/nfl/ general

>>74921795
remember when half of the NFC east made the playoffs last year?
and it STILL wasn't the eagles
but ya'll are the kings of offseason delusion so

>>74921795
First for Oakland's mayor is a cunt but the situation was awful in the first place

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First for Cowboys' future dynasty!

>WOW PEYTON MANNING PLAYED LIKE SHIT HIS FIRST 12 GAMES IN THE NFL AND THIS LITERAL WHO QB ON MY TEAM ALSO PLAYED LIKE SHIT HIS FIRST 12 GAMES SO HE COULD BE THE NEXT PEYTON REALLY MAKES YOU THINK

Am I the only one to completely fucking hate stat cherrypickers or is it just my autism?

>>74921819
4rd for this

Is Jordan Hicks elite, lads?

>>74921935
Literally who?

>>74921886
Is that an specific case or just a general scenario?
Yeah, sometimes is funny, like when they're putting head to head an awful player with a good player having a bad stretch of games. But when they compare some rookie to an already proven player is rage worthy, especially if you know the network is just riding a bandwagon.

>>74921937
This.

Who are the biggest losers of the offseason and why is it the Eagles?

>>74921958
Bengals

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>>74921952
This game is retard central, I can literally pick a top tier class every time I try.

>>74921958
Bengals

Maybe the Seahawks as well, but it's hard to judge teams for not really doing anything

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>>74921958
it was definitely the cowboys

>lose 6 starters to free agency
>replace decent/average conerbacks with nolan carroll
>still have romo's 27 million cap hit

jerruh strikes again

>>74921972
>Allen at 33

uhhhhhhh

>>74921981
Exactly.

>>74921979
romo isn't staying on the cowboys for the season though

>>74921979
And yet they didn't overpay 2 exposed shitty meme receivers and a meatball at guard, whereas your shitty overhyped team did just that.

>>74921979
That's the kind of shit you'd expect from a SB winning team. I kinda feel bad for Jason Garrett.

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>>74921996
>cowboy fans are this mad at the iggles offseason

>>74921957
General scenario, doesn't even have to be a QB.

>my team just won 7 out of last 11 games
>my WR is only the second player in history to catch two one headed TDs in the 3rd quarter in on a Thursday Night under a full moon and dance makarena
Etc. Literal cherrypickery.

>>74922000
I can't help but think that the second Jerry dies Garrett's ass is fired. I think Stephen Jones knows the team can do better, but he doesn't dare take out his father's chosen coach while he's alive.

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>>74922005
Nice try, I'm a Bucs fan.

Your team is forever irrelevant whereas at least the Cowboys have won multiple Super Bowls. All your """fans""" just do is gloat about how you "destroy" the offseason yet every year, EVERY YEAR, they crash and burn and it's hilarious to watch.

>>74922010
the one thing garrett is good at is keeping the locker room together. i think he and mike tomlin are kind of similar in that respect, they're coaches that players want to play for.

>>74921991
since they didn't cut or trade him by march 9th, his 24 million 2017 salary already counts against their cap

now, they'll only save 5 mil after moving him

>>74922010
I unironically think Garrett is a good coach, cowboys organization and Romo's injuries haven't been favorable to him tho.

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>>74922017
>obsessing over the iggles this hard
>falseflagging as a busc fan

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>NE:Kraft: Pats don't want to move Malcolm Butler

>>74922017
>Buscs
Your team is literally the most pathetic in football history outside of that one SB year. Not an Igglefag either by the way.

>>74922029
The one single guy I know who actually coached football for a living swears to me Garrett is one of the best coaches in the league.

>>74922029
Garrett is completely average
Jerry is one of the worst owners in the league, bottom 5 for sure
Even if Romo stayed healthy, he's a huge choker. 12-4 regular seasons don't mean shit if you go one and done every playoff appearance

>>74922022
he might just retire, which would also save the $5 million.
>>74922038
this is kind of misleading though. obviously they don't WANT to move him, but i kind of see it as a sign that they're leaving that option open but need a really good offer, kind of like what they did/are doing with jimmy G.

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>>74922030
You're the obsessed one defending your shitty team, kiddo. The bottom line is that we all know that the Igglets are set to crash and burn with their meme acquisitions. Meanwhile, go back to jerking off to your lanklet quarterback and cartoon wolf girls while the rest of us discuss football without your needless circlejerking.

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>>74922017
>Your team is forever irrelevant whereas at least the Cowboys have won multiple Super Bowls.

daily reminder

in the last 20 years...

>>74922058
acknowledged

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>>74922058
Saintsfag here, can confirm. Fuck the Iggles.

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>>74922058
>he's still responding to frog posters
really makes you think

>>74922058
Raidnigger here, iggle fans are scum of the earth.

>>74922077
Better posting frogs that apehoop trash. Basketball isn't even a sport.

>>74922073
>>74922080
Samefagging

>>74922054
Well yeah, but once he knew Romo wasn't a guarantee he shifted the team to focus on the run game and bulked up the defense, which he did successfully. Maybe I'm overrating him, don't know much about coaching, but I don't think many coaches can really adjust to those kinds of situations. Then again, Jerry did give him the chance to stay there.

