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So if he wins the finals this year he officially passes Jordan right?

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So if he wins the finals this year he officially passes Jordan right?
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>>75390887
>passes Jordan right
LMAO

He hasn't even passed Kobe yet boy.
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>>75390887
>if
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>>75390910
Yes he has.
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>>75390887
He passes Kobrick

If he keeps winning until he loses to Father Time then he passes Jordan
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>>75390910
LOL
Kobe is the single most overrated player in history. He was given the easiest nba league before LeBron came in and shook him up.
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>>75391146
>Cavs Fan !1r8leLgB8c
ok bro
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Curry will surpass LeBitch
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>>75391211
Curry will be out of the league in 5 years
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>>75391146
All of LeBrons' rings have a asterisk. 2012 - Lockout season
2013 - literally Jesus saved him
2015 - refs + Apemond suspension + Kyrie game 7 GW

LeBron is overrated as fuck, has to stack his team with the most talent in his conference and still bitches.
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>>75391211
even if curry wins another finals vs lebron, james will still have the edge for beating curry when it mattered the most. That records not meaning shit because no ring will forever haunt the warriors, unless they go 74-8 and win it this time.
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>>75390887
What happens when he takes his 5TH L in the Finals this year, forever out of the Top 10 All Time?
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>>75391253
>being this retarded

Let me guess, you think Joe Montana is a better QB than Tom Brady?
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>>75391253
Yeah because averaging 30/11/9 in the Finals and beating a 70 win team from down 3-1 somehow warrants an asterisk. Just stop the hate and enjoy the fact that you are witnessing one of the greatest players to ever play the game.
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Salary cap? No thank you. I'll buy a championship instead.
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>>75391253
>An insight into the mind of a soccer-watching Warriors-bandwagoning Asian virgin retard
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>>75391329
What does NFL have to do with this?

When LeBron gets 9 more Scoring Titles, wins DPOY, wins another MVP, wins 3 more rings with 3 more FMVPs then we can have a debate about hI'm being the GOAT over Jordan. Until then he's not even above Shaq or Duncan All Time.
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>>75390887
Honestly, I think if there's enough of a narrative around the finals (surely that means Warriors - Cavs rematch, right? Spurs are a low-ratings team, Rockets are gay, other West teams are interesting but not good enough) and the Cavs win trough LeBron doing great things (another narrative of LeBlock or maybe he actually hits a game winner for once in his life), only THEN will the discussion begin for NEXT season. He will be a very comfortable second place and contender after that but pundits will seriously consider the next season a GOAT-deciding season.
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>>75391416
>Titles/awards are the only things that matter
You can cherry pick stats and records if you want to go that route, what LeBron has done with his time in the league is pretty fucking insane.
>Shaq
Nevermind you're retarded.
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Not there yet but if he makes the finals again (regardless of outcome) I think he's squarely number 2 alltime. 7 straight finals appearances is ungodly
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>>75391522
You're retarded if you would take LeBron over prime Shaq
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>>75391253
you obviously didn't watch the game tonight huh?

4 of 5 starters for the cavs sat for the better part of the 4th quarter. Irving and Love did't play one minute in the 4th, and Lebron had a 40 point triple double.

Dog are you high?
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>>75391211
Curry's entire life became a meme after 3-1. No matter how great the rest of his career goes he can never recover from that.
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>>75391580
BREAKING NEWS The Pacers are garbage and the Cavs are stacked
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>>75391565
Confirmed for only knowing about LeBron once he returned to Cleveland.
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>>75391565
>I would pick Shaq over Lebron

Anon you have no right calling other people retarded.
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>>75391629
Confirmed for only knowing about Shaq when he played for Cleveland
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imo it goes

"new" league

jordan
shaq
duncan
bron
kobe

"old" league

russel
jabar
chamberlain
johnson
bird
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>>75391646
I don't know Anon.

People are too quick to forget just how dominant Shaq was during the threepeat era.

I would say that never has a player been so unstoppable (aside from the single caveat of his free throws) in the entire modern era.
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>>75391646
LeBron couldn't beat a old Mavs team in his prime and got washed in the Finals in historic fashion against a old Spurs squad. Lets just ignore that tho
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>>75391690
Except for maybe LeBron?

