/nfl/ general - FREE AGENCY edition

>>74728667
Pats 19-0

>>74728681
*18-1

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>>74728681
good post desu

>>74728667
Marshawn on the raiders would be dope as fuck. He's a bay area native. And they'll actually feed him in the red zone like Murray last year.

Anyone who wants AP on their team doesn't fucking pay attention and is a casual to be ignored

Adrian Peterson on my favorite football team (Lions) would be a great fit if it was for the right price.

>>74728767
I kind of want him to sign to the packers desu
AD to GB after Favre went to the vikings
poetic

>>74728767
>>74728788
pottery

>>74728788
you have proven time after time to know nothing about football

stop posting

>>74728667
Since the nanners are attempting to build a Seahawks style 4-3 would they be a good trade partner for Sherman? Would the fan base accept this?

>>74728767

I want peterson on muh team.

But I am not a casual, I'm just a retard.

>>74728788
How so? He doesn't pass block, he's not a backfield receiver, he still has a fumbling problem, and he's over 30 with about 2500 career carries. Great way to get Stafford killed.

Canadian Lions fan is muh favorite poster

>>74728767
>only effective in a formation with declining popularity
>cant catch passes
>below average in pass protection
>injury prone
>32 years old
>wants to be paid
>needs 20 carries to "get into a rhythm"
>tons of mileage
>fumbles a ton

whats there not to like?

Vikings miracle home superbowl win

there are people
in this thread
right now
who actually think
the packers won't win the NFC north

>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/15/criticism-from-ricky-jean-francois-may-have-contributed-to-his-release/

>Washington abruptly dumped veteran defensive lineman Ricky Jean-Francois on Wednesday. The move immediately triggered suspicion that Jean-Francois has paid the price for being candid about his recent criticisms of the team.

>Per a source with knowledge of the situation, Jean-Francois was surprised by the move. Indeed, he started every game for Washington last year, and he performed well.

>Via Mike Jones of the Washington Post, the move had nothing to do with clearing cap space for a potential run at free-agent defensive linemen Jonathan Hankins or Dontari Poe.

>R****** Front Office

>>74728914
Just when I thought Washington ceased to be a dysfunctional shitshow of an organization, Dan Snyder reappears to correct that

>>74728839
Yeah but he can bring those intangibles and work ethic to the team. Veteran leadership is very important especially with the young running backs on the team. Not 25 carries a game but a good amount behind a sturdy offensive line would be good to see him at the end of his career.

>>74728939
>Veteran leadership is very important especially with the young running backs on the team.
but that's bullshit breh. RB is not a position that you need to learn from the older guys, you just plug them in and run them behind your line. Zeke didn't need no veteran leadership, neither did Todd Gurley, nor did David Johnson or Le'Veon Bell.

>>74729043
this, running back is the simplest position on the field. veteran leadership is helpful for WRs or OL, and especially for QBs, but you don't need a veteran to tell you how to be an RB.

>>74729043
No I meant to say that if he were to come he would gain more knowledge just by being in the presence of one of the best RBs in the league (Zachary Zenner). Also Ezekiel Elliott gets to talk to Emmitt Smith, Todd Gurley gets to talk to Eric Dickerson, David Johnson can talk to Chris Johnson, and Le'Veon Bell can talk to Jerome Bettis, so if Adrian got to sit and pick Zenner's brain it could be great for his future.

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>>74728939
>>74729043
and if you really want that veteran leadership, Jamaal Charles is a far superior option
1) younger
2) just barely over half as many career carries
3) actually has the skills to play the 3rd down role he'll need to play at this stage of his career
4) guaranteed to be cheaper
5) just as strong of a work ethic
6) doesn't fumble nearly as much
7) a better fit overall for the Lions offense
8) never beat his kid(s)

seems like a no brainer to me

>>74729174
>canadians

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>>74729174
>Also Ezekiel Elliott gets to talk to Emmitt Smith
like that matters when nobody can understand what the fuck that mushmouth Emmitt is saying ever

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>Based Carr
>top tier offensive line
>Beast Mode rotating with Richard and Washington
>Patterson stretching the field vertically
>Jared Cook stretching the middle of the field
>allowing Cooper and Crabtree to get open
>mfw

Realistically, who can stop this offense?

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>>74729236
>Patterson stretching the field vertically
spotted the casual

>>74729236
all that until carr hurts his pinkie again and connor cuck takes over again

>>74729265
maybe he means on the kickoffs

>>74729268
Except he played through the hand injury nigger.

>>74726461
they'll need to trade way more than 32

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>>74729177
Mr. Charles hasn't seemed to show any interest in the organization though so that's why I haven't brought him up in the discussion.

That would be very intriguing though, but maybe he still has bad memories from Ford Field.

>>74729265
Yeah I feel like people don't realize he's basically only a return man.

Why the fuck do we need someone to stretch the field when we have Amari fucking Cooper.

What we need is a slot receiver more than anything.

