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/nfl/ - QBs that will never win another Super Bowl Edition

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FA:Revis open to playing safety, lost 10 pounds
FA:Judge dismisses all charges against FA Revis
NE:Big offseason continues: Pats keep Hightower
MIN:Vikings re-sign 38-year-old CB Terence Newman
NE:Burkhead highest-paid Pats RB since 2010
PIT:Steelers ink former 2nd-rounder Justin Hunter
FA:Ravens dump starting C Zuttah, saving $2.39M
LAR:Rams' McVay excited about 2nd-year TE Higbee
FA:FA Connor Barwin visiting Rams on Wednesday
NE:RFA Malcolm Butler 'warmed to idea' of Saints
CIN:Veteran tackle Andre Smith returning to Cincy
WAS:Report: Browns won't make run at Kirk Cousins
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>>74692987
Why is BB such a fucking genius at football? Now we just need to get the Butler situation settled, and you might as well give us the Lombardi.
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>>74692987
First! Nanner got the division or what
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first 4 da brwns
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is Reuben Foster legit
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>>74693106
He's the third best player in the draft and will go top 10 guaranteed.

The whole combine thing was overblown and everyone universally agrees it won't affect his draft stock because he's had no previous issues before.
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>>74693025
>overpay to resign a good player

>genius

This literally goes against everything he stands for previously and it will hurt the team in the future.
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Yo Sneak
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>>74693166
>Overpay
>Let market dictate value
They were going to offer him 10mil, instead it just went up by .8
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>>74693166
>2nd highest paid MLB behind Keuchly

Considering Hightower is the 2nd best MLB, this is market value
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Who comfy uneventful FA here?
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>>74693186
>>74693216


DESU Bellichick is probably disgusted with himself he even paid the guy market value
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You do realize this only confirms the Patriots are going to trade Hightower as soon as possible right?

BB doesn't sit on big contract guys.
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>>74693261
I think Beli knows were coming down to the end of the Brady (and Belichick himself, possibly, being the 2nd oldest NFL head coach) Era. Try to win 1 more before riding off into the sunset.
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>>74693319
While I am optimistic for another 5 years, I believe you're right. BB is trying to squeeze as may SB runs as he can before the end.
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>>74693168
What?
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>>74693261
Belichick is fine with paying market value. Usually he doesn't pay guys because some shit team is willing to overpay for them.

Like, how many free agent departures has Bill been obviously wrong about?
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>>74693498
It was the same with DMac, he let him test the market, and he came back with some high offers, but BB low balled him and DMac took the low offer to keep winning SB.
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>>74693251
Cook and Zach Brown visiting tonight.
Things are picking up
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>>74693431
You got BotW?
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>>74693546
>Bills have signed WR Andre Holmes
Haha eat shit raidnigger, we got your WR3.
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>>74693529
>earn 1 or 2 mil more a year
vs.
>win da superb owl and play on a non shit team as opposed to the Jags, Jets, Browns, etc.
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1st for Seahawks
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Who /AFCCG at the least/ here
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I thought the Packers still had like 20mil cap space left. Now what the fuck are they going to do with it?
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>>74693498
Talib
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>>74693671
Nothing, signing free agents is bad
t. Ted Thompson
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>>74693715
Bill doesn't deal with "me" guys, which is why Collins is a Cleveland Brown. All about the team.
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>tfw it was ordained by our lord.
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>>74693604
You mean our WR4/5 that never saw the field?

He's an ace special teamer though
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>>74693767
okay but letting talib go their most powerful conference opponent might be the reason the pats won 2 of 3 and not 3 of 3 the last 3 years.
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>>74693833
Yea, I would have sent Talib to the fucking Jags.
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>>74693833
injuries were the main reason they didn't win in 2015 desu
all the offensive skill players were ded
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>>74693555
Not yet.
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>>74693790

>tfw his will was done, on Earth, as it is in heaven. As God, the sweet Jesus, and lord KEK willed it. MEME magic.
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>>74693833
I blame the 20+ guys being on IR than the Broncos being a great team, but I don't think Talib being a Bronco keeps Belichick up at night.
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>>74693885
Pussy
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>>74693876
>>74693910
Talib was a big part of the reason that broncos d was so good. and the broncos probably dont get 12 wins without him giving them homefield.

I'm sure Bill doesn't care but Talib legitimately had a lot of good football left when the pats moved on from him, which is unlike most guys who leave him.
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>Matt ChathamVerified account
@chatham58
>NFL cap in '11 was 120M, 168M now. '11 D Harris MLB deal w/ #Jets was 7.5% of cap, $9M/yr. $12M/yr offer for Hightower = 7.1% of cap. #Lower
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>>74693604
>still have Coop, Crabbers, Cotorie, Roberts
>Bills of all teams talks shit about getting our number 4/5 WR

>go up 24-9
>lose 24-38

Must be upset the Falcons stole your gameplan
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patriots just PAID a white RB more than any of their other RB's in years

god I love those blatant racists sometimes
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>>74693961
the Patriots started 10-0 before Edelman and Gronk got hurt, so again I blame injuries more than the Broncos

And also, I'm not disputing that Talib isn't an elite player, but Belichick doesn't deal with selfish players who don't play to scheme, regardless of talent.
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>>74694074
>not capitalizing on reverse racism against white WRs and RBs

>>74694092
There's nothing to suggest that he wasn't playing to scheme or anything, I think the Broncos just paid him more than Belichick wanted to.
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>>74694004
Harris was in his prime then and a top 10 LB.
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>>74693671
hopefully trade or sign for some veteran cornerback, but probably just throw cheese parties or something
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>>74694074
>Brady
>Hogan
>Edelman
>Amendola
>Gronkowski
>Burkhead
>Solder
>Thuney
>Andrews

Literally the great white hope.
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>>74694165
edleman is an evil kike
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>>74694118
So is Hightower
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>>74694118
I think the point he's trying to make is how much the cap has gone up, not the contract itself.
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>Jeff Howe @jeffphowe
To clarify one note, Hightower rejected the Jets' offer two days ago. He never considered signing there.
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>>74694165
You forgot White.
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>>74693939
meh
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>>74694321
>the state of Jason La Canfora
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>>74692987
>Thielen and Newman resigned

Where were you when Superbowl 52 was basically confirmed to be won by tge superior state of Minnesota?

Me? At work on break orchestrating a wank.
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>>74694321
>implying I wanted the Jets to pay for another Patriots player's retirement pension

Fool me once
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>>74694165
>tfw the twitter neonazis bandwagoned the Patriots because Brady is friends with Trump, but Brady's favorite receiver is Jewish
kek
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>>74694426
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So the Pats have like 200mil cap space left right?
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>>74694520
like 20 now
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>>74694520
not as much as you'd think

I think this is the end of their spending spree

they might have to pony up for Jimmy G if they're moving on from Brady in 2018.
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>>74694541
Opps, that's what I meant
What can you get for that?
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So who did the best in FA so far? The worst? Bretty gud?
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Fuck dude, must be nice having a perennial top 3 QB signed to like the 14th highest average annual salary

Why can't these other QBs stop acting like niggers and destroying their teams' cap space
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>>74694622
iktf

I'm just waiting for one other QB to do it but so far nobody has
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SP4CGea2XfM
If everyone hates the Patriots so much why don't they just beat them? :')
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>>74694520
31m before Hightower. His cap hit this year will probably be around 11m, so 20m right now. Probably 2m going towards rookie signings and some amount to training camp vets, plus Bill likes leaving 10m to roll over to next year.
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>>74694559
not much, they still have to sign draft picks, fill out the roster, etc.

They're pretty much done.

>>74694603
>Best
Patriots

>Worst
Seahawks not getting OL help, drafting a fat RB.

>Bretty gud
Panthers, Lions, Giants
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>>74694603
Best: Patriots

Worst: Redskins

no matter what the jets did this offseason they were in for a rebuild

redskins had a promising gm and qb but decided to treat both like garbage
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>>74694729
>10
Not this year we going all in, get some PR help (Sexy rexy might fill that up), some back up O-linemen to compete, or another solid TE
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>>74694603
Best: Pats, Jags, Colts, Lions

Worst: Seahawks, Redskins, Bengals
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If the Pats keep Butler what will be their average game score?