Why are you on Shaq's dick dude, nobody of merit considers him an alltime -great-. (I even really like Shaq, but get fucked).
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>>75391690

He also fell off the fucking map after his first year in miami and in general declined way faster than he should have because he was lazy as fuck. He should have easily been a top 3 playee ever
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>>75391675
this being said i think by the end of his career bron and jordan are pretty much going to be neck and neck. the guy is a monster and the only reason i have him at forth is cause if he ended his career right now he wouldn't be on par with the rest imo
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All you neo nba fans forget how shit LeBron was against the mavs
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>>75391714
I can't defend not beating the Mavs other than the NBA is rigged and the narrative that year was Dirk being an unstoppable giga-Caucasian who perfected the jump shot, but them losing to the Spuds was being out-basketballed. That finals was great to watch, and you can't just fault LeBron.
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>>75391737
lmfao that was 2011? who gives a fuck
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only if he then moves to the Warriors and wins another 2
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>>75391757
That was his 8th year in the league lil bitch
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>>75391757
It still happened, never happened to Jordan tho
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>>75391771
b-but i thought the nba started in nba 2k11?
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>>75391253
>Jesus
Curry wasn't on his team.
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>>75391768
>Curry
>Klay
>Durant
>LeBron
>Drayboon

Who could stop them
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>>75391714
>old Spurs squad

I want 12 year olds to leave.

Manu, TD, and Parker were all literally in their primes. Plus they still had based defensive legend Bruce Bowen.
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>>75390910
He's past Kobe bruh
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>>75391804
Only when he gets 5 rings
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He has long since passed Jordan
Only stepping stone he has left is Pippen. Kareem is simply unattainable
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>>75391796
I'm talking about 2014, not 2007 when he got swept. Go to bed faggot you're gonna miss your small bus in the morning to middle school.
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>>75391211
lol jesus christ dude are you serious?
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>>75390887
LeGod is unironically the greatest player overall already

Jordan is the greatest winner, but not a better player than James

James = Rodgers
Jordan = Brady

Achieving pic related and coming back from down 3-1 against the statistically greatest team on paper of all time is the most impressive accomplishment in sports history
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>>75391810
>Implying 3 of Kobe's rings weren't courtesy of pic related
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>>75391830
>implying LeBron wasn't gifted rings by Ray Allen and Kyrie and Kevin Durant
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>>75391829
true
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>>75391823
>Those basic bantz
>Trying this hard on an Angolan yak farming board
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>>75391845
see
>>75391829


but no please don't stop riding dick. we who cheer for the goat to do his thing love it when you bitches get proven wrong. it's kind of like batman vs the joker. we need you just to say we told you so, and you need us cause you have no one to troll besides believer in the GOAT
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>>75391829
>greatest winner
>laughingstock of the league first round exit machine when not surrounded by an all time cast and top 3 coach
hell even Dwight is a better winner
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>>75391845
So if you hit a clutch shot at any key moment in a series you are the sole reason for a win and only one deserving of a ring?

>mfw Shaq and Kobe were actually "gifted" rings by Derek Fisher and Robert Horry
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>>75391913
You say that sarcastically but look at what Kobr accomplished without Fisher while Fisher was off making more finals
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>>75391787
>who could stop them
Drayboon, Curry and Durant
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>>75391829
Wrong. LeBron still hasn't had a better Finals series than what Jordan had in 1991 or 1993
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>>75390887

no, because fewer championships.

Championships are the end-all be-all of the quality of a player. This is true. Don't like it? Win a championship or paradoxically create a communist hellhole, thus successfully winning competition, and then declaring that competition is not allowed.
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Not yet, the closer he gets to 6 rings, the more likely he will to reaching jordan.
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>>75391829
>coming back from down 3-1

But Jordan was never down 3-1 in a Finals or ever down period in a Finals
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>>75391977
I do wonder if that happened what % of gatorades would turn out to actually just be anti-Lebron rather than pro-Jordan, and suddenly switch to saying Russell is the goat because muh 11
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>>75391952
Then Bill Russel is better than Jordan
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>>75390887
This is one of those things that genuinely grinds my gears.