>People still respond to the fucking leaf
literally worse than responding to trips

>>74729305
Considering the season Charles had the year after that happened, I'm sure he's over it

>>74729314
Yeah the dude is fast but doesn't really have a burst, it's like it takes him a good half minute to get to full speed. plus he can't run routes or catch. didn't you guys learn your lesson from DHB?

>>74729076
DE is more simple

>>74729337
Potentially

>>74729380
Yes.

That's why we drafted the best receiver available who was a blue chip and had no question marks.

Patterson is just here to return kicks. That's all.

>>74729404
You got it backwards breh, DE is simple but RB moreso

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>>74729413
>mfw J.J. Nelson is a frequent kick returner but he's built like a starving bird skeleton wrapped in electrical tape

>>74729444
Literally all a DE has to do is contain the outside
A RB is not just "give me ball. I run with ball" you have to know which hole to run through, there's things like counter plays, you have to have the footwork down and receive the handoff, plus pass protection and route running.

Hey fellow 4channies I made an NFL meme subreddit we can all use as a home base for top of the line keks :)

>>74728793
This would be kino

>when your secondary and oline are garbage but everyone is mocking a QB to you in the first round because you wont sign cutler or romo yet.

Being toxins is suffer.

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Did Ty Montgomery change his number?

>>74729576
>wanting int man or glass bones
you're right, must be rough

>>74729584
nope
88 senpai

>>74729607
It beats drafting any of this years QBs in the first round.

I wouldnt mind Mahomes in the 2cd or Kaaya in the 4th, but 1st is too high. Especially in a draft this loaded at CB.

>>74729479
>Literally all a DE has to do is contain the outside
I was about to call you a disgusting casual but then I noticed your flag

>>74729635
I love players with weird numbers. Devin Hester had one of the best

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Where's that dude who was spamming Kirk Cousins in the thread the other day?

It was St Paddy's day here in NZ yesterday. Took this bird home last night and while I was fucking her kept saying "You like that?"

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What did he mean by this?

>>74729584
fingol best gol

>>74729661
why lie online?

>>74729290
oh yeah that amazing performance against the chiefs, how could we even forget

>>74729661
>I-I had sex guys!!! Haha it was s-so fun and cool!! Kirk cousins!!!!!
This is sad bruh, even for you

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>>74729710
Even ugly cunts can get laid on St paddys day friend. Go bar crawling tonight you'll thank me

>>74729728
Maybe not this ugly though

>>74729751
>IM NOT A VIRGIN GUYS! I SWEAR!!! ANYONE CAN GET LAID!!!!!!
The fact that you felt the need to brag to your internet friends is telling ;)

>>74729751
i kind of agree with the leaf, this is a little sad

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So /nfl/ what do you think of the Marshawn Lynch buzz, yay or nay. That Raiders Offense would be a monster no doubt.

>>74730049
>>74729236

>>74730049
He's an Oakland native and used to spend a lot of time there doing charity work and stuff while with the Seahawks

I could definitely see it happening but he would have to be released or traded by the Seahawks apparently

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How many years until the Lions go to the Super Bowl, boys?

Stafford, Prater, Jones, the new O-line, Abdullah, pic related...I'm thinking two or three years.

>>74730049
>>74730110
>>74730061
Jordan SchultzVerified account @Schultz_Report 2h2 hours ago

>Source: Marshawn Lynch met w/Pete Carroll+Schneider yesterday and asked to be released. Privately (w/friends) has been wearing #Raiders gear

If Malcolm Butler stays with the Pats 19-0 is a lock.

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sam bradford

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>Patriots are favored to repeat

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>>74730243

>>74730049

He should sign with the Patriots instead desu

>>74729236
AFCW D lines and that's about it

>>74729236
Your secondary is still ass though.

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>Richard Sherman to visit with the Patriots

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>pats sign AD for the minimum and marshawn lynch to a 1 year deal after giving up a conditional 7th to the seahawks

Seahawks are not going to give away Lynch for free.

Rex Burkhead will rush for 1,000 yards next year.

>Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter

>Jason Pierre-Paul signed a four-year deal that @JordanRaanan reports will pay him $62 million, including $40 million guaranteed.

>>74730306
why

>>74730281
why

the 3 rbs the pats have are better than both of those washed up has beens.

well maybe not marshawn but lord knows if he has anything left

>>74730284
When he signed that extension before 2015 got a lot of money guaranteed and when he first retired they never asked for him to give back a portion of the signing bonus as a gesture of goodwill

I could see them releasing him but I could also see them wanting compensation because of it

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How would this make you feel?

>>74728914
>DE part of the worst run stopping defense in the organizations history
>Cap hit at 4-5 Million
>Talks shit about organization

Business wise it was a solid move. Football wise it doesn't hurt them at all since he was mediocre at best. If Scot fired him it would have been overlooked completely

>>74730429
Gay.

>>74730452
Too bad SNIDEr has run out of benefits of doubt.

