Does this constant Refball prove that it's time for this?

Why no Scandinavian nor Slavic teams?

>milan
>roma
>napoli
"super league"

No. What we need is to go back to old format CL.

Enough of this bullshit. If you're not a Champion you should not be in CL.

>Valencia

>>75333125
Because there's no money in there and UEFA is all about money now.
Fuck this shit.

Yes. The refball proves that Real and Bayern should create another league where they play each other.

British logic

>Schalke

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Maybe they should as we're going to win the Champions League next season so that's the only way all those teams can stop themselves from being fucked to death by Younes.

>Arsenal
>Lyon
>Marseille
>Schalke
>Leverkusen
>Milan
>Roma
>Napoli
>Valencia

>>75333033
>Arsenal

>>75333033
>Valencia in Murcia
>Barcelona in Valencia

>>75333310
Protip: they're essentially the same team.

Add Liverpool

>Roma
>no Inter

>Valencia
>no Sevilla

>>75333342
>Bayern in Austria
>Leverkusen in Baden-Wurttemburg
>Dortmund in Sachsen-Anhalt

>superleague with no VAR
so champions league?

>>75333585
MUH

>>75333177
Interista detected

Yes please, just stick all of these in a league and just let the actual champions of other countries play against one another.

My whole argument is if you have a league format, bad refeering decisions are more likely to be stamped out, and even more so if each team is pretty much on the same level

Why on earth are Man Utd and Arsenal there? Swap them for Tottenham, 3 per country is good enough
Get rid of Valencia, Marseille, Schalke, and then swap Milan+Roma for Inter

>>75333033
>milan
>roma
>napoli
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

>>75333033
No?
It proves it's time to implement big changes in the refs department. What's the point of that Super League exactly? To copy the american model? And then what happens to the other thousand teams left behind..? I'll tell you, they drop out of UEFA and create a new Champions League of their own and rip apart any interest in this "super league".

Real, Barca, Atletico

Bayern, Borussia

Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal

PSG

Juve

CL winner without all the teams mentioned above

This is undoubtedly the best list here

>>75333813
You have a strong domestic base league with foreign players banned / very restricted in order to develop homegrown players and a two tier European super league, with teams being able to have as much foriegn players as they want and able to assemble the best possible teams.

It's a great structure, teams could be relegated back to they're domestic league also if they're not performing

>>75333182
Idiotic format, and much less competitive too.

>>75333182
It's shit though. All the best teams will no longer be competiting against each other. Need to do the super cup of the eufa right after the finals of the CL and the Europa then.

>>75333893
>psg
>choking a one horse race
they dont deserve it, give it to a french team with more history

Why not Porto or Benfica?

>>75333901
It's terrible for everyone except the large clubs who stand to benefit.

Unfortunately for you small clubs make up the vast majority of teams in this sport and won't consent to this.

You are also turning less competitive domestic leagues into talent farms for the super league.

>>75333987
Because no UEFA judges teams based on their marketability and not on actual sporting merit.

>>75333618
>VAR
People keep going on about this, you don't even need replays. A computer can resolve most of the calls.

Tier 1 would be

Real
Atleti
Barca
PSG
Marseille
AC
Inter
Juve
Man Utd
Man City
Liverpool
Arsenal
Chelsea
Bayern
Borussia
Benfica
Porto
Shaktar
Celtic
Zenit

>>75333901
It doesn't matter, you're actually missing my point. Do you think any team outside this league will want this format? Answer is: No.

Why do you think these "big" teams have ANY following and pose as giants? I'll give you two seconds to figure this one out.

>>75334016
>You are also turning less competitive domestic leagues into talent farms for the super league.
> Implying every leagues in the world aren't farms for PL, Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga and PSG.

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>>75333033
>>75333893
>unrionically including Arsenal against those other teams

>>75333986
>history
History doesn't make a team good. Look at Man City or Chelsea. No history, but pumped full of money by shady billionaire owners, and are now suddenly world class. Now look at Aston Villa and Nottingham Forest. They're in the bottom half of the second division of English football.

That being said, AS Saint-Etienne is the true patrician Ligue 1 team

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>>75333033
does that mean we could win serie a again?

>>75334070
I much rather have totenham then celtic

>>75334070
Like I said, great for those teams, everybody else stands to lose. Unfortunately for you everybody else makes up the majority of clubs.

>>75334088
Not compared to what that measure would make them.

>>75333033
Damn I hope not. Its the biggest shit I saw in my life.

