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It's fucking HAPPENING LMAO

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Wenger STAYING. The Guardian, Mirror, Mail and Sun all reporting it.
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JUSSSSTTTTTTTTT
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arsene knows la
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WONGA IN
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he cant keep getting way with it
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LOL I hope he stays


I also hope Dortmund stays together as much as possible, they're young and fun to watch. I'm guessing Bayern Munich will snatch up a bunch though.
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Can't spell Arsenal without senile
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>>74784671
>Mail and Sun

So there's at least two reputable sources reporting it.
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>>74784671
Can he save Liverpool?
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>>74784671
TYBG
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>>74786053
Is curb your enthusiasm over?
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What was Wenger thinking sending Walcott on early like that?
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>>74786276
the ting about arsene is, he always wants continue
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>>74786245
season 9 is happening
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Tuchel seems very committed to assembling his own dortmund squad who can play his system to a tee and only just started, why would he leave for fucking arsenal of all places?
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Based Arsene!!
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>>74787646
Money maybe, idk how much arsenal is legitimately willing to shell out though. All of the fans managerial targets (allegri, tuchel, etc.) are at better clubs and its debatable whether or not arsenal would be willing persuade them through compensation.
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>>74787826
I'll add onto this, would these managers really have the owners monterary interests at heart? Its no secret that Kroenke is more interested in money than results, and Wenger takes the financial scheme of Arsenal extemely seriously. The highest paid player at arsenal atm is Ozil at £140k/week, which is incredibly low for a top club in the premier league barring spurs, whom have only had consecutive top 4 placings recently.

As long as Kroenke is in charge I dont see Arsene Wenger leaving.
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WENGER IN
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CANT PARSE THE ARSE
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>>74786053
Not until he saves team USA first
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>>74787826
>>74788111
Wenger is the 4th best paid manager in Europe right now. His salary almost triples Allegri's and altough the exact number is not known it's likely that Wenger's salary is multiple times larger than the one Tuchel recieves at Dortmund.

So, yeah. Arsenal are not a big spending club when it comes to players, but they seem to pay their manager very well.
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>>74788573
you are 100% correct, but their financial policy is more relevant in this situation. As said, Wenger takes the financial state of Arsenal very seriously, however, paying one manager is not the same as paying as entire squad. Its similar to how a club would rather sack a manager than replace the entire team, its extremely cheaper. Wenger is paid a lot of money because he keeps the financial state of Arsenal at an impressive level in terms of their expense level. However, I can completely see what you're saying, great post chile.
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>>74788573
>>74788621
seriously senpai I would love to hear more of what you think. Im not an Arsenal fan but I find them a very interesting club.
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I'll never question the manager
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as long as he doesn't question my fanbase
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>>74786015
Found the liberal pleb
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>>74784671
L M A O
M
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>>74787826
Arsenal Wenger earns £8.3 million a year, Allegri is on about £3.9 million a year. And even though Wenger only earns that much because he's been at the club for so long, he'll still get paid a lot more at Arsenal. As a reference, Klopp is on £7 million a year, Conte is on £6.5 million a year and Pochettino is on £5.5 million a year. The only clubs that match the wages of the top 6 PL clubs are Barcelona, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich. Even Benitez earns £4.5 million a year and he's a Championship manager.
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Wenger is never the problem. The problem is in the boardroom and clubs like Chelshit and Man City spending extraordinate amount of money to buy players.
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All the people with banners should just tell the board to give Wenger the funds. Just give him the funds to buy some superstars.

Arsenal just have shit depth and their 1st team isn't top 4 quality. They have ONE world class star (even that is up for debate considering Sanchez and/or Kosc probably wouldn't get into Bayern's 1st team) and the rest are shit. The fact that he takes that pile of shit to a top 4 finish every year is a miracle in itself, but it's now catching up to him because none of the team have progressed or grown. Oxlade, Ramsey, Walcott and Gibbs are at the near the same level they were when they started and declining - fast. They need to open the cheque book and sign some superstars if they want to win the league / challenge for the CL.

Along with that, they need to sign someone with a bit of mongrel in him. Their team is full of pretty boy twinks like Giroud and Bellerin who care more about their hair than playing. Get some superstars, get some tough nut leg breaker as well, and they might not continue their path of being a laughing stock.
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>>74789768
>If Arsenal competed alone, they would win everything
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>>74789775
wenger doesn't see 'value' in the market and doesn't spend though
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>>74784671
wenger is to arselel what moyes was to everton
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>>74789782
13 years at Arsenal without winning anything for boss who proves you don't need trophies to be a winner but he is a winner
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>>74789780
I assumed that was a board thing, where they are like Liverpool where they only want to sign young guys who they can then sell at a profit once developed.