>>74729661
>>74729751
I thought you were married?

the washington racial slurs are not a good football team

>>74730508
He's a pathological liar
I'm sure he told you he has a 7 figure salary and fucks 12 models a week too

>>74730571
and hes a ravens fan thats the worst part

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what exactly did marquette king mean by this?

>>74730586
JFFM is probably more of a Giants fan than a Ravens fan

>>74730639
not much better honestly

>>74730639
He watches redzone more than anything

>>74730639
He's also a fan of two teams
I'm so disgusted by him

>>74730729
im disgusted by your forehead

>>74730743
Take the proxy off JFFM

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draft needs to hurry up t b h

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>>74729479
>Literally all a DE has to do is contain the outside
You are worse than Americans talking about soccer

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>still over a month to go until the Draft

Ugh.

>>74730253

>gnats
>making the playoffs

Pick one muchacho

>Lynch asked Carroll and Schneider for his release
HAPPENING

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>>74730049
I'd be ok with it, but only if the Raiders give the hawks something worthwhile in return.

this isn't a charity.

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>it's a Patriots catbus to the Superbowl episode

Why does the AFC have to be a joke
why do you let the patriots to the owl every fucking year
fuck

>>74731568
why does the NFC lose to the patriots every year?

>>74730261
Fuck the Patriots

>>74731534
You get not having him burn a $9 million hole in your pockets when he unretires.

Cowpies vs Broncos Soup bowl

cap it.

Lets be honest. WIll the cowboys be able to cover ANYONE?

>>74731737
Don't you know the cowboys won 15 games because of their offense not their defense you silly goose

>>74729694
I dont understand the context

>>74731733
Buncos will finish last in the AFC Wedt this season. Their defense will regress hard without Wade or Ware and their offense will still be shit.

>>74731822
not if they sign tony homo. and let's be honest, the chargers are garbage

>>74731835
They won't.

>>74731805

People rumor Marshawn is joining the Raiders. Bruce irvin plays for the raiders

Posting him in a pic: TOTALLY CONFIRMED SIGNING!!!!!!!!!!!!

Joey Bosa :3

>>74731869
But then why is Sherman there? Really makes you think.

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anybody gonna watch the fights tonight? boxing has been a good offseason coping mechanism for me. I mean GGG and Canelo are still dancing around eachother but compared to 2016 this year is ten times better.

>chocolatito vs some thai guy
>Mayweather may actually fight Mcgregor
god. damn.

vikings signed latavius murray
>but why?

I feel like the chargers have the potential to be real good

Will they be? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Another decent draft like last year and they'll be rising

>>74731893
please take your blog somewhere else

>>74731951
It helps when 8 of your 10 best players arent dead for the season by week 3
Although only 3 teams max in a division can be good at once, so they probably still have to wait 2-3 years to come back. But then Rivers will be gone by then

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>>74731952
bro if you dont follow other sports its fine. im just a boxing fan.
vikings dont have a 1st rounder this year. need something to focus on.

>>74732014

I feel like they could peak the Broncos, if they're healthy

Seriously zero expectations for them though, especially with a new head coach

Literally can't get any worse lel

>>74732052
there are literally threads about people punching eachother if that's what you want to talk about.
like I get it, I wouldn't want to talk football if I was a vikings fan either but nobody gives a shit about your side sports here

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this man seems like a cool dude

>>74732232
He's a garbage back
Runs upright and soft
Doesn't use his size and get behind his pads to drive anyone
One of the most overrated rbs in the league senpai

>>74731951
It's the same story for them every year
They're a talented roster and rivers is the most underrated qb in the NFL
But injuries keep decimating the team
If they hit on their first 3 rounds this year I think they could hit the playoffs
It looks like the afcw might send 3 with the broncos staying home from the playoffs

>>74732262
looks like he has improved on that, especially last year

he's fairly cheap and will improve the vikings rungame which cant get any worse

>>74732262
You don't even need to say this. Look at his stats behind the best line in the league kek.

>>74730630
Does King play dark souls?????

>>74732323
>Improved on that
He didn't, I have been holding out hope that he would be good since he got drafted
He's disappointed every single year
>Vikings run game can't get worse
Although this is true he can't hurt it
But in a draft year where there are literally 20+ running backs that can make serious day 1 impacts he still might be overpayed...

>>74732349
In his defense that o line was built to pass block
But that doesn't mean they weren't all quality run blockers either
I have been disappointed by LatMurray too many times to have any faith in him

>>74732323
I just looked at the contract
$5mil/year is not cheap
You guys way overpaid for him

Rex Burkhead for 3.5 was p good imo. Bill loves his multi faceted players.