34-15?
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>>74693265
Wrong
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>>74694850
Could be. In the 2007 season, including the Giants loss they won be an average of 3 touchdowns
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I don't know how the fuck teams will scheme for the Pats offense

Literally pick your poison on who to double team and Brady will just carve you anyway
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>>74694889
You have to get pressure on Brady with your front 4, especially up the middle
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>>74694925
This is probably the only way, either that or have the Bronco's secondary and hope for the best in terms of matchups
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>>74694925
There's only like 3 or 4 teams in the league capable of that though.
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>>74694603
1. Patriots. Added Cooks, Ealy, Gilmore + retained Hightower
2. Browns. Added Zeitler, Tretter and got a free 2nd round pick from the Texans
3. Jaguars. Added Campbell and Bouye
4. Rams. Added Whitworth, Woods and Webster

>Worst
1. Bengals. Lost Whitworth and Zeitler
2. Redskins. Lost GM, Jackson, Garcon and Baker
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>>74694942
>>74694983
And the kicker is that none of those teams can score more than 20 on this Pats D

Maybe Seattle if they meme like last year
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>>74694983
That's life unfortunately

The only other way might be winning a shootout. Their defense will be good, but not that good >>74695007
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QBs that will never win a Super Bowl

>Cousins
>Wentz
>Prescott
>Rivers
>Smeth
>anyone starting for the browns
>Stafford
>Romo
>Bradford
>Winston
>Tannehill
>Taylor
>anyone starting for the jets
>Cutler
>Dalton
>Bortles
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>>74694802
There's really not many players available.

Poe, Revis, Blount, Hankins, Clairborne, Long and I can't see Pats going after more than Blount
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I hope the Stoolers make it to the AFCCG again just so the Pats can hang 50 on them with Cooks and Gronk this time
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>>74694889
Thats why teams try to double team brady.
Broncos: Miller/wolfe
Jets: Wilkerson/Williams
Bills: Brown/williams
Ravens: Suggs/Mosley
Chiefs: Houston/Hali/poe
Seahawks: Bennett/don't know who their 5 gap is
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>>74694499
^_^
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>>74695090
>Tfw brock osweiler has a ring
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How much will the Vikings end up paying him?

He'll get a pity contract eventually.
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>>74695241
>>74695241
he didn't get a ring, he got a bejeweled chastity cage courtesy of peypey
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>>74695265
He sure has fallen far
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>>74695090

If Dak is for real he will win one in next 6 years, If rookie year was not a fluke. If though. And if Zeke Elliot stays with him since Zeke threat is what makes this team past year. Combo deal only.

I still think Wentz has very good possibility if settles down and gets more help. Was his rookie year in Eagles team that was not great at helping him.
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>>74693901
samefagging canadian patsfag trips. one of you is mayo/sean or whatever who's dad killed himself because he realized what a faggot of a son he produced
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>>74695090
>year of our lord 2020
>brady retires
>bill belicheat coaching 1 more year
>convinces rivers to go to the pats
>win owl

it'll be like junior seau and it wouldn't make me mad
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>>74695090
>Dak

with that O line they'll probably recreate the 90s cowshits dynasty, of course after the Pats fuck off in a few seasons.
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>>74695421

I was not same fagging tranny. I literally(Spartan) am a name fag. I was meme fagging artistically and metaphorically.

And u best bring your best memes if u wanna fuk with me nigga. Chat shit get banged.
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>>74695737
i didn't realize canada allowed niggers in its borders
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Help! i've fallen and i cant get up
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>Seattle fires Haushka, takes on Blair Walsh
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME? WALSH?
I was all for bringing in competition for Haushka. He had struggled and needed a boost, but he wasn't that bad. And for Walsh??? Statistically one of the worst in the league. The vikings dropped him for a reason.
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God damn, the Ravens seem like their gonna be shit this year.
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>>74695989

They're
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>>74695845

You got schooled and outmemed my son. And could not even pulled an honorable retreat for your mistake. A wise man knows when to dance, and when not to dance my nigga.
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>>74695989

that's 120 million for you.
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>>74694850
58-0
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>>74695989
they've been shit since after 2014
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>>74696011
9fag is -->
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>>74695956
He was the Seahawk's MVP in 2015.
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>>74695989
Mine nanners with the solid center trade!!!!!
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>>74694984
>#1 patriots

ahahah!

Cooks is a poor man's DeSean Jackson, only runs deep routes
Ealy is an overrated prune who couldn't breakout on a stacked carolina front 7
Gilmore was average at best in 3 seasons for a great bills defense

Hightower isn't even a top 10 linebacker and Bill forked over 10 million KEK
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>>74695989
>this year
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:^)
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>>74696062

www .translifeline. org

It gets better my nigga.
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>>74696243
Forgot to say, they paid 60 fucking million for an average corner and allowed their best tackler and solid coverage corner to leave.
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NFC East
1. Giants 12-4 (2)
2. Cowboys 10-6 (5)
3. Eagles 9-7
4. Redskins 6-10

NFC North
1. Packers 12-4 (1)
2. Vikings 8-8
3. Lions 7-9
4. Bears 3-13

NFC West
1. Seahawks 11-5 (4)
2. Cardinals 8-8
3. Rams 6-10
4. 49ers 5-11

NFC South
1. Falcons 11-5 (3)
2. Bucs 10-6 (5)
3. Panthers 8-8
4. Saints 6-10

AFC East
1. Patriots 14-2 (1)
2. Dolphins 8-8
3. Bills 7-9
4. Jets 4-12

AFC North
1. Steelers 11-5 (3)
2. Bengals 7-9
3. Ravens 6-10
4. Browns 6-10

AFC West
1. Raiders 11-5 (2)
2. Chiefs 10-6 (5)
3. Broncos 8-8
4. Chargers 7-9

AFC South
1. Texans 11-5 (4)
2. Titans 9-7 (6)
3. Colts 7-9
4. Jags 4-12
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the draft should have 74 rounds like they did back in the good ole day
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>>74695265
more than five less than 7

so about 4 million more than he's worth. unless they seem to be paying people millions of dollars to ride a bench so maybe its the gameplan.

>pic related is Adrian Peterson negotiating his contract by screaming at the larger man front office and repeatedly slapping and bullying them into a contract because YOU DONT APPRECIATE ME how could you look at that fat piece of shit RB?
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>>74694984
>Rasm better fa than nanners
Dude lmao.
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redpill me on zuttah, pls
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*
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>>74696089
underrated
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>>74696243
Name 10 ILBs better than Hightower
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>>74696494
ur bad at this, proper form:

Big Guy = Vikings FO
dumb bitch = Adrian Peterson
giant broccoli = Raiders
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>>74696110
>Steve Young won a Superbowl
>nobody questioned Montanas legacy

>Rodgers won a Superbowl
>nobody questioned Favres legacy

>Garoppolo wins a superbowl
a) brady overrated BTFO! system exposed!
b) they give credit to Garoppolo and move on

Which would happen? also if Luck wins 2 owls for the colts what do they perceive of Mannings legacy?
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>Doesn't hate the patriots but now respects them
Have I matured /sp/?

>inb4 I still browse this board so no
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>>74695956
you know it was payback for a playoff win. enjoy blair.
>walsh returns to form and just lights up 50+ yard FG's all season and wins them the owl off a 56 yard FG in a tie game with 4 seconds left

fuck.........just hold me....let me die...
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>>74696532
>>74696532

pls respond
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>>74696656
Outside of trolls it will be (b) also Steve Young was despised by a lot of hardcore nanner fans who were convinced if they had just a bit more of Montanas post season meme magic they would've had 2 or 3 more owls. Guess we'll never know.
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>>74696532
I thought he was pretty good every time I watched the Ravens but the Ravens fans seem not to like him, so I don't know
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20 QBs better than Troy Aikman

I'd put Aikman in the 21-25 range. I'm absolutely certain I can think of 20 QBs who were/are better than him.