I mean, the bloke paid however much for Mustafi and Xhaka, there wasn't value in their signings but he still got them.
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See this guy posted all three time. What's his deal? Any American sport comparisons?
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>>74789809
>Any American sport comparisons?
he's the white power kaepernick
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>>74789768
Leicester won the PL with a very cheap squad. And Arsenal have been spending big since 2013. Granit Xhaka was £5 million more expensive than Kante. Last season was just proof that Wenger can't win the league anymore. Usually you can say "the other teams are bigger than us and we simply can't compete". But every big team inexplicably collapsed and Arsenal still failed to win.

The board are cancerous and only care about lining their pockets rather than winning trophies, but Wenger is at fault for most of Arsenal's problems. He overplays players which causes them to get injured all the time, his defensive tactics means that the CBs are on the half-way line and it's incredibly easy for teams to counter-attack them, he's too soft on the players and can't motivate them to play well, he gives up on signing good players whenever a bigger club enters the bid (meaning that he's stuck signing overpriced players that no-one else wants).
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>>74789809
Think Jeff Fisher.
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>>74789768
but muh warchest. Wenger has been the only constant this last decade and everything wrong with the team can be traced to him and his retarded methods. he can fuck off.
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Life keeps getting better for Spurs fans.
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>>74784975
video of this man?
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>>74789798
It was around £30 million each for Mustafi and Xhaka. A bit more for Mustafi I think.
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>>74784671

Always remember who made us the 5th richest club in the world. Wenger gets to decide when he has to leave and he will leave on his own terms, not because of some pathetic brutes who do not understand what it means to support your club unconditionally
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who needs world class players when you can walk it in once very six games against relegation fodder lol

wenga IN
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>>74789768
Yes lad let's forget that Leicester are the PL champions and currently in the CL quarter finals.

>it's all about the money blud"
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>>74784671
The back of the Times says:

> Wenger: the financial cost of finishing outside the top four would not be as punishing as in the past. Not any more. That was the case for a long time but not today. Of course on the sporting front it would be a blow but financially the Champions League does not have the impact anymore that it had five or six years ago.

Fuck. When did he become such a Jew? It's said to see Wenger the football genius turn into Wenger the banker over the last 20 years. >>74784671
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Nothing will change because Wenger can't spot talented defenders
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>>74789775
He does get the funds
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>>74790112
>6th is like a trophy
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>>74790124
The only way to hurt this club now is to stop going to the matches. How are arse cucks happy to pay the highest prices on the planet to get into Top 6?
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>>74790131
they aren't but they love the club so they go anyway. they have one of the best attendance records in the league which is impressive considering how much of their fanbase they've priced out
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Why doesn't he change his first name to Arsenal? Would be appropriate and doesn't even require too many letters to be changed.
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>>74790131
Because they are cucked, you said it yourself
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>>74789945

Who else /akb/ here?
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>>74790132
>special snowflakes
>more loyal than others
no
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>>74790087
to be fair Arsenal routinely get shafted in the RO16 by drawing Bayern
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Bahahahahha how long are arsenal cucks going to take wonga fucking them in the anus?

Can you get anymore cucked?

How long are you going to bend over and take this punishment?
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http://pollmill.com/f/what-is-the-size-of-winny-putri-lubis-nipple-hfs8p7k/answers/new.html
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Remember a couple years ago when Arsenal got Monaco - with a 34 year old Berbatov upfront - in the CL last 16, and still went out?
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>>74790160
>y-yes lads were finally going to m-make it was we drew an easy team
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>>74790152
yea that's what I wrote you frilly nigger
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>>74789768
Leicester is perfect example that money doesn't play on the pitch, so it's not Chelshit or City fault. Wenger have a lot of money and possibilities to make his club the biggest in PL. But he's strategy is a cancer.
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>>74790153
how come atletico didnt get shafted by buyern then? arsenal are just shit
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>>74790173
Because Atletico have better players than Arsenal?
It's tougher to assemble a team with foreign talent than with homegrown (or at least national).
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>>74790160
That was a good Monaco side. They had Carrasco, Joao Moutinho Koondogbia and Martial.
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ITS TIME TO GO
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ITS TIME TO GO
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>>74790153
(1)They get tough Round of 16 draws because Wenger and Arse always shit the bed in the group stage, scraping a 2nd place finish even when they're the top seeded team. This season being the only exception where they were unlucky to draw Bayern.