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>>74922089

>>74922092
honestly, at this point, I think stephen is running about 80% of the team and jerry is just acting as the face and making draft picks

>>74922092
it seems pretty elementary to focus on the run game when you have the best line in the league and drafted a back #4 overall tbqh. defense i would credit marinelli with also.

i've seen more of garrett's coaching than most people, and i'd say he's at the level where he's not hurting the team with his decisions most of the time. which for a team with as potent and yet simplistic of an offense as the cowboys do is really all you need

>>74922089
No, philadelphia is a 3rd world shithole. Visited Widener College in Chester and was laughing at the recruiter for the entire duration. Place looked like Mogadishu.

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>>74922095
explain this ?

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Go Hawks.

>>74922123
It always kind of puzzled me why every single place on the east coast not named NYC and Boston is literal shit. Baltimore, DC, Philly, New Haven, Jacksonville, Miami, all 3rd world.

>>74922117
>>74922112
That's really my only doubt about him, the fact that he may not be a crucial part in running the show, but those are the things you never know until he leaves, similar to what happened to the 49ers after Harbaugh left.

For all we know he could be another John Fox waiting for a Gary Kubiak to do things right, but I still believe he's a good coach and would give him credit for developing that Oline, and like I think police said, being a player's coach.

>>74922165
>t. westcoast fag who's never been east of colorado

Philly and DC are nice
Miami is pretty good, too.

>>74922170
>similar to what happened to the 49ers after Harbaugh left
Haurbaugh was a good coach though

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>>74922198
>Philly and DC are nice

No large American City is nice, and if you think Philly or DC are nice then you are beyond help friend.

>>74922221
>No large American City is nice
t. a literal hick

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>>74922221
>22221
Kek disagrees with you

>>74922198
Midwesterner originally, so I've been to the east coast plenty, and live in the southwest now. And no, Philly isn't nice, Philly is horrifyingly awful, and so is DC. The only good part about DC is the suburbia in NoVa and Maryland, the city itself is somewhere between Mariupol and Baghdad in the level of development and safety.

>>74922232
>flyoverfag thinking his opinion about american cities has any merit or value whatsoever
wew lad

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>>74921886
no, statfags are the worst
>Tom Brady is 3-0 when he shoots a snot rocket in front of the camera

>>74922245
Can't handle the facts? There's nothing but poverty, urban decay and niggers in DC. Also Miami is only 11% white, you could probably literally move to Caracas and not even see the difference.

>>74922226
Grew up bouncing around New Jersey and Susquehanna area: Atlantic City, Pleasantville, Camden, Philadelphia, New Castle, etc.

A city where humanity goes to die.

>>74922226
They aren't. And they smell awful.

>>74922271
>A city where humanity goes to die.
Miami?

>>74922226
literally nothing wrong with not living in large cities. People in large cities develop a mob mentality and if it were up to them Hillary would be president now.

>>74922381
do you seriously not see the difference between "nothing wrong with not living in large cities" and "No large American city is nice"?

>>74922226
The only good ones are SF and NYC, if you can afford it. The rest are ghetto shitholes.

>>74922389
Think about which people truly care about this country. Hint: They're not city dwellers.

>>74922452
how does that relate at all to my question? also generalizing that many people at once isn't really a good rhetorical strategy btw

>>74922460
>he fell for the open mind meme

wew lad

>>74922479
you think literally everyone who lives in an American city voted for Hillary and you're calling ME dense? look in the mirror, if you can find it

>>74922484
You're less likely to find the opposite in cities. And that itself is a fact.

>>74922484
#NotAllCities

>>74922494
Name me one city where they didn't vote Hillary. You'll find literally none.

>>74922490
>You're less likely to find the opposite in cities
ok? are you so fucking simple/weak-willed that simply living in a city would make you into some sort of Hillary-drone? this conversation is absolutely ridiculous

>>74922498
You really are a hick.

>>74922484
The only big city that voted Trump was Phoenix Arizona.

Fuck off to /pol/ if you want to discuss poltiics

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>post yfw Rodgers retires before Tim Bradley

>>74921979
Wait, you seriously think the Cowboys letting go of some old and often injured mediocre secondary players was a bad thing and they should've overpaid with limited cap space?

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K E K wills a Seahawks Owl victory in 2018
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>>74922509

t. chink

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>>74922722
I see your dubs, anon. Two Twos for the Owl No. 2.

Police12 is cancer

I'm fucking sick of the tripfaggots shitting up this general.

>>74923016
r u new?

>>74923016
this

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The Eagles are a nice team.

Why is every other AFCE team such a dumpster fire?

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>>74922017

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>>74923344
Dolphins are starting to get it together. The division just lacks consistency, remember that when the 2010s started the Jets were owl contenders. Bills...well they've been a mess since the music city miracle. Wish the realignment never happened so the Patriots at least had SOME competition with the Colts in the AFCE.

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jameis winston is only 23 years old

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mike evans is only 23 years old

>>74923771
>>74923759
>at least half of /nfl/ is already older than that

>>74922259
DC is the 3rd wealthiest metro area, and that's with Baltimore dragging us down.
Maybe you were here in the 90s. Shit's changedo, senpai.

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Reminder that the Patriots are Gods team to America

daily reminder that the eagles went 7-9

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i honestly love how belichick just gives zero fucks

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000795640/article/niners-gm-lynch-to-raiders-fans-jump-on-our-train
what a piece of shit

>>74924126
>Colts
>Cowboys
>Falcons
lel

also
>Browns
>6-2
>2
kek

>>74924159
Daily reminder that 7-9 was noticeably higher than preseason expectations

>>74924377
and you're proud of that

>>74924389
>Proud of being farther along in the rebuild than expected
Why wouldn't I be?

