/nfl/: ELIte edition

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First for fuck my shit up

>>74661652
Please hoodie, pay hightower before paying butler. Butler is a very good guy and a hero, but Hightower is much more important.

>>74661652
Pats 19-0

>>74661652
>Leveon bell will be a what could've been player

>>74661912
If we don't keep hightower, the chance of this seriously decreases. The question at hand isn't whether or not we can, it's whether or not Bill is willing to go all in on Brady's last years for another shot at 19-0 or continue to be a frugal grabbler as he has always been.

So with the muh womyn emphasis the NFL is taking what's the likely outcome for Zeke?

Lads, ive figured out how Big Ben beat the rape charges.
http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/nfl-pittsburgh-steelers-news/2017/3/13/14903698/ben-roethlisberger-gets-to-see-fruits-of-his-foundations-labor-with-k-9-police-units-cape-coral

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Eagles

>>74661945
The longer he goes without signing the more likely it is that he re signs

And Bill is clearly not being frugal, this is the most aggressive he's been in a few years

>>74661937
wait, so he's out the first 6 weeks of next season too? Probably just wants to be able to smoke weed and not worry about it.


>>74661961
Literally nothing, he's a young black star RB who plays for dallas, he isn't Ray Rice.

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WHAT UP AFC

>>74661987
with romo we might just be able to stick it to the pats

>>74661972
True, the cooks signing was key. Brady with a real receiver is just plain scary. He was able to do what he did last year with Hogan, edelman, malcolm mitchell and amendola.

>>74662015
But Brady has no long ball

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>John jerry and dj fluker
Jesus christ Reese what the fuck are you doing

>>74661652
>KC:So long, Dontari? Chiefs sign Bennie Logan
Chiefs Eagles broship is real

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>>74662010

>>74662015
Dola is getting cut I think
>>74662033
Shut up you don't know anything about football

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Happy to have Peppers back, but for the love of pepe, please draft Dalvin Cook and not Fournette

>>74662057
I'm not wrong though

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>>74662033
Ill take your bait

>>74662033
>t. didn't watch last season

Tied 1st in TDs on deep passes in 12 games
Tied 2nd in passer rating with le chuck it to Julio man

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/play_finder.cgi?request=1&super_bowl=0&match=summary&year_min=2016&year_max=2016&game_type=E&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&week_num_min=0&week_num_max=99&quarter=1&quarter=2&quarter=3&quarter=4&quarter=5&tr_gtlt=lt&minutes=15&seconds=00&down=0&down=1&down=2&down=3&down=4&yg_gtlt=gt&is_first_down=-1&field_pos_min_field=team&field_pos_max_field=team&end_field_pos_min_field=team&end_field_pos_max_field=team&type=PASS&is_complete=-1&is_turnover=-1&turnover_type=interception&turnover_type=fumble&is_scoring=-1&score_type=touchdown&score_type=field_goal&score_type=safety&is_sack=-1&include_kneels=-1&no_play=0&order_by=yards&more_options=1&rush_direction=LE&rush_direction=LT&rush_direction=LG&rush_direction=M&rush_direction=RG&rush_direction=RT&rush_direction=RE&pass_location=DL&pass_location=DM&pass_location=DR#offense::11

>>74662072
Had one of the best deep balls this past season without a top receiver. Get fucked

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>>74662052
D E V I L I S H

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DeMarcus Ware retired

>>74662076
your file name doesnt even make sense, weddle is a white safety

>>74662061
Thanks for the loan, shame to see him spend his last years with his hands in the dirt, but at least he's home

>>74662061
Although cook is more athletic and can catch the ball
Fournette is a pounder with the rock and I feel will have a better carrer being a stocky north and south runner
How do you feel about Cruz he visited weeks ago but nothing ever came of it

>>74662072
>Best QB on go routes (min. 10 targeted attempts): Tom Brady, New England Patriots

