/f1/ Formula 1 General - Doggo Edition Vol. II

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Shitshield

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Dogs are for needy losers.

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anime desu

>bottas behind amx, 20 points behind his teammate and only 1 point ahead of washed up gimi
d r o p p e d

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>>75163765
Jesus Bottas get your shit together. Dropped an easy podium there lad

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>>75163773
Miss me Mercedes

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6th for Gimi wins

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>>75163744
I heard you like dogs

We're going to have a problem, I fear

>>75163784
If it doesn't happen again, as in a shit-tier low speed spin, then I think we can let it slide.

>>75163788
the call that saved mercedes

>>75163789
>6th

>>75163797
>Finland always slower than intended

>>75163797
>>75163802
I'm not good at math

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we eurobeat now

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>>75163790

Cats
>relaxed
>clean
>go to F1 tracks to chill and watch the race
>the NEET of the animal kingdom

Dogs
>bark all the time
>eat their own shit
>go to F1 tracks, run around on the track causing chaos, then get run over
>the attention whore of the animal kingdom

Cats are based as fuck
Dog are absolutely disgusting

>>75163833
baku really did welcome all of us then

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>>75163833
A chubby cat is a happy cat. Say nice things to a fat puss if you see one today

>>75163861
>nigel_mansell_1995.gif

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>>75163870
>you'll never be too fat to fit into a race car
On the other hand do need chocks for the pedals when go karting

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>>75163870
DELETE THIS

>>75163763

I can see how this would've saved Jules.

>>75163822

Damn that's a good save

And it shows you that Bottas' mistake wasn't all that bad. I think these cars are much easier to slide/spin than the last ones - there was lots of slipping and sliding at Barcelona testing.

Maybe it's because the higher downforce lulls them into thinking lots of grip is available, but then they forget when they're driving at low speeds that such grip isn't available? I don't know.

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>>75163833
Baku cat best cat

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>>75163554
>>75163573
>it keeps getting worse
One day you will realize I am right about the halo. Yes it's fuck ugly but look at the alternatives they are pushing for. They will eventually accept one of them. Better halo than a glass that will kill the visibility and cause crashes or a closed cockpit.
If it's not broken, don't fucking fix it. Fucking Bernie


>>75163889
Well desu it could've saved Massa's head. He was extremely lucky.

>>75163899
Hülkenberg spun fucking three times during the race, but got zero criticism for it

the drivers say that these tyres give no warning when they completely lose traction, so if you're too aggressive on the throttle or carry too much speed into a corner you can spin instantly, with no chance of saving it

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>>75163916

What about Barcellona's comfy cat?

>two full days until FP1

>>75163932
because hulkenberg has no future

>>75160958
That's not me tho.

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O SHIT LADS

TURKISH GP INCOMING

remember to pay your daily respects to Erdoğan

>>75163967
>reverse image search
>3 hours ago
Wew. So he finally realized actively trying to kill tourism will kill the tourism.

>>75163967
no thanks

>>75163967
what is turkey?

>>75163967

And here I was thinking Liberty would get rid of the races in corrupt dictatorships.
Instead they seem to be adding more...

>>75163967

Based Liberty doing Trump's work to keep the roaches quiet

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>>75163967
why even bother

just rename the german grand prix and have done with it

>drop race in one muslim dictatorship with zero spectators
>add three races in muslim countries, one of them a dictatorship, with zero spectators

WELL DONE LIBERTY

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>>75163967
RIP AMX

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>>75163916
AMEN! WELL DONE BAKU CAT!

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>>75164026
Did he get caught fucking his sister?

>>75164033
Well done Baku!

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>>75164033
WELL DONE BAKU

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>>75164033
WELL DONE BAKU

>>75163967
""""""""European"""""""" Grand Prix

>>75164100

Pay debts.

>>75164112
Ok.

>>75164100
Lose weight

>>75164150
Ok.

>>75164100
Gain height.

>>75164164

Gain weight.

Eat more

>>75164100
stop being feckless, financially incompetent idiots

>>75164184
>>75164197
Ok.
>>75164198
Never.

>>75163967
BASED

Erdoroach will be BTFO soon enough but the Istanbul track is just too good to not drive there

Teams had a meeting discussing the shark fins.

Only two teams who wanted to keep them were Red Bull for aerodynamics and Force India because they already sold that sweet sponsor space.

>>75163967
can't wait to watch a race live in the home of my ancestors

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>>75164487
>Red Bull

>mfw Horner was the paladin for banning them

>>75163967
RIP any remaining hopes Zandvoort had of F1 coming back to toothpasteland

>>75164519
Not so fast, my autistic, friend; didn't Liberty say they wanted some 25 races per season?
https://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2016/09/thoughts-on-the-2017-formula-1-calendar-expansion-to-25-races-in-long-term-vision/
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2017/01/31/analysis-soon-can-liberty-start-changing-f1/
http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/10608229/the-future-of-formula-1-could-f1-expand-to-25-races-in-the-future

>>75164519
as if anyone wants to go to a place filled with autistic amx fans

>>75164519

>wanting Zandvoort
>thinking Zandvoort will ever happen
>thinking Zandvoort is a good race track for modern F1
>thinking Zandvoort can logistically handle crowds of several hundred thousand toothpastes

Even Max himself said that Zandvoort won't happen and its a classic circuit but not suitable for modern F1 racing and he's actually driven the track with a F1 car

>>75164586
WHERES MY BERLIN AVUS?