>>74924392
i dont think you know what a rebuild is

>>74924402
>implying the Eagles haven't been in a rebuild since Dawkins and McNabb left
a playoff appearance in 2013 doesn't change the fact

>Andy Reid was fooled into win-now in 2011
>Chip was fooled into thinking they were ahead of schedule after 2013
Only delayed the inevitable.

Gotta say I'm surprised they moved the Raiders, who have one of the most passionate fanbases in the league. I could see the Bills or the Bucs moving, but the Raiders?

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A bit off topic but please help me out: when is the soonest time these online fantasy football leagues start? Can't f*cking wait anymore, it's going to be only my second year doing it

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>>74924452
shut up faggot bucs fans such as myself are extremely passionate about our team

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>>74924452

> who have one of the most passionate fanbases in the league.

3rd worst attendance % in home games in 2016. Lowest total attendance per home game in 2016.

There's a reason they're moving.

>>74924126

Pic related

>>74924501

One year leagues usually draft during the last week of the preseason, so you've got a couple of months of waiting.

>>74924519
>3rd worst attendance % in home games in 2016. Lowest total attendance per home game in 2016.
Really? Even with their best team in years? I guess they were asking for it

>>74924519
Dam it! Thanks though

>based Stephen Ross only owner to vote against raiders move to Vegas.

>>74924508
Lifelong fan since 2016, eh?

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>The eternal bucc raider and cowfag eagles hating broship out in full full force
>Trying desperately to say eagles fans are being delsuional but they can't find a single post of any eagles fan claiming to win the off season or being the 2018 SB champs
Sad!

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>>74924552
lifelong as in lifelong

and i'm not going to waste time responding to posts with no basis and weight such as yours

consider yourself dismissed

Eagles fan here, We won the offseason, and we're going to win Superbowl 52!

>>74924562
reported for underage

member of the bucc, raider, and wowfag eagles hating broship here

recently woke up quite beside myself, pondering why oh god why I've invested any time at all in hating a team that has accomplished absolutely nothing in its long history and poses not the least threat to my teams' success this season

quite the quandary isn't it?

>>74924547

what's wrong with them moving to Vegas

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Eagles hater posts all day, obsesses about Eagles offseason, moves and players - AUTISM
Many such cases!

>>74924583
hes just a lolphins fag trying to feel good about his garbage team

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>>74924593
the owner of the eagles literally has autism

>>74924593
my dude you've literally such an incredible persecution complex that one bucs/cowboys/raiders can shit-talking your team makes you believe that all of us are when the reality is none of us really care that much about your existence beyond the occasional, always fun orson welles spam

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>>74924624
He isn't I!

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>>74924606
>Supporting a charity that helps people and families that have members that suffer from autism is a bad thing
>Meanwhile your Franchise does noting to help the community, they just take in ticket and merchandise revenues from their sheeple fans
>The eagles owner had autism (citation needed)
These eagles haters sure like grasping for straws
And when they can't, they just make things up

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>>74924655

>>74923344

Because the Patriots have been so consistently good for so long the rest of the division has become a revolving door of coaches and quarterbacks. The other teams bring in inferior personnel with the goal of unseating the greatest ever, they get embarrassed by Belichick, ownership thinks they're not the answer then impulsively jumps to the next thing.

Consistency is very important to being successful in football but no teams in the AFCE get a chance to be consistent because the owners expect too much too fast.

Who's the longest tenured head coach in the AFCE right now? Gase and Bowles, 2 years each.

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>>74924624
>I-i-i d-dont take time out of my day to post the eagles everyday like clockwork

>>74924675
All that says is the eagles owner has a family member with autism

>>74921972
Lattimore falls to #14 like everytime which is beyond retarded

Sucks that I have to wait a month to see what the fuck the Eagles actually do

>>74921972
>game
mock drafts are no game son

If fans of other teams don't know Jordan Hicks I don't blame them since he's not a big name but he's statistically one of the 3 best coverage LBs in the entire league

>Average NFL LB gives up a passer rating of 104 when targeted in coverage. @JordanHicks was at 53.7

>NFL owners are expected to pass a rule on Tuesday that will prohibit players from leaping over linemen to try to block field goal and extra-point attempts, sources told ESPN's Adam Schefter.

>Sources said the league feels the play is too dangerous and a player could get flipped over and seriously injured while leaping over the line.

How many years until that one South Park episode becomes actual reality? I just wish they'd get it over with and outlaw football at this point.

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>>74923016
>muh trips

Apply filter, problem solved.

>>74924293
buttmad raiders fan spotted

>>74921935
Undeniably yes.

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What did Cutler mean by this?

>>74925765
What does it mean if the first thing my eyes went to was his ass?

>>74925790

It's totally straight to appreciate another man's ass desu. I wouldn't sweat it.

>>74922123
>Chester
>A shit hole

Well obviously. But that's not really Philly. Every city in the US has a poor and run-down area at the edges. Actual downtown Philly is very nice.

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is it time for the return of the white RB

>>74921795
Jets: Completely fucked for years

Never followed a football, rugby, Basketball, hockey, American football or any sports team before.
Decided I should probably do it so people don't realise how autistic I am.

Unfortunately due to autism I'm pretty keen to follow american football, mainly because it looks the most interesting and has cheerleaders.

