Ronaldo in worst position to win Golden boot since 2005-6

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>>75550202
baloon door > golden tap-in award

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>tfw you don't know who half of these people are
How much longer do I have to watch sawker in order to know everything without the help of Google?

>>75550468

play FIFA

much quicker immersion

>>75550443

why the fuck is soccer so weird you win a balloon and a boot for being the best player??

why not just have MVP like normal sports

>>75550631
MVP is retarded
Why not just have best player? That way you don't have retards arguing about what valuable means

>>75550443
>Greatest tap in merchant of all time
>Can't even win the tap in award
lmao

>>75550592
This. Almost all of my knowledge of players is from FIFA 10-14. Picked up 17 and wow I have completely lost track of where players are and who is good, especially the young talents.

>>75550468
Play FIFA.

>pacebabby obama in 2nd
>literally almost only attacking players

Sasuga feefa, sasuga.

>>75550983
Nvm just realized this is the golden boot not the door

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>>75550769
>Can't even win the tap in award

>>75550720
Very good point, Australia

And still that faggot is winning the Golden Ball even he's not the best in Madrid itself.

>>75550202
>9. Cavani

wtf, he has scored as many goals as Messi this season

>>75551620
Lower multiplier for the french league. That's why Dost is at second. A shitload of goals in Liga Nos > the same amount of goals in Ligue Un

>>75551147
One of them is tied with Suarez, so soon Messi will have 4 uncontested

>>75551716
>top scorer in Spain scores 40 to 50 goals every year
>top scorer in France has been above 30 only twice in the last 25 years
>somehow Spain has a higher multiplier

Damn, that's like super retarded.

>>75550202
it must suck to be a striker during the same age as messi

>>75551841
Its based on how well teams do
French teams never win shit in Europe so you can't really rate them

>>75550468

this actually happened me with tennis. I stopped watching it for 4-5 years, and after that the only players i knew were Federer and Nadal.

>>75550202
>5. Belotti: 50 Points
>6. Dzeko: 50 Points
>8. Icardi: 48 Points
>12. Higuain: 46 Points
>13. Mertens: 44 Points
>14. Immobile: 40 Points

b-but /sp/ told me that serie a was a boring 0-0 shitfest league

>>75551913
Maybe giving the French league the same rating as the Cyprus league is a bit much tho

>>75551941

yea m8 scoring a hat trick against pescara is so exciting

>>75551941
No mate that's the EPL

>>75551147

>2010-2011
lost league

>2013-2014
lost league

>2014-2015
lost league

Penaldo is a fucking hack.

>>75551950
if i'm not mistaken there are only two tiers

italy, england, spain, portugal and germany at top tier (2.0 factor)
and the rest at shit tier (1.5)

seems appropriate, but portugal being in there must sting

>>75551984
is it as exciting as scoring a hat trick against osasuna, leganes, gijon, granada, las palmas, sociedad, alaves?

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>>75550592
>>75550857
>>75550892
>>75550468
Football Manager is the superior format.

>>75551763
>uncontested
as if that matters, see 2010 balloon door scam
>Sneijder wins legendary treble, carries his team to the WC final
>Iniesta scores in the WC final
>Xavi is brilliant, like 50 assists
>Messi wins the balloon door because he scored really nice goals vs Osasuna and Almeria


>>75552080
>2014 WC final: chokes
>2015 copa america final: chokes
>2016 copa america final: chokes
Messi is a fucking hack.

>>75551763
>Excuses

>>75552218
>Wins treble
Because of Milito
>Carries team to WC final
With no help from Van Persie and Robben of course
>Iniesta scored WC final
One goal does not win an award
>Like 50 assists
He had around 18, Messi had 10 and over 30 goals including being the top goal scorer in the CL

>>75552349
>Messi had over 30 goals including being the top goal scorer in the CL
With no help from world cup winners Xavi and Iniesta ofcourse.

>>75551913
But the spanish league is a high scoring league, it always has been, goal scoring stats are inflated

>>75552438
Its a high scoring league because it has the best offensive talent with the best support weapons
>>75552394
And what about the 25 or so goals he had that weren't assisted? He made up the majority of Barcelona's offence that year just as he does every year

>>75552218
How people think he choked in 2016 still amazes me

>>75552218
I know right? Just like 2013 and 2016 Ronaldo's balloons.

>>75552482
No it has always been a high scoring league, best talent or not

>>75552544
No, it's always had the best talent. When Italy had the best attacking talent in the mid 00's they had golden boot winners. The "Serie A so defence!!!" is just lack of attacking talent, which is why they always get exposed in Europe, aside from Juventus

>>75552482
>He made up the majority of Barcelona's offence that year
Don't be obtuse, he only won leliga while Xavi and Sneijder were clearly better and more instrumental than him at winning international trophies that year.