When will people realize that Lebron and Jordan played in two completely different eras and therefore can't be properly compared? Lebron is the greatest player of the 21st century, period, just like Jordan is the greatest from his respective era.

Lebron is not only an athletic freak of nature but his basketball IQ is off the charts. He ADAPTS his game to style of basketball played in the modern NBA (3 point heavy, easier to draw fouls)

Guess what? Jordan did the exact same thing but according the brand of basketball of the 90s (smashmouth, hard nosed defense, etc.). If you were to take the two and switch the eras they played in, they would be forced to change their gameplans and play style entirely.

tl;dr Accept them both for being the greatest from the era they played in and stop firing up this argument every time Lebron has a good game.
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>>75391977
If Lebron wanted to win 6+ rings he could just take a paycut and fucking sign on the warriors for the vet minimum.

What the hell do people mean by these ring arguments? Is he suddenly good now if he does that? And better than Jordan?

Or do you mean he has to make his own team and lead them to the trophy like he's doing with the Cavs
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>>75392158
Jordan didn't adapt. he just flailed miserably for years until his front office decided to draft a top 10 all time player and fill out the rest of the roster with guys ranking from 30 to 250 all time
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if Lebron played with a top 10 player he'd have 10 rings.

scottie pippen is literally top 10 dont @ me
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>>75392158
Jordan is a miserable prick with no friends.
That's a difference.
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>>75392158
>muh different errors excuse
Didn't work for Joe Montana, doesn't work here.
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>>75392207
this

i mean the moment he entered the league it was his. right now he has kyrie, which is decent. and love, which is ok. everyone else is just about as good as anyone

jordan had a crazed lunatic out for boards and shutting down players, and then someone even bigger and more athletic than he is to tag team his way to the top

name one other player on the cavs who is arguably just as athletic and big and dominant on the cavs as le fuckin bron james
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>>75391950
Jej, nigga even I can get hot and shoot a couple midrange jumpers foh
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>>75391250
Shooters have longer careers than gorilaballers
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>>75391716
Most experts consider Shaq a top 10 player irl
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>>75392484
Thanks Spain (lmao) but if they do he's never higher than 8.
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If Lebron had a hook shot he'd literally be Magic
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>>75392509
If Magic was faster, more athletic, had a decent 3 pointer, played better defense, and wasn't a tremendous flaming faggot with HIV, he would literally be Lebron.
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>>75392590
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>>75392710
>>75392590
forgot pic
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>>75392590
LeBron is pretty mediocre from the 3 point line.Either way prime Bird>Magic
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>>75392509
>>75392590

Magic saw the court like no one else could, or ever will. Lebron sees his face in the wax reflection.
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>>75392497
8 is pretty fucking good in my opinion.Specially for a lazy fuck that never bothered to improve his game
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>>75392750
Magic is 30% on his career from 3pt. Lebron is 34% and 36% this season. Its improved with age to the point where its more than just decent.
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>>75392207
Prime Kobe and LeBron on the same team at the same time as Jordan and Pippen. Which duo has more rings in 10 seasons?
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>>75392812
LeBron 3pt % is getting higher because he takes less, not that he's a better shooter than years past. You make 1/3 3pt a game and that's 33%
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>>75392812
>Magic is 30% on his career from 3pt
You have to take into account that 3's weren't trained back then and was a secundary option.If they had practiced 3 mores their % would be way higher
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>>75392207
Scottie might not be top 10 at his position All time, let alone just top 10.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoEl2Oo66IY

If this ain't some of the most electrifying shit ever
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>>75392943
>Scottie might not be top 10 at his position All time, let alone just top 10.
Who are better than him?
I can just think of LeBron,Bird,Durant,Ervin and Wilkins and the last two are debatable
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Jordan was an overhyped glory hog. LeBron surpassed him when he beat the greatest team of all time. Only nostalgia fans believe otherwise.
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>>75393097
>nostalgia fans
You mean almost every NBA fan under the age of 25?

