/box/ - Gennadyevich Edition

is the GGG card the best in recent history?

>>74704729
yes

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>MFW Chicanos keep having this video removed because they're buttblasted they idolize a coward
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=00nzCJAQUX8
http://www.boxingscene.com/marquez-canelo-flat-fee-offer-avoid-golovkin--109369

>Jacobs and Stevens brutally KO'd within a week of each other

Black people on suicide watch

>>74704729
For sure, first one I've felt it worth ruining a night of sleep for since Kovalev Ward, is stacked all through.

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FUCKING FINALLY

the G O A T world title fight

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Say it out loud guys: Tony Bellew, wbc heavyweight champion

>>74704550
You'll see I'm right soon enough lad, Choco is old for the weight and is on the wane.

>>74705195
hahaha

>>74705221
I say he won't lose until after he and Inoue finally fight, and that will take at least another year

He's not as strong as anyone in the division, but he has a GGG-tier chin and I think it'll last him until he turns 30

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Whens this ugly bastard going to be back? Would Joshua be his next target? i fancy this could be Wlads last fight win lose or draw

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>not been beaten since 2016

Fucking hell Sky, that's some North Korea-tier propaganda

>>74705441

July at the earliest. I think he wants at least 1 fight before he considers Joshua. Bellew's hand is fractured ruling him out until the end of the year which increases the chances of the Haye rematch and he probably won't be able to get Wilder straight away because he'll fight either Stiverne or Parker/Hughie

>>74705564
I dont think he would line up a Haye fight again , Haye looks past it and hes messed him about twice.probably cost him a shit tone of mony

>>74705587

I meant Bellew fighting Haye. Bellew and Haye are both out injured until the end of the year as they're saying Bellew probably needs a hand operation and the fight made a lot of money so if they do that rematch Fury can't fight Bellew who he called out.

Fury will probably have to take an easy fight first fight back 1. Because he's not match fit 2. Because he isn't going to have that many options. I'm sure Eddie Hearn would love to do Joshua vs Fury at Wembley in September but it's not a fight Fury has been calling for and it's a risky one to take first fight back.

>>74705617
Ah yeah i get ya ,i misread.

I agree he would struggle to get to his fitness to the same level as the wlad fight, he looked so trim and he would need to be against Joshua

Will AJ try and go for an early KO against Wlady?

>>74705765
He will be out of his comfort zone that cant be plan A or he will just get out boxed.Who knows though , stranger things have happened

>>74705765
Tell a man SHAT AP

Round 3 KO

>>74705769
Does Klitscko have the stamina and movement anymore to keep Joshua at the end of his jab? I doubt he could strong arm/clinch his way through 12 rounds with someone who is as large as AJ.

>>74705789
Also need to remember Klit is an old man at 40 and never really had an iron chin like his brother.

>>74705789
I think he has the movement and stamina, you have to remember that Joshua is a pretty rigid fighter.It's a tough one to call but i personally fancy the old bull

>>74705830
He's rigid, yes, but he can let his hands go pretty well. Wlad will let him taste a few jabs and Joshua would eventually want to explode. To stop a very fast, powerful, and large combination puncher like AJ tagging you on the chin for 12 rounds would be difficult, espically if you're 40 years old and your main go-to tactic when in danger is to use your size advantage to tie up your opponent.

Still, I would like nothing more than for Wlad to KO AJ, derail his hype, make Hearn contemplate suicide, win millions, take home a belt and ride off into the sunset with his 12 inch cock balls deep in Hayden Panettieres ass after that Fury fiasco.

>>74705789

It's not impossible for him to win, if he clinches a lot and constantly punches to the body AJ could start to gas. The first 3 rounds are when Joshua is most dangerous.

inform me on facebook streams. how are they in comparison to 45 pop up streaming sites?

>>74705765
he shouldn't. If he does & is successful, then due to wlads inactivity & age people will discount the victory... especially windmill wilder.

>>74706094
>people will discount the victory
not casuals.

>>74705441
Tyson Fury is the most overrated heavyweight of all time, or probably only on /box/

>>74704729
It has two good fights and two good names in tune-ups

I'd say the DeGale vs Jack card was better since it had three good fights

>>74705547
Lmao

At least the undercard is good though

>>74706228
He's going to look great when Wlad flattens AJ

Jarrell Miller says Klitschko schooled AJ in sparring, and it's all but confirmed that both Okolie and DuBois badly hurt him in the gym recently. My gut is strongly saying Klitschko wins this

Is America just pretending that the Pirog fight didn't happen?

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I want to get rid of Mares vs Santa Cruz.
Give me a fun fight to replace it with.

Saturday night is gonna be too much boxing
Teper - Wach, Stieglitz, Bösel, GGG, Roman

>>74706561
Why should they? It's not that damning. Jacobs was less than three years into his pro career at the time. Taking a loss or two early in your career used to be seen as a healthy part of your development

>>74706752
Is it true that the German boxing will be PPV over there?

>>74706752
>Teper - Wach
Really interested in this one.

>>74706765
Teper is a good case study on just how much PEDs can actually improve a fighter's performance

Who /looking forward to GGG vs Saunders getting announced so you can bully afghanbro/ here?