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>Brock memes the Browns to the playoffs
>Beat the Texans in the WC
>Beat the Broncos in the AFCDG
>Beat the Patriots in the AFCCG
>Beat the 49ers in the SB

yfw

>>74732402
>Vikings RB Latavius Murray's three-year, $15 million deal only has $4.25 million in Year 1. Minnesota has to make a call on him next March.

that's a good deal

>>74732445

They'll be starting Johnny Manziel halfway through the season

>>74732445
I believe

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Which team will trade for him

>>74732542
Browns.

>>74732542
Raiders
Give Seahawks a 2nd round, 4th and 6th

2 for how many years he will play with raiders.
4 because of carr
And 6 because he'll pick 6 these 6s

>>74732542
Why would Shitattle trade Sherman?

>>74732542
I'm at liberty to offer a sloppy blumpkin from TT himself

>>74732577
>Raiders
>With Mack and Carr's contracts coming up

Really makes me think?

>>74732582
Also this.

Philip Rivers in the first 8 games of 2014, 2015 and 2016: 67% completions, 302 yards/game, 7.95 yards/attempt, 5.8 TD%, 2.0 INT%, 101.7 passer rating

Rivers in the last 8 games of 2014, 2015 and 2016: 61.8% completions, 259 yards/game, 6.9 yards/attempt, 4.4 TD%, 3.7 INT% 81.2 passer rating

is this because of injuries?

>>74732577
>implying the hawks will let him go for anything less than two 1st round picks

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>>74732542
It's really weird looking at him in the old, better uniforms

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>>74732610
thanks for antizing it

>>74732600
Draft picks cost money

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>>74732610
those were shit

the only good seahawks uniforms were the original uniforms

t. 12

>>74732629
no kidding. It's still 76-01>02-11>12-present

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>>74732649
pretty much

I appreciate that the seahawks tried something different with the current uniforms, but they just don't hold a candle to the classics.

also, the retro hawk is a GOAT logo. so much better than the extreme nike bullshit.

>>74732603

Definitely makes a difference

Usually he gets pretty beat up because of his shit o line, too

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>>74732669
I know that feeling. While I do like the current uniforms, especially since they stopped making the green metallic, they just don't hold a candle to the Buddy uniforms

>>74732710
Kelly green is criminally underused in sports these days

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>>74732736
I'd love to go back to it, but one half of the ownership hates it with a passion.

>>74730810
Who made this art

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Fuck man these looked great. I would love to go to these full time

>>74729190

Crazy to think Brady came back from worse in a Super Bowl and won.

>>74732489
Ah nvm
That's not terrible
But still more expensive than a 5th round draft pick

>>74732820
There's no way the new colours and new logo of the Eagles are better than the old alternatives.

Same with the Pats.
Same with the Bucs and they're dumb digital clock shit instead of based orange unis.

I wish the logos and shit weren;t all based on marketing and too make the logo have more brand recognition.

>Congress investigating painkillers in the NFL
Dead sport walking :(

1. Myles Garrett, DE, Browns
2. Deshaun Watson, QB, Redskins (trade with 49ers)
3. Solomon Thomas, DE, Bears
4. Jamal Adams, S, Jaguars
5. Jonathan Allen, DT, Titans
6. Marshon Lattimore, CB, Jets
7. Malik Hooker, S, Chargers
8. Leonard Fournette, RB, Panthers
9. Reuben Foster, LB, Bengals
10. Mike Williams, WR, Bills
11. Derek Barnett, DE, Saints
12. Mitchell Trubisky, QB, Browns
13. Corey Davis, WR, Cardinals
14. John Ross, WR, Titans (trade with Eagles)
15. Ryan Ramczyk, OT, Colts
16. Haason Reddick, LB, Ravens
17. OJ Howard, TE, 49ers
18. Christian McCaffrey, RB, Eagles
19. Dalvin Cook, RB, Buccaneers
20. Forrest Lamp, OG, Broncos
21. Taco Charlton, DE, Lions
22. Zach Cunningham, LB, Dolphins
23. Garret Bolles, OT, Giants
24. Quincy Wilson, CB, Raiders
25. Cam Robinson, OT, Texans
26. David Njoku, TE, Seahawks
27. Deshaun Watson, QB, Chiefs
28. Jabrill Peppers, DB/LB, Cowboys
29. Tre'davious White, DB, Packers
30. Takkarist McKinley, OLB, Steelers
31. Malik McDowell, DT, Falcons
32. TJ Watt, DE, Patriots (trade with Saints)

Is Brady an elite QB like Rodgers or Roethlisberger?

>74732979
not even going to give you a you

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>>74729236
Literally nobody

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>>74732971
>26. David Njoku, TE, Seahawks

>>74732979
nah, he will never live up to bledsoe

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>ay yo deez niggaz aint neva seen nuffin like dis cuz
>b-but, that's Tom Brady tho...
>fuk dat old ass cracka, we finna drop 40 on dey ass

>>74729236
connor cooke

plz no

Any other Raiders fans hoping we don't get Lynch or Petterson or any big name RB because the offense is a lot scarier when it's just carr slinging it 70% of the time?

