This is the ideal NHL. Prove me wrong. Pro tip: you can't.

London ON is a fucking shithole that should be eradicated. Nice try faggot.

>no las vegas
cmon man give 'em a chance

>getting rid of the penguins

what a shitty attempt

>>75441747
>see flag
>expect an absolutely rancid shitpost
>it's based
god I want to disagree with you but I can't

>>75441747
Nova Scotia and Regina can't afford a team. Winnipeg is barely hanging on. Ontario can afford 2-3 more teams.

>>75441829
Fuck I actually forgot about them

>>75441862
Was originally thinking Hamilton but the Hamilton/Toronto/Buffalo density would be fucking ridiculous.

>>75441827
No. Idiot.

>>75441747
how did you come up with this, OP?

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>>75441747
>San Diego Gulls
>Thinking Regina and the Maritimes can sustain a frainchise
>The south aside from Dallas and Nashville still having teams
>No Hartford Whalers
>No Hamilton Tigers
>No Penguins

Quebec City
Montreal
Ottawa
Hamilton
Toronto
Calgary
Edmonton
Vancouver

Buffalo
New York
New York
New Jersey
Philadelphia
Boston
Pittsburgh
Washington

Columbus
Detroit
Chicago
St. Louis
Tampa Bay
Colorado
Minnesota
Winnipeg

Los Angeles
San Jose
Anaheim
Seattle
Dallas
Salt Lake City
Las Vegas
Portland

>>75441930
>>75441930
I mean... i agree that the northeast is congested and Canada wants more teams but why these cities?

Is there enough money in them to help salivate Bettmens palate?

>>75441960
San Diego's minor league team has impressive attendance, whereas Hartford's team does not.
Dallas and Nashville have really good attendance and Nashville just BTFO of a supposed "dynasty".
No Pens was a total mistake on my part.

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No pens. Thank you

>>75441747
Settle down, Gary, and stop making threads here. We already told you, get back to work denying All-Stars entry to the All-Star Game.

>>75441747
>Cleveland

You'd think enough people would get shot in Detroit, Chicago, Philly and St. Louis, but I guess those lucky few need to be polished off.

>>75441747
>no team in Salt Lake City
kys

Too much tiny Canadian cities.

NHL will stop being the 4th big sport in NA if your dumbass canacuck plan ever happens.

>>75442021
>>75441971
Salt Lake City can barely sustain their current minor league team.

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updated with Pens because I am a retard

>>75441862
>Winnipeg is barely hanging on
>has the 13th highest operating revenue at $11.4 million

>>75441747
> Teams in Regina and Halifax instead of Hartford or Salt Lake City
> Calls Quebec Nordiques the Quebec City Nordiques

Otherwise a solid map m8

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>>75441991
outstanding post
the 42 black guy and 24 are a joy to watch

we /valleyview/ now

>>75442270
Utah Grizzlies average attendance is only 50% capacity.
Hartford Wolfpack average attendance isn't even 30% capacity.

Regina Pats average attendance is 84% capacity.
Halifax Mooseheads average attendance is 65% capacity.

>Dallas still with a team

Only people I've ever met around here who were anything more than the most fairweather ultra bandwagoning Stars fans were northern transplants, especially Minnesotans, go figure. This goes for the entire metroplex as well, not just Dallas.

>>75442349
Dallas has a $21 million operating revenue.

>>75442358
We have money around here, no shit, why else would anyone move here?

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>>75441747
Carolina has infinity more Stanley Cups than Canada this century

You've been proven wrong

>>75441818
>he's a poorfag
embarrassing desu lad

>>75442396
Carolina had the worst attendance in the League this season and also has a -$15 million operating revenue.

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>>75442414
muh cups

seriously though I thought Raleigh had enough Yankee transplants to keep the attendance afloat....oh well

>>75442446
To be honest I was kind of surprised too at how poor the Canes' attendance was. I guess one championship isn't enough to stimulate a metropolitan area that can hardly break 10k for the Bulls.

>>75441747
Providence and The Sail are the best maymays since The Whale.

>>75442479
>Implying people give a shit about hockey in the south

>Nashville still there
look I know the Predditors are popular now because they beat the black cocks but that doesn't mean Nashville deserves ice hockey

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>>75442768
I actually went through and did some revisions, this is what I came up with.

>No Green Bay
>No Kansas City
>No Indianapolis

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>>75442768
Their normie memes prove that

>>75441747
Wrong, Hartford Whalers aren't on that map

>>75442851
This is the single dumbest post on this thread.

>>75443003
Explain the Hartford Wolfpack's dreadful attendance and then explain how a major league team there would be even remotely worth it.

>>75441747
Close.

