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> 3.5 WC slots for these counries. how is this allowed?

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> 3.5 WC slots for these counries.

how is this allowed?
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cash me ousside how bow dah
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>>74944342
This WC their .5 plays AFC's .5
Going to be good
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Having USA and Mexico qualify is very profitable for FIFA.
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Mexico, USA and Costa Rica are top 32 in the world. Honduras/Panama/Jamaica are maybe top 50.
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>>74944342
>yfw da Bahamas wins da worldc up
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>>74944342
Asia gets 4.5 and literally all their teams are garbage.
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>>74944467
the after party would be nuts
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>>74944342
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>>74944450
Lol

The only reason they are top 32 is because theh can statpad against shit islands, but usually get btfo with teams that matter. Hell, if they merged the two confederations into one, no country from concacaf would ever go to the world cup ever again.
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>>74944342
It's like OFC with two Australias
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>>74944342
asia gets 4.5

do you think you deserve it?
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>>74944477
lol
I think China / Uzbekistan could beat Jamaica / Honduras or whoever. I guess we'll see in the intercontinental playoff.
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>>74944546
Bahrain failed to beat T&T in 2006 WCQ Playoff
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>>74944552
yea and Bahrain are dogshit, even that 06 who refballed to get that place.
and that T&T was their best ever or something
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>>74944342
I think asian teams and concacaf teams are roughly on the same level with exception of japan team that is a little better than them
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USA/Mexico/CR all made the RO16 last year and CR made a decent deep run

meanwhile Asia blew dick as usual
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>>74944574
This year
One of Australia, Japan, Saudi Arabia, or Uzbekistan will be the AFC's 5th placed team and will play whoever CONCAF's 4th placed team in a play-off
I put my money behind any of those AFC horses tbf
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>>74944574

No

CR was one penalty shootout out of the semifinals m8
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Why does the USA get to go to the World Cup every time? I hate watching these fucking queers pretend to care about a sport they don't know.
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>>74944586
>not believing in Syria
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>>74944578
Mexico are generally better than all of AFC teams
USA fluctuate but have done better the last two WCs. If they qualify this time I would love to see my team (Iran) play them again
Costa Rica have a golden generational thing going on which is great but not really representative of their usual level
I'd be happy to play any CONCAF side barring maybe Mexico in the WC
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>being worse than Haiti
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>>74944342
CONCACAF is objectively better than Asia.
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>>74944608

I'm just saying pound for pound they are currently doing 3rd best behind Europe and Conmebol

People rag on the USA but they do pretty well in WC play due to patriotism skillboost
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>>74944600
Alri
For brave Syria
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>>74944634
Have you seen the USA so far in qualifying? They have no midfield at all and are relying on a teenager to carry them. It's not looking good m8.
Anyway, I guess we'll just have to see
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>>74944644

Half the team is suspended or injured and they still won the last match 6-0

I am not worried whatsoever, they weren't taking things seriously before
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>>74944653
>won the last match 6-0
1-1
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>>74944652
DELETE THIS
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>>74944653
they drew 1-1 with panama
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>>74944661

Meant to say second to last match, last night was a road game so it was going to be qualifier to slight victory at best
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>>74944634
africa is better than concacaf
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>>74944683

maybe in 2010
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>>74944537
Honestly there's only like 8-10 countries in the world our top 3 wouldn't beat.
Mexico has memed teams like Croatia, France, Italy. The US, Portugal, Belgium. Costa Rica, Uruguay, Italy and England the past world cup. You'd think these would beat >us 4-0 every time.
Honduras, Panama and Jamaica aren't used to big international tournaments but they would put a decent fight against teams like Finland, Peru, Tunisia, etc.
African NTs never play to their full potential because they lack cohesion. Asian teams like Japan, SK, Australia and Iran are good, but doable.
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>>74944730
>Mexico
Would get its ass handed to them

>Honduras, Panama and Jamaica aren't used to big international tournaments but they would put a decent fight against teams like Finland, Peru, Tunisia, etc.
When's the last time Finland was at the worldc up?
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>>74944802

>When's the last time Finland was at the worldc up?

