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>>75518205
Think I figured out who that extra 50% was

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Who /ragsinabox/ here?

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>MFW that supercars race at Phillip Island last weekend downunduh

"...exploding rubber sent 11 Supercars spearing off one of Australia’s fastest race tracks at speeds of up to 250km/h on a day of carnage."

http://www.news.com.au/sport/motorsport/v8-supercars/supercars-launches-investigation-after-15-tyre-blowouts-turn-phillip-island-500-into-a-farce/news-story/b2f06e078cd4294430380ed64d5771fe

"At least 11 drivers were impacted by 15 tyre blowouts in Saturday's shortened race."

http://wwos.nine.com.au/2017/04/22/18/42/supercars-probe-phillip-island-tyre-chaos#bPtH8O0W8mwGYPbu.99

That shit was crazy.

>>75534757
always

>>75533661
At least put some effort in faggot. ARCA, PWC, British GT and probably more are all this weekend. Super GT is Wednesday night/Thursday.

Sunday
>ARCA Kentuckiana Ford Dealers ARCA 200 (200 laps, 111 miles), MAVTV 1415 ET/1815 UTC

>>75534757
>rags

You also forgot SUPER TAIKYU at Sugo this weekend

Heres the timetable in Nipponese http://supertaikyu.com/sto/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/kousiki04191.pdf

I have no idea how to read this shit but it seems like both races start at 13:00 JST which is 04:00 UTC?

Anyway it will be streamed on their youtube channel

>>75535989
The races themselves start at 1420 and 1400

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>>75533661
>indycar faggot making shitty early threads and missing events

Either put the effort in or not at all. You could have let the other thread live more while an actual thread and schedule was being made. Why make one early that's so shitty when the other one still had 200 posts to go?

>>75537505
why don't you make a new one then instead of complaining?

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>>75533661

So what do you yanks make of a patrician Formula 1 driver racing in your poxy little yank series?

>>75537651
i think its nice he finally realized monaco is boring

>>75537651
More drivers should skip F1 races to run in other series

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is it possible for danica to be more of a basic bitch

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>>75537651
I think it's funny how the F1 community has basically called him crazy, and how much they actually fear racing at Indy. Regardless, I wish him well, and respect him for wanting to give it a shot.

>>75537651
>F1
>watchable in the past decade

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>>75537806

Never thought I'd see Weezer sponsor a NASCAR ride.

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>>75537713
>imblying
No DeMarcus, Monaco is not boring. Driving in an uncompetitive McLaren is boring.

>>75537753
Bernie never allowed it because he wanted F1 to have an aura of exclusivity - he wanted people to be fans of F1, and ONLY F1, because it made him the most money, of course.

And it worked. In this country, F1 has many fans, but those people are rarely fans of other racing. Bernie put the Monaco GP on the same weekend as the Indy 500 precisely because he didn't want people watching Indy. He wanted them to only watch F1.

Now that Bernie's gone, we could see drivers going to do other stuff - but bear in mind that basically all the other team principals in F1 said that they wouldn't have let their drivers do what Fernando is doing. But maybe we will see the teams crossover a bit more. Maybe McLaren will repeat this feat of running a car at Indy, like they used to do in the 60s. Who knows.

But yeah I do think that any crossover is good, between F1, IndyCar, NASCAR, WEC, whatever it is, I think crossover is good.

>>75537899
I don't think he's crazy, it's perfectly understandable why he's looking for a challenge, because he's stuck in the WORST car on the grid right now -
McLaren (well, Honda) are a complete fucking shambles.

Who knows how he'll do, I keep thinking he'll crash out. People are talking about Alex Rossi, but he raced a whole season in IndyCar before the Indy 500, so it's pretty different.

Yeah I think it's great that he's giving it a shot. Most F1 fans want to see Alonso racing, because we know he's one of the best drivers in the series. So it's absolutely shit seeing him stuck in a terrible car, unable to even finish a single race.

>>75537968
>not enjoying the rivalry between HAM and ROS
>not enjoying the rivalry between VET and WEB
Pleb

>>75538123
Just stop posting right now man

>>75538123
>VWL
>MWL
>teamorderswinslol
>frontrowstartwinslol

great "competition" you go there friend

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>>75538148
Not an argument

>>75538256
>he thinks team orders dictated either the Red Bull battle or the Mercedes battle
This is how I know that you didn't watch either! Both sets of drivers were allowed to race. Red Bull gave rare team orders, although Seb ignored them anyway.

Both pairs were allowed to race almost all the time, which led to a real battle.

There WERE team orders back in 2004 with Ferrari, but that's a long time ago.

>frontrowstartwinslol
Clearly not true at all since there are always crashes, tyre choice fuck ups and/or strokes of genius, pit stop strategy fuck ups and/or strokes of genius, overtakes, things like that.

Not to mention they have to EARN that front row position through a little thing called "qualifying", and again, even if you have a dominant car like the Mercedes, it's still a battle between the two Merc drivers. But Ferrari and Red Bull have both been in the mix in quali in the last couple of years.
And a

>>75538639
>And a
Whoops, typo

>>75538123
>Bernie never allowed it because he...
Was a dirty midget Jew more concerned about his shekels than creating a quality racing product.

>I keep thinking he'll crash out.

You never know with Indy.

>People are talking about Alex Rossi, but he raced a whole season in IndyCar before the Indy 500

The big difference Alonso is going to have to deal with, compared to F1, is the draft at speed, and it will be interesting to see how he can handle it throughout the race. Oval racing pits driver vs. driver more than it does on road courses, simply due to the speeds involved, and the fact that you can side-draft your competitors to induce drag on their cars and slow them down. With good car control, drivers can side-draft their opponents leading into or out of the corners and get them loose and force them up the track, and that's not something F1 drivers are used to dealing with in a race. I think Alonso can handle the car control issues, but he might actually pose a danger to his peers by not understanding the draft and getting another car loose in a turn and sending them into the wall....at 220 MPH. Hopefully his team will set him straight during practice.

>>75538639
>>frontrowstartwinslol
>Clearly not true at all

2016: Only 3 of 21 races were won by drivers starting outside the first row

2015: Only 1 of 19 races were won by drivers starting outside the first row

Seriously, dude?

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>F1

fuck off

https://boards.4chan.org/sp/thread/75517570\

fuck off

https://boards.4chan.org/sp/thread/75517570\

fuck off

https://boards.4chan.org/sp/thread/75517570\

>>75539095
Triggered?

>>75538123
>>75538639

F1 fans are STILL this upset about their drivers jumping ship to Burgerland

>>75535728
>richmond is a day race so arca is on at the same time
ree

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>>75538639
>they have to EARN that front row position through a little thing called....