(2)Even when the drew a shit Monaco team they still got BTFO.
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>>74790198
No such thing as a shit Monaco team.
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>>74790179
>Because Atletico have better players than Arsenal?
and whos fault is that? whos fault is it that a team with half of arsenals budget has better players? surely not the manager, right?

>It's tougher to assemble a team with foreign talent than with homegrown (or at least national).
dont arsenal have more homegrown than any other team?
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>>74790209
>whos fault is it that a team with half of arsenals budget has better players? surely not the manager, right?
Arsène even got pressured into buying Özlel by Arsenal "fans". See where that got them.
>dont arsenal have more homegrown than any other team?
Yes, exactly my point. English players are generally shit, Spanish players aren't.
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>>74790223
>Arsène even got pressured into buying Özlel by Arsenal "fans". See where that got them.

It "got" them 2 FA Cups and a world class midfielder.
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>>74790236
wew
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>>74790223
You're mad if you feel Wenger is pressured into doing anything.
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>>74790236
>world class
>goes invisible against big teams
:^)
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>>74790223
Ozil is good, you just need good players around him to bring out the best in him. when he has to break the chances created in a season record to drag 16 goals out of Giroud its like you bought a V8 engine for a car that has the transmission of a trabant.
>Yes, exactly my point. English players are generally shit, Spanish players aren't.
arsenal dont even have that many english players, atletico have like 4 spanish players in a squad of 25.
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Is ty a real person or is he made up?
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>>74790288
There's a Sky Sports interview of him from 2004.
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Leave Wenger alone cunts
Undefeated Season
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>>74790374
>Being this cucked
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>>74784671
Oh you dumb frog
You're gonna get yourself fired
Is that how you want this to end?
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They can't sack Wnger. He's literally a legend in the club.

WENGER IN
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>go to a sports news site
>any news about Arsene
>Wenger IN comment
>check the profile
>doesn't support Arsenal
Every time.
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>>74789743
Newcastle are one of the richest clubs in England, it`s why they are shooting back up into the Premier league.
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>>74784671
LEL
E
L

there will be actual suicides over this
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I'M NOT FUCKING LEAVING

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ogGKhHf8DM
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>>74790658
Holy kek
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>>74790601
It's because there's fuck all else to do in Newcastle. BIggest mistake I ever made was to go there for uni; literally nothing to do and you're completely cut-off from the real world. It's like Leipzig but even shitter
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>>74790658
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>Board to gutless to fire an incompetent manager
>Manager to gutless to motive players
>Players to gutless to show their worth

Arsenal, please never change.
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>>74790731
>to instead of too 3 times in a row
fugg
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>>74790447
dont usually see this flag. On your holidays, lad?
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>>74790710
Leipzig is a great city. You're just a shut-in autist.
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He seems to be taking it well!

https://twitter.com/MrDtAFC
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HEH... HAHA

PFHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I'm gonna laugh all week. Based Wonga.

Robbie is already rubbing his hands.
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>>74789782
>how do we save arsenal?
>convince barcelona to sacrifice one season and sign Wenger
yeah, but how do we convince Barcelona to do that?
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Someone should make a documentary on Wenger.

>My time with Arsene has come to an end.
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>>74791058
Swap Messi for Wenger.
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>>74791208
THE ONLY THING ITS TIME FOR IS WONGA TO GO

DO NOT DELAY THIS ANY FURTHER

ITS TIME TO GO

WHAT PART OF THAT DONT YOU UNDERSTAND WONGA
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ITS TIME TO GO
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WENGER IN
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>>74788642
>>74788573
Odd thing is though when you look at Arsenal's total wage spend they spend exactly like you would expect a team in the top 4 to spend. They cap their highest players' salary quite low but their low earners earn quite a lot (considering their talent.) Most teams pay according to talent, but Wenger has always paid in accordance to what everyone else is getting, so the shitters earn a shitload, thats why you get so many guys just being loaned out because no team will fully take on the full wage, and Arsenal would rather farm the wage out and hope someone performs elsewhere and commits to paying the full wage.