1.Move Providence to Hartford.
2. San Diego is too small, Sun Belt, and non-white to support an NHL team
3. Regina cares about hockey, but is too small to support an NHL team
4. Ditto for Halifax probably.
5. Cleveland won't support an NHL team more than Columbus
6. Toronto should have two teams
7. Portland could probably make a team work
8. New York can support two teams (but not three)
9. Montreal could maybe have a second team

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>furpuck

>>75443059
I'm sorry but you're not even from the US much less Connecticut, and that being the case you don't understand the atmosphere here. In Connecticut the Whalers literally have legendary status, everyone knows of them even people who don't really like hockey, they would do very well in CT, especially because I'm sure people who go watch the Bridgeport soundtigers would see the whalers as well as fans who simply don't go to the Wolfpack games

>>75443059
>Explain the Hartford Wolfpack's dreadful attendance and then explain how a major league team there would be even remotely worth it.

It's minor league.

Hartford would rally around their only major league team as a matter of civic pride. Plus they would become everybody's second-favorite team due to their history, awesome logo, and Brass Bonanza.

The margins would be small, but Hartford would work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqyMuAzSSk8

>>75443126
*LET'S GO SHOPPING* *clap* *clap* *clap*

>>75443078
>Move Providence to Hartford
Providence's minor league team has far better attendance than Hartford's.
>San Diego too small to support an NHL team.
You're a fucking idiot. San Diego is California's second largest city and its minor league team's attendance is impressive.
>Cleveland won't support an NHL team more than Columbus.
Cleveland is a far more sports-dedicated city than Columbus and its minor league team has great attendance.
>Toronto should have two teams.
Give one to London first.
>Portland could probably make a team work.
Their minor's attendance suggests otherwise.
>New York can support two teams
Sure, but the Islanders have been struggling attendance-wise and would be better suited elsewhere. If New York wanted to do 2 teams, they'd both have to play in the city.
>Montreal could maybe have a second team
It definitely could, probably in Laval, but bring back the Nordiques first.

>>75442010
The edge, wew ladd.

>>75443129
>>75443126
>i-it would be different in the majors, i sw-swear!

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>>75441747
>not the Seattle Metropolitans

shiggy diggy doo

>>75441971
>Detroit

>back in a division with Minnesota, St Louis, Chicago and Columbus

I thought we were done with these faggots.

>>75443078
>San Diego too non-white
Vancouver is less white than San Diego

>>75443199
Literally would be tho, thats the issue with judging things purely off of statistics

>>75442843
Put Nashville back if anything, they have actually made a good attempt to bring it to the people. I have a friend here in college who is from there and apparently he heard about lots of celebrating and news from relatives back home. He doesn't watch hockey himself.

There is already enough California or Texas teams.

The Debbies had an establishment with three cups? What happened to them, is it their boring style of play? wew. How do you blow it that hard?

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>>75441747
>not the Halifax Whalers so they can continue to use the best sports logo in history

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>>75443288
Looks like a hotel or insurance company.

Still not bad, but the GOAT coming through.

>>75443217
That's a faggy name. Metropolitans literally means city dwellers.
Whoa how captivating!!!

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>>75443305
>>75443288

Wrong on both accounts kiddos.

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>>75443322
They were still the first American team to win the Stanley Cup.

there's history there. Plus, Canada literally has a team named after a fucking leaf.

>>75443284
Nashville isn't profitable.
Looking at Kansas City though, per >>75442851, there's some prospect there versus a San Antonio team, though there would be competition with the Blues.

>>75443284
>What happened to them?
They had shit attendance and lost a fuckton of money, that's what happened.

>>75443322
Take a look at Canadian hockey team names and then rethink your statement

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>>75443356
Seattle Totems would be way better

>>75443363
KC had some teams before. They god awful though and only played for a few years.

>KC scouts, now the Devils.

>>75442768
There are only two teams in the NHL in the southeast with profitable operations.
>Nashville
>Tampa Bay

>>75443395
>more like seattle tokems
>AYY LMAO

>>75443403
Except Nashville is not profitable.
https://www.forbes.com/nhl-valuations/list/

>>75443397
The Missouri Mavericks are playing at almost 100% attendance on average though, some potential for expansion.

>>75443394
>Canucks
National pride name scheme, fitting
>Flames
Fire, understanding, it's fierce and bold
>Oilers
Dominant regional industry
>Jets
Winnipeg is Air Force dominant region
>Leafs
National identity scheme, fitting
>Senators
Roman warriors, capital city
>Canadiens
National identify scheme, fitting

>Metropolitans
People that live in a city! lets also name our team after an existing division, that won't make things confusing!