>>74732232

Pass protects well, and has good top speed for a larger back... just doesn't really run the ball all that well, which is kind of important.

And for an RB that weighs 230, he's pretty mild through contact.

But we liked him.

>>74732971
You have Watson being drafted twice.

God anyone else can't wait for stupid inbred beaner raidniggers to come crashing back to reality when their shit team goes 5-11
HATE filthy raidnigger faggots

>>74733424
can you chill with the racism. /sp/ is an inclusive board. all are welcome

>>74733424
As long as they have Carr healthy and that offensive line I can't see them being anything worse than a .500 team to be honest. That defense was a historical trash fire for most of the season and they were still competitive in every single game outside of the chiefs.

>>74733424
lmao

The Raiders have lost exactly nothing important in the offseason. Their schedule's getting harder, which might cost them a game. They're gonna go 11-5.

>>74733452

get the fuck outta here poo nanny

>>74733264
Sanu is dumb as fuck honestly at least Gabriel was being a bit smarter about the game Sanu is just all talk

>>74733359
Yep. Even though AP or Lynch would most likely receive team-friendly contracts, I would rather that money go to resigning Perry Riley and signing Gerald Hodges/Zach Brown. We can find a decent power-back in the mid to late-rounds of the draft. The defense needs to be mediocre at the very least if we want to make a Super Bowl run this year.

Somewhat unrelated, but it would be cool to see a lot of 2-TE sets with Cook and Walford this season. Walford was starting to play well towards the end of last season.

>>74733359
You underestimate the importance of the running game to the Raiders. If the raiders get Lynch for cheap, it will make the offense even harder fof defenses to predict than it was last year. I could live without the Raiders picking up Lynch, but I have a hard time finding reasons not to go for it. He'd bolster the backfield like no one else could.

>>74730272
They only like 20mil cap space right? If they really want to replace Butler they'll use the draft

>>74733359
Just think of how good Carr will be if defenses have to account for AP.

>>74732971
McCaffrey is a meme. If Fournette doesn't drop, I'd rather they trade out of the first and get a bunch of good corners.

>>74730272
>Implying that won't just be a massive roast of Richard Sherman by the pats staff.

>>74732971
Don't think the Raiders would pass up McDowell, not when the draft is so deep at corner

>>74733922
Defenses haven't had to do much to account for AP these days

>>74730508
I'm not married I went to NY last year with my partner but we weren't married and I broke it off last month

>>74732971
Why don't you mock Tim Williams or CB to us at 16? Ravens ain't drafting Reddick I can tell you that much

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>Cuckbois losing linemen due to the salary cap and they're letting go of players from their already-terrible defense
>Foreskins imploding
>Iggles rebuilding
>Re-signed JPP to go with Snacks, Vernon, Collins, Jackrabbit, DRC, and Apple
>Brandon Marshall giving Eli a huge target and Rhett Ellison providing an actual blocking TE
>Paul Perkins is the featured back now and he actually made up for poor run blocking with his shiftyness/genetics
>Eli showing he still had his autism powers despite poor blocking and even worse receiving
>Patriots looking like a serious threat to challenge for an undefeated season again

Try and stop us, fags.

>>74733991
Yea he's been injured for 2 years. If he's healthy and teams try to stack 8 in the box with Carr throwing it's a gg.

>>74734055
and he's going to miraculously stay healthy as he gets older?
keep dreaming
he couldn't run on the packers lately ffs
he's a liability

>>74734072
If you can sign him for 5-7 mil it's worth it. The dude is an athletic freak. He has another year or two on his body. You'd rather have Dindu Lynch who hasn't played in 2 years and sit on his ass eating Skittles or some rookie that's even riskier?

>>74734050
Let's be honest it all comes down to how the O line plays and wether fuckboi McAdoo keeps running his one formation offence

Brandon Marshall is a huge target though and still has a lot left. Don't let anyone tell you he's over the hill he's gonna have double digit TDs this year

>>74734050
>Eli showing he still had his autism powers despite poor blocking and even worse receiving

he's regressing hard

the reason the gnats have been hyper aggressive the last two offseasons because they know it's now or never. Enjoy the few years left of Eli and then it's back to qb hell for the giants.

>Ravens - Brandon Carr 8mil/yr for 4 years
wow lol. He stays healthy, but that's too much for a healthy DB with average at best skills. Then again the FA market was thin on Corners this year wasn't it? Still though, team friendly options might have been the way to go

>Jets - Claiborne 5mil/yr for 1 year
This seems to be a "Prove it" type of deal. 5 mil is about the max I think Claiborne should have gotten and good on the Jets for only doing it 1 year. If he plays At least 15 games consider resigning him

>Buccs - JJ Wilcox 3mil/yr for 2 years
Good deal, that's about what he's worth

>Jags - Barry Church 6.5mil/yr for 4 years
out of all the secondary that left, Church was the only good one, and was one of the main guys I wanted resigned. Jags got him on a very good deal too, solid A signing for them.

