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/cfb/ general - KILLIN' TIME IN THE OFFSEASON edition

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Objects in rearview are closer than they appear.
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>>75398366
First for Arkansas State, 2017 Fun Belt Champs!
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OFFSEASON STILL

Things banned In This Thread
-Liberals
-Anime
-Faggotry
-Debbie
-People who don't use turn signals
-People who unironically think Disneyland is better than Disney World
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Third for
>Irish
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>>75398850
UPDATED ban list:

>Conservatives
>Anything Japanese at all
>Faggotry
>Debbie and Debbie's boyfriend
>People who don't use turn signals
>People who unironically think Disneyland is better than Disney World
>People who unironically think Terminator is better than Terminator 2
>rapists
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You now realize Mizzou will win the SEC east and be a dark horse national title contender
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>>75399181
no i don't
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>>75398850
Thanks, Chicago. Gotta keep the gates.
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>>75399167
>Banning conservatives from a college football thread
Good luck with that, commie.
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>>75398366
Post schedule predictions
WMU: W
Stanford: W
Texas: W
@Cal: W
@WSU: L
OSU: W
Utah: W
@ND: W
@ASU: W
Arizona: W
@Colorado: W
(You)CLGay: W
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8 team playoff or none at all
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>>75399587
The way I see it, that would keep only SEC fans out, and nothing of value would be lost.
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>>75399653
>two teams from the same conference who already played each other during the regular season

No thank you.
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>>75399690
>when they happen to be the two best teams in the nation
yes, that is exactly the point of a championship game.

thanks for playing try again next time
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>>75399167
do you really have to specify between conservatives and faggotry?
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>>75399713
>regular-season rematch
No. 12-game seasons are already tight enough, we don't need a rematch "just to be sure." Team A beat Team B, that's the end of it. Play someone new in the post-season, that's why we buy tickets.

>>75399732
You wouldn't think so, but here we are.
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>>75399798
By that logic teams, if teams happened to meet in the regular season during OOC play and both made the playoffs, but were in opposite games in the national semis, they'd just call off the national championship game if they both happened to win. That's super dumb and makes you sound like you really don't get what playoffs are even for anyways.
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>banning conservatives
Back to /r/cfb for you...
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>>75399798
>Implying a rematch wouldn't up the tension and excitement
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>>75398565
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>>75399690
That happens in literally every other sport's playoffs and championship all the time.
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>>75399732
>>75399798
liberals please go
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>>75399612
Rate my delusion lads.
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>>75400873
The reason I think we can beat Wake Forest is
>1. The game in in Boone
>2. We'll have already played our hardest game (Georgia)
>3. Wake has back-to-back games with Florida State and Clemson after us, so it's a trap game.
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Hey guys what do you call people who couldn't get into Texas?

AGGIES LOLOLOL!!!!
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>Big XII takes Houston and BYU

>AAC takes Army, Southern Miss and Louisiana Tech

>Enter the Superconference
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>>75401008
Taking Houston would be smart
Taking BYU would be dumb

Big 12 is capable of only one.
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>>75400713
t. Buttmad Troy State Community College (((fan)))
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>>75400873

Wake Forest and Georgia State are shaky Ws, but I like it.

TBHQWYF though, that's a VERY easy schedule. They should get no less than 10 wins.
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>>75401716

>Georgia State

*Georgia Southern
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>>75400873
I can totally see it except I think you're on major upset alert at Idaho. Wouldn't mind seeing App State become the meme team of the year though, you guys are destined for some more meme magic now that it's been so long since the Michigan win.
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>>75399167
Hang yourself libshit
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UNLV will be a power 5 school in 10 years
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>>75399612
>Stanford: W

LOL! You're our bitch now faget
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>>75399612
Rice: Win
@ University of Spoiled Children: Win
@ San Diego St.: Win
University of California, Los Angeles: Win
Arizona St.: Win
@Utah: Loss
Oregon Cucks: Win
@ Oregon St.: Win
@ Washington St.: Win
Washington: Loss
University of California, Berkeley: Win
Notre Dame: Loss
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Go K-State.
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>>75402447

Hue.

I wonder, does the AAC, as an entire conference, have greater viewership than the Big 12?

