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South America World Cup 2018 Qualifiers

Today's menu (all times are GMT-5):

Colombia vs. Bolivia 03:30 pm.
Paraguay vs. Ecuador 06:00 pm.
Uruguay vs. Brasil 06:00 pm
Venezuela vs. Perú 06:30 pm.
Argentina vs. Chile 06:30 pm.
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>>74832827
Lets go Argentina win and Columbia loss
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No llores por mi argentina!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4J7U2zg94U
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>>74832827
t. El peruANO
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The good guys:
Perú
Bolivia
The one from Oceania in the play-off

The bad guys:
The rest
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>>74832894
O'Higgins can suck my balls
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>>74832827
What are you doing without your leaf, Canada?
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>Our team against Chile: Romero, Mercado, Otamendi, Rojo, Mas, Mascherano, Biglia, Messi, Agüero, Di María, Higuain
>Literally 4-2-4

Because having a midfield is overrated.
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>>74832930

thanks chileANO. was gonna ask for this rundown
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>>74833197
>Implying Messi wont be playing in the mid only to be man marked out of the game and having to rely on his shitty attackers to finish.
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>>74833197
>inb4 IT'S ALL MISSI'S FAULT XDDDDDDD
Also, I was looking for that image, thanks.
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>>74833197
Rojo is really gonna play as CB? Or he will put Mercado? Fuck, don't you have a decent CB? Even Funes Mori is better than Rojo or Mercado.
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>>74833232
>don't you have a decent CB
Our last great CBs were Ayala, Samuel, >Heinze, and >Burdisso
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>>74833232
That shit keeps happening. What the fuck, Argies.
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I admire Argentina's sense of fair play, since Chile doesnt have their usual midfield due to injuries they are playing without a midfield either to be fair.
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>>74833232
I unironically think they should play a 4-4-2 Messi doesnt have the defensive work rate to work in a 4-3-3
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Do you Chileans know about carmona? Is he good?
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>>74833242
Stay tuned for today's match because It will happen again.
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>>74833262
They don't have the midfield to do it. Banega is the only one who can create but he's a lazy faggot.
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>>74833275
Well, >you play at the same time >we do, but I'll be streaming >your match later since it's guaranteed to have memes and micro chimpouts.
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Easy 3 points for Colombia

Let's celebrate, parceros
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>>74832827
lmaoo relegatiton to CONCACAF?
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>>74832827
Why does ecuador have to fuck everything up
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>Romero
>Bench in Manure
>Starter for Argentina

>Caballero
>Starter for Man City
>Bench in Argentina

What did he mean by this?
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>>74833315
They're literally /ourguys/.
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>>74833292
calla oe cachudo aprende a hacer tus meme arrows correctamente...
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>>74833367
callate puto déjalo hacer su post tranquilo
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>>74833315
>Ecuador away today

they're going to fuck their own shit up
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>>74833391
calla mono huevon
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>>74832827
>poopeebol
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>>74833336
No they're not they are gonna bomb at the WC if they make it
>>74833398
Hopefully
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>>74833391
O-Obrigado!
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>>74833391
>>74833435
South american weebs are the worst and this is coming from a weeb himselve
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Tite is one win away from becoming the first coach in history to win seven consecutive matches in Conmebol qualis.
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>>74833435
No hay de que, peruzito. Cuando te sientas triste, apagado y tengas tu corazón arrugado, no dudes en acudir a mí.
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>>74833450
Maybe you should look in the mirror, you'll find a worse kind of weeb
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>>74833197
Meanwhile...
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>>74833367
>"Oe"
Ffs
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>>74832827
>Relegation to CONCACAF
top kek
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>>74833197
>>74833232
What is this tactic called?
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>>74833730
The 4-0-6 Bauza Gambit
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I dont care if we lose today because we have 3 easy games at home and we always win at Bolivia. Today is a game just for the lulz.

>Argentina fails to qualify because us and Messi quits again
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>>74833332
It's even worse because he's not in the bench. The other 2 are Andujar and Guzman.

I feel bad for Messi but we shouldn't qualify to the WC. The meme of "muh group that played 3 finals" has gone long enough.
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>>74833828
Wtf not even called? And Rulli too? Bauza is really retard, damn.
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>>74833828
Is it true that bauza has been saying that he thinks they'll win the World Cup and shit like that?
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>>74833801
>I dont care if we lose today because...

this early damage control
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>>74833891

shut up monkey, you lost to us. I dont care if you guys are at the top here, your team is going to choke again in Russia because the cold
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>>74833941
Tá em crise? Chama o Chile!
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>>74833891
He's right even if it's damage control
>Venezuela, Paraguay and Ecuador in Santiago
>Bolivia in La Paz
The October match in Brazil is whatever
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>>74833864
Yes, just a week ago he said:
>"After winning the WC I don't know what I'm going to do"
He also said he would call Icardi if something happened to Dybala, Higuain or Pratto. Well, Dybala doesn't look like it's going to play and Bauza didn't call shit.
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>>74833990
Damn, being senile must be really hard
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>>74833984
Ecuador is winning. Tie againsy Bolivia and Paraguay. Win against Venezuela
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>>74833984
>>74833941
yeah... right...
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>>74833990
What a smoke merchant.
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>>74833941
Russia in summer isn't cold m8
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>>74833304
>Bolivia didn't bring their STRONGEST players
We have to be fucking shit to not win today.
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>>74833941
>implying that the majority of our players don't play in europe
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>>74834060
kys
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>>74833197
>roamer
>market
>red
>more
>biglel
>waterboy
>of mary
>higuain
>literally the same players that have been failing constantly for NT are back as starters

what did Bauza mean by this?
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Colombia 3 - 0 Bolivia
Paraguay 2 - 1 Ecuador
Uruguay 1 - 2 Brasil
Venezuela 0 - 2 Peru
Argentina 2 - 1 Chile
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Matches played by Conmebol teams:

>Argentina
Vs Uruguay (185) Brazil (103) Paraguay (101) Chile (88) Peru (50) Bolivia (38) Colombia (35) Ecuador (33) Mexico (27) Germany (22)