Guys like Ozil and Sanchez make just a bit more than guys like Ramsey and Walcott, and yeah you can put context into the Brits's contracts and try to justify that (Ramsey's last extention was after his God Mode season and Walcott has been there for a while.) there's no way their wages should be close. Say what you want about Ozil and Sanchez being kicked out of their previous clubs, but they coulda earned way more elsewhere, and even at Arsenal, they have proven they are worth naming their price.

Wenger's squad building strategy is fucked, his tactics are fucked, he can't motivate his players, he's just not fucking capable of doing anything anymore, but we all knew this years ago, yet here we are. JUST.
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>>74791495
He's literally a commie, that's why
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>>74789775
>give Wenger the funds
He spent more on Xhaka than Chelsea did on Kante. He spends when he thinks its best, problem is he won't spend more than he thinks he should, so he didn't spend that extra 5 million on Kante, or that time Arsenal missed out on Xabi Alonso, or the Suarez bid.
>Arsenal just have shit depth and their 1st team isn't top 4 quality.
And that's the manager's fault. Funny thing he actually went out and replaced all the broken toys he used to keep around with notsobroken ones, and quality wise this is the best squad he's had since the Invincibles (and that squad was thin as fuck.) The problem is a bit more connected to this.
>They have ONE world class star
The thing is its not so much on Sanchez or Ozil, its the fact that he has a perfect starting XI and the players who come into that system aren't capable of not so much replacing the players quality wise, they just don't do the same things and play differently. Cazorla is the only midfielder have capable of carrying the ball from deep and dribbling out of pressure (except for Wilshere, who got shipped out.) So the moment he's out you now have NO ONE capable of doing it and you're fitting square pegs in there ( Ramsey's better off the ball, Xhaka is immobile and just passes well, Coquelin is useless in the offensive phases, El Neny is not a dribbler. Funnily enough the best CM they have is Ox, who's best feature is his dribbling.) A smarter manager would change the system to counter the missing cogs but Wenger just keeps doing the same shit, and the players, who aren't that bad, are being forced to play in a system that just doesn't suit them.
>Along with that, they need to sign someone with a bit of mongrel in him
This mentality starts from the top. You need an enviroment that allows guys like that to be like that, Arsene inherited some of those guys, brought in guys who would fit in and it worked, but since the Fabregas era he has had squads full of softies.
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>>74790153
To be fair, they've played buyern so many times, they should know how to play them by now. Or at least not roll over and get btfo 10-2. They should at least be able to keep the score respectable. Instead they've gotten worse.
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>arsenal manager arsene wenger
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>>74789768

Voltorb

>>74790172

Electrode
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Good for him, I believe he can turn it around
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the problem with arsenal is that they always try to walk it in
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Enough is enough. Every year the same shit! ITS TIME TO GO!
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He won you a fucking league and CL, have some respect and patience, arsecunts
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>>74792819

>He won a CL

No he didn't. He was runner up in 2006. Though I will say that I believe the players are the ones that are doing this to get hi kicked out. Like the Leicester City players.
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>>74790710
I'm glad that someone else thinks Newcastle is boring. I went there for uni and everyone was always buzzing about it, and yeah the nightlife is good, but outside of nights out there's fuck all to do there compared to similar cities.
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ARSEne waiting to retire like this
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>>74784671
WANGER STAY
ANOTHER YEAR OF ARSELEL
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IT'S TIME TO GO
DO NOT DELAY ANY FURTHER
IT'S TIME TO GO

TAKE TY TOO
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Anyone else think it's Kinda odd that the club is called arsenal, and the manager is called arsene?

I mean you take away the e, and then add al. It's crazy
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>Arsenal
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seeing Wenger show up each year is like seeing Rooney captaining England (let alone representing them) in the Euro or WC; as someone who relishes in the Shadenfreude of each team, there is no better sight to see. Even Wenger signed the players he should, they'd be sitting on the sidelines resting for the FA cup and Sunderland away while the latest crop of young meme players get facefucked 5-0 at the Emirates.
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>>74790710
Imagine going all the way from Newcastle to Brighton and fucking losing
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>>74794042
Yeah, is Arsene even a name? Who else is named Arsene?
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>>74794226
>>74794042
Plus, Arsene talks out of his arse and London is the arsehole of the world.

What does it all mean?
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>>74794226
I've never seen the name again. Only him.