>>75164600
Exactly, but that hasn't stopped the delusional Dutch authorities from commissioning an expensive, taxpayer-funded survey into the feasibility of hosting a Grand Prix again.

>>75164603

The future of Zandvoort

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>>75164600
we could get rid of a few hundred thousand verstappen fans in the ensuing crush however

i say we do it. would clear things up around here anyway

>>75164586

>Implying they won't be all in America.

East Coast GP, West Coast GP, Indianapolis Special GP

>>75164633
Watkin's Glen, Long Bach, Indy?

I'm ok with that.

>>75164699

Port Imperial, a newely designed street circuit in San Francisco/Los Angeles and Indy, but in the MotoGP configuration

>>75164586
Kyalami when!?

>>75163833
fuck dogs and dog owners. it's a fucking epidemic over here

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>>75163833

>tfw i want to have a cat but i'm allergic to cat-hair

>>75163833

Cat owners are literally cuckolds, the cat sees you as nothing more as the servant who gives it food and drinks.

Dogs are loyal and will mourn your death for months.

Susie's given birth lads

Today marks the 9 month anniversary of the last time Toto will be let out of his chastity cage

https://twitter.com/Susie_Wolff/status/851813786512175105

RIP Gio.

>Good news: We are pleased to inform that Pascal Wehrlein will be back in the car as of the #BahrainGP!

https://twitter.com/undefined/status/851812768219115521

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>>75163833
>Get two Tenrecs a month ago because the missus is allergic to cats and dogs and wants a pet
>wtfthisisn'tapet.bmp
>play with them for an hour or so every night, let them climb us and get used to our scent
>both races have been early morning comfy times so we've taken them out and they've slept cuddled up while we watched
>walk past their cage last night, round about the time we normally interact with them, one of them is making constant high pitched squeaks
>gf freaks out, takes vid and sends it the lady we rescued them from
>turns out the little shit is just excited to come out and play

Tenrecs are surprisingly based.

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>>75164862
APOLOGISE

>>75164862
Dunno why the linked fucked up.

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>>75164838
get a hairless cat

>>75164860
>blue heart

I guess she's >implying a boy.

>inb4 nepotism tier F1 driver in 18 years

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>>75164838
My friend has cats and one of the fuckers ALWAYS sleeps in his bed when he's not in his room. Makes him very mad, but he can live with it. If it's not so bad, do it.

>>75164851
Cats are autists. They love you, but they can't show it. As long as you know how to communicate, they're not different than dogs. When they do bad stuff, and if you could teach, they will feel bad. When you yell, they will know why. And if you bonded nicely, they will never approach strangers despite liking them in your home. If you're hurt, they will even try their best take care of you like they do to other hurt cats.

Bonus points for not shitting/pissing in your bed on purpose when they're angry.

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>>75164851

* a dog will eat you after your death

And probably cause it

>>75164883
the devil in animal form

>>75164862
Gio's career is now dead.

>>75164602
massive banked turns need to comeback asap

>dat flagpole
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFcV7cWnSwA

>>75164919
Get a smaller dog then that you can boot over the fence if he tries shit like that

>>75164862
Announcement tomorrow:
>Wehrlein has unfortunately decided he is still not quite ready! Gotta be in tip top form to get in the car after all! Better play it safe and go with Gio again!

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>>75164602
Nah, you want Lingotto lad

>>75165002
>rooftop track
>Fiat

Can't be very safe with all that oil on the track.

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>>75164919
>working retail part time
>huge ass pit strolls around with chubby lady owner
>female coworkers all cheer for the too cute doggo
>i can barely hide my redpill about pits being the niggers of the dog world
>got in mandatory argument for not liking the fact that he had other clients' children nearby, fearing it might snap
>anon what's wrong with you, they are the best dogs in the world
>meanwhile >>>/gif/ rekt pitbull videos play in front of my empty eyes

why are women (and most men) so naive about wildlife danger and its crucial role in our existence on this planet. What the fuck could I do to redpill the fuck out of them, spout statistics like an autist?

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future WDC right here

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>>75165002
>tfw you'll never race cars on the roof of the factory

>>75164902
This. My cat and I are buddies because I learned her language. Cats don't exist to lick your ass like dogs, they can enjoy your company though.

>>75164862
>RIP Gio
good riddance. the very definition of a meme driver.

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will he be be cucked again this weekend boys?

>>75164851
Couldn't agree more. It says a lot about someones personality if he/she likes cats more than dogs. I don't understand these ((((people))))

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>>75165081
>will he be be HUMILIATED again this weekend boys?

FTFY

>>75164862
>terroni
>doing anything right ever
not surprised tbqh fammalam

>When it rained in 2014, Vettel was always faster than Ricciardo

really makes you think

>>75165106
Why are you still trying to push a retarded agenda, faggot?

>>75165129
Do all Australians experience such self loathing, or is it just the Abbos and Webber fans?

>>75163932
>>75165022
This is crazy. I didn't see any of these spins, from HUL or VER or SAI during the race.

So yeah, BOT's spin wasn't that bad then.

Do you reckon my downforce theory could be correct? That the higher downforce is giving them lots of confidence in the grip levels, but when they're at low speed, they don't have that grip, and they're just being a bit overzealous at these low speeds.

Obviously they will be used to how downforce works like that, but in these new cars, the DIFFERENCE in downforce levels at low/high speeds will be much greater, which might be something they just have to get used to.