>>74706797
Didn't Wach also test postive.

Why is Holyfield not regarded as a GOAT?

Why do people hype Tyson more than him?

>>74706828
Evander simply didn't have the same style/aura that Tyson had.

>>74706228
>most overrated heavyweight of all time

No that's Tua, Dempsey and Jack Johnson

>>74706819
Oh yeah true

Someone should make a parallel boxing league that allows PEDs. I guarantee it'd be better to watch. You already have Fury, Ortiz, Povetkin and Teper at heavyweight

>>74706512
How about the Frampton/Santa Cruz II card? Was that the one with Gervonta Davis?

>>74706753
>Taking a loss or two early in your career used to be seen as a healthy part of your development
Loma took the loss and now is probably better because of it. Canelo should have taken a loss earlier so the first loss against Mayweather wouldn't have looked so embarrassing

>>74704729
I liked Vargas-Berchelt better but I understand the ones that say the main event was one sided.

>>74706763
nope, all on free tv, even ggg - jacobs is on free tv

>>74705765
No, he'll be wary of Klitschko's power.

Joshua by sleep-inducing UD

>>74705044
I'll watch it kek

>>74706228
I don't think so, he's got a huge reach that makes him insanely hard to beat.
He's an alright boxer and a physical freak, I'd like to see him try to fuck with AJ though.

>>74705765
Probably not, it'll be a boxing match until AJ breaks him down or Wlad wins by jab and hug.

>>74706828
Too much headbutting and rubbing.
Leaves a bad taste in people mouths.

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Mayweather vs McGregor confirmed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULIbxJrmTwU

Best jab of all the time ? Hearns ?

>>74706828
Because casuals cry about him being dirty and defend tyson hitting people after the bell and biting a piece of a man's ear off. Holyfield came to fight, idk why people don't like him.

>>74706828

Chasing Tyson is a good documentary about this

>>74708930
This made me appreciate Holyfield the fighter more. Holyfield the man is just a religious nut

>>74708798
Why is Kellerman yelling?

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>>74708798
no, it's NOT confirmed and it won't happen
dude, why would conor go into a ring with a 49-0 boxer? conor is not a boxer, Floyd will KO him, it won't even be a TKO

a 49-0 p4p #1 boxer against a mma dude, that's like 11 NFL kickers against the UEFA team of the year

stop talking abuout conor vs. floyd, it won't happen

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>>74709509
>why would conor go into a ring with a 49-0 boxer?

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Hi, its Dwyer. GamblersAdvisory.com, DwyerVIP.com. Remember, the opinion you should follow should be your own. Just consider this video to be a second opinion form a complete stranger online.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5_GU-TPY18

>>74708851
Ike Quartey might have had the best one in my lifetime

On a scale of Brook to Ishida, how badly is Jacobs going to get KO'd on saturday?

>>74709939
lel

i unironcially like watching his vids

>>74710162
Ive never watched one before but he has a relaxing voice. I'm enjoying it.

>>74710162
>>74710201

he is a cool guy desu, my favourite moment was when he broke down Chris Brown vs Soulja boy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-JllhLvDhw&t=6s

>>74710151
Lemieux

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4o5T_Ja_TR4

@ 1:48 what did cuadras mean by this?

>>74710151
Gabor Balogh or Dominic Wade

Ricky Hatton vs Johnny Nelson live on ITV4 right now lads

Brutal contest

>>74709242
He's an American, always get confused as to why their pundits seem to think I'm so hard of hearing but seems to be just the way it is.

>>74710077
Quartey had an unbelievable jab. Really a shame he lost his taste for boxing, he could have been a hall of famer. Always wished a fight with Trinidad could have happened.

>>74708851
Jab Zudah

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>>74712343

>>74708851

Larry holmes had the best jab. Hearns was more known for his straight right down the pipe, usually set up by a jab to the body.

>>74713066

Is boxing big in portugal? I've never seen a portuguese boxer, no spaniards either. Arturo gatti trained out of a portuguese gym for awhile in New Jersey .

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>>74712343

>>74713808

Lots of Brits train in portugal too.

Kell Brook, Matthew Macklin, Ohara Davies, Conor Benn all set their camps there.

https://youtu.be/fDrOu2LyNJg

So I was watching this today and Cosell mentions that fight is being scored using the 20 point must system. Anybody familiar with any different scoring systems like this?

>>74713808
Not at all, at least to my knowledge, as far as I know I'm the only portuguese person who posts in these threads.

>>74714133

good weather to train in, I live in florida and we get tons of international fighters having camp down here. I got to meet a lot of high level boxers.

>>74713808
>no spaniards either

Kiko Martinez and Gabriel Campillo were world level. Boxing used to be bigger during the dictatorship as Franco was a big fan apparently.

I can't name a single Portuguese athlete who isn't a footballer.

>>74714863
Yeah we're not very good at other sports.

Buncey and various other journos are saying there's too much money on the table for Mayweather-McGregor not to happen now. Clearly Floyd ruins him in a boxing ring, so what accommodations do you think will be made? Do you think they'll wear bigger gloves or something so McGregor doesn't get instantly sparked?

