodies.

>>75629962
Eagles did well enough in FA and draft, but they still have to prove it before I'd say they're too low there, and I'm biased for them.

>>75630396
Yeah, Thomas is getting older but they picked up some acceptable upgrades through free agency. Can't be worse than Cam Erving last year...

We HAD what should have become our elite WR (Prior,) but he decided to go to Washington for the same money we were offering him but a shorter contract. I'm still not sure what else they'll do for receivers, but I actually trust this front office to have a plan. It's all about execution, now.

>>75630509
There's some concern about Crowell's future here; a few people are beginning to panic over the fact he hasn't signed his tender yet. Johnson has always been used as a pass catching RB, so I don't have enough information about how dynamic he can really be. And Coleman...I wasn't encouraged with his performance after that finger injury last year. It all comes down to how they develop and grow this season.

Krabs eternally btfo. Worst New York implosion since the world trade center

>>75630551
Mason is the best run blocking RG in the league nigger and got better at pass protection all year he's at least good

Cannon was elite

Edelman is not elite

Flowers is not great

Gilmore will be great with Bill coaching him

>>75630142
You got 4 players m8.

>>75630567
i mean i can see why you pick one of them, and sure, starks is gone now, but you have ty and michael, and ripkowski for fb even though he's a butterfingers, i mean 3 is kinda overkill aint it ?

>>75630267
That is literally going to be a problem no matter what once you have a team with talented players. You can't keep all of them, so you have to start prioritizing.

The Seahawks chose to pay their defensive stars, so Wilson is always devoid of help on offense.

The Cowboys pay their Oline and offense, so they have rely on rookies and cheap FAs to fill their defense.

>>75630555
Rodgers would win MVP every year with Gronk but I guess that's the reality of it so he didn't

>>75630195
>having a good season means your next draft is automatically good
Str8 clownin.

>>75630636
Not really. Ty filled out admirably but can his body withstand a full NFL season at RB? We will have to wait and see what he looks like with 10-20 pounds more muscle.

How much do you think the Raiders paid that woman to falsely accuse Conley of rape and sink his draft stock?

>>75630607
Mason I'm not sold yet.
Cannon needs 1 more great year.
Edelman is the best WR in the league.
Flowers is great. Down the stretch he was turning into our best player on defense.
And I'm not sold on Gilmore either. I wish we didn't give him all that money.

>>75630626

See >>75630463

>>75630649
The difference between my comment and yours is that we have the stats Brady put up with Gronk last year and without whereas your post is 100% hypothetical

>>75630528
You've clearly never seen him play, what else would he be?

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>>75627525
I am okay with this

>>75630722
cook has insane potential, but unless minnesota acquired an offensive line and i'm not aware of it, he's going to have a hard time.

>>75630699
>names of people who were not drafted this year

>>75630516
>RB
>Franchise
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
This is why the Vikings have sucked for ages.

>>75630607
Mason aint got shit on Yanda

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how on earth will the patriots not go 19-0 next year? Their team is actually stupid good and the rest of the league is utter ass right now?

>>75630719
The line you're drawing is arbitrary. These stats aren't in a vacuum. Projecting how Brady would have played with Gronk on the field is also completely Hypothetical. A million things could happen with Gronk on the field, but he wasn't. The fact is the things that Brady needed to win MVP didn't happen in reality so he doesn't win the award.

>>75630770
>His franchise is unable to manage properly their draft pick

This is why pats management rules the league.

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>>75630818
They will choke this year.

No team rules forever.

>>75630852
My team traded back, too...

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>>75630818
The Raiders will beat them in the regular season and the playoffs

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>>75630852

>>75630818
Could actually happen, your schedule is a joke.

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What does Kyle Shanahan know that we don't know?

>>75630852
Listing offseason acquisitions as draft picks and then claiming you won the draft is retarded, Pierre. Why are Euros always so clueless about football?

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super bowl guaranteed?

>>75630939
football

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>>75630818

If that liberal tranny Jew Goodell persecutes and tries to crucify Brady for 8 games instead of 4 this season. Even then Brady still takes Patriots to the playoffs.

>>75630939
He has a high enough football IQ to be a game manager for a good team (obviously not the 49ers atm). Could have a decently long career as a backup. Could start for them in a year or 2 if they build the roster up.