I think his point is that our non-qualifying meme teams could hang with yours
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>>74944546
our team is full of old farts and league 2/3/MLS squad players. our best young player ever doesn't get called up, our and Morgan never takes his Leicester meme magic with him.

but I still think we would beat China. Why? Name one Chinese NT player.
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>>74944342
Te tenemos de hijo pu70
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>>74944830
Your non-qualifying teams are still top 6 in your confederation
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>>74944902
You haven't seen them play under Lippi. If you don't have a united team with chemistry behind those names you'll get done
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ur-ZNgtbBxE
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>>74944902
>Name one Chinese NT player
Wang Dong. Not sure if he still plays, though.
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Having watched qualifying and WC games from both Confeds over the years:
1. Mexico
2. AFC Big 5, Costa Rica, USA
3. AFC also-rans
4. CONCAF also-rans
5. The litter that's left
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>>74944928

Well it isn't a very big continent there is it la
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>>74944586

australia OUT asia
australian posters OUT 4chan forever!
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I don't think Mexico would do THAT bad in conmebol. I can see them winning against Peru, Paraguay, Bolivia, Ecuador, Venezuela, even Uruguay and Colombia. As long as we got some points against Brazil Argentina or Chile we shouldn't do so bad.
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>>74944902

Jamaica would wax China's ass, no question

the ABConcacaf's on here are going too far
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>>74944973
australia IN
new zealand IN
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>>74944955

Did you catch the part where the USA has made the RO16 twice and quarters once in the past 4 WC's?

who from Asia has a similar resume?

South Korea with the power of the worst refball of all time in 2002?
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>>74944985

would you like it if australia came to USA world cup groups? they would beat you up.
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>>74945005

>Asia's premier team is the total categorical meme of Australia

shaking in meh boots Shinji
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>>74944998
I did. They have been pretty dire since 2014 though. Maybe it's because I have 98 shades on but I don't think USA is anything more than an even match with the big AFC teams
>>74945005
They wouldn't do that
>>74945015
They're not the premier team atm
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>>74945041

Have you learned nothing about qualifiers? Even the best teams have ruts where everyone is shit and out of form and careless. All that matters is when it's time to show and prove at the tournament. Focusing on a two game sample size of garbage that is ultimately irrelevant just reeks of wishful thinking.
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>>74945041
>>74945015

they go to any continent they want to.

and you cannot even defeat panama.

fuck australia.
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>>74945065
I wasn't just talking about qualifiers
US is a team in transition relying on a teenager to carry their lifeless corpse
I promise that if they qualify for the WC they won't make it out the group stage
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>>74945078


>Asia had 0 (zero) wins that past World Cup
>they think they should even be allowed to sniff CONCACAF's ass
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>>74945078
Oh come on Kenji, that's not very nice.
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>>74944981
Don't talk about futbol ever again
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>>74945090
oh and old man dempsey, who will be 35 next year
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>>74945090

>I promise that if they qualify for the WC they won't make it out the group stage

Next summer Pulisic will be another year older and better (and he is performing very well now), and we will have the full team back including Fabian J, Yedlin, Geoff Cameron, and Co.

I don't believe you actually follow the WC since you seem to have derivative, tunnel vision thinking that one or two qualifying games with half the team on the field are indicative of tournament form

this will easily be a better team than 2014
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>>74945118

and Iran has ________
while Australia has __________
and Japan has Memeji Kagawa
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>>74945105

there should be arabs in one's own arab competition
there should be old soviet union countries in europe with russia
only asian eye countries should be in asia

an australian and iraq should never meet when the between is 11,500 kilo.
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>>74945135
Pulisic is good, he can be great
but at 19 or even 20 he's not ready to carry a national team
the help around him isn't good or able-bodied
I'm sorry if you can't see it but the US has an enormous rebuilding job on its hands.

>>74945146
If you don't follow football don't talk about it mate
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>>74945135

also Bobby Wood who is looking very effective
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>>74945159

I have no idea why you're being so delusional. We never have a problem in World Cups.

