Is he unironically the best player in the world?

>>74663433
Is that the pogba Guy you all seem to be always spamming on here?

He's no Pogba :-)

>>74663433
He is definitely in the top 3 defensive midfielders currently at the very least.

>>74663537
>top 3
who the fuck is better than him? verratti and who else?

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>>74663537
>defensive midfielder

now now, just because he's black doesn't mean he's French

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>>74663433
still gives it away too often

>>74663433
Does he dab?

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>>74663706

>>74663555
are you unironically retarded or don't watch football?

>>74663755
who else?

>>74663755
Good argument

*in the premier league

>>74663792
>>74663829
Casemiro? Most CDM's in the Serie A?

>>74663891
>Serie A

lmao

what is this, the 90's?

>>74663792

Nainggolan and Vidal

>>74663891
>casemiro
sure
>>74663975
nainggolan is better yeah. i'd disagree about vidal. it's not like any of them are demonstrably better than kante though.

>>74663962
I mean the league is mostly trash but defense wise it's still pretty good.

>>74663433
Yes. His Champions League performances are unreal. Literally.

>>74664007
>Your opinion is wrong

>>74663433
Depends. How many DPS? (*dabs* per second)

>>74664035
GREAT argument

http://www.strawpoll.me/12524312

Who was the better signing last summer lads?

If he keeps this up he just might get a move to La Liga!

>>74664033
>german humour

>>74664289
!

>>74663891
>Casemiro

when was the last time madrid kept a clean sheet or ever look solid defensively

>>74663555
modric

>>74664289
Could happen, both Real and Barca need a defensive midfielder

>>74664316
Literally two months ago
And Zidane starts with kroos modric most of the time anyway.

He is younger than Vidal, but he still not on his level. They are very similar in everything. But Vidal experience > Kante experience.

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no

kante is white though

>>74663891
>Most CDM's in the Serie A
KEK
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>>74663891
>Most CDM's in the Serie A?

yeah, sure.

I know he scored but it wasn't even that good today. He's had much better games.

>>74663891
>casemiro

w-what?

Hasn't even played CL yet. Or 2 times a week.

>>74666118
This. Watch him run off to another non CL club because he's scared of getting exposed.

In the PL, for sure.

In the world, no.

>overrating PL players again
lol this board

>>74663962
>i don't rate serie A

lmao what is this, the 00's?

>>74666118
this
He needs to show his qualities outside of the PL.
Harry Kane scores like a madman in the PL but underperforms in Europe

Black man taking no losses

>>74666184
Who cares about Europe, it's a rig show anyway

Nainggolan has gone beyond pleb DM game and become AM.

>>74663891
>Casemiro
>>74663975
>Naingolan
Holy unironic shit lads...Lay off the fucking pipe.

The only DM who's comparable is Vidal. And even Vidal doesn't register tackles like kante.

ballon dor top 3 should be: Messi Kante and Greasemann

>delusional eplel thread

>>74666420
>messi
lol

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>manure could've easily bought this pure world-class talent for less than half of the 100 million they spent on a dabbing twitter emoji

>>74669057
if you're going to be critical like that, at least be fair and apply "world-class" as a qualifier to "twitter emoji" too
I mean come on, he might be an average footballer, but he's really really popular

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>>74664007
>>74664316
>>74665654
>>74666282
/sp/ proving to be ignorant once more.

Casemiro is the player with more tackles per game in all Europe, you fucking retards.

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>>74664007
>>74664316
>>74665654
>>74666282
>>74669167

And where is Kanté? Yeah, down there in the fucking #16 position.

A shameful player t.bh.

>>74669084
i dont think you understand what world-class means if you think it would ever be applied to 100 million black ryan mason

All Kante needs is to control and pass the ball better. If he is doing the defensive duty, I'm not worried about him scoring goals.

Win the ball back, don't lose it, pass well.

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>>74669167
>Casemiro
>4.8 tackles per game
>Kanté
>3.6 tackles per game

Why even trying? Casemiro BTFO in the only skill that Kanté is good at.

>>74669167
>>74669182
>>74669204
>mins played

>>74669182
Kante avg rating 7.24
Casememo 7.22
Case dismissed.

>>74669287
>he doesn't know what per game means

>>74669300
>Casemiro
>better at tackles
>better at blocks
>better at clearences

not even a debate desu

>>74669204
>replying to yourself

tackles per game isn't the only relevant thing a DM does, and stats are fucking meaningless in football, but I wouldn't expect a dumb favelanigger who's country lost 7-1 on their home turf to understand that

dumb hue

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>>74669326
>canada

kek, here's your (you)

>>74669300
>granada
>leganes
>las palmas
My Nan could get 4.6 tackles per game against this fodder, and she's dead.

>>74669345
you sure told him
wait wait, you forgot to make a leaf joke

>>74669351
Well, Casemiro plays in a dominant league while Kanté plays at Eplel.

But here's your >Leganes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0L2v4p-R9k

>>74669369
>Easy interception after Messi mis-controls it.
>Capitalises on an attempted foul by Kroos, proceeds to feign injury.
>Goes through Messi to get the ball
>Worst first touch of all time by Neymar, easy tackle.
You're right, give him the balon d'or.

Plays like a true 100million dollar footballer

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>>74669413
>all these shit comments

now I want to hear you comments on this goal

problaby just capitalizing on the worst first touch of all time by james, right? or capitalizing on the worst pass of all time by benzema? you name it

>>74669596
>posts a blooter to prove he's a better DM
top kek, as they say.

