Things that football lost during the last 10 years

slide tackles
hard tackles
fouls that arent yellow cards
pace babbies without any skill
black/white boots
free kick specialists
proper ultras

>>75018879
Those all still exist.

>Things that Spain lost in 2017

Gibraltar

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using shit pitch to beat better opponents

strike partnerships

now you have just great strikers, not a great strike partnership of 2 as a pair and you dont say ones name without the other

Aubameyang is a true 9

>>75018852
black boots/guayos/shoesies whatever you want to call them

>>75018922
Lost implies they had it before

>>75018852
True 10's like Rui Costa. Only a couple teams have still 10's like Arsenal which is the reason they're wank. Most attacking midfielders aren't even true 10's anymore, look at Isco for example.

Lol, probably the best true 10 in the worl is being benched right now (hamez rodrogiloguez)

hard men, guys only there to be cunts and rough the opposition up

true long ball game as a first choice option

5 at the back

>>75018939
My bad

>>75018926
Same for guys like Bacca and Dost etc. 20 years ago Bacca and Dost would both be considered worldclass.

>>75018924
Only England doesn't have ultras which is why a your games are library-tier

>>75018922
That was in 1710s if I'm not wrong.

>>75018924
>strike partnerships
Good times

match fixing

>>75018968
You are talking about players who understand how the team work and actually colaborate in high pressure or even defend.

I'm talking about guys who were either with the ball about to shoot or walking totally disconected of the game. Fatnaldo for instance.

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Player's with this style hair

>>75018924
>tfw no more pacey lad big lad partnership

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>>75019058

>>75019071
Hitz and Sommer

fullbacks whose best asset was stamina instead of pace
and fullbacks who can both attack and defend

>>75019094
>fullbacks whose best asset was stamina
Lichtsteiner

>>75019070
perfect example are RVN/ Inzaghi and for the brits kevin phillips

literal poachers who just goalhang

they still exist but not at the top level

>>75018852
True #10s. Slow, "lazy", clever passing-type players who didn't have to defend. The rise of defensive midfielders basically killed them. Guys like Riquelme, Ozil, Van der Vaart...they don't exist at top clubs anymore.

>>75019109
>one player

>>75018852
2006 czech republic was goddamn based, how the fuck did they not won anything?

>>75019126
Schmelzer too arguably. He's not particularly pacey, just keeps going all match. Durm has a pretty good mix of pace and stamina, even though he always looks flushed after 15 minutes.

>>75019126
Marcos Alonso, too, though obviously not as good.

target men like duncan ferguson

>>75019119
They can exist today but is what the dutchs considered a river player, so they ended up as fake wingers instead of classical 10. Not even Ronaldinho was able to play like that, maybe Kaká is the closest without considering Messi.

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>>75018852
I miss those saggy shirts and shorter pants. Nowadays you can make out the nipples, but can't see the legs, that's not right.

Another thing that was lost was the parity in European competitions. Back when the likes of Ajax could legitimately challenge for the every top. Sure, CL has its upsets even now, but back then it was a lot more unpredictable.

>>75019133
Not every good team wins trophies.

England was pretty good at the time as well, Spain was not a bad side, either, but they were underachieving in 2002, and 2004 tournaments.

>>75019149
Sneijder and Cassano are probably the last 10s of that kind

>>75018947
>le hoofball

Good riddance desu

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>>75018923
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tytFYgBMyxU

>>75018947
>5 at the back

But 5 at the back exists nowadays too. Do you specifically mean the variant with 2 man-oriented stoppers and one libero?

>>75019109
Yeah but he can't do anything else, can't even cross a ball

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Real men like this.

People who clearly drank multiple bottles of spirits everyday and still put in a shift.

>>75019276
THANK YOU BASED BULGARIAN WOLFMAN

>>75019250
p good but they didnt win.

>>75018924
I figure Torres/griezmann or gameiro/griezmann are actual strike partners. Alli/kane play like it too sometimes.