What if you removed Texas from the Big XII in the comparison?
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>>75402579
If you removed Texas from the Big XiI the conference would fold within 6 months.
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>>75402547
haha Stanford beat you easily last year faget. You also don't own the letter "K," faget.
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>>75402598

I just meant statistically.
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>>75402603
Yeah, but did you beat Washington? Who we won the natty against last year...
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>>75399690
you do know they can shuffle the seeds so that doesn't happen until the finals right?
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>>75402579
Texas has more people but the AAC has more diversity in terms of geographical location and alumni. Though if you looked at just, say, 2015 and 2016 only, if AAC came out on top that would not surprise me.

>>75402598
I want to argue that point but 22 years ago they took SMU only out of the SWC and the entire conference folded immediately, so never underestimate how fucking stupid Texans be.
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>>75402870
Who fucking cares, they already played each other.
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>>75401008
but who will Missouri valley get?
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>>75401008

>AAC takes Army, Southern Miss and Louisiana Tech

Why not WKU and Marshall?
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>>75399167
Just kill yourself, liberal faggot
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>>75402199
Yeah, this is the easiest conference slate App has had since moving up. Of course, any schedule that doesn't have Troy or Ark St in it will be pretty easy in the Sun Belt. Georgia Southern was too inconsistent last season - they lost their commitment to the Triple-Option.
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>>75403713
Army wants in, and their rivalry with Navy could make it happen.

Southern Miss deserves to be in the AAC.

Louisiana Tech comes along with purchase of Southern Miss.

>Why not WKU and Marshall
Because Southern Miss and La Tech have better schools and athletic programs.
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>>75403965

I don't know about academics, but WKU has had some real football success for a long time. At least since the Jack Harbaugh era.

Also I like the idea of the AAC being the "directional U" conference.
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>tfw your school discontinues baseball, men's soccer, men's track and field, men's swimming and diving and women's rowing
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>>75404016
Your school is fucking pathetic. Are they even good at one fucking sport?
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>>75404016
these are waste sports in college. baseball is kinda big in college sports but everything else is a waste.
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>>75404000
>WKU has had some real football success for a long time

If you count FCS, sure. But I can think of multiple Sun Belt teams with way more FCS success than WKU ever had.

So if we're going just by FBS success, Southern Miss and Louisiana Tech have decades of success before WKU even transitioned up.
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>>75404039
won the conference in basketball two of the past three years
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>>75403713
The AAC doesn't want to expand, because they are pussies. So get that idea out of your head.
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>Miami Beach Bowl will move to Frisco, TX
Are they ever gonna do something with that Poinsettia Bowl slot?
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>>75404786

In the hypothetical, the AAC lost UH and needed more teams.

Right now the AAC is trying to brand themselves as "Power 6" conference, which will never happen. You can't meme yourself into the P5.

The AAC needs to commit to the image as the premier G5 team, full of potential "BCS busters" as we used to call them.
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>>75406392
>>75404786
>>75404081
>>75403965

I can't decide if I'm actually on board the hype train for Army joining the AAC.

Their stint in C-USA was an unmitigated disaster.

Army barely qualified for a bowl last year after scheduling TWO FCS teams.
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>>75406431

>scheduling TWO FCS teams.

Wait, that was 2015, my mistake. But they did even WORSE that year.

I do NOT think Army football is on the rise.

Beating Navy was a lucky fluke after all of Navy's power players got injured in the conference championship game vs Temple.
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>>75406431
AAC could be P6 if half the teams that were good last season didn't collapse mid season or will be bad this year
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>>75406696

All of that stems from limited top tier talent being recruited (thanks to not being P5 schools) paired with a VERY active coaching carousel.

Stability is hard to come by in the G5, and the lack of it shows up in big matchups.

Temple, USF, and Houston had GREAT seasons but collapsed at the end due to coaching turn over.

Schools like Tulane, SMU, ECU, and Memphis are all combating rebuilds every time they have a spark of success after their coaches get poached.
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>>75406392
>You can't meme yourself into the P5.

What is the ACC, Alex
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>>75407681

The ACC pulled itself up by the boot straps and put together some great programs to shake the "basketball conference" image, while also cannibalizing all the football talent in the old Big East.

I'd say it worked out great. FSU, Miami, UNC, Clemson, VA Tech, Louisville and MANY other schools more than make up for the weak bottom of the ACC.

And even the bottomest of the ACC's bottom, Wake Forest, had a nice showing last season.

caveat: I'm not really an ACC fan, but I can appreciate the hard work put into changing their image
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Rice Owls!
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>>75404039
they're decent at basketball
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>>75406206
It also gained a Sun Belt/AAC tie-in.

