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Is /sp/ ever right?
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ABUs literally shitting the bed
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>>75302504
Pogba being overrated is literally the only thing /sp/ has been right about.
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the foreigners are still too bum ruffled their beloved Chelsea got Mourinho'd yesterday. Imagine having to live knowing the team you support got exposed by Lingard and co.
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>>75302504
>still pushing this marketing failure
lmao pls stop already
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If only his teammates could finish those chances.
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>>75302504
Not to mention he absolutely destroyed Chelshit yesterday.
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>>75302504
Only because Henderson has been out injured
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>>75302504
What are his dabbing stats?
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>>75302504
>Is /sp/ ever right?
Literally never. About anything
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>>75302584
>Literally never. About anything

Arsenal will not make Top Four.
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Its called /shitpee/ for a reason
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How many goals do Modric and Kroos have this season? What about Rakitic and Iniesta?
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>>75302504
>stats

Wow lmao you are starting to sound like a yank. Stats are meaningless, they coudl've been al sideways passes for all I know.

Thr fact that John Stones has the highest pass completion percentage in the league shows just how meaningless stats are, withouth context even more useless than with.
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>>75302639
Stats are only relevant if they suit your argument
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>>75302636
Pogba has more goals than Modric, Kroos and Iniesta put together. I believe Rakitic has a couple more than Pogba.
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Wow! Only 60,000 euro per pass!
And 2m per chance!
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>>75302699
Point being that he shouldn't be criticised for lack of goals.
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>>75302726
>and
youre bad at maths, lad.
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>>75302504
he is looking at the top 4 that left manure in the dirt dabbing mournfully inside.
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>>75302504
>implying total passes mean anything when there are 30 (thirty) players in PL more likely to produce a key pass
>literally making shit up about chances created in order to make him look like less of a flop
>the utter state of Manure Corp. Internet Defence Force damage-controlling attempts
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>>75302699
>>75302741
And who exactly criticizes him for lack of goals? It's the lack of creativity, workrate or defensive contribution (midfield essentials) that makes him a laughing stock
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>>75302928
Those players are no10's. Not proper midfielders. They play a different position to him. None of them are expected to play box-to-box like Pogba. Pogba should be judged against the likes of Matic, Kante, Dembele, Wanyama, Dier, Henderson, Fernandinho and Xhaka in chance creation.
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>>75302928
Thank you based Slovak
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>still fifth
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>>75302928
Nice shop, kid.
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>>75302987
>being Slovak
>thinking your opinion matters
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I judge with my eyes. The stats lie. My eyes don't. Jogba is overrated shit.
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>>75302996
>those aren't "proper" midfielders tho!

This fucking desperation.
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>>75302996
>Pogba should be judged against the likes of Matic, Kante, Dembele, Wanyama, Dier, Henderson, Fernandinho and Xhaka in chance creation.

I'll give you Matic, Dembele, Xhaka, maybe Henderson and Fernandinho, and add Wijnaldum. Kante, Wanyama and Dier clearly have less creative freedom than Pogba though
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>>75303050
>s-stats don't matter anymore

ABUs SEETHING in this thread.
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>>75302996
They're still midfielders, are they not? Or would you call them forwards? Thing is, Pogba plays like a wannabe #10 anyway, only without the assists, key passes and chances created to show for it. Box-to-box is supposed to close down opponents constantly, win duels in defence and threaten the opposition with an accurate long shot here and there. Pogba does none of that, all those midfielders you listed have more tackles, interceptions etc. than >pogba.
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Is there a site that tracks misplaced passes, missed shots and the number of times players get tackled? From what I've seen I'm betting Pogba would be near the top in those categories. He always loses his man too, though that can't really be tracked by stats
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>>75303022
Welcome, it's sad (!) that customers have resorted to literal lies in their attempts to excuse >pogba
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>>75303085
If you want to be disingenuous and pretend that Pogba plays in the same position as them and has the same licence as them to overlap, get in the box and run beyond strikers then go ahead, but it won't make it true. The only time Pogba has played like those players do was at the very start of the season. He was absolutely slaughtered for it in the infamous performance against Man City. He hasn't played like that since. If he's lagging behind the likes of Dembele etc in tackles, interceptions then that's legitimate criticism. His passing and creation stats are better than them though.
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>>75303085
>Pogba does none of tha
Miss the game yesterday?
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>>75303158
He has played in a 4-3-3 with license to get forward though.
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>>75303158
I'm not discussing the position where he's deployed, but how he behaves on the pitch. Modern formations are orientational in most cases anyway, his average ""action"" radius is very similiar to those #10s.
He doesn't have the creativity of offensive mids, or the workrate of box-to-box mids. On the other hand, he's the third most fouling player in the whole league while winning mere 1.4 tackle per game, and the worst shooter in the whole league with 88 attempts at 40% accuracy, scoring 4 times.
tl;dr - useless.
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>>75302996
city LITERALLY dont use a no10 they play 4-1-4-1

