/rg/ - Relocation General

>it's a franchise holds a city hostage for a new stadium so the owners can get a free $100 million in PSL
Football is Family™

That's why Minor League Baseball is the superior sport.

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Genuinely terrible. Hope they can find their way back home soon.

Fucking Raiders are gonna turn Vegas into Cholo Central now.

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>>74913441
U mad?

THE NFL IS DEAD
PRESS F TO PAY RESPECTS

These franchise teams kill the spirit of the game. Why be a fan of your local team if they can just get up and leave?

>>74913464
No, it's not.

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>be American
>Franchise shoots off

When is the UK getting a team?

West bay best bay anyway.

Sorry Oakland. Bye Raiduhs.

Who cares? The TV experience is better than going to the games anyway.

>>74913509
this tbqhfamalam

Where the hell they gonna play at

>>74913509
fact.

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>those L.A. raiders fans who said they were coming home

>2 teams went to L.A., raiders went to las vegas

Lmaoing at their lives

>>74913525
At the Oakland Coliseum while the stadium is finished, The Raiders lease with the Coliseum runs until 2018, Mark Davis is that cheap

>>74913426
If you're gonna blame anyone blame the NFL not the franchise

They're playing in a run down shit hole stadium built in the 60s. The taxpayers of Oakland shouldn't pay for it so good for them, but you can't expect one franchise to fund construction for a whole stadium

>>74913396
What a win for the city of Oakland
They no longer have to deal with that stupid sportsball team

when can i buy merchandise for las vegas raiders

>tfw can bandwagon the Raiders without being associated with Cholos now

the good guys always win

i live in san diego and this is gonna be my new team

go raiders

>tfw spend all my money dressing up as a warrior each sunday to cheer on my team
>tfw team leaves me because I'm impoverished

feelsbadman

>>74913561
The cholo shit came from their association with LA. That doesn't disappear with the move. In fact they will be about 100 miles closer to LA than they are now.

>>74913561
>moving to las vegas isn't going to draw even more cholos
not as bad as la would have been, but definitely worse than oakland

Not as good as having the Raiders in L.A. but it's closer than Oakland (8 hour drive to Oakland, 4 hour drive to Las Vegas) and once a year visit to the new stadium that the cuck chargers are going to be leasing from the rams sounds alright.

>move out of the ghetto and a "stadium" that leaks shit out into the field several times a year
>go to a famous city in a state of the art stadium and have a chance to actually be good

this is a bad thing why?

>>74913532
blanda...
Who are these respectable fine ladies?

>>74913653
Las Vegas will legitimately run out of water within 10 years. Lake Mead is undergoing a death spiral

>>74913636

Sure but I have the feeling the Raiders will get a reputation of being an international team because everyone goes to Vegas, nobody goes to Oakland for a holiday so only the hispanic fans turn up.

>>74913653
Outside of the lights of the strip, Vegas is generally a miserable place, no culture, let alone sports culture, just desert sprawl for miles and miles

WE DID IT LADS

VEGAS BABY

FUCK YEH

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>>74913396

>rams to LA
>raiders to vegas

what is with the NFL and moving teams to cultural cesspools?

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>>74913688
>Vegas is generally a miserable place
t.flyover

Vegas is named the entertainment capital of the world because it has everything and is always open

what city can I go to walmart at 1AM, a brothel at 3 AM , Mickey D at 3 AM , and then crash at trump tower in 4AM

The franchise is going to make so much bank in Vegas

There are millions of tourists in your town every sunday yearning for that Americana. Also the after-parties at the clubs, jesus. Not to mention the cheap flights that are going to draw in the opponent's fans looking to spend a weekend there. Jesus, can I invest in them?

>>74913653
Vegas is cultureless. There is no "Vegas loyalty" besides what comes with UNLV. At least Oakland is part of the greater bay area. Vegas is hoping NFL brings them an identity worthy of loyalty.

>>74913675
>international team
Not how NFL or Vegas works, but we'll see.

>>74913688
...aaaand now I see that you posted exactly what I wanted to say while I was typing. Oh well, seconding your post.