In no order:
>Brady
>Rodgers
>Montana
>Tarkenton
>Young
>Favre
>Staubach
>Peyton
>Rivers
>Roethlisberger
>Bledsoe
>Elway
>Marino
>Unitas
>Bradshaw
>Brees
>Moon
>Kelly
>Fouts
>Cunningham

Any disagreements?
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>>74696532
It's butter from Zimbabwe, but is usually only about 50% actual butter. The rest is usually horse fat, sawdust, and dirt
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Is Greg Zuerlein the best kicker in the league?

He carries the rams offense nailing 50 yard fieldgoals like nothing. This guy is so unappreciated and deserves to be on an elite team.
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>>74696682

na u gatta hate them or football is no fun
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>>74694321
>jostens has yet to release the new ring design
life is pain

>>74694499
look at jimmy
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>>74696772
I was too young to be following football at the time, wasn't it because he supposedly couldn't beat Favre in the playoffs?
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>>74696656
(c) BB is lord
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Should any team even try next season? Pats are gonna win again


It's no fair
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>>74696772
>Montanas post season meme magic

I forgot Montana got blown out by the Giants twice
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patriots draft McCaffery, Kupp or Hansen, Davis Webb, Alex Anzalone or Ben Gedeon, Nate Gerry or Weston Steelhammer, Bolles or Ram or Lamp, Ryan Glasgow or Hunter DImmick

I guarantee you one of those guys or maybe even 2 or 3 is going to be drafted by team white power

>if I was a borderline UDFA white guy all I'd do is start circulating a rumor I was jewish and post a few pics of me in a yarmulke on instagram
instant 6th or 7th round pick
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>>74696841
Yeah him and dallass
And it didn't help that Montana turned a KC roster of literal who's into contenders immediately while young was getting stonewalled in the playoffs with a top two NFL roster. The best wr. The best dual threat RBs (Craig/rathman)(watters/rathman)
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>Brady will be 6-2 in superbowls
>he will have attended twice as many as Montana
>80s era autists will grasp any excuse to why Brady is not GOAT
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>>74696932
Nah only once really. The other time he got broke by a cheap hit so was denied his opportunity to come back
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>>74693961
Talib couldn't control himself while on the pats. He had a lot of bad penalties for stupid shit.

He ran too hot even if he was good
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>>74696828
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>>74696919
>Favre has a GOAT season at 39
>goes to shit the following year
>Manning has a GOAT season at 39
>goes to shit the following year (wins an Owl the Trent Dilfer way)
>Brady has a GOAT season at 39
>???

I'm really just hoping here because Patriotswinlol is an episode I've seen too many times.
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If BB and Brady are GOAT, what does that make Coughlin and Manning?
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>>74696992
How do the Giants defeat all the elite QBs but lose to Dilfer?
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>>74697078
The BOAT
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>>74697078
Simms/parcels 2.0
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>>74697078
smart
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>>74697093
They have the most influential owner in the NFL
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>>74697078
i'll take people who havent won a playoff game in over 5 years for 50,000 lex
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>>74697093
Cuz they finally met a bigger defensive bully. It took the goat d to fuck up their ball control philosophy.
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>>74696943
is this pic real?
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>>74697073
Favre got beaten the fuck up and Manning was floating ducks getting his receivers killed, those two didn't actually and statistically improve like Brady has over the past 5 years
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>>74696983
the go-to reasons will be >18-1 and that Tom didn't win them all, period. That and postseason Eli/Giants/Coughlin etc.

>>74697093
they ran into a top-5 all-time (merger) defense with Kerry Collins behind center. Ravens win 9/10 times, even with Dilfer... in fact, I think I'll try a 100-trial sim now to see if that's true
>tfw autims
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>>74697255
no this is the real pic
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The Pats will return to the Owl:

Yes/No
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>>74696494
>feminismrealized.webm
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>>74697257
Besides they didn't sell their soul to Satan incarcerated (bb)
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>>74697327
>Satan incarcerated
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>>74697327
>incarcerated
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>>74697302
No

Godhand Tony Romo is going to Houston where he will tear the AFC's butthole raw.
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>>74697392
lel
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>>74697327
>Satan incarcerated
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>>74697327
someone please shoop BB behind bars with devil horns and a jew hat
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>>74697073
>>Manning has a GOAT season at 39
Wrong.

Manning had the record breaking season at 37. He retired at 39 after having played like shit for almost 18 months
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>>74697302
This the year they choke bad. This is the year the ship sinks. Everyone and their mom is betting they win it all but this is the fucking end. 18-1 part 2 is here boys and it comes in the form of an 8-8 season. Fucking cap it.
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>>74697469
>animated_pepe.gif
>not animated
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>>74693216
3rd I think

Collins 12.5
Kuechly 12.36

then Hightower's averages out to 10.8 a year

just ahead of Bobby Wagner's
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>>74696243
Can literally taste your tears through the screen
>>
Who wants to see Brady vs Dak in the Owl?
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>>74697647
Brady!
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>>74697647
I'd rather see a Patriots/Eagles rematch to be honest.
>>
>>74697647

Not Pittsburgh fans.
>>
Next owl is going to be Patriots vs either the Lions or the Cardinals.

They are the only animal NFC teams that haven't played the Patriots in the owl yet.
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>>74697647
Skip Bayless certainly doesn't
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>>74697647
>Dallas literal who DBs trying to contain that offense to 40
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>>74697701
He's picking a Dallas-New England Owl every single year. And he already picked them to meet in the next one
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1. Myles Garrett, DE, Browns
2. Deshaun Watson, QB, Redskins (trade with 49ers)
3. Jamal Adams, S, Bears
4. Solomon Thomas, DE, Jaguars
5. Jonathan Allen, DT, Titans
6. Marshon Lattimore, CB, Jets
7. Malik Hooker, S, Chargers
8. Leonard Fournette, RB, Panthers
9. Reuben Foster, LB, Bengals
10. Corey Davis, WR, Bills
11. Derek Barnett, DE Saints
12. OJ Howard, TE, Browns
13. Mike Williams, WR, Cardinals
14. Dalvin Cook, RB, Buccaneers (trade with Eagles)
15. Ryan Ramczyk, OT, Colts
16. Taco Charlton, DE, Ravens
17. David Njoku, TE, 49ers
18. John Ross, WR, Titans
19. Christian McCaffrey, RB, Eagles
20. Forrest Lamp, OG, Broncos
21. Malik McDowell, DT, Lions
22. Zach Cunningham, LB, Dolphins
23. Garret Bolles, OT, Giants
24. Quincy Wilson, CB, Raiders
25. Patrick Mahomes, QB, Texans
26. Cam Robinson, OT, Seahawks
27. Mitchell Trubisky, QB, Chiefs
28. Gareon Conley, CB, Cowboys
29. Tre'Davious White, CB, Packers
30. Takkarist McKinley, OLB, Steelers
31. Haason Reddick, LB, Falcons
32. Tim Williams, OLB, Patriots (I'm pretty sure this pick is going to be traded for Malcolm Butler)
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>>74695265
He can still be a decent back. That is until he gets hurt again.

I'm still trying to figure out what to do with my old 28 jersey. Should I donate it to a homeless shelter or something?
>>
>>74697682
If the Cowboys or Pats won SB 52, what would they post when they're losing an argument or after the team gets BTFO hard?
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>>74697733
Steelers fans already can't say anything towards the Pats, they've been completely and utterly owned by that franchise for almost 15 years now
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>>74697728
Raiders would take Reddick over Wilson I think
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>>74697758
They still try, bless their little hearts.
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>>74697702
Patriots defense is the poster of literal who.