Focus on getting a international win first buddy, then you may talk to me about it.
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>>74945107
Don't let that 7-0 fool you weon
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>>74945180
>We never have a problem in World Cups.
It's like you don't remember 2006. it's also you don't really understand the problem, which is perfectly natural for every team, that I'm explaining the US has
>Focus on getting a international win first buddy, then you may talk to me about it.
what did he mean by this
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>>74945193

I mean Asia is always shit and yet you think this is "THE YEAR" that they're better than CONCACAF

after all Asia is doing pretty well against Asia right now
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>2014 World Cup
>two R16 extra time games
>one quarterfinal

Meanwhile in Asia...
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>>74945209

0

(ZERO)

group stage wins

Honduras could beat their best team

fuck it just let Jamaica burn them with pace
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>>74944520
lmao what happened here?
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>Canada below Haiti

lmao
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>>74945629

>Canada below a team that is about a solid 4 days away from dying of starvation and has a pre-game meal of dirt cookies and malaria water
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>>74945209
Iranian cuck BTFO
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>>74944652
How the fuck are memexico ranked 17th in the world? FIFA's rankings suck.
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The World Cup should just be teams from South America and Europe. North America, Asia and Africa are just stealing spots from better national teams.
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>>74945911
>SWEDEN YES
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>>74944342
Tbh concacaf has been doing pretty well at the world cup.
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>>74945968
Very good counter-point.
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5 slots for CONMEBOL+CONCACAF unified
10 slots for UEFA+Asia
1 slot for Africa+Oceania

Only 16 teams
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>>74945911

bleh, the top 3 CONCACAF teams are going to be better than the extra shitters you shoehorn in from lower Europe
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>>74945911
But teams from those continents always finish ahead of yuro teams
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>>74946003

That's no fun

Group Stage chaos is the best part
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>>74945209
Iran almost tie against us
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>>74946004
Oh yes, I'd much rather have Costa Rica and Panama in the WC over Netherlands and Portugal. Totally!
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>>74946005
And South American teams and European teams always end up on top
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>>74946034

CR held the Dutch to 0-0 and took them to a shootout back when they were still good

funny you should mention them
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>>74946080
>European teams always end up on top
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_FIFA_World_Cup_Group_D
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>>74946080
A small handful of them that aren't in question. This is about the worst euro qualifiers
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>>74946080

Well if NA teams were world beaters they'd get more than 3.5 slots, right

the point is there are still at least 3 competitive teams in that part of the World, this being the "World Cup" after all
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>>74946090
One lucky run doesn't mean anything. If Costa Rica manages to get to Quarters again, I'll gladly eat my own shit. But we both know that's not happening.
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>>74944574
Mexico/USA/Costa Rica are a tier better than Japan and slightly better than South Korea. They have one or two good players whereas we have a decent team and some good players as well (Pulisic, Brooks for USA)
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>>74946155
Ehhh that's a bit strong imo
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>>74946139

Not uncommon for CONCACAF to have a member in the quarters

CR was one of the most consistent squads in that tourney, if you want to call discipline luck
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>>74946174
I would definitely call it a fluke. Costa Rica are not a team that's going to get to the quarters consistently. Getting there in the way they did was impressive, but not something they're going to do again in at least 30 years.
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>>74946205

If you want to call any small country that has happened to put together a good squad for a certain period of time (as is common anywhere in the world) a "fluke", then fine. It's still precedent.

I'm sure you're used to the title
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>>74946167
Im not joking. The top 3 Concacaf teams are better than SK/Japan/Australia both by recent tournament performances and by squads.
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>>74946228
I would absolutely call it a fluke. Greece winning the Euros 2004 was a fluke too; regardless of how well they played.
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>>74945685
He was being an idiot so I let it go
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>>74946252
lol
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>>74945875
Sweden had zlatan.
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Iran is a shit team. Who is this Muhhamad who thinks his team is better than ours? South Korea I can understand but Iran has done fuck all
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>>74946311
Who knows. These third worlders will get fucked in the group stage while USA goes to the knockouts.
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>>74946311
Someone who knows about the sport while you learn from wikipedia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfynuSPNTPA
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>>74946304
Ironically our team under Zlatan has been the worst one since - well, the worst I've been alive to see anyway. Not because of Zlatan, but because of our shitty manager. We've been much better since both Zlatan and Hamrén (the aforementioned coach) left.
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>>74946338
>a game 20 years ago against our team of amateurs

Lol. Now look at where we at. Ive seen the USA play in a tournament final, reach two semifinals, beat a top team in that semifinal, win our world cup group and all within the last 10 years. What has your burja team done, Ahmed?
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>>74946155
But that's horseshit. Mexico you could make a case for. But I highly doubt the Current US > current Japan.
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>>74946369
Japan has an absolutely trash backline and goalkeeper. Our midfield is slightly better due to Pulisic (who plays more minutes in Dortmund than Kagawa their best player) and Johnson and our backline is a tier above theirs with Brooks and Cameron.
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>>74946365
Klinsmann was a good manager though (I know I'll get shit for this. But he gave us a good successful run).

