Always the victim

Normally I'd hate this but if it's the Sun getting fucked over I say let it happen. The Sun are absolute garbage.

>>75228293
>http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39601728
>In an article on Friday, Sun columnist Kelvin MacKenzie compared Barkley - who has a grandfather born in Nigeria - to a "gorilla at the zoo"
>who has a grandfather born in Nigeria
da fugg :DDD

Barkley is utter shite and people should insult who they like, but not get paid for it. The Sun just fills the News of the World gap.

>>75228339
is his grandpa black or just a white man who was born in nigeria?

>>75228371
probably the latter, making all this even more retarded

>Alongside the article, The Sun published adjoining pictures on their website with the caption "Could Everton's Ross Barkley represent the missing link between man and beast?" The picture was later removed.
The fuck? Have the Sun just giving up scousers like them at all?

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>>75228500

>>75228554

Fucking kek.

> The physique is magnificent but it's the eyes that tell the story

>>75228339
oi m8, its 2017, you can only call white people ugly!

any other race and you are hitler!

>>75228293
no wonder he reminds me a bit of Blake Griffin

you can't be racist against white people

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Kelvin's been suspended ;_;

https://twitter.com/PA/status/852951182083584000

>>75229069
He'll be back by next week. The Sun has taken him back after much worse.

>>75229069

right
so the editor never noticed what was typed before approving it and putting it on the page

>>75228293
Racist or not, comparing him to a gorilla is kind of a shitty thing to do

>>75229069
this monkey thing is so fucking confusing.


let's say he was unaware he has black ancestry. doesn't that make better and completely not racist? since there was no racial angle here?
but even if he knew, how is it racist? he was clearly making a point about his intelligence, not his facial features.


what if i called gareth bale dumb as a gorilla? is that racist? i mean bale actually looks like a monkey unlike barkley


like i said it's all very confusing and a total knee-jerk reaction.

>>75229513
You're right.

I personally believe Kelvin didn't know about his ancestry. But because Kelvin Mackenzie was the editor of The Sun during Hillsborough, and was the man behind the historic front page blaming the Liverpool fans, they're going after him.

Typical pompous southern cunt journo unhappy his profession is considered a joke whilst Barkley earns his yearly wage in 5 days.

>>75228371

Black

Since every person on the planet has some form of distant african ancestry, comparing them to monkeys in any shape way or form is RAAACIISM!
Surely this is the argument here considering Barkley doesn't look black to anyone without a skilled eye for facial features?

>>75228293

I'm sure Bayol went nuts when he got compared to a chimp. It's not racism lads, they're just saying you're an ugly thick cunt.

>>75228293
Should be sacked for the shit tier jokes alone.

>want to just play for your hometown's team
>get called gorilla, thick, idiot, and get punched

Poor lad.

>>75229728
>thinking you can be an English player and not be overhyped by the English media to a level you can literally never achieve and then be attacked by said media with the fallback excuse of 'well it's his fault, he never lived up to the hype WE created' if called out on it

We've seen it before too many times.

People are focusing on the Gorilla comment but the comment about the only wealthy people in Liverpool being footballers and drug-dealers is pretty indefensible. Even if you believe it, you can't pass it off as a misunderstanding like the other comments.

>>75229557
>But because Kelvin Mackenzie was the editor of The Sun during Hillsborough, and was the man behind the historic front page blaming the Liverpool fans, they're going after him.
better late than never

>>75229766
name 3 players

>>75229069

This is so fucking weird and it hurts my brain to try considering how certain people think.

>>75229794
Almost all of them, at one point or another. Wilshere, Sterling, Walcott, even Beckham and Gazza going back.

>let's stick up for poor kelvin mackenzie

the state of this thread

>>75229794
Rooney
Beckham
Sterling

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>>75229595
How does Barkley earn a yearly wage in 5 days?

>>75229833
It takes a year to make a day

>>75229794
Barkley, Cleverley, Sterling, Walcott, Delph, Wilshire, Stones off the top of my head

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>>75229826
Kelvin MacKenzie's a good boy, he dindu nuffin.

>>75229794
Wilshere, McEchran, Morrison, Rooney etc. etc.
It's pretty much the oldest story in the book.

>>75229513
>let's say he was unaware
Guaranteed no-one or next to no-one here knew of supposed ancestry. Somehow this reporter is racist though.

I didn't know Barkley was a quadroon but I'm glad I know now so I can call him a nigger.