Joshua is a excellent and complete fighter but it wouldn't be wise to underestimate Wilder his right is ridiculous, Klitschko and Fury both avoided fighting him for a reason

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Who else /gotfuckedupinsparringandneedstoworkontheirconditioning/ today?

>>74717188

nothing better than a hard sparring session and then relaxing with good food and a movie.

Sucks 2 be u

>>74716271
Considering how easily he was being outboxed by Washington I simply can't see AJ not having an easy time with that windmill with eyes.

>>74715752
The only hurdle is the UFC

>>74717219
Yea I got some chicken tits in the fridge and some Xfiles episodes Im gunna watch.

I gotta change something though. There's days I can spar 6-9 rounds and days I can only go 4, like today. But we were both fucking each other up decent today.

>>74710162

He's fucking retarded. How can you still listen to him after Froch raped Bute.

>>74717629
Pretty sure I heard him say that Tim Bradley would beat Golovkin too

>>74717767

That boy needs to put down the pipe.

>>74717767
You now remember that Dontae last year said that Golovkin should fight Kell Brook since it would be a real challenge, but once that did happen he said it was a terrible match up

>>74718433
link he's not that retarded ................is he?

>>74718476
I ignored his page months ago, nothing but Golovkin, Kovalev and HBO hate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z-YUG9ziSs

GET HYPE

>>74717279

Ive never went more than 5 rounds I think, and they were all 2 minute rounds.

I can run 8 miles easy, skip rope for hours, do hill sprints faster than most people in the gym, but nothing empties my gas tank quicker than sparring.

Tbf, im not super experienced so I think a lot of that is just nerves in the ring tho.

>>74720343

yeah, that's what it is. You gotta learn to relax under what seem like unnatural circumstances. When you panic it totally depletes your reserves. It just comes with experience, but as long as your conscious of it, you'll improve and eventually 6 rounds of hard sparring will seem like nothing.

Also, its somewhat academic, but don't think of sparring as fighting and have an understanding with partners that you're just practicing so you guys can take things away from it. You don't learn as much when you go all out in sparring. Its a stupid ineffective approach unless you're really high level.

>>74705547
Only just heard about the fight and most of the good tickets are already sold.

Dammit...

>>74709509
>Floyd will KO him
lol Conor has 30 lbs and 5 inches on him and he doesn't get dropped with ufc gloves

>>74705547
>"... and former undefeated"

British boxing is a goldmine of these kind of things

>>74719171
ive watched this vid on probably 10 separate occasions

>>74718476
They are born retarded.
They become scumbags

>>74721671
>>"... and former undefeated"
Almost spit my coffee out one afternoon watching a UK fight and heard that shit from the ring MC during introductions

>>74709509

McGregor is so much bigger and stronger, younger, has a solid jaw and will eventually hurt Floyd.

The bigger, stronger dude will win. McGregor will grant him a rematch and make $100M, and probably retire.

>>74710201
yeah i like his voice too

>>74709939
DWYER....AKA "THE CANELO HATER"

move all Mayweather-McGregor talk to /asp/ please

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what does /box/ think about the duran vs chavez sr. beef?

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>>74718476
>"..,right?"

>>74723995
someone shoud photoshop black boxing nation or /box/ on his hat

>>74722814
so? floyd would also win against a 22 year old 6ft6 300lbs guy who has never boxed properly in his life. floyd wasn't hurt by de la hoya, hatton, judah or marquez a mma guy who can't box is gonna KO floyd?
fuck this, I can't take this bullshit anymore

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>>74721671
>>74722807

>>74724015
I'd try but it isnt worth the 2-3 (you)'s id be getting.

I'm thinking on buys a boxing bag for my home gym. Is there anything special I should know? Does the weight of the bag matter at all?

>>74723905
Duran is one of those old bitter boxers that loves to shit on anyone that came along after him esp. when they made more money.

>>74705765

I hope Wlad catches him with the Steelhammer just once, only then will we see what AJ is made of.

>>74722814

He won't hurt him because he'll hardly land clean due to the massive gulf in class and Mayweather has a decent chin. That said I don't expect Mayweather will be able to stop him, he has the reflexes now but not the power.

>>74724097
You should get a lighter/shorter bag (but not ridiculously small). It'll give you more options to set it up and you *probably* won't damage yourself while punching it with improper technique.

>>74723905
Pretty much this >>74724158

He's a legend and all, but most of the shit he says today is to get attention. He also said a couple of years ago that Canelo would knock out Golovkin, right after saying he had never heard of Golovkin

>>74724053

Ricky Hatton is a 140 lb fighter and that was the last guy he legitmately stopped 10 years ago. He won't stop a domestic level super welterweight with a chin, it will just be a one sided boxing lesson.

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***BREAKING*** Vasyl Lomachenko calls out Conor McGregor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbDxi_ZqTLY

>>74726282

He's got the walk down. Loma would knock him out because he actually pressures, would pay for that

David Brophy stopped Zac Dunn in his hometown earlier today

Why are Brits so much tougher than Australians?