>“It is no coincidence that Chris Hogan was the most successful receiver on go routes when you look at how effective Tom Brady was throwing the route. Brady was PFF’s highest-graded QB on go routes, completing 20 of 48 passes for 660 yards, 6 touchdowns, and a QB rating of 119.8. Brady was second in QB rating, third in touchdowns, third in completions, and second in yards on the go route. Brady was eighth in completion percentage at 41 percent, but was fifth in adjusted completion percentage at 48 percent due to his receivers dropping three passes. He had great success on the go route versus the Cover 3, as 7 of his 13 passes resulted in either first downs or touchdowns, and one of his incompletions was on a miscommunication.”

>>74662095
>>74662086
>>74662076
It's just not true

>>74662124
You're wrong though

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>>74662051

No mention that we got back the GOAT?

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>>74662086
That fucking url

>>74662161
;)

>>74662190
:*

>>74662177
It's because of the filters, pro football reference is great but extremely autistic to share as a link

>>74662086
>http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/play_finder.cgi?request=1&super_bowl=0&match=summary&year_min=2016&year_max=2016&game_type=E&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&week_num_min=0&week_num_max=99&quarter=1&quarter=2&quarter=3&quarter=4&quarter=5&tr_gtlt=lt&minutes=15&seconds=00&down=0&down=1&down=2&down=3&down=4&yg_gtlt=gt&is_first_down=-1&field_pos_min_field=team&field_pos_max_field=team&end_field_pos_min_field=team&end_field_pos_max_field=team&type=PASS&is_complete=-1&is_turnover=-1&turnover_type=interception&turnover_type=fumble&is_scoring=-1&score_type=touchdown&score_type=field_goal&score_type=safety&is_sack=-1&include_kneels=-1&no_play=0&order_by=yards&more_options=1&rush_direction=LE&rush_direction=LT&rush_direction=LG&rush_direction=M&rush_direction=RG&rush_direction=RT&rush_direction=RE&pass_location=DL&pass_location=DM&pass_location=DR#offense::11

Nice

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come home bby

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>It's a Steelers sign another Pats secret agent who goes back to NE halfway through the season with all our playbooks to ensure Pats domination for another 5 years

Getting real tired of this meme

My flights going to start boarding in 5 minutes but I really gotta poop guys
Wat do

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>Tom Brady on deep passes: 53-107 (49.5%) 12 TDs 2 INTs 1607 yards (15 Y/A) 125.0 passer rating

>yfw Gronk and Cooks next year

>>74662269
But he literally doesn't have a long ball

>>74662259
>who goes back to NE halfway through the season
i dont think it works that way. unless they're retarded enough to release him halfway through the season

>>74662260
hold it in, run to the bathroom on the plane after you get boarded and pray nobody else had the same idea

or pull off a light speed shit

>Sportscenter: Breaking: After 12 seasons in the league, DeMarcus Ware has announced he's retiring.
>Sportscenter-Breaking: After 12 seasons in the league, DeMarcus Ware has announced he's retiring.

>>74662321
I camp out when I do the deed
Boarding now, wish me luck

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>>74662086
this is why I quit trying to post Pro football reference stuff...

I mean look at that garbage.

>Matt Ryan has Julio jones and Sanu
>Brady played 4 less Games and had 30 year old white manlets
>still an argument over who did better
Hmmmm

>>74662103
Yeah, he only has 2 solid years tops left though; beats being optimistic about some mediocre rookie or 2nd-3rd year no-namer though

>>74662121
Cook is a bigger, potentially-stronger version of Jonathan Stewart. His size will likely make him less prone to injury, which is what the Panthers need for their offense, a versatile back that can get to the outside but also ground n pound

Cruz would've been a nice addition, but there's a lot of room for improvement with youngins like Benjamin and Funchess; still have Olsen a for a little for the time being, too

>>74662076
that was an average "long-ball" with a lot of air under it

ZEK DID N O T H I N G WRONG
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>>74662620
He went too far this time trying to prove everyone hes not gay

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>tfw

>>74662679
The shithawks couldn't even beat the Panthers in 2015 lol

They were getting embarrassed before they took their foot off the gas

>>74662733
Wow, that's a sick burn.