The reason I think this is because if you look at them driving these cars, e.g. Sainz in that WebM, they seem to visibly be pushing the car much harder through corners - because they can, because of the downforce. Last year's cars, you would see them not pushing the cars as hard in corners. Which obviously makes full sense.

And yeah, in that WebM, Sainz loses grip as he slows down - when the downforce on the car will greatly diminish.

>>75165097

I think dog owners are sad incredibly needy losers, who love the idea of an animal being obsessed with them and paying them endless attention, because humans don't due to them actually having standards.

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>>75165081
There's an old saying in Perth... I know it's in Germany, probably in Perth...
That says, trick me once... Shame on, shame on you...
Trick me... You can't get tricked again.

>>75165129

Because it makes bogans mad :^)

>>75165136
>>75165146
>>75165106
Wobbler fans have PTSD and therefore hate Tricky to make themselves feel better about the past. They're literally mindbroken.
I think this explains the mindset. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5nJF5MDGJg

>>75165146
Jokes on you, I have never owned a dog.
But my idea is that dogs are simply more useful. You can take them for a walk, play with them, etc. Cats mainly mind their own business. They can be compared to rabbits, guinea pigs or any other 'normal' pet.

>>75165210
We used Guinea pigs to keep the grass short.
The cats didn't go near them as they always squeaked wherever anything went past the cage.

>>75165106
These cars are just too sexy hnnng

>hated cats with a passion as a kid since they always shat in our sandbox
>hate wore off over time tho
>gf likes cats
>about to move in together
>won't have time for a doggo anytime soon

I wonder what that might lead to...

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Reminder that Kimi was once held as one of the greatest f1 drivers

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>>75164869
CUTE

>>75165210
Cats are as intelligent and cognitive as dogs are, they just live in solitude. They are happy to play with you if they feel like it.

>>75165145
Slicks on wet. No grip. Car is hydroplaning. Let /ourboy/ Kubica show you how wrong tires can beç
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5Saaxw2RTU

>>75165370
You will break up with her, quit your job and get a dog r-right?

>>75163822
That outside front tyre did not look happy at countersteer.

>>75165374

Reminder that literally everyone thought that after Schumi's retirement it would be a decade long domination by Alonso and Gimi

Instead, Vettel and Hamilton basically won everything with a few memes in between

>>75163822

It's really odd that cars are losing it like this

I ge tthe track is a bit damp maybe but still, you rarely see total loss of control like that when crusing at SC speeds, like with Verstappen and Bottas.

I think Pirelli may have designed a tire that if it loses grip laterally it is just gone forever and there's not much you can do except slow down and hope you can catch it.

Can't wait for someone to literally die at Eau Rouge/Radillon, Pouhon, Blanchimont or 130R

>most of the best drivers doesn't have a GP in their own country
But we got Azerbaijan,Bahrain and now Turkey?! Thank God!

>>75165136
>australian

He is a zipperhead m8

>>75165136
no, only poofters like the contrarian. He probably votes for the Greens too.

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>>75165573

Makes me kinda frustrated to see how things turned out. Kimi lost his edge because he relies too much on his natural talent. When his car doesn't exactly fit his driving style it all goes to shit and seems like he never worked to improve that.

And then there's Alonso who can alter his style more but flushed down his Mclaren stint and hasn't made a single good choice after that.

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>Kvyat gets his own grandstand Russia 2016
>Ricciardo gets his own grandstand Australia 2017
>Verstappen gets his own grandstand Belgium 2017
He'll be fine

McLaren-Cosworth when?

>>75165874
>Verstappen gets his own grandstand Belgium 2017
it's so nice to see how proud his home country is of him

>>75165926
>implying that a single Belgium fan will sit there

It's going to be filled to the brim with toothpastes. In fact there's going to be even more than last year.

>>75166009
>implying that a single Belgian fan will even be at the circuit, never mind the amx verstappen stand
Spa will be amx city until further notice.

Lads help me

Why are Red Bull supplied by engines from TAG Heuer? Don't they make watches? Or can you sponsor engines now?

>>75166096
they are buttmad with renault

>>75166096
Yes

>>75166096
TAG Heuer bought Cosworth

>>75166096
TAG compiled all their knowledge about tiny gears from watch making and produced a better engine than honda

(Northern) Irish here, who should I be supporting? Liking the English drivers makes me feel dirty.

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>>75166142
This bloke needs a mate.

>>75166142
Esteban Ocon.

>>75166142
Schumacher of course :^)

>>75166160
kek

How many years in f1 for erik's son and he still has no fans

>>75166142
Adam Carroll in Formula E? he drives for Jaguar

>>75165457
Maybe I dunno. The track doesn't look that wet where Sainz and Verstappen slid out. Or Bottas.

And they were definitely slipping and sliding in Barcelona testing too - on the dry days. I don't think a damp track is the only cause.

>>75165493
Because it's struggling for grip, and it's trying to turn an ~800kg car (with fuel it would be about that).

>>75166009
Do Belgians support Verstappen or do they hate him for betraying their country?

I'm guessing they support Vandoorne mostly?

>>75166179
he has a few very important fans since they're bankrolling his stint in F1

>>75166142
Decide whether you're British or not mate

If you're British then support Hamilton

If you're not then fuck off back to your potato farm

>>75166198
I can bet on it. That was he's certain to lose.

>>75166198
bad post 1/10 delet ur acc

>>75166239
that WAY
fuck

>>75166160
>>75166179
Is it possible to like Marcus?