>>75334070
BASED WAXTAP
>>75334093
One of the most popular teams in England mate

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>>75333033
>Marseille
>Schalke
>Valencia
british """"people""""" everybody

This is the goal of the Globalist

Although i must admit CL is becoming stale

>>75334070
>Five premier lul league.
>First Tier

Your league is garbage, didnt you get the memo?

>>75334269
But we invented the sport

>>75334202
I dont understand how europeans as a whole dont complain about this in their leagues. England is the only one who that the league is not between two or three teams. And even for england is like 5 instead of 2 teams

>>75333033
4th places should fuck off. Final cl place should go to cup winners

>>75334327
The problem with our league is we've ditched Quality football for competitiveness

>>75333033
Leipzig over Schalke/Neverkuse

>>75333893
Add Tottenham and Liverpool as well. We have actually relevant teams.

Inter and AC Milan too because of muh history.

>>75334016
Every league already is a talent farm and guess what the mid table clubs like West Ham, Lazio, Southampton etc get they're rosters shitted up with Strong Africans and Foriegn talents that are moved around to be given a chance

>>75334175
>Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal
you do understand that the EPL is a second rate league right? france and germany have better leagues.

>>75333182
>No. What we need is to go back to old format CL.
Which was?

>>75334501
Not to the extent banning foreign players would be, artificially restricting competitiveness of smaller teams just so the larger teams would benefit even more.

Being both a Porto and a small team supporter I can tell you small teams especially in smaller countries need foreign players to stay competitive.

>>75334583
It was a retarded format by modern standards and he is a benfica supporter so there's that.

>>75333033
>Man City

They've never done anything noteworthy in Europe, I'd take Liverpool over them

>>75333033
> Valencia

>>75334566
Lol

All i know is seeing Bayern go home because of two shitty decisions is a hard pill to swallow when the whole of Europe has been waiting for this fixture all week.

In a league format you can't luck your way to being on top after 38 games.

>arsenal

can we not take someone who has actually done something in europe like villa

>>75334655
It was not a penalty. The wrong decision was Vidal getting sent off.

And the fun of a Cup format is precisely the smaller teams standing better chances, which is why the FA Cup was the most important competition in the UK for a while.

>>75334070
>Marseille
Put Monaco in there at least if you want 2 french team

>>75334645
man city and tottenham got eliminated from champions league single handedly by monaco, your league is garbage get over it.

>>75333033
W-What about us

>>75334721
lol

>>75334721
>single handedly
and two legs

>>75334740
0 (teams in semis)

>>75334721
a super league isnt just about how good a team is this year retard

its about how much they can spend combined with how much they have won through time. its no good if some euro super league teams are getting their players bought by some domestic euro league teams

>>75333033
>laligateamwinswithpaidrefslol: the league

nah

>>75334771
big fanbases and stadiums too

>>75334770
Just like the aforementioned Germany

>>75334770
>Zero Canadian teams in a relevant sport

>>75334738
Shit i forgot! I'd take out Arsenal and put in Based Ajax in this list

>>75334070

OFFICIAL QUALIFICATIONS FOR BEING ABLE TO GET IN THE SUPER LEAGUE

1.HAVE SPENT OVER 100M IN A TRANSFER WINDOW
2.HAVE MORE THAN 50K SEATER STADIUM AND CAN SELL IT OUT
3.HAVE WON THE CL AT LEAST ONCE
4.HAVE ATLEAST 5M TWITTER FOLLOWERS

>>75334839
>let me change the subject

>>75334811
germany had 2 in quarters

the epl is a second rate league get over it.

>>75334175
>One of the most popular teams in England mate
Mmmm, yes, plenty of customers

>>75334855
>Man city fail on 2 of those

Nice

>>75334874
Your sports opinion is irrelevant as a result of your nations irrelevance in sport.

>>75334874
>let me move the goalposts

Almost as embarrassing as your national identity being a leaf.

>>75334875
Yes, that's pretty much what you need to get into this league

>>75334855
Take out option 1 and 4 and add a few others for a realistic criteria

>>75334070
Dude, not even the Marseillais think Marseille deserves to be there.
t. Lived in Marseille for a while and went to their games constantly.

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>>75334843
Its okay, after a while you get used to being forgotten

>>75334907
keep changing the subject because you can't admit that the epl is a 2nd rate league

>>75334927
I never said the german league was as good as la liga, just merely that it was better than the epl, which 2 teams in the quarters proves.