>Chile
Vs Argentina (88) Uruguay (81) Peru (79) Brasil (71) Paraguay (70) Ecuador (49) Bolivia (43) Colombia (38) Mexico (29) Venezuela (26)
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>>74834163
>Germany (22)
Why don't german teams play Copa Libertadores?
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>>74833519
>uruguay hasnt dropped a single point playing at home this quali
should be one hell of a match huezinho
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It is so fucking stupid if Messi played every game Argentina would already be qualified instead they are in 5th fucking place because those pieces of shit can't even beat Venezuela or Paraguay without Messi
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>>74834187
It would be a lot more fun if you had Suarez. Fuck it, how he managed to receive that dumb yellow card?
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>>74834211
Imagine if Argentina got eliminated by NZ or based Tahiti on repechage (2nd leg at South America)
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>>74834249
Same wouldve been nice to see Jesus and qtinho maybe in better form too. Suarez' yellow was refball cause chilel was getting btfo at home
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>>74834211
why didnt he play though?
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>>74833197
riddle me this, argie

why is bauza allowed to manage argentina when his last job was getting his shit wrecked in brazil?
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>>74834337
Injuries. And yellow cards I think, too.
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>>74834416
I think it was just injuries.
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>>74834382
good question, even gallardo would be better
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Ecuador won't win today. They are really strong at home but really bad at away.

They only lost at home against Brazil.
They only won away against Argentina.

Ecuador 0-3 Brazil
Argentina 0-2 Ecuador
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will Peru try their best?
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>>74834382
Tata was tired of not being paid
AFA is a mess, so they just picked whoever was willing to take the job
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>>74834453
wut
I didnt remember that they beat argies away
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>>74834478
It was on the first match day. Truly a memetastic day; Germany, Argentina, and Brazil all lost their respective games on the same day.
>>74834457
You need to wait a few hours for my anime poster friend. He'll be here, don't worry.
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>>74834497
>anime poster friend

Aren't all peruvians weebs? It seems that at least most of them
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>>74833237
Ayala was great
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>>74833262
Like this

----------------Romero-------------
Mercado--Otamendi--Rojo--Mas
Biglia--Mascherano--Messi--Di Maria
----------Aguero--Higuain-------
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>>74834382
>copalib semifinals with a shit team
>wrecked
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>>74834677
his são paulo played like shit, they lucked into the semis with away goals until nacional shit down their throats

they were shit in the league too
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>>74834556
Mm no, not really, I mean there are places where they gather together just like any other Latin American country I think but they are not a majority or something to be amazed about because most of them (and I'm including myself a little bit) were born in the 90's kids these days watch something else
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>>74834677
>most expensive squad in the country
>pato, ganso, rodrigo caio, etc.
>didn't win shit
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Who'll get injured today?
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Should I watch Brazil x Uruguay game or my team's game (it's a derby)?
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>>74835187
why both play at the same day? the fuck is CBF thinking again
God curse cable specialized channels!
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Today Chile wins at the stadium, tomorrow at the trenches!
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>yfw Chile is 2dnd with 26 points after the next two games
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>>74835227
What country is that at the north of Uruguay?
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>>74835224
CBF didn't do anything this time, FERJ who decided to do this shit.
The game was supposed to start at 18:00, but they decided to change the game's schedule and it will start at 21:45.
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>>74835257
>yfw Chile will be the new Sweden in your life time
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Post some god tier formations
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>>74835274
O SUL E O MEU PAIS
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how are ecuador 3rd? are they good?
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excited, guys. nothing better. unfortunately lately these have been clashing with USA matches so havent been able to watch. but lets do this

colombia easy win
paraguay 1-0 keeping them alive
uruguay 1 brasil 1
venezuela 0 peru 1 (somehow)
argentina 2 chile 1
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>>74835291
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Why doesn't icardi play for Argentina
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>>74834306
>>74834249
Chilean here who travels around.

I was at the Chile-Urugay game with my il brother and my close cloworker/his wife. As soon as we go the stadium, my coworker (the calmest guy I know) started to argue with an older guy and his son since they asked to him move because my coworker had the wrong seats, as the coworker began to move; the older guy taped his sholder to direct him and the coworker entered some bizarre nigger mode mode we had never seen before and started pushing the old man and insulting the shit out of him in ghetto spanish; 'feo conchetumare, chupame el pico viejo reculiao, blahblah etc'

The rest of us, including his wife, were in complete disbelief in regards to this chimpout; it was nothing like him lol.

For the rest of the game though, not only him, but even I and my brother all has this high test angry energy about the game and bullied/shouted shit to/ and just booed the fuck out of suarez and cavani ('i did'nt do it for cavani, he's genially a qt and good huma bein"). I think Suarez the hothead coudln't handle this much chitlean banter, hence why he raged so much and got the yellow.


tl;dr people are fucking savages at south american stadiums
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Una Vela
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>>74835332
They are pretty good at home, but pretty shit away.
Their only home lost was against Brazil: Ecuador 0 - Brazil 3 and their only away win was against Argentina: Argentina 0 - Ecuador 2
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>>74835332
muh altitude

theyre cheaters is what they are
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>>74835362
*were against Brazil
*were against Argentina
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>>74835353
not like have full muslims savages in your cunt, fucking mohammed
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>>74835274
Brazilian scum

>>74835332
Altitude.