I had a vision that Jacobs will win and take the middleweight titles back to bum city aka PBC until the wbc makes him defend against Canelo

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Purses for tomorrow's card. I assume those are minimum guarantees for GGG and Jacobs and they also have points on the PPV, but it's still less than the $3m than Jacobs was reportedly demanding

Gonzalez is getting paid pretty well

Who you got for Brook-Spence?

>>74726963
Chocolatito has got to be the highest paid boxer in any weight class below middle right?

>>74724158
>>74725155
t. Pedro Rodriguez

>>74727241
Frampton and Santa Cruz both made a million for their last fight, Choco has never made that kind of money I'm pretty sure.

>>74727241
>>74727329
Lomachenko also got $1m against Walters

I think Donaire surpassed $1m a couple of times too

>>74726282
Just another broke bum trying to sell some shit. That little twerp wants nothing to do with Conor's left hand.

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Jacobs looks a little rangier than GGG but GGG looks much healthier than he did at the Brook weigh-in

>>74727241
Pretty sure Canelo, Cotto, Thurman, Brook, Pacquiao, Khan, Danny Garcia, Santa Cruz, Frampton, Broner, Lomachenko, Crawford and Tim Bradley usually get paid more.

>>74721445
He's never been dominated for 12 rounds by an all-time great boxer, either.

>>74727432
wow didn't realise how tall Jacobs was.

Why did Roy Jones Jr. decline so rapidly?

>>74727241
Probably highest paid undercard fighter

>>74727520
he relied on his reflexes and that's usually the first things to go.

>>74727520
He did dominate all the divisions he was in for about 10 years

>>74727520
He fought at a high level for a long time and moved up and down in weight.

>>74727432
How hard will people claim Jacobs is a bum when Golovkin wins?

>>74727684
Jacobs is ok, but a win over him still wouldn't justify the hype around GGG

>>74727684
Jacobs AND Saunders make his record start to look respectable. Just one of the 2 I think it's still pretty reasonable to call it weak.

>>74727520
Was old.
Relied a lot on his natural ability.
Dropped ~20 lbs to fight Tarver.
Got KO'd cold twice in 5 months.

>>74727705
>>74727728
I thought Lemieux and Brooks were respectable wins?

>>74727757
Brook is a WW, and Lemieux doesn't really have too many big wins (N'Dam, Gabe Rosado and now Stevens) nor any significant accomplishment in the amateurs.

>>74727728
He KO'd Martin Murray. His record has been respectable since then.

>>74727705
Who else can he even fight at this point?
He's down to the last two middleweights and then Canela, then there is literally no one else in the division that he hasn't already KO'd or is even close to his level.

>>74727966

Boxing is the only spprt where a win doesn't raise your stock, it just lowers your opponents

>>74727966
Charlo is now at 160 and you'd assume some of those other big 154 lbers would follow him sooner or later

>>74727520
drug testing

>>74727966
There's really nothing he can do outside of unify, unfortunately.

>>74727540
This is right answer.
He wasn't even that good of a pure boxer, just a physical freak with insane speed power and reflexes. Still one of the best of all time in his prime though.

>>74727728
>Jacobs AND Saunders make his record start to look respectable

If he beats Jacobs and Saunders this year and unifies all four of the major world titles, he's probably getting into the Hall of Fame at some point. If he also beats Canelo before anyone else does, he'll 100% get in shortly after he retires. Anything else is a bonus

>>74728130
>If he also beats Canelo before anyone else does
again, that is.

Eddie Hearn's York Hall show will be streamed on Facebook from 7pm btw

>>74728171
Pfft everyone knows that fight was a draw.
Only one judge wasn't paid off

>>74727966
>>74727966
Saunders to become undisputed. And unless someone emerges from the ranks (Charlo, Derevyanchenko, Murata etc) or 154, then move up to 168-175.
If you want to discredit his opponents at 160 you can do it:
Saunders is an unreliable fatso who is looking to cash out and looked like shit in his last fight against a nobody.
Lee is fringe world level and is riding off of a lucky shot win in 2014.
Jacobs has been KO'd and only has a single good win on a questionable stoppage and his chin is non-existant.
Lemieux is one dimensional and lost to Rubio.
Sulecki is a WHO? .
N'Dam lost to one dimensional Lemieux, how can he be good?
And generally stuff like this. I don't necessarily agree with all those but unfortunately he is at MW at a time in which MW is weak. Imo he should have moved up a long time ago.

>>74728190
>domestic level fighters
I'll pass.

>>74728171
Yeah, just as long as he's still considered a P4P calibre fighter and the biggest draw in boxing. If Chavez or Lemieux upset him it will be funny for us but bad for business and for GGG's legacy

>>74728216
He never fought N'Dam

>>74728221
A domestic level British fighter just KTFO the best Australian fighter mate

http://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/10805141/david-brophy-crowned-commonwealth-champion-after-stopping-zac-dunn-in-australia

>>74728230
This brings up another question: what happens after CaneloGolovkin?