>>75443269
Vancouver is also Canadian.

Non-whites in Canada are far more likely than non-whites in America to become hockey fans.

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>>75443395

Pilots and Steelheads are the only acceptable non-metropolitan names

maybe Thunderbirds, if the WHL team is ok with giving up the rights.

>>75443486
I'm fine with those

>>75443486
That's a pretty neat logo but why the fuck do all Seattle teams have to have the same colours.

>>75443277
Is that how it worked for the Thrashers?

>>75443516
City colour schemes are the only way to do it. Pittsburgh blows everyone else out of the water with black and yellow

As much as I would like an NHL team in San Diego, I don't know if I see it happening. A publicly funded arena would either be a really big success or a really big failure, but right now is the time for anybody to swoop in while the normies are noticing the absence of a team other than the Padres. But as good as Gulls attendance is, I feel like NHL attendance would be very low unless they kept current Gulls tier pricing. They would probably do poorly in the TV market too.

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>>75443288
>>75443305
>>75443341
the true goat

West
Los Angeles
Anaheim
San Jose
Seattle
Vancouver
Edmonton
Calgary
Colorado

Central
Kansas City
St. Louis
Dallas
Winnipeg
Minnesota
Nashville
Columbus
Chicago

East
Tampa Bay
Washington
Philadelphia
New Jersey
NYR
NYI
Boston

North
Quebec
Montreal
Ottawa
Toronto Maple Leafs
Toronto (2)
Buffalo
Detroit

>>75444162
fuck even I forgot Pittsburgh. add them to North

>>75442768
No the fact they can actually support their franchise does.

>>75441747
>Giving Rhode Island, NFL, and Saskatchewan teams
Absolutely shameful.

>London Knights
>not Laval Mobsters

>>75441747
>rags
>sharts

kek

>>75441747
>providence islanders
>not rhode islanders
missed the boat there, slick

>>75444970
Providence quahoggers

>>75441747
>not putting the Whalers back in Hartford
>giving shitty Providence a team
>San Diego anything
>thinking any team would fly to Nova Scotia
I'm surprised my flag isn't next to your post, desu

>>75443171
>Providence's minor league team has far better attendance than Hartford's.
But I would wager the providence fans would stay loyal to the Boston bruins whereas Hartford, New London/Groton, and New Haven would become whaler fans

>>75444299
A major league team in Laval is the dumbest idea possible.

>no alaskan team
hmmm

>no mexican team
Racist much?

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>removing the penguins
i like your style

>>75441747
Put Islanders in Buffalo and make them the Sabers and then its fine.

>>75447334
I could tell from the flag that your post would be retarded, and I was right.

>>75441747
>Having furpuck teams below the US-Canada border

>>75441747
You do know Cleveland is like 70% black right? Pretty much the Atlanta of the north.

>>75442315
The percentage attendance doesn't matter unless it's selling out constantly

No Panthers... but somehow the Maritimes can support a team....

>>75443171
>Cleveland is a far more sports-dedicated city
Cleveland Indians have literally no people going to their games despite being perennial contenders, Browns fans are self pitying tryhard retards patting each other on the back over how tough they have it and Cavs fans were literally 404 before LeBron.

Columbus has Ohio State football which musters a far larger fanbase than all Leaveland teams put together.

>>75450247
Detroit is more black than Cleveland and it supports a very successful team.

>>75450357
>percentage attendance doesn't matter
So you're telling me a team can somehow sustain itself on 30% attendance?

>>75450428
The Panthers are literally the least profitable team in the league.

>>75452868
See >>75450574

>>75441747
>not the minnesota north stars

Trash map

>>75452868
>Detroit is more black than Cleveland and it supports a very successful team.
This. Most fans of any team don't live strictly in the city. It is foolish to equate the smaller area as the entire fanbase, the Red Wings have the entirety of Michigan as there fanbase.

>>75454161
>their
fml

>>75454161
Detroit is well supported because it's a historically successful team while Columbus is historically shit. Give Detroit 5 to 10 years of no playoffs and all support would dry up.

>>75454238
Buffalo has never won a Cup and hasn't made the playoffs in 6 years, and they still have support.

>>75454392
Because Buffalo is majority white.

>>75454238
Wongs have too many supporters in Michigan and around the world to ever be irrelevant. Those cups in the 90s and 2000s last forever.

>>75441747

Lose all but 1 southern team, no one in the south gives a shit. Put in the Whalers. Then it will be ok.

>>75443059

Because Ct wants to be like Mass, so having a hockey team they can rally around and fight the Bruins with would give people from Ct something to be happy about.

Jews running Hartford would never allow it though.

Rename providence to Whalers pls.