Still they're quite good as visitors too, they run the entire match, retardedly fast.
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>bra-uru 30 minutes before arg-chi
who's in charge of this shit

fucking idiots
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>>74835410
They don't want Argentina and Uruguay to fix games
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>>74835406
they're literally a portuguese-speaking version of you
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>>74834460

I think he was also tired of dealing with Higuain choking away trophies
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>>74835338
>small ideas in midfield

???
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>>74835410
it's all le conspiracee
nah but really it forces people to buy cable because one channel shows one game and the subsidiary channel shows the other

>>74835403
y u so mad tho

>>74835353
>people are fucking savages at south american stadiums
what do you mean we're the only ones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUavsrRUf-c
meds are hotblooded people
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>>74835434
Only on the surface.
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Will he start playing, argies?
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>>74835485
UNA VELA
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>mfw messi chokes qualifying for the cup he always chokes in

pottery
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>>74835454
mad for what? I just telling the true
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>>74835353
We'd beat the shit out of you, your brother, your coworker and then fuck his wife

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx4izotfuFI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9JZSetZIZk
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>>74835516
>"Chilean here in Sweden"
>call him mohammed
Wilson u mad as f. drink some passion fruit tea or something
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>>74835531
>beating the shit out of Flamengo's players
Based Peñarol
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how many bongs lads?
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Choleans on suicide watch.

http://www.tas-cas.org/en/general-information/news-detail/article/cas-registers-two-appeals-filed-by-the-bolivia-football-federation.html
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>>74835485
Jajajaja, no fucking way, he's literally /our guy/
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>>74835586
one and a half
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>>74833272
Yes
I don't know, last time i remember him playing was for the 2010 qualifiers
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>>74835516
chill out manami quispe
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>>74835609
bolivian football federation is a joke just like their country
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>>74835531
But It was just a short old man and his teenager son haha, my younger brother is a big guy and is so is my coworker so we would have obviously rekt them. The question is, why did we all feel this hostility to begin with?
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>>74833981

Is this the chile meme in brasil? Here we call them "chilenitos" like they're kids trying to mix with the grown ups but they ultimately shouldn't be taken seriously
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>>74835741
"it's just banter"
it's been a while since S.Am. has no wars so it all translates to rivalry
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I fucking hate Ray Hudson
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>>74835741
>why did we all feel this hostility to begin with?
because u faggot chilels have always been hostile towards us, and ever since >le jarita finger the rivalry has been forced hard by the jews for maximum sheckelage. Reminder that before that game you got BTFO 3-0 at centenario with chimpout included by sampaloli and some other of your players
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Can someone give me a rundown of ecuador so far?
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>>74835954
still butthurted by jareta's finger, uruguasho?
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>>74835975
They are really strong at home but really bad at away.

They only lost at home against Brazil.
They only won away against Argentina.

Ecuador 0-3 Brazil
Argentina 0-2 Ecuador
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>>74835798
Actually, it's one of his catchphrases.
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>>74835954
That's because Chile is a small team. They're the same as Velez, they want a clasico because they don't have one.

As Chile grows as a country they want to compete, that's why they try forcing the rivalry between Chile and Argentina(pic related, they call is a clasico) or Chile and Uruguay.

Their journos ask Tabarez about it every time and he tells them that Chile is a great rival but they're not our clasico.
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>>74835975
>Conmebols bow to Ecuador
>In contact with UEFA
>Possess nigger-like abilities
>Control Conmebol with an iron but fair fist
>Own altitude & humidity globally
>Direct descendants of the ancient nigger amirindian blood line
>Will bankroll the first cities in Africa (Ecuadoroplis will be be the first city)
>Own 99% of reball research facilities on Earth
>First designer babies will in all likelihood be Ecuador babies
>Whole NT said to have 215+ IQ, such intelligence on Earth has only existed deep in Tibetan monasteries & Area 51
>Ancient Indian scriptures tell of two niggers who will descend upon Earth and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented technological progress with them
>They own birth certificate R&D labs around the world
>You likely have Ecuabots inside you right now
>Ecuadors is in regular communication with Sepp Blatter and Infantino, forwarding the word of Grondona to the FIFA. Who do you think set up the meeting between the pope & the Blatter high command (First meeting between the two organisations in over 1000 years) and arranged the Blatter's leaders first trip to Africa in history
>They learned fluent Swahili in under a week
>Nation states entrust their gold birth certificates with the Ecuadors. There’s no gold in Ft. Knox, only Ft. Ecuador
>The Ecuador FA is about 7 decades old, from the space-time reference point of the base human currently accepted by our society
>In reality, they are timeless niggers existing in all points of time and space from the big bang to the end of the universe. We don’t know their ultimate plans yet. We hope they’re benevolent beings.
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>>74835531

y pegue, y pegue, y pegue manya pegue!!
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>>74836029
our classic is against peru, top tier chimp out
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>>74836029
wut
our clasico is with Perú and it has always been
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>>74835913
>i hate this deeply passionate guy calling matches off a monitor but manages to keep people involved in the game all 90 minutes
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>>74836029
everyone knows the clasico is with peru
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>>74835798
Kek. It's not even a meme, every journalist say it in a natural way, and is not to make of fun of they either. Just to say that we are terrible and we need them.
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>>74836029
I think Ferrocarril Oeste is the clasico of Velez.
Chile has "clasico del pacifico" with Peru, in 4 or 5 years when vidal and sanchez die for real competition they will get back to appreciate their clasico.
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>>74836062

THIS
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>>74836136
>>74836159
>>74836179
Yes but you're trying to force others because Peru is a nobody.

You even wrote a wikipedia page about it saying it's one of the oldest in south america
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>>74836203
kek
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>>74836203
What was that quote from that Uruguayan saying "with all due respect, our derby is with Brazil or Argentina" and who said it?
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GET HYPED
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>>74834054
Conglombia is a shit team
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>>74836029
Dunno I all the despair tho. Except for the argies we don't have any classico and we are pretty ok with this
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>>74835380
>being this mad
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>>74836288
Mamerto detected
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>>74836322
buena maricón
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Funny how everybody here is saying that Peru is Chile's Clásico, but in the last threads all Chileans were saying "clásico es ganarte asjdkaskadjas".

Must have something to do with what >>74836203 said
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>>74834341
>>74834341
>>74834341
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>>74836342
Peru a este paso se va a ir a conchecaf
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Lets be honest here, every s.american team is shit
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>>74836406
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>>74836406
weak bait muhammad
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>>74833197
>Marchesin
>Rulli
>Barovero
>Capestrini
>Guzman
>Nope, let's stick with Romero
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>>74835306
yfw jaula de pájaro is basically tiki-taka
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>>74836406
D E N T I S T S
E
N
T
I
S
T
S
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>>74836406
>englel
>losing to part-time dentists
>losing 1-1 to >us
>the country where arselel plays

I fear Botswana's Meat Commission more than any English team desu. Fuck, your best athlete isn't even English, he's scottish.
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Perú will try their best!
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>>74836504
Cute.
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>>74836504
>el peruANO del anime
good to see you m8
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>>74836499
>losing 1-1 to >us
Holy shit, I adore you.