silva and kdb play cm which is why everyone is ragging on de brown for not being as impactful this year because hes much deeper

both are 1000000000000000x better than pogSHIT the NIGGER
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>>75302928
based obsessed slovak dropping knowledge bombs, I never thought I would find someone as obsessed with hating manure as me but you've pulled it off.
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>>75303241
seething
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>>75303218
>Pogba vs. Chelsea
>1 successful tackle, 1 interception, 3 fouls
>1 key pass
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>>75302504
you made a typo, it's actually apollogise, comes from the word apollo, that means rocket ship that explodes
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>>75303248
Just stating the facts la, you have to be very slow and thorough with customers because chances are you're talking to 18 year old FIFA-playing paki who started following football in 2013
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What!? No! /sp/ told me he was shit!! Noo!!!
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OFFICIAL, POGBA-TYPE MIDFIELDER RANKING IN 16/17 EPL:

1. Dembele

POWER GAP

2. Pogba
3. Wijnaldum
4. Fernandinho

POWER GAP

5. Matić
6. Capoue
7. Allen
8. Davies

GIGANTIC POWER GAP

9000. Clucas
9001. Puncheon
9002. Defour

GIGANTIC POWER GAP

90000. Ramsey
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>>75303225
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>>75303225
Not like out-and-out no10s. Of course he's gotten forward at points, but he's still got a responsibility to get back. The likes of Eriksen, Silva etc spend all their time playing off a striker; they might be asked to help win the ball up the pitch but not much else.

Pogba is usually plays with one of Carrick or Herrera in the 3, who also have defensive responsibilities. He's also partnered up with one of Mkhi, Lingard, Mata or Fellaini. These are the players that are given more creative licence in the United team and are allowed to stay further up the pitch. If anyone from Utd is to be compared to Eriksen, Silva it should be them. I'm sure they'd compare poorly.
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>>75303299
Don't reply to me, you bitch-ass Slovak.
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>>75303311
nah pogba is a striker bro judge him by his goals
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what exactly does Pogba do as a midfielder?
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>>75303311
>eriksen spends all his time playing off a striker
>apart from every game where deli ali does this exact role and eriksen works deeper/wider
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Based slovak
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>>75303239
You're using stats you like and disregarding stats you don't. His 'action areas' on the pitch resemble that of a no10 because most games this season, Man Utd have been camped on the opposition box all game. I'm not surprised he hasn't made a lot of tackles this season. Possession hasn't exactly been a problem for Man Utd.
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>>75303299
Juventus wouldn't be better with Pogba instead of Pjanic?
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>>75303311
Eriksen does play as a ten but Silva plays in a 4-3-3 most games. His position is the same as Pogba's when Man Utd go 4-3-3.
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>>75303329
Eriksen never plays deeper than Alli. Pls stop with the lies. He often plays wide which I'm sure contributes greatly to his creative stats. Swinging in a decent cross counts as a chance.
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>>75303295
There's no such thing as a "Pogba-type" midfielder, virtually every midfielder you listed contributes more defensively than he does. Compare him to playmakers and he's falling behind again. In Slovakia we have a saying "Not a fish, not a cancer" meaning the subject doesn't have any distinctive qualities and it's most likely shit. To be fair with >Pogba, his technique and physique are impressive, but he's simply too dim-witted and lazy to reach elite, let alone world class.
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>>75303420
>he's simply too dim-witted and lazy

Just say "black" bro
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>>75303314
Piss off paki
>>75303375
Obviously they wouldn't. While deployed in the Pogba role in 4-3-1-2 or 3-5-2, Pjanic shat all over Pogba's contribution the previous season at Juve that earned him the hilarious transfer. Now he plays in unnatural position in 4-2-3-1 and isn't as impressive since the formation switch, but is far more reliable. Juventus have always been about teamwork and determination most of all, anything else is a bonus. In that sense Pogba never was a Juventus player
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Lallana and Wijnaldum have more goals and assists LMAO
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>/sp/
>ever right

kek, this board is famous for getting BTFO.
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>>75303388
No he doesn't.

He also takes set pieces, which skews these stats massively. Every team is going to score from set pieces each season. The player that takes them gets easy chance creation and assists from them. Not a coincidence that Eriksen, Ozil, De Bruyne and Silva are leading in such stats, they all take free kicks and corners. You have to consider why someone like Ozil has supposedly created so many chances when he's had such a shit season - he happens to be the guy on set pieces.