It seems like every person I know who religiously defends Jordan, Wilt, Bird, etc. are guys who never saw them play.
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>>75393027
Bird
LeBron
KD
Worthy
Pierce
Dr.J
Baylor
Hondo
Rick Barry
Wilkins
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>>75391253
>>75391329

>being this retarded

Let me guess, you think John Cena is a better WWE Champion than Hulk Hogan?
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Why do NBA fans always talk about superstars only?
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Am I high or are there literal fucking retards who think Lebeta is better than shaw, kobr or Duncan in this thread? That babby back bitch cakewalks to the finals in a shitty and watered down conferences only to get bailed out by ring chasing former superstars and pop having a senile moment (2013) or the league officials (2016) for his manufactured legacy. I'll give him 2012 though...he earned that one.
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>>75391211
Kek, Curry will never ever live down 73-9, 3-1
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>>75393215

It's not just NBA fans

Also it's because they're on the court 3/4 of the game, nearly every game
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>>75393401
Brady lived down 18-1. It's possible but Curry has to win at least 3 more rings and 3 FMVPs. If he does that his career will look like:
4 rings
3 FMVPs
2 MVPs
Every 3pt record in NBA History

If he does this idk if that's a better career than LeBron but it's a top 10 All Time career and Magic will be the only PG ever ranked above him. The health of KD and whether or not Klay will be content being a 3rd option in his prime years will determine if he gets this done.
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>>75393496
73-9, 3-1 is worse than 18-1. Not only did they blow the finals after the best season in NBA history, but they did so becoming the only team to blow a 3-1 game lead in the finals as well.
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>>75393165
Some of those SF are pretty debatable
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>>75391714
>old Spurs squad
you mean the best basketball team of the century? the 2014 spurs were better than the early 2000s lakers and the current warriors. they perfected basketball for an entire season.
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>>75393215
thats how the game is marketed
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>>75393809
>the 2014 spurs were better than the early 2000s lakers and the current warriors
Shaq always fucked Duncan.The Warriors would probably just outchuck them
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Since there are only 2 70 win teams in NBA history, what's more impressive. Being the 70 win team and getting the ring or beating the 70 win team and getting the ring?
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>>75393561
>73-9, 3-1 is worse than 18-1

>>75393496
>Brady lived down 18-1


how can two people arguing with each other both be so completely wrong at the same time
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Realistically, he needs this finals + another finals at least to pass MJ in the eyes of the public at large.
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>>75390910
I am Dutch and even I know Kobe never held a candle to Lebron.
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hes been officially acknowledged as the GOAT a long time ago desu
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>>75393864
It is not about titles.He needs a clutch moment in the finals.And a block when in the third quarter isn't one
>>75393831
They were 3-1 against a healthy Warriors only injuries and Draymond's gorilla IQ let the Cavs take the finals.It was just the perfect storm for the Cavs
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>>75390887
Casuals are so eternally booty blasted by LeGod that he could win 10 straight championships and they would still never admit he's the GOAT. In my eyes he's already proven that he is, if he wins this year he might sway a few more of the smarter NBA fans, but the average everyday fan will never ever change their mind on him.

Like, there are casuals literally in this thread who actually think Kobe is better than LeBron like this retard >>75390910 and that's the common sentiment of the average NBA fan. None of them actually watch basketball or know what they're talking about but there is a big enough crowd of them that they reinforce their retardation though mob mentality and it catches on.
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>>75393915
>And a block when in the third quarter isn't one

If you're talking about last year, you know that was in the 4th with under 2 minutes to play, right? And people seem to forget he essentially hit the game winner in game 7 of the 2013 finals.
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>>75393864
Even if you give LeBron 2 more rings he still falls short to Jordan accomplishments, he's only catching Jordan in stats because he's playing more seasons.

In my opinion any chance of LeBron passing Jordan died in the 2011 Finals. LeBron can only pass Magic and maybe Russell at this point, Kareem and Jordan are safe from LeBron.
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>>75390910
this, people are so disrespectful to Kobe and Duncan, Magic and KAJ and Bird

LeBron is a god in Cleveland but simply a man among other legends in the history of the NBA

if the beats this Warriors team, I'd admit he's had a better career than Kobe though, even in my mind those Miami rings barely count
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>>75394457
if Lebron's miami rings dont count than Kobe's shaq rings definitely don;t fucking count
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>>75394464
Kobe was traded to the Lakers before Shaq came, while he likely forced his way there, it's not getting your two top 15 all-nba buddies and joining the same team in your athletic prime

