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/f1/ Formula 1 General - Least Deserving Champions Edition

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>Countdown to Bahrain GP sessions:
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>Season standings:
1. Sebastian Vettel 43 points
=. Lewis Hamilton 43 points
3. Max Verstappen 25 points
4. Valtteri Bottas 23 points
5. Kimi Räikkönen 22 points

>News:
Turkish GP to return
Alonso missing Monaco to do the Indy 500. No, seriously, he is. Google it, then apologise for doubting the OP.
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Is it happening again?
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How do points work when a driver misses a race and he has a replacement?

Do they count towards his "seat"/number?

Do they count for Constructors?
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>>75182321
>Do they count towards his "seat"/number?
No.

>Do they count for Constructors?
Yes.
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>>75182321
>Do they count towards his "seat"/number?
>Do they count for Constructors?

It's not like they matter for McLaren anyway
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Hello F1 community. This is my first post in this subreddit. Please go easy on me.

I am kinda new to this subreddit but i am watching F1 for more than 15 years until now. By the way i am 20 years and from Germany so there might be some mistakes in my post.

So with the upcoming Abu Dhabi GP, the last GP of this 2014 season nobody knows if Jenson Button will continue his F1 career with McLaren next season. This lack of knowledge and listening to his last interviews makes me as a huge fan feel really sad because Jenson Button was my favourite driver since he started in 2000 even if my mom told me i should pick a german driver like Michael Schumacher.

I honestly don't know why i chose Jenson and i can't remember it. I was 6 when he started with F1 but for me he had something that nobody other driver had. Since i was not able to speak Jenson as a kid i always called him Jason B. He was my hero and my biggest wish back then was to be a F1 driver like him! Now that i am 20 years old and Jenson is about to leave is a fact which makes me fell really sad and old. Right now as i am writing this i have tears in my eyes. I mean for 15 years all 14 days you spend your weekend with F1 and keep your fingers crossed for one driver. It's like a friend would leave you. I know there is a time for everyone but it's just all of a sudden.. I never expected or thought of Jenson leaving F1 by the end of this season.
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>>75182439

It is a little bit equal to the situation back in winter 2008/2009 when nobody knows if Honda/Brawn will have a team or/and a car for the 2009 season. I was 15 and about to lose my favourite driver but then Brawn came out of nowhere with Jenson Button and Rubens Barrichello as their drivers. In the end we all know that Jenson was able to win the championship and make himself a F1 world champion! So i will stay confident that an equal wonder will happen again and i can watch the Australian GP 2015 with Jenson on the grid!

The last couple of days I rewatched some old F1 races i have on videocassettes like his first win in Hungary 2006 and Brazil 2009 where he won the title. Man this team radio in the end.. I remember that I was singing this song for more than two weeks and everyone was complaining but i was just so happy that my driver won the championship. Maybe you also have someone special in your life and you can understand me? I could write endless stories about my moments with Jenson Button but i think that's the wrong time. As Jenson said in todays press conference: 'Live in the moment!'. Even Eric Boullier said he would prefer Jenson over Kevin Magnussen because of experience, etc. Also Alonso likes Button very much so everything i possible and I will enjoy this race like every other race the last 15 years! :]

Even if Jenson will retire by the end of this year i am so proud that i was your fan and i will follow your journey wherever it goes! But nothing is sure for now.

So to all Jenson Button fans in the world who are reading this what was your favourite Jenson Button moment? Not only in races, can also be interviews or other actions you can remember of Jenson.

I would be happy about every comment or story of Jenson, particulary from another Jenson Button fan!

Let's enjoy this race weekend! Start your engines!

#ForzaJules #KeepFightingMichael
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>>75182439

Can we not do this Reddit spamming shit?

We get it, they're cancerous.
By posting it here we also become cancerous.
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>>75182439
>>75182447

now that is some fine autism
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>>75182448
Not undertanding irony
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>>75182448
I merely cannot contain my excitement at the return of the 2009 World Driver's Champion Mr. Jenson Button MBE to the grid. I'm sure the true Britons would be here with me too if they weren't busy cleaning up the buckets of pre-cum thaat resulted from Alonso's headline.
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Based alonso
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>>75182469

hahahahaha we spammed /f1/ with r/formula1's most aspy shitposts
now /f1/ is a concentrated version of the worst of r/formula1
we've made /f1/ even worse than r/formula1!!!!

SO IRONIC
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>Alonso would rather race in meme car 500 than in a Mclaren

Fucking kek
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>>75182505
Wouldn't you?
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>>75182505
>than in a Mclaren

*at Monaco, the le "jewel in the crown" of F1.
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Based Dave
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Max another podium in Abu Ghraib confirmed
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>>75182524
why don't they list daddies net worth in the career summary?
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So will Alonso die in an Indycar?
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>>75182536
dubs confirm
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>>75182536
>>75182547

Dubs and Alonso enters god mode and wins every F1 race for the rest of the year when he comes back
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>>75182536

Pretty sure that's his plan, m8.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2uOwAFzKi4&t=59
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>>75182555
well fuck

nice going, this is going to be insufferable
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>>75182555
This season might be interesting after all...
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Can /a/lonso do any good at the 500. He has no previous experience with oval racing right?
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I might take the week off work and enter the 500 as well.
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>>75182594

You just turn left
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>>75182594
>94
Is this a sign?
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Post YFW Alonso decides to stay in Indycar and not return to F1
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>>75182635

Post yfw Jezza replaces him at Mclaren
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>>75182278
>Alonso missing Monaco to do the Indy 500
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So is the sub4chan any good?
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>>75182610
Faster and more dangerous than any f1 race
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>tfw it isn't Jenson entering the 500 and hopefully being killed in a horrific accident

This is bullshit.
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>>75182594

Indy is the least oval oval. There's only one line through the corners so passing has to be done on entry which is pretty much how road racing works. The only difference is he will have to draft instead of use DRS
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>>75182665

>Faster and more dangerous than any f1 race
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>>75182635
Would be based, Indy is a much more entertaining series
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>>75182673
F1 average speed: ~130mph
Indy average speed at Indianapolis: ~210 mph
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>>75182697

Yeah not shit, you just turn left constantly

Maybe if they had to turn right they wouldnt be able to go so fast
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>>75182697

>Typical cruising air speed for long-distance commercial passenger flights is 575mph

F1 BTFO
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http://www.racer.com/indycar/item/139540-the-key-to-alonso-s-indy-deal-stefan-wilson
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I could see him doing a year of IndyCar to wind his career down. Probably more fun at this point.
>ie, less pressure/constant media bullshit
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>>75182709
He's correct though.

And have you even actually watched an Indycar race? Most of them are not on ovals.
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GOATlonso
So this will be the first Indy race I will ever see. Is he going to a team that has any hope of competing?
Is it an oval?
How many laps?
How long will the race go on for?
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guess I'm a indy 500 missile now, what is the ETA to race start
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>>75182788
Would be nice to be able to go see him stateside too. Haven't been to an F1 race sice US grand Prix left Indianapolis
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>don't debut in indy and nascar on the same day
what a pussy
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>>75182801
>Yes the team is decent though they've had a couple struggles last weekend
>2.5 mile oval
>200 laps
>It will be a several hour race
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>>75182801
>Indianapolis
>"Is it an oval?"
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>>75182822
>Turn Left for a few hours
>be rich
Amercan Dream is alive and well.
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>>75182824

There's a cutie race track in the middle to be fair
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>implying Alonso won't win Indy 500 easily

Indycar is a fucking joke, second and third rate F1 drivers generally end up doing well. All the guys are old, and the quality of drivers is so low that someone like Alexander Rossi is a "hot prospect".

I truly hope there is a 250 lap battle for the lead featuring Alonso and Montoya, the only two actually exceptional drivers in that series
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>>75182843
Yeah but I mean know your freakin history, Ireland
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>>75182836
>>75182610
>>75182709

I'd expect Britain to be a little less booty blasted since they're going to have their nation's last WDC back in F1.

Who knows though, maybe you're upset since you're Mclarens last fan.
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>>75182824
1. I thought the Indy 500 was just named that because it's Indy car. Is it really a reference to a single track? that's very odd. Would they change the name of the series to whatever track to race on that weekend and the distance covered?
2. Indianapolis has a GP track obviously.
3. Automatically assume any American race is turn-left and you have a bunch of pissing and moaning for a reply.
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>>75182855
Breaking news: A marginal driver in the top series in the world is a hot commodity further down the ladder.

Also for anyone that didn't watch the actual race last year, Rossi backed into the win and coasted across the line on fuel milage. It was his only podium of the year.
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>>75182880
They've been racing the 500 mile race at the Indianapolis oval track since 1911. It's leaps and bounds the most popular and prestigious open wheel race in the country, so that's probably why they just named the series after the thing back in the 90s or whenever.
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>>75182843

>you know remember that Schumi once called Indianapolis a "boring Go-Kart track"

should have just done in the race in the oval, 2bh
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>>75182887

Yeah my point is that people like Alex Rossi or Max Chilton aren't exactly on the same level as Alonso, who is generally agreed to be in the top 3 best F1 drivers of the past 15 or so years

And yea Rossi's win was a meme but he is still hyped up because of it
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>>75182801
You'll love it lad. Best race of the year, every year. Perfect antidiote to Monaco's snorefest.

He's driving for Andretti, one of the best teams in the history of the sport. They've switched to Honda this year and their last race consisted of:
>The Michael Andretti-led squad endured a disastrous day in Southern California, with four DNFs
>sensor issue
>inexplicably lost power on lap 78
>suffered an obvious engine failure
>stalled
>It was something electrical

But he'll be in the same team as Takuma "BASED as fuck" Sato. Also Montoya is doing the race as a one-off. So hoping for ALO vs JPM too.
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Hamilton = Tiger Woods
Alonso = Sergio Garcia
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>>75182843
>>75182867
>This is a race track

wtf America?
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He'll probably wreck the car at some point in the testing/practice (almost everyone does, it goes on for like a fucking month), hope he doesn't get spooked and bolt.
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>>75182709
If you turn right at Indy your average speed would be "0".
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>>75182932
>"that was the best crash I ever did"
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>ALO will win the Triple Crown
>F1 Monaco GP winner
>Indy500 winner
>Le Meme winner
BEST
OF
ALL
POSSIBLE
TIMELINES
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will he cum in indycars?
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>>7518291
>they are like other atheletes from their own countries but in different sports
Terrible analogy anon
Hamilton's career = Schumacher in 2002 (Lucky to be in the right place at the right time and no challenge)
Alonso's career = Schumacher in 1999 (Absolutely no luck but everything he earned was hard fought)
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>>75182959
I will
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>>75182919
>>75182985
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>>75182919
Golf is not a sport, though.
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>>75182988
If you shat in the fuel tank during a pit stop how long would the car run for you reckon? Also would consistency effect this, like a runny shit I imagine would mix better than some solid lump right
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fucking anime posters

quit posting these images drawn by sweaty palmed chinks

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>Burgers claim Indycar is harder than F1
>The last edition of their most important race was won by a rookie rejected by F1 because too shit and too poor

Pottery
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This is bullshit. If Alonso wants to race oval, he should pick the best track.
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>>75183024
Lift and coasting literally won the Meme 500
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>>75183002
I don't think anything solid would affect it unless it dissolves
but the runny shit might cause problems with the fuel flow or if it gets to the cylinders
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>>75183014
Tell us about that grime music you blacks like
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>Alonso at Indy 500

DOES THAT MEAN THE BIONIC BUTTON WILL RETURN TO F1 FOR MONACO??
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>>75183046
>RACE
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Here's a preview of the Indy 500
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14J3esvACe4
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>>75182923

When America started racing motorcars the only place we had where the cops couldn't run us off was a nice farm with a Horse racing track.