>>75166161
I do like Ocon.

>>75166174
Was always a Schumi fan when I started back in the 90s, never really liked Irvine though.

>>75166180
Why would I watch an inferior racing series?

>>75166212
Kek, had to include the Northern due to the wrong flag on my posts.

>>75166197
My guess is, cars are a lot more reliant on downforce and when they catch a slide, sideslip angle further reduces the downforce because you only care about the air coming from front. On top of that, cars are strictly designed for certain streamlines with little to no tolerances. Sliding might fuck the airflow badly.

>>75166275
>Why would I watch an inferior racing series?
Formula E is certified KINO and if you think otherwise, you're delusional.

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>>75166275
>Why would I watch an inferior racing series?
>implying

>>75166321

Formula is full of memes but there's no way >fanboost and >switchcars the series can be above F1.

Indycar on street circuits < Indycar on ovals < Indycar on actual race tracks < F3 < F1 < GP2/F2

Maybe GP3 will be less shit this year but it was a bore last year aside from the amateur driving mistakes

F4 is too slow to watch and you have to be pretty turboautismo to really follow it, F3,5 is actually pretty good but no one gives half a shit about it.

>>75166374

Formula E*

It's also just funny that its supposed to promote how awesome electric cars are and almost every single race is strict energy management even when they switch cars halfway through.

Also GP2 was pretty damn shitty in terms of driver quality in a couple of years, namely 2010-2012

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Holy shit guys, imagine this turn in the current gen of cars.

Drivers will pass out

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>>75163763

Jesus christ just put a fucking roof on it already. That's where this is leading anyway so let's just go straight there and skip the years of experimenting with these abortions.

If you want to see what a single seater with a roof might look like check out the Praga R1, pic related.

>>75166403
but that's what made the last race so good
I like that it's so different to other racing series and there's absolutely no muh tyres or muh aero

>>75166275
>wrong flag
If you're from Northern Ireland it's the right flag mate.

Although really it should show that flag for the whole of Ireland, or indeed any other rightful British clay.

>>75166420
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/monster-f1-cars-hitting-peaks-of-8g-in-melbourne-886185/

I'm more interested in circuits with little to no runoff areas like Monaco. People can go full $tr0££

>>75166300
Yeah I reckon it is something like this. As I say I first noticed it at Barcelona testing. If you remember, Bottas and Stroll both had slides into the wall, but other cars were sliding around too.

Watch the Red Bull here at 0:42 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpJuAxK-fS4

It slides in a way that last year's cars didn't. I think last year's cars didn't lose grip so suddenly. And I think it is to do with the increased downforce, and a sudden loss of it.

Because obviously it is the increased downforce which is allowing them to turn much more aggressively into the corners. Last year, they had to be more careful, skirting on the edge of grip, not going too fast. Now they are going flat out with the downforce allowing that, but I guess if they aren't going fast enough then they don't have the downforce and they slide.

I don't know though, I'm a pleb and an idiot, not an aerodynamicist.

>>75166321
>>75166374
Why is GP2 better than F1?

>>75164784

This guy gets it.

HABBENING. ROACH GP BACK NEXT YEAR

https://twitter.com/metinmete/status/851859315719905280

>>75167229

>lose Malaysia
>gain Turkey

hmmm, not too bad

Now if we could just get rid of eternal Abu Dhabi, Sochi and Shanghai and replace them with a good US or Euro track and we would have a perfect calendar.

Really not looking forward to Paul Ricard btw, hopefully the Bernie connections will make that not happen as that track is simply not a good one and the carpark squiggly line runoff shit makes it so terrible to look at.

Maybe Spielberg will finally increase its power level and F1 will race on the old circuit again.

Why is Liberty Media so based bros? It's almost like they care about their product and fans

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MY TIME

MY FUCKING TIME

>>75166483

>If you want to see what a single seater with a roof might look like check out the Praga R1, pic related.

tbf that's not really relatable, it's not an open wheeler.
Also I don't think they are going to add a closed cockpit in general

>>75167229

Are they going to name it, dare I say it, European GP?

>>75167409
>it's not an open wheeler.

I know, just imagine it without the wheel fairings and headlights. They will have to go closed cockpit to avoid these horrible looking head protection solutions.

>>75166718
My Irish passport says otherwise.

>>75166837
Stroll will hit peak of 50G or more

>>75167804
Fuck off back to Paddyland then you fucking potato farming cunt

>>75168202
Where do you think I'm posting from?

They need to bring in different flags for the different "countries" in Great Britain and Lesser Britain

>>75167024
>but I guess if they aren't going fast enough then they don't have the downforce and they slide
No, not like that. Downforce just generates "lift" force, but directed to ground. Literally a reverse wing. You need grip, and grip is friction of the wheels. Friction is more or less force times coefficient, since they can't increase, the weight, they add reverse wings, so tires can turn with the "force" of a muh heavier car. And since the car isn't actually heavier, it turns sharper. 700kg car, turning with 4g's mean tires are applying 2800kg of cornering force.Basically downforce is just a way of aerodynamically applying "weight" without adding mass.

Why I described is, less speed = less downforce, but also less cornering force. There's no such thing as "you need to be at least this speed or you won't be able to turn", car still behaves normally. Rest of it is correct.

I am 95% sure it's like this. I can't be 100% sure. I'm drinking.