I don't know much about arena. But if he's relying on 35 year old forwards (not named Ibrahimovic) for goals it's fair to say there's a problem.
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>>74944342
potential growth of the sport. north america has a 100 million more people than south america, and they are much much richer.
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>>74946365
You keep repeating that as if I don't know. Team USA fluked to a QF in the worst-officiated WC ever. In the next one they dropped out the group stage. In the next two they made it to the last 16, which is impressive. That was 3 years ago. Your team is not going to repeat that sort of form, perhaps not for a while, because it is decaying and the people coming in, so far, have not been good enough. You don't know anything about the AFC so you keep asking, but I won't spoonfeed you. I actually watch this sport so I know that if we happen to play in the WC, not a single brow would sweat.

You can keep redditcountryballing me all you like, your team has enormous problems. Iran's had similar ones from the last WC. Only ~8 of those players are in the squad now, there was a huge effort by the coaching staff to rebuild the team. Your rebuilding job hasn't quite worked out so far
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>>74944342
To give countries other than the US, Mexico, and Costa Rica a chance to qualify every now and then?
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Here's how should the slots have been:

CONMEBOL: 4.5
CONCACAF: 3.5
West AFC: 2.5
East AFC: 2.5
OFC: 1.5
CAF: 4.5
UEFA: 12
Host: 1

And yes, AFC should be divided in 2
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>>74946398
Right. Dempsey may have a Cahill-tier swansong at 18 at best but the fact that he's still your main man in that position is a huge concern. Please don't bring up Altidore or some workhorse like Wood, there needs to be quality.

Also USA has a debilitating problem in midfield, they really struggle with building up play unless it's from the wide areas through the fullbacks
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>>74946411
You dont know our team as well as you think. We will have better prospects coming in a year or two depending how fast they develop. Despite having a less than average team we made it to a Copa america semifinal winning our group in the process.

There is no decay in place and the only issues we have is our striker depth and who plays as DM.
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Every single AFC team finished last in their group in 2014. Three of the 4 concacaf made the knockout round, 1 made the quarters.
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>>74946443
Wood is a good forward and way better than any Iranian forward.
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>>74946444
The WC starts next summer, most of your players should be integrated by the end of this summer, this is a 4 year arc of preparation. If you are relying on 39 year old Tim Howard, 35 year old Dempsey, 30 god knows what that guy jones is, and 19 year old Pulisic, you will be dropped in the groups.
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>>74945996
Why were there 100,000 more people in Brazil in 1950 than 2014? Thats a typo right?
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>>74946460
lol
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>>74946365
The american team is in transition tho. Oldfags have experience but they just can't compete and a teenager is too young to carry a NT
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>>74946443
Exactly. That's what bugged the ever loving shit out of me in the last world cup. We essentially played the entire r16 match in our fucking box. Defending was great. The keeping was even better (Howard made the most recorded saves ever for a WC match), but absolutely nothing in firepower but hoofball.

Now we're entering it again with an 18 year old the only real attacking outlet.

Japan on the other hand has more and more players of their NT getting stints and gametime in Europe actually developing their skills. They may not beat the US defensively but they have something in their midfield and forward line.

We don't.
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>>74946492
The only oldfags are Dempsey and Howard. Howard is fine because hes a gk and experience is needed.
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>>74946492
Americans don't read. They post first, and rather boisterously, then asked to be proven wrong ie spoonfed. I've written that numerous times but they keep spamming it.
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>>74946495
I think it'll be an awkward WC for the US but Pulisic is a great gem to build around. You just have to hope there is the right scouting and coach staff around to build around him properly, ironically enough a bit like what the klansman/bradley had
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>>74946460
Wood isn't better than azmoun. Nonsense.
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>>74946470
Nope. How cn anyone have such a retarded opinion is beyond me but that happens when you're raised in a third world oppressive shit hole like Iran I guess.