>>75230053
shut up nigger

>>75229890
>>75229830

To be fair to Rooney, he was probably the best teenager of all time, he was just ridiculously good. Shame he didn't care about his physique

Born in Nigeria doesn't mean black.

>>75230129
>rooney
>a better teenager than owen

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Kevin De Bruyne's mother is a bong from Burundi. Glancing at pic related, it's very obvious.

>>75230168
If you go for talent alone, Rooney is a more complete play than Owen imo.

>>75230197
looks more like a mong than a bong

>>75230129
Didn't Ronaldo (fat one) score 50 goals in one season when he was 19?

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>>75230234
De Brown has quite a few simian features tbqh

>>75230236
not sure it was ever that much, but he scored a shit load when he was at psv as a young player

>>75229513
>let's say he was unaware he has black ancestry. doesn't that make better and completely not racist? since there was no racial angle here?

Yes.

but even if he knew, how is it racist? he was clearly making a point about his intelligence, not his facial features.

Simply context and it being common to call people who are black monkeys, gorillas etc as a slur, dehuamnise them, abuse them etc.

It ought to be innocent, and it could be said innocently, but it context it's best to steer clear. Same goes for some european traditions of 'blacking up', where people have a fit over it due to the albeit american context of minstrel shows.

>what if i called gareth bale dumb as a gorilla? is that racist? i mean bale actually looks like a monkey unlike barkley

That's fine. There is no racist connotation. Also Bale does look like a monkey. Some blacks do also look a bit monkeylike, in a completely non racist way. Sadly a history of actual racists using it as a slur makes it best to keep away.

In this case it's an overreaction imo.

>>75230154

his dad's last name is effanga, i doubt he's white

>>75230197
Yeah he does look like a bong 2bh.

>>75228311
This

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>>75230314
pic related, pretty much how all bongs look like on vacation in a mildly warm country

It's pretty sad how edgy some people try to act just for some attention in this thread.

>>75230274
how many non white dicks you suck this week lad?

>>75230383
>not being edgy when people overreact to things
You some sort of nig?

>>75230274
I agree with everything apart from the 'but even if he knew, how is it racist?'
because it's had a history of being used as a slur against black people so it's a dumb thing to say because it causes the person you have said it to think you are racist, even if that wasnt the intention

>>75230410
But it was used to signify how much of a idiot he is.

>>75230261
IIRC in his one season for Barca, when he was 19, he scored 50.

>>75229826
>>75229857
No matter how unfunny, not clever, or stupid a comment is, if a public figure says something racist /pol/tards immediately shriek cheers of "BASED" and "OUR GUY"

Again, highlights how they think, act, and feel exactly the same as tumblr SJWs just on the other end of the spectrum

>>75230410
>it's racist because people will think it's racist
Wew.

>>75230464
*not taking anything away from Rooney, he was amazing as a teenager, just nitpicking the "all time" claim because Ronaldo was ridiculous. Would easily be the GOAT if it wasn't for all the injuries.

>>75230482
THIS

Seriously, Barkley is the the blackest black man I've ever seen. How can anyone not see that he is black? This is the worst racism I've ever seen.

>>75230482
People are defending him because he arguably wasn't racist. Barkley is white and his ancestry isn't really apparent.

It was a witch hunt predicated on flimsy evidence/flat-out lies.

It really is sad how racist and backward Britain has become

>>75229728
>>75229771
>>75229826
>>75230482
Only sensible comments in this thread.
>>75230591
Kevin Mackenzie is a scumbag and the Sun is for plebs.

anyone got a link to the full article before it was retracted? gota read this shit lol

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>>75230633
If he was suspended for the Liverpudlians being drug dealers thing then it would be fine, but The Sun already directly said it was because of the 'racism'. If you think it was actual racism then you really have no valid opinion whatsoever. Literally none.

>>75230687
>You can only compare 100% ethnic white lads to monkeys

>>75230710
>we all come from Africa so we're all black

Pls Kelvin use this line in your defence.

>>75230687
In all probability it wasn't racism, but it is moronic nonetheless.

>>75228371
Black

>>75230687
>The Sun already directly said it was because of the 'racism'
did they? from what i've seen they take issue with kelvin's wrong and unfunny views of the people of liverpool and just marked the monkey bits down as a mistake

>>75228500
That's just poor journalism. I don't understand who this would appeal to. It's literally a smear piece. And to believe I thought Liverpool fans were over exaggerating about the Sun

I can't tell the difference between Ross Barkley and Lukaku. All black men look the same to me.