Having a faster car than everybody else in the series.

See: Bottox

>>75537651
I bet the Honda IndyCar could come close to outpacing the McLaren/Honda F1 car

>>75538777
>>Bernie never allowed it because he...
>Was a dirty midget Jew more concerned about his shekels than creating a quality racing product.
Absolutely agreed

>>I keep thinking he'll crash out.
>You never know with Indy.
Indeed. But surely, even with Alonso's confidence, I doubt he will master these cars that quickly. I guess we will see. I hugely doubt he will win it like some people are suggesting. It will be great to watch anyway.

>Oval racing pits driver vs. driver more than it does on road courses, simply due to the speeds involved
Obviously the nature of the racing is different, in IndyCar you stay close to people basically the entire time. But there are still lots of driver v. driver situations in F1 - overtaking on the outside, or through a twisty chicane, other stuff like that. And Alonso is probably the most aggressive, attacking, overtaking driver in F1 right now, despite having the shittest car.

E.g. last season, still in the shittest car, he gained an average of 2.25 positions on the opening lap of each race, compared to just 0.38 places for his teammate Jenson Button, in the same car.

Source if you're interested - some guy came up with a model which showed Alonso to be the best driver last year, despite the worst car (or perhaps second-worst, after the Sauber): https://f1metrics.wordpress.com/2016/12/02/2016-model-based-driver-rankings/

>you can side-draft your competitors to induce drag on their cars and slow them down. With good car control, drivers can side-draft their opponents leading into or out of the corners and get them loose and force them up the track
True that's not something F1 really has.

>I think Alonso can handle the car control issues, but he might actually pose a danger to his peers by not understanding the draft
Car control will be a big thing to learn too, since the cars are so different. But yes I see what you mean about this drafting thing, I'm sure that will be very new to him.

>>75538123
>Rossi raced a whole season before winning the Indy 500

wrong. Indy is pretty early in the schedule, there's lots of races after it. and most aren't ovals. Rossi only had time to practice on 1 oval before Indy. IndyCar has more road/street circuits than ovals, you'd know that if you actually watched the series.

>>75538891
So clearly there are cases where the front row didn't win. 3 out of 21 isn't bad.

This year it may well be more, since there's more of a mix.

Anyway none of this means that there isn't competition, because there most certainly IS. In the last three seasons there's been competition between the two Merc drivers, and competition among the rest of the teams for the other places. And this season Ferrari are arguably just as competitive as Mercedes - indeed, Vettel is leading the WDC right now, and Ferrari are leading the constructors championship.

>>75539095
Sorry m8.

>>75539790
No I'm not upset. Where did I say I was upset about it?

>>75540618
Firstly Bottas has to fight his teammate Hamilton you fucking idiot

Secondly, FERRARI ARE WINNING THE CHAMPIONSHIP RIGHT NOW, NOT MERCEDES

>>75540635
Hm. Maybe. I don't know. They're set up for completely different forms of racing. But the McLaren is pretty shit so you might be right.

>>75540875
uh IndyCar races road courses too?
Long Beach was a former F1 course?
they aren't "set up for different forms of racing" unless IndyCar is running an oval. road racing is road racing bro. F1 doesn't have a monopoly on that. and McLaren's car is so shit this year I bet a good driver on an IndyCar could have a chance against the McLaren F1 car in a 1 on 1 race.

>>75540753
Okay I misused my words, I know he didn't have a FULL season, but he had the entire season up until that point.

Mate I do know that they run on roads as well. You're right I don't watch it really. I watch F1. But I've been watching some IndyCar stuff on YouTube since this Alonso thing.

Point is that Rossi had much more experience in these cars than Alonso will have.

Actually since you probably know about the series, are there any other drivers in recent years who have entered the Indy 500 without having raced in an IndyCar in any previous race?

>>75540953
there are entrants in the 500 every single year who only race that one race.

for instance, Juan Pablo Montoya has retired from full time IndyCar and is just racing the 500 this year.

>>75540990
granted JPM has experience, but there's always rookies with no previous IndyCar experience driving just the 500. Alonso is just the most high-profile one. it happens often.

>>75540953
also I encourage you to keep watching IndyCar we have comfy race threads on here and honestly the road/street courses are better than any of the ovals save the Indy 500

desu I would be OK with IndyCar only racing one oval, Indy.

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>>75540753
Rossi got to practice on and run Phoenix before Indy, which is more than what Alonso will get, and he got the Indy victory on a fuel win, rather than a dominating performance. A win's a win, though, and it's a credit to him and his team.

>>75540875
>3 out of 21 isn't bad.

No, it's atrocious, and the lack of competition is an insult to race fans like you and I, and the drivers that end up running the shitboxes in the series.

> Bottas has to fight his teammate Hamilton

Actually, I'd say that Hamilton has to fight Bottox, less he be exposed as the mediocre driver he is again this year too.

Regardless, my standard of competition is different than yours, and I think race fans deserve to see victories achieved as a result of driver skill more than engineering budgets and oil/fuel cheats.

>>75541257
Alonso is getting a special private test session, the other drivers get just the regular Indy 500 practice and qualifying sessions

>>75541129
The Texas race last year was the best open wheeled race of the entire season in any series.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv8KNya9aeA

That finish was insane.

Alonso is getting rolled out the proverbial red carpet just because he's Fernando fucking Alonso. yeah he's never done Indy before but he's still gonna get more practice time than anyone else. when Kurt Busch from NASCAR decided to try Indy, he didn't get this kind of VIP treatment.

i hope JPM overtakes alonso on the last lap of the 500 to win

>>75541460
KB has literally raced at IMS though

>>75541353
yeah it was alright
but honestly I see IndyCar as what F1 could be, open wheel cars on road courses but with tighter competition due to stricter rules on money taking over the sport. I like ovals too don't get me wrong, but back when there was the CART/IRL split, and IRL only ran ovals, I was watching CART more often. ovals are nice but besides Indy, too many ovals and you might as well watch NASCAR.

>>75541575
yeah, in a NASCAR stock car in the Brickyard 400.
an open wheel car with high downforce and high horsepower compared to a closed wheel car with less horsepower and almost no downforce is much different

indy 500 is a boring meme race
monaco is a boring meme race with no passing and mwl
coke 600 is really boring

the whole day is a meme

>>75541946
for me, it's the Indianapolis 500 Mile Race, the least boring meme race.