Everyone acts as if all these players leaving is some huge blow to the Cowboys, as if the guys leaving were pro-bowlers or something. These same people were calling the Cowboys secondary complete ass before the season. Only pro-bowler on the defense is Sean Lee and he just got his contract restructured to help Cowboys in cap space. Morris Claiborne has been trying to "turn it up" for 3 seasons and has missed 33 out of a 80 games in his time in the league. Brandon Carr, who is a solid player and great in the locker room, isn't a playmaker and has had 1 interception in 3 years. JJ Wilcox was knoown for years to be that safety that could truck hard but always took bad angles and whiffed on tackles more often than not.

Cowboys already have a #1 and a #2 Corner in Scandrick and Brown who played phenomenal last year as a 6th round pick. Complete steal in the draft, and guess what, this Draft class is great for DBs.


tldr Jags signed the only player that really mattered on the Cowboys secondary

>ryan nassib

>>74731659

Better franchisees have tried.

>>74729584
Asian qt is best qt

>>74733264
link to this? couldn't find anything

>>74734151

Is trash. What else about him?

Did you see his preseason last year? Oh my God, he's fucking garbage.

>>74734169
just wondering what kind of reaction people have when they read his name

>>74734188

I attended and/or watched all of the Giants' preseason games last year and thank God Eli is some weird turtle man who doesn't get injured no matter how bad his O-Line protects him because Nassib legitimately looked like he did not belong in the NFL.

Watching him was just frustrating. I remember one play against the Patriots where he was under siege and he must've lost 15 yards or something because he held onto the ball trying to scramble away instead of just throwing it away.

I know some people are going to say "Are you fucking serious?" to the fact that we signed Geno Smith but I'd be WAY more comfortable with Smith since he's played more recently than Josh Johnson and has at least had some good games.

>>74734150
>Brandon Carr 8mil/yr

Dude It's 6 mil per year jesus we ain't giving a guy like Carr that much money. That said I'm more in favor of the deal after learning he was on AJ Green all game during the Cowboys-Bengals game in 2016 and held him to 1 catch 9 yards. That on top of playing the NFC North last year who we play this year I think he brings a lot of knowledge about our opponents and will obviously stay healthy where our other CBs haven't

also no guaranteed money past year 2 so It's essentially a 2 year. 12 Mil contract if he underperforms

>>74733359
I originally wanted a all defense FA but if we can get lynch I would not mind for a minute

oakland native ,long time raider fan , genuinely nice guy , and has at least a year in him left

I saw a guy wearing a Vince Papale jersey today.

>>74732971
>deshaun watson going to redskins and chiefs
Ok then

>>74734109
>>74734140
>3 Wr, 1 RB, 1 TE set all day every day
They have 2 play making wideouts on both sides and an emerging wide out that is going to be moved every where else and if Eli can chuck or sling it where it needs to be before he gets hit due to shit line then that can be a potent offense. Need an RB tho

I still think Cowboys have the best offense in that division though.

>>74730243
I've noticed a pattern.

>Patriots favored and seemingly unstoppable at start of the season
>40 player pile up of injuries
>O-line dies
>Doesn't win owl

>Patriots eerily quiet off season/early season
>Healthy into post season
>Win owl

We'll see famurai

>>74734002
The circle of lies keeps growing
This is unhealthy

>>74734221
>also no guaranteed money past year 2 so It's essentially a 2 year. 12 Mil contract if he underperforms
That's a lot better but anything over 5 mil is over paying IMO. Carr is good at sticking to possession receivers like AJ green but dont put him on anyone that can cut and run routes. If he can go back to playing like he did when we got him from KC then Ravens got the steal.

>>74734283
idk, in 2014 they were hyped because of the revis signing, Brady just played dog shit for a lot of the regular season so they werent as hyped.

>>74732232
He's pretty good.

>>74734283
They got a new strength coach for the 2016 season, which had a lot to do with winning the owl

>>74734310
>Tom Brady played like shit in 2014
Wanna know how I know you're retarded?

>Underplaying the Rex Burkhead signing

>>74734334
Not him but he did play bad until the Bengals game at least.

>>74729661
You're supposed to fuck women and not birds you sick fuck.

>>74734359
Do we even need to draft?

Malcolm, I'm sorry, bro.

>>74734361
>4 games is "most of the season"
Okay amigo

>>74734299
Yea I wasn't happy when I heard we signed him over Claiborne. I'd prefer his upside but I can see why the Ravens wanted Carr instead. I'm not gonna get my hopes up for him but at least it gives us a bit of leeway if we decide to wait on a CB in the draft

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>>74733359
That didn't work out too well against the Chiefs friendo.


>averaging over 6 yards a run
>Andy Reid using his Denny's Menu to get in Carr's head
>week after he broke his finger
>recievers dropping fucking everying
>LET'S THROW IT 50 TIMES

Don't let the door hit you on the way out Musgrat

>>74734389
I never said that, 3rd worlder. Also he played very subpar at least for his standards during 2013 and many people thought he's already declining. I remember people here on /sp/ actually thinking he'll retire before Peyton.