>>75334855
more like
>reach the CL quarter finals twice in the past five years

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>>75334978
Accept this as a gift of my apology

Replace Arsenal with Liverpool, add Ajax, Feyenoord, Benfica, Porto to give it 20 and I think it's good

QUALITY DIVISION
Real Madrid
Bayern
Barcelona
Man City
Chelsea
PSG
Juventus
Tottenham

HISTORY DIVISION
Celtic
Ajax
AC Milan
Liverpool
Inter
Man Utd
Benfica
Atletico Madrid

>>75334985
>2 teams proves a league's worth

>a leaf is his country's crowning achievement

>>75335133
>epl can only get 1 garbage team into quarters
admit it it's a second rate league

>>75333986

You have no idea what you're talking about, right ?

Either that, or you're 14

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>>75333033
>Dab Utd
>L'Arse
>Roma
>Schalke
>Valencia
>Leverkusen

>>75334855
>1.HAVE SPENT OVER 100M IN A TRANSFER WINDOW
This is quite interesting. Teams that expend more money than other teams can ever earn should be pooled apart

>>75333033
Remove: Atlético, Valencia, Monaco, Lyon, Leverkusen, Milan
Put: Benfica, Anderlecht, CSKA, Zenit, Porto, Werder

>>75335111
>money division

>>75333033
>Schalke

Desperately need this to happen

>>75334070
>he rates zenit

Gee, putting all the refballing teams in one league allowing maximum refballtry.

>>75333813
>And then what happens to the other thousand teams left behind..?
They're shit teams, who shouldn't even exist anymore.

>shitty
>arse
>lelsea
>poonited
>tottenshit
>farca
>real assdrid
>at(le)tico
>sevillel
>p$g
>marseillel
>moneyco
>schalke
>dirtmund
>energy drink fc
>buyern
>jewentus
>milan
>milan
>roma
>napoli
>athleltic bilbo
>villareal
>neverkusen
>lyon
>sporting
>porto
>benfica
>valelcia
choose 9 to get rid of

>>75333033

>Memlencia
>Roma
>Schalke and Bayer 04
>Arsenal

How the fuck did Inter Milan not make the fucking cut?

>>75333813

so what are the shit teams just gonna make a glorified super europa league?

>Valencia

>>75334392
I guess we dont have to deal with those issues in north american major sports. all of our leagues are clearly the best in the world in their respective sports. I guess its different when each country has a great team

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>>75334843
>Based Ajax
good goyim

Super League should use regional franchises like Super Rugby does.

No

These clubs would become even more stale and tourist tier

Just add video replays and sort the fucking corruption out

>>75333033
Any UEFA Super League-type idea should work via promotion and relegation

>>75333177
>>75333810

samefag detected, but i agree

>>75334070

Replace Arsenal with Tottenham, United with Roma, Liverpool with Sevilla. Everything else is good.

>>75335111
>Man City
>Chelsea
>Tottenham
Literally Monaco and Dirtmund are better.

>>75334855

Agreed with all but 2, I think if the club is planning on getting a 50K+ seater stadium within the next 5 years, they should be allowed.

>>75350392

Chelsea are the only team in the premier league that would rape Monaco/Dortmund, all you need is some mental strength and basic understanding of how to attack. Both defenses are meme-tier and Chelsea would easily beat them 3-0/4-1

>>75333177
>>75333810
better throw inter, lazio and fiorentina in

If this happened ppl would be so hyped for it. Literally imagine it, 5 star matches every weekend you would really look forward to the games, plus you'd find out who really is the best team over a season

>>75335111
Put Lyon in the History Division

>No Columbus Crew

It's like you guys don't even watch soccer

>>75350944
>5 star matches

The deluded state of pajeets living on England, they never went to watch a real cahmpions league game like when PSG raped Madrid with based Weah

>>75334855
how many teams fulfil these requirements?

>>75350944
Glad nobody will ever care about the opinion of a disgusting namefag like you

>>75334070

>arsenal
>liverpool

>>tier 1

Muh ancient history

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>>75333033
>Valencia
>Schalke
>Leverkusen
>Marseille
>no Tottenham
>no Sevilla
>Milan
>no Porto
>no Benfica

>>75333033
How would this help? They'd still use the same referees

>>75333342
>>75333585
>Man City in Glasgow
>Chelsea in Cardiff
>Man Utd in Hull

you realise that this would lose all novelty after about 3 years, when the likes of Atletico or Dortmund lose every week and are no longer a big draw because they're relegation battling dogshite?

In what world does Arsenal belong in the Super League lol

>>75335111

lel you put City in the quality division because they have no history but the truth is they don't belong in either

>>75350944

nah BT Sports would get the rights and kill that competition too

muh 250k viewing figures