ITT: known left-wing teams.

south america teams arent political at all
if you read some team is left or rigth its absolute bullshit

is everton right wing then? what about the manchester teams?

>>75263699
I think all of Liverpool is pretty socialist/left-leaning. Don't know shit about Manchester.

>>75263699
All the big English clubs are leftist except Chelsea. It's the smaller ones that are really right wing.

It's because the big clubs have lots of Asian immigrant and trendy teen hipster supporters. The little clubs are mostly supported by locals.

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Seville, barca, and a bunch of other Spanish clubs too. It's not rare to see Che's fucking face on a huge banner. Rayo Vallecano wore rainbow stripes as a pro-fag thing last season too. Seeing them get beaten 10-1 by real was fucking hilarious.

>>75264275
Barça is not left wing they are Catalan nationalists

>>75264275

>Americans

>>75263586
corinthians is you dumb negro

>>75264275
Go back to /pol/

Aren't most teams Left-wing? Known right wings teams would make for a more interesting thread. I can only think of Chelsea and Rangers off the top of my memory.

Can anyone give me a quick rundown on the politics of the major Turkish teams? BJK, Fener, and Gala. I know that BJK is very left-wing and Kemalist.

>>75265110
Real, atletico and betis in la liga are the only ones i can think of

>>75265110
Nazio, probably a bunch of slav teams too

>>75263219
Football was traditionally a working class sport. It's not surprising that a lot of the teams are left wing.

>>75265110
I've heard a lot of smaller German teams are

>>75265479
All Turkish teams are all left wing but Osmanlispor who are unironically Erdog supporters

>>75264034
>Working class is right wing and yuppies are left wing
This is what /pol/ does to brains

I was watching Orlando City SC and I saw an ANTIFA flag

I think we need to have a consensus on what is considered "left" and "right"

A lot of young people think leftism is the gender spectrum and Black Lives Matter™, but typically people who actually know what they're talking about and have jobs see leftism as something to do with material existence with nothing to do with genders.

I was talking to my cousin today and he was explaining to me that the idea of a gender binary is right wing.

I hate /pol/ so fucking much

>>75266363
>>75263930
National Socialist

>>75263586
bullshit

Racing and Boca are peronist as fuck

River is right wing as fuck

>>75269332
Get on with the times grandpa

>>75264034
>>75264275
>>75264034
>>75264275
why bullshit about stuff you dont know you dumb fucking americans

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I love Liverpool's unabashed socialism. Wish we had a leftist force like this in the US, maybe our working class wouldnt be so badly taken care of

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AC Milan are pretty right wing

D*rtmund obv

>>75269975
Vewy light ring

I can already name 20+ teams that are italian that are at least more left than right, let alone for the entire world.. There's absolute tons.

>>75269975
No they aren't. If you look at backgrounds of ultra groups it's as middle as is gets in Italy.

>>75269941
if a class is so easily taken to the cleaners due to petty matters, maybe they deserve the bed they made?

B- b- but Berlusconi is centre-right

Kinda just posting them because in a thread about politics in football clubs, they've just been sold by a politician

There are any teams in England with strong political associations.

Liverpool is obviously a working class, traditionally socialist city though.

>>75270055
>>75270017

>>75270058
***aren't any teams

>>75270055
Hellas Verona is a very right wing team that was literal /pol/ tier in the 90's but they have also moderated out a little bit. Still probably the most right wing football team in Italy.

>>75263219
Livorno is one

>>75270033
Dont know what youre referring to, but stop seeing yourself as a temporarily disappointed millionaire and as an exploited proletariat

>>75269901
So they're scum that want gibsmedats but also don't want new scum coming in to also get gibsmedats

>>75269432
Your cousin needs a round fired into the back of his skull and to be thrown in a swamp

>>75270328
Dems kinda cover that talking point up a bit though, they'd rather talk about how much BBC they can suck

ITT: people don't ralise left-wing and right-wing have different meanings in the US and Yurop

>>75270549
no they don't

>>75264275
Sevilla have leftist supporters, ultras, the team its not left leaning at all, in fact was traditionally the team of high class in Seville. Barcelona ultras were right wing catalonian secesionists. Rayo is a left leaning club, you have to understand ultras not equal to club.