Need I remind you that No one bitches about horse racing being turn left.
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>>75183046

FTFY
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>>75183102
would watch/10
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Jenson was a great Champion, he drove masterfully that year
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>the major news is that Alonso will not drive in Monaco and not that he will race in the Indy 500.
How can Americans EVER recover?
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>>75183102
way too complicated

turn 3 and 4 aren't the same as the first two

no potential
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>>75183102

>McLaren's face when
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>>75182635
Post YFW Jezza does better than Alonso, and it turns out the car and engine aren't crap, it's just Alonso being past it
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Someone have a list with all the drivers for that race?
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Reubens Barichello did decent when he raced in IndyCar for a few years. Ovals are an adjustment, it's a big momentum game and there are a lot of forces in play not relevant in road racing.
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>>75183080

>Half-mile track
>30 degree banking
>150,000 seat coliseum
>12 second lap times

It's literally the only good thing about NASCAR.
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>ovals
>not equilateral triangles
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>tfw Alonso will win Indy 500
>tfw next year he teams up with Montoya and Porsche and wins le Le mans

Post yfw.
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>>75183187

>2017
>still no star of David race track
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>>75183187
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pocono_Raceway
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>>75182635

>clarkson

It still hurts.
I usually enjoy things people bitch about, I guess you could say I'm easily pleased. But their new show... Let's put it this way, it's not great. I have watched the special and all the previous episodes before it. The army episode was an unfunny disaster, their running """jokes""" (celebrity dies, "does that mean he is not coming on then", the american) are all horrible.

And somehow, it feels even more scripted and robotic than top gear. What I want to say is if even I think something is bad, then you know it's really fucking bad.
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>>75183226

Watch new Top Gear instead, it's actually pretty good now that the ginger is kill.
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Lads, 9th wedding anniversary and wifey won't put out, what do?
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>>75183219
That's scalene
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>>75183243
Close enough, triangle cunts.
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>>75183226
It just kinda felt like a bad imitation of Top Gear.
Like as if they were trying too hard to be themselves
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>2 days to go

feels comfy lads
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>>75183187
>>75183219
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lausitzring
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>>75183262
Well actually... Never mind.
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>>75182555
someone cap it
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wait
who will replace alonso
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>>75183242
Fap next to her in bed
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>>75183242
We're talking about Alonso entering the 500 here, I think you should be more concerned about that.
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>Alonso, Montoya, Kubica in 2018 24h Le Mans

You heard it here first.
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How is the Sauber shaping up against McLaren in the straights?
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>>75183423

>implying it won't be wobbler
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>>75183364
She's sleeping out on the sofa mate ;(
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>>75183087
yeah but horse racing is fucking boring too
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>>75183387
You mean there's more important things than pussy in this world?
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>>75183431
Terribly.
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>>75183437
Hmm.... fap.... on her?

Probably better not
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>>75183423
>After the Prologue, I have decided to interrupt my racing program with the ByKolles team in LMP1. Therefore, I will not take part in the upcoming WEC Silverstone opening round and in the other WEC races. It has been a hard decision to step down and so lose the opportunity to join such a challenging and competitive Championship, but I hope this will not be a definitive goodbye.
>Robert
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>>75183461
I thought of that but I'd like to keep my marriage intact, thanks.
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>>75183345
Heiki
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>>75183469
Yeah good call.
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>>75178737

1. Bahrain - Bottas slams into the side of Hamilton and damages his car, to the point where he's losing 1 second per lap, which fucks up his race.

2. China - Engine/ERS failure means he can't set a time in qualifying, starts in 22nd. Then Nasr runs into him on the first lap, taking off his front wing, which gets lodged under his car, and again causes damage which limits his speed. If you don't believe the crash was Nasr's fault then watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Mv-20D2xlY

3. Russia - Engine/ERS failure means he can't participate in Q3, so has to qualify in 10th. Impeccable driving sees him rise to 2nd behind betaberg, but then the team tells him he has a water pressure issue so he has to slow down. By the way he was faster than Rosberg in Friday and Saturday practice at this race, so without issues he probably would have qualified on pole and won the race.

4. Baku - Engine mode issue affects both Merc drivers but Nico is lucky because he happened to have learned about this mode recently. Lewis had not been told this information recently so he was hampered and there was nothing he could do but try all the switches on his wheel (which he did).

5. Belgium - Mercedes put in a new engine which relegates Lewis to the back of the grid because his 5 allocated engines have already been used.

6. Singapore - Has a hydraulics fault which fucks up his practice and then hampers the car's performance in qualy and the race.

7. Malaysia - Engine blows up, on the way to an almost certain victory.

So at least 7 of his races were fucked up due to issues that he had no control over.

I guess it's okay though because Lewis has three world championships and Nico only has one which he only won through luck. Only one of those drivers will be remembered through the ages and it isn't Betaberg. :D
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>>75182555
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>>75183480

Actually Australia can be included too because Nico rammed into Lewis which tore off Lewis front-wing, which he had to have replaced.

Another race Lewis would have won.
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A quick reminder: Montoya will be racing in Indy 500 this year.
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>>75183480
das rite!

lewie wuz sabbotaged by dose evil whities who din want no strong african winning no auto race

we wuz robbed nigga! we wuz robbed!

he need to give over his title as repahrations to poor lewie
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>>75183520

Take that shit tier meme back to Facebook where you got it from.

Then think about what you've done.

We'll be here when you're ready to apologise.
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>>75182815
this
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>>75183480
Bullshit on Baku.

Rules state driver must drive unaided. Nico does his homework and troubleshoost his machine. LewLew fucks about with his popularity and got taken to school over it.

He fucked himself on Baku and since then has done his homework. He learned his lesson there.
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>>75183535
I got it from Instagram, so "no".
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>>75183480

You also forgot

8. the evil gods of japanese water set a plot with the whities not to perfectly dry Lewis' grid spot not allowing a proper start

9. hue monkey and fia plotting against him not adding some few extra laps mid-race to the Brazil GP thus allowing Verstappen to catch up on Rosberg

10. the ultimate 4th reich sabotage between the "german" Mercedes team and Vettel not to pass the "german" driver and our WDC Rosberg in Abu Dhabi
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>>75183582
>You also forgot

He also forget every problem Nico had during the season.
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>>75182905
i would kill to see f1 race on the indy oval
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What's with the retarded video director they have now? He misses so much. I feel like I miss half the shit that goes on in the race.

They never even showed Giovinazzi's crash from Hulkenbergs perspective, or Magnussens first lap, which was pretty neat.
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>>75183604

Is that a threat?
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>>75183604
I'm fairly sure the current Pirlellis can't handle these long turns at highspeed at all.
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>>75183480
>fuck up engine setting in Baku
>fuck up a million starts
>fuck up relationship with team by threatening to quit like a little baby
>fuck up Baku
>ignore Monaco corner no penalty
>ignore Brazil corner no penalty
>slam into Rosberg no penalty (at least once, arguably twice)
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>>75183450

yea, dick
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>>75182673
It's literally true.
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>>75182801
How are you this oblivious to what the Indy 500 is?
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>>75183102
>tfw you realise how much effort was put into this photoshop
I am pretty sure that the image on the right is just the image on the left flipped, but you have made so many tweaks by hand.

- If it's a flip then all the signage (and timing board) on the right would be back-to-front, so you've flipped that all by hand (apart from the small Rolex signs at the very end of the straight, which you've missed)
- And you photoshopped out the cars of course.
- The people on the terraces above the pit lane (centre of the image) have been moved around. The people on the lower terrace on the left-hand image are on the upper terrace in the right-hand one.
- The image on digital screen in the centre has also been flipped by hand; in a straight image-flip, it would be like a mirror image.
- The ambulance and vehicles in the left-hand image (near the left-hand edge) have been removed from the right-hand image.
- The cranes (one in the centre, one near the left-hand corner) have also been removed from the other image.
- No pit crew on the right-hand image.

Some of the differences make me think they are different photos, perhaps taken at different times... but I don't think this can be right. There are too many similarities. The people in the grandstands are mostly identical, save a few edits. Look at the trackside fencing - in the right-hand image it looks photoshopped. With a clone stamp tool most likely.

Whether it was you or somebody else, somebody put a lot of time into photoshopping this image.
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>>75183480
>>75183555

What could be said for Baku could also be said for his SHIT starts. By the 3rd race of the season it was apparent that both Mercedes drivers were having trouble with the starts and Rosberg immediately set about trying to fix this issue (simulator practice + demoing new experimental gloves). IIRC it wasn't until the Japanese GP that Hamilton tried out the new gloves and even then he proceeded to shit himself on the grid.

Lewis had plenty of bad luck but he was also completely complacent, which may have been fine if it weren't for Rosberg working his ass off to be competitive.

Also, I still maintain that by not wrecking Rosberg in Abu Dhabi Hamilton proved he doesn't have a GOAT tier mentality.
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>>75178737

Not to mention that in the race where Hamilton has his engine failure, Rosberg was pushed back to P8 in the first corner by Vettel crashing into him.
He would have won the race but because of this he only finished P3.
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>>75183660
You photoshopped this picture, didn't you
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>>75183423
I'd like to see a 3 car 2 team P1 battle again at Le Mans but I doubt it'll happen.
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>>75183660

I also redid the shadows :^)
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>>75182909
Literally no one would ever assume that Maximum Chill and Alex Martini Rossi are even remotely close to Alonso's skill, and pretty much everyone would have the assumption that any Indy driver on average is less skilled than any F1 driver, but winning the 500 is still super difficult and prestigious so anyone who actually wins deserves some meme praise in my opinion.
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>IndyCar is being recognized as vastly more entertaining and fun to watch than F1

best timeline
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>>75183619
yes
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>>75183533
>being this mentally cuckolded by the existence of other races
I'm glad I'm not as much of a cuck as you

>>75183555
>Nico does his homework
Do you perform these mental gymnastics because you can't accept facts?