Where do I start? Pick a team and start watching or should I try and learn all the fucking rules first?
Also I don't want to follow a team of black guys, is that possible?
Was thinking because I'm British to follow the new england patriots with the intention to swapping to the jacksonville jaguars or whichever franchise gets the (((opportunity))) to move or set up in Londin in 2021

>>74923016
Actually, P12 does a good deal of actually talking about football and backing up their points. Unlike most anons in this general...

>>74925825

he will be Woodhead+

>>74925825
Way too small

>>74923759
Jameis Winston raped a woman, and faced no consequences because he was a famous football player at a large school.

>>74925856

> how to start

Play madden, watch games

> I don't want to follow a team full of black guys

Pick some other sport

>>74924556
Embarrassing for them, t.b.h.

>>74925873
source?

mmmmmmm cutler

>>74925825
cross between woodhead, edelman, sehorn, with a dash of mike vrabel

>>74925856
>Also I don't want to follow a team of black guys, is that possible?


Yes. Root for the Patriots. Almost their entire offense is white. That's as good as you're gonna get in a sport like this.

>>74925963
*except for mason, cannon, lewis, white, allen, cooks, mitchell,

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>>74925872

>>74925991
He literally is, he won't be able to carry the ball 25 times a game for 16 games without getting cracked

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>>74925989
>one of their black players is even named white

Kek

>>74925857
>rampant shitposter
>makes no insightful posts
>delusional eagles fan
>a fucking tranny

Yah no, they can fuckoff.

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>They think the Eagles won't improve!
Sweetie, It's brave of you to think against the grain, but the science is already settled.

>>74926137
>maga talking about settled science
ironic

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The irony is 100% intentional. The science is never settled.

>Bengals cut Maualuga

So they're confirmed for drafting Foster then right?

I don't really know how well he will do next year but Carson Wentz is cute so I hope he is successful

daily reminder that this happened
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/06/16/carson-wentz-was-trapped-in-a-new-jersey-bathroom-of-course/

>>74926324
its funny because its a metaphor for his NFL career

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redpill me on chris long

>>74926348
He's a cuck. Okay at football I guess.

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SIX KISS BITCH

I'M THAT PRETTY BITCH

ALL YOU MOTHAFUCKAS IN THAT RAPE GAME AINT KNOW NOTHING BOUTME

IM TRIPPIN BITCH
ICED OUT BITCH WITH YOUR GIRL ON MY DICK
LOUD PACK NIGGA WITH YOUR GIRL ON MY TIP
DAMN BASED GOD
IM A PRETTY BITCH

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>>74926348
Solid DE

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>>74925997
>there are "people" this wrong on /espee/

>>74926348
He's white power and solid player
Now we don't have to waste a draft pick on edge, try to develop mccalister and Smith while keeping current and Graham starting good
>>74926343
>>74926324
Reminder he beat 4 playoff teams in his 7 wins
Including super bowl falcons

>>74926348
Good DE and a nice guy

Nice choice

>>74926642
>regular season wins
>7-9
lol

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Tom Brady is literally going to be elite for 5 more years and there's nothing you faggots can do about it

>>74922038

Any other patsfag think that Butler is overrated? He's not good enough consistently to cover WR1s but he constantly gets talked up because he made the meme int

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>yfw da bearss win da superb owl

>>74926663
>Expected to win 5 games
>Had cardoard cutouts at corner
>Also at receiver
>Revolving door of offensive lineman that included 2 rookies
>RB committee inconsistent at best
I have confidence in growth

>>74926688
>Meme int that won a super bowl

>>74926677

fuck off Rob

>>74926702

Actually Hightower's stop of Lynch at the 1 yrd line won the owl

>tabor clocks unofficial 4.75
Is the madman sand bagging so he doesn't get picked by the browns or similar?
Nigga is slower than Terron Armstead in a straight line

>>74926737
Hawks had time for 3 more plays after that. Butler sealed the win essentially

>yfw Big Ben retires and Jay Cutler replaces him, before leading the Steelers to two Superb Owls.

>>74922073
Cocksucker

>NFL bans jumping over the line to block kicks

"Hey guys, let's just keep adding rules making it harder to play defense and easier for the offense. That's what people want. More rules. More points. Less defense."

>>74922080
Get fucked

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impossible, but wildly arousing draft
if this happened i would literally and uncontrollably jizz everywhere

>>74926744
i can't imagine why anyone would sandbag themselves though youre literally just throwing money away at that point because if i remember the difference in pay between a top 10 pick and a 25-32 pick is actually pretty huge let alone falling into the 2nd and 3rd rounds

and who gives a fuck if you play for the fucking bears, browns or 9ers. if you are confident enough in your ability to sand bag yourself and show up after youre on a roster then you should be confident enough to succeed on the browns then bail for the biggest fattest paycheck you can get your hands on after 4 years


this does bring up another issue i have with the nfl, I think that the rookie contracts should be limited to only 3 years, iirc its only 3 years in hockey and hockey players have a wayyyy longer shelf life and far less total competition than football players
its not fair a rookie is drafted at roughly 21-24 years old and can get stuck getting paid relatively shit wages until he is 29 and nearing the end of his prime when he should be getting paid disgusting amounts of money

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>>74927028
Forgot pic....
Posting ass for attention
Also go Packers this post is sports related

>>74926894
blame the garbage eagles they proposed it

worst team in the league desu

>>74925997
Name one RB that carries the ball 400 times a season

They literally don't exist anymore

>>74927045

Yo is that p12's ass?

>>74926688
He was a top 10 rated corner this year by PFF

>>74927062
From what I heard basically every team and the players Union wants it.