>>75264275

>>75270555
ok

>>75266476
>forgetting Basaksehir
will win the league with a controversial win against Besiktas

>>75269432
Forget these silly terms, it's about knowing your ((((enemy)))) who wants (You)™ to become another of their brainwashed zombie sheeple puppets

>>75263219

But Mane plays on the right...

>>75269941

You do realise that the US democratics are more right wing than the UKs conservatives

>>75269975
>>75270055
Berlusconi was centre-right but Milan fans were apolitical with at best a little left positioning.

>>75270555
Desu American "left" politicians would be considered centre-right here.

>>75263219
Liverpool isn't leftist at all. Liverpool is in fact the whitest city in the top 5 biggest English cities

>>75266143
Atletico Ultras are right-wing, but their general fanbase is leftist, I would say... Not Real, these are right wingers as fuck

>>75270671
I'd agree though that the club is primarily a high class club in the way it portrays itself. It fits the city of Milan really well in that sense. I think most of that is because of the succes the club has had though. But to say that the club is a right wing club is extremely far stretched.

>>75270658
t . Corbyrnout

>>75263219
In spain, talking about ultras, not club, only first división 16/17.
Right wing
Real Madrid
Barcelona
Atletico Madrid
Espanyol
Valencia
Malaga
Betis
Sporting

Left
Sevilla
Athletic Bilbao
Real Sociedad
Eibar
Celta de Vigo
Alaves
Deportivo La Coruña
Osasuna

Not sure, not ultras
Villarreal
Las Palmas
Leganes
Granada

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>>75270706

>>75264836
Barca was founded as a multi cultural left wing team and as a means to oppose spanish dictatorship, real used to be spanish nationalist.
The Catalan meme only emerged later, Barca is left wing by heart

>>75270752
>10% same representation as 5%
Democracy sure is weird sometimes.

>>75270706
this is a really really dumb comment.

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>>75270775
you haven't seen anything yet

>>75270763
What a meme, that is propaganda started in the 90's by Nuñez, dont believe it. If they really oppose Franco they would have been dissolved in the 50's

>>75270686
no they wouldn't

>>75270804
Doubtful if they didn't do it openly.
Franco wasn't an idiot like Mussolini, that's why he stayed in power for as long as he did.

>>75270844
>>75270844
They didnt do it openly and they didnt do it at all. They are a football club, not a political party. Were founded by swiss people in the 19th century, not sense of multiculturality back then.

>>75270870
>founded by swiss people
>not sense of multiculturality back then.

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>>75270870
I was just saying, mostly because I like Franco.
Authoritarianism just works. Based Franco.

>>75264836
lmao barca is left wing because they are still butthurt about franco killing their presidents and controlling their club.

Reminder that if you want to switch teams just because of some apes with an IQ of 65 that sing cucktifa chants you should kill yourself

>>75270955
Which president killed Franco, fgs.

Gamper commited suicide, was not killed.

>>75270980
Of course, Im right wing, traditionalist, not racialist, my club ultras are antifa. You cant change your football club.

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>>75270994
sunyol. not killed by franco but falangists. pretty much same thing. barcelona will always hate right wing.

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Sunderland were found to have the most left wing fanbase in the league in some survey that was taken a few years a go.

And i think there is quite a few people involved with the labour party on their board.

>>75271090
the whitest areas are always the most left wing, makes me laugh so hard because when they actually interact with shitskins they will realise their horrible mistakes

>>75270870
>not sense of multiculturality back then.
It wasn't called that back then but Barca in particular were founded as a catalan club that allows foreign players.

>>75270827
Just because Hillary supports aborbtion and gay mariage doesn't make her left-wing.
Every politician in the US is liberal/libertarian (to me those are the same things, so i translate for americans).