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nice to know /motorSPort/ general cares about IndyCar for once

>>75540947
>uh IndyCar races road courses too?
>Long Beach was a former F1 course?
I know, and I know, but the latter was an F1 track a pretty long time ago. I think the 80s was the last time it was used. Modern F1 tracks have evolved a lot - they have pretty high and strict standards for construction, partly for safety, but I'm sure there are other reasons, like giving F1 some cachet, and I'm sure advertising space is probably another reason. Bernie was a fucking Jew so everything he did was ultimately about money.

>they aren't "set up for different forms of racing" unless IndyCar is running an oval. road racing is road racing bro. F1 doesn't have a monopoly on that.
Ah that's true I guess, if an IndyCar is set up in its road racing configuration, then yeah I guess you're right.

>and McLaren's car is so shit this year I bet a good driver on an IndyCar could have a chance against the McLaren F1 car in a 1 on 1 race.
That might be true I guess. It would be interesting to see. They've got completely different regulations of course so I wonder which one produces the most downforce - F1 of course invests heavily in aerodynamics, especially the front-wings which are very complex, but IndyCars have nearly-covered rear wheels which I guess gives downforce, and less turbulence. F1 now has bigger tyres which I guess have bigger contact patches - but I wonder how the tyre compounds differ. And of course acceleration and straight line speed would be interesting - F1 cars have the hybrid boost for acceleration, but the IndyCar might be faster on long straights, because that's where the McLaren suffers, due to a power deficit from the engine.

This is not relevant to the current cars, but I read how in the early 90s they raced CART cars and F1 cars at the Canadian Gilles Villeneuve circuit, and the CART cars were a few seconds slower per lap. Obviously today's cars are different though.

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>>75541290
>>75541460

They're doing that because it would be a PR nightmare if the special snowflake F1 driver ends up getting smeared across the turn 1 concrete barrier and catch-fence at Indy for fucking up, and they want to be able to say they "did everything they could" to prepare Alonso for the race.

>Kurt Busch from NASCAR
That nigger spent years driving a 3500 pound brick around Indy, Talladega, and Daytona, at damn near 200 MPH already, so I don't think it's a big transition when you get a car that's half the weight, has way more downforce, and actually way better than the shitbox you normally run in, in every possible way. Pretty based, regardless, as he finished 6th after starting from P12.

>>75540990
>>75541052
>granted JPM has experience, but there's always rookies with no previous IndyCar experience driving just the 500. Alonso is just the most high-profile one. it happens often.
Ah right okay. Yes I was going to say, JPM of course has raced IndyCar many times before and won the 500 twice - that's part of the small amount of knowledge I do actually know.

What do Americans think of him? He was one of the best F1 drivers during his time, without a doubt, and it's incredibly rare for an F1 driver at the top of his game to leave for something else. I always wish he had stayed longer, almost any other driver in his situation would have done. He's a cocky arrogant bastard but he was good. I reckon he could have won the championship if he hadn't started slipping in form, and falling out with McLaren. In the two years after he left, 2007 and 2008, Lewis Hamilton in the McLaren came 2nd and then 1st in the championship. That could have been Montoya. Although I guess I'm glad it was Lewis.

>>75541129
I have watched clips of road courses on YouTube, I was watching a race being led by Takuma Sato (of course from F1), for him to lose it on the last lap.

Anyway if nothing else I'll watch the Indy 500 of course to see Alonso fuck it all up.

>>75540953
I'll dig a little further to see how long ago the last true Indy one-off was, but here's a look at the grand oval racing credentials of last year's rookie class.

>Rossi, 5 Indycar races, 1 on an oval
>Chilton, 5 Indycar races, 1 on an oval
>Brabham, 1 Indycar race, 1 full season in Indy Lights (won a race at Indy)
>Pigot, 2 Indycar races, 1 season in Indy Lights
>Wilson, 1 Indycar race, ~2 full seasons in Indy Lights

>>75542197
yeah, CART/Champ Car used to race at Circuit Gilles Villenueve in Montreal and I think the lap times were about 7 or 8 seconds slower than F1. not bad, considering the tiny budget of the teams compared to F1 budgets.

that's why I wish Fernando Alonso was going to race the race before the 500, the Indy Grand Prix, which takes place on the infield road course that the F1 US GP used to race on, about a week before the Indy 500 on the superspeedway. would be interesting to see him race the Dallara/Honda Indy Car on a familiar road course and then see how he does on the oval (correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe he ran the F1 US GP at Indianapolis earlier in his career)

>>75542473
Most recent would be Sage Karam, who finished 9th in the 2014 500, his first Indycar race.

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>>75542461
>What do Americans think of him?
He wasn't very good and hit a jet dryer

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>>75541530
>i hope JPM overtakes alonso on the last lap

I see JPM side-drafting the shit out of him and intentionally making his car loose to fuck with Alonso's head.
>"Bienvenido a Indy, puta."

>>75542461
American race fans like Montoya generally, maybe some of the NASCAR rednecks don't because he's "a furriner" but he's considered a legend among Indy Car fans. also he's the only living driver to have won 2 legs of the "Triple Crown of Motorsport", i.e., win Monaco GP, win Indy 500, win LeMans 24 hours. if he could try for and win LeMans, he could be the next Graham Hill.

>>75542578
Jack Harvey will be Alonso's teammate and the 500 will also be his first race.

Lets see who finishes higher

>>75541257
>No, it's atrocious, and the lack of competition is an insult to race fans like you and I, and the drivers that end up running the shitboxes in the series.
1) Even if a car is dominant, there is still competition between the drivers of that team
2) Even if a car is dominant, there is still competition between all the other teams for podium places
3) Even if a car is dominant, there are usually certain tracks where they're *not* dominant, e.g. Monaco, where Red Bull were the best team last year. They qualified on pole, and should have won the race, but they lost because they fucked up their pit stop.

>Actually, I'd say that Hamilton has to fight Bottox, less he be exposed as the mediocre driver he is again this year too.
All the same shit mate, the point is the teammates are fighting each other.

>Regardless, my standard of competition is different than yours, and I think race fans deserve to see victories achieved as a result of driver skill more than engineering budgets and oil/fuel cheats.
You don't understand F1 - engineering has ALWAYS been a part of the competition, and always will be.

Lotus with ground effects. Williams with active suspension (picture related). Red Bull with blown diffusers. Mercedes with a split turbo. The engineering has always been a part of the competition in F1. It isn't a spec series.

>>75541460
I hope he does get lots of practice time, because while I'm not getting my hopes up, I do think it would be fucking awesome if he won.

Do Americans know who Alonso is? I would have thought they probably don't.

>>75541530
Kek.

>>75541946
>monaco is a boring meme race
No it's not, it's arguably one of the most exciting because there are ALWAYS crashes. It's probably the most challenging circuit of the year.