>>74836504
Llegó el peruANO
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>>74836504
Hola beato
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>>74836504
Llegó el peruANO del anime
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>>74836062
lol
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>>74834016
Damn I hope Chile and Peru get those points. I really like Argentina but Messi doesnt deserve a WC, I hope he kill himselfs after he shows he is shit without his teammates in UEFALONA
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>>74836626
My enemy...
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>>74836626
I was thinking the same. Based Boli.
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>>74836203
Chile first played against Argentina in 1916, most south american countries didn't even play football at all, back then
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Am I the first one with a lineup?
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>>74836670
yeh
post Bolivia's
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>>74836626
Hello flagbro
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>no COL-BOL matchthread
Why you guys so lazy
>>
>>74836670
Zapata
Armero

JUST
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>>74836684
>bunch of congolombians trolling the only bolivian on 4chan
if you build it, they will come
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>>74836626
How did you change to the LGBT flag?
>>
http://www.strawpoll.me/12592902

VOTE!
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>>74836684
Should I make one?
>>
Not voting because SA is for cute not hate.
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>>74836726
DO IT
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>5 (FIVE) debutants for Bolivia starting

lel
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>>74836726
Yes.
>>74836741
Yes. This guy is love.
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>>74836745
eh
their best player is actually paraguayan so he's forbidden to play
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>>74836704
There's like 4 bolivians.

Also that match doesnt deserve a thread, based Chumasteiger and EsGODbar are here in La Paz, they dont even went to Colombia with the team
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>>74836770
Escobar is forbidden to play for the bolivian national team
i'm not gonna say that you return him or anything, just saying 'tough luck'. may he be prosper in Bolivia
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>>74836770
candy flag spotted
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GOAT
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>>74836670
>>74836678
>>
TODOS DE PIE PARA EL HIMNO
>>
*ERECTO*
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>>74836805
No he is not. He is abble to play since he lived here long enough, he didint travel because our DT want most of the The Strongest team to play against Argentina because they know how to play in La Paz, that's why Castro, Chumacero didint travel either
>>
El boliviANO
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>>74836872
>not a 5-4-1
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>>74834648
>mascherano as attacking mid field

Lol
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>>74836809
says triangled chile flag
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>James
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>>74836670

Christ does Zapata still play for milan
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Just arrived home, laddies. Today is gon b gud.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXoGwPXo_kQ
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>>74836926
It might be a 6-3-1 actually
>>
COMPRENDEEE
LAS PALAAABRASS
DEL QUEEEEE
MURIOOOOO
EN LA CRUUUUUZ
>>
time for some exquisite semen slurping
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>>74836936
Fuck off, he's good
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>>74836406
>englel saying this
lel
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>>74836942
TEMAZO
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>>74836679
Le Cameroun Helvetique
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>baka starting for colombia
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get in here lads
we already won
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>>74836957
I know. Why the fuck is he carrying a baby before the match? Stupid.
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>>74836907
Hermanitoi, un streamcito pues papitoi
En toda seriedad, necesito un stream para ver como Jamemes y Flacao nos hacen un bebe de culo.
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post some velas
>>
IT STARTS
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>>74836990
how much do you want
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>>74836990
>>
Game time

What are your futbol snacks?
>>
>>74836872

No Chumasteiger :(
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>>74836982
He's harvesting the energy of the innocent child
>>
Charlie Cow Iads
>>
GOOOOOOOOAL 1-0

WE DID IT LADS
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>>74837014
>>
first goal and it's offside already
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>>74837027
>Alpen negger
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>>74832827
>the absolute state of socialism
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>>74837014
>What are your futbol snacks?
Muzzarella/Milanesa/Chivito or Gramajo and if I'm watching with friends Crisps, Peanuts and that type of picada stuff.
>>
I unironically think the Bolivian all green kit is aesthetic af
>>
As long as they have THE STRONGEST players as a base, Bolivia won't lose.
>>
HUYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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>>74837058
They don't though
>>
>>74837058
Pablo Escobar stayed in La Paz...
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>>74837059
>t. Fritz von Thurn und Taxis
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>Bolivia's GK with Boca Juniors colors

what did Bolivia mean by this?
>>
>>74837058
they saving it for the Argentina match
>>
Col-Bol thread:

>>74837051
>>
>>74836987
>No viendo el partido en HD en BoliviaTV

No sé bro, en Facebook debe haber

>>74837058
Literally every The Strongest player stayed in La Paz
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>No Chumagol
>Can't watch the match at work

JUST
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>>74837079
Estoy en la oficina porque >wagecuck ;_;
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Stream: http://tamsjoint.biz/bein-sports-11/
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>>74837092
Yo igual, pero tenemos tele acá.

Rojadirecta debe haber bastantes
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>>74837083
Why is he not playing?
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>>74837083
stupid wagecuck
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>>74837142
DT decided that all The Strongest players should stay in La Paz for Argentina
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is argentina in actual trouble if they lose and colombia beats bolivia? i can't imagine argentina not being in the world cup.
>>
Is this /copalib/?
>>
>>74837142
Apparently resting for the Argie match, gl vs the Hues btw
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>>74837178
lol no it's /conmebol/
>>
>tfw you will never be able to lace Cuardrados shoes

Just end me lads
>>
Another stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmxVheiMYI4
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>>74837178
/conmoebol/
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>>74837160
>>74837179
Well you're already out anyways.