>>74913749
goyim goodell

>>74913753
>Mickey D

>not eating at in 'n out

>crash at trump tower

>crashing off-strip

>>74913753
don't forget the bars never close, and you can smoke while youre enjoying your drinks

Just want to remind all the naysayers that
-It is factually cheaper to live in Las Vegas than any city in the bay
-cheaper to live in las vegas than virtually any place in California
-you can buy a 2 story house in vegas for $250,000 as opposed to $500,000 in california
-stores are always open except certain retail brands like gamestop and shit

>>74913778
this

if you haven't gambled at least 20k in vegas and fucked at least 5 hot escorts in the same night you're a casual and probably should just stick to your local mohegan sun

>>74913561
This is literally the second best thing for Cholos. They are just a small road trip from beating each other now.

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>>74913794
AND NO INCOME TAX DONT FORGET THAT

CHEAP LIVING ALL YEAR ROUND

>>74913770

I didn't say that they will be marketed as the international team, just that they will gain a lot of fans from all over the world who visit Las Vegas, some people only ever visit Vegas when they go to the USA, the fan base will diversify a lot rather than them solely being the gangbanger exiles from LA.

>>74913753
>what city can I go to walmart at 1AM, a brothel at 3 AM , Mickey D at 3 AM , and then crash at trump tower in 4AM
empty Born 2 Lose lifestyle right there

>>74913788
wow

>>74913794
Yeah, because nobody really wants to live there. It's the nuclear option for California's near-poor who want to experience real estate ownership before they die. Them plus casino employees.

As stupid as European soccer can be at least it doesn't have relocation. Every city no matter how small has a team forever

>>74913426
>franchise holds the city hostage
The fuck outta here with that shit. Every single owner pulls that shit every time they want a new stadium. Last time pat bowlen wanted a new stadium we built his old schizophrenic ass a new stadium

>>74913653
Yesterday, the Cubs were leaving a hotel, and boarded a bus. Just minutes later, some dude held a bus hostage, shooting and killing some on the bus. Vegas is a slum.

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>yfw you finally realize why NFL players have to testify before congress

>>74913823
>walmart at 1 am brothel at 3, Mickey D's at 4 am
sounds like a bunch of cities in Asia to be honest.

>>74913868
and oakland isn't?

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Is vegas PD prepared for this type of violence?

>>74913536
>coliseum expected to be finished in 2020
>lease at current stadium runs till 2018
...I'm still seeing some problems here? Can they just pull an Arizona and steal the unlv field for a year? Does unlv even have a football team?

>>74913894
learn about what kind of city vegas is and ask that question to yourself again

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>the idiots are still going to play in Oakland until the stadium is built
I cannot think of a stupider thing to do.

>>74913894
>vegas pd
>only patrol the strip and handcuff drunk tourist girls

yeah they're really not

>>74913551
They should pay if they want a team there. Literally every city pays for part of the stadium and most have a corporate sponsor

>>74913921
Reminds me of the Houston Oilers in 96 when they already announced the move to Tennessee. The games only drew like 20000 fans and the great majority of them were fans of the other team. It was an embarrassment.

>>74913653
vegas is one of the worst cities in america

>>74913907
Most likely they would play at UNLV's Sam Boyd stadium, although it's quite small to host NFL games but if that divegrass stadium is hosting the Chargers, they should have no problem at UNLV's stadium

>>74913998
They aren't though. They are going to stay in Oakland until the Vegas Stadium is built and they will draw a few thousand fans since they know the team is already gone.

>>74913921

Most of Raiders fan live outside of Oakland anyway, and big chunk drive up from SoCal. They'll still sellout games no problem.

>>74913921
you underestimate how many fans are from outside oakland bro

Oldfag here

Vegas used to be a fun place to go because it was so cheap. I could fly into Vegas on a Thursday night, party like a rockstar for 3 nights and spend less than $1k for the whole trip. Now if you go with less than $10k you are going to mainly be window shopping and walking in bus fumes in 100 degree heat without doing much else. The only people that still have fun in Vegas are the rich Chinese and Middle East faggots, with some finance bigwigs from San Fran and NY thrown in for good measure.

The clubs have completely ruined the feel of the city. The casinos used to subsidize all the food and accommodations with their profits, now they just put the money into outdoing each other's dance clubs every 5 years and paying some house DJ from Brazil $1 million a night, while 21-30 year olds go and spend dad's money to feel like a big shot for a night.