Also Cowboys actually have good DBs, it's their line that's made up of random nobodies.
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>>74697800
>good DB
>Nolan Carroll
does not compute
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>>74697800
i cant name a single cowboys DB other than claiborne and hes leaving
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>>74697800
>Patriots defense is the poster of literal who.
wat

Patriots have 2 #1 CBs right now, two elite safeties, an elite inside linebacker and the best run stopping defense in the league.
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>>74697800
>Patriots defense is the poster of literal who.
Patriots defense aka the #1 scoring defense in the league
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>>74696983
>team sport
>tainted rings

You must think bradshaw is the 2nd best qb of all time then, genius
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>>74697728
>Dalvin Cook, RB, Buccaneers
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>>74697800
>Nolan Carroll covering Cooks
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>>74697728
bucs wouldn't trade up for a rb who may very well slide into the 20's especially when there's an arguably better rb who is still available

fuck off with this retarded bullshit that benefits no one but the eagles which (SUPRISE!) is why an eagles fan posted it, trying to project into the thought-space of people with intellect

fucking kill yourself you dipshit retarded tranny
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>>74697767
i actually forgot about reddick until i was finishing it lol. he'll probably go much earlier
>>74697800
>Cowboys actually have good DBs
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>ranked #1 in YAC
Would he be perfect for the Patriots?
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>>74697835
Sean Lee
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>>74697851
>>74697860
hmm, who to believe?

also if the second one is bucme you should stop being such a pedophile m8
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>>74697910
lb's are db's
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>>74697835
terence newman
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>>74697842
Name someone other than Butler and Hightower

They have a bunch of no names that come out of no where and consistently perform at a high level without prior notoriety.

They're famous for it.
>>
>>74697278
results of Gints-Blackbirds SB rematch sim. not exactly 9/10 for the Ravens, but they still whup ass
>>
>>74697909
Does he have any white relatives or jewish connections?
>>
>>74697920
>hmm, who to believe
how about you believe the one that posted something more substantial than a goddamn meme you dumbfuck tranny
>>
>>74697920

dipshit retard tranny
>>
>>74697927
Sean Lee plays everywhere.

Also the Cowboys had top ranked secondary.
>>
>>74697939
McCourty, you sound like you've been watching football for 2 years tops
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>>74697939
I could name over 20 others
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>>74697949
don't patronize me you piece of shit

i refuse to be mocked by the likes of you
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>>74697728
>4. Solomon Thomas, DE, Jaguars

still cool even though I doubt they'd be smart enough to not fall for the Fournette meme

Not sure if the Burrs would pick Adams over Thomas (or Allen) but it's a mock draft for a reason
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>>74697948
shoo shoo, pedo
>>74697974
tbf you're a fan of the team lol. not that the patriots don't have a lot of big name players, especially with the gilmore signing
>>
>>74697975

I never go to your store
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>>74697963
He's right tho. They rely heavily on low round players for skill positions outside some select big stars.

Offense and defense.
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>>74697994
>shoo shoo, pedo
HAHA IT'S A MEME

H A H A M E M E

>>74697995
i don't know what the fuck you're talking about so consider yourself dismissed from this discussion
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>>74698020

go talk to retarded trannys then badass
>>
>>74697996
it's not true. their starting D in the super bowl were drafted in these rounds

4 2 1 5
1 1 2
U 1 2 3
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>>74697996
So you're not a star if you don't get drafted high?

Is Sherman a no-name?
>>
Do the Pats have a chance at a repeat?

Brady getting old scares me
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>>74698020
kek, knew it was you. try being less obvious m8y
>>74698049
they're literally the favorites for the owl this year
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>>74698049
you betcha. 2001-04 all over, even if we break the AFCCG streak afterwards I'll be happy.
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>>74695090
>anyone starting for the browns
lol the browns will win this year
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>>74697996
>on low round players
Patriots 2017 starters on defense project to be Ninkovich, Brown, Branch, Flowers, Hightower, McClellin, Rowe, Gilmore, McCourty, Chung + a TBD slot corner

5 of them are former 1st round picks, 3 of them are former 2nd round picks
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>>74697728
The juice is on the loose
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>>74698105
interesting how Butler isn't on that list. not on it until he's out of limbo with the possible saints deal?
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What's that mock site that lets you trade?
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>>74698045
He was, now he's not.
>>
>canadians need a website to be allowed to mock trade
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>>74698136
I'm pretty much resigned to losing him at this point
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>>74698175
What's your address
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>>74698138
http://first-pick.com/
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>>74696243
I'm a falcons fan and pats hater and even I can call out this shit bait
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>>74698176
god I hope not. we might actually lose to the saints if brees plays another year and butler spills the beans on our playbook
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>>74698202
35 pennacook street manchester NH
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>>74697909
Did he marry Elise yet?

My parents share the box with the Pollards at UW every year, was always so weird seeing her without Golden at the games she did show up at.
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>>74698204
Thanks
>>74698243
I'm coming to beat the shit out of you
Zip code?
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>>74698243
ayyy manchestah. I'm up near the great north woods
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>>74698239
I hope not either but honestly, it seems like the most likely scenario at the moment

There are even reports that he'd have been part of the Cooks trade had he signed the tender earlier
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>>74698265
03104 bring it pussy cancuck

>>74698269
I want to move up to lebanon, sick of these fucking heroin junkies
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>>74698270
considering the nature of the cooks trade as is, i think it's incredibly likely that butler was included as a future addition as a caveat for the saints. you'll probably get the 32nd overall back, and he'll go down to NO.
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>>74698287
I haven't been to Manchester in like 15 years

they still got a Ground Round in the mall?
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>>74698287
>I want to move to Lebanon
lol no you don't. trust me, we have heroin up here too
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>>74698304
No idea, I haven't been to the mall in years

>>74698317
I mean it's the east coast theres heroin everywhere, at least in lebanon I can live in the woods
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>>74698301
It seems that way. I wish Bill just gave him the $10m a year that he wanted before Gilmore signing
>>
Bold Prediction:

The Browns shock the country and make the playoffs for the first time in forever this season. Kessler has a respectable season behind an incredibly improved o-line, and their d-line pulls out a top 5 performance.

Less bold prediction:

They lose that playoff game
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anyone wanna lay Zeke predictions here?
with the previous white woman trying to shake him down (even though it was a blatant stab at him) just doing it set the wheels in motion for him to be banned. whether or not she's full of shit.
>people comparing it to gronk motorboating some chick at a bar
come on

anyways it was a dick move on his part anyways so while she was just some fun bag hot chick only there for the reason of showing her tits, Im gonna say that it seems to have enough traction from a few groups already.

I'm gonna say mandatory sensitivity classes, and if he misses one then he misses games.

then again I wouldn't be shocked if NFL caves and gives him a 2 to 4 game suspension right before the season starts because people are already on them to do something and they are just the most complete corporate scumbags that would sell someone out to protect themselves from any fallout if faggots whine enough about it.
but Im gonna stick with a bullshit mandatory womens whatever classes and real public apologies with some volunteer charity events. aka nothing. but rest assured im confident something is gonna come of this.

>nigs gonna _____
to lazy to fill out the template right now
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>>74698380
blame his retarded agent for trying to get one over on BB. dude isn't even a real agent, he's a lawyer who watched hard knocks or whatever
>>74698381
>Kessler has a respectable season
who exactly is he throwing to?
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>>74698404
Britt probably
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>>74692262
Does /nba/ realize the significance of this?

The defending champs, winner of2 in the last 3 years, is not only locking up their keys players long-term, but also picking up more key pieces to win with moving forward.