And I didn't say they don't count, they just count for less
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Why do people ITT pretend to have seen Jordan play? He retired literally 20 years ago
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>>75394509
I saw him play in his last season, was 9 years old

wozards jordan doesnt count desu
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>>75391745
>Mavs getting favorable reffing in an entire series

Hahahaha you didn't actually watch the playoffs that season did you? Or any Mavericks playoffs any season ever. The NBA isn't exactly great at hiding the fact that they hate Mark Cuban.
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>>75394457
The only comment worth reading in this shit thread, on this shit board. Fuck all of you.
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>>75394515
>was 9 years old
So, it doesn't count

You don't have memories of that besides maybe an open dunk

Any person younger than 30 (almost everyone in this webiste) should say LeBron is the GOAT, or at least the best player they've seen
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Lebron will never be able to surpass Wilt.
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>>75394481
LeBron was always the best player on his team though, and he would have been no matter where he went

Kobe was carried hard by Shaq and couldn't carry teams to the second round without significant help
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>>75394538
Of course not, the game had different rules back then. Now it's pretty much a different sport

I'll be literally and technically impossible to score 100 in a game in the future
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>>75394550
>Kobe was carried hard by Shaq
but he also carried Shaq for huge amounts of times during the Pacers, Blazers and even parts of the Kings series

People just remember Shaq dominating against the Sixers and the Nets
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LeBron will never be TRULY god-tier because he never played (and never will) in the West in his career. East has improved this year, but it's still a cakewalk basically. In the West all Lebron's team would be R2 exits.
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>>75394585
I still don't understand why Lebron's rings where he was far and away the best player on the team is somehow worth less than a ring where Kobe was not even the best player on his team and most people even admit the 2002 WCF was the biggest refball in pro sports.

It's Lebron's fault the Cavs have been completely dysfunctional?(and STILL won a ring with them with tyron fucking lue as his coach). Not to Mention he has one fucking mvp in his entire career, the same amount as Derrick Rose.

Kobe is overrated shit. I could see an argument for Duncan but not Kobe.
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>>75391555
In a very weak eastern conference to be fair
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Who still /Linsanity/ here?
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>>75391784
Every fucking year Rockets manage to fuckup Curry somehow
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>>75394638
MVP don't matter since that shit is more narrative than skill nowadays
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>>75394705
and since the media sucks Kobe's cock it says something that he couldn't win multiple mvps
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He's lost too many Finals to ever catch Jordan.
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Lebron.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzP1VWtRarI
/THREAD
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>>75395430
>Taking this retard's opinion seriously when he said that Miami's big 3 was just "a little help"
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>>75392451
Not ones made of glass
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Lebron will never pass Jordan because of his flopping
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>>75394710
>since the media sucks Kobe's cock

?? The media has hated Kobe since the rape case, but they sure have been riding LBJs dick sonce he was in high school
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>>75395865
This
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He needs to have a winning record in the nba finals first
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>>75391867
>yak farming board

Kek
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>>75390910

He passed Kobe before he returned to Cleveland senpai
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>>75390887
He will never pass Jordan.

Jordan played in a much more difficult era. All the teams LeBron plays against are soft as velvet.

Any time LeBron had to play hard hitting teams with dominant bigs (Spurs, Mavs, Celtics), he got BTFO.

Pic related. Bron is only dominant now that the NBA is a literal millenial meme league.
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>>75395430
This guy's an idiot but I do agree with the sentiment that people ride Jordan's nuts way too much. He's still the greatest player of all time but the way people talk about him you'd think he could 1v5 LeBron, Kobe, Magic, Kareem and Duncan and win in a blowout.
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>>75397215
This
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He's already better than Jordan
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>>75392189
>Or do you mean he has to make his own team and lead them to the trophy like he's doing with the Cavs