Previously, the Miami Beach Bowl had no Fun Belt affiliation
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>>75398366
Akron will win the National title
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>>75409961

of ping pong
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>>75409961
Akron isn't even even a top 5 team in the State of Ohio
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>you have no Alma Mater
>your dad has no interest in CFB and your extended family are all into the NFL and pro sports but not college sports
>the school that was closest to you growing up is FCS and they're a really smart school that you aren't smart enough to go to or support in sports
>you come from an area where everyone only likes the pro teams and doesn't care about college
>you feel like a band wagoner for picking one of the big traditional teams that has weak connections with the region

Why did I pick this and divegrass as my favorite sports lads? I must be a secret masochist.
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>>75407812
If Miami and Virginia Tech can get back on track, the ACC will unironically be a top football conference
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>>75410054
cause youre fag
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>>75410054
Move to Boise, Idaho and go to BSU.

It's easy to get in, and they have an elite football team. You'll instantly be at the center of the CFB conversation.
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>>75402436
Just because Sin City gets 2 pro teams and UNLVfags start thinking they're hot shit
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Just stopped by for a quick shitpost lads
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>>75411250
USF is FSU for people who can't spell
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buuuump
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USF-Tulsa game moved to a Thursday night matchup.

Looks like ESPN is keen to cash in on two rising programs in the AAC.

http://www.thedailystampede.com/2017/4/21/15386628/usf-tulsa-football-moved-thursday-november-16-espn-aac-charlie-strong-phillip-montgomery-aresco
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Potential G5 Access Bowl candidates?

http://thecomeback.com/ncaa/early-dark-horse-candidates-group-five-access-bowl-bid-college-football-playoff.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium

>USF not mentioned
I thought that was odd.
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>>75412765
Based Tulsa.

Top-tier academics. Great football.

All from the smallest school in FBS.
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>>75412765
>>75412784

They included Toledo in their list?

No MAC baby is allowed into the G5 access bowl again. WMU fucked up the recipe.
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>>75412765
>>75412810
kek why the fuck is Toledo on there?

especially when the team that beat them in the camellia bowl (app st) isn't on the short list.
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>>75412765
>sleeping on Navy

>again

not even once. if they'd stayed healthy they'd be the defending Cotton Bowl champs
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>>75407812
Teams in the ACC currently having a good run: Clemson, FSU

Teams in the ACC that have pretty good records despite playing nobody: UNC, Duke (!), Louisville

Teams in the ACC that bolster the numbers in the conference whilst simultaneously playing shit football: BC, GT, Miami, NCSt, ND, Pitt, Syracuse, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Wake Forest

Nice "football conference."
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>>75411146

https://www.google.com/amp/www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/ct-las-vegas-major-league-baseball-20170420-story,amp.html

How long until there is a third? Imagine the shitstorm when the A's become the LV's. We might have to change the name this time, however.
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Morning bump
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>>75412883
post lessons you learned on /cfb/
>NEVER sleep on Kiomoulotoui & Navy
>NEVER doubt Dantonio
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These things are work in the offseason.

How's your draft board going, collossal faggots?
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>>75413314
an all-time great MLB rivalry would be Vegas/Salt Lake, but alas it was not to be.
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>>75399587
What part of "college" football donn't you understand, college football stands are filled with liberals, whether their in Alabama or Michigan or Oklahoma or California
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>>75399653
8 team playoff is probably the worst idea there is
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>>75401457
>taking a historically mediocre football school in Texas, a market that the Big 12 has already saturated is smart but taking a proven football school in an untapped market is dumb
hurr durr
>taking BYU, a perinnial powerhouse
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>>75412784
Based indeed
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>tfw the spring game is on
>tfw i couldn't go to the spring game or any other alumni events this year
>tfw notre dame is gonna bootyblast my team this september
>tfw i haven't done anything meaningful with my life since graduation
When will the suffering end?
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>>75421861
No, that would be the BCS
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>>75423032
Spring games are shit anyway, I love my team, but I only use it as an excuse to tailgate again and then go home before the game starts
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Helping my sister move in Nashville. Can anyone let me know how the A-Day game is going? No memes please I just wanna know who looks good and who doesn't.