>>75230756

I guess he meant he meant this bit

>The paper was unaware of Ross Barkley's heritage

whch to be fair does highlight that it was an aspect that they took into consideration and are distancing themselves from

>>75230733
>we are all literally gorillas desu

I don't view people based on their skin color

>>75230772

typical english racist thug

>>75230762
>That's just poor journalism. I don't understand who this would appeal to. It's literally a smear piece.
our highest circulation daily. makes me proud to be british.

>>75230772
Ad absurdum

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Which one's blacker?

>>75229513
But black people also have low intelligence as well as looking like moneys

>>75230843
me on the right

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>>75230843
Kek

>>75230435
I know this, I fully understand why it was said. Barkley is a massive mong and has subhuman levels of intelligence. What i'm arguing is if he knew he was mixed race then it was a dumb thing to say.
>>75230485
it's a crazy mixed up world we live in, people basically arrive at this conclusion all the time. i'm not trying to say is this is wrong or right, i'm just saying this is the conclusion people will reach

>>75230843

your step-dad

>>75230843
>tfw half-black (mom is swedish, dad is afro-cuban)
>tfw I look like Ross Barkley only with freckles and darker hair
>tfw I tried to apply for a black scholarship and they wouldn't let me do it because I wasn't "really black"

"race" is fucking stupid

>>75231516

>mom is swedish, dad is afro-cuban
>"race" is fucking stupid

take this shit b8 somewhere else

96 wasn't enough desu

>>75231516
>mom is swedish, dad is afro-cuban
i've seen this b8 2 many times

>The Sun

I hate our tabloid newspapers so god damn much.

>>75231533
>>75231557
It's not bait, it's true.

Scousers are such whiny faggots.

The Sun should really stick the boot in more - it's not like any of them buy it (or, rather, shoplift it) so they could give the rest of the country a laugh.

>>75231643
They won't even SELL it in most shops in Liverpool. The newsagents who have to order it in for contractual reasons do so but just don't put it out for people to buy and return every issue. I don't read The Sun but it's just ridiculous.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/item/1a5e1066-bbb2-464f-9a1a-c03b05ffc127
>I may not have lost direct family members that day, but the people of Liverpool are my extended family. I’ve inherited Hillsborough, just like we all do.

Now this is just going too far to look for sympathy points. This is like that one time people claimed some Jews had inherited special holocaust trauma genes.

>>75230735
Why is it? What's more moronic is letting people police language because you're too scared to tell them to fuck off

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>>75231771
>filename

Fucking kek.

>>75231771
well maybe i wasn't born in liverpool or in the uk but i'm as much scouser as someone that goes to every game and hillsborough hurts me as much as families that lost someone (perhaps even more)

>>75231777
Nothing wrong with the language, but the attack, which is uncalled for, and stupid. Why attack someone for being stupid after they were attacked?

>>75231735
Muh Hillsboro is irritating, but boycotting a paper that just prints lies should be supported, particularly with The Sun's track record.

>it's a racial stereotype of liverpool

Do scousers think they are a race? I had one moaning that they had it worse than actual niggers once.

>>75231829
If you're gonna take that stance you won't have any papers to buy.

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>>75231771
sounds very blut und boden like, fäm

>>75231829
Problem with that is that (literally) all newspapers have printed things that turned out to be false at one time or another.

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>>75231850
None of them are really on The Sun and Kelvin MacKenzie's level though. He's a particularly awful brand of hack.

>>75231847
>>75231850
Some newspapers harm civil society by skewing the debate (through appealing to the common denominator, being excessively partisan or demonisation of groups or individuals). Such rags as the sun do so knowingly, while others try to be more objective and will not knowingly print lies.

>>75231902
That's objectively true though

>>75231926
Watch those goalposts fly!

>>75231902
The notion of Britain ever being Christian enough for that final line to be posted is just bizarre. How old is that article?

>>75231926
Sounds a lot like the guardian

>>75231962
I'm not sure what timeline you live in if you think Britain was never a serious Christian country

>>75231963
Nah, it's not agenda pushing if it's an agenda you agree with.

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This is Muhammad Ali's grandson btw.

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>>75232188

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>michael jackson's kids
I think the mother was black

Ok it's a stupid article but "racism"

Ok, so it's only racism because he has one African grand parent even though it's hardly easy to spot and it's obviously not anything about his skin colour the idiot article is talking about

But when people called Gareth Bale a monkey it's fine because he's white?