Your team is still mediocre garbage compared to us and no amount of damage controlling or hypotheticals on how terrible we will do because so and so is 30+ wont change that.
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>>74946535
Azmoun plays in a shitty Russian league. Wood is in the Bundesliga in his first season and is Hamburg's best forward
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>>74946535
He isn't better than Azmoun, Ghoochannejhad, Ansarifard, or Taremi.

>>74946540
You don't know anything about Iran or the current team my little drumpfkin
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>>74946534
We need to make like Japan and get more youngsters in europe. Or at least European academies.
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>>74946535
The fc rostov Iranian? Nah, Id say Wood is better.
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>>74946581
You already are

>>74946563
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWPDTlrEYq4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNJ61BCVCaI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYiQQSuoKU4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb6Kn1iHvqQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmosfT2Hqm4
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>>74946565
I know enough to see that your team of small league club players arent better than our players. Sorry but until your Elo rating improves and you begin to do better in tournaments you're in no position to think you're better. Afc is hardly at Concacaf's top 3s level.
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>>74946607
>i know enough because I saw the wikipedia squad logos
>elo
lol
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>>74946604
Literally nothing impressive. Bayern and Atletico didnt take those games seriously and the other goals are nothing spectacular. I would be more impressed if he did this in a bigger league
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>>74946626
You didn't even know those games existed
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>>74946612
I mean, you can pretend to think you're better all you want: it flies against the facts. Its kinda cute how you pull these mental gymnastics though.
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>>74946632
Ive seen all the group stage games of the CL in the past 3 seasons. None of the big teams take them seriously. You have to be delusional to think rostov was a danger to them, thats why Bayern's defending and attitude were so lax.
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>>74946612
None of your players except that guy in the Russian club are promising or noteworthy. Am I being baited? Minor league club players like yours arent magically underrated world class players otherwise theyd be linked to bigger clubs.
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>>74946583
Again that's nonsense. Wood doesn't have anywhere near azmoun's technical ability. Russian league may be objectively worse than the bundesliga. But he's still an objectively better player.
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>>74946473
First because it was Brazil on finals with Brazil as host, second because Maracanã became "smaller" after it's renovation, so it would never be able to actually support 174,000 people.
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just screencap this retard and shitpost about it when Iran inevitably gets BTFO in Russia
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>>74946683
>None of your players except that guy in the Russian club are promising
What you mean is: Azmoun is the only one I've heard, the rest must be shit
And no, you're not right
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>>74946686
Wood does have technical ability otherwise he wouldnt have bailed out Hamburg like hes done this season in important games. And until that Iranian plays in a bigger league and not against Russian traffic cones I really dont care
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>>74946720
You don't have to see him in the Bundesliga to see he's better
For example, you could see him in the Champions League
but you do have to see him
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>>74944342
The WC can't be entirely South America + Europe
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>>74946699
They all play in shit leagues and theyre not special at all. None of those forwards except the Russian club guy are on Woods level. None of your midfield is on Pulisic or Johnson's level. And none of your defenders are on Brooks level - not to mention we have two young CBs in Spurs and Chelsea on loan.
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>>74946738
You've never seen them play
You don't even know how they are doing at their clubs
and yet you act like your misfiring team is miles ahead
it's amazing really
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>>74946745
Oh so your team is better because your midfield looks good

How good did they look in the world cup? How good would they look against Colombia, Paraguay, Costa Rica, Ecuador Argentina? Lol its cute that your small team can play pretty but they have to play against bigger teams first.
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>>74946745
>Youve never seen them play

Hardly. Its because those clubs play at an unremarkable level in Europe. Maybe if they played in a bigger league rather than stay in some shitty Greek or Dutch club then Id be inclined to see these magical world class Iranian players.
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>>74944981
And thats why you dont success
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>>74946720
>Azmoun
https://youtu.be/IZYPB92m4B0
>Wood
https://youtu.be/oyIb0a-tasc