Every chance Pogba creates is from open play.
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>>75303459
There have been several black elite box-to-box players with amazing stamina and positioning (Vieira is the best example, or Davids), but unfortunately Pogba really is the bad case of black stereotype. A midfield Balotelli
>>75303343
Hey mate
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>>75303490
>You have to consider why someone like Ozil has supposedly created so many chances when he's had such a shit season - he happens to be the guy on set pieces.

Because Arsenal score so many set pieces right
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>>75303490
Do you think De Bruyne plays as a holding midfielder?

>Set-pieces
Good point. What about De Bruyne though?
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>>75303508
They scored from 13 in the league, only 4 are penalties.
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>>75303482
does lallana dab? is winjaldum loved by millions of small asian people?
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>>75303367
Considering all the possession Manure have, the fact Pogba fails to produce key passes completely only makes it worse. At the same time it explains his useless stat-padding in "successful short passes". Intentionally not mentioning assists because that's not only up to him, but how many does he have anyway? 3? There are several fullbacks with more than that
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>>75303505
but he could appear in WWE, imagine the marketing money manure could make from that. Football fans 0 customers 1
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>>75302504
>I rate garbage categories
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>>75303572
It's harder to complete key passes when there are 10 players parking the bus, kid.
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>>75303589
Woodward better be reading this thread, you're doing his work for him
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>>75303076
>stats don't matter until they do
>ManUre customers still trying to justify their £90m flop
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>>75303617
>customers face when pogba will never POG some sweaty long haired american wrestlers while a chink holding a sign saying SCORE SOME CRAZY GOALS FOR ME ZLATAN cheers in the background
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>>75303612
You're far more likely to complete a key pass when you hog the ball as much as Pogbert does. The whole team is instructed to pass to Pogba only for him to pass it back (good scenario) or attempt a dribble and get dispossed (bad scenario). Manure's best football happens when they leave him out of combination completely.
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>>75303646
what like against chelsea? arguably one of uniteds best performances?
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>>75303645
Toplels
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>>75303290
>samefagging this hard to excuse >mouyes wasting €120million on a dabbing machine
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>>75303669
>can't even check for samefag

lmao
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>>75303652
Makes one contemplate, doesn't it
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>>75303612
>It's harder to complete key passes when there are 10 players parking the bus, kid.

Didn't stop Milner against United.
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>>75303646
You know nothing of football. Nothing.
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>>75303695
milner is fantastic. liverpool should play him for every single game. truly one of the best players in the league la.
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>>75302572
God this is worse than 'he hit the ball TOO well'
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>>75303701
He's no Joe Allen, but at least he's more trustworthy than Pogbert.
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>>75302928
Not even the same position as he is. Retarded Reddit tier garbage from you as usual.
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Pogba's just a jack of all trades really. He's alright in attack and he's alright in defence, just not spectacular. He needs to find a position and stick with it instead of constantly being thrown in as a 10, DM, CM, whatever.

This season he's just been another body in midfield, quite like an early Carrick or Anderson in a prime Fergie side. They do a job at an alright level but aren't as important to the side as the others. Meanwhile Herrera's been like the Keane or Scholes of the midfield (in terms of importance, not ability). Constantly battling for the ball, always running, making himself available and always looking to get it forward. I expected more from Pogba at that price, so far it's just been a 5 or 6/10 season from him.
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>>75303766
>so far it's just been a 5 or 6/10 season from him.
He'd have loads of assists if the forwards were less wasteful
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>>75303696
No Argument: The Post
>>75303734
Didn't Read the Thread: The Post
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>>75303508
They've scored a fair few. The thread was about "chance creation" anyway, not assists. Every time Ozil swings in a decent delivery from a free kick he gets another tally added to his bullshit creativity stats. Set pieces skew all creativity stats.
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>replying to the Slav
Holy fuck, do people still do this?
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>>75303766
In other words, Capoue for 15 million would have done the same job
>>75303798
More than he does now for sure (3 lmao), but his chance-creating isn't among the best either.
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>>75303802
Nothing.
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>>75303836
>but his chance-creating isn't among the best either.

But he has the best creation stats of any box-to-box midfielder in the league. It's right there in the OP. We know you love stats. Stats never lie.
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>>75303837
>105 million
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>>75303482
The problem with Man Utd has been finishing, not creating chances.
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>>75303798
Yeah probably, he hits the woodwork a fair amount of times too I think. From what I see, he's a "nearly" player if that makes sense. Just can't pull off the final pass/finish well enough. I know it's silly to judge a player by his price tag, but for the most expensive player of all time I expected better.