>mwl
Red Bull were the best car there last year, and could well be this year too. Or maybe Ferrari, but I would bet on Red Bull.

Can this blind F1tard stop already? The delusion of his is painful.

>>75542867
>do Americans know who Alonso is

American race fans do, but the general public who only turn on NASCAR when football isn't on, might not. general "normie" Americans only know F1 via Mario Andretti, and the younger generations might not even know Mario.

>>75542461
>What do Americans think of him?

I respect the fuck out of JPM and think he's a great race car driver.

That pudgy little fucker has won races in pretty much every series he's driven in, and that's not easy to do.

>>75543113
I remember when Ayrton Senna died, Dale Earnhardt Sr. gave his condolences to Senna's family in a post-race interview. I'm sure a lot of viewers were like "who the hell is Ayrton Senna?!"

>>75542569
>I believe he ran the F1 US GP at Indianapolis earlier in his career

He ran it 6 times from 01'-07', but not in 02'.

>>75542298
I like that image. But please don't call F1 drivers "special snowflakes".

>>75542473
Interesting. Thanks.

>>75542569
Yes he did drive in the F1 US GP, nearly won it a couple of times I think. This was back in the early-mid 2000s, before the big 2005 controversy, where only 3 out of 10 teams ran in the race - the reason being that the Michelin tyres used by all the other teams were failing in the last banked corner, the only banked corner in F1 for the last few decades I think.

Yeah it definitely would be cool to see Alonso do that, since he would of course be right in his element on a road track, and especially one he has raced a few times before.

>>75542578
>>75542771
Ah wow. So there are people who have done it. Fair.

>>75542586
>he wasn't very good
Do you mean in NASCAR, or Indy, or both? The fact that he's won the Indy 500 twice is pretty good, right?

>>75542763
Fair. Yeah I know about the two legs thing, and I don't think it would be that hard to win Le Mans, you just have to get on the right team, and I'm sure they'd make a space for him. Nico Hulkenberg and Mark Webber, both F1 drivers (the latter having retired), both raced at Le Mans in 2015 and they came 1st and 2nd respectively.

>>75543503
yeah so he at least knows one turn of the banked oval, except the road course runs it the opposite direction.

I think Fernando is gonna do just fine. I'm excited to see it, although I'd like to see him in an IndyCar on a road course as well

>>75543602
that Anon was talking about his relatively unsuccessful NASCAR attempt, and yes he hit the jet dryer on the track lol

>>75543602
the thing with Lemans is, yeah you race great, car is running fast all day all night, you have a chance to win, but then one of your co-drivers wrecks it coming off the Mulsanne straight and your race is done. LeMans is teamwork, beyond the regular driver/pit crew/strategist teamwork. you have to rely on 2 other drivers.

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>>75543017
>stop liking things I don't like
Picture related

>>75543113
Fair enough

>>75543142
Very true. He has done pretty well. I still think he's an arrogant cunt, but so are all the best racing drivers, because you have to be. Schumacher, Alonso, Vettel, Hamilton - they're all arrogant cunts as well.

>>75542867
>engineering has ALWAYS been a part of the competition

Agree, but it shouldn't be ALL of the competition.

F1 has a history of having shit formula's that allow one team to dominate the shit out of the entire field due to having way more cash, and far better equipment, and that makes shit racing.

>>75544286
this.

in IndyCar, Penske is the top team, and has been for decades. they have the most funding, but they don't win every race because of money. the rules in IC prevent that. smaller, less rich teams have a good chance to win. it becomes more of a contest of drivers rather than a contest of which team has the most money to build the highest technology car. kind of like Super GT. in that series, fast cars are penalized via weight, so Nissan in their GT-Rs don't win every race. I think it's fair to say Americans like an underdog, and would prefer a more equal playing field so the competition is more based on driving skill than constructor funding and technology.

TL;DR I think IndyCar and Super GT are the most competitive and exciting racing series in the world today

>>75544701
>so Nissan in their GT-Rs don't win every race
kek

>>75543803
>his relatively unsuccessful NASCAR attempt

He did achieve 3 victories in his career, though, so for that he gets some respect. All road courses, though. 1 in Mexico in the Xfinity series, and 1 each at Sonoma and the Glenn in cup.

Funny how the road racers just can't seem to land a victory on an oval in a stock car. Marcos Ambrose couldn't even do it, and he drove stock "like" cars down under, and was the super V8 champ 2 years in a row before he came to cup.

>>75544811
just an example
depends on whether Honda Toyota or Nissan has the technological advantage in a given year

>>75544937
road course guys can adapt to ovals
oval guys can't adapt to road courses

look at Ed Carpenter

>>75545040
>oval guys can't adapt to road courses

And yet you've got dudes like Mario Andretti, and fat Tony Stewart that did well in both despite starting off on dirt tracks and ovals.

>>75545172
Mario did well at both

Tony was mostly an oval winner

>tfw the IndyCar race isn't until the weekend but you want it NOW

aahhhhhh

>>75545386
>Tony was mostly an oval winner
He won 7% of oval races he started in cup and 24% of road courses

>>75545386
>Tony was mostly an oval winner

True, but fat Tony did win the 97' Indy series championship, and he ran Xfinity races that year as well.

>>75545678
OK but what's his road course win percentage driving an IndyCar?

in NASCAR to win a road course you basically just have to have turned right in a race car in your life. that's why "road course ringers" were a thing.

>>75545725
the 1997 IRL championship was contested on OVALS

>>75545853
Undefined because he never ran any
Those road course ringers weren't actually winning races

>tfw NASCAR running Watkins Glen or Sonoma is "JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP": The Race

>>75543803
Ah I see, thanks.

>>75544006
Very true. But I think JPM could get in a good team if he wanted to. Nico fucking Hulkenberg, a middling F1 driver (he is considered quite talented, but still) managed to get into the best Porsche team and win Le Mans. So I'm sure JPM could wrangle such a seat if he wanted to.

>>75544286
>Agree, but it shouldn't be ALL of the competition.
But it isn't. As I say, even if you have a dominant car, there is still the competition between the two teammates, and there is still fierce competition between the other teams. The top 10 finishers in each race get points, and those points contribute to the constructor's championship, and that's very important to constructors, because their finishing place determines how much money they get for the next season. So the competition is always fierce.

>F1 has a history of having shit formula's that allow one team to dominate the shit out of the entire field
The recent Mercedes dominance has been VERY unusual - the last period of such dominance really was the McLarens of the 1980s.

Red Bull sort of dominated between 2010 and 2013, but not really, because they didn't win as many races per season as the recent Mercs - the contests for each championship were much closer, with the likes of Ferrari and McLaren.