>>74728216
Super middleweight is weaker than middleweight though

DeGale, Groves, Zeuge, Chudinov are shite and Ramirez ducked Korobov ffs

>>74728003

Everyone is a bum once GGG smashes them remember that. People were saying lemieux was a C level fighter yet he is clearly now the #2 or #3 MW in the world.

>>74728259
I imagine he'll be thinking about retirement by 2019 whatever happens

If he beats Jacobs, Saunders and Canelo then he should probably face one of the title holders at 168, probably Ramirez since he's also a HBO fighter

>>74728309
Just goes to show how weak the division is.

>>74728288
SMW has more recognizable names, tough.

>>74728322
I don't think he'd beat Ramirez.
What would be the next big machup in boxing if/when the Canelo bouts happens?

>>74728335

Its not weak at all, its one of the strongest. Its only weak when a guy you don't like is dominating the division.

>>74728259
FuryGolovkin

>>74728335
>SMW has more recognizable names, tough.

Only DeGale, and he's not a particularly good champion. Golovkin would beat the shit out of him for sure

>>74728343
>What would be the next big machup in boxing if/when the Canelo bouts happens?

I guess the main focus will be on unification at heavyweight and welterweight in the next few years

>>74728216
I don't think he should ever move up.
He's a small middleweight with LHW power, the only fight he should move up for is the winner of Kovalev/Ward 2/3 at catchweight or 168.
I agree the competition is somewhat weak, but that's mostly because he made them all look like absolutely nothing.
Honestly the only three people on the planet (that are realistic weight) that could give him any issues at all are Ward, Kov and Canelo.
I don't think it's fair to say Jacobs is a bum because he got KO'd, the guy that KO'd him was well on his way to being a champion before he broke his back.

>>74727728

Murray/Macklin/Geale were all top guys who other top MW's struggled with.

fuck off with your faggotry. Lemieux would knock Canelo out. His record is just as good or better than when Hopkins was making 21 title defenses against absolute trash.

>>74728389
He might as well challenge one of the title holders at 168, they're not that formidable

Zurdo probably has the trickiest style for GGG but he doesn't have the power to keep him off him, plus he seems like he might be a bitch if he won't even face Korobov

>>74727808
I believe Lemieux's win over Stevens makes ggg's win over him look better.

>>74728259

epic trilogy, in an ideal world

>>74728343
I honeslty don't see why everone rates Ramirez so highly, GGG is a better boxer I think, the kid is still very green in the grand scheme of things.

That reminds me about hopkins MW run. He was making title defenses on HBO against guys coming off losses, guys that were welterweights smaller than kell brook. Hopkins is also a lot bigger than golovkin at 6'1 vs 5'9 1/2

but his MW run was "historic", his win against ODLH was a big deal, de la hoya made his boxing debut at fucking 135lbs.

>GGG fighting another can

>>74728372
DeGale, Dirrell x2, Groves, Abraham, Jack, Callum Smith, Eubank Jr, Muarry and Chavez Jr are all more recognizable than N'Dam and BJS

>>74728424

I don't either, the only thing ramirez has is size. I have yet to be impressed by him.

>>74728421
I don't disagree.

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>>74728259
Golovkin fights Chocolatito and Loma in a 2 on 1 cage match

>>74728460

He's tall, rangy and a southpaw. That's gonna make him a tough out for anyone in the division.

>>74728434
BHop unified the division.

>>74728491
My prediction for him vs GGG is that GGG would batter his body to a pulp, liver shot KO in the 7th.
Not enough experience and not enough speed/movement.

>>74728460
>>74728491
Plus he works his combinations well.

>>74728448
Saunders is better than Eubank, Murray and Groves

Jacobs is better than the Dirrell bros

Canelo is better than Ramirez and Chavez Jr

Jack is now at 175

So DeGale is the only super middle really worth moving up for right now

>>74728590
Read what I said: more recognizable names.
And I do believe Eubank would beat BJS in the rematch.

>>74728448
GGG already beat Dirrell and it wasn't even close.

>>74728634
They're not that recognisable

The point is that moving to 168 prior to finishing business at 160 would be a waste of time and if anything would hurt his legacy in the long run. Unifying all four titles is a major claim to fame and Canelo is the biggest name in boxing. Those two fights are essential for GGG

>>74728237
I was also listing potential opponents from the top 10, he hasn't fought Lee and Sulecki either.
>>74728259
If GGG wins he goes for defenses record and then who knows.
>>74728288
SMW is also weak but GGG would at least have the "I moved up excuse". Or they might say he moved up to avoid Lara, who knows.
>Ramirez ducked Korobov
Don't remind me.
>>74728389
>that's mostly because he made them all look like absolutely nothing.
I agree.
I just think moving up would help the narrative "Oh look MW is so weak and they are all ducking so I will move up" and I do think that SMW has more recognisable names.

>>74719171
I thought standing count didn't exist anymore just like the 3 knockdown rule

>>74727432
what's up with the belt of the left ?
It's WBC but why is it like that, a special belt ?

>>74728679
>counting amateur bouts

*tips headgear*

>>74728683
>They're not that recognisable
I said more recognisable, especially Eubank Jr.

>The point is that moving to 168 prior to finishing business at 160 would be a waste of time and if anything would hurt his legacy in the long run.
I don't disagree.