Place fucking sucks now. Soulless AND expensive.

>>74914028
I meant after the lease with the Oakland Coliseum expires and the stadium is not finished, doing another year to year deal would be too cold blooded from Davis

>yfw da Raiders win one for da (oak) Land

>>74914119
its perfect

>>74914090
This to be honest. It sounds nice in theory but the idea that the place is some golden gateway to debauchery and cash is bullshit, unless you have a stupid amount of disposable money or tickets to something.

>a sports team is a franchise that can be moved around the country on the whim of the owner

stop this nonsense lads

Which faggot owner voted against the move?

>>74914090
AKA it was more fun when the Mob ran it.

>teams can move cities in America

Wat

>>74914090
how old are we talking here because all of what you said sounds like bullshit and I live here

>>74914143
Please don't lump the rest of the country in with the West Coast.

>>74914087
I hope the start setting up ICE raids at raiders games

>>74914090
> t. sam rothstein

>>74914160
hasn't this happened before with teams all over the US though?

weren't the Colts originally from Baltimore?

NFL is owned by degenerates. And Degenerates are common in Vegas so what did you expect. Degenerates like degenerates and I wouldn't be surprised if the big wigs spend a lot of time in the Christ void hell hole.

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>>74914090

>Going to some casino's pool and spending thousands on "bottle service" whilst some shit cunts like The Chainsmokers or Steve Aoki press play on an iPod

Sounds like hell.

Yeah I'd rather get the train up to Newcastle and spend £50 to get absolutely faceless, chat to some slags and vomit Doner Kebab on my shoes.

>>74913909
They would need special training to deal with this type of violence.

>>74914189
Yeah and we hate the Colts. Fuck them

RIP Unitas tho. He was a true man

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>>74914153
>t. brit

Chargers have to share a stadium with the Rams while the Raiders got their own place in the mecca of debauchery

>>74914156
my best trips were in the mid-90s

A lot of the nightlife at that point was still on fremont, we generally would just pick a strip at random and sometimes would go back and forth a few times in one night

>>74914156
you must be young if this isn't your general impression of vegas

>>74914151
the thing is it would be better if it was either run by the mob or purely capitalistic but now Vegas just has cronyism. You'll know it's finally fixed itself when the monorail goes to the airport

>>74914090
You want Fremont Street.

That's where it's cheap and young people hang out.

Lots of Tweakers and Heroin addicts though so watch out.

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>>74914222

t. Baguette

>>74914222
>implying anyone watches club rugby

pretty sure they had to move because London is so full of sports teams and so few people care about club rugby that they would have gone bankrupt if they stayed

This will be a nice novelty for a few years, but probably won't end well. Vegas is an absolute meme city

Good, bring back the mob if we're bringing the bullshit in.

>>74914189
Rarely ever happened in modern times until this frenzy of teams on the West Coast started whoring themselves around for cash. The Colts moved from Baltimore because their owner was an actual drunk who got lured away by a new domed stadium. They literally fled the city in the middle of the night to avoid local government and fans from finding out. Most other cases have good explanations (Montreal Expos moved because they had no fans, no media, and played in a concrete crypt; Atlanta Thrashers moved because hockey in the southeast; Cleveland Browns moved because their stadium was 60 years old and they didn't have the money to fix it up or build a new one)

>>74914245
That would be great if there was any decent food or entertainment left on Fremont. The strippers there are used up and that's the only draw. Shows are shit, food is shit, decor is shit. No reason to go to Vegas for Fremont anymore, I'd rather just go to the nearest Native American casino for a better experience

>>74914268
I disagree, each major strip casino has the population of a small town, there's going to be enough tourists to fill it up.

Raiders Nation will turn into a joke though. It's going to be Filipinos wearing those jerseys.

RAIDERS BTFO

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>74914298
You eat at The Strip and around the city and then you party in Fremont.

It's not hard it's literally a 20 minute drive.

>>74914143
Yea thats what "franchise" means in a capitalist society

A friend of mines died from heat stroke in Vegas, liked to drink and from what his girlfriend said, guy wouldn't go inside. They both were drunk the whole time, running around wild in 100°+ heat. Dumb asshole died on the strip, fucking idiot. I miss that guy.