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>>74669607
>prove
kek, who said anything about proving here m8? I just want to hear my lad's comment. since you aren't him, shut the fuck up.

--------Pogba-----------
Kante--N'Zonzi--Rabiot/Matuidi/Kondogbia

Scary t b h

Shocked Busquets hasn't even been mentioned once. Him and Modric are still superior, but not for much longer.

Kante needs to improve his passing. Seems to lose the ball when passing it. He's a workhorse so he typically tends to get it back or tackle the opponents, but his passing can be dire. Top 5 atm holding mids atm.

>>74669724
>Shocking
Not really, since /sp/ only watch eplel.

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>>74669596
>multi-million dollar player scores against literally who fc #6000001.webm

>>74669724
>Modric

Worse meme than Kante desu

>>74669750
>multi-million dollar

>Casemiro
>7 million
>Kanté
>35 million

BTFO once more.

>>74666282
>And even Vidal doesn't register tackles like kante.
Because Vidal have literally everything: Good Offense (he actually scores very often in Bayern), a God tier Defense, good passing, good tackles, key passes.

Vidal is a perfect form Kanté. Kanté is like cell but lacking 17 and 18.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qHq5_Eew8Q

>>74669753
modric is one of the most technically gifted midfielders around, he's an absolute joy to watch. what are you on about m8

Casimiro is fucking underrated but of course eplel pakis overate any decent player

>>74669724
Biscuits is past it t b h

>>74669167
>>74669182
Tackles are not a good thing, good players shouldn't be tackling at all no matter how good it makes fan feel and how epic last man saves are. You should use intercepts (where Kante still gets btfo)

>>74669724
biscuits is overrated trash. he is literally the most overrated player i know of.

>>74670333
That tackle by Moore though

>>74670333
intercepts aren't a good stat either because not every team plays tiki taka and DMs aren't going to get much intercepts against hoofballing squads. positioning is everything and that isn't really quantifiable

stats mean shit all in football

>>74666218
Doesn't mean the quality of play still isn't way higher. EPL's lack of technique gets regularly exposed in this competition recently for a reason desu

>defending became a meme
>goalkeeping became a meme
this is a midfielder-era again a la Patrick Vieira

>>74663433
No.
But he's up there. Counting on him for this worldcup

>>74669167
>Minutes played
Nice one retard.

How do you know if someone is good at soccer? Do you go by how many goals they score or what?

>>74669369
>Casemiro plays in a dominant league
>Kante plays in eplel
>His own teammate (Bale) says la Liga is shit and eplel is way harder
Take your faggotry elsewhere.

>>74669706
>Tfw France's midfield is going to btfo the WC
These hues keep talking.

>>74663433
He plays only in the third best league in the world. Outside of England, no one rates him yet.

>>74670660
EPL isn't the most technical league. Everyone knows this. What good is technique when MF/def will fuck you up.

>>74671062
If CR7, yes. Everyone else, it's more the eye test. Soccer doesn't really have too many useful stats yet. Moneyball is coming, though.

A fit Coquelin is better.

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>>74663537
>defensive midfielder

>>74670660
>>74671086
>EPL
What?

>>74663975
>Chelsea tried to sign Nainggolan but he turned them down
>Could have had Nainggolan-Kante midfield

WEW
E
W

>>74671062
kante is good but hes mostly rated because
>leicester with kante=champions
>leicester without kante=shit
>chelsea with kante=likely champions
>chelsea without kante=shit
its almost as stupid as the makelele case, but there you go

>never played CL football
>underperformed and benched at the Euro
get back to me once he does something outside of his babby league

He's good. And he works fucking hard. But even saying he's a top 10 midfielder in the world is a stretch.

Isn't there a comparison that shows that Herrera has better numbers than Kante?

Doesn't pogba have a better overall rating?

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>unironically
>proceeds to post an ironic thread

>>74670354
No, stats mean everything. The problem is that almost no one knows what questions they have to ask and the only ones who know how to work with stats in football are either working for clubs or writing papers in specific publications.

Football is not some mysterious super natural phenomenon, it's perfectly quantifiable.

>>74671527
>stats mean everything
The only stat that matters is the goals

>>74671527

YFW pogba is the 8th best player in the world according to STATS

https://www.whoscored.com/Statistics

>>74671566
So 7 places below where he should be?

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And this is a guy who brought him to English football.

Apologise.

>>74671566

I'm a huge United fan and KNOW he's not in the top 10. I'm just saying that stats aren't everything. How do you measure decision making? How do you measure vision?

Some things are more important that "tackles per game" or "interceptions".

>>74671527

maybe one day stats will be useful in football but the sheer number of variables and possibilities involved compared to a sport where stats really are king (e.g. baseball) makes it an incredibly difficult task

right now stats on their own are more useless than an eye test from some random drunk down the pub who has seen a player play once or twice

>>74671527
they literally mean nothing, the game is too fluid and too variable in play from team to team and league to league

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>>74671609
Credit to a wrong person.

>>74671813
It was Steve Walsh ya daft cunts, Wrigglesworth had already fucked off. Ranieri wanted Papy Mendy but Walsh showed him the light

any webm of the black guy?

>>74669182
>>74669167
>7.54
Whare are you talking about? This Gonalon lad is the best DMF in the world.

>>74672237
Walsh was the one who recommended
Wrigglesworth was the one who scouted him at first time in france.

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>>74673431
>Whare
wat

>>74663433
unlimited stamina: the player

mediocre positioning skills, below average passing

>>74663565
it begins