>>74927062
>It's the Eagles fault 24+ teams want a rule changed
Wee lad

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>wake up
>read newspaper
>see Raiders moving
Really wish that flood had happened and I died instead tbqh

>>74927123
The owners want it because it can potentially make them more money by limiting player injury. The players union wants anything that makes it easier for the players to make money with the least risk possible.

Neither of them gives a shit what the fans (who are the reason they make money in the first place) think.

>>74927076
lol no his ass isnt that incredible
random gif i found on my phone from a long ass time ago pun not intended

>>74925872
you have no idea what youre talking about, iirc hes the same size as melvin gordon and a shitton of other running backs already established in the nfl

>>74925997
how many running backs carried the ball 25 times in a single game last year in the entire league? im almost certain its in the single digits
leveon bell is 6'1" and 230 lbs and has missed games in nearly every single season in his career

the top 10 runningbacks in toal carries
zeke had 3 games with 25+ attempts
blount had 1 such game
david johnson had 3 such games
murray had 3 games
gurley had 1
lamar miller had 2
gore had 1 game
bell had 3 games
ajayi had 3 games
melvin gordon had only 2

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>>74926894
i personally think the rule is fine as is
correct me if im wrong but if a defensive player touches any offensive player during his leap attempt, or is helped over by a teammate, or leaps off a teammates back there is a penalty right?
that seems perfectly fine
if an athlete is skilled enough to clear 2 complete lines of fully grown giant men he has earned the chance to block the kick

friendly reminder :^)
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/carson-wentz-vs-dak-prescott-an-in-depth-look-at-the-stats-separates-hype-from-reality/

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/28/todd-bowles-declares-heavy-competition-for-jets-quarterback-job/

wew the just are always good for a laugh

>>74927270
>if an athlete is skilled enough to clear 2 complete lines of fully grown giant men he has earned the chance to block the kick

no because (((they))) need more money so we can't have players potentially getting injured in a contact sport that would be a bad investment

>>74927309
well idk this is a weird issue to me
apparently the players union wants to ban this move and im for literally anything that benefits the players
but my question is if the players didnt want to be allowed to jump over the line then why do any of them do it at all? it would make sense that if you dont want to be allowed to do something you dont have to have a rule to just not do it, just dont do it....
this issue confuses me

>>74927369
they don't want to be the player that gets landed on

>>74927394
name one time thats happened

>>74927186
If they make more money, why would/should they care if the fans don't like it?

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>jay buttler

>>74927282
i dont understand what im supposed to be reminded of...

>>74927295
i thought it was a given the jets were tanking this year
theyre gonna take sam darnold with the first pick of 2018 and probably hire a new coach depending who is available
which is disappointing because i believe todd bowles is a pretty good coach but leaving comfy arizona for the jets was probably a huge mistake, he should have waited a year and taken a better job the next year

>>74927394
but it results in a penalty if he touches anyone
i understand that doesnt mean much to the player that got landed on, but the rule could be modified
like if a player lands on anyone it results in a personal foul and if a player acquires maybe 3 personal fouls in a game he is ejected and possibly forfits a percentage of his game check equivalent to the amount of missed time??
idk i guess itd be easier just to ban the maneuver

>>74927414
idk about people getting landed on, but i have seen numerous longsnappers and gaurds get kicked in the head, which can very very easily cause a concussion

the more i think about it its probably better just to ban it all together

>>74927414
Name one time a team came back from a 25 point deficit in the super bowl
t. Anon before the comeback

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>>74927476
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
I just found out there are captchas that you can leave completely blank and it counts as correct
what the actual fuck

>>74927493
that literally has nothing to do with what i was talking about but ok i'll accept that you have no argument

>>74927369
>apparently the players union wants to ban this move and im for literally anything that benefits the players

The players union would ban contact in the sport if they could. Why does what they want matter? They just want the players to have an easier road to making money, same kind of motivation as the owners have.

>>74927542
and? i understand that the players union would ban contact if they could
but thats not feasible so its out of the question
they players should get the benefit of every doubt because they are putting their bodies on the line
the owners are the ones we should be rooting against, they refuse to even put their own money on the line let alone anything else

its silly that people root against players in contract negotiations or in any facet really

IND: Luck losing confidence of locker room, may trade picks for Colt McCoy

>>74927581

>Luck the loser home to Houston

He'll fit in perfectly

>>74927517
You had no argument whatsoever. The fact that something hasn't happened doesn't mean it isn't at risk to happen,

>>74927578
>its silly that people root against players in contract negotiations or in any facet really

No, its silly to think of it in black and white as owners vs players. I don't root for the players or the owners. I root for what's the best interest in the fans because thats what I am. The players don't care about the interest of the fans, they care about their own best interests. If you mindlessly "root for the players" or think that something must be good because its in the best interest of the players then you are the definition of a cuck.

>>74927599

>Colt Colt McCoy

If only Mike McCoy coached the Colts

>>74927653
>using buzzwords
nevermind im arguing with a jackass...

>>74927429
They don't have to care so long as they deal with drops in TV ratings, merchandise sales, or whatever else might come from making the game less interesting.