Jesus christ you don't actually think this do you
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>>75390910
Jordan played against literal who's teams most of his career.
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>>75391829
This
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>>75399055
No he didn't.
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>>75390887
'no'
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>>75394523
>That post saying anything about reffing
>Hahahaha
So this is the power of Mavs fans.
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>>75391829
Rodgers is not the greatest player overall.
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>>75392155
>implying he is not
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All I can say is that if Kobe never "raped" that hotel slut and the media didn't turn their backs on him for 5 years during the prime of his career that you muppets would have more respect for him. Half of you don't even remember when the case was happening, the aftermath of him losing all of his endorsements and his signature shoe becoming a generic flagship model for 2004 and 2005. It wasn't until the 81 point game almost 3 years later that the media and fairweather fucks started to suck his dick again and Nike let him have his shoes finally, but 2008 was the year that he finally regained everybody's respect. He had a harder road and better mentality throughout his career to achieve more than Lebeta probably ever can.

If LeBron can win this years finals legitimately without injuring the opposing teams best rim protector or bitching to officials to have other starters suspended then maybe he can move up the ladder and almost be on Kobe's level. Kobe and MJ would never resort to the pussy bitch moves that LeFlop is famous for.
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>>75393905
[Citation needed]
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>>75392217
Literally /ourguy/
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>>75403206
It's the last five years of kobe's career that everyone remembers
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>>75399975
>expansion teams a gallore (raptors magic, grizzlies etc)
>old teams beyond shit (celtics)
>refs sucking MJ's dick every game, providing him with six gorillion free throws
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>>75390887
he also have like 6 more years to retire
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>>75397215
Lmao, LeBron would, if anything, been even better in the 90s than the current era.

There is no better player in the league at finishing through contact. LeBron is an athletic freak that dominated in an era where the rules neutered athletic players.
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>>75390887
>So if he wins the finals this year he officially passes Jordan right?
nah, jordan only played for 15 season and won 6 championships. 2016-2017 is lebron's 14th season yet he only has 3 championships.
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>>75403710
also, lebron cant dunk like jordan
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Has LeBron ever quit?

lel imagine if /sp/ was around when Jordan quit to play baseball, he'd be meme'd and harassed relentlessly.
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>filter out trips and responses to trips
>half the thread gone
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>>75403735
>be GOAT
>quit your sport in your prime because muh daddy got murdered over gambling debt

Pretty pathetic desu.
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>>75393097

>the greatest team of all time
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>>75403765

>filter out croats
>half the shitposts gone
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>>75403735

2010 playoffs because Delonte fucked his mom. 2014 finals because the air conditioner wasn't working.
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>>75392402
>i mean the moment he entered the league it was his.
LeBron did fuck all in the NBA before the 2007 Finals.
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LeBitch is the Ronaldo of Basketball.

Gets carried by the team, cries when he doesn't get a foul called, and flops constantly.
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>>75399055
Same argument can be applied to LeBron you spic cunt
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If LeBron had forced the Cavs' victory in 2015 literally by himself then I would've considered him GOAT. The image of him collapsing after winning the ECF gave me chills.
But he didn't, the Warriors memed his ass and made me remember 2011 more and I never even forgot 2013. He was great last year but that just proves he's not good enough to do it alone. MJ wasn't either but at least he had only one other legit All-Star with him at any given time
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>>75399055
>Patrick Ewing's Knicks
>Reggie Miller's Pacers
>Shaq's Magic
>Stockton and Malone's Jazz
>Magic and Kareem's Lakers
>Larry Bird, Robert Parish and Kevin McHale's Celtics
>Bad Boy Pistons
>Hakeem's All-Star Rockets
>David Robinson's Spurs
>Clyde Drexler's Blazers
>Gary Payton's Sonics
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>>75404184
Don't call me that.
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>>75404158
As if Jordan didn't get calls from the refs. Jordan was basically the first player who introduced superstar privileges in to the NBA.

LeBron doesn't cry to the refs any more than the average player, and refs will miss fouls on him because he's so strong it doesn't even look like he was fouled sometimes.