>Mercedes then provided a fuller explanation. They said that Rosberg was in the wrong mode because he changed the switch, and then changed it back. Hamilton's was a different issue.
>A spokesman said: ""Nico had made a change during the race that caused the issue. So when told it was an issue with the mode, as permitted by the FIA, he switched back out of it.
>"Lewis had the setting from the start of the race and it was not obvious that this setting was causing the problem.
>"Fundamental problem is on our heads as it was a configuration not working properly, not the driver's fault. But the radio rules complicated things drastically: without this, it would have been solved immediately."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/formula-1/2016/06/19/how-did-nico-rosberg-win-in-baku-and-why-was-lewis-hamilton-left/

Sorry but you've been BTFO by factual information. :D
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>>75183480
>Nico is lucky because he happened to have learned about this mode recently. Lewis had not been told this information recently


>>75183737
>mental gymnastics
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>>75183660
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>>75183737
awwwwh poor lewlew needs help operating his car, guess we should give him the title out of pity
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>>75183594
Which don't add up to anywhere near the problems that Lewis had.

>>75183582
>being racist
So I'm guessing you don't support any Italian football teams since they basically all have black players? Do you stop supporting Italy when Balotelli plays?

>>75183632
>fuck up engine setting in Baku
So you invent fictions because you can't accept reality?

>Mercedes then provided a fuller explanation. They said that Rosberg was in the wrong mode because he changed the switch, and then changed it back. Hamilton's was a different issue.
>A spokesman said: ""Nico had made a change during the race that caused the issue. So when told it was an issue with the mode, as permitted by the FIA, he switched back out of it.
>"Lewis had the setting from the start of the race and it was not obvious that this setting was causing the problem.
>"Fundamental problem is on our heads as it was a configuration not working properly, not the driver's fault. But the radio rules complicated things drastically: without this, it would have been solved immediately."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/formula-1/2016/06/19/how-did-nico-rosberg-win-in-baku-and-why-was-lewis-hamilton-left/

Good to know that the only way Betaberg losers can support the idea that he deserved to win a WDC is by believing in fictional narratives haha.
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>>75183804
it's the """british""" guy again

don't listen to his negroid propaganda

hide posts
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>>75183827
why did the people that stole lewis car take a picture of themselves posing with it?
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>>75183804
>So I'm guessing you don't support any Italian football teams since they basically all have black players? Do you stop supporting Italy when Balotelli plays?

I was answering along the same lines as the other Lewis' cocksucker implyed.
Also Balotelli and Ogbonna got BTFO out of the team so there's no problem about that :^)
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>>75183827
/r/-ing "Hide X posts" image for the """"British"""" poster
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>>75183804
thats just mercedes sticking up for lewlew because he's the one who has to face the public, not the engineers. In the end, its lewis' responsibility to operate his car, thats why the radio rules exist, his ignorance is his own fault
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>>75183661
Lewis had some poor starts and crashing the car in Baku qualifying was entirely his fault

But he suffered far more mechanical issues than Rosberg AND had people crashing into him more than Rosberg (Bottas and Nasr both fucking up Hamilton's car)

>Also, I still maintain that by not wrecking Rosberg in Abu Dhabi Hamilton proved he doesn't have a GOAT tier mentality.
Hamilton was trying, so what else was he meant to do?
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>sean "bull"
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>>75183450
Yes, anal.
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>>75183841
Isn't is quite hard to be both a racist and an Italian? A man can only take so much cognitive bias.
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>>75183661
he probably would have ended up wrecking himself, then nico would win anyway, I'm sure merc wouldn't be too happy and ham would SOL if they dropped him
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>>75183677
>>75183773
I'm just an amateur Photoshopper and I just noticed that a lot of work had been put into that image

>>75183700
Damn. I'm guessing you put at least a couple of hours of work into this.
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>>75183876
>14

"no"
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>had to kill a spiderbro
fuck women and their fear of spiders
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>>75183750
Toto Wolff said that Nico had done an engine switch change recently, but the Mercedes spokesman I quoted said that Nico actually caused the problem himself during the race (which is why he was able to figure out how to change it back) whereas Lewis' problem existed before the race.

Yes, you're employing mental gymnastics my friend :D

>>75183775
>>75183844
>Lewis' car is fucked up from the start and Nico's isn't
Again you need mental gymnastics to justify the idea that betaberg won this WDC """"""fair and square""""""? Okay kid ;)

>>75183827
Yeah I'm British. You think I'm not British because I don't support Lewis just because of his race?

How insecure and pathetic do you have to be to be mentally cucked by the fact that this guy is a different race to you?

Did a black guy fuck your girlfriend or something?

>>75183843
What "hide X posts" image?

>>75183876
Nice
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>>75183841
>I was answering along the same lines as the other Lewis' cocksucker implyed.
No you deliberately made up fictional problems to try and mock the legitimate problems - and you included some racist comments (or at least, racism was implied) because, I guess, you're racist.
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>>75183954
Got a chubby spider just chilling on the wall at the moment. Even after reincarnation Nick can still not lose that weight
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>>75183967
>What "hide X posts" image?

>being this new

>inb4 "Hurr durr, I was only pretending to be retarded
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>>75183999
kek
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>wake up
>see Alonso trending on Twitter
>assume he's retiring or maimed in a test somewhere
>click it
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>>75183954

>mother once found a fucking tarantula just chilling on top of the car
>in athens
>in greece

Can you fucking believe this shit?
Did it follow an australian on holiday or something?
Mother was scared as fuck (and who wouldn't, to be honest, we usually get tiny ones here) so badass grandma killed the unholy beast with a broom.
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So...would it be good or bad for IndyCar if he wins the Indy 500? Kind of pulled both ways.
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>>75183996
>No you deliberately made up fictional problems to try and mock the legitimate problems

Yeah, I'm happy you eventually get the sense of my post.

>and you included some racist comments

Hyperbole, ask /lit/ for further details
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>>75184057
goood for exposure.
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>>75184005
Oh I get it, the images that say "don't respond to X poster", and you're asking somebody else to create this for you because you're a fat lazy fag who can't do anything for himself, hahahahahaha
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>>75184057
It would be a lot of publicity, and honestly impressive considering he's never raced an oval
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>>75183843
got you covered ameribro
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>>75184057
Good one-off exposure but for the sake of drawing in an international audience for more, it'd be best if he was competitive but didn't win over the regulars on his first attempt.
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>>75184057
>>75184090

Good for exposure and good for getting EXPOSED.

Although if Mclaren actually ends up putting together a yearly 500 entry or something similar that would be the perfect way to kick it off.
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>>75184114
nice
but needs more lewis stuff
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>>75184071
>claiming i didn't originally get the sense of your post when i immediately recognised you were being mocking which is why i called you out for racism
But y'know, just invent fantasies if it helps you sleep better I guess? Do you always invent fictional narratives to avoid reality?

>implying i don't know the meaning of the word hyperbole
I'm older than 13 so yes I do know the meaning of that word

>me calling you racist is hyperbolic
You said "the evil gods of japanese water set a plot with the whities", which is racist, because you wouldn't say that about a white driver. You're essentially mocking him for not being white.
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>>75184114
no roscoe/10
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>Stefan Wilson gave up his seat for Alonso

Good lad desu.
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>>75184049
You could have just sat on it, Nick

>>75184057
Alex Rossi winning last year already exposed IndyCar drivers as second-rate.

Montoya won it in 2015, at age 39, 15 years after last driving in Indy, and 9 years after his last season in open-wheel open cockpit single seaters.

Mansell at age 40 nearly won in 1993, and the actual winner, Emmo, was 49, and retired from F1 13 years prior.

IndyCar is eternally BTFO
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>Mclaren wants out of Honda contract
>contract says Honda will supply engines for a Mclaren race team until 2029
>join indycar
>use Honda engines
>switch to Mercedes PUs for F1
>immediately becomes apparent that Mclaren's chassis was also shit.
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>>75184151
>Alex Rossi winning last year already exposed IndyCar drivers as second-rate.

It was the only race that Rossi was even close to the front all year, he came out of nowhere because he fuel milaged his car to the max at the end. That didn't really prove anything.
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>>75184136
>thinking racism in /F1/ is unacceptable
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>>75184148
Sorry we lost the brother of Justin Wilson, the Indycar driver
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>>75184114
Thanks Britbro. Good stuff.
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>>75184148

Stefan is offering Alonso as a sacrifice to the racing gods to try and bring his brother back.
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>>75184189
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>>75184136

>Implying Hamilton didn't brought up racism at first to cover up his mistakes
>Implying you can recognize an hyperbole
>Implying you make sense
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>>75184203
don't feed the racetraitor signor

he'll get his just desserts, in one way or the other
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>>75184203
Stop taking the b8 m8
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>>75184212
>>75184215

B-but it's fun senpais
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Rossi winning the 500 last year at half speed nuked my sides

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7BZrwSLSZE
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How are the chances of Alonso winning it?

I mean, does he have a decent car or another lawnmower Mclelren Hondshit?
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>>75184241
From what Indyfags have told me, it's """decent"""
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>>75184241
Decent car, but even if he's up to speed and figures out the oval drafting, it's not like F1 where you know that only 3 or 4 cars have a shot at winning. Field is closer...but there's also more attrition.
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>check starting times for bahrain
>all good

Finally, I can watch it live.
Not fucking very early in the morning or something.
So far I watched both qualis and races on reruns later those days and couldn't open twitter to not spoil it.
Don't care about fp cause I'm not that autistic.

Well, I did watch the first fp of the season to see the new cars in action.
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>>75184171
>using racism to discount a driver and his achievements when your national sport has over twice as many black players as white players
o i am laffin

>>75184203
>Implying Hamilton didn't brought up racism at first to cover up his mistakes
Can you tell me when this has ever happened? To my knowledge the only time he has talked about racism is when butthurt Alonso fans blacked up at a race to mock the rookie that was too good for their beloved Fernando

>y-y-y-y-y-y-y-you don't make sense bro!
What a great "argument"!