>>75018926
He is a winger turned striker.
If anything he is a sign of the death of true 9s.
True 9s were lampposts with a good shot.

>>75019094
In the modern game most fullbacks tend to have both though.

>>75019339
No they weren't.

Ronaldo and Batistuta are true 9s.

Literally everysingle one of the stuff listed in this thread still happens in Latin America

>>75018923
It still happens, see Bolivia vs Argentina last week

>>75018924
Griezmann/Torres, Biguain/Dybala, Alli/Kane, Ronaldo/Benzema*...

When they play in a 4-4-2, which they have done pretty frequently over the last few years with Ancelotti and Zidane.

>>75019160
That has more to do with money though.

It's because with the evolution of PEDs all top footballers have the athleticism to carry out hybrid roles that cover a lot of the pitch

If you watch lower tier football where they're not out of their minds on drugs then the traditional, specialist roles still exist

>>75018924

POGBA/IBRA

>>75019403
>pogba
>striker

>>75019339
Thats the poacher. Then there were strikers like fatnaldo who made runs from deeper positions.

>>75019435
>>75019339
id say we have 3 types here

fatnaldo was a pace babby/dribbler who could run past defenders

a classic 9 is something like shearer, can do it all but slow and immobile. usually atleast 6 feet tall

then a poacher i would say is a small fox in the box, just sitting on the 6 yard box for a goalmouth scramble, always first to rebounds and all his goals are tap ins like pippo inzaghi

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>>75019194
>Cassano

>>75019398
Ever consider that maybe they're just less talented? In general PEDs are most prevalent among guys who are barely struggling to be pros, because they're desperate.

>>75019504
>fatnaldo was a pace babby/dribbler who could run past defenders
For about 4 years maybe then he became classic No 9.

Box to box midfielders

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smoking during training

>>75018924
Deeney and Ighalo last season m8.

footballers that smoked/did coke

>>75019919
Nainggolan has admitted that he smokes regularly.

>>75019919
Daniel Osvaldo smokes

They just cover it because they look unprofessional

out of shape/poor diet guys, like fatnaldo was a slob but still shitting on fools

True luxury players like Matt Le Tissier

>>75019160
Don't forget the cl/el was a completely different formate where it was possible to get a round of 16 without a single European heavy weight...

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>>75018923
>using shit pitch to beat better opponents
Southampton have that dodgy penalty spot though

>>75018852
>>true 9
Cristiano Ronaldo?

>>75019511
>Slow, "lazy", clever passing-type players who didn't have to defend
That's the definition of Cassano, without the commas on lazy tho

>Tackling with both legs nowadays is always a foul no matter what because it's too dangerous

Disgusting

>>75020359
tackling with both legs is 100% useless though

The Beckham type player.

A wide midfielder that wasn't fast or a good dribbler but had great crossing ability. They would put those perfect "Bananenflanken" into the box from deep, if you gave them a bit of space.

>>75020440
It's easier to slide

>>75018924

>no more cole-yorke

:(

>>75018947
>true long ball game as a first choice option
fuck that

>5 at the back
pretty common at the BuLi

>>75020149
Did you read the part of knowledge besides memeplayers?

>>75018924
I'm so happy I can watch Mbappé-Falcao or Griezmann-Giroud on a weekly basis.

>>75019730
Wtf they are as common as ever, specially since 10's disappeared.

>>75019937
Box to box CM smokes in >le current year.
Holy shit.

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>>75018852
>Things that football lost during the last 10 years
>wingers
>true 9
>dead balls

Not really senpai...

>>75018852

good English players

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>>75022727
>Griezmann-giroud on a weekly basis

how the fuck do you keep up with all this shit?
t. american who barely follows two sports.

>>75019285
this

>>75018947
5 atb is going to be the new 4-2-3-1

>>75018910
Give me two examples of free kick specialists

Players who just get by on their talent and still make a mark.
Robbie Fowler wouldn't have made it today.