>due to having way more cash
McLaren are currently one of the best funded teams on the grid, having essentially the same budget as Mercedes, yet they are nowhere, because Honda have a rubbish Japanese corporate culture, refusing to take help from the outside, while the other engine manufacturers hire from each other.

So it's not just budget - it's often about *innovation*.

Brawn GP had the 7th highest budget in 2009, only one third of McLaren (the highest that year), but they won the title.

Toyota had the largest budget in 2008, but they only came 5th.

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>>75545673

>>75546294
Just Fun my shit up*

>>75544701
>in IndyCar, Penske is the top team, and has been for decades. they have the most funding, but they don't win every race because of money.
You've literally just proved that IndyCar has the same budget/success relationship that you criticise F1 for.

>I think it's fair to say Americans like an underdog, and would prefer a more equal playing field so the competition is more based on driving skill than constructor funding and technology.
As I said to the other guy, Brawn GP won the title in 2009, but they only had the 7th highest budget. It was $163m, while McLaren's, the highest, was $484m.

And like I also said to him, Toyota had the highest F1 budget in 2008, at $446m, but they only came 5th in the constructor's championship.

And like I also said to him, McLaren essentially have the joint-top budget right now (McLaren, Mercedes, and Red Bull all had €465 - €469 for the 2016 season), yet they are last. LAST.

Innovation doesn't always require money, and underdogs DO win in Formula 1.

Famous underdogs would be the Brawn GP championship in 2009, as well as Sebastien Vettel's race win in a Toro Rosso (small team) in 2008. Not to mention that Mercedes were a rubbish team until only recently. Same with Red Bull, they were rubbish for ages, even with a high budget. It takes time to develop engineering talent, and a good team. And Ferrari always have one of the highest budgets, because they get a special dispensation just for being Ferrari (they're considered valuable to F1), but they've underperformed in the last few years.

Another underdog would be Williams doing pretty well in recent season, despite their budget being about a third of the top teams.

>>75547199
>€465 - €469
I meant millions, obviously.

>>75546655
very true
any team running LeMans would be stupid not to take Montoya, his record in various categories of racing speaks for itself. even if he doesn't win the "Triple Crown" of Monaco, Indy, LeMans; he will still go down in history as one of the all-time greats of motor sport.

>>75547199
no, I didn't. Penske, while great, is nowhere near as dominant in the IC series as Mercedes is right now in F1.

>>75545853
>that's why "road course ringers" were a thing.

And yet even the road courses are dominated by oval and dirt racers.

>>75547347
He is good.

>>75547473
Mercedes aren't dominant anymore. Ferrari are now leading the championship after the first three races this season, and they could very well win the season.

If you don't like the fact that F1 isn't a spec series then fine, go ahead, you'll never like it in that case, because it will never be a spec series.

To say that it doesn't have competition is false. Maybe Americans don't like having to understand the technological innovations of the different cars? Shame.

>>75546655
>there is still the competition between...

I just don't agree.

F1 races are essentially over after the qualification, and the stats clearly demonstrate that fact.

To each their own, dude.

>>75547199
also I like F1 too, it's just I'd rather watch old GPs from the late 80s and early 90s than current F1. the cars looked better back then, the engines sounded better back then. sure it was just as tech-oriented then, but at least we had Senna, Prost, and Mansell to watch back then.(Mansell, I might add, did very well when he came to CART, the precursor of modern IndyCar. also Emerson Fittipaldi and of course Mario and Michael Andretti)

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>>75546294
>mfw watching that Xfinity series race ran in the ran last season

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>>75547764
Clearly false - let's look at the last race? Oh yes, Bottas qualified on pole, and Vettel won the race.

Look at last season - and remember that this level of dominance by a single team has not been seen since the 1980s. Eight out of 21 races had different pole qualifiers to race winners. So even in an unusual period, where one team is unusually dominant, nearly half of the races had a different race winner to pole position winner.

>I just don't agree.
You mean, "I'm wrong".

>>75547825
I don't think the new engines are all that bad. I would prefer V12s, sure, but still.

>at least we had Senna, Prost, and Mansell to watch back then
What's been wrong with the battle between Hamilton and Rosberg? In my view it's been a great battle to watch, just like the battle between Vettel and Webber was great to watch from 2010 to 2013.

>(Mansell, I might add, did very well when he came to CART, the precursor of modern IndyCar. also Emerson Fittipaldi and of course Mario and Michael Andretti)
Indeed. And I think it would be good if there was more cross-fertilisation like that again.

>>75547697
F1 is a competition between constuctors and their ability to attract sponsors in order to throw money at building the car.

driver skill is secondary. true, the teams want good drivers for their multimillion Euros car, but if a good driver makes it into F1, but they are on a team with a back marker car, they have no chance. Mercedes or Ferrari or Red Bull will win every time, and what's more, even a team with a huge legacy like McLaren, with a great driver like Fernando Aloso, is lucky to even score a point in a race if they dont have a top car. that's bullshit.

I don't really follow racing beyond occasionally reading headlines on my phone news apps.

Is Sebastian Vettel not as good as he once was or is it mostly his team/car?

>>75547199
>IndyCar has the same budget/success relationship that you criticise F1 for.

Not even close.

Here's a simple comparison from last season.

F1 2016: Only 3 of 21 races were won by drivers starting from P3 or worse.
Indy 2016: 9 of 16 races were won by drivers starting from P3 or worse

F1 2016: Only 4 drivers achieved victories in 21 total races.
Indy 2016: 8 drivers achieved victories in 16 total races.

F1 2016: 13 of 21 total races were won from pole position
Indy 2016: Only 6 of 16 total races were won from pole position.

Indy is far more driver and team dependent than F1, which is why it's a more competitive and entertaining series, mo.

Hell, if Hamilton and Rosberg didn't wreck each other out in Spain last season, than Ricciardo would have been the only winner outside of Mercedes throughout the entire season.

>>75548405
take Hamilton out of the Mercedes and put him in the Haas and we'll see how well he does then.

the fact that a simple overtake is an earth-shattering, notable event in an F1 race should tell you that the car is driving the driver, not the other way around as it should be.

>>75548506
>Is Sebastian Vettel not as good as he once was

The mercs have been absolutely dominant the past 2 seasons, due in large part to cheating with a fuel additive they dumped in their engine oil that they can burn in the cylinders to give them an unfair power advantage. Teams caught on thanks to merc personnel swaps, and they called them on their bullshit this year.

Now all the sudden, the mercs aren't as fast as they were outside of qualification for some reason. I wonder what it could be...