>>74728809
Eubank says he still wants Golvokin at 160 anyway

>I don't disagree.

I've lost track of this discussion then. I'm all for GGG moving up at some point but only after he's got the WBO and the Canelo fight either gets made or definitively ruled out

Adonis Chickenson has paid Alvarez to let him take another voluntary against Seanie Monaghan and the WBC are pissed so they've ordered an eliminator between Gvozdyk and Smith Jr to determine a second mandatory challenger

Do you think Adonis will dump his belt to avoid Gvozdyk like Quillin did to avoid Korobov?

>>74728536

Against many bums. GGG has already done it much sooner. The only holdouts are guys unwilling to fight him. You'll never see GGG go 12 rounds with Robert Allen, Jermain Taylor or Howard Eastman either, lmao.

>>74729003
Jermain Taylor in his prime was better than Danny Jacobs, although Hopkins gets no credit for that anyway since he lost twice

>>74729003
You wont see him go 12 rounds period.
If Martin Murray couldn't survive him I don't know who can, the guy is a zombie.

Anyone think Micky Conlan will have a tough time living up to the expectations placed on him?

Reminds me of when Verdejo turned pro, except Verdejo actually looked more talented than Conlan

>>74728986

Gvozdyk-Smith Jr. Make it happen.

>>74729049

Lol, Jermain Taylor was a basic one two puncher. That Hopkins was so afraid of finally fighting a guy his own size that he literally stayed away the whole time shows how pathetically overrated he was. I don't know who's better between Jacobs or Taylor but I know GGG would've destroyed Taylor worse than Pavlik did.

>>74728986
>I remember when everyone was saying the whole division was scared of Stevenson
kek, what a fucking faggot

>>74729357

Stevenson isn't very good, let's be real.

I think Joe Smith Jr. could KO him.

Larry Holmes vs. George Foreman prime for prime, who wins?

>>74729344
Taylor's amazing jab would've given GGG more to think about than anyone else he's faced anyway

>>74729373
I think so too, he's overrated as fuck because he looks like a unit and can crack a little bit.
Joe Smith came out of fucking nowhere desu, the kid is actually a pretty tidy boxer with power too.
Would be a fun fight. They're both nowhere near Kovalev though, not even close.

>>74729462
Think Smith can beat Gvozdyk?

>>74729462

I could see Stevenson getting old overnight (He'll be 40 soon) and Smith knocking him out with a big right hand.

Can somebody explain to me the Stevenson-Kovalev purse bid situation? I've heard that Kov-HBO lowballed by not offering enough and then I heard that Stevenson ducked by running to PBC-Showtime.

>>74729478

That'd be a cracking fight. It could end at any time.

Gvozdyk has scary power.

i just started uploading fights to youtube gimme views so i can get that sweet adsense plz


https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1QKVtZCd40gccBFzXMoUzg/videos

>>74729478
I don't think so. They're both still young and unexposed though, so who knows.
I'd pay to see that though for sure.

>>74728742
It's a special belt promoting a program the wbc made with the pope. Supposed to promote clean and safe boxing. The winner gets that belt

>>74729315

>missing out on big payday fights to get knocked out by a literally who Eastern Euro

Smith's people should be doing everything to stop it happening

>>74729615

Smith-Browne in an all-NY fight.

>>74729587
ok thanks
I'm a bit tired of all those useless belt 2bh
What's next a special cinco de mayo mexican belt for Canelo vs Chavez ?

>>74729434
Foreman.

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>>74729669

yes?

>>74729615
He could get to Gvozdyk. Gvozdyk hasn't got the best defence or chin. If Smith hits him like Karpency did then it's lights out

And then he'd be the WBC mandatory and entitled to 30% of the purse against Adonis, which is probably more than Stevenson would give him in open negotiations

>>74730023

When you have 2 hard punchers, especially in the higher weight classes, anything can happen.

The York Hall card is streaming on Sky Sports' Facebook page now

Cash, Chamberlain and Hyland Jr are all worth watching. The two main fights will be on TV though

>>74730311

Watching now. 10pm on Sky Sports 1

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Gonzalez looked pretty healthy at the weigh in contrary to rumours that he was struggling

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Some nice foxy boxing on the Isaac Lowe undercard tomorrow

Is Jacobs naturally bigger than GGG?

>>74730538
Yeah, he'll probably be a good 6 or 7 lbs heavier in the ring

Fury looks like a whale.

>>74730501
I want to impregnate the Blondie with shit genes

Felix Cash is coming into the ring on the Sky Sports stream now. He's facing another undefeated fighter so hopefully it'll be fun

>>74727432
Gyno on Jacobs?

>>74729504
stevenson technically had the negotiating edge as he was the belt holder and kovalev was the mandatory or #1 contender, something like that.

obviously this would be easy to negotiate, except stevenson made it impossible, and they held out so far until it was gonna be a purse bid, which obviously would be super unfair to kovalev getting like 25% with 3 of the belts!!!! so they said screw it and went another direction.