>>75184212
>race traitor
Get a load of this leader of the Aryan Union

I'd love to know what happens when you have to deal with non-whites in your professional life, do you just piss yourself? Wait, I'm assuming you have a job, when there's a very high chance you don't. :D

>>75184215
>p-p-p-p-p-people who aren't selective racists like me are baiting!
>selective, because i only use it to discount certain sportspeople i don't like, yet i still follow sports and support teams that have tons of non-whites players!
Okay kid ;)

>>75184221
Getting BTFO is fun? Is that because you like taking dicks up your ass?
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>>75184241
I reckon he'll rock up and win it, Alexander Rossi won the race in his rookie 500 and Montoya won in his first season back in Indycar after like 15 years. Fernando In the Andretti car from which I've read is supposed to be decent/good he has a pretty decent chance. Fernando is still probably one of the best drivers in the world so I really wouldn't be surprised if he won, I expect him to do well.
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Say no to racism.
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>>75184226
Kek, if it's about fuel saving, Lelonso should be a master by now.
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Time for an emotional Sky F1™ Jenson Button Glory race at the 2017 Monaco Grand Prix.
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>>75184169
Bit shit your lot desu. Oval lads not that good compared to other catergories. crashes seem fun though
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I dislike Poois as much as anyone else but please get rid of /pol/ in /f1/
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>>75184296
das rite!
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>>75184309

>qualifies like P16
>taken out or crashes first corner
>engine blows up halfway through the race

I honestly don't think Button would even be a good choice. He's done no training or running in the new cars. He hasn't tested them at all so it would be pretty risky to throw him into a car and hope he does well in Monaco
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>>75184268
Okay, I'll bite

>Can you tell me when this has ever happened? To my knowledge the only time he has talked about racism is when butthurt Alonso fans blacked up at a race to mock the rookie that was too good for their beloved Fernando

>what is Monaco 2011

>>selective, because i only use it to discount certain sportspeople i don't like, yet i still follow sports and support teams that have tons of non-whites players!

>implying we dislike him for his color rather than his behavior

>Is that because you like taking dicks up your ass?

>Calling people out on ""racism"" yet being homophobic

Kys your self
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F1 is shit. There's never any competition. It's usually between 3 drivers and most of the time 2 of them are team mates.
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>>75184325
Don't you dare even suggest that!

He's going to run a RELENTLESS race and finish in P12
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>inb4 Buemi takes Alonso's seat
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>>75184341
It's Schadenfreude
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>>75184341
t. Mitch Evans
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>>75184341
Alright who let the hori get on the computer?
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>>75184281
The 500 is at least half dumb luck. Rossi won on a batshit fuel strategy, he didn't have top-tier pace. It's very rare for someone to dominate from the poll and run away with it just because of the ridiculous amount of factors outside of the drivers' control. If he's able to take good care of the car he'll have a shot. If he can grasp the different forces at play compared to road racing he'll have about as good of a shot as Scott Dixon, maybe a bit less considering the Andretti cars are probably more prone to DNF for mechanical/electrical issues.
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>>75184241

With Indy there's usually only 12 or so cars with the pace to win and of those only 5 or 6 will be in the position to challenge in the closing quarter of the race. Alonso is stepping into a top-tier seat and if his reputation is any good then he will absolutely be one of those 12 and hopefully one of those 6 as the race comes to close.

There will be a lot of "muh first oval" talk but he's on a 6 car team with tons of data sharing and he has a week of testing to run with his teammates and get used to it. Plus Honda was the faster car at Indy last year and is rumored to be again this year.
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>>75184351
he'd actually deserve it
but he will more likely get Palmer's seat (where he could do better in as well)
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>>75184341
>watching any race for racing itself
>not masturbating to the engineering behind
leave desu senpai
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>>75184377
Keep the racism on /b/ Nigel.
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>>75183053

Which is why he is doing it, he's had tons of practice doing that in the McHonda with cheese
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>>75184388
>he didn't have top-tier pace

He had fastest lap and led earlier in the race, that said he still would've finished like 10th without the strategy.
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>>75183462

Holy shit it's gonna be punished Kubica isn't it.
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>>75184418
Did the islanders sober up to kick off about this at all?
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>>75184447
hang on wrong lad doubt the
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>>75184461
>me in general
Hang on wrong picture lad. Doubt they care too much about henno*

What does hori even mean? Don't know anything about kiwi land apart from sheep, hobbits & mclaren
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>>75184325
>disregarding the power of RELENTLESS

Wet Monaco Grand Prix, AMX leading into final lap, Jenson Button McLaren miracle charge through the pack, the Honda PU upgrade has come at just the right time, it's shiftin up and down real smooth, Jenson button has his slicks activated! He's stuck to the track, he's got all the grip! AMX's tyres losing grip he's sliding around all over the place! Last lap Jenson is right on AMX now, they blast through tunnel, AMX is on the radio to his engineer! He's losing grip and the backmarker 2 seconds infront is creating a lot of turbulent air while Jenson is RELENTLESSLY gaining on him, hot on his heels as they go through the bus stop chicane and tabac, the crowd are roaring as they zoom through Louis Chiron, they are on their feet cheering this vintage Button drive! and..OH NO WHATS THIS AMX, AMX HAS SLIPPED ON A WET PATCH AND CRASHED INTO THE SWIMMING POOL, OH MY WORD, JENSON BUTTON TAKES THE LEAD ON THE ULTIMATE LAP OF THE 2017 MONACO GRAND PRIX AND WINS THE NEW MCLAREN HONDA AN UNTHINKABLE MAIDEN GRAND PRIX VICTORY. I DAVID CROFT IN ALL MY YEARS BROADCASTING AND WATCHING F1 HAVE NEVER SEEN A DRIVE AS GOOD AS THAT BY ANYONE, MR JENSON BUTTON TAKE A BOW.
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>>75184444
four same number
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>>75184489
>implying AMX will ever lead a grand prix again
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>>75184309
I wonder if he fucked her
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>yfw Rosberg comes back for a cheeky GP because Button isn't fit
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>>75184513
would he run #1 or #6?
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>>75184519

I want to say #6 Mclaren will never have a #1 again, but #1 would be perfect for maximum Lewis triggering
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>>75184513
>he crashes into lewis as well
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>>75184513
>implying Rosberg would be more fit than Jenson "muh triathalons" Button when all he's been doing is playing house with his wife and wife's kid
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Nobody gives a damn about /mindycar/, least of all 'Murricans. Alonso's just doing this race to try and kill himself.
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>>75184551
>implying jenson hasn't been spending his retirement snorting coke off of hookers arses in japan and shagging any girl who looks at him twice and got a serious cock injury
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>>75184585
Yeah but when meme drivers win we get to all laugh at Americans some more innit
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>>75184519
I'd race with #1 just to have done it once
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>>75184338
Racism and homophobia are different. Why shouldn't I be homophobic?

>Monaco 2011
Yeah it was a clear joke - so basically you admit there has never been such a time when he has claimed actual racism then?

>implying we dislike him for his color rather than his behavior
Then how come basically all the comments here are focusing on his race? Here's a selection:

>>75183533
>>75183827
>>75184114
>>75184171
>>75184319

And you claim your criticisms are TOTALLY not racist, they're only focused on his character!

What sort of mental gymnastics do you have to do to believe this?
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>>75184585

I had to google to learn what it is.

The only thing I knew, because it was mentioned here once, was that some driver died and his little kid started karting or something. Gave me the feels.
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seen Button race enough, would rather have Rosberg come out of retirement
doubtful though with his neck and all
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>>75184683
You shouldn't be on 4chan.
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>>75184683
>Why shouldn't I be homophobic?
Not him, but why shouldn't I be racist? How is it different?
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>>75184686
it's not like the McHonda will even make 3/4 race distance before shitting itself

Monaco is probably the best race for an unprepared driver (physically, that is)
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>>75184683
why are you here

fuck back off to reddit
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>>75184702

Pretty sure everything on 4chan violates Sharia Law, Muhammad, you shouldn't be here either.
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>>75183999
It's probably pregnant. Get ready for hundreds of tiny spiders to be everywhere.
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@75184683
no (You) for you, champ
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>giving him (you)s
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>>75184683
You have to go back...

I think /r/formula1 will deal with your special needs better
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>>75184626

Well that shouldn't be a problem because Indycar is a meme series filled with F1 rejects (Sato, Chilton, Rossi, Bourdais, JPM), no-hopers (Everybody Else) and pay-drivers that shouldn't even hold a license (Ex: Sage Karam, Gabby Chaves, Jack Harvey).

>>75184685

My point stands that Indycar is a joke that is as niche as niche gets in racing, wit the front row of seat probably on offer for cofins considering how old the fanbase is.
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>>75184747
TJ Kirk isn't a cuck anymore
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This weekend,
Bahamarain,
Ricciardo,
a podium.
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>>75184841
nope, RB will be 5/6 at best until PU upgrades
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>>75184841
no
ricci dies in first corner
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>>75184702
Why? Because I don't discount a sportsperson due to his race?

By your logic most of /sp/ should not be here, because half of the discussion on /sp/ is about black footballers, black handegg players, black NBA players, black MMA fighters, etc, etc.

>>75184710
Because homos are fags.

>>75184721
>>75184747
>le fuck off back to le leddit hehe xdxdxdxdxd
Truly the preserve of "men" who have run out of arguments. :D
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>>75184841

>Ricky
>getting a podium this year

no mate
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>>75184782
>Cuckmany in charge of deciding who's a cuck
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>>75184854
>>75184858
>>75184878
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Ricciardo in IndyCar when? Aussies seems to do well here (Will Power, Scott Dixon), and he's about their level.
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>>75184854
please don't remind me about their anemic engine, it's depressing
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>>75184902
ricciposter is the most tolerable gimmickposter.
he just has an unhealthy obsession with some bogancunt
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>>75184873
You can stop posting now Nicolas, we all get just how much you love your brother.
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>>75184928
when he's 38 years old and a 4x F1 WDC and looking for a new toy to play with.
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>>75182321
The new guy and the team get the points.
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>>75184977
Never gonna happen in other words
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>>75185005
My dubs said otherwise
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>>75184977
I'm liking this timeline
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Returning to Germany for the sake of it next year is a mistake because Germans don't care about attending Grands Prix and both of their circuits are non-conductive to good racing.

Discuss.
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>>75184114
Perfect.
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>>75185122
Nordschleife meme GP, screencap this.
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>>75184686
>pats/Nico
Elder God tier taste
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>>75184114
London was a mistake
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>>75182278
>HIll
>Undeserving champ

Your pleb is showing
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>>75185122

Hockenheim might be a shit track but it produces good races all the time

Nurburgring would be a good track if there was a total redesign of sector 1. I agree that it isn't conductive to good F1 racing as it is quite narrow and the only real overtake opportunities are le DRS straights
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>>75184585
Speak for yourself, not all americans cuck
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>>75185164
the ultimate carbaby

nearly as bad as mansell
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>>75185178
Second only to Schumi in 94 and 95.
22 race victories.
43 podiums.
20 poles.