>>75630948
>JPP
>Hankins
>Elite

>Marshall
>Great

>>75627836
Giants 2nd round defensive tackle is actually a weeb. Apparently destresses by drawing anime

>>75630978
Hankins was the best run stopping DT in the league last season and JPP is elite

Marshall is probably closer to good

>>75630939
Looks like motherfucking kevin nash

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmTTucwTG3w

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Last two digit of this post is how many touchdown passes Hackenberg throws this season

>>75630995
>Hankins was the best run stopping DT in the league last season
Stats to back that up? Also, that doesn't make him elite if he's a liability in the passing game.

>JPP is elite
lol

>>75630948
>Gnats tripfag rating his oline as anything other than collective dogshit

Somehow not surprising

>>75631064
Oh, what the fuck am I think I meant Harrison. Damon Harrison.

Hankins was below average last season

>>75630038
Because the Browns will still be a bottom 5 team this year

>>75631074
It's mostly Ereck Flowers that is horrible. Pugh and Richberg is great, Jerry is pretty average and Fluker was meh last season/

Show yourself Krabs you cock gobbler

>>75631106
That can still be the case with a good draft, you literal mongoloid.

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>>75630818
Leave Brady to me

anybody want to make updated rosters for me for XBOX 360 on either Madden 25 or Madden 16?

>>75631099
phenomenal post.

>>75631099
I'm assuming they make the Super Bowl semi-annual and Brady plays till he's 80

>>75631137
>selling fake merchandise

>>75627403
I love me some 49ers. Love that corner we got he can really cover man or zone can't tackle but oh well

>>75631190
Integrity of the game doesn't matter when it's a John Mara guy in trouble.

>>75630950
If you discredit a draft because the franchise use its picks to improve its roster. You're completely retarded.

Pick managing is also a part of the draft rating.

>>75631225
Because the Mara's have earned it.

>>75631190
Silence merchant

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>>75631099
Nice.

Cowboys vs Patriots Superbowl when?

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>>75631099

>>75631221
Never. Cowboys will be 7-9 this year.

>>75631240
Well, you get what you pay for.

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>>75631099

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>>75628896
Oh c'mon not the guy you were responding to but you don't remember all that stuff about his elbow position, and his release, and the fact that he used to hold the ball up to his right ear while reading through progressions? C'mon son

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>>75630995
>had double digit sack season only twice in his career
>elite

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>>75631099

>>75630551
I would have rated Andrews higher. He's also durable and stepped in nicely when Kline went down.

>>75631296
I meant Harrison

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>>75630818
every year some faggot posts this

>still never happens

>>75631099
Welp, might as well not even watch anymore.

>>75631099
Brady still Elite in a hundred years.
Story checks out.

>>75631327
Why? Every Brady Owl has been great football to watch even if you hate watching him win

>>75631292
This. Anyone who saw Rodgers in college knows his throwing motion looked like complete ass.

>>75630406
We lost 2 rbs (Starks and Lacy). There is no guarantee a rookie will be good so you draft extra to make competition.

Biegel is like TJ Watt without a big name that GB got for free

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hmmm

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>>75631099
STOP IT REEEEEEEEEE

>>75631177
Kek approved

>>75631292
Only Jaworski did that retarded shit.

>>75630551
I know Gost has struggled but I think you put him too low

and I think Van Noy will improve with a full offseason with the team.

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>whatcha team need?
>lemme get another bust in the first round who wont play a game and another high motor player who makes the worst possible decisions on a weekly basis
>say no more senpai

>>75630527
Matt Ryan had slightly better numbers than Rodgers with much better talent around him. Rodgers literally was their rushing TD leader. Think about that and think about what MVP means

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwfobmDFiy0

I didnt know the raiders GM is such a funny guy
>"talking to his board"

thats the key to the raiders drafting so damn good

>>75630818
If Belichick slips and the shower and croaks they are like 10 and 6 if that

>>75631472
don't expect me to know who your shitty draft picks are based on a picture alone.

>>75631498
Whoa, Gareon Conley really looks like that?

>>75630818
Variance

>>75631527
Dont expect me to spoonfeed you, newfag.

>>75631527
Joe Mixon is kind of a big name, m8

>>75631001
inb4 quad tear in rookie minicamp

>>75631472
>weekly basis

he hit one girl years ago

the only reason he's le evil is because there is video, there are tons of niggers in the nfl who have done worse.

not even a bengals fan

>>75631622
Yea and Adam Jones only resisted arrest and spit on people a months ago. Burfict only threw one playoff game like over a year ago cmon guys the team isnt filled with niggers i promise.