It's bullshit you got points taken because of that guy though
>>
>>74837175
There are "tough" matches ahead. The general perception of this matchday here is "Argentina's last chance of qualifying in its own way". If we let this matchday go, it's not uo to us anymore, we need 3rd results
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>>74837226
>3rd results
exito bro
>we depend on the results of others*
i know that feel
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>The name of the club is The Strongest
>They actually are.
Beautiful.
>>
Why is the BeIN streaming website so fucking shitty
>>
>>74837263
>tfw Blooming lifelong fan
We will be back some day lads.
>>
>>74837226
>in its own way

no grondona anymore senpai
>>
MOIDABALL
>>
>this goalkeeper
>>
>>74837286
Kek, not you are not. Good luck trying to stay alive
>>
>>74837348
DELET
>>
>>74836927
Hes just there to cover for messi
>>
>>74837185
but the very first Copa Libertadores threads were named /conmebol/ too
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GOAT Lineup


----------------Romero-------------
Mercado--Otamendi--Rojo--Mas
Biglia--Mascherano--Messi--Di Maria
----------Aguero--Higuain-------
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>>74837414
hmmm true. we should have a different name for this, like /csfplayoffs/ or sumthin'

>>74837442
really made me think....
>>
ARGENTINA OUT OF THE WORLD CUP

LET IT HAPPEN
>>
>UruguayxBrasil referee is Argentinian

welp we're fucked
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>>74837489
deja de poner el parche antes de la herida lloron de mierda
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>>74837463
>tf
>tp
Oh boys its the Ronaldo nut hugger and argie weeb.
>>
>>74837442
Nice meme friend.
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>>74837505
vamos a perder hoy. no hay chance
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>>74837545
DEJA DE HACER CABALA, CAGON DE MIERDA

>HURR SI DIGO QUE VAMOS A PERDER, VAMOS A GANAR
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>>74837449
>----------------Rosemary-------------
>Market--Otamendi--Red--More
>William--Morecheranus--Desordenado--O'Mary
>----------Omen--Higuain-------

Ftfy
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>>74837489
>ArgentinaxChile ref is the ref for the ChilexUruguay CA2015
>We have never lost with him in the pitch
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>>74837552
No se a que te referis
>>
>Alexis
>getting 4th
familiar feeling
>>
>>74837489

If Argentina loses WE'RE fucked.
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> If Bolivia doesn't win today they are gonna surpass Luxembourg record of most away matches without winning for WC QL, with 53.
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>>74837835
well at least they're gonna win something
>>
>no suarez
>no muslera
Can we even hope to win today?
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>>74837888
This Southamerica m8. Everything is possible.
>>
>>74837835
surely only counting those nations that actually won an away game once?
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>>74837916
There are countries that have never won an away match for qualifiers?
>>
what are the times in eastern i dont give a fuck bout poor american times
>>
>>74837489
cuantos años tenes? SIEMPRE es asi
y al reves tambien
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>>74837936
San Marino and Andorra, perhaps? Maybe Gibraltar.
>>
>>74837888
No. Get ready for the ass reaming of a lifetime.
>>
>>74837938
add +2 hours to each
>>
>>74837938
>>74838015
I think it's add +1 because of Daylight Savings Time.
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>>74837936
Well tbf the WC Qualifiers have always been poorly handled. IIRC Europe until the 70s just picked 3/5 teams regionally close and made a group out of them. Southamerica used Copa America as quaifiers sometimes, and other times retarded group systems. I dont think Concacaf, CAF, AFC & OFC have settled a regular quaifying system already (and most of its countries are barely proffesional).

Also countries like this >>74837985 exist
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>>74838124
Like Germany?
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>>74838114
not sure. but Peru AFAIK is UTC -5, so calculate it from there

>JAMEMEMES
>>
>>74837938
> Paraguay Ecuador
> Uruguay Brazi
In 1 hour 10 min~
> Venezuela Peru
> Argentina Chile
is in 1 hours 40 mins ~
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>>74836942
Is this the Bogdanoff sister?
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>>74838015
>>74838114
>>74838243
>>74838243
gracias amigos
>>
>>74838175
GDR hasn't won a qualifier in the last 25 years
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>>74837888
>no muslera

good news for you then
>>
>>74838284
>>74838284
Isn't East Germany a Concacaf team now?
>>
>>74838246
yeh lol

>>74838260
thanks
might as well not create new thread for the PAR x ECU game. there's no ecuadorians here, they're all busy at /pol/
>>
>this game

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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>>74838315
wew
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pretty
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>>74838346
more like
>bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>bbbbbbbbbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>>
>>74838402
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Th%C3%A4lmann_Island
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>>74838407
i unironically like those south american stadiums.
>>
>>74838416
>Egidio Arevalo

Are you fucking mental Uruguay?
>>
Why have they not banned vuvuzelas from all sporting events?
>>
>>74838407
>Arevalo Rios
WHY
>>
>>74838340
>busy at pol
yeah sure
>>
Colombia wtf are you doing?
>>
>>74838416
>>74838444
>you now remember that Uruguayan who seriously thought they could rape Brazil with this shit
>>
>>74838416
>Firmino
>QTinho

Y'all guys need Jesus.
>>
>>74838443
well it's the only monument of football in the world so you might as well like it.


>>74838444
he always plays, desu I'd rather have him than Vecino.
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>>74836872
>Marccelo Moreno
Wew
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>>74838453
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>>74838444
Not mental, just senile.
>>
>>74838453
there is something happening?
>>
>>74838474
>>74838484

Jeez, he was legit good like 5 years ago, the last years he have been playing like shit in the two worse teams. You rather have everyone
>>
>>74838416
>Rolán
Honestly i've no idea who could be there.


>Vecino
Could've used de Arrascaeta

>C.Rodriguez
Could've used Laxalt

>Arevalo Rios
Cristoforo is better

Rest is fine.
>>
>>74838528
>i rate De Arrascaeta
Your that uruguayan that wants him to play doble cinco with josema? kek
>>
>>74838498

omg, le llego el viejazo al profe ¿como esta de salud? cuando jugaron acá y se armo la toletole me preocupe mas por el que por mi selección.
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>>74835485
>>
You now remember this goal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLUwV1S1j-g
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>>74838520
Yeah but he transforms in Uruguay, Arevalo Rios plays like shit in his teams but he takes every ball when playing for Uruguay. He's not been as good lately but he's better than others called right now.

le Onion does it too, in the past years he's been playing poorly in his teams but whenever he plays for Uruguay he can't stop running and creating chances, now he plays for Peñarol and does the same(runs like crazy).
>>
>>74838416
Why is king Rata not playing?
>>
>>74838416
>Renato Augusto
>Paulinho
>Firmino
JUST
>>
>>74838416
>Martin Silva

Literally who?