Hardly a one season carbabby like Button and Hunt.
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>>75185168
>total redesign of sector 1
they should turn it into a flatout left right kink.
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>>75185191
>Hardly a one season carbabby like Button and Hunt.

That's why he's third :^)
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>>75184956
Nah I'm just an F1 fan mate.
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Why are so many British champions so shit lads?

>Button
>Hill
>Mansell
>Hunt
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There's literally nothing wrong with oval racing, they're about endurance and consistency. They focus on different thing than F1 racing where you can just win by throwing more money at your engine.
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>>75185199
Not Jaques?

By that reckoning he gets third.

Oh wait I forgot, you're ABE :^)
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>>75185232
>There's literally nothing wrong with oval racing
great start to a great post
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>>75185210
>being jealous that we have more champions than you
>inb4 "b-b-but muh winner/driver ratio is higher than yours"
>not being able to get as many drivers into F1 as us
>inb4 "b-b-but getting drivers into F1 is easy, just look at pay drivers!"
>implying that basically any of the most successful British drivers have been pay drivers (only shit ones like Joe Lee and Palmer have)
>also forgetting that Alonso, Schumacher, and Niki Lauda all started off as pay drivers

Britain is the most successful country in F1 by basically any measure: most F1 drivers, most WDCs, most WDC winners, most WCCs, most WCC winners, etc.
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>>75185232

>There's literally nothing wrong with oval racing

The families of Dan Wheldon & Justin Wilson would like to have a word with you about that.
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>>75185274
>Britain is the most successful country in F1 by basically any measure:

least deserving world champions
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>>75185274

Schumacher wasn't a pay-driver though. He was scouted by Mercedes, ran with their Group C program as a "Junior Driver" and got picked up as a one-off replacement for the Jordan team on the advice of the head of Ford of Germany.
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>>75185274
In the modern era (post-75') Brazil and Germany have been far more successful.
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>>75185232
Then why isn't Honda winning, Juan?
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>>75184765
show me on the doll where IndyCar touched you
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>>75185348
One of them turned right and killed his dad, have some empathy.
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>>75185386
F
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>>75182594
>Can /a/lonso do any good at the 500.

Could? In time, sure, but his chances are pretty low due to the fact he'll be a n00b in the car, and not used to having to actually draft with and around other cars while doing 200+.
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What's the name of that poo in loo F1 knock off? For the life of me I can't remember it. I need to know for reasons.

>>75185470
I mean, when senna tested an indycar he was way faster then regular drivers on his first bit of oval running. I don't think that Fernando's gonna have too many problems. I also wouldn't be surprised if he has a private test at a smaller oval to figure out oval racing.
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>>75185247
Underrated. Even if you are an annoying git usually.
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>>75182673
/turnleft/ has faster average speeds on most of their tracks than F1....and they're driving bricks on wheels.
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>>75185548
MRF challenge?
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>>75185569
No, it was that goofy yellow thing that the wheels fell off of.
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>>75184765
>anyone who doesn't drive in F1 shouldn't be allowed near a car

holy shit dude, everyone recognizes that Formula 1 is top dog, pipe down
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>>75182709
>Yeah not shit, you just turn left constantly

At 200+ MPH...throughout the entire race.
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>>75185548
>I also wouldn't be surprised if he has a private test at a smaller oval to figure out oval racing.

It's not the matter of going straight and turning left that the learning curve would come from, I'm sure he can handle that, it's learning how to navigate and pass in the draft. They'll get all of that in testing at Indy. If he's not coming over to race on the other ovals, which are differently shaped, it doesn't really matter.
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>>75184585
As funny as the idea of Alonso being put that far into despair is, you should kick the chair.
Indycar is quite enjoyable.
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>>75183660
it's pretty fucking sad that this will probably never be posted again whereas low-effort shops of F1 driver's heads onto Simpsons characters will be posted umpteen times
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>>75182754
>For Alonso, Indy may be a daunting task since he's never been on an oval, but at least he'll have a chance to be competitive for the first time in 2017.
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>Indy Lights engine. Indy Lights!
>AAAARGH
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>>75184585

go away crapwagon.com
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>>75184513
Much rather him than Jason Burton.
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>>75184151
Mansell did not win the Indy 500, he won the CART Driver's championship in 1993. Newmann Haas was the team to beat that year.
He's also the only man to ever hold both the F1 WDC and Indycar titles at the same time.
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>>75185635
ah, the TINSI-I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGE1WUXS-UY
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>>75185295
Any criticism you can make of British drivers can be equally applied to any other drivers

>Button only won because of a dominant car!
You can say exactly the same thing about Schumacher - and of course that Ferrari team literally focused everything on Schumi and fucked over Rubens for their goal.

In any given year, one team will have the best car. And that team almost always wins. They're all carbabbies.

>>75185316
Merc paid Jordan for the privilege though.

>>75185325
Why pick an arbitrary cut-off year exactly?

Anyway, in that time, Britain has had 5 WDC winners (Hunt, Mansell, Hill, Hamilton, Button), Germany has had 3 (Schumacher, Vettel, Rosberg), and Brazil has had 2 (Piquet and Senna).

In terms of constructors we've absolutely dominated - from 1980 to 1999 (19 years), every single WCC winner was a British team. Also let's remember that the current dominant team and last dominant team (Mercedes and Red Bull) are British-based teams, using British engineers (e.g. Paddy Lowe, Adrian Newey) and indeed British-made engines in the case of Mercedes.

I definitely wouldn't say Brazil have been "far more successful" when they've won 6 WDCs in that time, and Britain has won 7.

As for Germany, sure we all know that Schumacher and Vettel have been the most successful drivers in recent years. Let's be honest though, that's because of two dominant teams (one of whom was run by a Brit - Ross Brawn - and the other of whom was based in Britain, using a British designer - Adrian Newey - and a British team boss - Christian Horner. And indeed basically the whole staff of Red Bull is British because it's a British-based team).

Britain shouldn't take all the credit though - we should credit the Italian engineers at Ferrari, and Rory Byrne for designing all those successful Ferraris, who is of course South African.
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Says that he's going to join Andretti at the race at Barber coming up, so they might have him strap in and test out the controls there some.
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>>75185700
The draft won't be that much different than the those found on long straights in F1.
The difference will come at the end of straights going into turns where you need that downforce that was lost by following another car. Rather easy to find a wall in turns 1 and 3 at Indy that way, things happen quickly at 225 mph.
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>>75185920
>Why pick an arbitrary cut-off year exactly?
Because that's when the state and approach to F1 changed significantly.
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>>75185948
Barber is an awesome track, good place to get familiar.

The race there is coming up soon, would encourage /F1/ to catch it if they can. It's a beautiful natural terrain road course with many elevation changes.
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>>75185568
Ameribro. NASCAR is the most popular motorsport in America right?

What about IndyCar? How popular is that? Also how would you rate IndyCar compared to F1?

I've watched some IndyCar clips on YouTube, it looks like pretty good racing actually. Whether on road circuits or oval circuits. Do Americans consider it to be their version of F1 as it were?

I always find it odd when people always compare NASCAR and F1 when it's utterly stupid - they should be comparing IndyCar and F1 because they're both single-seater open-wheelers. NASCAR is just completely different.

>>75185769
Memetics is a fine art.
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>>75185888
this video will never stop being funny
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>>75182855
>second and third rate F1 drivers generally end up doing well.

Really?

Name one.
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>>75185888
>is there a chance the axle could bend?
>not on your life, my Hindu friend
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>>75186151
>NASCAR most popular. Motorsport in US
Correct

>How's Indycar popularity
Very Niche, CART was the pinnacle of US Motorsport and the most popular for many years until the split. These days all we can say is at least we're more popular than sports car. Really enjoyable though.
>do we consider it our F1
Once upon a time when CART was gaining international popularity it made Bernie a little nervous. Mansell coming over in 1993 and Senna testing 1992 may have lit a fire under him.
I've never really considered it as an F1 replacement though. The CART teams may have been making more money than F1 teams in the early 90's(the drivers sure were), but they also weren't spending as much. F1 has always been the pinnacle of technology with the exception of safety, that was generally the only thing Indycar matched or exceeded F1 in. Otherwise they were always 3-4 years of development behind.
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>>75186151
The Indy 500 is the largest race of the year but NASCAR is still more popular. It's slipped a bunch because there was a huge boom around the turn of the century that it will never replicate, but it's still number one.

I feel like IndyCar is on the rise, it was forgotten for a while and mismanaged into the dark ages, but they're on the comeback. It's still a niche, outside of the 500.

There's still a split among a traditionalist crowd that IndyCar should be for American open wheel racers from USAC, dirt, etc, but they've shifted more into either doing their own thing or trying NASCAR. As a result of the divide there, Indy has a good stepladder system of feeder series, but there's still not a ton of seats in IndyCar, and a bunch are naturally going to go to drivers overseas that either washed out of F1 or want to try a different path. (ie, young guys like Ed Jones, Mikhail Aleshin, Carlos Munoz, foreigners who never sniffed F1)
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>>75186384
The funny thing about the "traditionalist" crowd is that's only a tradition from 1996 in a series that didn't grow naturally.
The series had always had foreign and F1 drivers, it was never an all oval series, and dirt track drivers stopped doing well once the 80's rolled around.
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>>75185568
>>75182665
>ovals are faster that circuits/street courses
ya don't say

run a NASCAR at Suzuka and see what the speeds are
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>>75186524
Woah there, who in their right mind would consider having to turn right?
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>>75186556
wew lad I'm cracking up
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>>75186245
Takuma Sato is a race winner
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>>75186524
they would get to the first corner and be too confused to carry on
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>>75186599
He won Long Beach once.
It had to happen eventually right?
The guy is kept around because Honda wants him around.
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>>75183480
nico won japan

niggerton should have won that race to be champion, but you know what? he didn't : >
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>>75186524
>run a NASCAR at Suzuka and see what the speeds are
they already did that and the guy driving the safety car died.

pole position speed was a touch over 83mph. Why do you yankee doodles use average speed to determine the grid and not a stopwatch like normal people?
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>wake up
>see news that Fernando is finally coming home

odds on his Honda engine blowing up before the race starts?
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>>75186693
We do on road course, just not on ovals primarily for tradition.
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>>75186151
>Ameribro. NASCAR is the most popular motorsport in America right?
Pretty much, yes.

