Can we all agree that he is the GOAT defender? My oc btw

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>>75351260
Between Angel Di Maria's game long performance and Ramos showing up in the 90th minute, Madrid ended up winning the Champions league. So yeah, your franchise owes some real respect to teammates other than the free kick specialist.

>>75351626
We do respect Ramos. He is the heart of Madrid.

>>75351260
Who is Fabio Cannavaro?

>>75351819
Doesn't really compare to Ramos bro. But he was great ya.

He's no maldini but he's fucking good too.

>>75351877
Idk about that bud. Ramos is good but not GOAT. Even Maldini and Nesta would be better candidates than him IMO, but that might be my Italian bias talking. Cannavaro would still be above them, though.

Italian bias aside, Franz Beckenbauer is probably someone who's really considered the GOAT.

>>75351260
http://www.ranker.com/crowdranked-list/best-football-defenders-of-all-time
>Ramos = 31st on the list

No, we can't all agree. He's arguably not even the best in the CL right now. I'd honestly pick Chiellini or Bonucci over him.

>>75351819
>>75352144

>Cannavaro scoring important goals
stop

>>75352295
>GOAT "defender"
>Scoring important goals

Are you high?

>liability in defense
>tons of fuckups
>guaranteed yellow every game, maybe even a red here and there

I hate the fact that he scores all those clutch goals. He'd be an average defender, not even worth mentioning after retiring, if not for them.

who is chiellini ?

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>>75351260
No chance, leaf.

>>75351260

>most red cards in La Liga history
>most red cards in CL history
>GOAT

>>75352511
Some nobody who doesn't have a third of Ramos' titles and trophies, I suppose.

nesta maldini

terry chielini puyol cannavaro ramos thuram

godin pepe ferdinand lucio carvalho marquez barzagli desailly

samuel pique materattzi vidic campbell

so on and so on

>>75351260
Cool OC.

You should do it for:

1) Alessandro Nesta
2) Franco Baresi
3) Paolo Maldini
4) Wim Suurbrier
5) Franz Beckenbauer
>>75352672
Not a bad list, but if those are tiers, Chiellini is WAYYYYY too high. He's nowhere near as gifted in technique as Ramos or Cannavaro (and of course no where near Nesta or Maldini).

i also think Samuel is too low, he's much better than Materazzi or Sol Campbell.

Reminder that over his whole career Maldini averaged 0.5 tackles per game