Where is Muslera?
>>
>>74838528
Arrascaeta is shit. I prefer Vecino 200%
I prefer Cebolla, at least until he drops dead and then put Laxalt
Arevalo Rios needs to go, sadly his time is over and there are plenty to take his place (cristoforo, nantes, vecino when we play with another type of mc, some kid of the sub-20, whatever)
>>
>>74838568
de Arrascaeta is better than Vecino, you can't possibly tell me otherwise. As for Josema, Simeone plays him as a 5 and he's good at it because he's fast and has good control on top of being a good defense.

Tabarez is wasting the great names we have like Cavani and Suarez, we'll never win jack shit because he ruins the team with weak players.
>>
>>74838586
Lo recuerdo clarito gritando "LA CONCHA DE TU MADRE"
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>>74838628
>dissing based Martin Silva
>>
>>74838604
two yellows. Is kind of stupid play a league kind of qually and you can only accumulate 2 yellows. Every fucking team is in the same condition, like 8 players with one yellow and 2 or 3 suspended with 2 yellows.
>>
>>74838586
Ahora esta mucho mejor, pero estuvo muy complicado de la espalda un buen tiempo. Por eso andaba con el autito en las practicas kek

Ademas de eso, si ya esta viejito.

F
>>
>>74838702
It's not about being old, it's a disease that deteriorates the muscles or some shit.

He's only 70, my grandpa was buying groceries by bike until 80
>>
>>74838644
Vecino>>>>>>De Arrascaeta>Gaston Rodriguez>>>>>Lodeiro
>>
>>74838730
Vecino is a dumb fuck that goes off the pitch against fucking Mexico and makes us lose games.
>>
>>74836957
t. Javier Bonnet
>>
>>74838644
>comparing vecino and de arrascaeta
Get over it, Vecino is a starter for Fiorentina playing regularly in Serie A as a mixed midfielder with good positioning and handling. De arrascaeta is Lodeiro 3.0.
>>
BENULTY
>>
>game is decided by penalty

the state of CONEMLEL
>>
>>74838832
It wasn't a penalty goal
>>
>>74838801
>Serie A
>>
>>74838801
I can´t believe that there is still people that believe that De Arrascaeta worth something more than be a bench warmer in the national team.
>>
>>74838505
>checking /pol/
>ctrl+f ecuador
>0 results
nothing happening also elections soon!
LASSO PRESIDENTE
Muerte a los progres revolucionarios
>>
>>74838845
>this damage control

face it. South America a shit
>>
>>74838856
>Brazilerao
>>
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>>74838260
>>
>>74838881
Brasileirão > Serie A minus juventus, roma and napoli
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>>74838896
meme team desu sempais
>>
>>74838832
>838832 ▶>>74838845
>>game is decided by penalty
>the state of CONEMLEL

CONGOLOMBIA using refball
mentira expuesta
>>
>>74838896
>Iturbe
>>
>>74838896
>Dat Defense

Are you angry about Pablo Aguilar Paraguayans anons?
>>
>>74838933
i don't miss him at all
but man, why the fuck Paulo da Silva still playing, he's the new Carlos Gamarra FFS
>>
>>74838881

>lolJuvewins A
>>
>>74838933
no
>>
>>74838628
Silva is miles better than Muslera you retard
>>
Me voy a partir de risa cuando nos ganen los venezolANOS.
>>
>>74839302
>7-1
>>
any acestream for uruguay brazil?
>>
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>full capacity for getting raped by Brazil

toppest kek
>>
>>74839389
(You)
>>
>>74839417
dat 1980's feel
>>
>>74838429
0.05% of Germans know about this
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>>74839389
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZI2i2btO_0
>>
>>74839439
That's because 99.95% of germans are from arab/somalian descendancy.
>>
>>74839460
extremely rude
>>
>>74838407
This stadium is absolutely gorgeous.
>>
>>74839460
jokes on you, I was talking about those of full German descent only
>>
>>74839460
Aren't we all? :)
>>
>>74838896
kek Patiño will not play, he just injured himself on the preview and Moreira will replace him
>>
hey you south american FUCKS
who is the GOAT player of each country in SA?
>>
>>74839561
sorry, it's Darío Verón

TODOS DE PIE PARA EL HIMNO
>>
>>74839585
Lopez all countries but Brasil. Brasil is Lopesinho
>>
>wasting time praying
not to be fedorafag or anything but not even God can make us qualify now
>>
>>74839745
heh
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Novoa is kill
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Vamos Perú!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieSyI9yu00M
>>
>>74839916
>peru
>white
>>
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLl
>>
>LELCUADOR
JUGADORES DE EMELEC EN LA SELECCIÓN CAUSA ESTOS PAPELONES
GRACIAS CORREA!
>>
GOL GOL GOL GOL GOL
>>
/r/equesting Paraguay vs Ecuador stream
>>
Bien Paraguay
>>
>>74840087
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOg3XckvuSI
>>
>>74840087
i'm watching it on tv. here try this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2daOfkB62w
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>>74837014
>>
>>74840196
>Pichanga
Basado.
>>
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>>74840196
Deberias comer mas saludablemente.
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>>74840196
jajaj el clasico queso crema con soya
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tie goal soon here
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>>74840650
Ecuador with that defensive faggot as DT they'll never produce an attack. Look how they're losing balls in the middle
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>>74840755
they're counting with the obvious choke that will happen on the next half
por qué los equipos paraguayos son tan pilachica
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Negros Brutos
>>
HALF TIME
story so far:
PAR 1 x 0 ECU
URU 1 x 1 BRA
ARG 1 x 0 CHL
VEN 0 x 0 PER
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gol de memezuela lol
>>
Does Peru have the highest number of weebs per capita?
>>
NOT
TRYING
THEIR
BEST
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>>74841712
That's right also Chile
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por que hay tantos negros en Ecuador y por que Paraguay es tan blanco
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>>74841991
Por qué hay 9 defensores para parar un ataque ecuatoriano?
Hay muchos negros porque son de una zona llamada el Valle del Chota o en Esmeraldas son las zonas con más negros donde nacen la mayoría de los futbolistas
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>>74842114
>Valle del Chota
wew lad
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>EL TOPO CACELEL
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>>74842114
>Valle del Chota
lol
also
>topokek
>>
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAOOLL
>>
>El equipo azul de MEMECUADOR
GRACIAS EMELEC CON ESE ARQUERO
GRACIAS CORREA POR ORDENAR AL DT LOS JUGADORES QUE JUEGUEN LOS TUYOS
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Based best guay
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FIUI
PARAGUAY
FIUI
PARAGUAY
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>>74840196
>pichanga
>>
gol de descuento
>>
THE MOST DANGEROUS LEAD
THE MOST DANGEROUS LEAD
THE MOST DANGEROUS LEAD