Azmoun is objectively better quality.
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>>74946003
7 for conmebol+concacaf, pls
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>>74946776
I think every position looks good, which is not what I thought at the last WC
Only a couple of those midfielders played in the last WC though, and they did look good against Argentina, the african nations champions Nigeria, and even against Bosnia. I'm not afraid Iran playing against any of those teams. If they don't make it out of the group I think they'll cost another team their place.
The best part about the team is, despite the youth and talent, they are all completely committed to the team. The coach's 8 year plan is reaching its apex and if he pulls it off he deserves a statue outside Azadi.
>>74946791
"World class" doesn't mean anything anymore and in any case, I certainly don't think you need to be "world class" to be better than a team like the US. If you haven't seen them or know about them, that's fine. The good thing is, you don't have to be at a big club to be a good player. Iran experience that fact first hand in the past when there were Bayern players in the team who didn't play as well as Persepolis players. I know the hand we have and I'm pretty happy about it, and the games so far speak for themselves.
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>>74946859
>Union Berlin highlights

Lol, now post his Hamburg highlights.
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>>74946864
If you play in a small league you're not that good.

None of those players are better than ours and your team certainly wont beat ours. Not to mention you wont even pass the group stage in Russia because you will be seeded with the top Conmebol and Uefa seeds who arent pushovers like those Asian teams.

I on the other hand can be confident that we will pass the group stage due to our recent tournament performances, especially last year when we grinded out wins against top quality south american teams
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>>74946908
The only US players that would make it into the starting Iran 11 are Pulisic at LM and Fabian Johnson at RB.
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>>74946937
Thats cute when half your squad are Iranian club nobodies and minor european club players lol. Brooks, Johnson, Chandler, Pulisic all play for upper table Bundesliga clubs. Cameron is a starter for a midtable Premier league club, Wood is linked to a move with Liverpool and is improving in a real league, and we have lots of youth prospects in Spurs, Chelsea, Schalke, Fiorentina, etc etc

Lets not kid ourselves here
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>>74946875
>Hamburg
https://youtu.be/wBis99MJK1Q

A bit better but still hardly technical. Not to mention he's got 2 years on azmoun and azmoun already looks better.
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>>74946984
I promise you it's true
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>>74946984
cameron hasn't been a starter much this season
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>>74947037
Pulisic has been playing second to Dembele also. It's only since reuse got injured that he's getting starts.
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>>74947033
You keep promising delusions. I just have to look at the clubs our starters play in and how our team plays in tournaments to know what we're capable of and not delude ourselves like you.
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>>74947037
Why is Stoke playing him as a DM?
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This namefag acts like an arrogant cunt desu
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>>74946690
I'm not surprised that the game could draw that many people, I'm just shocked that 174,000 people could fit in there.
Stadiums that fit over 100,000 are amazing to me and they almost doubled that. You hues are crazy.
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>>74947029
Those are goals in the Bundesliga, not against russian potato farmers
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Is Asia good at anything besides karate and ping pong?
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>>74947173
Wrestling, weight lifting, tanking superpower economies
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>>74947227
Hes talking about east asia, not the third world shithole that is the middle east. Most Americans dont think of the middle east as a part of Asia.
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>>74947168
So what about azmoun's goals in the Europa/CL? Guess those don't count either right? Lol.
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>>74947248
They're good at tanking your economies too
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>>74946515

You are providing no evidence whatsoever for "Asian superiority" other than "I just think so lol."

To top it off you're criticizing Americans while studying at one of their schools apparently. Moron.
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>this will be the year the USA sucks
>I swear!

Every qualifying stage

if you haven't gotten it by now we have an uncanny ability to overachieve thanks to the Patriotism+ chemistry stat boost
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>>74947281
They still have the equivalent of some dictator Pope in charge of their backwards middle east shithole so why are you surprised that hes dumb as fuck lol
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>>74947281
Because ultimately it comes down to:
Do you know the teams?
Have you seen the players play?
Do they have the intangibles to pair with their talent (spirit, belief, organization, chemistry, so on?)
I have seen both, team play you've only see one. You're trying to fit that piece of the puzzle with wikilearning and redditflag-posting you learned from /pol/. Ant that's all there is to it until the WC draw is decided, I would love for a 98 rematch against the US though.
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>>74947317
And you elected the pink Ahmadinejad and you're hoping he'll with cuddle with Putin enough to change his mind about the middle east
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>>74947322
I wouldnt because Id rather play against an actual good team to prepare us for the knockout rounds. Playing against Iran is like playing against Honduras.
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>>74947322

Yes

Yes

>spirit belief organization chemistry

You really, really think we lack in that? We've done better than England, objectively better on paper than us, in the past two tournaments, off of these qualities alone.