If he isn't pulling off some Modric-like performances next season then I'd be more worried. Right now you could just use the excuse that he's still adjusting after being coddled in a top team in an easy league alongside top class midfielders.
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>>75303836
desu Jake Livermore would do a far better job than POGGED in that manure midfield. also winjaldum for 20m would have been exponentially better
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>>75303875
>he doesn't understand football
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>>75303868
Except we've established Pogba isn't a box-to-box, haven't we
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>>75303876
And having a player that can get a goal out of nothing. That can be Ibra but he's not as consistent as someone like Hazard at doing it. The only other player I would trust to break through a parked bus is Mata. And he's out for the season.
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>>75303892
>he supports a paki merchandise corporation that intentionally overpays for emoji players to boost sales and appeal to ethnic adolescents
>>75303882
Don't Manure have some academy midfielders tucked away somewhere? Fosuh Mensah or whatever his name was? He should be capable of spamming short safe passes - Pogbert's best contribution
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>>75303902
he actually read the situation well, shame he was too lazy to actually cut out the ball that he could see was coming
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>>75303938
>he can't grasp soccer, the worlds most basic sport
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>>75303879
He'll definitely improve next season, at least in terms of statistics. He's in to double figures for hitting the woodwork and his general finishing can't really get worse, so he'll score more. Despite what some say ITT, he HAS created chances this season that have inexplicably not lead to goals. The finishing from United's forwards has been astonishingly shit - Pogba's also guilty of this as I said - and will improve next season.

Mou is going to have to do some serious work with him though over the summer on his decision making and concentration. So often this season he's played slack passes out of nowhere or done brilliantly to beat a player and then lost it in some ridiculous fashion trying to do too much. I'm not sure he'll ever have the brain to run a game like the likes of Modric.
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>>75303947
Not paid enough for that shit
>>75303954
>a literal customer, most likely of oriental descent
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>>75303938
>Slovak
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>>75303902
We've not established it at all. He has the most passes this season of anyone in the PL. It's always a sitting/box-to-box midfielder that plays the most passes each season - see Toure, Carrick, Arteta etc.
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>>75303966
>He'll definitely improve next season
That's counter-intuitive to the fact he's been gradually stagnating as the 16/17 season progressed
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>>75304007
He started good, then he was poor, then really good, now he's average
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>Fellaini, Lingard, Young perform better than Pogba yesterday
Really make you think
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>>75303991
>tfw serbs don't know footy
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>>75302504
he's also shot more pigeons out of the fucking sky
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>>75304001
>a box-to-box midfielder who jogs around casually
>a box-to-box midfielder who fouls instead of tackling
>a box-to-box midfielder who shoots more often than strikers yet doesn't score
>a box-to-box midfielder who doesn't assist
>a box-to-box midfielder who can't be bothered to close down opponents
>a box-to-box midfielder who tries FIFA skills on the halfway-line
Truly transcending the traditional roles
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Reminder that Marcos Alonso would have stopped both goals and scored a hat-trick
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>>75304074
>he's digging into the Pogba folder and getting ultra sarcastic because he can't properly refute the point

LMAO I think we're done here.
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>>75304109
Mata would have scored 5 goals m8
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Best CM in the league coming through
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>>75302504
>haters where are you?

sitting in 3rd place
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>>75304115
What was the point to refute supoosed to be?
>he makes a lot of passes, therefore he's a box-to-box
>...
>mfw
Not having extensive experience with Manure customers on /sp/ I would have thought you were the one being sarcastic
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>>75304245
You wouldn't think Herrera is actually 6'0. I think it's his narrow shoulders.
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so he is the black stewart downing then
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>>75303996
>French
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>>75304288
is that Mino Robiola's son on the left?
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>>75304029
Must have missed the "really good" part, was it a Crystal Palace or Swansea match? Remind me
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>>75304308
Around December, I thought you watched every single game you little autist?
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>>75304307
>Take him to a mosque and take photos, customers will go crazy
>I don't care how you get him there, just get it done
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>>75304325
>assists vs Sunderland, Zorya Luhansk and Crystal Palace
Crushin it la
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>>75304382
Can only beat what's in front of you. Maybe you should rewatch every to refresh your memory because you love United so much?
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>>75304325
He's not trying to win internet arguments, he's trying to get (You)s
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>>75304398
I like bullying him desu, if you do it just right you can get him staying up all night ruthlessly looking up statistics. It's amazing.
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he would be considered league GOAT if zlatan knew how to score
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>>75304397
Obviously Anderlecht, St. Asses or West Brom simply stood too strong against the #PogBoom
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>>75304398
>>75304415
>customers make a thread in pathetic attempt to defend their flop
>patiently explained to why they're wrong, using simple yet accurate arguments easily digestible for paki teenagers
>w-we are the bullies here
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Kek, see what I mean?
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Unbiased Pogstats coming through

Make of them what you will
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>poopba
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>>75304839
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>>75304861
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>>75304839
>unbiased
>purely playmaking stats
I thought he was a... box-to-box :^)
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>>75304982
he ain't a defensive midfielder
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>>75304861
>>75304884
Sorry didn't refresh before posting the chart. Still you chose 7 offensive categories vs. 4 defensive, and that's including "aerial duels" for some reason. There's no reason to even start a player like Pogba when you have Herrera doing the hard work and Mata who is far more creative.
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>>75304839
>>75304861
>>75304884
Just how good will he be nest season once he's settled?