It's too strange
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>>74791597
Bidding 1 pound for Suarez was beyond insulting. Fuck me i've bid more than that for second shit on eBay
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>>74794226
Arsene Lupin, a famous fictional thief from the early 20th century (no, not making this up)
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=2k0SmqbBIpQ
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WONGA DID NOTHING WRONG
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le get 4th place, win fa cup sometimes and always finish above Tottenham man
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HE HAS TO GO WOOBIE
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>>74786015
>grauniad
>reputable
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>>74797444
not this year
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>>74792819
>Korean footy knowledge
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>>74789841

Holy shit how applicable
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>>74793925
He never fucking will. Sir Alex did great things for united. Arsene had one good season in the invincibles and has done fuck all but ruin the team since then.
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Arsenal's performances should improve now that they players know they can't get rid of him, no matter how shitty they play.
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>>74789809
The Bunglels coach.
Manages to get in playoffs regularly but then never wins a po match
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>>74789775
>All the people with banners should just tell the board to give Wenger the funds. Just give him the funds to buy some superstars.
arsenal's team cost more than bayern's

explain that you faggot
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>>74784671
HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!!! HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!
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is it really wengers fault that walcott, oxlade-chamberlain and giroud turned out to be shit?
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>>74790172
Leicester must have gotten at least 20 points alone from refball.
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How asshurt is Claude and DT gonna be when he signs a new contract and they lose a game?
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>>74802950
Claude will become a spurs fan
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>>74794217

I can't imagine m8
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>>74789831
>Leicester
Stopped reading right here, senpai.
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>>74793855
wait what else would you need besides nightlife?

don't you shitpost on /sp/ all day like the rest of us?
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>>74794042
Arsene is Arsenal.
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>>74791638
More like Buyern have learned how to wreck Arselel harder and harder every time they meet.
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>>74787646
>play his system to a tee
Fucking system babby memeagers like Poop, Wonga Klopp are overrated. Managers like Ferguson, Ancellotti and Conte who build different types of teams depending on the players they have are GOAT.
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>>74794226
>>74796327
It's a French masculine name. He's French in case you forgot.
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>>74802256
yes
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Did you support Arsenal before the accident?
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>>74789797
underrated
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Only obvious retards think Wenger is the number one problem.

The board and the owners are the problem. You think Wenger wouldn't get sacked if he was failing to meet the objectives they set out for him, every fucking year? The owners are cancer, they don't give a fuck about the club, the fans, the youth, the history not a fucking thing. They have a 60k stadium and sponsors that are making them money for their own pockets year on year. I don't think they'd sack Wenger unless he got the team relegated? Whats the point, moron fans will keep paying retarded ticket prices over and over and over again, they'll still buy their kids shirts and merchandise, sponsors will still line up to put their name on the shirts everyone is buying. They don't give a flying fuck. Even if Wenger did go, are they going to bring in someone who is going to suck you all off and buy the expensive players you want? Or are they going to bring in someone they know will just keep the club running and making money?

Stop bullying an old man who's out of touch but THINKS hes doing the right thing, and start making the club lose money. The only way to make Arsenal great again is to burn it to the ground and start again, the owners aren't leaving until theres nothing left to make money off.
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>>74789797
KEK
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>>74803683
sure but while wenger remains people wont know that. he keeps wenger because hes a scapegoat, and when wenger leaves and its still the same old shit he is gonna be fucked. wenger needs to go because hes a yes man who always defends kroenke, and itll make the fans realise kroenke is the cancer
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>>74803683
>The board and the owners are the problem
They don't take more out of the club than Abramovich takes out of Chelsea.
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>>74803708
The scapegoating is just pathetic though. People think managers are everything they haven't got a clue. I think Arsenal would go through 3 or 4 managers in the 5 year spell after AW and the retard fans still wouldn't get it.
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>>74803745
But Abramovich has a passion for the club, he attends games he cares if the club wins. Kroenke does not give a flying fuck its just one of the companies he runs. Look at the Nuggets, the Avalanche etc do those teams ever win? Does he give a fuck? No he has one arena for 3 franchises all the merch under one roof, basically gets tickets paid all year round with the costs of just one facility. Kroenke doesn't build winning teams he builds money.

If Conte tells Abramovich he needs to spend 40 mil Roman considers it. If Wenger needs to spend 40 mil Kroenke asks if theres cheaper ways of doing it.
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>>74803800
Who cares if he has a passion or not? The money is there, that's all that matters. The owner getting really excited about his team winning doesn't make a difference.