>leave Tuscaloosa this morning where it's a heat index of 97
>arrive in Nashville four hours later where it's storming at 55 degrees
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>>75424674
Starting qb blew his knee out sorry kid
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>>75424766
W-which one do you mean though
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The two schools I support are Washington State and the University of Texas, what're the odds that they finish with identical records?
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>>75426193
Why do you support two schools?
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>>75426193
Liberals are banned in these threads, anon
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>>75413257
>Miami, Pitt, Tech
>shit football
Try again
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>>75413257
>

>>75423032
Notre Dame will be a tire fire again this year lad, and maybe Kelley will finally be fired

>>75426911
not him but Wazzu is like the antithesis to libbies, Seattle and the faggot dog-posters hate the Cougs

Austin, TX is fucked though
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>>75427139
>live in Mississippi
>I've never met a liberal

Feels good. Hail state too
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>>75426651
I went to WSU for my UG and Texas for my master's.

>>75426911
I wouldn't really describe myself as a liberal, I almost went to A&M but ultimately decided that UT's program was better.
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>>75427799
>I almost went to A&M but ultimately decided that UT's program was better

You made the right choice unless you're an engineer
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>ECU spring game was today

Ended in a 17-17 tie. Interesting.

Some of the interviewed players weren't happy at all with the performance.
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Watching the PooCF Spring Game. Ready to see them lose every game again.
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>>75428686

...USF fan?
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:( no Illinois state spring game wasn't aired
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Post similar heresy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lW4WN2mniw
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>>75432550
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDhm02_8xxU#t=04m53s

4:53
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>poocf
literally cant stop laffing lads
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>>75428686
Wouldn't be surprised if they win the conference

They had the best recruiting class out of G5 and had a young team last year
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>>75436158
lmao
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LOL BITCH THE FUCK
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>>75439913
>Florida schools are this insecure

>Literally incapable of handling even shitty bantz
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bumping with playoff formats
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To add higher interest for non-playoff bowls:

conference vs conference matchups
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>>75442209
this is how you would build rivalries between G5 conferences.
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>>75442228
>anyone ahead of the ELITE south florida
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>>75442146
>hosted at bowl games

I just want 8 teams with at least the first round games on campus of the higher ranked team.

Shit would be awesome. Asking fans to go to 3 (or in your case 4) different locations all over the country is retarded.
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>>75442209
>>75442228
>Separate but equal

NNNNNNNnnnnooooooope.
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>Objects in rearview are close than they appear.
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>>75442969
How is it different than it is now?

The only thing changed is that G5 Bowl matchups are organized into specific conference vs conference matchups.
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>>75442969
Oh yeah because the current system is SOOOO equal.

The best G5 could still get their NY6 shot. That idea is just for all the other 30+ G5 schools that DONT make that bowl.
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>Top 2018 Oklahoma QB commited to Texas
>Their 2018 QB commit just flipped to Texas
THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA UNIVERSITY
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>>75440715
You misunderstand me anon, I'm laughing at the fact UCF thinks they are a better program
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>>75443636
>how is that different than what there is now

Are you fucking serious? The different is G5 teams get to play P5 teams. As a P5 you should be grateful, since so many P5's are overrated and would fold immediately if they had to play another P5. As a G5 it's a reward, you get to play a high-profile team on national TV, instead of being relegated to streaming like a 2nd-class citizen.

They're all FBS, they're all gonna play each other.
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>>75442146
16 won't work. its too many for travel to. The most it should be is 8
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>>75453482

This. 8 is the perfect number.

The 5 conference champs from the P5, the highest ranked G5 team, and 2 at large bids.

That prevents the G5 champ from playing the #1 seed every time.

It also keeps teams on "the bubble" playing hard and competing at 100% to earn an at large bid.

Without that, teams like Tennessee and Louisville just stop playing hard when their CFP hopes are dashed.

The first and second rounds can be bowl tie-ins, and keep the current CFP format for the championship game.
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>>75453924

>Without that, teams like Tennessee and Louisville just stop playing hard when their CFP hopes are dashed.

*as happened in the 2016 season
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Things schools pretend realignment is based on
>geographic distance
>similar elite academics

What realignment is actually based on
>size of TV market
>quality of recruiting area
>athletic budget

For this reason I predict Old Dominion and UNC Charlotte are poised to move up in the near future. Southern Mississippi will never be able to increase its TV market so it will never move up.

Just my opinion.
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>>75451919
>As a G5 it's a reward
As a G5 fan, it really isn't a reward.

The only G5 that was able to play a ranked P5 last bowl season was WMU.