>What about IndyCar? How popular is that? Also how would you rate IndyCar compared to F1?
Indy has a pretty large following, but nowhere near the following of NASCAR. Motorsport in the U.S. has always been kind of a "small town" sport, as urbanites hate the noise, and the rural and country folks don't have as many entertainment options.

Indy is a better series than F1 simply because it is more driver reliant than F1, and more competitive. 8 different drivers from 6 different teams won the 16 races held last season, and the Texas finish was the most bad ass open cockpit racing finish of the year from ANY series.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv8KNya9aeA


> Do Americans consider it to be their version of F1 as it were?
Probably. IMO, F1 is more about the budget and car, and not really racing, while Indy is still about the driver and racing.

>NASCAR is just completely different.

That's true, but in the end, it's all racing, and most racing fans can appreciate different series, as long as there's good racing, which F1 has completely lacked over the past few seasons.
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>>75186693
tradition from the old days at Indy when they were chasing records like 100 mph average speed, 150 180 200 up to the 70s. only done on ovals though and these days they list it alongside the time.

It does aid in sensing the differences between laps on ovals since most of the time the entire field will only be separated by 0.3 seconds
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>>75186599

And yet he got his ass kicked every single season by non-F1 drivers....as did every other "vaunted" F1 driver that came to Indy.
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>>75186934
what about Nige
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>communist spec series where everyone is a winner
I can see why this Indy car thing is popular with the american youth
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>>75186556
hahahaha le epic yuropoor so superior, so smart, and so fany xDDDD!!

he said TURN RIGHT HAHJAJAHHAHAHAHAH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKbvfnp5yU0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzVm4RZTNak
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>>75186761
>Indy is a better series than F1 simply because it is more driver reliant than F1, and more competitive.


HAHAHHAHHAHAHAHA

Jesus Christ, Indy is pretty fun to watch but you can't be serious. Also funny that you make a comment about it not being so determined by the car/team, when its been Penskewinslol forever. And basically all the non-Penske wins last year were either memes or ovals or whatever magic Dixon has with Watkins Glen
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>>75186980
Why are you guys always butthurt about this small series?
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>>75186361
Interesting. Why do you think IndyCar is not as popular as CART was?

Also how is IndyCar safer than F1? I mean maybe it is but with this Alonso thing they're saying IndyCar is more dangerous because it's faster and the cars are usually closer. Also does IndyCar have the carbon "survival cell" that F1 has?

>>75186384
Interesting. I'm guessing though that IndyCar, despite being "niche", is still far more popular than F1 over there?
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>>75186524
>>75186556
>all this butthurt
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>>75186934
>Clark
>Hill
>Fittipaldi
>Mansell
>Montoya
>got his ass kicked
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>>75186995
>they don't even do the figure 8
top fucking kek
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>>75187127
woops I forgot Rossi as well
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>>75182555
This pleases me as a McLaren fan
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>>75186956
Nigel is an interesting exception.
He came off his WDC to race(for even more money) at Newmann Haas, who next to Penske, was the best team in the paddock at the time.
He had his share of hardships, but was by far the most consistent driver there.
Mario Andretti stated that Nigel was the worst teammate he had ever had.
Mario's son Michael was in F1 that year racing for Mclaren with next to no testing under his belt. Even Senna felt sorry for him.

Ultimately Nigel was an exceptional driver and if anyone could have guessed he'd be champion one season in against the likes of Unser Jr. And Emmerson Fittipaldi(was Tracy in his rookie season in 93) then I would have told them to buy a lottery ticket.
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>>75186995

>fly all the way to Japan for a race on one of the greatest and most legendary circuits in the world
>don't even use the full circuit
>use some shortened club circuit that misses almost all the greatest corners on the track

Jesus christ
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>>75187225
>tfw no 40-car mayhem through 130R
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>>75187100
>Interesting. Why do you think IndyCar is not as popular as CART was?
You could write a 20 volume series of books theorizing on why but the main reason is the "split" and negative/non-existent media coverage by pro-NASCAR outlets really hurt this style of racing here.

Of course Indy has a carbon survival cell

I'd say F1 is more popular here largely because of how many immigrants we have. Indy is just not seen as cool or interesting or worth people's time despite the good racing.
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Here's hoping we get someone from NASCAR doing the double. Imagine Alonso driving next to Kyle Larson or someone, would be hilarious and great for the sport
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>>75187100
>why is Indycar not as popular as it once was
Multitude of reasons, more than I can list. It's water under the bridge, time to look forward as Indycar has been very enjoyable the past 5 seasons.
>Safety
Indycar's monocoque is stronger and meant to disperse more energy in the even of a crash because it must for ovals. If someone asked me which car I'd rather hit a wall at 200mph in, I'll take the Indycar anyday. The indycar tub is made of more than just carbon, some materials many times stronger than kevlar.(likely materials also found in an F1 monocoque, but in different amounts)
A lot of safety innovations came from CART out of necessity for oval racing and were later applied to other forms of racing.
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>>75186980
>F1 isn't a "spec" series

This is what F1 "fans" actually believe....
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>>75184782
Bananaman is deff still a cuck.
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>>75187427
>this meme again
Reminder that if F1 was a spec series then it'd be impossible for a car to dominate.
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>>75187461
same
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>>75187385
Why do Indycars go around ovals and shitty road circuits instead of some of americas fantastic actual circuits.
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Hey Amerilads, whats the best way to combat dizziness when watching oval racing?
I'll have to get in some practice so I can watch the race.
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>>75187361

Chevy may try to get someone to run the double to counter the Alonso hype. Since they lost Krut though the only driver with any experience in their stable is AJ Allemendinger. He would definitely run well its just meh publicity wise.
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>>75185861
>Burger reading comprehension
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>>75187562
fucking this
the cars are so nice but they're wasted on turnleft
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>>75187562
>americas fantastic actual circuits
The only one they're missing is Laguna. Unless you're someone who thinks COTA is actually a good track?
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>>75186956
>>75187127

Pic related: Indy car champs for the past 20 years.

Where are the F1 drivers at? Surely their superior driving skills would allow them to dominate the lowly Indy car series, yes?

Not so much.
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>>75186761
I was watching that Texas video just yesterday actually; by chance it came up as a recommended video on YouTube so I watched it.

As for saying F1 hasn't been competitive, you wouldn't call the competition between Lewis and Nico competitive? Not to mention Red Bull and Ferrari winning many races as well. And not to mention the battle between the midfield teams battling, like Williams, Force India, McLaren, Haas etc.
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what's the betting he runs around at the back, sticks it in the wall and then slips off to blow his brains out
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Turning left in high-downforce open-wheel cars is a ton of fun and very competitive and exciting. Give it a chance. Street courses are much worse than proper road course of course but they're there for promotional purposes so there's not much to be done.
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>>75187615
75% of that list are F1 flunkies so? Only Hornish Lazier Stewart went the American route in their upbringing, you really can't think Sharp or Calkins were real champions in that 3 race failure of a season.
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>>75187125
>having an irrelevant racing series that nobody else in the world cares about
>not watching the most popular racing series in the world (see pic)
Yanks, everybody
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>>75187785
>things are only worth doing if they are popular because I can't think for myself
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>>75187225
>finnish person can't see the forest from the trees and spends his time counting all the leafs instead
sasuga
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>>75187338
>You could write a 20 volume series of books theorizing on why but the main reason is the "split" and negative/non-existent media coverage by pro-NASCAR outlets really hurt this style of racing here.
I see. Makes sense.

>I'd say F1 is more popular here largely because of how many immigrants we have. Indy is just not seen as cool or interesting or worth people's time despite the good racing.
Interesting.

>>75187385
>Indycar's monocoque is stronger and meant to disperse more energy in the even of a crash because it must for ovals. If someone asked me which car I'd rather hit a wall at 200mph in, I'll take the Indycar anyday. The indycar tub is made of more than just carbon, some materials many times stronger than kevlar.(likely materials also found in an F1 monocoque, but in different amounts)
A lot of safety innovations came from CART out of necessity for oval racing and were later applied to other forms of racing.
Interesting. Fair enough.

>>75187427
>every single team designs and manufactures a bespoke chassis (apart from Haas who get Dallara to make theirs)
>every team comes up with unique interpretations of, and solutions to, the regulations
>spec series
Okay kid
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>>75187610
I don't think anyone likes Circuit of the Run-off Area but you've Sebring, Lime Rock, Laguna and Road Atlanta un-used.
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>>75187698
The Honda engines in Indy are built by strong Americans, not wimpy little Japs, he should be competitive. Depends on how unshook he is by the closeness of the walls.
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>>75187100

It's hard to say. F1 has kind of a closet crowd here, because there's only one race in the country, and the rest are on at all kinds of weird hours of the night and morning.
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>>75188017
Lime Rock and Road Atlanta are too small and don't have facilities, it is amazing that they can manage prototypes and full GT grids at those places every year. Sebring would be interesting but I imagine the "muh safety" crowd wouldn't like them on the bumpy surface.
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>>75187361
Larson's in a legitimate title hunt though, I don't know if Ganassi would risk a distraction.
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>it's a f1-watching normies who don't follow any motorsport outside of Normie1 critique American/oval racing episode

Indycar has been much better than F1 for the past 4 years or so.
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>>75188151
isn't he already qualified for their mickey mouse playoff shit?
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>>75187583
>>75187361

My dad just brought up the perfect answer. If Chevy wants to outdo Honda by bringing in one of their NASCAR they'll get Jeff Gordon
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>>75187785
F1 and soccer are the two worst "sports" in the world. You've got more common interests with third worlders than white people.
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>>75187562
Indy has much better tracks now than it did just a few years ago. Fewer shitty street courses, no more airport runway layouts, fewer high-banked ovals, and they're racing at Sonoma, Watkins Glen, and Barber.
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>>75188017
IndyCar tests at Sebring. I imagine it's a geographical/schedule thing.
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>>75188146

Yea, Lime Rock literally just paved the entire paddock within the last two years.

And then there's the NIMBYs. That track can have pretty much any event it wants as long as it isn't a race or a rock concert
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>>75188146
As far as I know the Indycar guys do a bit of testing at Sebring. Road Atlanta is longer than Mid-Ohio and they still drive there but Lime Rock is a pretty short track yeah.
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>>75188253
>>75188215
they only use the asphalt portion of Sebring for tests
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>>75187615
It's only FAILED F1 drivers that go and race in IndyCar - the successful ones stay in F1 don't they?

And if they do race in other things afterwards, it's usually European things. Kimi did WRC, Webber did WEC, Coulthard and Hakkinen did DTM, etc. And none of them did those things for very long. Schumacher never raced in anything after F1, apart from more F1.