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL!
FELIPAO
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AND NOW: to waste time because batteries are over
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>Richard Ortiz
JUST
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HORA REFERIIIIII
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>>74843503
Ese venezolano pitando es bien localista pero buen partido de ustedes. Nosotros pecamos por tener un dt demasiado defensivo que hace cambios a los 86
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WARRIOR
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Who can stop him?
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>>74843779
hasta me siento triste porque bien que Argentina y Brasil ayudaron, pero Bolivia nos falló

>>74843901
>our next match is against him
DESPAIR
>>
someone post the updated table
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>>74843962
Paraguay no volverá a ir a un mundial por del fracaso contra España en 2010, puto Cardozo merece que le corten las piernas, ustedes dejaron ganar al campeón más aburridor de la historia; eran mi equipo favorito, traidores.
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>>74843962
Sabes que solo 1 de 10 reporteros deportivos están criticando al dt y su funcionamiento ultra defensivo. Tremenda corruptela de estómagos agradecidos en la prensa ecuatoriana.
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>>74844157
not updated yet on the official page but so far:
>#1 BR 30
>#2 UY 23
>#3 AR 22
>#4 CO 21
>#5 EC 20 (goal diff +5)
>#6 CL 20 (goal diff +3)
>#7 PY 18
>#8 PE 15
>#9 BO 7
>#10 VE 6

>>74844558
y, el fúlbo es así
a veces no se puede escapar de la maldición de Chaco
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>>74844558
qué opinaban los ecuatorianos de Maturana, Suárez, el bolillo Gómez y Rueda?
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4th Day is happening now, 3 matches today

>High School second biggest tournament in japan, losers sometimes cry of shame

http://mainichi.jp/koshien/senbatsu/live/

Extra links:

NHK G Stream (less lag but they cut the game a lot for NHK E that dont have stream)
http://vaughnlive.tv/sherming9

Schedule: http://www.nhk.or.jp/koushien/

Bracket: http://www.nhk.or.jp/koushien/tournament/
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>>74844714
OH FUCK WHY THIS COMES TO HERE?

im sorry futbol people
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So... what's up with competitive curling nowadays?
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>>74844663
based
thanks bestguay
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>>74844714
Stupid weeb
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>>74844686
En mi opinión, dieron una identidad al Ecuador todo equipo nos ganaba. El bolillo se fue porque el hijo del presidente en ese entonces (Abdala Bucaram) le picaba el culo por ser jugador profesional, como no lo convocaron persiguieron al bolillo y lo golpearon pero sobrevivió al atentado, Su Suarez y Rueda tuvieron un juego similar al principio (súper ofensivo) pero por manejos internos no los dejaban convocar a los jugadores correctos. Se supo que empresarios ponían a los jugadores en esos períodos.
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>>74844714
>high school
Are there qts there anon?
>>
>>74844714
Dumb weeb
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>>74839448
Until that day, I thought germans genociding minorities was a thing of the past
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>>74844987
mierda, el ecuador de Rueda me parecía tan interesante de ver, ese equipo no tenía miedo de atacarle a Brasil, así se comieran 3 goles
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at least 7 CONMEBOL teams should be in the world cup.

we need to have a UEFA + CONMEBOL breakaway and make our own world cup without wasting places to utter shit like Australia, Iran, Honduras etc
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>that Uruguayan talking shit before the Brazil match got BTFO
>Chileans currently out of a world cup place because they lost to >us (while both teams played like SHIT)
>Ecuador proving me right - they're decaying and now they're in a playoff spot, only due to goal difference
>Bolivia losing
>>
Que alguien postee el nuevo cuadro o monas chinas porfa.
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>>74845501
Let me guess England should participate too?? I agree if you guys are out of it.
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>>74845536
What happened to Ecuador? They used to be 1st
>>
>>74845501

Costa Rica topped your group
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>>74835227
RECORDATORIO
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>>74845607
They're ok 2bh. Everyone knows they're trash away.
>>
countries that deserve to go to the world cup

Brazil (it earned it and are playing better than everyone else, they are also qualified so yeah)

Argentina (messi)

Uruguay (I mean these faggots put a lot of work and have suarez)

Chile (they got a good team)

5th spot should be played in a 3 way hell in cell match between colombian paraguay and ecuador.
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>>74845678
Saludos, "hermano"
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>>74845607
I've been saying this shit for year

ALL THEIR GOOD PLAYERS GOT OLD. The win against Argentina was one of their last gasps. I wouldn't be surprised if they failed to qualify to the world cup.
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>>74845678
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>>74845726
>hell in cell
+18
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>>74845726
>Chile (they got a good team)
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>>74845741
You are a fucking retard, we are only 2 points ahead and they have an easier fixture
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>>74845607
meme run winning the first 4 games
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Porque siempre llueve cuando jugamos
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>>74845795
No, the retard here is you.