I hope you're ready, /nba/. Barring injuries, we're looking at an unprecedented dynasty in the making. Hell, even injuries may not stop them considering one of the greatest pass catching tight ends of all time sat on their sideline last year while they won #5
>>
>>74698415
ouch
>>74698446
>an unprecedented dynasty
they've literally already done the exact same thing before in 2001-2004, how old are you?
>>
>>74698243
03102 west side here
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>>74698478
looks like a stale pasta to me, po-po
>>
Why would the Pats trade Butler if they have all the leverage in keeping him from the Saints?
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>>74698532
cuz he's unhappy in NE
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>>74698446
I'm not saying he will, but whats BB's gameplan if Brady hits the age wall?
You know BB has got to have a backup plan. Jimmy G? You think he will draft a new QB?
>>
>>74698540
So what, they can keep him and let him walk after the year or sign him then
>>
If there was a team named the whiteskins would it be racist towards

>Whites
>Non-whites
>not at all
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>>74698540
He's said he prefers to stay in NE multiple times throughout this lol

He even said he wants to be a Patriot for life just the other day.
>>
>>74698550
bill doesn't want players who won't be giving their maximum effort on the team tho.
>>74698568
it's not NE per se, you may have misunderstood. he's unhappy with his contract
>>
Round 3 Pick 8: Ryan Anderson, OLB/DE, Alabama (B)
Round 3 Pick 32: Gareon Conley, CB, Ohio State (A+)
Round 4 Pick 11: Chad Hansen, WR, California (A+)
Round 5 Pick 19: D'Onta Foreman, RB, Texas (A)
Round 5 Pick 39 (COMP): Ryan Switzer, WR, North Carolina (B)
Round 6 Pick 16: Jalen Reeves-Maybin, OLB, Tennessee (B+)
Round 7 Pick 21: Garrett Sickels, DE, Penn State (B)


Pretty Elite if i say so
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>>74698578
I highly doubt that a year before walking into FA that he wouldn't be giving maximum effort
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>>74698568
Bill should just pay the guy. He wants, what, $10 million a year?
Just eat the $6 million this year and consider it payment for Super Bowl XLIX.
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>>74698564
No one. It would be seen as a lame attempt by people to come up with a derogatory term for white people. There is 0 historical significance behind it.
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>>74698544
He has a third-stringer in Brisket and a break-glass-in-case-of-real-fuckin-emergency man in Edelman. He's all set for backup QBs.
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>>74698596
this. there's already wigger anyway to describe white trash/nignog wannabes.
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>>74698591
idk, i think his track record is good enough that some team would still sign him even if his play takes a hit. plus they could just point to his situation being bad
>>74698598
he means backup QB as in long term, not rn. brisket isn't a viable option for that imo, and edelman certainly isn't
>>
is joe flacco a elite quarterback?
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>>74698592
>Bill should just pay the guy. He wants, what, $10 million a year?
Apparently he wants Gilmore money now
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>>74698612
well then yeah of course it's Jimmy. I think he's ready to go any day now in terms of taking the reins from Brady, but he'll need to go the Rodgers route and clipboard for a third year (fourth?) until Tom really is done for, which could be any day now for all I know.
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>>74698624

elite at getting paid
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>>74698624
Three words:
$120 million
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>>74698624
flaccoeatinggummibears.jpg
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>>74698649
thats five words
>>
>"Butler is unhappy in NE"
>A guy who won 2 championships in 3 years of being in the league is "unhappy in NE"
>A guy who would be a literal who nobody if not for Belichick's coaching genius setting him up to make one of the most iconic and decisive interceptions of all time is "unhappy in NE"
lmao what even did he mean by this?
>>
>>74698667
one-hundred-twenty million dollars
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>>74698667
one-hundred-twenty
million
dollars
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>>74698693
He's not unhappy in NE. He's unhappy with the contract that NE is offering him. He wants to stay but he also wants to get paid.
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>>74698693
read >>74698578 and stop sperging out
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>>74698701
>>74698721
thats five words
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>tfw nobody is calling at all still. Even for a backup.

Halp me please Jets,
Halp me Broncos!
Call me please!
BlackLiesMatter!
>>
>>74698723

Its the same shit as Bouye

when you're undrafted you want that big contract even more, he hasnt made shit.
>>
>>74698776
>>74698723
can't have it all in NE. Bill will make sure of that.
>>
>>74697078

The answer to a trivia question 20 years from now.
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>>74698812
Savage
>>
Cooks is a pretty-well spoken guy, doesn't sound like somebody who will chimp out if he doesn't get 100 yards a game
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>>74698776
But UDFA contracts are only 3 years compared to 4 years for most draft picks.

If Butler signs the tender and plays on it then he will have earned more over his first 4 years in the league than Derek Carr who was drafted early in the 2nd round the same year Butler went undrafted
>>
>>74698872
i don't think he sees it in that way at all though. for players i think the most important thing is annual value, and he probably wants a contract similar to gilmore's. pats aren't likely to give him that
>>
>>74698404
Personally I'm hoping the Browns pick up Evan Engram.

Coleman, Britt and Engram would be enough for a respectable season provided the protection is as good as it looks to be
>>
>>74698872

He still didnt get paid shit for 3 years.

But he did better than most UFA's since he gets playoff games
>>
>>74698404
Coleman Gordon Britt barnidge, the strength this year will be the run game at least
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>>74698753
its a compound word
>>
what did jourdan lewis mean by this
>>
>>74698935
i dont know. why dont you tell us jourdan lewis?
>>
>>74698898
I know he doesn't, just pointing out that the good UDFAs aren't exactly strapped for cash compared to high draft picks by the time they hit unrestricted free agency
>>
>>74698842
isnt that why he wanted to get of new orleans
>>
>>74698901
>>74698920
i'm not sold on corey coleman yet. i think a lot of his early production was due to the attention pryor commanded.

drafting engram would be huge though. he's a freak athlete, probably a top 3 TE in this class. browns have 2 second rounders, right?
>>74698935
>beating your GF before the draft
not a very good call
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Bored and drafting.
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>>74698955
Rumored yeah, but he didn't strike me as someone who is super selfish

I'm sure winning will help prevent that like it did Bennett
>>
>>74699024
>san diego
>>
are we gonna get a Tunsil JUST draft day spectacle this year guys? I really hope so.
and why dont tv channels ever play the Joe Mixon video? talk about it but never show it.
>>
>>74699051
They moved back.
>>
>>74695273
he actually didn't show up to pick it up, he does not have a ring.
>>
>>74699054
honestly who gives a shit?

if you want to see the video look it up on tmz or youtube or some shit

I'd rather them talk about what the kid actually is as a running back rather than everyone's 2 cents on him hitting a girl.
>>
>>74695956
>not that bad
he missed so many huge kicks last year, and so many extra points. he was fucking garbage.

blair was just in a slump, he's a top 3 kicker when not in a slump. haushka was a fringe talent even at best.
>>
>>74698970
Yep, they have 33 and 52. Before FA, I had wanted them to use 33 on the best center available, but seeing as they took solid care of it, I'd love to see it go to Engram. He won't be there at 52
>>
>>74698955
He had a welcome conference call today and said that he didn't ask to be traded.

Not saying that he definitely didn't, just repeating what he told the press/fans/
>>
>>74699090
walsh has always been an overrated kicker

he has a huge leg but misses way too many chip shots
>>
>>74698842
That was racist
>>
>>74699103
true I'm not saying he won't be a good patriot, he hasn't been part of the days when the saints were good so maybe winning will make him happy but I just remember reading reports about him wanting more targets. I don't watch many saints games so I don't know.
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if tom cable was good at something other than beating his wife he would switch to a power-run scheme instead of the zone-blocking meme that none of our linemen can learn how to do properly
>>
>>74699101
yeah engram would be great value at 33. a tight end who's 6'3", runs a 4.45, and has a 36 inch vertical? he's just a redzone monster and matchup nightmare waiting to be drafted
>>
>>74699133
Yes.
>>
>>74699174
where's Njoku gonna be drafted, around the same place as Engram?
>>
>Free agent NT Dontari Poe left his Dolphins visit without a deal.

the cross-country eating tour continues
>>
>its another maliciously accuse someone of domestic abuse just so their draft stock plummets episode
>>
>>74699174
Little nitpick, but he ran a 4.42

He was faster than every TE and all but four receivers
>>
>>74699207
nah i think he'll sneak into the first round. didn't test as well at the combine, but he's still a physical freak who blocks better than engram, and his stock has remained pretty consistently high. engram might end up being better though, i really like how he plays.
>>74699221
god i'd love it if the eagles could replace logan with him. way out of our price range, though.
>>
>>74699263
Well, Bill's first pick is in the third round this year.
>>
tfw 19-0
>>
>>74699283
for now....
>>
Thots on McCaffrey possibly going to da Eagles?
>>
>>74692987
>Ravens dump starting C Zuttah, saving $2.39M

Thank the lord. If the Ravens had a decent center their front line would go from barely mediocre to excellent. Flacco would go from looking like Eli Manning to looking like Peyton Manning.
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Who the fuck gave the Browns Houstons 6?