£89m is gonna prove a bargain in a few years. We'll have the LeBron of basketball for the next 10 years. Add in the fact that Mourinho is back and I see many CLs and EPLs coming Man Utds way.
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>>75305032
Just completing the relevant categories for the first comparison, didn't know he was going to post more. Still those two charts would be more fitting for #10s where Pogba doesn't keep up with real playmakers.
I don't think there has EVER been a better example of "luxury player" than Pogba.
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>>75303902
God he's slow
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Literally who?
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>>75304839
>>75304861
>>75304884
He is gonna be GOAT. The true heir to Sir Bobby.
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>>75305088
I don't think you fully realize Pogba is worth much more than just £89m or being the best midfielder in the world. Look at the list of most expensive football players before this summer - Bale, Ronaldo, Suarez, Zidane, James Rodriguez. All whites. Tell me, how are black muslim kids kicking the ball around in Paris ghettos supposed to indentify with them? Now the oppressed have their own hero, and they'll know that if they work hard enough, they can end up like Pogba - biggest superstar at the biggest club.
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>>75305117
It really hurt you when he left jewventus didn't it?
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>>75302996
>box-to-box like pogba
i havent seen him do anything in the defence.
he isnt box-to-box
he never was.
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>>75305117
>Zidane
>white
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>>75305155
I mean, you've had the pleasure - nay, a privilege - of watching The Paul in action for 9 months now, every weekend. Tell me, how is one supposed to come to terms with the fact they lost such once-in-a-generation talent.
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>>75305197
Dude he completes over 50 passes per match. If that's not a box-to-box, I don't know what is
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>>75305197
In terms of Football Manager roles what is he then? "Roaming Playmaker"? Just a basic Central Midfielder (Support)?
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>>75305117
Back to your containment board, Melania.
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>>75305214
No amount of meme sarcasm changes the fact you've posted on every thread about him for 9 months and make united match threads just to chat shit.
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>>75305243
kek
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>>75305233
:^)
>>75305234
i'm not well-versed in fm.
what role would a midfielder be that is lazy in the defence, relatively invisible in the offense and only has few flashy moments?
vidal is a box-to-box cunt
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>>75304279
still /fit/ would make him a manlet somehow
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>>75305286
>>75305234
Specifying Pogba's role would be pointless, he has already transcended traditional understanding of positional duties
>Makelele's defensive tenacity
>Vieira's box-to-box instinct
>Zidane's ball control and incisive passing
He only played on the wing once (CL final) but everyone surely remembers the performance that put Pires to shame. That's why I list him simply as Midfielder. In truth, only one term describes him properly - Pogba.
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When a team has unlimited money, does it matter how much they spend?
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what did he mean by this?

https://twitter.com/ArsenalPoper/status/853645089549234176
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>>75305273
Simply addicted to the #Pogboom
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>>75305407
Delet tweet
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>>75305482 (Me)
For --> >>75305442
>>75305407
When you're spending big, why don't you bring over three midfield specialists instead of >le box-to-box jack of all trades comes good next season lad
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>Used to brag about multiple title wins
>Now brag about most passes completed

Loving. Every. Single. Laugh.
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>>75305783
>have conte as manager
>win titles
>have mouyes as manager
>watch conte win titles

Poetry.
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>>75302987
>And who exactly criticizes him for lack of goals?
>sees flag
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>>75304397
>Can only beat what's in front of you
You mean how next season Pogba will be able to beat the cream of Europe's second tier?

>>75304516
Is it, dare I say, time to call Pogba "Forlan Mk. II"?
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>>75308322
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49Zym0gaZqA
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>>75302556
>beloved Chelsea

You serious? Probably the only team in England that's almost as hated as Utd, probably moreso for some
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>>75308539
Chelsea is loved on /sp/.
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>>75302504
I'm still here
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>>75305117
>I don't think you fully realize Pogba is worth much more than just £89m or being the best midfielder in the world. Look at the list of most expensive football players before this summer - Bale, Ronaldo, Suarez, Zidane, James Rodriguez. All whites. Tell me, how are black muslim kids kicking the ball around in Paris ghettos supposed to indentify with them? Now the oppressed have their own hero, and they'll know that if they work hard enough, they can end up like Pogba - biggest superstar at the biggest club.
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>>75305117
So United are the new Arsenal? Pogba is the new Henry, artificially designed to appeal to negroes worldwide?
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>>75308503
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxWq8QiDHZ0
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>>75309142
Lol. Diego's goals versus Liverpool meant something. Kuyt's hattrick meant nothing. They finished outside the top 4 and Man Utd won the league.
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>>75303868
>We know you love stats. Stats never lie

He doesn't love stats.
He only handpicks the ones where Pogba is doing badly.