>>75270763
Barça's main supporters group is right-wing. Google Boixos Noís

football in England is a left wing sport, only very few exceptions with clubs like Chelsea and Millwall

Rugby is more traditionalist. There is actually a law and order to the game, with the referee actually being respected by players or else they're off. You don't have diving and stuff like that, which is a very socialist type of rule breaking, to gain an advantage by pretending to have been oppressed in some way and expecting free rewards.

Everyone has a respect for the Union, with Irish from both sides of the border playing with one another without issue, and of course the British and Irish Lions being an entire unification of all home country teams.

This thread is full of retarded left wing=new age feminism and all the bullshit that brings. My local labour MP (who used to teach me at school) absolutely despises any of the recent gender identity stuff and only tolerates it so he doesn't get crucified by the media

>>75271681
always good to see labour mps who don't understand the labour movement

>>75265046
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94Apo8fvd6c

>>75271681
Based

>>75271692
>labour movement
>gender identity
lmao

>>75271771
>The banner bright, the symbol plain, Of human right and human gain.

>>75269930

this.

Why post if all you put is 'I think this..' 'I believe this..'

Just post if you're informed or just lurk if you don't.

Barca used to be a right wing team, but then Guardiola played Messi as a false Nein

>>75271816
Human right and human gain is referring to the right of owning one's labour, not the right to cut your dick off. Even though I don't necessarily am against it, but still.

>>75271816
you should read more on gay rights under communist/leftist governments

>>75263219
>left-wing multinational company that takes money from the working class to pay millionaires so they can make billionaires rich
Come on.

>>75271090
That probably ended after Brexit.

>>75271172
London is pretty liberal...

>>75272030
london isnt white you retard

>>75271965
Which came from ignorance or looking for easy targets, not because there is anything about leftwing policies that make them hate on faggots.

Also communists/leftists were big about feminism.

Hapoel Tel Aviv is left wing ("antifa", i guess), Beitar Jerusalem right wing.

>>75272053
>they don't interact with brown people in Sunderland hence the people there aren't racists shitheads
>there are too many brown people in London hence the people there aren't racist shitheads
Well shit.

>>75272086
no you ignorant cunt im saying non whites are in the majority and the major of london is a non white, it doesnt matter what white people think in london because they are out numbered, london has fallen

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>>75269332
This is the truth in most of bongland though.

The thick uneducated masses vote in right wing governments even though they will fuck them over.

>>75270658
I do, thats why I want an actual leftist type of party here, not just conservatism-lite.

>a sports-themed board

>>75272098
>it doesnt matter what white people think in london
Maybe not for you in your weird attempt to justify racism, which usually happens when the people never saw the scary brown people in the first place.

>>75272132
t. emboli wangobombo

Really enjoying this sports related thread, lads.

>>75272130
When a centrist like Sanders is marketed as socialist ... yeah, good luck.

>>75271692
I perhaps didn't word it right, he doesn't despise the theory behind it, he despises the fact that most of the people involved are just attention seekers who want to shift blame onto others. he despises the movement itself, and would burn it down if he could. hes fine with the actual theories behind it all

>>75269332
the american youngsters that consider themselves "left-wing" hate working class people as long as they're white and are corporate shills. Same is happening in Europe (see France's FN). Times are changing

>>75270658
that's stupid as fuck

the agenda of the Democrats is the exact same as the French Socialists or British Labour or the SPD.
Mass immigration, higher taxes, handouts, abortion, gay marriage, giving up national sovereignty and so on.

>>75272296
Abhorrent post.

>>75272296
left/right isnt an on/off switch

>>75272312
excellent retort you delusional commie

>>75269332
>Working class is not right wing
comfy middle class white boy spotted

>>75272330
What is a "commie" to you? Someone with painted toenails and purple hair?

>>75270803

SNP was a mistake

>>75272357
a brain-damaged imbecile who believes there's no left-wing party in america and only bolsheviks are true left-wing

>>75272381
Democratic party has zero historical roots in left-politics though. On what grounds are they leftist? By being slightly less right than the Republicans?