I missed Swag fucking Kelly because of it


Also Houston's draft position sucks a dick
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>>74699268
jesus, yeah i misremembered. TE class was historically great at the combine this year, gonna be a good draft for those lacking one.
>>74699319
i think it would be a reach at #14, but i'd LOVE a trade down for him. i really think he could be wentz's brian westbrook
>>
>>74695265

>mfw he's in prison 10 years from now like his daddy because he can't pay child support

The watermelon doesn't fall far from the rope
>>
>>74699353

I remember I told you Engram was basically a wide out a wideout

The combine did confirm that, iggs should pick that fucker up
>>
>>74695265
He'll meme it up in dallas
>>
>Ezekial pulls down some chicks shirt while being on charge for domestic abuse
Hmmmmm
>>
>>74699353
>no girl will ever look at me that way
>>
>>74696110
If you think Zuttah is a solid center, you're wrong. I really hope he works for you, but the guy spent more time in the backfield than the RBs.
>>
>>74697909
>Hawks picked Harvin over Tate

Pcjs fucked up
>>
Spitballing here.
Supposing they recoup the 32nd from NO.
Would TJ Watt be a fit for the Pats?
He has the size BB likes in a linebacker.
He adds youth and talent(?) to a position there is not much at the moment.

Or is he over hyped because of the name?
>>
>>74699490

hes actually good, and he'd fit well there
>>
Would you want AP on your team if he signed a *very* team friendly deal?
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>>74699353
We're getting Blount 2.0 but quicker perine
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>>74699506
Eagles
Sure if he doesn't want as much as ryan Mathews rn and we don't draft anyone for whatever reason
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>>74699453
what way? her face shows no emotion at all
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>>74699400
i'd love him on the team, but he'll likely go before us in the second, and it's not like it's a huge need for us anyway. maybe we look into leggett or hodges or someone later in the draft
>>74699515
perine is dope, i'd take it. conley is a reach though imo, and you have to be out of your mind to take jones in the 3rd
>>74699526
lol fuck out of here with that. i don't want that shithead who can't pass block or receive
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>>74699541

People who can catch foosballs is a perrty big need there
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Oh, that's right. The game isn't even over yet. In fact, it's only halftime. Does not having the lead at halftime count as a loss? Is that what you're saying? Because if you're saying that I can assure you that you're wrong. Why would you make this topic when the game is still on? The Chargers are still playing right now and they have been the best team in the AFC West for how many years now? They're playing one of the worst teams in the NFL who just happen to have a lead because they're feeding off the energy of playing in a Monday Night Game. But you know what? They still fucking suck. The Chargers are one of the best fucking teams in the NFL, they went 13-3 last year and would of won the Super Bowl if the kicker didn't choke. Maybe you should shut the fuck up before you make retarded topics like this. You know why? Because you're going to be embarrassed when the Chargers win and someone bumps this topic. Oh look at that, the Chiefs just stepped out of bounds short of the 1st down when they needed to get one, just like the Jets did. Are you a fucking drunk? Are you retarded? Are you autistic? You are a fucking idiot and you should never make a topic on this board again and I'm fucking serious. I almost have a feeling you're the only guy making all these anti-Chargers topics because you're an autist who doesn't like the team because they're good. Fuck you, be good at something in YOUR life and then maybe try to troll these fucking teams on the board, like I give a fuck. It's so easy to spot out your threads now, you're a retard. Always doing stupid shit like this. Why don't you try to be a good poster? Just for once? For once in your fucking life try not to make a topic like this. That's just you, you're always right at getting it wrong. Fuck you. You are nothing.
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>>74699537
look at how intently she's looking at him. her eyes basically scream "rape me"
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>>74695265
maybe he'll go to green bay as a reminder of the Favre situation
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>>74699600
you need to go outside more
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>>74699559
at WR maybe. i'm content with ertz and burton going into next season, and we are still paying celek a lot for some reason. i'd rather spend the first couple picks on CB/RB/WR than a TE, even one like hodges. engram would be tempting though, he plays like a WR but he's massive.

who do you think would be good to target in the later rounds at DL? we're going to need depth this year
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you now remember MoBo
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Pats had the most fumbles this season
What the fuck
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>>74699661
late round DL doesn't look very good. After the 3rd/4th you will probably end up with a player who will get cut.
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>>74699672
I actually don't
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>>74699702

Benching them works!!!
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>>74699672
Motherboard?
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>>74699702
A lot of them came on special teams. Cyrus Jones was fumbling every other kick return. Also Jimmy and Brisket combined for like 6 fumbles in the first 4 games
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>>74699702
Most of them were on special teams but the RBs fumbled a lot too desu
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took my mock in a bit of a different direction.

decided to upgrade from Bennie Logan in a big fucking way that will not actually happen. but still, i could fuck with this.
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>>74699799
Blount, Lewis and White only fumbled 3 times in the regular season and the Pats had the 3rd most rushing attempts in the league
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>>74699658
i need to go hang myself t b h
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>>74699837
I take that back, >we had a fuck ton of special teams fumbles then.
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Who is the dumbest tripfag here?
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>>74699916
that Baltimore game still pisses me off it should have never been that close.

Houston in the playoffs... if Houston had an actual QB they probably would have won that game. thank goodness Lewis had 3 TDs
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>>74699952
Police12
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>>74699952
they're all dumb in that they act like they're team is the best even when they have a shitty season. old bay is a shining example
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>>74699952
a tie between all of them
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>>74699952
Old Gay or Tiki
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#47
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>>74699952
P12
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Pats to win owl
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>>74700001
wait, he changed his number to #88 anyway. shit
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>>74699952
Sneak

>>74699825
>White falling that low
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>>74700000
>>74799999
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>>74700001
so, so close

>>74700000
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>>74700038
such is the life of an eagles fan
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>>74699952
That one vikings trip
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>>74700053
>superbowl38finaldrive.webm
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>>74700071
excuse me, 39
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>there are people in 5 different regions of the country who have committed suicide directly because of this man
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>>74700071
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>>74700034
Filthy kike, what do you think Bill does with Butler?
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>>74700029
This. This SO hard.
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>>74700133
DESU famalam that panthers team was just happy to be there
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>>74700133
source?
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>>74700148
Stop replying to yourself
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>>74700133
blitz for six
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>>74700178
Its hard to believe the pats still aren't first in owls feels like they are a good team every year
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>>74700146
Keep him on a bargain salary, let him go if he asks for money. Despite being a very good corner, butler isn't as valuable to the defense as D-mac or hightower. He isn't a shutdown corner, but he is a very good corner. That's worth something to Bill, but maybe not quite market value. He is a hard worker, which Bill likes, but he's no prime Revis or anything like that. That being said, I hope we keep him because he is a hero,
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>>74700167
Okay, Sneak.
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>>74700198
Soon
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>>74700219
my friend told me today that he thinks the pats should look into signing revis as a safety since they have the cap. i don't think bill would touch him now though
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>>74700230
Shouldn't you be watching march madness or whatever you do to keep yourself from ending your pathetic life
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>>74700219
>butler isn't as valuable to the defense as D-mac

Nigger we've been bitch and moaning for a great corner since a decade ago, Bill better offer something fair.
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p12 is a very smart non tranny
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>>74700250
Revis is donezo, his body is shot and he's had more concussion problems than the media has let on.
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>>74700254
floridas teams are garbage just like in NFL
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>>74700283
>Florida
He's a packer fan
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>>74700265
He's a very good corner, but not a great corner. Bordering greatness, but we'd have to see a spectacular season from him to prove that. His clutch factor does elevate his value for sure though.
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>>74700294
yes but he lives in florida
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>>74700230
Kill yourself you fat pathetic little creep

What kind of straight MAN plays new pokemon, watches sweaty black men push eachother around and works for minimum wage at a night salad bar?
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>>74700279
that's what i told him, but he seemed to think that he still has something left and that he was just lazy in NY cuz they paid him out the ass. he might have a point considering that he's only 31, but i just don't see it happening anyway.
>>74700309
lol he's like a top 10 corner in the league tho
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>>74700275
Skip, you are the man! Love the new show on FS1!
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>>74700310
Wait why does he root for the packers if he lives in Florida?
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>>74700333
because hes retarded and florida teams are garbage as i mentioned earlier
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>>74700309
His skill is already great imo, it's his size hurting him. That's why Bill signed Gilmore to be the next Browner.
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>>74700331

Troy Aikman is a homo.