Pogba does better in totals? The correct category is per 90/min. It is unfair to compare someone who plays all games with someone who is rotated.

Pogba does better in per 90/min? The correct category is totals. If Pogba was so good, why is he not playing as often as the others?

Get Pogba to score like Lampard, and he will probably say that goals don't matter.
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>>75309400
You you concede that Man United's win and Dabber performance that you're celebrating means nothing? They're going to finish outside the Top 4 and Chelsea are going to win the league.

>>75309445
>a Dabber-doo accusing others of cherrypicking stats
Mein sides.
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>compare his stats with #10s and creative midfielders
He's not a 10 he's box to box playmaker waaaaah
>compare him to deeper midfielders
He's a creative midfielder waaaaah
What role does he play then lads? What players should we compare him to. Compared to players who play as box to box playmakers like silva, lallana and de Bruyne he gets shit on
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>>75302504
is he overrated? hell yeah
are 105mil too much? they got shit tons of money from their customers
will he ever stop dabbing? i dont think so

can we please end this discussion
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>armchair general writes a tweet
>apologize
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>>75309576
Pogba for £90 million is still a better deal than Renato Sanches for £35 million.
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He's like 13th in key passes and seeing as he only has 3 assists there's no way he is in the top 10 of chances created. He does have the most passes (2070) but that's only like 20 more than Henderson who has played 4 less games
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>>75309571
>What role does he play then lads?
Left-inside-channel-Makelele-bottom-side-Trequista-screening-defensive-attacker.

Duh.

Name me another player in his (EXACT) position with better stats. I'll wait.
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>stats

stats dont mean shit when last season coquelin was the best defensive midfielder in the world by stats
they're simply useless for anything other than goals
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>>75302504
good to hear he's raking up those passes, maybe manU can still get a CL stop through pass difference
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>>75309571
>What role does he play then lads?
just regular fucking ass CM.

compare him with matic, kroos, vidal, ramsey, fernandinho, pjanic...
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>>75302928
Those are all playmakers while Pogba is a box2box doe.
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>>75303241
Are you fucking retarded lad? City plays 4-1-4-1 with Silva and debrown as AMF, sane sterling wingers, and toure Anchor.

Shut the fuck up son.
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>>75305117
Every player you named was older than Pogba when they got good though.
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>>75313101
>taking the bait
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>>75302504
>numbers
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>>75302584
sp was wrong about, Tevez, wrong about suarez to barcelona, wrong about penaldo, wrong about messi. wrong about hazard

Literally if you ever think u doubt urself thinking about a player skills just look about what sp writes and think the opposite
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>>75309487
>>75303719

FAKE NEWS
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A DABBING LEROY FER
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>>75316226
Three Billion British Crowns for a DABBING CARLTON PALMER
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>>75304337
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I'm not trusting a group of fuckers that believe that Dybala is already better than lewa and messi
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Bros does anyone else feel bad that Poopbag chosing United over Jeep FC has sent this Slav into a mental breakdown? He's truly broken.
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>>75302928
you will never be this mad
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>>75317404
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>>75303836
This man is a genius, he keeps finding jobs for fucking Balotelli. He can influence teams to take his shit clients so they can get a hold of his good clients (very prominent at Milan).
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>it's a irrelevant country makes fun of 7-1 post
nice
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People are to stupid to recognize his talent
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>>75302554
Underrated*
Fixed
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>>75308539
just look at all the foreign flags crying about the result still
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>>75316644
Lewandowski is just a typical number 9 desu. Not even close to Messi and dybala with their technicality.
Hell lewa won't even come close to zlatan/suarez.
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>>75302572
An average of 8.3 dabs per match
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Isco James are better than poobag for fuck sakes
both are warming the bench at real Madrid fucking hell
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>all these assblasted customers
Based, B A S E D obsessed Slovak
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>>75303827
This is the new /sp/.

Where a Stockholm Syndrome suffering Slovak still spinning from Pogba leaving Juventus ruins every thread he posts in.

If people ignored him, he'd fuck off.
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>>75302504
Kek Henderson would have crushed him in every stat this year if fully fit an that says a lot
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>>75302996
Oh I get it.