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>>75019119
>True #10s. Slow, "lazy", clever passing-type players
This. >my team has one like that but he's getting old and now he's injured.

>>75024420
Just stop following those two sports and follow soccer. Like how nfl people will know what's going on in cfb, maybe even higschool level stuff. Projected draft picks, coaching personel moving, etc. The same as following soccer.

>>75026066
Based boca centurion crashes a car like once a month, had a DUI and carries the team playing like a fucking caniggia speed and robinho dribbles hybrid.

Good thread

>>75024265
Giroud scored 3 goals at the Euros plus they have a really good partnership, which is what football is about.

>>75025950
Messi, Neymar, Alaba, LCIM, sideways pass man, hamez.
I honestly can't take this question srsly, since most top tier strikers or midfielders have dead ball prowess in the current game.

>>75026591
Griezmann/gameiro is so much better though.

>>75018852
>i never watch Serie A

Wise up son.

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Small Goalkeepers

>>75028781
Goat for so many years though.

>>75019071
What a qt

>>75028942
Imagine this midget playing in 90s Serie A. Fucking lol

>>75028942
Why do people rate this "athlete" again?

>>75022162

>no more sheringham-solskjaer

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>>75028942
>2-1
>shitalian defending

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>>75028859

>>75028578
I feel like the conversion is lower.
Also, maybe teams are choosing to shoot directly less times.
also, there were players whose main hability was taking free kicks. In fact, this is the main point.

>>75019378
Alli is not a striker though and always plays behind Kane and next to Eriksen

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>>75018852
Centre back that actually can defend

>Sergio Ramos and Thiago Silva is now considered as best CB in the world

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ragtag squads

>>75019919
Rosicky m8

>>75019396

He didn't say it didn't

>>75019094
azpilicueta , marcos alonso?

>>75031933
every time someone mentions pique or ramos as remotely good defenders, i cringe so hard.

>>75032517
It's more of a problem with the position's name itself. Yes, they're defenders, and yes they're incredibly talented, but defending is not what they excel at. They're really good players individually, but they're not great defenders.

>>75032517
well its all relative to the era theyre playing in. they might not be "remotely good" when compared to the goats, but they are still up there and make up for their shortcomings in different ways

>>75025950
Pjanic and Chalhanoglu

>>75031933
This. I miss world-class CBs.

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>>75032517
>>75031933

>>75033025
The same first 2 that I thought of as well

>>75031933
Phil Jones.

>>75028781
tiptoeing AGAIN

>>75018924
aguero-negredo was pretty good until negredo ded

>>75018879
>pace babbies without any skill

These make up most of today's football though

>>75019070

Ronaldo is the opposite of what you're talking about though. He was the most complete striker in history.

>>75025950
Cristiano Ronaldo

>>75031933
Sokratis has bit of that old defending style

>>75019504
>Shearer
>slow and immobile

Did you only see him at the end of his career?

>>75020110

They weren't common 10 years ago though. Ronaldo was an exception because he's the GOAT. Any other top level player in the shape he was in and had the injuries he'd suffered would be forced to play lower league football.

>>75031933
Benatia if he wasn't literally always injured

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Kits that weren't made in China/Vietnam/Bangladesh
>pic related

>>75025950
Pjanic and Payet. Free kick specialists would be players that are good but whose main skill is free kick, which is the case for the two of them.

>>75018852
Referees dressed in black

>>75020110
He just got away with it because he had GOAT-tier speed and technique. Out of shape players were really rare at the top level 10 years ago, you could basically count on one hand the number of players who could get away with being fat if it happened to them.

>>75018852
Number 10s. Riquelme is probably the last one

>>75031933
Godin is the best.

>>75033753
I said Fatnaldo.

At his Halal era he was pretty useless in many aspects of the game and goat tier in what he knew how to do. Best 9 we'll ever see, and the pre-injuries I'm pretty sure is the second best player I'll ever see, but on his post 2002 he was just focused on one aspect (and he was goat at it)

>>75035569
He was still brilliant in his first 3 years at Madrid.