Trust me... I have "sources"
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>>74700352
But don't they have to pay jimmy g or do they believe the Brady won't decline in his 40s meme
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>>74700352
That's a pretty accurate analysis. He's fantastic on your OBJ and Antonio Browns, but is outmatched physically on guys like Julio Jones, although that guy's a freak of nature.
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>>74700364
see >>74696813
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why does mike tomlin still have a job?
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>>74698935
reminds me of when Shane Ray got caught speeding with weed literally days before the draft
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>>74700364
Aikman is too nice to be gay. Most gays are bitter and sarcastic for seemingly no reason.
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>>74700417
rooney rule
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>>74700383
Cut that low test fag solder
Brady retires
Ninkovich is a "veteran" at this point, cut

Plenty of cap. Bill will extend him midseason because lot of QBs hit FA in 2018.
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>>74700417
probly because they've never had a losing season with him
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>>74700417

what the fuck is he supposed to do?

Ben isn't what he used to be and they give him Landry Jones to play the 1/2 the games ben misses.
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>>74700417
Muh owl when Brady tore up his knee
Muh Rooney rule
Muh leader of men
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>>74700417
>>74700448
>>74700488
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>>74700481
ben's regression isn't even the biggest problem though, the defense is just so bad. must be infuriating for old people who grew up on the steel curtain to see how shit this team plays on D
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>>74700422
>Most gays are bitter
truth

>>74700393
Butler was great against Green

6'4 but he's soft as fuck like DT.
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>>74700535
Artie Burns and Sean Davis alone must give them conniptions
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>>74700535

I wouldn't call the D bad, but it could be much better.
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>>74700393
Butler has never played well vs brown, the afccg they sold out to stop ab and he still had 60ish yards and the year before he gave up 100 yards and a td. Also obj had like an 80 yard td on butler like on the giants first play.
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>>74700535
That tends to happen when you draft
>Le pacy spook meme
but no brains.
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>>74700587
>Artie Burns was a first round pick
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>>74700595
That Giants/Patriots game was fucking good.
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>>74700595
Butler won 2/3 versus brown

And after the OBJ TD ( which was McCourtys fault btw ) he gave him the hardest game of the season and stripped that late TD
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>>74700417
Tbf if it wasn't for Peyton Manning and Tom fucking Brady he would probably have 4-5 superb owl appearences.
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>>74700592
just compared to how they used to be though, even like 6 or 7 years ago. i admire the ability to transition from being a defensive minded team to a wholly offensive one, but the league is so offensively-driven that you need to invest capital on that side of the ball, which they have done poorly. not saying it's tomlin's fault that they haven't done that, but he could use his pieces better imo.
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>>74700610
>play zone coverage frequently
>Draft 2 CBs that struggle in zone coverage
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>>74700595
hard to make a tackle when the safety runs into you.

he was otherwise solid against OBJ
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>>74700655
>Tbf if it wasn't for Peyton Manning
I think you mean Tim Tebow
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>>74700650
also I think Butler had two interceptions called back because of penalties.
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>>74700662
What I wouldn't give to see sproles on our team.
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>>74700671
thats like 50 penalties on the giants for being on the field/on the white line
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>>74700662

It is really weird that a team which murders you through the air has such shit DB play.

That shit is garbage
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>>74700679
what a great moment that was

the peak of Tebow magic
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>>74700689
preach it. we haven't seen an elite RB in, what, the 12 years since Corey Dillon retired?
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>>74700705
That's probably what saint fana wonder every day
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>Seahawks Super Bowl hopes depend on Eddie Lacy losing weight

Are we doomed?
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>>74700662
That was one really bad game. The defense as whole got better throughout the season untill getting eviscerated in Foxborough. Tomlin gets crushed for not beating Belichick but really besides a few meme years no one really has.
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>>74700689
>>74700734
you can't have him, the saints are OUR best friends now
>>74700736
there's a difference there though. the steelers just can't draft DBs for shit anymore, whereas the saints just give contracts to the wrong players.

>locking up jairus byrd and letting jenkins walk
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>>74700662
I actually think Bens actual game has aged much better than Rivers or Eli, he wasn't this good a passer when he was younger but his body just can't take a lot of punishment anymore.
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>>74700679

>Pittsburgh wins that Tebow game
>They would probably have to play New England in the AFCC later (I don't remember the seeding)
>Pittsburgh wins the game against Manning two years ago
>They would travel to New England for the AFCCC

The Broncos saved the Steelers from further Patriots embarrassment twice. I'm almost disappointed.
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>>74700758
I want him big, Anon
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>>74700681
I just remember the bullshit PI where he didn't even touch OBJ, just stepped in front of him and obscured his vision, then OBJ fell backwards to try to spot the ball and butler got flagged for it.
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>>74700783
didn't Jenkins wash out of NOLA tho
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Hi
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>>74700794
As a steelerfag myself I have often contemplated this.
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>>74700853
Hello loins
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>>74700861
DESU the steelers have given me my worse losses as a jest fan, I wonder what if in 2004 and 2010 all the time
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I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE DRAFT AND THR SEASON REEEEEEE
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>>74700913
>mfw if the steelers could have just beat the patriots in 2004 we would have won the owl
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>>74700894
Let's talk football
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>>74700948
Bilal Powell> Barry sanders
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>>74700939
Pennsylvaniab Owl would have been pretty cool
>the Eagles win this game in an alternate reality
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>>74700948
Deep down I actually like the lions a lot. If you could have one elite player added to your team at no cost, who would it be and why?
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>>74700817
The other 10 said the defensive starters and their coordinator were all garbage, making him look bad
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>>74700948
nice holding
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>>74700939
>beating rookie Ben

Literally only Belichick knew how to stop him and it was his 2nd try.
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>>74700965
stop
>>74700972
bilal powell or kuechly as long as he's guaranteed not to retire
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>the only man to lead a 15 win team to a one and done
>cried Brett Favre made fun of him in the locker room
>run out of the play offs twice by Kaepernick
>throws 2 INTs and loses after being gifted 5 turn overs by his defense against Seattle
>needed a hail mary play to beat the former 0-16 Detroit Lions
>btfo by Matty "blow a 25 point lead" Ice
>zero SB appearances since 2011

is he finished?
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>>74700968
it could have happened in 2004 or 2008, but we only really had a chance of winning in 2004 prob.
>>74700996
>rookie ben being the reason that team did as well as it did
tip top kek

he was a massive jerome bettis/defense babby that year
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>>74700948
Abdullah is elite
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>>74701024
yes
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>>74700671

Last season mercifully lacked them but the 2015 season had a ton of bullshit catch-no-catch calls.

This was one of them and it all culminated in the Super Bowl with the Bert Emmanuel-tier no-catch call on Jerricho Cotchery.
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>>74701045
That was a good game.

For the Chargers, I mean.