>>74914148
Dolphins owner. Word is that he owns east bay property.

>>74914143
>>74914153
Teams are corporate identities. They are not clubs in the sense you know.

>>74914160
You have no idea what they're talking about.

>Handegg teams can just move if they don't make enough money.
lol

>>74914042
>the LA Raider autist is still in this country
Reported to ICE

>>74914363
There's thousands of people who yearly go out to the Vegas Desert, take E and then dance to that awful EDM shit.

I don't know how Heat Stroke doesn't take them all out.

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>>74914090
This

>>74914336
I know, I used to do that all the time

Now it's $20/plate for tapas everywhere so you've got to spend $200 a meal or you get some shitty mexican food in the back of planet hollywood

If you never experienced old vegas, you'd never understand how much different it is now and how much more everything sucks. Ignorance is bliss, trust me I envy you. I just remember getting $2 filet mignon's and $5 crab buffets and my room cost like $20. $1 beer and shot specials right on the strip, 25 cent tables that you could drink at for hours with your friends. I realize that prices have to go up with inflation but Vegas is just designed to fleece people of their money now instead of providing some entertainment in return for said fleecing

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>>74914382
>mfw Canadian handegg had to fold teams and start franchises in the US just to keep their league afloat in the 90s
>mfw Canada has half as many MLB teams as it used to
>mfw Canada has half as many NBA teams as it used to

>>74914382
It's truly a common occurrence and is the only sport it happens in

I don't care about this. I'm more upset about the chargers moving to LA. Why give them two teams?

>>74914406
>walk into casino
>video slots everywhere
>press a button and it tells you that you've lost
>go back to my $399 room and order a $20 burger

>>74914398
Most people aren't 500 lbs

>>74914254
It was not really a relocation but a administrative bond. Furthermore Avignon is near to Arles like Santa Clara for San Fransisco

The Strip still has its novelties.
The Bellagio is a classy joint still (as far as vegas goes).

I dont think tourists are going to pay a lot to watch a team they dont support play unless they are foreigners that are really into football but thats not going to enough.

Also Fremont is filled with old dads and poor people trying to vacation on a budget

>>74914398
Talking about Burning Yuppie?

>>74914429
the city has its fair share of football fans that never got to watch their team live and new football fans

>>74914424
>room service knocks with $20 burger
>hello sir, I bring food
>I give VIP tickets to INXSCLUB3001 for tip
>give $5 tip
>VIP ticket is for $2 off a bellini before 10pm

hard to believe people actually live in las vegas, always thought of it as some place filled with vacationers and drunk passerby.

>>74914492
Vegas produced Panic at the Disco and The Killers, let that sink in

>>74914455
Nah Electric Daisy Carnival. This year it's in June.

>>74913653
Who are you?

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J U S T

>>74914492
The actual city of Vegas is pretty faceless and awful. Go look it up on Google Earth.

My only goal in life is to eventually watch a Rick Steves travel video on Las Vegas

>>74913506
This

>>74914503
That's because everyone fled to Henderson NV and Summerlin.

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>>74914492
it's full of transplants

>>74914499
imagine dragons too
>>74914492
its a chill area to live in

people like >>74914518
probably got scammed and lost thousands and blames the city for it

Can't they send the Chorgers to Vegas and the Raiders to LA?

I give it five years after Carr and Mack retire before they go back to the bay

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>>74914518
jesus

>>74914492
One-third of the people who live there work for casinos. Almost everyone else work in industries to support those people.

>>74914548
That actually makes more sense.

Las Vegas Chargers, I like that.

>>74914534
>probably got scammed and lost thousands and blames the city for it

I got scammed by going there expecting to have fun

No way I'm fucking paying a $40 cover charge and $15 a drink to watch Jose Ramos fiddle with his ipod

I mean, i got drunk and made the best of it but wouldn't it be more fun to do that at the beach?

>>74914530
>>74914551
what could possibly go wrong with this?