>>74927689
>h-he said cuck so I don't have to respond

I'm glad you see how retarded you are.

enough talking about the rule change, it honestly wont even be noticeable because it only happened a handful of times all season

>>74927727
>rooting for the people who put their bodys on the line for my entertainment makes me a cuck
how the fuck does that work, im the one receiving entertainment from the comfort of my own home for virtually nothing
you must be 18+ to post here
see yourself out

>>74927765
cuck

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so who wants to try to fix the browns?
i think this might be one of the best ones ive tried

>>74927778
HA
GOT EEEM

>>74927765
>rooting for the people who put their bodys on the line for my entertainment makes me a cuck

Yes it does when you openly admit you blindly support the players in every facet despite the fact all they care about is making more money in the easiest and most risk averse way possible. Why should they have to put their body on the line at all to make their millions? You may as well just give them some of your paycheck to make it easier for them since you're rooting for them so much.

>>74927800
le combine warrior safety is so overrated. i'd rather have budda baker or marcus williams tbqh

also, no way in hell tre white falls out of the second; i wouldn't be surprised to see him go in the late first round

>>74927836

Idk I had a high rating on Obi before the draft.

I thought he should be mid 2nd and would end up a steal.

>>74927828
thats just economics you fucking idiot
if i could find a way to get paid millions to sit on my ass and shitpost on a chink message board i would
and so would any of these nfl players
thats the goddamn goal of life you fucking idiot

>>74927581

Truth be told, I wouldn't even be mad. Especially Colt fuckin McCoy.

>>74927836
byron jones turned out to be pretty good actually and people (me included) thought he was just a combine meme
plus if you are hue jackson who has coached secondaries and had some success at it why not take a flier on a freak athlete and then try to coach him up

>>74927852
Wow its a good thing I'm not willing to give you money to do that then

>>74927851
i just don't think he's suddenly worth the 33rd overall pick because he had a good combine. the safety class is deep as fuck, if i was the browns i'd draft one of the big ass TEs there like hodges or engram.
>>74927889
>byron jones turned out to be pretty good actually
not really lol. he's an average safety who got overdrafted by the cowboys because of the combine. some team will probably do the same with obi

who /Long-Cox/ here?

>>74927908

I dont think he's worth that high, but 15 picks down is where he should be.

Most of his problem is >uconn

Also the Browns should not be taking him there anyways so youre right about that

>>74927926
Can't be worse than Barwin was honestly

How do we get hiro to move divegrass to a containment board?

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tfw too smart to be elite

>>74927906
and i dont give a dime to any nfl players
and you shouldn't be either
you dont buy jerseys do you......?

>>74927908
im sorry but i have to ignore your evaluation of a cowboys player out of a likely bias...
but from what ive seen is that he was pretty decent

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>>74927935
more importantly it means we probably won't be going DL in the first
>>74927963
kek w/e dude. i've watched him much more than you, and that's an accurate rating of him. he's an average free safety who gets burned sometimes for big plays. maybe he'll be more in the future, but you're just making shit up if you think he's shown anything big up until this point.

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>>74922038
for some reason i dont really dislike this pepe (even though I hate the patriots) the cowboy one is the worse. what do they have to be so smug about after being beaten by an lgbtqb?

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>>74922143
>no more bobby wagner's field goal leaps
and people wonder why the nfl is losing ratings.

>>74928021
We're getting a meme receiver like Ross or Williams in the first

>>74928021
i agree youve watched him more than i have
but i never said anything about him showing anything "big" though
i maintain he is a pretty decent safety especially in a time where good safeties are fairly rare

>>74928046
you just signed jeffrey though why would you take another wr in the first when the draft is filled with cb studs
take 3 cbs this year if you have to but fix that awful secondary
also id consider rebuilding the offensive line to keep wentz upright in the coming years because peters is old as dirt and kelce is aging
also your poor running game can be traced to pretty mediocre guard play

>>74928101
Because I'm not the Eagles FA, but also because there is no CB worth taking at 14 with Jones injured

>>74928115
>>74928101
FO*

Also we have one medicore guard, Brooks was elite and Kelce is gonna be traded in all likelihood

>>74928046
mike williams should be out of the question imo. too similar to jeffery. ross seems like a reach at 14; i still think we're probably going to trade either up or down.
>>74928101
he's average, nothing more or less. my original point was that he was overdrafted because of his combine, which is pretty accurate in my opinion. melifonwu might be better, but the same effect is there.

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>>74928115
>>74928135
i was going to mention kelce being unhappy in philly but i was unsure
but yea id still consider bolstering the offensive line
if the eagles could swing it a trade back would be i think very beneficial because the draft is loaded with talent at a lot of the eagles needs so the more picks for them the better
same goes for the packers as well
>mfw i wanted the packers to tank this year, get a top 10 pick, grab an elite prospect or trade back for more picks
instead we were the biggest pretenders in the entire nfl and got flat embarrassed in the NFCCG

>>74928242
fair enough, he was likely overdrafted, but i think the browns have better coaching so maybe he can realize his potential better
also i think the iggles should trade back senpai

Eagles are taking Christian MCcaffrey, either at 14 or they will trade back a few spots if they can.

Cap this

Give me one reason Tony Romo shouldn't go to the Browns where he'll have Josh Gordon to throw to and a beefed up defense to keep him on the field.

>>74928315
Pls no, not only is he a complete meme but he's not even worth drafting until 20

>>74928021
>>74927908
>>74928242
what happened m8
we used to be tight
wheres all the animosity coming from??

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>Oakland received some encouraging news to counter the approval of the team's move to Las Vegas.

>Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie confirmed Monday at the NFL owner’s meetings in Phoenix that quarterback Derek Carr is healing from his broken leg and will be ready for offseason workouts, ESPN reported.