The successful F1 drivers tend to spend the vast majority of their career, and especially their prime years, in F1.
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>>75188211
>airport runway layouts

Cleveland was based, the pole speed was ~130mph.
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>>75187018
>all the non-Penske wins last year were either memes or ovals or whatever

Versus all the....oh, I mean BOTH the non-Merc wins last year, right? How about the year before?

2016 season.....
>8 different drivers from 6 different teams achieve a victory in Indy
>4 different drivers from 2 different teams achieve a victory in F1

There was zero competition in F1 last season, and it looks like there's only going to be 2 teams capable of winning again this season too, which means F1 will STILL be a shit series.
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>>75188297
>Schumacher never raced in anything after F1

um

Kimi also did NASCAR, wonder if he'll go back when he gets bored of F1
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>>75188297
Yeah, I think where apples vs oranges comes into play. If you're doing fine in F1, you have no reason to go race for an IndyCar championship.
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>>75187562
Some of the ovals are really fun, but there's only two street courses I'd keep and they're Long Beach and St. Pete.
The rest, Toronto and Detroit can fuck right off.
Detroit could turn into Michigan Speedway and Toronto could go to a natural roadcourse.
I'd like to see COTA on the calender, not because it's a good circuit, but rather to see what a race at a wide, smooth track would look like. Indycar does well at tracks like that.

Fun bit of Trivia:
When Chevrolet tested their original aerokit design at COTA in 2015, it was so fast it would have put the Indycar mid-field in F1 2014 Qualifying.(This is not indicitave of today, as of the 2017 regs the whole F1 smokes any car on any circuit)
The aerokit produced nearly 8500lbs. Of downforce apparently. More than a fucking Le Mans Prototype which is insane.
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>>75188297
>Schumacher never raced in anything after F1
He tried skiing but it didn't go well
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>>75187815
>This thing is awesome even though nobody likes it! Yeah I'm just really special!
Okay kid

>>75188204
>F1 and football are followed by all of Europe
>Europe's population is over twice that of the USA's
Really makes me think
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>>75188398
DELETE THIS
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>>75188313
The speed at Watkins Glen last year was unbelievable.
Scott Dixon averaged 147mph all the way around the 3+mile circuit.
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>>75188050
Fair.

>>75188350
>There was zero competition in F1 last season
>Competition between teammates isn't competition
>Red Bull winning Monaco isn't competition
>Red Bull winning Spain isn't competition
Go back to your babby "sports" please
>>>/asp/

>>75188358
Didn't know about either of those things

>>75188361
Exactly

>>75188398
Jej
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>>75188398
>implying it isn't his plan to comeback and dominate the special olympics

s-soon right?
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>>75188505
he'll be back to f1 in his special car
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>>75184447
funniest picture i've seen in a while.

anyone got anymore henno's blurred memes?
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>>75188153
It's weird isn't it, racing fans watch everything, meanwhile the F1 fan only watches F1. I never understood these types.
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>>75188387
Draft and turn left isn't fun in my mind, it's better than push-drs to pass on the tilkedrome but that's it really.

On the P1 downforce thing, those guys keep getting downforce taken away from them because the hybrids produce so much torque and instant power. The TS040 le-mans trim was only putting out about 3000lbs.
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Alonso is going to go so fast they will need to throw a yellow every lap just to slow him down.
Then the tyres will a worry from his ultra high average speed thought unimaginable by all indy car engineers to the point that they will just have to call the race and give him the win by default.

This is what it will look like:
https://vimeo.com/82577131
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>>75188498
Red Bull didn't win Monaco, they choked away the win on a pit-stop.
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>>75188692
Delet
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>>75188574

Just like how the average NASCAR fan doesn't watch any other kind of racing, right ameribro?
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>>75187461
>here comes the denial

If F1 was an open series, instead of the spec series it is, then they could run whatever sized tires they wanted, from any manufacturer, whatever aero package they wanted, at whatever car weight they wanted to, all the while using traction control, and any other computer crutch they could develop.

But they can't, can they, Nigel? No. Because the spec....oh, I'm sorry, the "formula" doesn't allow them to for the sake of competition.

F1 is indeed a spec series, it's just a shitty spec series that manipulates the specs in favor of the big teams like Merc and Ferrari.
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>>75188721
I guess you're right, plebs are plebs no matter where they are from.
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>>75188631
I get that, that's simply down to taste.
The most enjoyable racing in Indycar hasn't been ovals lately as it is and I don't enjoy the flat foot on the floor racing of yesteryear where everyone is in a group on a knife's edge. That kind of racing saw its unfortunate natural conclusion in 2011.
What Indycar needs to fix this is more Horsepower(like 900hp) which would force drivers to lift in the corners, you wouldn't see the level of parity now, but it would be quite a bit safer.
I'll be headed to a local oval race that was added this year, I enjoy racing in general.
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>>75188732
I wonder how long it'll take you to work out the difference between spec and formula series.
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>>75188788
He'll never understand, he's being obtuse.
Best option is to ignore him.
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>>75188732

By your logic, the only non-"Spec" racing series in the whole world is The Pike's Peak Hillclimb.
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>>75188827
No, they force you to take a line up to mountain, why can't I just fly up it?
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>>75188787

desu I was hoping they would mandate the superspeedway wings for phoenix to make the racing more exciting
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>>75188865
kek just invert the wings on this
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>>75187727
>75% of that list are F1 flunkies so?

NONE of them ever drove in F1, according to race reference.

And yet they still managed to beat drivers that actually did.
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>>75188878
2 ways of solving the same problem, one speeds the cars up while the other slows them down.
Do you add HP and go faster which will require lifting, or do you reduce DF and go slower which will require lifting?
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>>75188903
tfw no Suzuki hatchback with hueg wings, 4 turbos and 1000bhp.
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>>75188174
Yeah he won a race so he could jerk off the rest of the season and still be in the playoff, but he's also number one in the standings meaning he would start the playoff with the equivalent of three race wins. Ganassi don't want to choke that away to have him in the 500
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>>75188787
They had the spec right at Texas in 2013 or 14, they were forced into a low downforce setup and drivers had to lift especially as tires lost grip

>>75188926
>NONE of them ever drove in F1, according to race reference.
Right, they were flunkies, they couldn't even make it in. they were in Europe, in the feeder series, desperately trying to get in to F1.
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>>75188903
isn't pikes peak fully paved now? why the off road tyres?
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>>75187785
>millions of retards stick needles in their eyes
>you're an idiot if you don't follow along

Doesn't work like that, bud.
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>>75189009
old pic

dayum shame about that too
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Guys, why is this thread so autistic right now? This isn't entertaining at all.

According to this chart >>75187785 F1 could be the most watched sport that happens on a regular basis.

So where and when will be the first happening in F1? There has almost been one at last years Singapore GP.
>http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/police-smash-isis-terror-plot-8578197

Will the new safety shield provide enough protection?
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>>75188192
I'd like to see cheeky logano in an IndyCar, I think it would be hilarious
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>>75189035
Mana will run on to the track in Japan and attempt suicide
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>>75188948
breddy gud articles for laymen on street/road course, short oval, and speedway downforce written by jr hildebrand

http://www.indycar.com/News/2016/06/06-22-Voices-Hildebrand-downforce-pt1
http://www.indycar.com/News/2016/07/07-05-Voices-Downforce-Part-2
http://www.indycar.com/News/2016/08/08-16-Voices-Hildebrand-downforce-3
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>>75189035
The shield looks hideous compared to the aeroscreen, but I can see the energy reduction advantages of it over the other options.
It also may not be completely destroyed after the first impact.
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>>75189035
Wouldn't put it past Hamilton to put a bomb in his car and Akbar the grid
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>>75189035

My bet is 2018; with France, Germany and Turkey thing is almost sure
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>>75188153
>>75188574
I watch things outside of F1, and F1 is the superior form of racing.

>being a Brit who chokes on American dick
Nothing is more shameful than that.
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>>75189109
Read them a while back.
Obviously there's no way to make up time lost from removing downforce by adding Horsepower, but I wasn't advocating the removal DF either.
There's more of a ratio at play there, if Indycar increased the HP, but left the DF the same the average speed would rise, but drivers would have to lift and maybe even brake for corners, while if HP is left alone and DF reduced drivers will have to lift in order avoid instability and hitting a wall.
All about find the right DF to HP ratio to balance safety with a decent mix up of racing.
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>>75189226
is it that easy? doesn't downforce increase with the speed of air?
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>>75188692
Oh yeah it was Malaysia they won

>>75188732
>he literally doesn't know what "spec series" means
Americans everybody

>>75189010
What? Who is sticking needles in their eyes? What are you talking about?
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>Skipping Monaco to do Indy 500
Alonso you retarded madman.
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>>75188204
>F1 and soccer are the two worst "sports" in the world.
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>>75189309
>sit in the garage all day after your engine dies again
or
>possibly contend for a race win far away from Japanese Honda mechanics
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>>75189226
Yeah, everything is an optimization and there aren't "objectively" right answers. I was posting those for other people who might be interested in some reading.

I think they're in a pretty good position now, and the move to more wing under the car is smart. It pains me that F1 manages to keep fucking that up with everything above the bottom plane. The better racing won't come until they clean up the air.
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>>75188204
>>75189323
>America
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>>75189035
>Terrorist hijacks tractor cunt and drives onto the track on lap 1. His target is Stroll - a perfect example of the wealthy, corrupt west
>Plan backfires because Stroll has crashed on the formation lap and is already out of the race
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>>75189391
>clean air in Indy
Soon brothers.

As far as undertray DF, I believe some F1 teams did some testing on that years ago and found that it wouldn't necessarily help passing, but I don't think they've revisited it since and the ground effects problem wouldn't be as large given that most F1 tracks are silky smooth.
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>>75189727
this would make a nice over the top comedy, starring C list SNL actors
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Is eating a lot a sport? Theres sport & e-sports, maybe porksport is a thing? Nick?
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>>75189727

I'm sure many would take part in the task of taking out forever Strulovitch
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>>75189845
of course
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So Alonso running Indy has probably been in the works for a few months now, right? I honestly would not be surprised if he was threatening to leave and they offered him this opportunity if he promised to finish out the season. It would explain why despite being miserable hew is willing to stay in the car.
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>>75189358
>>possibly contend for a race win far away from Japanese Honda mechanics

The car he'll be driving has a Honda engine. I assume that's why it was easy to pull this off, since Honda is the one paying his salary
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>>75189845
Nathan's Hot dog eating contests are a thing.
They're also really good Beef Franks in general.
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>>75189845
yes it is
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZTFOATm0Rc
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>>75189914
Probably. If he has the freedom to do things like this and le mans maybe he will stay
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>>75189925
Right, but no Japanese engineers bumbling around ruining everything at HPD
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>>75189914
https://www.motorsport.com/indycar/news/alonso-indy-500-idea-was-originally-a-joke-says-brown-893019/
Seems like it came together pretty quickly
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>>75185232
>race of pure top speed
>your engine doesn't matter
8/8
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>>75188297
> only FAILED F1 drivers that go and race in IndyCar - the successful ones stay in F1 don't they?