>>74734404
I just want carr to carry my fantasy team honestly

>>74734410
I quote
> "Brady just played dog shit for a lot of the regular season so they werent as hyped"

And 2013 was a year where he had literally no weapons, he lost gronk, Hernandez, welker, etc. He was throwing to late round rookies so obviously his numbers would take a hit.
His numbers weren't even that bad desu. He still hit 4K yards, but in the redzone he couldn't hit gronk which explains his low TD numbers.

>>74734449
It wasn't me who said that.

> he had literally no weapons
And he still doesn't, or at least not before he got Cooks. It's a miracle how well he can play with literal who subpar talent like Edelman and Amendola.

>>74734466
Eh, Edelman isn't bad at all, and Hogan really flashed
You're right though, it's definitely Brady that makes his receivers rather than the other way around

>>74734487
Hogan surprised me too now that you bring him up but yeah Edelman is pretty dogshit. Imagine him on any team that isn't the Pats, Packers or Saints (elite QBs), he would be completely forgettable.

Reminder that Brady is the only QB with a positive win record when throwing 50+ times at 18-9
Peyton is 4-13

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>>74734466
>Edelgod
>subpar

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>>74734443
Considering the new OC is his old QB coach and they upgraded at TE, I see Carr playing even better than last season.

>tfw even more heart attack bowls

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o5wnfGUrfo

>>74734520
>I'm a Jew: the post

>>74734532
Was a great game lad. Same as 2015

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>>74734537
Hold my beer

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so, now that we've established that every Pats WR is shit except for Brandin Cooks, is Malcolm Mitchell good or not? (protip: he is)

Carr is the single most overrated QB in history
You guys act like he's the next Brady but he has better weapons and is just a 65% accuracy reliable guy. Nothing more

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>>74734568
Shame the refs kept trying to fucking ruin it.

>>74734576
>just 65% comp.
there were sub-60 guys playing last year.

>>74734505
Bruh I think he'd start on most teams
>>74734574
He's good, but I'm scared that now he'll get 0 reps and flame out

>>74734576
Name a more promising QB 25 or under

>>74734651
Carson Wentz

>>74734651
Jammy Garopillow

>>74734576
>He became the first ever NFL quarterback with five game-winning touchdown passes in the fourth quarter or overtime in a season. He also set a franchise record with his sixth fourth-quarter comeback/game-winning drive this season.
>Raiders first winning season in 15 years
>Raiders first playoff berth in 15 years

Yeah he's just awful, fampire

>>74734664
this desu

>>74734651
two time super bowl champion Jimmy Garoppolo

>>74734576

>just 65

I hope you realize the lifetime completion percentage of every QB in the history of the sport only has 7 above 65%

I do not want to lose Butler.

>>74734699
Not for a 32nd, not for Sherman.

I want my buddy back.

>>74734576
Cooper is overrated prove me wrong

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>>74734651
Derek Carr

>>74734699
I thought you fags never question bellichick

>>74734699
if you take your heart out of it its much more efficient to get a CB in the draft who will be 75% as good as butler on a dirt cheap rookie contract, and gives the team flexibility for significant short term roster moves

this is why bill is the GOAT coach and GM he has no soul or empathy

>>74728914
>part of worst unit on worst defense in football
>publicly talk shit about your boss
>get fired
Really peanutbutters muh jelly

>>74734777
is it me or he doesnt get his second foot down

>>74734807
he gets the toe drag ftw

>>74734729
More accurate than saying Carr is

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>>74734714
You're not getting Sherman.

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>>74734807
for your viewing pleasure

>>74734847
I DON"T WANT HIM

I WANT MY BRO BACK

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>>74734729
He really is, drops way too many passes. I know that's all the Raiders WRs but Cooper's are always the most egregious.

>>74734852
This rule is so retarded

>one knee down spots the ball but two feet catches it

>>74734786
Much like Ras-I?

Richard Sherman is a Charger my sources close to the situation say. The Seahawks will receive a 2nd round pick next year and a 3rd this year as well as guard Orlando Franklin.

t. TheguywhostartedRiverstoTitansforMariota.

>>74734796
Just people pushing the dysfunctional narrative

Redskins are a mediocre team in a tough division. Whatever happens with Cousins happens but they've got a decent HC and some good pieces on both sides of the ball. They could be a lot worse off

>>74734909
Hell to the no is that happening.

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>>74734882

>>74734918
Jay Gruden is good at developing qbs but hes as bad as Sean Payton when it comes to defense, and doesn't make good adjustments either as games progress.

without cousins he's pretty much pointless as a HC unless they draft a rookie with promise

>>74734921
My sources are legit, friend.

>>74734957
name and link them.