In every other P5/G5 matchup, it was a G5 vs a shitty P5.

How is that equality when our best teams are """"rewarded"""" by playing their worst on national TV?

That just highlights the inequality.
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>>75454070

>Old Dominion

...will never take TV market away from VA Tech except in its immediate local market.

>Charlotte

No one cares about Charlotte; not even people in Charlotte. There's too many more elite programs. App State is less than 100 miles away and far better/already more popular--to say nothing of Wake Forest, Duke, UNC, and NCSU. The market is completely saturated.
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>>75454369

Bowl season for G5 is always a lot tougher than it is for P5 anyway. Usually the coaching carousel is at peak RPM, and the most successful programs (read: bowl programs) lose their coaches and take a dip in performance. See:

>Houston
>Temple
>even USF struggled more than they should have

As for WMU? They really didn't deserve the hype. They had an easy schedule in the WORST conference bar none.
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>>75454403
Maybe you're right but Hampton roads and Charlotte remain two of the biggest markets without bigtime cfb. That's what draws the eyes of executives more than anything.

It's not necessarily true that the hometown team is the primary draw for viewers. Power opponents are more likely to travel to big cities for the exposure and chance to do recruiting. That's why teams like Marshall never get quality opponents to come visit West Virginia.
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>>75454574

Charlotte also has the panthers, don't forget that. Football is just too saturated there at every level. NC already has 2 teams that are G5 blue bloods (ECU and App State).

Also, I just don't think that the.... uh... demographics of Charlotte are compatible with college football.
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>>75454369
this.

Last season there were only 5 bowls that were G5 vs P5. All of them featured G5 teams with better records, sometimes MUCH better records.

>Cotton Bowl (The only one remotely resembling "equality")
WMU (13-0) vs Wisconsin (10-3)

>Birmingham Bowl
USF (10-2) vs South Carolina (6-6)

>Military Bowl
Temple (10-3) vs Wake Forest (6-6)

>Cactus Bowl
Boise State (10-2) vs Baylor (6-6)

>St Petersburg Bowl
Miami Ohio (6-6) vs Mississippi St (5-7)

I'd rather my G5 team play another good G5, rather than a shitty P5 that doesn't give a shit about the bowl game (to the point that their players refuse to play bc muh draft)
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>>75454640
Those demographics produce good recruits though. I saw ESPN was trying to push ODU hosting VT to a Friday night this year and VT complained because they want to do recruiting visits in the area on Friday. Something I didn't think about before.

Idk maybe I'm just basing my predictions on what I think executives will do and not what is actually the smart thing to do. Executives can be pretty dumb.
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>>75454070
>size of TV market

Have you read ANYTHING at all about the current state of mid-major conferences?

TV money just isn't what they thought it would be. Also: attendance is down. WAY down. All over G5.

Regionalizing conferences will save SO MUCH on travel costs. And it'll increase attendance for games.

It's the difference between the Sun Belt chartering jets for football, basketball, soccer, volleyball game in New Mexico, vs just taking a bus to Coastal Carolina.

That's a huge driving force (excuse the pun) for G5 schools.
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>>75454736

Well, there's a reason that even the NFL stayed out of huge markets (until recently) in LA and Las Vegas. They didn't see any potential in them.

Maybe if the NFL teams that JUST moved to those markets prove that interest can be drummed up from almost nothing, the sentiment will filter down to cfb. But for now, popular wisdom and experience shows that not EVERY market is primed for a football fan base.
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>>75454070
>quality of recruiting area

Is only important if the market isn't already saturated, like >>75454403 said.
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>>75454855
>not EVERY market is primed for a football fan base

Clearly. Under that logic, New York City would be home to the best College Football teams because they're the biggest.
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>>75454826

Also this.

The "TV market" theory got pushed to its breaking point.

C-USA completely debased its own football product with a bunch of "literally who?" schools hoping that the cities they were in would pay off. It completely backfired.

FIU/FAU will NEVER take fanbase away from UM, or even Florida, in Miami.

We're living in a new era where conferences are finally realizing that on-field performance trumps TV dollars again. Fans will travel to close away games to see a good matchup. That's where the future of revenue in the G5 is going, as TV deals dry up.

ESPN has already realized that it overpaid for the TV deals with the P5. They're hemorrhaging money as it is.
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>>75454826
Well my idea is that no one in Charlotte wants to see UNCC host North Texas but people there will tune in to watch UNCC host nationally ranked Navy or ECU.