>>75167348
based roach
I'd actually go to that race if Turkey wasn't such a dodgy shithole

>>75167229
OH FUG MY SHEKELS

>>75167454
At least Istanbul Park is located barely 20km from Europe, whereas Baku is more than 1500km, almost in Central Asia. Certainy makes more sense than a Caspian shore.

I don't fucking know why people call Russia, Balkans and Turkey Europe. We are Eurasia.

>>75168357
tfw Turkish whisky is no more ;_;

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>>75168282
British clay.

>>75168323
They already do.

Great Britian: Union Jack in top left, White southern cross on right, White 7 point star in bottom left
Mid Britian: Union Jack in top left, Red southern cross on right
Lesser Britain: Union Jack
Lowest Britian: A fucking leaf

>>75166197
I support both, they are both driving in a different class, so it is ok.

But yeah, the weekend of the Belgian Grand Prix, there will be traffic jams due to the amount of toothpastes who come and visit

>>75168450
>Russia, Balkans and Turkey
I meant Caucasia.

wew

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>>75168464
>British clay.

>>75168357
Pretty sure downforce is not -lift, but it's +lift directed down, so "reverse" is not the best way to refer to it.

I'm also not entirely sure, because I'm also drinking

>>75168570
Fuck middle, Marry right, Kill left

>>75168630
mate if you fuck middle her dad will kill her anyway

>>75168357
>Why I described is, less speed = less downforce, but also less cornering force.
Well yes, but still, if you are trying to turn quite hard, at a relatively low speed, while giving lots of throttle / torque through the wheels, then you're going to slide right?

>There's no such thing as "you need to be at least this speed or you won't be able to turn"
I'm not saying you won't be able to turn, but you will necessarily have less grip because of the lack of downforce, because you're going slowly, so there isn't as much air flowing over the car, pressing it into the tarmac.

Obviously it always the case for any car that it has more downforce when it is travelling faster. But yeah I'm just trying to understand why the 2017 cars seem to slide more, or at least lose grip more suddenly and dramatically, than the 2016 cars.

And I'm thinking it's perhaps because the difference in downforce levels between low and high speeds is *greater* than it was in 2016 (because these new cars generate more downforce at speed), that the drivers are getting caught out when they're driving at low speed. I.e. they are just getting used to how these new cars drive. I don't know. I'm just guessing.

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>>75168561
Interesting

>>75168570
Mate Northern Ireland is still British clay, you're ruled by Westminster and Queen Liz herself :)

>>75168597
How many drinkers are there on this board? Also, isn't it the early hours of the morning over there?

>>75168518
You're ruled by Queen Liz too m'lad. Get used to it.

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>>75168597
Force itself is different than the job done. It's called lift, because airplanes and birds were there first. They probably named it "downforce" to avoid the confusion.
Lift doesn't have to be opposite direction of the gravity. It must be whereever the lifting body wants. Pic related. "Body lift" in action. It's simply shaped as a capsule, no wings. Weight placement creates angle of attack, which in turn creates lift, so it capsule doesn't dip well deep into the atmosphere and burn up.

>>75168988
That's different. Low gear + high rpm = more acceleration force. That's why you get wheelspin in first gear and not 5th gear. Difference here between normal cars is with increased downforce, you get increased traction, where you use it doesn't matter. Acceleration, braking, turning. F1 acceleration is basically downforce limited until 150-200km/h. Like, if they could go full throttle at 200km/h last year, now it's 150km/h.

It must be actually harder to spin if it's "caused by wheelspin." For casual oversteer spins, must be something with the airflow fucking up. Maybe height, maybe wing design, I don't know. Maybe simply the fact that they rely on it too much and simple loss of downforce is uncorrectable because tires don't have enough grip anymore.. Don't know..

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I think that Aus anon might be onto something with his oil burning conspiracy

>source: press release by one of Mercedes' sponsors

>>75169380
>For casual oversteer spins, must be something with the airflow fucking up. Maybe height, maybe wing design, I don't know.
Yes it could well be this.

>Maybe simply the fact that they rely on it too much and simple loss of downforce is uncorrectable because tires don't have enough grip anymore.. Don't know..
Do you mean, the drivers rely on it too much, or the aerodynamicists?

I think you mean aerodynamicists; fair enough yes it could be that.

I guess my point is about drivers though (maybe it's a stupid one I don't know). They're having to get used to these new levels of downforce, after eight years of similar levels, from 2009 - 2016.

Obviously they have much more of it through the corners so they're pushing much harder than last year to exploit that. But at low speeds obviously the downforce drops away, so maybe they're just getting a bit caught out by where that threshold lies. Yes they're driven a fair amount in testing, but that was on one track. Yes they go in the simulator, but that is still just a simulator. Compared to eight years of driving the previous cars for lots and lots of laps, at many different tracks, around lots of different types of corners.

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isn't max great

>>75170232
>I guess my point is about drivers though
If you mean drivers relying on downforce, it's wrong, only downforce, hence traction, increased.
But otherwise it should be. Like, they always want to be on the limit. Maybe they push over the limits while trying to learn where the limits are and fuck up.

I don't really know, cars ren't my strong suit.

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Has this already been posted?

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>>75170514
he's certainly special

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don't mind me just posting the more talented Max

>>75171481
I'm more /teamtomchilton/

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>>75171800
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VJDIeeSdAE&t=3m13s
forgot link (3m13s) have a cool plane

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>>75171879
>there was more action in that one race than a whole year of Formula one, I would say

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slow thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItT-UmJKTGQ
based Turkish creep

>>75172467

>wanting more action
>not watching ultimate racing kino

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOVyWwLy8Ls

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>>75172677
I like those

>>75172703
I thought it was going to be MWL. Disappointed.