>Carr suffered a broken fibula in his right leg during the team's Week 16 win over the Colts and promptly underwent surgery three days later to repair the injury. He was initially given a recovery timetable of six to eight weeks, so he should be fully healthy when the team begins offseason activities April 17.

Thank you based Carr

Fournette is a fullback babby and will get eaten alive in one-back/shotgun sets

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>>74921795

>>74928277
trading back would be ideal, since the best fitting prospects (Ross, McCaffrey, etc.) would be reaches at 14. i'm a little unsure as to who would want to trade up there, and for what. my best guesses are someone falls in love with dalvin cook or ryan ramczyk and wants to snag him before the colts, or a premier prospect at a position we don't need (OJ Howard?) falls to 14.
>>74928339
sorry if i'm coming off that way, i do like you. /nfl/ has been such a shitfest lately what with bucme and such, so i've been more of a cunt in general.

>>74928352
>still going to be the worst team in the AFC West irregardless where they move
how does that make you feel, anon?

>>74928315
>>74928330
agreed
mccaffrey isnt what the eagles need at rb right now unless they take someone like perine or hood in the 3rd-5th rounds
i believe mccaffrey will be a good running back in the nfl regardless of where he goes but his value is diminished by being part of the deepest RB class in my lifetime
he isnt worth the investment at pick 14 and unless a GM really thinks hes incredible isn't worth a first round pick sadly

>>74928374
fournette is an OLine babby, had one of the best in college football
and he is a 2 back set babby as well
no team in their right mind would draft him and try to implement him in a single back/shotgun offense though
i think fournette will be a stud but his career will be cut short by injuries similar to leveon bell, but not quite as versatile

>>74928404
its cool m8
i figured thats what happened, i assumed you were jaded since this place has been just a shitshow recently, which is why i usually try to disappear from /nfl/ around playoff and owl time and try to comeback at free agency and draft time, it keeps me from being pissy and jaded
i did watch some tape on garrett bolles and i like him pretty good id say the eagles should try to scoop him in round 2, especially if they can trade their #14 and maybe like a 4th, move back in the first and try to get an extra 2nd rounder

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>>74928459
"elated"

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https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/still-the-no-fun-league-nfl-approves-ban-on-leaping-over-line-to-block-kicks-180535717.html

>At the annual meetings in Arizona, a proposal to ban one of the game’s infrequently-used but always-exciting plays was passed, and it is now illegal for player to leap over the line of scrimmage to block a field goal or extra-point attempt.

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>>74928459
>irregardless
kys yourself my man

>>74928543
>no more meme blocks and encroachment memes

FUCK THE NFL

>Hue Jackson says Browns "will not trade the No. 1 overall pick in the draft". "I can tell you for sure."

>>74928611
Nah, nah. Jerry is pulling some magic off to get Garrett to his homeland. He's staying in Texas boys.

>>74928543
>Pats do it
>it gets banned

clock work

>>74928328
Because he doesn't fit the plan and Gordon will be traded as soon as he is reinstated (if he is reinstated).

>>74928611
i sure hope he isnt considering trading the #12 for jimmyG
id lose a lot of respect for this new browns regime if they did
and theyve done nearly everything right since they got hired too

>>74928477
bolles is a pretty solid prospect, he has good tape and he had a solid combine. only problem with picking is that we have a ridiculous amount of depth on the o-line as it is, so unless kelce/barbre or someone else is traded there almost wouldn't be room for him.

also, in a draft as weak as this one is for o-line, he's probably gonna be overdrafted. wouldn't be surprised if the giants take him in the first round
>>74928634
the seahawks did it first though

>>74927800
I like it except for Obi. I think they'll take King out of Iowa.

>>74928640
What plan? The Browns don't have a QB and they don't need one from this year's shitty QB class.

They're aiming for the kid from USC next year.

Keep Tony for 2 years tops and he'll retire, no cap hit.

>>74928552
>uses kys
>criticizes someone on their grammer

it's a sad doggy dog world we live in

>>74928674
yes they did. I remember Kam botching it like 3 times on an XP against Carolina iirc
then the Pats started doing it too with Collins and then McClellin

then it got banned

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>>74928674
i wouldnt say the draft is necessarily "weak" at offensive line, there's talent to be found at all the positions, i would however say its very shallow though
and if bolles is taken in the first that would be a serious reach, but i do like him in the 2nd
also what kind of depth do you have on the line?
i know wisnewski is pretty good for a depth guy, but wasnt the flyin hawaiian vatai H. pretty bad?

>>74928686
i figured from hues perspective he could coach up those elite measurables
pic related is another one that i liked a lot

>>74928735
its not just grammar, it takes extra keyboard movement to type irregardless which makes absolutely no sense
kys is a shortcut that saves me time
it took that guy extra time to type irregardless instead of regardless

>>74928789
>>74928686
golly that draft is a total pipedream
but in this one i wanted to roll with cody kessler because he is my qbfu

>>74928687
Have you ever followed a small market Major League Baseball team? That's the model. They want to improve at the position via youth. They're not going to take anybody over 30. As far as Darnold goes he's got less than one full season under his belt. Let him put up a big year first.
As far as classes go, next year isn't any better unless Browning, Darnold, Rosen, and Falk have big seasons. I don't foresee that happening. Maybe Darnold does, but Rosen is coming off a major injury, Browning lacks size, Falk is an air raid Mike Leach babby, Baker Mayfield is Manziel 2.0, Mason Rudolph is another worthless Big XII QB, Kenny Hill is a manlet, Lamar Jackson is a WR, Thorsen is just a big kid who throws a lot of INTs.