He's as creative as Kante and defensive contribution is similar to Ozil. So really he's good.
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>>75318976
>tf
>tt
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>>75302572
Memes aside, you do understand what he meant by that, right? He's saying Pogba is a jack of all trades and master of none. If Pogba wants to be truly good he needs to specialize on one area.
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>>75319031
>Based
More like sad, what kind of person says they hate pogba but are drawn to every pogba thread like moth to a flame? He's got folders upon folders filled with pogba stats, haircuts, dabs, and mishaps. He probably dreams about Pogba and /sp/, and how he can BTFO the "customers" (despite being a juve customer himself)
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>>75320559
Reminder ABUism is a mental disease
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>>75320559
>>75320597
>p-please stop discussing this particular player
>we're getting tired of making up excuses and pretending we're glad to have him
No
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>>75320623
I don't even like United la
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>>75319031
Cheers man
>>75309137
Henry had undeniable quaility though, don't you think? His marketing appeal was just additional value. In Pogba's case, if you remove the Adidas ads, Twitter emojis, hip-hop haircuts, sponsorsed clickbait articles and Youtube compilations, what's left? A fucking Mohamed Diame
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>>75320630
Good for you
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I always knew Slovak autist was NEET
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>>75320665
>instead of discussing the "player" in question (>pogba), lets divert attention to occupation of this one /sp/ poster that says mean things directed at "my" club. Does anyone else dislike it?
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>>75320708
No need to be so paranoid pal
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>>75303420
Are u fat irl
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>>75320736
There are no fat people on /sp/
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ive only seen him play a few times, but it seems he stops defending at around 60-70 minutes, picks a wing and tries to do fifa skills while the opposing fullback just watches until eventually he blasts it into the stands
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>>75320185
"Too good at everything" implies he excels at everything and just can't make up his mind at which spectacular skill to perform.

It completely rewrites the reality of him committing fouls (he can't tackle) blasting the ball into the stands 40 yards out (poor decisions, bad creativity, poor long shot) over hitting passes (poor technique, poor buildup play) losing possession (poor concentration, poor positional awareness, poor morale) not finishing chances (poor finishing) and just being lazy (not even got Milners strength)

His problem is he doesn't show up to training and relies on the media to make him sound good.

He's a black Steven Gerrard.
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>>75320779
>he stops defending at around 60-70 minutes
If only, he tends to get frustrated after first couple of failed dribbles and proceed to mild chimpouts at every refereeing decision or contact with opposing players. Most teenage academy graduates making senior debuts display better concentration and focus on the game than the most expensive player ever.
>>75320788
Without a trace of Gerrard's motivation though
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Oh man the slovak is probably SEETHING

This was the based Pogba against Chelsea on Sunday. That was only the first half.
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>>75321068
*touches unsuccessfully*
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>>75302996
>can't compete with no. 10's for creativity
>can't compete with DMs for defensive contribution
hmmm
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>>75321089
>1 successful tackle, 1 interception, 3 fouls
>3 attemted dribbles - 1 successful
>1 key pass
One
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Can someone explain to me why Pogba is more highly rated here?
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>>75321103
He's the most creative proper midfielder in the league.
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>>75321128
Here we are having the same conversation.

How many passes did Kante have? Who won the game?

To say you despise Pogba, you certainly have many pictures of him.
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>>75321135
>most creative proper midfielder
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>>75321129
Because >whoscored player ratings are pants on head retarded, there's a reason why no one bothers with them. Good website for lineups, heatmaps and match statistics, but that's pretty much it.
>>75321142
>Manure won, therefore Pogba had a good game
>He made more passes than Kante at half time, this somehow means something
Once again, if you weren't a Manure customer (the most casual and clueless "fans" there are) I'd be 100% sure you're baiting at this point.
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I'm fucking a 10/10 right now with the laptop resting on her back
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>>75321280
And I'm Didier Deschamps, on holiday in Skegness
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>>75321308
Hi Didier
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>>75321280
Hey Paul, that's better grammar than I would have expected of you
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>>75302987
he's a soccer player, not an actual artist.
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>>75321322
a'reet
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>>75321348
Are you sure about that?
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>>75319370
>He's as creative as Kante and defensive contribution is similar to Ozil

Best description in the thread lmao
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>>75319370
>>75321423
A complete midfielder
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Slavbro is getting BTFO. Clearly having a melt down. Hilarious to watch.

>Can't handle the fact that United beat Chelsea.
>Can't handle the fact that Herrera was better than Kante
>Can't handle the fact that Pogba was the second best midfielder in the game
>Can't handle the fact that Pogba is showing he's worth the money on multiple levels
>Can't handle the fact that his own stats are being used against him
>Can't handle the fact that he's still a kissless virgin
>Can't handle the fact that Pogba left Juventus
>Can't handle the fact that United will win the league in 2018
>Can't handle the fact that Pogba will be key to the league title

The current state of Slovakia.
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>>75321438
He'll always try and pass it off like he's not crying.