Then the rest of that season happened.
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>>74701063
>Blow big lead
>Start season 1-7

It was for the best
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>>74699952
Tie between OldGay, Bucme, and Irrelevant
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>>74701103
>those 3 saints

Kek
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Good Franchise Conference

- Steelers
- Patriots
- Cowboys
- 49ers
- Packers
- Giants
- Broncos
- Raiders
- Redskins
- Dolphins
- Colts
- Ravens
- Rams
- Seahawks
- Bears
- Chiefs

Bad Team Conference
- Jets
- Buccaneers
- Saints
- Vikings
- Bills
- Eagles
- Falcons
- Panthers
- Bengals
- Titans
- Chargers
- Cardinals
- Browns
- Jaguars
- Lions
- Texans
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>>74701159
>good franchise
>bears
yeah, that one superbowl in 800 years sure is stellar
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>>74700352
>His skill is already great imo, it's his size hurting him.
this, very few elite corners who are Butler's height (5'9) stay elite for long. Also, Gilmore is nothing like Browner, he is tall with elite quickness which Bill covets in CBs. Both Gilmore and Rowe were very fast in the 3 cone and shuttle iirc, as was Talib.
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>>74701205
butler is 5'11" tf are you smoking
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>>74701199
desu thats why i put them near the back, who from the bad conference deserves to be promoted in their place?
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>>74701205
I meant browner as a means to stop tallniggers from jumping our manlet corners.
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>>74701221
listed height isn't always accurate but regardless hes not a big corner by any stretch
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>>74701199
I imagine they are there to even it out. I mean, looking at the bad team conference there isn't an obvious one to fill the gap in its stead
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>>74701241
>mfw watching SBXLIX on TV
>kyle arrington getting molested by a dude who would later get cut from the ravens practice squad
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>>74701273
Because Arrington was trash, he'd be shit for 15 games, have one decent game then get exposed until we lost in the playoffs.

also the ravens signed him but he missed the season.
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>>74701273
give the seahawks as much shit as you want for the butler int but the way they exploited that mismatch with a guy who doesn't even belong in the league is probably the most underrated aspect of why that game was so fucking good.
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>>74701223
vikings maybe
the have the highest winning percentage of any team to not win an owl, 8th best winning percentage of all time, 7th most playoff games
they have never really been consistently bad.
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>>74698612

Every report is that the Patriots staff really really likes Brissett, I think they're going to use him as leverage next season and attempt to lowball Jimmy G on a two or three year contract to remain Brady's backup.
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Now that the 2015 draft class has two years under their belt, how are your team's picks doing so far?

>Flowers
Trending towards bust
>Collins
Elite
>Odighizuwa
Pretty good but hurt a lot
>Thompson
Hasn't played
>Davis
No longer on the team
>Hart
Stinks
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why do people act like goff is a bust? he has barely had any time to prove himself
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>>74701392
>Tomlinson
bad. hopefully they can trade him
>Abdullah
ok when he isnt injured
>Carter
bust. probly gonna be cut
> Wright
cut now with the browns last i knew
>Burton
non-factor in this offense probly will be cut
>Diggs
ok but not great as a slot corner
>robinson
currently a depth guy

thank god mayhew is gone
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>>74701434
>couldn't beat out case keenum for a starting job
he has no one to blame for that but himself
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>>74701392
>Leonard Williams
Elite
>Devin Smith
Made of glass, most likely a bust
>Lorenzo Mauldin
flashes at times, but I'm starting to think he's more of a rotational pass rusher than a full time starter. Still like the pick though.
>Bryce Petty
Shit Bust
>Jarvis Harrison
No longer with the team
>Deon Simon
Did a really good job of filling snack's shoes last season.
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>>74701468
He was purposely benched you egg
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>>74701491
'no'
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>>74701392
>waynes
A little early to say for sure but he has been looking pretty good
>kendricks
really improved this year, looks to be a staple of the defense for quite some time
>hunter
motherfucking steal. Guy is likely to put up 20 sacks this season. Absolute monster and he is super young
>clemmings
embarrassment
>pruitt
he was probably worth the pick considering it was free and he was a physical beast that was worth looking at but didn't work out
>diggs
another absolute steal. really good work ethic, really good reciever, only issue is he can't stay 100% healthy
>thompson
meh
>dubose
bye
>shephard
another failed late round oline nothing to see here
>robinson
actually pretty decent, nice depth/rotational guy but thats all he will ever be
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>>74700595

>Butler holds 2 of the 3 best receivers in the entire NFL to mediocre games.
>OMG HE IS NOT THAT GOOD YOU GUYES

And in case you're wondering
1. Antonio Brown
2. Julio Jones
3. Odell
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>>74700662

Agreed. Pittsburgh's defense is hovering right around the bottom 10. They've also been progressively worse each of the last few seasons.
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>>74701392
>agholor
lel
>rowe
doing pretty well, just not with us
>hicks
unironically elite
>shepherd
off the team
>evans
off the team
>mihalik
off the team
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Can anyone post the the pic of the Jews being upset at Jesus for saying Wentz is better than Dak?
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>>74701555
kek

glad you liked my crap OC
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>>74701565
speaking of OC, anyone have the Welker/Moss versions of Bill Belichick contract negotiations (pic related) ?
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>>74701434
first overall pick comes with expectations, fair or not

I mean, Stafford had a really awful rookie year and he turned out mostly okay.

I think the reason people are writing off Goff is because he was one of the least hyped first overall quarterbacks I can ever recall. Most people thought he was a reach. Also doesn't help Wentz and Dak had better years.

the concerning thing is if the Goff is as dumb as some people say, because that's the main reason Jeff George and Jamarcus Russell(among one of his many many problems) busted
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>mostly okay
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>>74701392

>Brown
C+, underwelming for a 1st rounder
>Richards
Doesn't play enough
>Grissom
Bust
>Flowers
A+, better than Jones
>Jackson
C-, decent so far
>Mason
D+, great run blocker can't pass protect
>Cardona
B+
>Derby
Gone
>Roberts
good but gone
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>>74701679
you can't really be a bust in the third round
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>>74700948
this was a preseason game
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>>74701679

>Brown
Was good his rookie season, lost his starting spot this year to a rookie
>Richards
SPECIAL
>Grissom
TEAMERS
>Flowers
Hopefully blossoms into a 12+ sack guy next year
>Jackson
Shit
>Mason
He's alright
>Cardona
No issues so I guess it's a solid pick. Gost has been kinda rocky ever since he was drafted tho...
>Derby
Out
>Roberts
Out


Pretty shit draft
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>>74701705
you can, its just not as big a deal

around 40% of your third rounders should at least develop either into a starter or valuable role player.
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>>74701488
Is it common for teams to whiff on the second round or is that just a trend the Jets have had?
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>>74701768
what round is that that the jets always fuck up in? the 2nd right?

>jace amaro
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>>74701785
>>74701789
yeah fucking up the second round is a jets thing, david harris was our last good one, still on the team at least.
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>>74701789
>>74701768

Jace Amaro couldn't stay healthy and didn't end up fitting the scheme when Bowles came in.

How do you evaluate a players health? If you remember the Jets drafted Milliner first round and he was always injured, Devin Smith too in the second round. They had a history of injuries, so is it just a roll of the dice or did they legitimately think these players would stay healthy?
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>>74701392
>Fowler
glass bones and paper skin
>Yeldon
glass bones and paper skin
>Cann
bad
>Sample
glass bones and paper skin
>Greene
special teams
>Bennett
glass bones and paper skin
>Sterling
gone
>Koyack
should be gone
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>>74701848
Amaro was just a bust, not scheme related or anything. He's on the titans now and still sucks.

the whole 2013 class was full of busts so I don't really know about Milliner.

Amaro and Milliner were both Idzik picks so it doesn't matter now.

Devin Smith has a small build so there was some injury risk but he wasn't hurt this much in college.
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>>74701767
Make new thread
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>>74701636
Sad to see that 2 years of draft picks are almost all gone. Richardson is probably done after this season, unless they trade him during the draft. I also don't think Pryor is that good. Enunwa is great though, he's like my favorite player on the team a the moment.
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NEW THREAD

>>74702111
>>74702111
>>74702111
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>>74696813

You must be 17yrs old.
Aikman was an absolute beast.
Half of those faggots wish they had Aikman's arm.

We get it, you hated the Cowboys dominance of the 90's.
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>>74693604
http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2017/3/15/14938872/buffalo-bills-sign-wide-receiver-andre-holmes-oakland-raiders
>Editor's note: this article has been updated from the original to reflect new information showing Holmes had not signed a contract and explaining the situation. - MRW
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>>74696983

>Montana never lost an Owl
>Montana never cheated
>Montana didn't play in the QB-friendly era
>Montana never once got suspended by the league for integrity reasons


He will forever-GOAT.
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>>74695090
Based Siemian confirmed for GOAT.
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>>74694318
more total players are getting fat contracts
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>>74699537
Exactly. She's not looking away quickly. Her face shows no fear or revulsion.
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