>>74914551
lel that area is completely new and still has houses being build

in fact that IKEA just opened a month ago
>>74914570
>No way I'm fucking paying a $40 cover charge and $15 a drink to watch Jose Ramos fiddle with his ipod
well first of all what are you even talking about where did you go and second you didn't research anything if you paid a cover charge when clubs and bars are free to enter at midnight

>>74914594
>"wtf why are our reservoirs disappearing fucking global warming"

>>74914604
still looks like shit

>>74914604
>when clubs and bars are free to enter at midnight

Marquee

google marquee and look at the cover charge: https://www.google.com/search?q=marquee+cover+charge&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

I guess I'm lucky I didn't pay $50

>>74914610
where are you from where new areas are not being built because it would explain a lot

that is what a growing city looks like anon

Let's hope it will shine so bright that we can guess the Score from THE MOON!

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>>74914629
>building a new city in the fucking desert

>>74914628
Oh I totally agree the Nightclubs are just horrible in Vegas and the sooner they die out the better.

Rather have the lounge acts with an old guy just belting out Sinatra songs. At least you could talk to people there.

Vegas Nightclubs makes you literally feel like a Wojak standing alone at a party, except everyone is standing alone because the MUSIC IS TOO FUCKING LOUD.

>>74914604
>you just gotta know the tricks man

t. why vegas sucks


I'm in your city for 3 fucking days I don't want to have to jump through hoops to have fun and I certainly don't want to get to know any of the locals outside of a few select women for no longer than a half hour each

>>74914653
vegas has been around for a hundred years

>>74914679
its the same for any other city especially cities like new york , chicago and miami which vegas is not obviously but rules still apply

>>74914676
at the nightclubs I just can't stop thinking about how stupid the whole thing is. I watch like 20 guys wait in line at the bar and I think "are these guys really all paying $18 for a michelob ultra, and then i realize I'm too sober to enjoy myself so I get in line behind them and the vicious cycle continues

>>74914694
Except that those cities weren't built for the explicit purposes of entertaining tourists

>>74914716
vegas wasn't built to entertain neither it was just a normal town which later became a GI post and is now a entertainment city

things change

>>74914653
>economy lives and dies on tourism and the entertainment industry
>was one of the hardest hit cities when the housing bubble popped in 07-08
>in the middle of the fucking desert

definite guaranteed growth desu

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>tfw excuse to go to vegas for a weekend without wife going apeshit

>>74914679
>Going to Vegas alone
Well of course it's going to suck. You're supposed to go with a group of friends or at least a GF.

If I went to Vegas solo I guess I would just go Golfing. Or get an escort.

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>live in boulder city all your life
>finally move out
>vegas gets a hockey team and a football team

Why is life so cruel

>>74914726
>vegas wasn't built to entertain

oh give me a break. I'm sure at some point it was some gold rush railroad shanty town like everything out west but Vegas as we know it was designed solely for entertainment

>>74914753
I've gone with all sorts of group sizes. It's a clusterfuck with more than 4-6 people and it's a waste of money to go there with any less

>>74914768
where'd you move to anon?
knights will be shit for at least 5 years and by then they'll probably relocate seeing as hockey doesn't really work in the fucking desert

>>74914731
If Los Angeles keeps overpricing the Middle Class there will be growth in Vegas. My decision to move to Vegas was:

>Do I want to live like a Poor Person in Los Angeles
>Do I want to live like Middle Class in Vegas

Guess which I picked. The one where I don't have a mortgage on my house.

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>>74914809
you really made it anon

>>74914816
My house in Vegas cost $350,000.

You know what that gets you in Los Angeles County? A fucking shack. Fuck that noise.

>>74914425
My friend wasn't 500lbs, not even close. Be was am average chub skinny fuck, dude was dense as fuck though.

Remember, Football teams are franchises owned by handful of wealthy people. They go where the money is. Oakland is a piece of shit. They don't wanna build their team new stadium, and keep all the $ they generate & give locally. Then they don't have room to complain.

>>74914839
enjoy paying off your new stadium for the next several years anon, and those people moving in will raise your property tax and devalue your home!

>>74914570
>>74914203
>iPod
What year do you people live in?

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Will he stop being a Xehawks fan and hop on the bandwagon?

>>74914877
Still beats LA.

>>74914870
Oakland is a developers dream right now

they're going to vegas because of favorable taxes

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>>74914090

>>74914879
>I've clearly never been to a club before

Doesn't get 100+ degrees in Vegas in September? How many fans are gonna get heat stroke wearing all black?