POACHERS
Only one that comes to mind is CHICARITO

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>>75018852
been more than 10 years but this guy right here....

>>75031933
Chiellini is literally the perfect example. He's not quick, very agile or the best passer. But he is so incredibly good at pure defending. Remember that crunching tackle on Ronaldo two years ago?

>>75019372
>current Argentina
>better than Bolivia or any other nation for that matter

>>75035244
Van der Vaart was probably the last one. Maybe Ozil.

>>75026149
so fuckking right hue, i miss Riquelme so much

>>75018924
Having Suarez and sturridge up front was great

>>75040910
That was really just Suarez with an inferior player riding his coattails though. Replace Sturridge with Torres in that same season and the results would have been more or less the same.

>>75019058
today several players and the coach of a catalan team were arrested for a game they lost 12-0 against barçaB

>>75018924
Vardy - Okazaki

Players that wouldn't cry like little bitches when the opponent had fun making a fool of them, would just get a good hit in and fuck off instead of crying on interviews

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u70jFB_Nw70

you would think he fucking punched someone

Good Center Backs. Now we have meme lords like Thiago Silva

>>75018879
>black and white boots
Do you know how hard it is to order just regular black boots these days. Faggot divas ruined football.

>>75018924
I love this shit

sweeper

>>75019504
>fatnaldo was a pace bby
bullshit. I still remember enough of Ronaldo to know that he was clearly a:
>pacebby
>strengthbby
>dribblebby
He was an anomaly. Literally all you could do against him is hope and pray he fucks up somehow.

>>75022094
>Bananaflanken
I gotta remember that one, thanks. Reminder: Schweinsteiger used to play outwide. Rosicky too, and I don't recall him being particularly fast.

>>75019091
>both play in the Bundesliga
>both are goalkeepers
>both are swiss
>both have a retarded way of writing their first name
always found it kinda funny

>>75019372

>Literally everysingle one of the stuff listed in this thread still happens in Latin America

FKING THIS!


pd: the good old days... ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEidD-j_EnQ

>>75042139
How can europe ever compete with this

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*win golden boots*

>>75042242
Best pure "slow" 9 I've ever seen tbqh.
There are few of those left, but none that comes close in knowing where the ball would be.

Simply insane.

>>75019504
Ronaldo had enough strenght to take on 2 defenders at the same time man, he was a fucking machine

>“I remember the defenders were all afraid of him. That’s the word at the time of facing him.”
— Alberto Zaccheroni

>“Ronaldo is the hardest attacker I’ve ever had to face. He was impossible to stop.”
— Alessandro Nesta

as this guy said >>75041895, you could only pray

Fatnaldo at 32 years and weighting 95 kilos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6UmS2ykX1w

>>75019058
What are you talking about? We just saw the a Korea 2002-tier refball a few weeks ago

>>75019133
Because Silver goal and grease

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>>75019919
but Wilshere is still alive

>>75026149
VOLTA DOUGLAS

>>75019306

Yeah Alli has been playing closer to a 10 and Kane closer to a 9 when they are both on the field and healthy. Eriksen sometimes overlaps with Alli in the 10 role.

>>75025950
david luiz

True 9's are a good thing in some teams.
Luca Toni is a great example. Hell, you could even consider Gomez one, that man is only good at finishing.

Also I miss liberos and wish they's come back. Even 7th or 8th tier coaches (sometimes without linesmen) insist on the 4-at-the-back nonsense.

>>75047746
*sweepers

>>75047758
They are gone for good because they make, simply, a stupid role in modern football.
Any team that uses a sweeper is going to get destroyed.

>>75047818
On a top level perhaps. Not even sure on that, see Grease winning Euros.
On an amateur level you don't need to play a fucking offside trap.

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>>75019076
pls watch our league

It's /pol/ tier but I miss when the national teams weren't made up of 50% foreigners.

>>75041423
>Center
>We
>TF