>If Conte tells Abramovich he needs to spend 40 mil Roman considers it. If Wenger needs to spend 40 mil Kroenke asks if theres cheaper ways of doing it.
Any other insights about what goes on behind closed doors at these clubs? Arsenal's net spend is greater than Chelsea's in the past 5 seasons.
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>>74803745
abramovic made chelsea relevant and is now buying them a new stadium
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ITS TOIME TO GO
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>>74803683
is it the owners fault that Arsenal have a ridiculous number of injuries every single fucking year and are clueless about what is causing it? is it their fault that the squad has more holes in it than a fucking sieve, holes that Wenger blatantly ignore every window to sign a fucking passing midfielder again and that the players mentally collapse at the same point every single fucking season? is it their fault that Wenger waited for 7 years to properly replace Lehmann? whos fucking fault is it that every fucking summer the owners say they have over a hundred million to spend only to buy some fucking french black teenager for 400% his market value who will never amount to anything? is it the owners fault that Wenger someone fucks up his tactics every other game and gets outsmarted by every manager who's not borderline retarded?

owners are at fault, but for keeping Wenger. every single thing wrong with the club can be traced back directly to Wenger.
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>>74803857
>new stadium
Fair enough. But look at Everton or Tottenham: who's going to pay for their stadium? You can't expect and owner to be a benefactor. It's generous if they are but it's not an obligation. The same proportion of profits that Arsenal make go into the club as at any other club. What exactly has Kroenke that is so indifferent? Or suggests that he is indifferent?
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>>74803844
>net spend

Thats simply down to the fact that the players Arsenal bring in aren't good enough to sell for any profit. Chelsea buy big and sell big, they also do very well off the loan deals they make. Arsenal don't invest enough in players to be profitable on the transfer market.

>>74803907
Everton and Tottenham both have notoriously frugal owners.
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honestly I hope Wenger stays until he is physically incapable of coaching a team, the shitposting on here and in soccer media at large is massively entertaining. It's funny how the worst case scenario for Arsenal is that they take the FA cup and he gets to crater the morale and Premier League finishes even lower.
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>>74803937
My point about net spend is to highlight what goes out of the club. It's greater than Chelsea, in other words, more is going out.

>Everton and Tottenham both have notoriously frugal owners
Notorious is talking about their reputation, not about what they actually are.
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>>74803990
It's getting boring now. Every just expect them to fail. You need new hope so it can be dashed anew.
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now there is some guy who's bashing chelsea for not spending enough and somehow implying that arsenal is bigger club because of that...
I have seen it all...
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>>74803683
Wenger is the biggest problem. The majority of Arsenal's problems can be traced back to him. He overplays particular players which leads to them getting injured. His management approach means that he generally lets players learn from their own mistakes, which is fine when you've got driven players but not when you have a team of lazy millionaires who are okay with not winning anything. His defensive tactics are pretty much non-existent, which makes every team that plays Arsenal very dangerous whenever they get into their half. He gives up on trying to sign promising players whenever a bigger club enters the bid, meaning that he ends up signing rejects and over-hyped players that no-one else is even interested in. He pretty much always uses his substitutes late in the game rather than taking off a player who clearly isn't on his best day. He also likes to play favourites when it comes to team selection. Once you've been chosen by Wenger, it's almost impossible to get dropped even if you're in a terrible run of form.

That's not to say that the board are faultless. The reason Wenger has stayed so long is because the board are fine with mediocrity as long as they get paid for it. But Wenger does need to leave the club. He was probably their best option when they were moving stadium, since he could run the club and achieve decent results on a relatively low budget. But Arsenal have been able to spend big ever since around 2013 (when they doubled the club's record transfer fee for Ozil). They should be competing for the title again, but they've only gotten worse. Last year was proof that he can never win the PL. Every other big team inexplicably collapsed and he still finished second behind Leicester fucking City (and it would have been third if Tottenham didn't pull off one of the biggest collapses since Liverpool in 2014). And now the other PL teams have only gotten stronger, particularly City, Spurs and Liverpool.
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I won't be getting my hopes up until it's BBC official
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RANIERI IN
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>>74790749
>this new
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>>74796245
He bid 40 million and 1 pound, gobshite
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>>74790223
Ozil was a complete surprise you nigger
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>>74791208
yes please
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>>74791495
disgust
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>>74791495
Mustafi 90k
Koscielny 75k
Debuchy 70k
Monreal 65k
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>>74804932
Gibbs 60k a week
what the fuck wenger
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Ozil Alexis -> 140
Theo Ramsey -> 110
Cech Giourd -> 100

no wonder they are ready to leave
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