What is a "successful" F1 driver, though? Is it somebody that wins championships? Races? No, a "successful" F1 driver is simply a driver that's able to keep a seat, regardless of how shitty the car is on the track. See: Button, Alonso, Grosjean, Massa, etc...

Not that I fault those guys for driving a shitbox for money, but I can see how a lot of drivers would rather drive in a series and actually be competitive, as opposed to drive for a losing team year after year.

Regardless, just as Kimi found out when he dabbled in other series, F1 experience is great for F1, but when you change series, you're a n00b again and will likely get your ass kicked by the vets in any given series.
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>>75190054
there are only 2 engine brands available to use and teams can't alter them, so aero development and fine tuning the way the suspension travels at high speed is much more important to Indycars on ovals in this era.
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>>75188498
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>>75190041
Alonso has hinted at it being a possibility (after retirement though) for a few years at least
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Woke up to all these American flags in /f1/ and all this foreign butthurt. Bretty gud morning desu.

Also, reminder that racism is bad but homophobia is gud
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>>75190223
>teams can't alter them
wew lad, no fun allowed. Aero then. Still money involved.
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>>75188788
Probably about as long as it takes you to figure out the difference between an open series and F1.
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>>75190463
they're both fantastic

leave it at that
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>>75190463
Racial In-group preference and disdain for the mentally ill are natural evolutionary advantages.
Thanks.
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>>75188687

>Fernando stays at Indycar for the rest of the season
>Fernando tells McLaren he will only come back once they have a good car

it's going to happen and Alonso will become a 10x Indycar champ
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Post McLarens faster and more reliable than the MCL32
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>>75182673
name an F1 track where you hit 230+ twice a lap and never go below 210 or so

name an f1 track where the cars can remain close together for a long period of time
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>>75190463
>but homophobia is gud
>>>/global/rules/2

on that note, friendly reminder that Hamilton is gay for Sutil
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>>75188827
>By your logic

By my logic, any series that isn't an open series IS a spec series, as is F1, and pretty much EVERY other series out there.

The reason they impose specs and formulas is to try to create some kind of parity among the competitors, so there's actually competition among drivers on the track and not just the equipment. F1 simply sucks at creating a competitive spec / formula, hence MWL, VWL, SWL....
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What Kubica's team is now?
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>>75189914
From the racer article:
>Mark Miles and Zak Brown were friends before one became President & CEO of Hulman & Company and the other took over McLaren. But together they figured out a way to help boost the Indianapolis 500's profile and check off a box on a two-time Formula 1 champion's bucket list.
>"I got a call from Zak a couple of weeks ago and he wondered if we could put a Honda deal together so Fernando could run in this year's Indy 500," Miles told RACER.com. "I said we would move heaven and earth to make that happen.
>"So I contacted some Honda teams and he contacted one, but we couldn't find an engine. And then we got lucky."
>Miles reached out to Stefan Wilson, who had been working on his own program for Indy, explained his dilemma, and suggested maybe there was a way the younger brother of the late Justin Wilson could help: give up his seat for Alonso next month, and let IMS add to the value of his program for 2018.
>"As much as he wanted to run the Speedway this year, he was looking out for the greater good of IndyCar," said Miles. "Quite a gesture."
>Brown then approached the McLaren board and Honda of Japan to make his pitch, and thus began non-stop texting between Miles, Brown and Michael Andretti.

even before this, stefan was a cool kid
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>>75189845
No idea what you're talking about m8. :^)
I eat 1500 calories a day.
I only order plain meat skewers from the local place and nothing else.
I haven't touched real junk food in a month and don't feel like eating that garbage anyway.

Sweets on the other hand...
Can't drop the sugar, I just keep it at 500 calories a dose.
Fucking kinder bueno man, it's a little taste of heaven.
I can't quit it yet.

My thoughts are I have been eating worse junk at much larger quantities for years and my blood tests and heart are fine, they can take another year or two until I reach a healthy weight. I believe then I will look at myself in the mirror, feel good and start wanting to eat healthy. That's what I hope happens anyway.
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>>75188985
>they couldn't even make it in

And yet they dominated any F1 driver that did show up to Indy, despite being "flunkies".
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>>75190781
team Dacia
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I happened to look at the Texas Test speed charts.
Will Power is second at 215MPH~ in a Chevrolet, Scott Dixon is P1 at 219mph~ in his Honda. That's enormous.
They may be testing different things, but I believe Honda has one hell of a horse power advantage.

Alonso won't have to worry much, this is an actually good Honda engine.
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>>75189035
>/f1/
>not autistic

Choose one, Heinz.
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>>75187785
>Wimbledon, the biggest event in tennis ever
>so fucking low

Holy shit what
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>>75190784
seems like Alonso threw a fit and threatened to quit mid-race weekend or mid-season and Honda put this together to keep appearances and save further embarrassment
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>>75190914
it's almost as if tennis is monotonous and boring
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>>75190932
DELETE
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>>75190932
>pleb hot takes

tennis is one of the best sports
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>>75190786
all memes aside do you know of any healthy methods to cultivate mass? I'm sick of being a lanklet
I figure you'd have the most experience
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>>75187785
I'd like to see that but split into gdp per capita of people watching.
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>>75190882
As long as Andretti doesn't DNF every single one of their cars
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>>75191007
he just told you
Kinder Buenos
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>>75190054
>>75190526
>chassis setup
>no fun allowed
For someone that talks a lot about engineering you seem to not appreciate the parts that matter the most.
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>>75190022
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>>75190786
What you're describing is true Nick, but you gotta cut sugar completely. Try not eating any sweets for a month and you won't have those cravings anymore. This also includes proccessed foods containing sugar ofc.
Eating a single kinder bueno everyday is pure poison, as it only satisfies your addiction and maintains it.
Sugar is a hell of a drug. Worse than alcohol and tobacco imo
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>>75191113
>sweets
lmaoing
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fucking towelheads and their weird ass christmas trees
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>>75190673

No such track exists.
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>>75191329
looks like a Corona commercial
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>>75187615
>Not including cart/champcar during the applicable years
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>>75191007

No, I have no idea.

>let's ask for advice from the morbidly obese guy who lost 10 kg by basically eating meat and chocolate, sounds like a good idea
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>>75191007
>mass
Fat or muscle?
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>>75191007
Grilled chicken breast + weight training + ????? = Gains
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>>75190781
suicide watch
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NEW THREAD

>>75191944

>>75191944

>>75191944

>>75191944
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>>75191797
Nick, you have to lose 50kg by next Wednesday or you turn into this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRUJROs2PKo
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>>75191906
>?????
This step is "eating more than your TDEE of healthy food"
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>>75191747
20 years of data is good enough to to destroy their ridiculous contentions.
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>>75191997

Jesus christ.
I'm not as fat as either though.
The goal is around 1 kg a week for two years.
Slow and steady.
As long as that goal is met, I'm happy.

But fucking hell, that... mass of a man.
How does he even take a shit, how does he wipe.
Do the nurses or whoever takes care of it do it?
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>>75190068
>What is a "successful" F1 driver, though?
The ones who win races and contend for championships.

>No, a "successful" F1 driver is simply a driver that's able to keep a seat
No it's not. That's just any F1 driver. That's not what I meant. I was referring to the ones who win races and contend for championships.

>Button, Alonso, Grosjean, Massa, etc...
Button and Alonso are both WDC winners. Massa came very close and, while I'm a Hamilton fan, Massa should arguably have won the 2008 WDC (he was hit with bad luck in many races, like Hamilton was in 2016).

So I don't know why you're quoting these guys as if they're non-successful drivers? Grosjean is the only person you've mentioned who hasn't won a race. But he still fancies his chances at future success - he joined Haas (essentially Ferrari B-Team) because he hopes to get a Ferrari seat one day. If Kimi retires, who knows? Probably unlikely but you never know.

>Not that I fault those guys for driving a shitbox for money, but I can see how a lot of drivers would rather drive in a series and actually be competitive, as opposed to drive for a losing team year after year.
So basically you're saying "lol the guys in F1 are just faggots who accept their place as losers, whereas REAL racers leave the sport to come to the REAL sport of IndyCar!"

Yeah, nah. F1 is the most important racing series in the world. These guys stay in F1 because they dream that they will get a spot on one of the big teams, so they can win races and WDCs. American series are just reject series in the eyes of everybody outside of America.

>Regardless, just as Kimi found out when he dabbled in other series, F1 experience is great for F1, but when you change series, you're a n00b again and will likely get your ass kicked by the vets in any given series.
Rallying is literally completely different to road racing and if any IndyCar driver went to WRC then they would be just as shite as Kimi.
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>>75190463
>go into a motorsport or /turn left/ thread
>mention the fact that nobody watches their terrible series
>mention the fact that F1 is orders of magnitude more popular
>watch as every yank breaks down in tears
My sides.

>inb4 "just because it's popular doesn't mean it's good!"
Yeah it does actually; the level of popularity of something is the most objective measure there is of that thing's worth.

By all means enjoy your shitty racing series though. :D
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>>75190673
>>75191374
Name an oval where you turn right.

Name an oval where you have to navigate a tight twisty section of the track.

Name an oval with a hairpin.

Name an oval with a chicane.

Name an oval with esses.

Name an oval with a challenging series of 90 degree corners.

Name an oval with significant changes in elevation (banking doesn't count).
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>>75190914
Mate, for it to be that high among football, cricket (watched by nearly a billion Indians and Pakis), the Olympics, all that shit, is pretty good going.

>>75190932
End thyself.

>>75191026
>HURR DURR MURICA IS THE GREATESSSTTTT
Nah it's not. You guys are just fat fucks.
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>>75193436
I actually much prefer F1 to any other series, I just thought it was funny to see so many American flags in here and so many of your ilk being so insecure about how superior F1 is.

You're replying to a dead thread btw, your autism is showing
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>>75193651
>go in a /turn left/ thread
>mention that nobody in the world watches NASCAR
>watch as every single American throws their toys out the pram and pisses their pants with autism

:^)
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>>75193918
>being this mad nobody took your bait
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>>75195502
>being this mad nobody watches your shitty racing series
:D
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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