>>74734882
His drop rate so much improved last season. His rookie year drops were absolutely a problem. Last season, not at all. He just drops big/easy passes it seems like.

>>74734975
A good journalist never reveals his source. Now explain why you dislike this trade?

>>74734944
Colt can go 8-8, 9-7 with this roster and staff.
The FO really needs to shit or get of the pot.

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>>74734905

And if only this guy would have stopped getting picked up by the police.

>>74735006
a good journalist is never afraid to reveal his sources.

>>74735006
Sherman would never go to a team not in SB contention. He was only go to
- Patriots
- Falcons
- Cowboys
- Packers

>>74735038

Wuddya the fucking Gestapo? The trade is an obvious fit. Use your bain.

>Sherman, Butler, Gilmore, McCourty

Would this be the best secondary in the league?

>>74735044
Why would he go to the Cowboys? They've only made the playoffs twice in the last 7 years they're hardly a Superbowl contender

>>74735060
nope. I like my Butler, thanx tho

>>74735044

>Falcons

That team will be lucky to make it to the wildcard.

>>74735060
yes, and you're going to the oven for not revealing your sources, jewfag.

>>74735068
A few seconds and a field goal away from getting to the conference. Assuming Elliot doesn't get suspended I would pick them to win the NFC

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>>74735029
>tfw Nebraska toast

>>74735091
Dumbass goyim. Butler isn't a Seahawk or Charger.

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>>74728932
why the hell would you ever think they are not dysfunctional?

>filthy casuals

>>74735068
Cowboys are better than the patriots at almost every position but tight end and corner.

>>74735065
>No Revis

>>74735121
>lose a chunk of their offensive line and half the defense

Sure thing buddy

>>74735121
No they were a "few seconds and a field goal" away from tying the game and sending it to overtime where they would have lost

Until they fix their secondary they will never make it to a Superbowl no matter how well they draft

What is this "Sherman is being traded" meme?

>>74735147
And QB
And D line
And Safety

>>74735174
Rookie QBs never make it.

Dak is scary cool. Best the NFC have to offer desu.

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>>74734901
I love rodgers

[NFC]
1} Packers
2} Seahawks
3} Buccaneers
4} Giants
5} Panthers
6} Eagles

[AFC]
1} Chiefs
2} Patriots
3} Ravens
4} Texans
5} Titans
6} Raiders

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>>74735147

>>74735068
I don't want him on the Cowboys but they closer to superbowl contender than a lot of other teams right now.

>>74735147
No


>>74735167
>a chunk of their defense line
They already had people that were taking over starting jobs on the line anyway
>half their defense
the half that left was the mediocre part of the defense though

>>74735197
Brady is carried by their offense
Cowboys had much more sacks

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>>74735320
>brady is carried by their offense

Is this bait?

>>74735207
Doesn't matter they had an average secondary last year and now they have a shit and inexperienced one. Jerry should have invested more money in the position group in FA but now he's relying on the draft despite having a gaping hole at SS and no depth at CB past Scandrick and Brown

>>74735270
Way too early but fuck it

>NFC
1. Seahawks
2. Packers
3. Giants
4. Saints
5. Cowboys
6. Rams

>AFC
1. Patriots
2. Texans
3. Chiefs
4. Steelers
5. Raiders
6. Titans

>>74735395
How is he not?

Hes statistically a bum against good teams and was carried by blount all year.

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>>74735411
>6. Rams

>>74735411

>Cowboys
>repeating last years "success"
oh i'm laffin

>>74728857
As a Vikings fan, this is spot fucking on.

>>74735411
>3. Chiefs
>4. Steelers

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>>74735416
Oh yes he is definitely carried by that super star offense of an ex college quarterback, a lacrosse player, the injured gronk and Legarret "run for a 2 yards td" blount

>>74735438
Their defence is gonna be a top 5 unit

>>74735457
Their offence will still carry them to the playoffs despite the questions I have about their defence. Their offensive personnel is 2nd only to the Patriots

>>74735476
Got some bad news for you my man, that offense had a nice one year run, defenses will figure them out this season.

I'll allow you to screencap this post.

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>>74735411
>NFC
1. Bucs
2. Seahawks
3. Giants
4. Lions
5. Falcons
6. 49ers

>AFC
1. Patriots
2. Raiders
3. Steelers
4. Titans
5. Chargers
6. Texans

Come and see

>>74735411
Rams are really bad and just got worse. Goff has shown nothing in his rookie season to suggest he is the guy, they have no depth literally anywhere, their best DB still hasn't been signed, their second best DB is coming up in trade talks and probably not sticking around, and a 35 year-old Andrew Whitworth is not going to be enough to patch up that awful o-line that Gurley couldn't run behind. They need a lot of things to go right for them for them to even think about 8-8, much less the playoffs

ayy just got some lucy
Happy Saint Patrick's day!

>sneks btfo

>>74734576
who the hell says he's next to Brady?
most sane people have him in the 5-10 range alongside Rothlisberger not Brady