Wade and Harden are exceptional refbabbies, but LeBron isn't any more reliant on the refs than Dirk or Duncan.
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>>75404400
>Patrick Ewing's Knicks
Old as fuck
>Reggie Miller's Pacers
muh long shots. Literally a one trick pony
>Shaq's Magic
Not in his final form, was but a little kid adapting to a game of grown ups, getting owned multiple times.
>Stockton and Malone's Jazz
One of the only challengers, but a bit late in Jordan's career
>Magic and Kareem's Lakers
On their way out
>Larry Bird, Robert Parish and Kevin McHale's Celtics
On their way out
>Bad Boy Pistons
Only went against them like 2 seasons
>Hakeem's All-Star Rockets
Another of the few worthy challengers
>David Robinson's Spurs
Other one of the good teams
>Clyde Drexler's Blazers
pretty average
>Gary Payton's Sonics
had like two good seasons and was a symbiotic relation with Kemp. Charles Barkeley's Suns tier

What about the following shit teams he faced most of the time:

>Mouresan's Bullets
>Dee Brown's Celtics
>Glen Rice's Hornets
>Tyrone Hill's Cavs
>Jason Kidd's Mavericks
>Moutombo Nuggets
>The who's from the NJ Nets
>Latrelle Spreewell's Warriors
>Nick Van Exel's Lakers
>the nobodies from the LA Clippers
>Mourning's Heat
>Guggliotta's T'wolves
>Allen "I ain't passing you the ball" Iverson's 76Sixers
>*grasp for air* THE BUCKS HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Etc
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>>75397215
The only time jordan got the the eastern finals was when the celtics and pistons where to old to compete, and the lakers got old. jordan literally had an easier road to the playoffs and a championship than lebron. His only big competition was sir charles and hakeem being close to his age and still good but you young bloods don't know that because yall young jordan fanboys. If any of the teams I mentioned faced him and where the same age he would loose 9/10. He didn't even win his first ring until he was 29 and anybody that was anybody was on their last leg. If lebron wins which is doubtful he will completely eclipse jordan the same way brady eclipsed joe montana this year. Perfect record doesn't mean shit if you won against old ass teams.
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LeBron isn't even Kobe tier yet.

He's arguably top 10 but nobody that knows basketball ever puts him in their top 5.
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>>75404724
lol you're retarded
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>>75404731
>Only player in top 10 points and top 20 assists
>First person to lead finals in all stats
>Defeated the 73 win team
How is Kobe better?
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>>75404767
>muh stats
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>>75404731
what player would you pick to start a team around then if not lebron. kobe is the the biggest meme in basketball and was carried to three championships by shaq. lebron passed kobe after his 1st championship.
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>>75404663
>greasespic talking about basketball
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>>75404792
>was carried to three championships by shaq
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>>75390887
he'll never pass jordan, breh
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>>75404753
then why he only get his first ring at 29 young blood? look at the teams he faced and the age of the players. Literally could only shine when everyone else was past their prime.
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>>75390887
He already has.
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>>75404843

nicely memed there
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>>75394550
kobe wasn't carried. he held back to give shaq touches. kobe was the best perimeter player on the planet while he was winning with shaq.
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>>75404882
and it was a different (better) game. the league has only gone downhill since the eighties. maybe since it's inception.
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>>75404876
you can't compete with facts. If jordan was so good then why did he only win his first championship at 29 when the other stars of the league got old as fuck. Name a team with superstars that he faced that wasn't washed up or over rated and i'll eat my words young blood.
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>>75404972

it's almost as if basketball is a team sport. you really dont have much of a point do you?
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>>75404999
you aren't answering my questions because you can't. Name one team, one, that wasn't past there prime or overrated and I'll eat my words. You won't do that because you are afraid to look up the facts. If im so wrong and don't have a point prove me wrong. if not Ill start off

ring one
Bulls v lakers
star for lakers Magic Johnson, season 11 with being in college for 4 years and after that retired.
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>>75405072
you must be trolling or just bored

lebron didnt do shit until he went to a stacked team in miami 9 years into his career. the whole thing was clearly rigged to boost the nba's pathetic ratings.

he's a statpadding robot with zero charisma. the league has been borderline irrelevant since the 90s and even a meme shooting curry has garnered more interest than Lebrick
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>>75404999
ring 2
Clyde drexler- was good not all time great but good

terry porter- last good year was 1992 then turned into a scrub.
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>he doesn't rate Rodman
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>>75405129
look at the teams he faced I watched them I know

Ring three
Sir charles- good but got fat and out of shape at that time
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