>>75631626
dez and dak are not elite

>>75631622
agreed. tyreek hill beat the shit out of his pregnant girlfriend and he was named an all-pro last year.

>>75631653
Based off their rookies years they are.

inb4 >oline and zeke babby

>>75631641

That hit was legal under the rules then.

It was not helmet to helmet.

>>75628689
>Saints
>lower than Bears, Dolphins, Broncos, Jets, Browns
bad list

>>75631626
How good is Green? Brandon Graham will eat his lunch if his week 8 and 17 performances are anything to go off

>>75631668
dez's rookie year was quite a while ago

>>75631641
the bengals are scum, not denying it

but I'm glad everyone in the media is a saint who's never ever made a mistake in there life so they can look down on a kid and let everyone know how moral they are by taking extreme stances against "domestic abuse". I'm sure if he had punched a man on video he'd be getting the exact same treatment.

>>75631704
The Saints JUSTed the shit out of this draft.

>>75628753
When healthy

Hard to keep a good defense when the entire team is kill and you have to start 3rd string undrafted rookies

That being said, I bet they won't be able to stay healthy again this year

>>75631472
they didn't take mixon in the first round

This season you're only allowed to watch the divisional games from one NFC and one AFC division, and no other games. What two divisions do you pick?

AFC west and NFC south for me. And I go for the pack.

>>75628681
the bears didn't pay Glennon all that money to not be the day 1 starter

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>>75631721
Thats not my point at all. I really dont give a shit about the case, i just want the Bengals to stop drafting these volatile idiots because it keeps blowing up in their faces.

Browns are literally guaranteed to do better at this point.

Someone could have stopped this.

>>75631753
fuck that I'm watching all the games

>>75631756
If Glennon was the starter on there, I'd put him as Orange, though I could see him becoming Yellow

>>75631732
Reading comprehension. John Ross is the one who isnt going to play a game (like last years 1st rounder) and the word "and" is seperating him and Mixon.

Glad i could clear up my disgust with this draft when their were better opportunities.

>>75631707
Oh I thought you said dak and zeke. A Healthy Dez is elite.

>>75631792
who would you rather they took at #9? i thought they were going to go for foster or allen 2bh

>>75631775
That's not the game cunt.

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>>75630568

Pretty much. I'm hoping to go at least 9-7 and possibly compete for a wildcard, but our schedule is pretty tough this year.

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>>75631626
Template

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My 34 template

>>75631840

>>75629776

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>>75631137
He's like Son Gohan getring ready to defeat Cell in his final form while his mentor Goku (Peyton) roots from the sidelines

>>75631826
I was hoping for Foster actually. Then whatever WR they could pick up in the 2nd and no more injury prone/impulsive nigs.

>>75631782
tbqh I think glennon is better than Osweenie. The comparisons between the two are pretty lazy.

The bears roster is still subpar thought they had unbelievable poor injury luck last year. I hate to say it but I've written off Kevin White.

>>75631882
>I hate to say it but I've written off Kevin White
Same. It's a shame too, I really liked the pick and no one could've seen the injuries coming. Meredith's underrated though

>>75631672
I was just gonna leave this bait untouched but ive got nothing better to do, the call wasnt for a helmet to helmet but for unnecessary roughness on a defenseless receiver.

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>>75631840
were those last 2 guys like afraid to break a nail or something? fucking hit him at least? tha hell?

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>>75631850

>>75631850
>>75631869
>no template for the most used alignment in pro football

>>75632008
Geno Smith will be your starter week one. How does that make you feel?

>>75632008
who do the Jets have at TE again?

>>75630932
look of a sociopath, convinced he would blood sacrifice his children for a couple more owls

>>75632031
wondering why we traded with the giants for a quarterback we let go

>>75632040
ASJ but he's suspended, drafted a rookie in the 5th though.

>>75632056
It's a long story but through some bizarre turn of event, Geno forgets he plays for the Giants and shows up at Jets practices.

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>>75631416
hmmmmmmmmmmm

>>75632033
This is how I have us, removing all traces of homerism and consulting PFF for nearly every position

Also assuming that no rookie CBs start for us

How are you feeling about the draft

>>75632056
oh was just wondering cause I know Amaro got cut loose ages ago

How do falcons fans feel about Damontae Kazee? He was grabbing pick sixes like candy all last year but SDSU was so stacked against the opponents >we were facing. Ints were hardly ever shocking with that safety and cb group

>>75632084
Who got Troy? They got a steal.