>>75172703
>not listening to Phil Mills' talking for 15 mins straight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpDSPhECTSA

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>>75172714
which current driver is most likely to be a creep and why is it Ericsson?

>>75172864
a mixture of the fucked up teeth and the blank soulless expression

he really does have the rapey look about him

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>>75172937

>>75172864
not a current driver but Jonathan Palmer looks like one

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>>75172864
He fucked Mana when she was barely 13

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>>75172937
You wouldn't want to meet him down a dark alley

>>75173003
>Sweden muscling in on our teeth game

>>75172958
Palmer is the type of guy to keep insisting you came back to his place after you told him no 7 times

Palmer is the type of guy that feels you are entitled to sleep with him because he brought you a $5 drink at a bar

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>>75172958
they both look a bit dodgy

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>>75172937
Magnussen has fucked up teeth even after wearing braces

>>75173085
Which one's he again? Joe, Lee, or Palmer?

>>75173085
The father has the look of a disgraced Geography teacher about him

Runs some good circuits, but don't get in a car with him

Fucking stuck on a train in the middle of nowhere for hours. I should just buy a car ASAP so I won't have to deal with this shit anymore.

>>75173030
>tfw parents spent all their money on gokarts and couldn't afford to buy you braces

>>75172937
There definitely is something uncanny about his face

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>>75173369
>implying males are allowed to drive cars in Sweden

>>75173446
>implying males
did you just fucking assume xis gender??

>>75173446
Don't fucking remind me of that debacle, altough even "regular" snow clearing couldn't have dealt with that snowstorm. It was the most snow we've had in November for over a century.

>Marcus Ericsson is shi-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewce1QNDiZ0

>>75173766
amazing how Magnussen's left front tyre survived that lap

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What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class from the Red Bull Junior Team, and I’ve been involved in 182 grands prix, and I have over 42 race victories. I am trained in racecraft and I’m the overtaker in the entire F1 paddock. You are nothing to me but just another Webber. I will blow you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit about me at the driver's press conference? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of Fiat dealerships across the world and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that sends you right back to Formula Four. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can overtake you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with an RB10. Not only am I extensively trained in racecraft, but I have access to blown diffusers, KERS, lawyers and innumerable other things that I can use to end your career, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will beat you to death with my four championship trophies. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

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>>75173860

*dabs*

>>75173860
>and I’m the overtaker in the entire F1 paddock
stopped reading there

>>75170629
>Maybe they push over the limits while trying to learn where the limits are and fuck up.
Yes. I'm just saying maybe they are having to relearn where the limits of the grip lie. Obviously since they have lots more grip at high speed, they might get complacent. Because that extra grip doesn't exist at low speed (I guess there's a little more because of the fatter tyres but that's it)

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>>75173860
Quelle le baisage did you just fucking say about moi, you peu bitte? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my lycee in the Renault crashing academie, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Fernando Alonso, and I have over 1 confirmed race bans. I am trained in wheel-to-wheel warfare and I’m the top divebomber in the whole of Swiss motorsports. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will crash you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on la Terre, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of Maldonados across Venezuela and your telemetry is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, connard. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your engine. You’re fucking dead, mome. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can end you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just at La Source. Not only am I extensively trained in losing my front wing, but I have access to the entire arsenal of Scuderia Ferrari and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable car off the surface of the track, you little backmarker. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, tu fichu cretin. I will shit la furie all over you and you will DNF in it. You’re fucking dead, putain.

>>75173919

>100 million for a dabbing Senna

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Question: who would you prefer to win the WDC? Lewis or Seb?

For me, it's Lewis Hamilton.

>>75174100
For everyone else, it's Seb.

>>75174138
this desu

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>>75174100
only for the """british""" fans

>Turkey, France and Germany return to the F1 calender
They really want those Muslim viewers it seems.

>>75174100
Seb, but Kimi preferably (for the memes)

I'd also take a Buttass WDC for the massive butthurt it would cause to Lewis and Marchionne

>>75174184
>the massive butthurt it would cause to Lewis and Marchionne
Seb would likely be upset as well

>>75173919
>the whole etihad stadium full of bananas for a black vitaly petrov

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>>75174100
For me, it's Sebastian Vettel.

>>75174138
You're a kraut, obviously you would say that

>>75174161
Faggot

>>75174170
I doubt a single one of them has ever even watched F1

Also Ham isn't even as black as any of them because he's half white

>>75174184
Gimi or Bottas would both be great but neither will happen.

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>>75174183
>implying it isn't a financial suicide since nobody has enough money to watch now because Erdoğan's shit central bank policy

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>>75174221

>>75174264
What's your opinion of Erdogan, Koksal? Good or bad?

>>75174264
who cares turkey provides decent races

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>>75174240
t. hamilton

I have opposed Erdogan for 15 years now he has destroyed my country, he has been a nightmare and he probably will have more power come next week but can't I have one thing please I would love to see Istanbul Park back on the calendar.

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>i rate hamilton

>>75174328
this comming from the guy who rates Ericsson

>>75174295
>not supporting your compatriot
Faggot

>letting some butthurt Alonso fans dictate your opinion of your compatriot
Faggot

>>75174320
Interesting

>>75174328
Tell me about how many WDCs Marcus Erik's Wife's Son has, lol

>>75174266
>implying I think ROS > HAM
>not taking into account Sebastian's 4x WDC titles

I like HAM and VET both but the latter spells the end for HWL, hence Vettel.