>>75552600
La Liga is a league where even the weakest teams try to develop a highly technical offense rather than just parking the bus. When weak teams play Barca or Real, they try to score goals and often concede a lot of goals as a consequence. It has always been the case, it's a highly technical league.

In France, even the 5th team in the league would come with like 8 defensive players when they play PSG, praying to scrap a 0-0. 14th against 15th would be a 5-4-1 against a 4-5-1 because no one wants to concede a goal. It's a highly physical, defensive league in which it's hard to really rout an opponent.

For example, Gameiro's highest league scoring total with PSG was 11 goals. He's scored 15 & 16 with Seville and is currently at 10 with Atletico this season.

Morientes went on loan at Monaco at age 28 and scored 10 league goals. He then went back to Valencia at age 31 and scored 12.

La Liga is just a generally more offensive league, and Ligue 1 a more defensive league, the multipliers make absolutely no sense.

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>>75550202
>There were people saying that he would win without contest this year before the clásico, just because two illegal goals against a ten man Bayern. A Bayern that hasn't won the league yet even though we're already in may and that is trained by Ancelotti

>>75553051
>ten man bayern loses vs real
>ten men real loses vs barcelona
wow it's almost like if players are sent off their respective teams are affected somehow.

>>75553204
Twain... shut up

>>75552925
So? It's not just about trophies won. Argentina didn't win shit but clearly Messi was a better player than Xavi

>>75553204

Ramos had no fucking tackles and interceptions, zidane fucked his team over by not putting in isco and morata over benzema, and that balon door candidate of yours didnt score shit while messi got in two goals.

>>75553204
Maybe Ramos and Casemiro shouldnt have tried to murder the GOAT before they received those yellow cards.

Not sure about RuPauldo's Clasico hair, lads. Is it the 1% bad breaking through?

>>75550202
none of those ahead of him are still contending for the CL

>>75553495

>Ronaldo scores vs 10 men buyern
>muh red card muh tap-in wow what a loser

>Messi scores vs 10 men Real
>clearly the best player ever, wow what a goat pls give him all the trophies

>>75551863
it must REALLY suck to be a defender during the same age as messi

i'd fucking TOP MYSELF if I was a goalkeeper during the same age as messi

>>75550443
>a popularity contest is superior to a trophy/award given out for actual good performance

>>75550983
>>75551029
Auba also isn't second you idiot

>>75553945
This borderline gay fanboy thing you've got going on is pretty pathetic. Pretty big difference between 2 offside goals and an undeserved red vs Madrid getting completely shit on and a deserved red for trying to break Messi's leg

That's because Zidane hardly ever plays him against shit teams in La Liga

In April he has played two league games - against Atletico and Barca

>>75554631
He has played around 25 games now; Messi has 29 with 2 subs

>>75554631
>In April he has played two league games - against Atletico and Barca
and was invisible in both games

>>75554667
>Save Ronaldo for big games
>Invisible in them anyway
great tactics

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>>75552218

>Relying on his teammates mean choking

He choked 2015 MAYBE, 2014 and 2016 was because of this fat fucking FRAUD.

>All ronaldo has on Messi is the ability to keep up in goal count by sitting at the box tapping the ball in
>can't even do that anymore

JUST

>Without Penalties, Ronaldo has scored the same amount of goals as Morata, who has started just 12 games

>>75554900
and only 3 more than isco

>>75554900

they would unironically be better off without ronaldo benz and bale

>>75555863
contracts until
>ronaldo
6/2021
>benz
6/2019
>and bale
6/2022

lmao

>>75554745
2015 was more Higuain than Messi... he missed a one on one with Bravo

Asensio is better than Ronaldo already

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Messi is dribling, passing, making goals, is a legend, maybe could be the best of history.

>Penaldo doesn't play the Euro Final, but Eder scores the important goal
>Penaldo gets the all credit

Common arguments for Penaldo

- They would've have made it out of the group stage without him

except with him they won 0 games, he missed the penalty against Austria, he missed sitters against both Iceland and Austria, he took 17 shots and only had 3 shots on target, he wasted nearly all of Portugals chances all on his own, and he finally "showed up" against a Hungary who was already top of the group and was resting players. Fraud

- He carried Portugal through the knockout rounds

Except he didn't, again he missed sitters against Poland and Quaresma had to score the goal after Ronaldo shot the game winning goal straight at the keeper. Renato Sanches had to save him the next game, an "18 year old player" outplaying this portuguese fraud. And after all that, Eder has to score the championship winning goal after Penaldo can't play for more than 15 minutes.

Do you hear about the keeper who saved like 5 french goals? no
Do you hear about the goalscorer who gave Portugal their first international trophy ever? no
Do you hear about anyone but Penaldo? no

This piece of shit hires people to go on social media and post about him. His entire 'thing' is that he needs to be put in the middle of everything just to build up a reputation, a facade that he was once a great player. Anyone who watches him knows he's an absolute disgusting fake.