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>>74928687
>They're aiming for the kid from USC next year.
so is everyone, and i'm not sure the browns are going to be that crappy this year. AFCN is getting weaker, and the browns have a ton of picks in a stacked draft. they might not be bad enough to pick darnold over the jets
>>74928751
yeah it was a FG actually. he timed the snap count perfectly twice, but there was a flag on the first one against the panthers, and a flag against the hawks on the second one.

>>74928543
NO
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FUN
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LEAGUE
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>>74928687
>>74928865
>>74928869
yea it seems to me that the jets are going to be picking darnold at #1
in my armchair gm position their best options are trubisky at #12 or ride it out with kessler, see if he develops and just wait for a qb you really believe in

>>74928929
I'm not sold on Trubisky either. I like that he wants to play for his hometown, but he won't make it that far. The Jets have Josh McCown...a man they literally helicoptered in Week 1 of 2015. The Jets will most likely take Trubisky there unless they can bait the Browns into dealing the 1st this year, next year, and a second (33) to move up and take him.

>>74928905
it's about the safety of the long snapper who has his head straight down, also the player who is leaping over, incase the long snapping pops his head up and that guy is 10 ft in the air

it's the same reason you can't bullrush the long snapper anymore

article did a good job of sensationalizing the issue, and act like this happens often

>>74929092
>The Jets will most likely take Trubisky there
this is ridiculous, why do people keep saying this? the jets have cut nearly all their good offensive players and signed mccown, two of the surest sign that a team is tanking. if their plan was to draft a QB this year, the odds would be high he's going to start what with mccown's injury history. it's kind of silly to assume that they would throw a QB into that grinder without mangold + marshall at least.

everything the jets have done screams QB in 2018 to me. i think everyone knows trubisky would be a reach at 6, and the jets could get a much more impactful player for their defense with that pick. i could see them trading down to accumulate more picks for a rebuild, but never up.

>>74929092
well idk what the jest are going to do
but i think their best option is to just write next year off and take darnold #1 and load up their roster this year because its laughably weak outside the dline and even that is laughable because they have obscene talent and no production

>>74929191
agreed 100%

>Muh fun
Nobody found something that happened maybe once a game on average fun

>>74929227
it would happen maybe once per month, and that's exactly what made it fun you autist

>>74929320
>Rarity makes it fun
I guess watching the Browns win was a blast for you

>>74929341
but rarity literally does make it more enjoyable
variable reinforcement is one of the most effective types my man
why does anyone play slotmachines?
its psychology

>>74929452
>why does anyone play slotmachines?
to win money? this is a bad example

>>74929452
Rarity can only make fun things more fun. Watching someone jump over another is as fun as doing taxes, an event that is also rare and doesn't become more enjoyable because of said rarity

>>74929499
its not a bad example though
the house has the advantage in every single game in a casino
meaning if you play long enough you are guaranteed to lose money

>>74929514
but doing taxes is work watching the nfl is entertainment, if you drew the same level of enjoyment from each then why are you watching the nfl at all?
also people love getting their tax returns back so theres that

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Looks like Cutler unofficially retired.

>>74929961
>Jay Buttler

>eagles sign patrick robinson
give me a quick rundown
also
WITH WHAT MONEY

>>74930045
played less than half the season and didn't do much
>WITH WHAT MONEY
D-tier FA
he didn't cost much

>>74929961
how does a qb, or any athlete for that matter, have an ass that tiny?
i mean jesus christ i only played HS football and lifted regularly for it, and only lift occasionally now and my ass is far better than that

and qbs are supposed to use their lower body, ass, legs, and core to drive and rotate to get power to throw the football
i guess it makes sense that one of the laziest qbs would have poor technique and rely only on arm strength

>>74922007
All WRs have one head

>>74929961
Good on him. Hope he finds peace.

>>74930085
eagles have literally no money left afaik
we had like 1.6 before signing chirs long
long made like 2.45 in new england last year plus 2.5 from rams dead money
plus there is a league minimum wage
so like are they playing for free?

What will Belichick think of next? And how long untill the league bans it?

>>74930204
ain't no rule that says a dog can't play football

>>74930231
>Golden Retriever rb

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>>74930231
>>74930261
way ahead of you
mans best friend to the rescue, that fucking nigger agholor will be gone soon enough

Any Bay Area Raider fans here? I'm heart broken, man.

Been a fan for 20 plus years. Don't know if I should keep supporting them and keep putting money on Mark Davis' pocket or just become a neutral football fan.

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>>74921886
holy shit this stuff grinds my gears so hard

>>74922249
this too
i remember actually seeing a statistic really similar to this during an actual game
>drew brees is like 12-2 when completing at least 1 pass to 5 different receivers with each of them having at least 20 yards receiving in the first half
like what the fuck good does that do anyone?
its just a wildly convoluted way to say "drew brees is good when he spreads the ball around efficiently" why do you have to add 15 different stipulations

side note, i also hate it when people intentionally move specific bars to include/exclude certain players
i think it happens most often in the NBA with things like "Durmiquel Janiggersly is one of only 3 players with at least 10 games of at least 7 rebounds, 15 points and 8 assists in the first 3 quarters of a game so far this season"
like fuck that just make the benchmark a real bench mark like 15 pts, 5 rebounds and 5 assists and watch that total number of players who completed the feat jump from 3 to 25