>>75174382
>"""compatriot"""

he's black, lives in monaco and speaks like an american

why would anyone support him???

>>75174345
tbf Ericsson is more likeable than Hamilel

>>75174393
>i support a kraut winning because it would mean the Brit would stop winning
Top cuck

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>>75174328
>scuderia

>>75174290
With 10000 viewers.

>>75174284
Köksal is our rednecks. Erdoğan panders to the rednecks and is a guy with power obsession. Went crazy in last years, especially after the last year.
I have a book, written by a colonel whom he jailed for "plotting a coup" in 2008. The book precisely names every single person. Every single person who got arrested got released after 5 years of prison. He KNEW everything. He let it happen to further enforce his position.

Can he possibly get more power? No. Our constition says president has to stay the fuck away from politics. Does he? No. And he brags about it. He also brags about vioating the constitution. High court just ignored his case.
Meanwhile lefties go crazy because "he may have power on high court", as if he doesn't already have

>>75174320
>German flag
Are you being a reddit faggot are you a son of an immigrant who always been shit people and overstayed their time and found a way to stay there after our labor deal ended in 1974?
Nobody likes Turkish-German people. Especially Turks. Especially those that illegally stayed there and got citizenship somehow.

>>75174345
When have I ever rated Ericsson?

>>75174382
0, he's a mediocre driver in a bad car.

>>75174405
1) He's half-white
2) I'm guessing you don't support any football teams if you refuse to support people who aren't white?
3) I'm guessing you're a virgin since you obsess over race so much?
4) He was born and raised in Stevenage
5) He's British
6) He's the most successful British F1 driver OF ALL TIME

Why wouldn't you support him?

Also, half the drivers live in Monaco. Doesn't Button live in Monaco? So did you not support him either?

>>75174408
>>75174478
tbhq it seems there's only one Swede here who shills Ericsson all the time

>>75174444
>hamilton
>brit

top lel

remember to eat fruit every day lads.

>>75174499
Yeah, Eric.

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>>75174463
>Köksal is our rednecks.
Apologies I didn't mean to call you a redneck. I'm just a fan of Koksal Baba.

I'm guessing you're not a fan of Erdogan then from that description.

>>75174444
I dropped that whole support your compatriot shit years ago. I'm a free spirit now desu

>>75174523
So I'm guessing you don't support the Swedish football team since Zlatan is Bosnian, right?

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>>75174499
I tend to defend him, and I've been called EIDF by triggered Aussies multiple times. Which is kinda funny since I have never ever called him a good driver, the biggest "praise" I've given him is that he was the better Sauber driver in 2016.

>>75174496
ah the ad hominems, the crap analogies

i can see you are one of hamilton's "family" as well

typical tricks there, tinotenda

>>75174531
>remember
don't need to, m8; i'm a vegan.

>>75174601
>watching football

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>>75174578
köksal is a great meme. But he's a cousin fucking redneck.

I am drunk, have a US trip scheduled and my money is worth 1/3rd of its value. Of course I am mad. I could have an okay holiday, now I have to rely on my fried because I can't even pay for the fucking ticket. There are lots of criticisms but I'm too lazy to list them all. Fucker basically does nothing right, except propaganda and securing his position and getting his friends to high places. One example. He keeps bragging about building big bridges.

Cost of the project to constructor: $2 billion
Daily traffic promised: 40000 cars
Actual daily traffic: 6000 cars
Estimated weekly cost for compensation: $10m
Estimated total cost for the total operating time: $20+ billion
The constructor KNEW they were retarded, so they kept the tolls extremely high. In the end, nobody uses it and they still get paid in traffic, not money. In the end it will cost 18 fucking billion dollars instead of two.

Fucker is doing the same thing for his car fleet too. All of his brand new fully armored full spec high prestige cars are rental, they pay 50% of the cars cost annually. Has been like this since forever.

>>75174762
2 billion dollars is a big bridge

>>75174870
For you.

>>75174589
So you cheer on Germany when we play them in football? That sort of thing?

>>75174643
ONE (1) ad hominem. So you're unable to answer any of the legitimate points then?

You never supported Button right? God forbid, because he lives in Monaco!

Please tell me how football is a "crap analogy"? Is it because you're unwilling to face your blatant hypocrisy? Unless you don't follow any sports, or support any teams, where there are any non-white athletes. In which case you would at least be consistent!

>>75174669
>not watching football

>>75174883
kys

>>75174929
It would be extremely painful!

>>75174762
>köksal is a great meme. But he's a cousin fucking redneck.
You're telling me he's actually fucked someone? Not bad for such a short man.

Fair enough about Erdogan. Sounds a bit like Trump but more inept.

Do you reckon he will end democracy and turn the country into an Islamic dictatorship? That's what our media tends to say.

>>75174971
>Sounds a bit like Trump but more inept.
No, not really. Trump is fairly elected person because he had fairly good promises. Corrupt asshole who brags about destablizing a whole region (which resulted ISIS) and killing so many people as a minister vs a bored non interventionist guy who had enough of military industry complex and China and try politics wanted to make the economy better by not spending money on those two. Of course Trump would win. Erdoğan = Trump is anti Trump propaganda. They're fundamentally different. The only thing remotely close is how he talks, like "lyin ted". I'm not saying Trump is good, but whole election was controlled opposition by DNC, especially Trump and Sanders. What they didn't calculate is, people liked Trump more than an insufferable bitch and it backfired.
Putin would be a better comparison. Actively destroys opposition, controls the media etc. He desires to be Lukashenko with this referendum.