>>74913396

until next time

>>74914947
Playing in a dome

>>74914947
about as many vikings fans that have died of frostbite

>nobody cared about Vegas when NHL announced expansion
>now NFL announces relocation and people are all suddenly Raiders fans and hate Vegas
hmmm
marlins to vegas in 2025

>>74915002
im actually a little worried about the white sox

The fuck are they going to play? Does the University there have a good stadium?

Also why the fuck didn't they move to LA when they could?

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Non-Californian Raider fan here.

I'm so happy that I can finally take my family to Raider games without the fear of getting murdered by shitskins.

mfw

>>74915075
>vegas
>not full of shit skin tourists
have u ever been 2 vegas

Let's be a 100% honest here, many of these players have gambling issues, is making a team move to the heart of america's gambling industry a good idea? How long until we see players in scandals?

>>74915082
>shit skin tourists
They're called Californians you rayciss

>>74915075
oh honey...

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Is he Our Guy? Las Vegas Raiders. Hell yea. Fuck You hater libcuck shills. You deserve to loose everything.

>>74914499
don't forget Escape the Fate and Five Finger Death Punch.

>>74914554
no different than New Orleans, Miami, San Diego or any other resort town.

>>74915095
They are just covered up guaranteed players bet against their team all the time

>>74915075
It's going to be worse. All those beaners now have less distance to travel to games.

>>74914786
DC Metro area. Which is one of the shittiest sports areas

>>74913749
but every NFL team is located in a cultural cesspool
called america

>>74913525
At the Caesar's Palace

>>74914504
>>74914455
Burning Man is in the desert in north part of the state, you fly into to Reno and then drive there.

The Electric Daisy Carnival is at the Las Vegas Motor Speedway in the north east corner of the city across the street from the Air Force base.

>>74915054

the owner doesn't have the money to build the stadium and the city wont pay for it. simple as that. the rams were able to relocate to LS because the owner did have the money to build his playhouse ad he was only willing to let the chargers in.

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Let's be honest here. What's the O/U on NFL players involved in gunfights at this establishment before 2020?

My guess is seven (3 + 3 + 1).

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>>74913868
see >>74913888
>oakland
>not a slum

>>74915206

LA*

>>74914877
Residents aren't paying a time the tourist are

We accepted what San Diego didn't

>>74915002
in one of our suburbs here in Vegas we're slowly building a new minor league ballpark that can be expanded to a major league park to move the AAA team out of homeless area of town

but it's bit out of the way from the strip where the NHL and NFL teams would play, so that could be a bit of a deal breaker.

>>74914947

It gets 100+ degrees for Jags games and that's with the South's humidity.

>>74914947
AC plus no humidity just dry heat the easiest heat to tame

>>74914947
retractable roof

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>>74914947
NFL-branded abayat with raiders logos

>>74913396
Well shit, what will become of Oakland now? I mean, the Raiders was the only thing keeping them relevant.

GET FUCKED LIBERALS. ANYTHING TO FUCK CALIFORNIA OVER IS A GREAT THING.

>>74916286

>Heat isn't a big deal when you're wearing a suicide vest because Allah wills it.

>>74916286
they aren't moving london

>>74916969
I'm no A's fan, but I care about that team and that sport infinitely more than the Raiders and foopbaw.

Raiders to Vegas?

JUST WIN BABY!

>>74914287
>The Colts moved from Baltimore because their owner was an actual drunk who got lured away by a new domed stadium. They literally fled the city in the middle of the night to avoid local government and fans from finding out.

The government was trying to use the law to steal the team so they left

>>74913396

Who are all the hood rats gonna support now?

>>74914408
Canada is smaller than California in population. Maybe Calfiornia should start its own pro football league.

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>>74915075

>>74914287
>>74917255
funny how a Canadian knew more than you anon

but yeah the city was trying to steal the name right behind the owner's back as he was negotiating a new stadium

he caught wind of it and immediately packed up and left

>>74918846
>virtually no blacks in sight
SAFE

>>74914509
It doesn't matter who we are

I've been watching the NFL as a neutral for over ten years but I've just found my team.