>>74729615
this, stevenson being a ducking bastard is gonna ruin smith's career lel. picked monaghan instead of smith, when desu even something like monaghan/smith would be cool. but i guess monaghan's people think they can get more $ fighting adonis than splitting it with smith.

funny thing about monaghan is that it mirrors duddys situation. maybe a B fighter at best that somehow continues to be undefeated, but still waiting for a decent title shot and decent money. except duddy lost in a stay-busy fight and blew the shot (tho he had jcc jr later and andy lee after but he retired). monaghan is still hanging in there waiting to cash out.

>>74731069
>but i guess monaghan's people think they can get more $ fighting adonis than splitting it with smith.

It's probably a Khan vs Brook situation where they both know the fight will always be there so they just sit on it as a backup plan while they exhaust all their other options

>>74731033
and i ahve to make it super clear though.

kovalev = 3 belts, wanted stevenson's to unify. so stevenson was like fine, if you want this belt so much, pay me the 75% of the purse bid. which of course is absolutely ridiculous, and imo kovalev probably deserves at least 60/40 as stevenson doesnt even have that many fans in quebec nor good ratings. but of course stevensons camp is highly irrational because they're scared.

>>74730932
>want to impregnate
>Shit genes

>>74731087
yeah but monaghan/smith with no belt on the line would desu not be a big fight. smith before fonfara fought will rosinky and that was a long island derby of sorts, but it was an off-tv undercard at best. this fight is like a tv undercard at best with no belt invovled.

Could Khan beat Spence?

Why is there so much hype behind Michael Conlan? Sure he had a very good amateur career but he isn't an Olympic gold medalist although he did screwed last time (wasn't in the final though).

>>74731185
No chance.

>>74731306
He's Irish and a bit cheeky so he's virtually guaranteed to be a ticket seller. He's also arguably Ireland's most successful amateur boxer ever

I agree that the hype is a little too much though. He's not a Lomachenko and would've likely lost to Robeisy or Shakur if he had progressed to the semis at Rio and he got dropped pretty hard by Akhmadaliev at Doha

https://youtu.be/DB1RtID1js0?t=1m38s

Is it okay if my hand tilts 45 degrees like this when punching? It feels more natural to me.

>flyweight

Bore me later.

>>74731185
Khan couldn't beat an egg.

>>74731387
>>74731832
Daily reminder Khan dropped Maidana

>>74732129
>The perfect body shot
Doubt he will replicate it ever again.

How badly would Roy Jones beat Ward?

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k e k

>>74732187
Probably be like his fights with Hopkins and Toney

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>>74732222
>i-i'll be back in may

>>74732227
you think he'd last the 12?

>>74732278
If he could with Kovalev then he would with (prime) RJJ

what time is Conlan fighting?

>>74731832
He beat 8 candles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b01KVj6NZ18

>>74732354
Lmao, you cannot seriously be saying they're on a similar level. Prime RJJ is by far the best fighter of my lifetime, kovelev is just very good.

Fucking hell that little rap for the boxing on Sky was awful

anyone have a stream?

Good scrap here

>>74733041
Kovalev has monsterious power

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>pillowfist

are all of you on /box/ casuals or is it always this dead during a fight?

>>74733511
/box/ is always pretty dead, except on big fights

>>74732222
>Tony soprano
Someone shop into some sopranos stuff

>>74733511
It's St Paddy's Day so I imagine all the /box/ Chads are out getting laid

Personally I'm enjoying the York Hall show on Sky though. Southern Area title fights always deliver. We need to get more of them on TV

Shit decision though, Higgins definitely won that

literally robbed

Lol even Eddie Hearn thinks it was the wrong decision

Peter Cope was robbed earlier as well

British referees are fucking cunts

>>74733688
British are fuckin cunts*

Craig Richards was a proper bellend in the interview too

>>74733716
You know it's a robbery when Hearn thinks he was beaten and doesn't thing he's good enough to move on past low domestic level

Dai Davies is a rare case of a journeyman who managed to turn his career around and now wins more than he loses

He's fought Martin Lindsay, Derry Mathews, Gary Sykes, Jamie McDonnell, Rendall Munroe, Jason Booth, Lee Selby, Kid Galahad, Stuart Hall and Jazza Dickens, among others

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>>74733654
>>74733663
>>74733679
>>74733688
>>74733716
>>74733801

>>74733528
Boxing threads in general are pretty shitty on 4chan. Reddit's boxing page is much better, seriously, no baiting.

>>74727222
Spence, but regardless, I'm absolutely sure that the winner of this fight beats Keith Thurman.

>>74733905
I check it to get the news, but the lack of anonimity makes most posts infuriating, no legit discussion, everyone says what others want to hear cause of downvotes.

>>74733905
/box/ during Euro hours shits on r/boxing

r/boxing is pretty bad actually. Not much substance over there and too many casuals. Even the forums are more interesting

Down goes Davies :(

Bellotti looks good though, very sharp

>>74733905
Nah man. Reddit is good for news. Beside the OP the actual discussion and interactions are pretty lame. /box/ is confy af

>>74733935
>>74733981
BoxingScene is much better for news

>>74733981
>>74733935

BoxingScene + Dan Rafael's twitter is all you need for news. I really do prefer r/boxing, though. The discussions are more focused since threads are limited to one topic rather than the free-for-all format you get on the /box/ threads. And many of the people there seem pretty knowledgeable too. That said, I visit a variety of sites on a regular basis.