It already is in practice. Like I said above, we have parliementary system. Our president is basically a "yes-no" guy and banned from politics. That clearly isn't the case, people tried to get away. Wouldn't say "islamic" though. Islam has nothing to do with this,in fact that's how he got votes in first place. Political islam was really fucking frowned upon over here and he was "better than moderate" tier guy with good accomplishments. Took over all the votes. Now people just can't find any options.

>>75175179
>That clearly isn't the case, people tried to get away
tried to send him to high court and he got away

fuck it I'm going to bed. I need to wake up early.

>>75175179
>>75175223
Thanks Turkbro I think I understand it better now.

>>75174170

There is no difference between supporting a driver because they have the same skin colour as you, and supporting a driver because they were born in the same country as you.

Both are equally pleb reasons.

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>>75175382
So all the Aussies who support Ricciardo, and supported Webber, are plebs?

>they supported them because they're cool guys! nothing to do with nationality!
And I'm the Pope.

>>75175422
>So all the Aussies who support Ricciardo, and supported Webber, are plebs?

Well... yeah, obviously.

Same with all the Dutch who ride Verstappens cock, and all the Americans who support """""American""""" F1 team Haas.

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>>75175487
People who support their country's football team, are they plebs too?

Pic related - it's you. You're writing off like 98% of sports fans, you realise that right? The only people who wouldn't support their country are contrarian 4chan virgins.

>>75175531
>supporting something by default because of being born in the same general area as the thing you support
Pleb tier
>following and liking a thing regardless of what country they are from even if it happens to be the same country you are from
Not pleb tier

>>75175350
I just saw this. The video is criticizing democracy and supporting one man regimes in a meme way. I have never seen something so retarded whole year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jw_g_Yi6n-Y

Description is precisely what >>75174463 was about.

>>75168570
>arr matey we're bordin yer' ship

>>75175531
>People who support their country's football team, are they plebs too?

I only ever mentioned F1 drivers.
Any idiot can see the difference between a team selected, paid, and trained by a country, which officially represents a country, and bears the name of a country, and an individual, in an individual sport, who is only competing for themselves.

If you need to twist my argument to make a counter argument, you obviously can't make a decent counter argument.

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>>75163744
Predictions for Bahrain, /f1/?

REMINDER GIMI HAS FINISHED SECOND IN FOUR OF THE LAST FIVE BAHRAIN GPs AND HAS NEVER HAD A CAR AS GOOD AS THIS YEAR'S FERRARI

>>75175795

Also... still waiting for someone to explain how supporting a driver because you were born in the same country is any different than supporting a driver because you were born with the same skin colour.

TARD LOGIC:
>hurr hurr look at these fucking niggers who support Hamilton, it's only because he's black
>hurr hurr I think the driver from my country is the best driver in F1 because he was born in my country

>>75175833
>Gimi winning in the season of AFLALOL

Nope.jpg

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>>75175631
So you're not the guy who is constantly reminding /f1/ that McLaren was founded by a Kiwi?

Do you think that Kiwis who support McLaren for this reason are plebs?

>>75175795
I didn't twist your argument at all mate, I made an analogy. If you can't recognise what an analogy is then you're obviously a bit slow :)

Anyway you're completely wrong because drivers absolutely do represent their country. Which is why they are registered in a country. And it's why we hear their national anthem if they win the race. And it's why they care so much about their home race. And it's why people from their country support them.

All the Aussies who went to Melbourne to fly Aussie flags, wear Red Bull gear, and support Ricciardo - are they all plebs then mate?

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>>75175905
Because most people aren't racist?

>>75176028
That's the problem

>>75175833
>HAS NEVER HAD A CAR AS GOOD AS THIS YEAR'S FERRARI
>what is the 2005 McLaren (after the reliability was fixed)

>>75175833
he doesnt care about a podium theres no booze
he will finish 4th
vet
bot
ham

>>75176137
it was never fixed they got destroyed by renault in china who proved they had the best car all year and able to go just as fast as the mclaren
his best car was the 2007 one obviously

>>75165106
That is one Montoya™ overtake.

>>75176174
Kobayashi™-esque if I do say so myself

>>75166420
Lateral Gs don't cause blood to pool in your legs like the vertical Gs aircraft pilots pull.

I can't believe there are so many retards on the planet that say shit like this.
Shut up you fucking mudslime
fuck off

>>75176174

Quiz time. Should Montoya have stayed in F1?

http://www.strawpoll.me/12728076

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>>75176587
Definitely. Too bad he fell into Williams' mediocrity and Dennis' autism. I really liked him.

Has there ever been a year with better rookies than 2001? Gimiii :DDD, Alonso, JPM........... and enrique bernoldi

>>75166197
I don't have anything against Verstappen, great driver, even greater meme, but I really hate his fanboys/dutch media they are on the same mental level as Hamilton fans.

I support Vandoorne, I guess most Belgians do, but we know he can't do much with such a car. Could be a betaberg if he had the right car.

>>75165106

>going into corner
>don't pull an AMX and leave 1 1/2 cars width on the outside
>get 75% passed
>going out of corner
>better assert dominance now
>try to push opponent to edge of track
>touch wheels
>sure showed him lol
>get 100% passed