Pic related
why is he front and center? Why is Messi frustrated?
Just another one of his marketing schemes.
Piece of shit.

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No one will remember how Ronaldo was a fucking fraud at Manchester United and Scholes had to carry that team past Barcelona

No one will remember how Ronaldo missed his penalty against Chelsea but they will remember how Terry slipped to give Ronaldo his first CL

No one will remember how Ronaldo has 1 league titles in 9 years and has failed in nearly every aspect of the game

No one will remember how Ramos and Benzema carried Real Madrid past Bayern to have a shot against Atletico for the decima

No one will remember how Ramos scored the late minute equalizer to send Atletico to extra time where Di Maria, Bale, and Marcelo would dismantle Atletico for their first CL in a decade

No one will remember Quaresma scoring against Poland, or Renato Sanches scoring, or Eder scoring in the Euro final to give Portugal their first European championship

no one will remember any of this because this narcissistic piece of shit has paid millions to get himself on the cover of magazines and hired personal workers to post about him in online boards. That is the cancer that is Ronaldo.

>>75556182
>Scholes had to carry that team past Barcelona
but /sp/ keeps telling me Scholes was shit and overrated

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>>75553613
>RuPauldo

Bored to tears of this irrational messi-hating village rapist gimmick desu.

>>75556229
/sp/ also tells you that messi is one of the worst players in the history of football

>>75555863
>they would unironically be better off without ronaldo benz and bale

Agreed 100%

>>75551930
I know that feeling. I don't even recognize a lot of the tennis players anymore, especially some of those in the top 20 on the WTA

And yet if you go to r/soccer, he's still considered in the top 2 with Messi

>>75556182
>No one will remember how Ronaldo was a fucking fraud at Manchester United and Scholes had to carry that team past Barcelona

No one even remembers he missed a penalty in the first leg of that tie at Camp Nou, too.

Is Dost elite?

>>75550983

>obama
>pacebabby
>in 2017

>>75554745
>when Messi chokes is Higuain's fault
haha okay

>>75556736
>And yet if you go to r/soccer, he's still considered in the top 2 with Messi
because they're not angry contrarian edgelords?

>>75552218

right like when ribery wins the legendary treble in 2013 and ronfag gets the balloon.

what a shit argument fucking bohemian faggot

>>75557854
>ribery wins the legendary treble in 2013
he had like 12 goals, Ronaldo had 55.
also he looks like Quasimodo.

>>75557922

So only goalscorers should be allowed to win the Ballon d'Or?

>>75557961
no.

>Dost

>>75558010

LOL

>sneijder had 10 goals and 9 assists in 2010

>shouldve won the balloon

ok now youre just fuckin w/me you filthy tzigane

>>75557922

btw

ribery had 22 goals and 18 assists ( more than messi and penaldo) BY THE WAY, fool

>>75558156
>ribery had 22 goals and 18 assists
no 66 goals, no WC final
try again

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>>75556174
>>75556182
amazing posts lad, saved

>>75552600
No they didnt always have the best talents, and that's not the point anyways
All I'm telling you is that goal scoring stats in Spain are inflated compared to the other top leagues
It isnt even a question of good defenses like you said, it's the whole approach to the game that's different. Do you understand a little bit?
I'm not denying that Spain has the best league right now or saying that Serie A has better defenses, so calm your tits

>>75554745
>one chance in the 20th minute decides the whole match
What a dumbass

>>75554745
HURTSSSSS

>>75554745
>It's Higuain's fault Messi completely fucked up his penalty in the final
Neck yourself fatass

>>75559277
That would be true if it was like that across the board but it isn't. Below Messi, Suarez and Ronaldo the top goal scorers have only 16 and then it gets lower and lower, compared to Italy and England who actually have a few above that. So it's not just easier to score in Spain, it's just that Messi and Suarez are exceptions; even Ronaldo with 6 penalties can't keep up with the rest of Europe

>>75557817
maybe you should go back there

>>75550983
>hating on auba

>>75561733
>NO U
wow you sure told me, I'm out forever goodbye.

>Dost

literally who?

first time i've even fucking heard of him

>>75562417
Shits on Alberto Barbosas

>>75562436
please buy

>>75562417
dutch striker currently playing for sporting portugal. apparently he's been scoring shitloads of goals this season but he's never really performed for the national team

Ronaldo is literally fake news

>>75554900
>scoring vs eibar and sporting comparable to patetico and barca

>>75565790
He hasn't scored against Barcelona this season, Ramos, James and Casimero did

>>75550443
>Popularity contest > Actual reward with an actually objective method of awarding the best
Ok

>>75554705
tell that to Bayern

>>75569341
>Bayern
>Big club

>>75565899
>Actual reward with an actually objective method of awarding the best
Ronaldo got 4 therefore he's the best ever, do you agree?
>watch this favelao backpedal

DAS BOST