>>75230482
t. nigger

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>ENGLEL
>FREE SPEECH

It's a complete smear piece and Barkley and Everton are just using the legal options available to them to get at the Sun in any way possible and as such they will exploit the racist angle to maximum extent.
I don't understand why some scouse mafia hasn't gone after that journo yet.

>>75232175
>>75232188
>>75232202
Poor old nigger was against race mixing as well.

>>75234410
But free speech covers being allowed to say something, it doesn't absolve you of any repercussions i.e. loss of job.

>>75242565
>it doesn't absolve you of any repercussions i.e. loss of job
that's covered by unfair dismissal laws, you piece of shit

>>75242579
It.. literally isn't.

>compare all Scousers to drug dealers
>get suspended due to offending a lot of people
>'wtf that's unfair dismissal'

>>75242646
Yeah exactly. I don't think he did anything wrong but to claim it's an invasion on free speech is silly.

>>75242631
>kick someone out of their job because he said something you don't like
>not unfair dismissal
are you retarded, ahmed? workers have rights in the first world

>>75234410
If an editor of a mainstream Newspapaer in America was deemed to print something racist they would also lose their job

>>75242671
The Sun made the decision. They weren't forced to. They have refused to bow to pressure in the past, so there is obviously more to this situation than you are implying.

>>75242818
the fact that someone is fired doesn't mean the dismissal is fair desu, all this shit later gets negotiated between parts involved

>>75234410
If the editor of a major newspaper in the US insulted a large part of the country, he'd get fired too. Unless he worked for the New York Times and insulted southerners, then they would double his salary.

well this explains why barkley acts like such a nigger

>>75242927
good one

>>75242927
I'm suspending you from /sp/ pending investigation

>>75242927
epic

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lel

>>75243406

I assume the 'much respected community' refers to drug dealers.

>>75242671
when your job is to write things, and you write complete and utter shite why the fuck would you deserve to keep your job?

it would be like a cleaner that just smeared shit on the walls keeping his job

>>75243435
those are some of our best drug dealers you slant eyed cunt

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>>75243406
>much respected community

>>75247722

the way it was worded sounds like they were slamming the attack on the drug dealing community. either that or the nigerians.

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>tfw The Sun is allowed to freely discriminate against my fellow black men

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>>75228554
MacKenzie is a literal mongoloid, gorillas have expressive eyes.

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> The Sun

>>75228554
how is this shit racist? Is it the fact his grandpa was a gorilla from nigeria that makes it racist?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEFEffTw8oI

>>75249219
What's wrong with that? The Tories were an absolute shambles when Blair first came on the scene but were a legitimate alternative by 2010.

To be fair if the Daily Express printed an article who's only point was to call Johnny Evans an idiot and compare him to a donkey while saying all people in West Bromwich are benefits thieves then WBA would be absolutely right to ban the newspaper from their ground.

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If you're a £300k a year columnist who has in the past been an editor of the nation's top selling tabloid then you should be doing the most basic research on someone before a hatchet job. Even Barkley's wikipedia entry mentions his Nigerian heritage. There is even a Sun article which expressly mentions it.

McKenzie has a long history of attacking the working class. Especially those that do financially well or oppose traditional Tory values.

The Sun is a sensationalist, hypocritical rag. Look at it's attacks on the Brass Eye paedo episode and then compare to it's leering constant coverage of Charlotte Church's teenage years.

>>75229557
but it was the fault of the liverpool fans

>>75254242
That Chris Morris thing was from the Daily Star.

A paper that's somehow even worse than The Sun.

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So I'm the only one here who actually knew (or at least suspected) that he was from mixed race ancestry?? Shit I'm from a very homogeneous country, I can't believe there is actually Europeans who didn't at least suspect that he was not fully white.

The fag who wrote that article just knew...

>>75228566
The intend behind that quote are pretty clear to me desu

>>75254988
He definitely looks mixed to me but I can understand that some people might miss it.

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While the whole 1/4 Nigerian angle is the most blatant case of fake outrage manufactured by people with obvious agendas, I can't bring myself to feel sorry for that smug cunt Kelvin McKenzie. Genuinely wish death on the man.

>>75255322
I don't think anyone gives a shit about the gorilla bit really, it's just a way to destroy MacKenzie.