>Colombia next
>then they're away against Brazil
Don't be surprised if they get 0 points out of that

>then they're home vs Peru
>then away against Chile
3 points at most here

>then back home against >us
1 point, if that

and this is all assuming that their best players are all there. If there's suspensions or injuries, they're getting less than 4 points out of the remaining fixtures.
>>
>OHHHHH, DAN VERGUENZA
>SON LOCALES Y NO ALIENTAN

#topbantz
>>
>>74845741
>>74845824
ecuador at home
4 wins
1 defeat
1 draw

ecuador away
2 wins
4 defeats
1 draw

nothing happened. they just only win at home (except for the first 2 games)
>>
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>>74845874
this delusion
>>
>>74845933
From you, yes.
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>>74845771
Implying it wouldn't be awesome
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mfw Pachakek didn't help us this time
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r8 the new chart m8s
>>
>>74845581
>>74845674
im not english you thick, ignorant cunt
>>
>>74846060
man, I've been wondering this for a while, do Peru really try their best? doesn't look like it
>>
>>74845412
Al principio de la era Rueda era bien interesante ver jugar a Ecuador. Ahora este pelele que tenemos cree que por ganar a argentina en casa cuando tenían problemas ya se siente clasificado. Además este DT tuvo 3 copas compradas por el gobierno socialista porque el presidente es fanático del Emelec.
>>
this is how you fix argentina

Rulli
Mussachio - Otamendi - Rojo
Perez - Fernandez - Mascherano
Messi
Di Maria - Icardi - Dybala
>>
Being realistic now and looking the next matches:

> Brazil will qualify on the next round
- Paraguay (H) - Win
- Ecuador (H) - Win
- Colombia (A) - Win or Tie
- Bolivia (A) - Tie or Loss because of meme altitude
- Chile (H) - Win or Tie
- Expectations: between 9 and 13 points of the 15 remaining

> Uruguay qualifies
- Peru (A) - Win
- Argentina (H) - Win or Tie
- Paraguay (A) - Win
- Venezuela (A) - Win or Tie
- Bolivia (H) - Win
- Expectations: between 11 and 15 points of the 15 remaining

> Colombia qualifies
- Ecuador (A) - Tie or Loss
- Venezuela (A) - Win
- Brazil (H) - Tie or Loss
- Paraguay (H) - Win
- Peru (A) - Win
- Expectations: between 9 and 11 points of the 15 remaining

> Chile qualifies and steals Argie's spot
- Venezuela (H) - Win
- Paraguay (H) - Win
- Bolivia (A) - Tie or Loss
- Ecuador (H) - Win
- Brazil (A) - Tie or Loss
- Expectations: between 9 and 11 points of the 15 remaining

> Ecuador struggles but qualifies
- Colombia (H) - Win or Tie
- Brazil (A) - Loss
- Peru (H) - Win
- Chile (A) - Loss
- Argentina (H) - Win or Tie
- Expectations: between 5 and 9 points of the 15 remaining

> Argentina struggles until the last round
- Bolivia (A) - Tie or Loss
- Uruguay (A) - Tie or Loss
- Venezuela (H) - Win or Tie
- Peru (H) - Win
- Ecuador (A) - Tie or Loss because of meme altitude
- Expectations: between 1 and 9 points of the 15 remaining
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>>74846275
>no Mercado

stick to hockey
>>
>>74846087
NOOOOOOOOOOOO NOOOOOOOOOOO LA PUTA MADRE
>>
>>74846109
I would've approved the original plan for the new WC format. Then we could have send 6 teams: 4 to Final Stage & 2 to First Stage, with high chances of those 2 teams being NTs like Paraguay, Peru, Chile, the Colombia Bros. against the likes of Arabia Saudi or Uzbekistan. Not saying this would increase the chances of Southamericans champions but it would bring best matches imho.
>>
>>74846276
>everybody wins againt Perú
You'll see.
>>
NEW DISCUSSION

>>74846096
>>74846096
>>74846096
>>
>>74845607
DT calls the same old people
Just 2 or 3 are ok
Dreer as GK is a joke when you have Azcona who was goat in Del Valle.
He loves is emelec boys is a faggot.
We need literally a Tite here
>>
Mega's transmission gave me aids
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>>74845556
Tome sus monas señor
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>>74846139
Peruvians are manlets whose only game is 5 a side style tiki-taka. Its rivals usually score with headers and wet the pitch when it doesn't rain, this kills the peruvian NT
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>>74846372
Do you have better players in Mexico/MLS/retirement leagues or some ecuadorian league players are looking promising?
>>
>>74846356
You do know that your only serious chance is against Bolivia, right?
>>
>>74846549
You'll fucking see.
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>>74845678
>nido
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>>74846430
I thought Perú played hoof it to paul warrior
>>
>>74846276
"THE" game worth watching will be Ecuador x Argentina on round 18. Potential epic refballing on 3000+ meters.
>>
>>74846430
>Peruvians are manlets
thank god we have Mina, Davinson and Zapata; Jamemes and Sanchez aren't that short either; still Urgay is the GOAT in southamerica for headers
>>
>>74835403
BASED BOLIVIA
>>
>>74846633
Reffball for the argies, right?
>>
>>74835485
He's literally /sp/ incarnated
>>
>>74846109
Yeah, you're right, Sadiq.
>>
>>74846623
That's plan B, used 90% of the time
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>>74846692
Of course, with Sandro Meira Ricci being hailed as a national hero.
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See you next week.
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>>74846831
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>>74846831
Good night, Peru
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>>74846432
That's DT job looking for promises like: Casquete, Cevallos, some guys from U. Catolica. But Gustavo Quinteros thinks we are powerful enough to qualify
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>>74836029
Our clasico is with Peru. Argentina has Brazil already
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>>74846432
Also these are the results that are ok for this sport reporters and DT.

I seriously hope we don't deserve a qualify just to watch Ecuador burn
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>Bauza: "We played a brilliant game"
What did he mean by this?
>>
>>74847116
He doesn't have a soul anon
>>
It was a good day.
>>
>>74847116
Is Bauza senile? he has no grip of reality
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>>74847258
Journalists are saying he's taking the piss and making fun of them
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>>74847258
Have him and Centurión married yet?
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