Just think. There was never this Slovak autist before Pogba arrived at United.
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>JUST
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>>75321438
*Reddit sigh*
>United beat Chelsea
After the first BTFOing and getting knocked out of the FA Cup, that's hardly a consolation prize for Manure. Chelsea were awful and looked just like mouyes' 15/16 team, simple as that.
>Herrera was better than Kante
Average player happened to have a better game than a good one for once? Impossible
>Pogba was the second best midfielder in the game
Greentext
>Pogba is showing he's worth the money on multiple levels
Lazy greentext
>his own stats are being used against him
How exactly does parroting number of meaningless passing qualify as reasoning with the aid of stats? Customers are desperate to have something to show for Pogba's 9 months I know, but this is sad
>he's still a kissless virgin
Greentext
>Pogba left Juventus
Oh no!
>United will win the league in 2018
>Pogba will be key to the league title
Laziest greentexts

3/10 wouldn't reply again
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>>75320660
>dong
Who the fuck is this slanted eyes human bean?
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>>75321644
The concept of signing players solely for their commercial potential isn't new at Old Toilet, the pioneers just didn't cost 105 million
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dong_Fangzhuo
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>>75321669
Jesus... They signed a literal who. This guy probably found the contract in a fortune cookie.
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>>75321476
>15/16 CL with Pogba as midfield *tips fedora* maestro
>Juventus chokes in the round of 16 against Poop's Buyern

>16/17 CL without Pogba as midfield *tips fedora* maestro
>already in the quarters with a good chance to go through

really makes you think
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>>75321726
Don't forget how the 15/16 league campaign looked like initially when Pogbonna was supposed to be the leading midfield man
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>>75321717
lmao
>those shirt sales though la
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OP here

>tfw the based slovak exposed us again
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>>75321914
But we're still friends, right?
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>>75321914
Don't EVER pretend to be me again.

I'm surprised this thread is still up tbqh.
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>>75322155
>Pogba thread
The Slav will have it hit the limit with his imaginary arguments
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>>75322201

KEK
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>>75302504
He really is carrying Man Utd to the Europe League like no one's business
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>>75322349
This. It's a shame the Slovak is letting his saltyness take over to see how good pogba is.
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>This thread

thank you slovak
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>>75322475
Thank you Slovak for exposing your butthurt
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>>75322565
>2017
>STILL being butthurt at the slovak

lmaoing @ur life
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I'm here to save this thread
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Gonna get a Slovakian flag for me living room lads.
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>>75302504
hes been mediocre get over it
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Anyone know a good slovakian porn star?
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>>75322613
>Sucking a third worlders dick this badly.

"lmao @ur life"
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SUMMON THE BASED SOVAK
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if you filter the right stats you can "prove" any player is better than any player, even than himself

I thought only Amerifats fell for the stats meme
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>>75320849
True, at least Gerrard put in the effort and won games.

I only mention Gerrard as another ball greedy media whore. Pogba has a nigger IQ so thinks "kick ball hard now" and he just skies it.

Must be awful for United players.
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>>75321068
His problem is he's too good to keep possession and doesn't need to as its not his role.

Buy more players.
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>>75322630
GOAT.
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>>75320788
>Steven Gerrard

>His problem is he doesn't show up to training and relies on the media to make him sound good.
>Can't tackle
>Poor decisions
>bad creativity
>poor long shot
>Poor long shot
>poor long shot
>Poor technique
>poor buildup play
>poor morale
>poor morale
>poor morale

>Steven Gerrard

WEWEWEWEWEWEWEWEWEWEWEWEWEW
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>>75318987
>An average of 8.3 dabs per match
Impressive~
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>>75320719
>No need to be so paranoid pal
He's right though. You can't dispute his stats and conclusions re: Master Dabber, so resort to attacking him.
It's pretty low, tbqh, famalam.
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>>75322885
"if your team doesnt have the ball, you cant score an own goal" - Pauly Pogbe

he truly is ahead of are times
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>>75323979
The awkward moment when Sir Alex Ferguson was wrong.
>>
>ABUs obsession with Pogba on full display
>ABUs don't even realize how pathetic they look
>>
Why do people always feel the need to exagerate like they're some Los Angeles fairies dramaqueen?
He's not bad by any stretch of the imagination, he's just not 100M good
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>>75324583
because that doesn't get (you)s on 4chan
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>>75305234
deep lying playmaker in Fm
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>>75322630
>Pogba is better in attack than a guy injured half the season who plays in front of the centre-halves, the league's most dedicated defensive MF, and a 47 year old has-been
Wew. €120million well spent!
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>>75324723
jej
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