>>74734017
>>74734064
Aye, thanks dudes, I'm not saying this beccause of the "go back to le reddit xddd" thing, something genuinely bothyers me about the way people act on reddit, but some threads are decent, others are not. I just prefer /box/.

damn he got btfo

>>74734099
>something genuinely bothyers me about the way people act on reddit

I know exactly what you mean. It's like the online version of a punchable face

>>74734164
> It's like the online version of a punchable face
This. Maybe is my autism tho

Someone link Khan's sex tape, I want to see what the big fucking deal is

>>74734238
It's just him playing with his 5 inch dick on Skype

Incidentally, Roy Jones has a smaller penis than I expected

>>74734249
So why are all the Mayweather niggers reacting as if it's some scandal?

>>74734238
>>74734249
>>74734264
Wut

>>74734264
leave the goat out of dis pls

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>>74734238
>>74734264

>>74734273
What Mayweather niggers?

It was only a scandal because he's a Muslim and it was leaked shortly after he got married I think

Unless there is a new sex tape I haven't seen myself

any stream for conlan ibarra

Can we fast forward 24 hours plz?

>>74726963
Fighters only report a certain amount of the purse to the commission. If they declared their whole purse, they'd get ate up with taxes

Jesus christ are mma fans stupid, this Conor mcfailedboxer talk is just retarded. "He'll get in a good left then floyd goes down." Ebin

>>74727370
Lomachenko would take him to school
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etWbCUQ_68w&t=14s

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>>74734402

this

>>74727705
>justify the hype around GGG
Golovkin is the best MW in the world.
He's one of, if not THE best fighter in the world.
That's not "hype". It's the truth.

>>74734291
>>74734347
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VnbwDc70pXA
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k7SblHIqz4M

Whats the deal with conlan? Is he actually any good?

>>74728032
>you'd assume some of those other big 154 lbers would follow him
Why?
It's easier for them to stay down at 154 until GGG moves to SMW then they can say GGG moved up to avoid them.
Do you think Charlo would be at MW if he could still make 154lbs?
Those guys will stay at JMW as long as they can until GGG goes to 168

>>74734521
He's good but I'm not sure he's as good as Arum wants him to be

It'll be interesting to follow anyway

>>74734538

If I were in charge of boxing I would cancel all the "junior" divisions in the sport, its disgusting. There are 3 different middle weight divisions today, 154, 160, 168.

>>74728061
>in his prime
When he was juiced to the gills

>>74734563
almost everyone was, and is juiced to the gills in almost every sport.

>>74728335
>SMW has more recognizable names
Bullshit. It has guys who weigh more than GGG and you think that means they are better fighters.
The biggest "name" and money fight at 168 is Chavez Jr.
Golovkin signed to fight him 2 years ago at 168.
Chavez Jr turned down potential $17mil/2 fights and ran to Al Haymon rather than fight GGG.
Tells you all you need to know

>>74728414
>Zurdo
He's trying to fight guys like Dominik Britsch and Max Bursak. That's where he's at right now lol

>>74728536
BHop needed 2 fights against Segundo Mercado to win the vacant IBF belt lol

>>74729049
>Jermain Taylor in his prime was better than Danny Jacobs
Maybe for 3 rounds. Taylor is only a 4 round fighter

>>74729373
>I think Joe Smith Jr. could KO him.
That's why he's fighting Monaghan instead of Smith Jr

>>74734562
I think 12 divisions distributed evenly between ~112 and ~220 would be ideal. Also weight cutting needs to be eradicated altogether

AIBA works alright with just 10, but occasionally you see fights where size is clearly a factor. I think the leaps between middle, light heavy and heavy are still too steep compared to the gaps between the smaller weights

>>74729504
Back in 2013, Kovalev fought on the undercard of Stevenson-Bellew on HBO to build up a fight between Stevenson and Kovalev in 2014.
In the post fight interview, Stevenson didn't want to talk about fighting Kovalev.
Not too long after that, Stevenson ran away and signed with Al Haymon, creating a massive roadblock in making the fight.
Adonis Stevenson never wanted to fight Kovalev

>>74733035
He also strangled his cock on skype video chat

>>74733936

This.

When the Brits are awake /box/ is comfy as hell.

The bantz on reddit are kinda shit.

CONOR MCGREGOR IS LEADING CONLON OUT

Omfg

Robson Conceicao

>>74727370
Is this a joke? Lomachenko would absolutely demolish and embarrass McGregor.

whats up lads

decent stream?

>>74735709
Waiting on this fucking 6 round debut to start

http://firstrowir.eu/watch/522558/2/watch-boxing-:-michael-conlan-vs-tim-ibarra.html

Conlon looks like a fairy in that leprechaun outfit, way to live up to the stereotype fag.

kona magiga will KO floyd in 1

>>74735790
Shut up mate i'll chin you out

Conlan is a complete bust, cut him, Arum