>/pol/

Are you literally just a meme generator at this point? FFS
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>>74947341
You can't even beat Panama you idiot
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>>74947348
We had most of our starters in the midfield and backline injured and it was an away game. Mexico also tied with Panama in their last game. Concacaf qualifying is far more grueling than playing some shitters like China or Thailand.
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>be paired in a group with Niggeria and fucking Bosnia
>0 (zero) wins
>the Caliphate of Iran
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>>74947374
They just beat Korea a week ago. If you think playing away in Panama is grueling trying playing in front of 80k Chinese screaming at you.
>>74947380
You don't know football if you think the AFCON champions and Bosnia were bad. They were both better teams than Portugal and Ghana in the last WC.
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>still getting baited by this retard

fucking lol
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>>74947173
The Brits taught the chinks a thing or two about taking over Africa.
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>>74947400

the Portugal team that won the Euros 2 years later?
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>>74947435
No, I mean the shitters that Bento, who was just sacked by Olympiacos, lined up.
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>Muh Mexico sucks

Mexico would do okay against South American teams. The only team that would probably always beat them is Argentina, but besides that I see them having an even record with anyone else and beating those closer to the bottom.
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>>74944355
A 9-0 aggregate victory for concacaf is not fun to watch.
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>assblasted iranian foreign exchange student namefag at fucking RUTGERS (LOL)
>he's furiously hammering away at his keyboard on 4chan trying to educate americans as to why his squad of 11 literally-who achmeds and muhameds are better than the USMNT
>Iran has have NEVER (0 times) made it out of the group stage
>USA has advanced from the group stage 4 straight times
you literally can't make this stuff up
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>>74947142
and still, they lost
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>>74945005
This gook mad as heck
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>>74947691
>4 straight times
That's wrong you nigger
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>>74944342
>how is this allowed?

indeed, they should have more spots, and take them away from asia and africa.
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>>74947691
idk you guys seem pretty upset by the notion that your team is actually not very good.
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>>74944342

How to fix CONCACAF

>The Ten land connected countries play in one large "league style" table like CONMEBOL
>Send the Pacey NigNogs and literal who islands to play against themselves
>1st-3rd enter automatically to the world cup, 4th plays against the winner of the NigNog Island tournament

Another alternative is 2 of islands enter the league table with the other 10, they would still have to fight their own little tournament to enter the winner and runner up though.

The other other alternative would be to send the islands to play against the winner of the OFC for .5 place.and keep the 10 countries like in the greentext.
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not fair how mexico can go against shitty countries but peru ecuador and bolivia cant
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>>74947886
Poor Venezuela. Also, Ecuador was doing so fine at first.
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>>74947886

The only reason Mexico is able to qualify is because of this, they should play in Conmebol
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>>74944342
They qualified 3 to the last 16 last time
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>>74944981
are you actually, let's say, dumb?
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>>74946473
back in the time there were benches just like in college football, not seats
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>>74946205
By that logic, Belgium was a fluke in the last world cup. Ghana in 2010 was a fluke. Portugal in the 2016 euros was a fluke. desu South Korea in 2002 was just refball, but still. You can call anything a fluke and get away with it. You could technically call Spain's 2010 win a fluke because they went out in the groups in 2014 and had an embarrassing defeat against the Netherlands.
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>>74947846
But they already do that. That's literally how teams like Nicaragua and Guatemala get into the round that the US, Costa Rica, and Mexico enter (the one before the hex). They already fight their own little tournament and then lose horribly in the next stage.
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>>74947322
if this is what the argument has come to, then the goalposts have disastrously moved from the OP
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>>74949179
The difference being that Belgium had a starriden team with high paid professionals playing in some of the best leagues in the world. If anything I would call only reaching the quarters a failure for them. Expectations were higher.
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>>74949179
>>74952489
>Belgium qualified 12x for the World Cup
>Only Germany, Italy, Spain, France and England qualified more often
>UEFA WCQs used to be a lot harder, a huge achievement, e.g. Portugal hardly ever qualified before the expansion to 32 teams
>Only once did we finish outside the top 16
>i.e. our worst finish was 19th in France1998 (going home "undefeated" after drawing all group games)