Whereas even if WKU or So. Miss. is putting a great team on the field, a very limited number of people will watch them regardless of who they play because their market is tiny.

Therefore I think that teams in big markets have the best chance to move up rather than actually good teams.
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>>75454955

>Whereas even if WKU or So. Miss. is putting a great team on the field, a very limited number of people will watch them regardless of who they play because their market is tiny.

But if the conferences regionalized again, Arky State fans might make the trip to see the game if both programs are doing well.

The same for App State vs Charlotte, or UAB and Troy.

Those games will never get the TV viewership to compete, but they JUST might fill up the stadiums being so close.
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>>75454955
Maybe someday. But right now, nobody would tune in to watch Charlotte play North Texas OR Navy, as both would be bad football games.

Charlotte needs to focus on getting gud in CUSA before they turn their eyes to the AAC.
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>>75455109

As an ECU fan, I'd drive to Charlotte to watch an away game.

Hell, I'm DEFINITELY driving to Boone for the App State game.

But would a casual fan tune to that game on TV when they could watch, for example, Ole Miss play Alabama instead? No way.
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>>75455109
I see what you mean. I am basing my prediction on people not watching to see a good game but more of the good teams having a bigger and more geographically spread out fanbase that will watch every game regardless of who they are playing. Therefore if they play in a big market it will automatically attract more viewers than if they play in a small market even if the game is bad.

Maybe I'm wrong.

I would most like to see ODU play Navy in Norfolk. The whole stadium would be filled with USNA alumni.
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>>75455402

>ODU play Navy in Norfolk

That's a perfect example of a regionalized G5 game that would make a lot of sense.

If BYU went to ODU to play, no matter HOW good the team is, no one from outside of Hampton Roads is going to be in the stadium.
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So how do we re-align C-USA and the SBC, /cfb/?

>http://espn1420.com/is-it-time-for-the-sun-belt-and-cusa-to-realign-from-the-birds-nest/

There's going to be a lot of salty schools in C-USA that paid a lot of money to move """up""" to C-USA. How do you convince them? Sweetheart TV revenue deals until they recoup the money?
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>>75455743

Thankfully, the AAC is able to side step the issue (for now) thanks to the larger fan bases and huge war chest from the old Big East schools defecting to other conferences.

But even that is going to run out one day; the conference as a whole is running in the red.

Personally, I think AAC teams might finally open the Pandora's box of field/jersey advertising in order to (at least partially) keep up with P5 leagues. There's no other way.

Convincing prestigious programs like Navy to debase their fields with advertising is going to be a hard sell though.
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>>75455743
We don't.

We wait until Liberty and JMU are full FBS members then we promote GMU, Radford and Richmond and form the Virginia only conference.
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>>75455854

Losing prestige G5 programs like WKU, Marshall, Southern Miss, and even LA Tech will seriously degrade the level of competition, and recruiting options, though. Ticket sales might improve, but that's putting too many eggs in one basket (conference) and hoping it works out.
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>>75455846
AAC needs to stop pretending they are special and join G5 realignment. Upvote if you agree.
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>>75455988
It's a shame that rivalry and tradition are basically nothing more than TV marketing words at this point. I think it would be cool to have a bunch of schools very close to each other like how it used to be like in the Ivy League or the ACC with North Carolina.

But no. We are forced to care about schools in Texas that I have never heard of.
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>>75456451

Downvote.

The AAC's entire raison d'etre is to collect the best G5 programs. If anything, it should expand into 16 teams and take in all the other G5 blue bloods who can afford a non-regional conference slate.

The AAC is a reflection of G5 darwinism, and many if not all of its programs are still upwardly mobile.

For example: there's no need for USF to go slumming in Miami against FIU or FAU; it doesn't do anything to elevate either program. USF takes a hit to its strength of schedule, and FIU or FAU take a HARD loss in front of a larger than usual crowd.
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>>75456784
So you are a nonbeliever in the Butch Davis and Lane Kiffin memes. They should at a minimum improve recruiting and both schools are in a pretty talented recruiting area.
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>>75456784
>>75456451

I'm waiting for an AAC team with a strong OOC schedule to run the table and make a legitimate bid for the cfp.

THAT would be the shakeup that CFB needs. Houston had the opportunity last year with OU and Louisville on the slate, but weren't quite up to the task.

Sooner or later though, it's going to happen. It MIGHT be USF this fall, but their OOC slate is weak.