>>75272381
>tfw too hue to understand frames of reference

>>75272296
Sounds like the Tories and most right wing parties in Europe too.

>>75272424
on the grounds of having the same agenda as every major left-wing party in europe

>>75264836
separatists are always leftists anon. they can't handle democracy so they want to secede to become a leftist "utopia"

>>75272434
Such as mass-imigration and forced miscegenation?

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>>75270803
You are like little baby.

>27.6% of the vote
>209 seats
>25.4% of the vote
>23 seats

>>75272455
I already listed several examples, use your memory or read again.

>>75272476
Exactly, I just needed to know if you were serious. Good talking to you.

>>75271965
Weren't the Bolsheviks incredibly progressive when it came to LGBT stuff and it was only when Stalin got into power that it flipped the other way?

what is left wing?

>>75272549
left-wing is the sector of politics which defends gradual or revolutionary concentration of economic power on the hands of enlightened politicians and bureaucrats who know what's best for you. I-I mean it's the sector which represents the poor, the good and the oppressed.

>>75272483
they always end up putting gays in gulags because it is an abnormal behaviour, abnormal behaviour means individual liberty, individual liberty means supporter of the right.

>>75272461
>25.4% of the vote
>23 seats

Maybe they're sofas?

>>75272086
you do realise there are white enclaves within london right? that's where london's liberalism comes from

>>75272613
to expand, the most socialist/left wing city in the UK is liverpool, the city that's ironically the whitest out of the big cities. same goes for Brighton.
as soon as all those areas come into contact with some serious multiculturalism, it either flips, or they continue to live in their delusions, while at the same time self-segregating themselves into all white neighbourhoods

>>75265110
pretty much all polish teams and other slavic countries + hungary. in italy obviously lazio. in germany dynamo dresden.

here ultras don't have political stances really.

>>75272661
Liverpool may be politically left, but they are one of the most racist cities in the UK.

>>75272661
Happens the same in the US

>>75272661
hmmm white leftist cities are often leftist because the cities has a white immigrant background from poorer countries. And also because the main workforce used to be factory workers.

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>>75270133
kek

>>75272688
left leaning racism is patrician 2bh

shame thei're scousers

>>75272696
doesn't that describe almost every major city back then? they all had factories

>>75272744
yes but many of them were counterweighted with merchants and other members of the financial sector.

>>75265110
MILLWALL

>>75272688
by what metric?

>>75273023
scousers hate non whites, in fact they hate a lot of the other places in the uk, have you ever actually interacted with people from liverpool or do you just read that they vote left and think its some sort of sjw haven?

>>75273038
i dont think for a second its a sjw haven, but i doubt its significantly and maliciously racist towards other races

>>75273068
maybe leave croatia and come to liverpool

>>75273076
you actually believe people in liverpool are more racist than the rest of the country?

>>75273115
point out where i have ever said liverpool was MORE racist than anywhere else, i have simply stated the fact that liverpool as a whole is racist, there is nothing wrong with that either before any one wants to try and make that point, just stating a fact

>>75273135
>Liverpool may be politically left, but they are one of the most racist cities in the UK.

that seems pretty straightforward to me

>>75273157
not the most racist, far from it, as a whole though the city hates non whites, if you were to go to scotland, northern ireland, cornwall, good portions of wales, the hate would be even stronger, its just you have cities like london, brighton, plenty of other areas down south which are full on refugeeswelcome, so if you want to measure liverpool to them then yeah youre right and i back down on that point

all of this doesnt change that liverpool is racist as fuck, okay maybe not as racist as croatia where they go round bashing non white heads in but its still racist

>>75273202
>okay maybe not as racist as croatia where they go round bashing non white heads in

you just gave it away shitposter

>>75273256
>implying im wrong

are you trying to pretend that croats are friendly and welcoming to non croats?