>tfw Alexander Rossi went from back-up driver for a back marker team in F1 to Indy 500 winner and driver for one of the top 3 teams in IndyCar and has consistent shots at top 5 finishes and is doing better than the team owner's own son

#RossiPosse

>>75546655

Brawn is a special case because they inherited the car Honda was developing. BGP didnt spend a single cent developing that car and just mantained it while also making some very light upgrades.

shit thread

>>75535728
this

Is a car an athlete?

>>75548405
>nearly half of the races had a different race winner to pole position winner

well over half of those races where decided by the first corner or in the pits. You are grasping at straws, and your threshold for entertainment is extremely low

>>75548405
>Eight out of 21 races had different pole qualifiers to race winners.

Dude, that means over HALF of the races were won from pole...which means the competition is a joke.

And you're trying to defend that shit?

Don't you think you deserve better as a race fan?

>>75542298

Krut was testing F1 at Abu Dhabi in the off season as well in a private session. Unmarked car though so not sure it was the new Hass.

Liberty Media seem more open to drivers running other series (Especially in the US where they want to make way more ground) and most of the Drivers support Alonso doing Indy. Hamilton said he wants to run the Daytona 500 and while Toto Wolff was probably flipping his shit, he'd probably allow Hamilton to do it in the end cause they would be better off having a happy driver doing what he wanted in a controlled environment instead of being annoyed all year.

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>>75533661
>all those missing races
>f1

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>>75548502
>6 running with our Lucas Oil™ onboard!
>22 running with our Firestone™ onboard!
>34 running with our Verizon™ onboard!
>Here's the Chevrolet™ Camaro® pace car, go to chevy.com/camaro for more info on the 6th Generation Camaro®!
Your "argument" is laughably pathetic

>>75548689
>IndyCar is more entertaining
That must be why nobody watches it :D

>>75548750
Wow you realised that different teams have better cars because it isn't a spec series?

HOLY FUCK WE'VE GOT AN EINSTEIN OVER HERE!!!

>the fact that a simple overtake is an earth-shattering, notable event in an F1 race
Except that it isn't, but keep living in your yankee, cholesterol-filled fantasy land. Nobody else from around the world is, so somebody's got to!

>Formula 1 fans worldwide: 425 million
>IndyCar fans worldwide: 40 million

Oh dear oh dear oh dear.

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>>75552972
>BGP didnt spend a single cent developing that car
Apart from when they had to make the GIGANTIC changes needed to fit the Mercedes engine into the car, when it was designed for a completely different Honda engine, you utter moron

>>75555440
Says the guy watching a laughably pathetic series that nobody gives a shit about, nobody watches, it's filled with shameless advertising ("here's our Verizon on board! Here's the Chevy pace car! Here's out Lucas Oil on board!"), the cars are laughably shit, no big or important manufacturers take part in it because it's laughably pathetic

:D

>>75555524
>Don't you think you deserve better as a race fan?
Says the guy watching cars go around A FUCKING OVAL 200 TIMES

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>75557536
>something has more fans worldwide therefore it is better
By that logic you think soccer is the best sport too, eh?

>>75557645
>Says the guy watching cars go around A FUCKING OVAL 200 TIMES
I fail to understand how this is supposed to be worse than watching a car around a road circuit 90 times? Indy has more variety in track types than f1 and its supposed to be a negative?

>>75557645
>f1 isn't filled with shameless advertising
kek

>>75557958
I don't even like handegg that much but soccer is just as boring. My point is worldwide popularity is not what determines how entertaining a sport is

>>75557995
Well you've successfully demonstrated you don't know shit about sports or racing, congratulations

>>75557995
Indy does road courses AND ovals so yes there literally is more variety and drivers need to know how to drive more than one type of course

>>75558039
>He says as one of the top teams is literally named after an energy drink

>>75558062
>I don't have any arguments so I'll just spam HAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>75558103
Yes ovals are variety,and there is wide variety between ovals and that you don't know that just shows how uninformed you are about motorsport, and quite frankly your spergout is a bit embarrassing, where did IndyCar touch you?

>>75558152
>all of your complaints are superficial things which don't have any affect on the actual racing, which is higher quality than f1
And clearly you give a fuck because you're in here desperately trying to convince us that f1 is better. Americans like f1 too some of us just prefer our own series, but I forgot that nobody is allowed to like things you don't

>>75558164
>doesn't refute my point
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHQHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHGAGAG

>>75557645
>>75557958
>>75557995
>>75558039
>>75558062
>>75558103
>>75558152
>>75558164
Quite the 'tism fit there lad

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>>75558191
>ovals are higher quality than F1
>>75558199
>he thinks ovals are variety
>>75558221
>not an argument

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

i guess these threads will be /o/ tier from now on. good job autists and OP

I see /f1/ found this thread

Cup practice 1 in 30 bings

>>75558874
Indy 500 threads are going to be a thousand times worse than this. I want Alonso to do well because of the Triple Crown but I wouldn't mind the butthurt from the F1 fags if he fucks it up

Hey guys, does anyone have an acestream link for the argentina rally? or any stream, i wouldn´t really mind.

Thank you very much!

You should really turn the computer off for a while.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>75557536
>it isn't a spec series?

Yes it is, only they call their "spec" a "formula", and their formula leads to one sided racing.

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>wow, the thread got a lot of replies this week, let me check it out
>opens it up

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>>75561375
/F1/ is so paranoid that they're lashing out series that is basically clinging to life; IndyCar. The 500 is the only reason they are relevant aside from the fact that they're the only popular motorsport that still kills people.

Between the normies and F1 the 500 thread is going to be a shitshow.

Larson in the xfinity race is Lame

Things that retards do:
1. Respond to four people with one post
2. Only care about F1
9999. Appreciate and understand the different dynamics at play on an oval compared to a road course

CUP QUALIFYING:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpO1-YB4mRg

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Reminder not to respond to the black """British""" Hamilton fan. He'll get tired when you stop paying attention to his autistic posts.

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This one's better.

Kenseth/Blaney on the front row

>redneck outsmarts penalty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-1UIvNEfq8
So is NASCAR actually to smart for me?

>>75565345
>no knife in the bin
Shit pic.

>>75565474
drove it back to the pits with the stickers still on the tires

>>75565345
>Buckfast in the bin
Fuck up, cunt

Don't forget that Indycar qualifying and practice is also tonight.
2 hours of Practice soon, qualifying shortly after.
There will be a lot of work to do during that practice, that encompasses race and qualifying set up.
Catch it live at http://racecontrol.indycar.com/index-espn.html (I think)

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>All the based Stewart-Haas drivers starting in top 10
>Danica occupies her usual P20something spot

>>75565581
She's next to announce a retirement

>>75565560
Phoenix is too small for Indy, IMO.