But if ECU (the strongest AAC schedule by far in 2017), for example, ran the table with wins over VA Tech, West Virginia, BYU, and even JMU, in addition to some stout AAC teams, it would have quite an argument.
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>>75456784
>the AAC's reason to exist is just to college G5's

That does seem to be the result, but that's not their reason for existing and you're kind of stupid for thinking that.

The Big East was a BCS conference and with it dead, the AAC is just trying to pick up the slack with whatever spare parts they can. If they wanted to have ALL the best G5, they'd have more than 12 schools (they don't), they'd kick out some of the shitty one's they've got (they haven't).

Really they're just trying to coast, and they are consistently mid-tier, better than the MAC, CUSA, Sun Belt (and on par with the MW), but will never be as good as the P5's because they just don't have the revenue to do it.
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>>75457138
I feel like UCONN got seriously screwed more than anyone else by realignment and will never be have elite athletics ever again.
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>>75457138

The AAC's birth was the result of a demotion from an AQI conference. It was immediately the collection point for the most successful mid-major teams at the moment of its inception.

>If they wanted to have ALL the best G5, they'd have more than 12 schools (they don't), they'd kick out some of the shitty one's they've got (they haven't).

That all stems from the shakiness of Conference re-alignment, especially with the Big XII farce last summer.

Once the waters calm, I wager that the AAC will grow if some of the older G5 programs improve again (looking at you: Marshall, Southern Miss).

Right now they are stuck in P5 purgatory with the stupid "P6" advertising meme. Once Aresco finally comes around that he isn't running the Big East anymore, there should be some movement.
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What do you guys figure the odds are that the Big 12 expands to include Cincinnati and Tulane? I mean Cincinnati is a no-brainer but I'm surprised they didn't go get Tulane to get back to twelve since Tulane's in a big market and the state of Louisiana only has one power five team.
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>>75457138
>>75457430

Also, once some of the AAC's rivalries mature, it'll gel as the premier G5 conference.

UCF and USF even made a trophy, and that rivalry has real promise.

>http://www.floridatoday.com/story/sports/2016/11/24/war-adds-rivalry-trophy/94391956/
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>>75457548

Tulane football is crap. They were added to the AAC at a desperate hour when old TV-revenue thinking was still dominating conference plans.

Tulane will NEVER steal LSU fans away, no matter how successful or what conference they're in. They have good academics, that's why conferences want them.

Consider Duke vs UNC. Even at its peak in the past few years under Cutcliff, Duke never had a real football fanbase.
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>>75457430
What you said here is what I was trying to say earlier about how the AAC needs to join G5 realignment. The AAC should expand and in doing so would cause CUSA and the Sun Belt to fix themselves.

I'm just of the opinion that Marshal and Southern Miss will never get picked up by any conference better than CUSA because they don't offer any recruiting advantage and their athletics budgets are tiny.

ODU and UNCC are increasing enrollment, offer local access to deep recruiting pools and ODU already spends almost double the average athletics budget of the rest of CUSA.
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>>75457680
Tulane and UL Lafayette need to be in CUSA. It is so stupid it should be a crime that in a state as poor as Louisiana they have 3 football teams in 3 different conferences requiring travel from New England to El Paso. What a misuse of taxpayer money.
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>>75457913

>What you said here is what I was trying to say earlier about how the AAC needs to join G5 realignment. The AAC should expand and in doing so would cause CUSA and the Sun Belt to fix themselves.

Ah, I thought you were suggesting that the AAC should combine with C-USA and SBC. That wouldn't help anyone.

Expansion for the AAC should be centered around proven on field success, not betting on untapped markets. TV revenue is not the future, competitive on field play is.

If ODU and Charlotte became mushroom clouds of football success for the next few seasons, there would be an argument, but that's highly unlikely.

>>75458048

>Tulane and UL Lafayette

Ehhhhhh.... I'd make the case for LA Tech, but not so much ULL.
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>>75458048
>>75458157

>Ehhhhhh.... I'd make the case for LA Tech, but not so much ULL.

I misread C-USA as the AAC.

Disregard.
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>>75458157
I guess it comes down to different approaches. Maybe the TV money isn't there but if the AAC needs revenue it would be wiser to expand with bigger schools with large budgets rather than rural, small schools who can't afford to expand.

The fact that these schools also give the rest of the conference closer and easier access to more national caliber recruits is the clincher in my opinion.
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