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>>75273268
i will not be baited autist

>>75273296
no youve actually piqued my interest now you cunt because i always thought this was the case

>>75273304
hello underage then

>>75273321
now i think youre baiting me since youre not explaining anything, at least i explained my points to you even if you didnt accept them

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>>75272661
Have you actually been to the UK? The most left-voting areas tend to have a lot of immigrants, Livepool and Brighton are a bit of an exception but anywhere with lots of minorities like Burnley/Manchester/Bradford and London are very strong left enclaves too.

The most right-voting areas tend to be the whitest, east midlands, surrey/sussex etc. Even in London the right-wing areas are massively whiter than the other areas.

>>75273485
>The most left-voting areas tend to have a lot of immigrants

yes, the immigrants all vote left and that's why the areas are seen as left-voting

we're talking about white people here. places that are all white = very liberal, socialist and overall positive outlook on minorities and multiculturalism

everywhere where you actually have white people living within close proximity to other races, without any chance for segregation, people are right wing.
the only situation where white people are left wing in generally multicultural nonwhite infested cities is when they're living in their lilywhite enclaves without coming into contact with minorities that much

>The most right-voting areas tend to be the whitest, east midlands, surrey/sussex

my argument is about cities
put minorities into the areas you're mentioning in a significant number and i cant see them becoming anything other than even more right wing

>>75273342
yes, a country that wants to be seen as a tourist destination has a habit of "Bashing nonwhite heads in"

>>75273762
so white cities voting left means they just haven't been near enough immigrants to become racist

and multicultural cites voting left must just be all the immigrants voting left

real fucking solid logic i see no flaws here

retard

>my argument is about cities
>if i ignore all the evidence that directly counters my argument i win

super retard

>>75273856
what your government wants the country to be seen as =/= what your population does

>>75273762
>everywhere where you actually have white people living within close proximity to other races, without any chance for segregation, people are right wing.
Not necessarily. Look at Stockholm.

>>75273860
no, multicultural cities are often very segregated. most white people that can afford to segregate, do. and those types overwhelmingly vote left-wing. white people that have to live within close proximity to nonwhites in those same cities, overwhelmingly vote right wing.


how is that hard to understand?

>>75273881
so your assertion is that your average croat randomly bashes nonwhite heads in as soon as they come into contact with them?
what do you think this is? afghanistan?

why are brits by far the most autistic posters on here?

>>75273949
i remember the balkan wars lad, ethnic cleansing is a past time for all of you lads

>>75273927
>white people that have to live within close proximity to nonwhites in those same cities, overwhelmingly vote right wing.

give me one piece of evidence to support this happening in england

>>75273901
elaborate


>>75273980
>i was just pretending to be retarded!


>>75274011
i dont have any evidence, but neither do you

or are you actually making an argument that white people that live among nonwhites are more liberal than those whites that live in segregated communities?

>>75274043
so mate do you love blacks? would you be happy with them moving in next to you?

>>75274070
pls get a trip so i can filter you out

>>75274110
>dodging the question

kek are you the only non white loving croat

>>75272688
>>75273135
>>75273157
>point out where i have ever said liverpool was MORE racist than anywhere else
>Liverpool may be politically left, but they are one of the most racist cities in the UK
Croat won.

>>75264836
>REFUGEES WELCOME :)
They need to fucking die

>>75263219
Scouser here.

Liverpool is an old school left wing city. The problem with most of the retards who talk politics on 4chan these days is they automatically associate left wing with SJWs and university students.

This isn't the case in places like Liverpool, Manchester, Newcastle. They're economically left wing, but socially they aren't totally liberal. Gays and minorities still face lots of abuse and discrimination.

You don't get many blacks around this way, but when I go through Kirkdale there's graffiti saying "If they're black, send them back"

>>75274911
he's just shitposting anyway

>>75269332

kek

its true though, all the big urban populations with big working class populations are almost always left wing

>>75270803

explain

>>75269930
Everything I said was true you scat loving swamp kraut.

I've actually put a lot of research into political leanings of clubs.