11/12 times among the final 16 teams is no fluke. Expectations weren't really higher in 2014. QFs were the bare min. and heads didn't start rolling after the exit against finalists Argentina.
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>>74945911
Half your European teams are African and middle eastern, Felix
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>concacaf teams were 8th, 10th, 15th and 31st in the 2014 cup
>chink teams were 27th, 28th, 29th and 30th
>concacaf get 3.5 spots
>chinks get 4.5 spots
Why is this allowed?
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>>74947691
>USA has advanced from the group stage 4 straight times
>implying
2006 and 1998
It's Mexico that's made it out of group stage 6 straight times.
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>>74944981
This Is unironically true Mexico would qualify no doubt, everyone In Conmebol Is Mexicos bitch except for Brazil & Argentina. Chile has their golden gen right now so they're putting up great games lately but history and statistics dont lie.
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>>74953485
yes, its actually 3/4 and 4/6. I'm not sure why you think 1998 was one of the last four WC tho.

btw, how did Mexico get eliminated in 2002?
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>>74944612
Shouldn't Haiti be one of the best? Yuros on here have told me the poorer you are, the better you are at sawker
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>>74953357
Kek, tell them how it is Muhammad. Fucking yuropoors love talking shit about all the niggers over here, then ignore the fact that all their good players are black. Frances team looks like it could be an NBA team
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>>74947339
You literally HAVE to go back my man.
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WC has always pandered to the non-european countries. In reality, at least 20 european countries should be in the WC.
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>>74947691
This

>>74947339
>having to come to another country to get educated because yours is such a backwards, poverty ridden, shithole
>talk shit about that country

Get the fuck out you ungrateful cunt. Can't wait until Trump goes after student visas and you get sent back where you belong.
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>>74944730
>Mexico has memed teams like Croatia,
FUCK YOUR MOTHER
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>>74955026
Kek, mexilards BTFO
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>>74944450
7 conmebol teams are top 22, we demand more spots
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A 32 teams world cup should have 20 teams from Europe and 7 from S. America, debate me.
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>>74955095
One day later and you're still mad

There are more prestigious universities in my country but I got offered a full ride to come and study in yours. Really makes you think
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>>74949267
As you can see, I'm not the OP
But i do think below Mexico, CONCAF isn't too much to brag about. Costa Rica's golden gen is an exceptional side, therefore, the exception.
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>>74949179
Of course it's a fluke, in a world cup it's always a fluke.

In one game of football it's at the most say 80% winning chance for the 1st ranked team against the 32nd ranked team. Usually in one match it's not over 60% for the favourite. If you assume there is no fluke to get through the group it's still 3 coin tosses to get to the final.

This is because it's hard to score a goal and easy to concede a goal, you'd need at least 10 games to somewhat get rid of the variance.
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>>74944477
The only teams in Asia that are even mediocre are Australia and Japan
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Americans getting blown the fuck out in this thread harder than Jimmy Carter in operation Eagle Claw
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>>74955486
>>74955479
im reporting you to trump for anti-american rhetoric

>its an iran has a good team for the first time in 20 years episode

enjoy desu
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>>74945875
When tf was this, our meme coach only has one loss. The infamous 7 a 0.
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>>74947617
new zealand aren't THAT bad
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>>74955486
Why do we keep ignoring the US's performance in world cups, conference cups and Copa americas since 1994?
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>>74958468
Yes they are
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>>74958629
(it was a joke because new zealand aren't actually in the AFC, i'm hilariously pretending i mistook them for australia)
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>>74958577
nobody is saying america is a terrible team but they also aren't great, which is what the evidence also shows

1 world cup knockout win in that period isn't great
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>>74944353
Cash deez nutz howbowdah
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>>74947817
USA always seem to be bad on paper but consistently overperforms on big games because of meme patriotism and the physical ability

if soccer was played on paper US shouldnt even advance in group stages the last 4 WCs
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>>74958773
But that means Englel is worse than us ahahaha
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