They need at least a 2 miler to run well.

>>75565607
It was built for Indycars.
It's fine.
All a shorter track needs is to not have much banking.

>>75565607
what is the Milwaukee mile?
Indy has always been a short track oval series

>>75565643
That may be true, but the longer tracks give them better drafting opportunities, and that makes for better racing IMO.

Did Eddie Gossage make the Cowboys' first round pick last night?

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>>75565662
I think a simple aerodynamic philosophy change that's happening in 2018 will help.
Moving downforce from the top(which is draggy and creates more turbulence) to the undertray(which is very low drag and doesn't create as much turbulent air).

>>75565745
I agree, but the longer tracks give them more opportunities to take advantage of that, which leads to better racing.

>>75565662
>>75565779
Indy needs to return to Las Vegas Motor Speedway soon

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>>75565804
Nty
>>75565779
True, but short ovals have their place and Phoenix needs to be on the schedule always. The allure of short ovals is how quickly traffic builds up and they create passing opportunities when the leader fails to maneuver well.
Like to see some of the larger super speedways back, but Indycar just doesn't draw well there. Right now we only have 2 super speedways.

>>75537806
>CSU Rams

Go Rams, but sponsorship money could have been used on a better driver, baka.

INDY PRACTICE IS LIVE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id0S8Db6ZT8

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COMFY TAIKYU IS LIVE RIGHT NOW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEphI0oL92o

>>75567815
Group 2 qualifying?

>>75567815

According to the timetable

http://supertaikyu.com/sto/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/kousiki04191.pdf

This is the Group 2 qualifying session. Group 2 is made of the ST4 and ST5 classes, cars you'll see in these classes are things like the Civic Type R, Toyobarus, S2000,Toyota Vitz aka Yaris, Miats and the Honda Fit

Right after this is Japanese Formula 4 qualifying. I'm not sure they'll stream it but lets wait and see.

Group 2 race starts in 5 hours from this post

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In about 50 minutes(?) its Group 1 qualifying

Group 1 has stuff like GT3 cars, TCR cars, Porsche Cup, Lancer Evos, STis and 370Zs

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>>75568458

And yes thats an iRacing car

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Formula 4 qualifying starting now

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>>75567815

comfy levels absolutely off the charts right now

>Allen Bestwick laid off

Any thoughts that he might reunite with MRN?

>>75571487
Fuck m8.
Now we only have Scott and Eddie during ABC broadcasts?

>>75571677

I think they're being let go after Detroit

I guess this also confirms that ABC is done with the Indy 500.

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Group 1 out on track right now

>>75571677
They're fired too

>>75571487
>Allen Bestwick laid off
fuck no, not AB?
ESPN can suck a dick
I'm done using what's left of jayski

>ed carpenter

194 MPH on a one mile oval.
Holy Shit.

>>75574155
194.9

>>75573501
>>75571762
NBC/NBCSN confirmed?

>>75574183
probably

>>75574155
By comparison:
NASCAR pole speed was 137.321 mph

>>75574312
194.9 MPH with a car pushing around only 700 HP is pretty fucking good.

>>75574392
I think they detune the engines for short ovals as well compared to road and street courses, just not quite as much as they do for superspeedways which rests at 550 hp.

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Super Taikyu Group 2 race starting in a few minutes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0kJBWKO9-s

Love Drive Racing in the ST5 class is an all female Miata team. Dunno which ones though.

>>75574573
The Indy cars?

I thought they kept the engine specs and just changed aero packages.

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>>75575130
you thought wrong

>>75575053
The actual race starts in nearly an hour, baka

>>75575234

the fuck

well at least the stream is comfy

>>75575271
Learn to read the schedule

These interviews are silly

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dat helmet

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GRIL

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>>75575838

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speaking of grils, if you didnt think a series where a Honda Fit shares track with a Ferrari 488 GT3 isn't based enough

this milf here runs the show

>>75575883
Nice thinkpad

>to... ransmisshon trabble

jej

>>75575053
ACTUALLY STARTING NOW

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>this broadcast

>>75565474
>>75565515

Autism doesn't even have his regular crew chief this week as well because Childress made Slugger stay in Charlotte. Probably so he didn't try anything stupid and NASCAR suspends him for 'Dega (Which Dillon has a way stronger chance of winning) than Richmond

>>75565596

Going what she said in interviews and how desperate she is to win something to validate herself. She'll probably sign an extension 2018 cause SHR have no one they can replace her with yet and Cole Custer is way too green for a major cup race. Though really Smoke should be telling her "Get the fuck in the Xfinity 41 the weeks Harvick isn't running if you want a win that bad"

>>75578109
>cause SHR have no one they can replace her with yet

SHR is a competitive team capable of winning races, and championships, and any driver that's not on such a team would be more than willing to drive for them.

>>75578218

The problem is the 10 is obviously earmarked for Hass' driver developmental. No one really wants to jump in as Cole Custers seat warmer unless Harvick or Kurt are planning to retire soon as well to leave the 4 and 41 open (Which is really unlikely at the moment). Bowyer was an easy grab because Tony wanted a long term experienced driver for that seat and if he wanted someone younger and brought sponsors, he could have easily grabbed a young driver known for outperforming their equipment and who brings sponsors like Skinny Jeans Cassill or DiBurrito for the 14.

That's why replacing the 10 is a headache. A lot of drivers would love to drive for SHR and be in that equipment but being a seat warmer and then having to go back and find your own ride again after that season and Cole Custer takes your seat is what a lot of drivers would fear even if they ran well and made the playoffs. And a lot of driver swapping in the off season was drivers making sure they were in a chartered ride and guaranteed to be paid for it (Except BK racing cause their drivers do it for free)

It's a weird, kinda fucked up situation but it's mostly SHR's fault for not getting into developmental after every other team did once Gibbs started doing it as far down as ARCA and not having a driver ready.

ADAC GT Masters
https://www.adac-gt-masters.de/livestream-adac-gt-masters.html

CUP PRACTICE IS LIVE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WLKnLUmmKE

Pretty good banter right now between Gordon and DW, It's actually insightful.

Why can't they be like this during the race broadcast on Sundays?

>>75583004
NASCAR says no fun allowed during races

Indycar at Pheonix tonight gents.

Honda still not seeming to be very competitive on short ovals. The only Chevrolets below the Honda's were Foyt's team(which is self-explanatory) and Ed Carpenter, who basically did not qualify.

Tony Kanaan, the highest qualifying Honda was at a 2.5mph~ disadvantage.

