What went wrong?

>>75010480
MESSI IS THE TEAM, THATS IT

>>75010480
they hit their peak and messi failed to capitalize. now they're heading back to being shit

>>75010553
>>75010573

Will they be able to get into Russia 2018?

>>75010646
if their offense wakes up, sure

>>75010695

But their offense is basically Memessi.

>>75010695

they have scored less goals than Venezuela this qualifier and theres 4 games left

are we really start with the "best attack" meme again?

Grondona died

>>75010808
thats why they need to wake up you moron, theyve been under par

>>75010727
true, but even he has been shit. 4 goals, two of which were penulties is pretty dire. only 2 assists as well

Need a proper coach. They are somehow less than the sum of their parts.

How can you be this shit with the players that they have it doesn't even make sense.

>>75011190
The sum of their parts is the best team in the world. No other team has their individual quality.

>>75010480
They were lucky enough to be gifted the best player in 30 years but instead of embracing Messi, they punished him.

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>>75010480
The 4-2-4 sure as hell can't help.

>>75011021
This. Simple as that

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>>75010480
SAVE THEM SAVE THEM NOWWWWWW

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>>75010480
Can he save Team Argentina?

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>>75010480
>What went wrong?

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he got old

>>75011624

SOMEBODY SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVE MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>75011304
You mean the 4-2-2-2

1. Messi is the team
2. Players only want money so they move around
3. See above, scattered players
4. As a result, 0 team chemistry
5. Toxic home fanbase

>>75011237
Does people actually believe this?

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>>75011673

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we tried everything, no regrets about "wasting the GOAT"

We tried making a team that works without him, and putting him on top of it, so he doesn't feel the pressure (Basile). It didn't work.

We tried making a team that plays like Barcelona so he can feel comfortable (Martino, Batista). It didn't work.

We tried making a team that is good at defending and making him the center of our attack, Maradona 1986 style (Sabella). It didn't work.

He chokes against Brazil. Okay, Brazil is a great team. He chokes against Germany. Okay, Germany is a great team. He chokes against Uruguay, okay, they are world champions.

We sacked coaches and players because he didn't like them (Riquelme, Tevez, Basile). We put in coaches and players just because he asked (Martino and his Newell's friends).

He doesn't score in KO games? Maybe he's saving up for the next game. Maybe he's saving up for the final.

Now he had this chance in silverware. He only had to perform against Chile (so you understand how small they are, 3 people died celebrating a Copa America). Many people would have hailed him as the GOAT, even though winning a Copa America of which we have 14 already doesn't mean much.

Not only he doesn't perform, that's okay, another bad day. Not only he doesn't score, it's okay, 11 KO games without scoring, but it's okay, he's still good. Not only he doesn't assist, it's okay, it's your team mates right? They are your friends Messi, you sacked Tevez, you asked for Higuain and Aguero. But okay, we get it, you didn't assist.

On top of all that, he doesn't even run. He just walks the pitch. Fuck him.

>>75011112
>under par
it always was the case. wc 2014: 8 goals in 7 games. the problem is with the defense, that under sabella's was solid, but now is back to shit again.

they need to swap aguero for icardi

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>>75011021
this desu

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>>75011783
I don't know what's worse: the formation or the absolute state of that back four.

>>75011783
who said blacks would never be able to invent the wheel?

>>75011725
riquelme>messi
nuff said.

>>75011673
>>Carlos Bianchi

>>75012376
not really comparable, finals always have low no of goals scored nowadays. wc qualification 2014 they conceded 15 in 16, now theyre at 14 in 14, virtually the same. they're also the second best defence in CONMEBOL. difference is that in 2014 quali they scored 35 in 16, now theyve scored 15 in 14.

the problem IS the offense.

>fraudza

>>75010480

What went wrong;

>Forcing Messi to play with some of the most Pecho Frio motherfuckers on this planet.
>They stand and watch him play instead of creating space for themselves.
>Everyone is unfairly putting the blame on Messi for losing 3 cups when in fact that was the fault of the most Pecho Frio player to every disgrace a Jersey, Higuain.
>Not Calling in Icardi because Messi isn't to happy that he stole his friends bitch
>Bauza is Manager
>The entirety of the Defense.
>Aguero, Di Maria mis-pass or just straight up sky any attempt given to them on a silver platter.
>Toxic Home Fanbase that don't see how Messi is killing himself trying to backpack an entire National Team, knowing that he could have and should have played for Spain.
>Bauza is Manager

I think I covered everything....

Oh Wait

>Higuain is still getting called up.

>>75012201

Yes. Because they play for top clubs and perform at those clubs, only for them to return to Argentina and suddenly its another episode of

>Messi and Acquaintances

Similar to Wales (Bale, Ramesy & Co) from the Euro except they(Wales) aren't Pecho Frio.

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>tfw you won't call up the solution to your scoring problem

>>75010480
nothing they will still qualify

>>75016133
>Messi should have played for Spain

I cringe everytime.
I hope Argentina doesn't qualify an fans spit on Messi, then maybe somehow his buttbudies at Spain get him a place in the team for 2018 Russia.

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>>75016099
so the problem is the defense then.

>>75016133
>Not Calling in Icardi because Messi isn't to happy that he stole his friends bitch

this is a meme. Icardi wouldn't change shit

now you forgot to cover ROMERO instead of an actual gk

>>75012300
he just made the 17th best team in Europe into the 16th best team, GOAT manager material

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>>75016511
kys faggot

>>75016497
nope

>>75010695
No. BASED Peru has it on lockdown