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>>75632089
>>75632033
Forgot picture

>>75627525
>Bengals below the Browns, 49ers, and Jags

What are you, retarded?

>It's another people think the Browns had a good draft episode

The Browns don't even employ a scout team. They just watch ESPN, and pick players according to Mel Kiper's draft board without any regard for filling a system.

>Myles Garrett
Begged the Cowboys to trade up for him to avoid playing for the Browns.

>Jabrill Peppers
Literal meme player who doesn't even know his position

>David Njoku
Joke is in his name because that's what he is. Mediocre college player drafted entirely on combine results.

>DeShone Keizer
Meme city pick. Another ND QB which Kiper loves to suck off for some unnatural reason.

>Larry Ogunjabi
First Charlotte player ever drafted. Their school doesn't actually have a football team, they just got confused and accidentally drafted a basketball player.

>Howard Wilson
CB out of Houston that the Browns traded up for because they were impressed with his ability to catch balls thrown right at him by awful QBs in an awful conference.

>Roderick Johnson
Traded up again for an Olineman in a draft where every olineman is complete trash.

>Caleb Brantley
Murder suspect

>Zane Gonzalez
A kicker. the browns are not even trying to conceal their incompetence with this one.

>Matthew Dayes
Unironically the 2nd most productive player in college the Browns drafted that didn't play in a shit conference.

Awful draft, the Browns should be relocated.

>>75632103
N'AWLINS

>>75632103
Saints.

>>75632084
sucks that Joe Mathis went undrafted but I'm sure someone will give him a tryout

>>75632084
barnett is higher on that list lol
>>75632089
it was alright. not very flashy but it addressed our biggest need, and we got some interesting players. jones is obviously the most exciting part about it but we won't know how good he actually is for a while. overall i'd say a B? it's a good draft for a rebuilding team.

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>tfw forgot about TJ Lang and Rick Wagner for 10 seconds

>>75632103
Gotta factor in that he's the only one on the list not facing Power 5 competition.

>>75632084
Not saying Taco is bad at all but SEC Tackles > B10 Tackles

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>>75632114
Haha speed kills XD
gotta chimp fast!

>>75632193
I would hope PFF factors those things in.

Or maybe they don't.

I don't know.

>>75632115
Why so triggered?

>>75632156
He has a seriously fucked up foot with 8 screws in it.

His career is on the down turn from here.

>>75632180
By 0.1. Negligible.

>>75632103
Look at the conference he plays in. Small school guys have inflated stats, they're carp in a minnow pond.

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how does your team plan on beating the tampa bay buccaneers

>>75632180
I'm interested in your grades versus mine >>75632111

Do you have Jenkins at FS? Also I believe Brooks was phenomenal and Cox + Graham were both top 5 at their position

>>75632214
Bears fan, maybe?

>>75632199
Wut. OL is the one area where the B1G clearly produces better players than anyone, even the SEC.

>>75632224
By scoring more points than they do.

>>75631880
You do realize that

a.) LB wasn't a need
b.) Foster has a worse injury history than Ross and may start the season on IR recall
c.) Foster is on the zero tolerance list for NFL drug tests, will serve a long suspension if he gets caught even once. He got in trouble for pot at Bama, so this is likely
d.) Foster chimped out at a nurse because she wouldn't let him cut in line, he's the definition of an impulsive nig. So is Mixon but Ross literally is a gud boy and dindu nuffin

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>>75632224
like this

>>75632214
Just don't want Browns fans to stupidly get their hopes up again only to have them destroyed once the season starts.

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>>75632224

>>75627968
blacks love DBZ

>>75632266
Browns fans are like the most cynical fans in existence, are you new?

>>75632199
SEC has better D lines, but their O lines are god awful on average.

Big 10 have the superior offensive lines.

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>>75632224
giving them the lead and then taking it away at the last second

>>75632300
>god awful
Bit of an overstatement. They're still 2nd in putting out good OL behind the B1G.

>>75632300
>>75632243
On average I guess you're right, what I meant to say is that Barnett played well against SEC powerhouses that almost always have great olines (at the college level)

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2017/4/28/15477666/mitchell-trubisky-bulls-game-boo-bears-draft-2017

Why is Chicago so mean?

Not his fault he got drafted #2 overall.

>>75629013
>up 28-3 in the Super Bowl
>still lose
More like who won't stop them LEL