>>75586521
>>75586521
>>75586521
>>75586521
Xfinity race thread

>>75586536
qualifying is one thing, but i'm still not convinced either dixon or kanaan can't take his honda to victory lane tonight, ganassi's strategy just needs to be on point

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thoughts?

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>>75541946
>the whole day is a meme
Watch this instead

>>75586536
chevy is superior on high downforce tracks

>>75587934
shits over before the 500

>>75587497
Not a chance this goes full race without a yellow. Kimball or Carpenter WILL do something boneheaded.

PWC live live live

http://world-challenge.com/streamvideo/

>>75583004
The Sunday audience is 1000 times stupider and Fox aims for the lowest common denominator.

>>75593240
>stupider

>>75593994
exactly

2 1/2 bings to mindycar

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPDiBQEH_Z8

>>75599951
I will make the race thread soon

>>75600305
cheers

IndyCar @ Phoenix race thread!

>>>75600686
>>>75600686
>>>75600686

qualifying is starting right NOW on NBCSN! GET IN HERE!!!

>>75600714
qualifying was yesterday bro...

>>75601144
well the broadcast of it is now

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Super Taikyu stream is up again, with the woman that runs the series as one of the hosts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aS8v-z4Dek

Today is the Group 1 race

>John Andretti has cancer

Shit, it feels like not long ago that he was still in Cup. His last full season was '09.

Do we talk about WRC here? Why does Evans look like an utter autist when he is driving?

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wew TC

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>IRL brakes

>>75601777
>>75603279
Oh right I was in the middle of asking if the ass for hire is there

>>75603417
i dont know but theres 3 qts on stream right now

This super taikyu music is so great

>>75601777
>this anime music
kek

second time all 4 Andretti Autosport cars DNF'ed this year!

Alonso must be nervous

Oh we moved thread.

>That grid girl squeaks

I can masturbate to this.

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Actual COMFY TAIKYU race stream here featuring ALEX SAN and some race queens standing there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS2KZuTkA-w

I guess they do a pre-race then a race stream

yellow fever is not an illness it is a completely logical decision

ST stream sound is all fucked up except the music

>>75606206

all i need just listen to this groovy tune god damn

>>75606179
The near 300 GB of JAV I have is a testament to that.

>>75606163
>all 4 DNF happens every other race
>2 races until Indy

finally a shot of the cars

so we're using this general as the Taikyu thread then?

grandstands almost as empty as the Phoenix stands lel

What's going on? Is this the parade lap?

>>75606371
Opening laps like F1 before the grid formation.

>>75606261
Fug no way alonso won't dnf

what is that siren noise

>>75606436
Cars entering pitlane siren to warn people in pitlane.

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>ywn be a japanese dad taking his family on a trip to watch a comfy race during golden week, telling your son stories about the Indy 500

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>>75606436
wahningu

car in the gravel trap
is that a Ferrari?

>Going off on what I think is the warm up

>ferrari doing some vision training

>japanese grid alignment

>>75606466
>Now son remember Franchetti is a disgrace who came down on glorious Sato.

I wish other series had comfy anime music like this

>indy 500
>alonso starting 12th
>chooses skim milk
>half the prerace show is dedicated to alonso
>announcers fellating alonso at every opportunity
>ladies swooning over alonso
>race starts
>turn 1
>lap 1
>aleshin spins out from 8th
>drunk on vodka
>collects alonso
>crashes into wall
>announcers screaming
>fans screaming
>debris flying
>alonso gets out of car
>looking pained
>he has broken both of his middle fingers but is otherwise fine
>honda needs replacement driver
>they call aleshin
>he accepts
>his plan worked

whats your reaction when this happens

>>75606561
I want more with a livestream of a cat plush in the bottom right hand corner.

>>75606561
It're really great, with the race queens it's like I've time traveled into Gran Turismo 2

>>75606591
Wonder what accident killed Jenson in Monaco.

Then celebrate the fact he won't be driving.

>>75606605
it reminds me of Gran Turismo music too lol

why is there no ambient noise from the microphone on the gridwalk it is freaking me out

are they filming on a cell phone

>>75606673
the data deteriorates since it has to go all the way across the pacific ocean

suddenly english

>Suddenly English

OH GOD WHAT

>>75606693
but the other cameras look fine

>>75606673
looks like either a phone or a stickcam, either way it is using some form of auto-stabiliser and it hurts me

頑張ります。

>can you wave your hand

kek

what regulations does ST use? what is the top class?

>>75606746
http://supertaikyu.com/asp/files/rank/2017.pdf

>>75606781
Sorry that one would probably be more useful

http://supertaikyu.com/asp/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/2017R2EntryList.pdf

>>75606798
>>75606746
Essentially
ST-X = GT3
ST-Z = GT4
ST-TCR = TCR
ST-1 = (3501cc and above)
ST-2 = (2001-3500cc, all-wheel drive)
ST-3 = (2001-3500cc, two-wheel drive)
ST-4 = (1501-2000cc)
ST-5 = (1500cc and Under)

Was that Hideki Mutoh?

GT-Rs Ferrari and Porsches vs Evos 86's and kei cars

>>75606842
I don't think so, he does commentary on Indycar for japanese TV. Shinji Nakano is driving a civic tho

Looks like they're beginning to clear the track

>Naoki Hattori
Fuck me, that's a name I haven't heard for a while.
Inb4 Shigeaki is there as well

slick hair guy is in the booth now

>>75606969
He has a nametag

>>75606979
hard to read it with the splitscreen

>>75606990
it said Alex

I think gentleman driver means polesitter

>ferrari jumps the start
>still loses 2 spots

unce unce unce

wish the production was better

>>75607103
What you want something better than a feed of security footage of the track and literally a webcam pointing at the timing screen?

Stop being so entitled.

>>75607103

all the coverage they had before was short 30 minute highlight shows

i think these are their first live broadcasts of any kind

>>75607140
kek

CCTV is kill

>>75607180
I was having a hard time reading the Japanese when it was split so this is better.
I still can't read Japanese though.

>>75607195
I just wish the cameras moved instead of stationary

>spider on the lense

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TWO BOMBS WERENT ENOUGH BURN IT DOWN

scoreboard kill

>>75607206
I wish they had some onboards

one camera just zoomed in on some debris on the track

OH FUCK THE CAMERAS CAN ZOOM

it's really hard to follow what's going on which is a shame because this seems like a cool little series

>>75607258
Yeah I'm knackered so I'm going to bed for a few hours.

That was a nice pass though on the main straight

>>75607270
yeah but how can you tell it was 2 cars in the same class battling or just a higher class car lapping a lower class car

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one down

>>75607413
curashu