Hey, which one of those teams made the playoffs? I can't remember.

>>74662679
Future hit it first

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>>74662762
>Just future

>>74662679
i wish what happened to bridgewater would happen to every black QB

>>74662679
His wife turns out the lights and pretends he's Tom Brady.

https://www.instagram.com/p/xsgUFzyHpY/

>>74662679
why is someone so religious with a person that is going to hell?

>>74662837
>MY GOODIES
>NOT MY GOODIES

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>>74662831

>>74661976
6 weeks starting now I think

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V I K I N G S

>tfw haven't won a championship in over a month

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>>74663122
Life is suffering.

>>74662033
He somehow learned to throw deep last year. He was only shit at it in 2009-2015

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>Favorite player retired today

>>74663269
That's literally not true

>>74662076
thats a medium ball with a long run

>>74663269
having no deep threats =/= having a shit deep ball

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>>74663269

>>74663589
No

>>74663269
2012-2015*

He had one of the best deep balls in the league between 2006-2011

>>74663314
Ignoring this yeah, he has consistently been shit at it compared to his short-intermediate passes. Moss bailed him out constantly in 2007.
If he was better at it instead the short routes, he would throw deep a lot more.

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>>74663269
also "2009" lmfao

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About to get wisdom teeth pulled thqh famn.

>>74663677
>hideously overthrows WR.
>bailed out though because Moss.

this doesn't help your argument.

>>74663677
STRAIGHT CASH, HOMEY.

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>>74663710
top lel

who are you again?

>>74662076
>nobody within 3 yards of the receiver
did brady throw any deep balls into coverage last year?

>>74663646
Between 2006-2011 on deep balls Brady was
>4th in TD passes
>7th in completion%
>5th in yards per attempt
>3rd in passer rating
Pretty good for someone who's shit going deep

>>74663841
only counting players with relevant sample sizes of course

> Turbin back

Fuck yes! Now sign back Butler, both big contributes

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>They will never a ring with Dallas

this really hurts guys

>>74663905
why did the colts let mike adams walk? he was like one of their only not shit defenders last year. too old?

>>74663677
I wonder what it's like to throw to Randy Fucking Moss.

Like damn, he could make me look good in the pocket.

Not taking nothing away from Tom tho

>>74663905
Stfu

>>74663710
Moss was almost out of the league when that happened, try again

>>74663946

Too old. I actually agree with you, it hurt me when he left but I hope Ballard have a reliable SS, cuz Green is shit for now and Geathers gonna be playing LB when he back.

>>74663697
be sure to buy lots of ibuprofen

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>literally half of the cam sacks are from the owl
lol

>>74663989

Forehead! My nigga what up. Still dickriding Brady?

>>74664079
Never sacked Carr?

TYBC

>>74663841
is this pfr 15 yard deep ball?
anything under 20 is mid range at best

>Jets looking up for Josh McCown
McCown is a decent QB that might work for some teams, but why are the Jets so into picking up old QBs?

>>74664079
>play for denver more than one season
>only sacked Rivers once
how?

>>74663942
Just let me meme, man.

>>74664087
Colts are shit

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why wasn't Vick banned for life?

>you have to pay to get access to Player Grades on PFF

haha what a fucking joke

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>>74664238
>ben actually raped a human
>vick gambled on animals fighting

>>74664238
>defending a rapist

>>74664269
>>74664280

ALLEGEDLY

How many Patriots fans ITT were a fan of the team before Brady?

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>>74663062
The biggest mystery to me is what happened to Treadwell?

>>74664355
bust

>>74664355
Nothing, he was always a bust with his 4.6 speed.

>>74664355
he doesn't want to play for the vikes. Looked pretty pissed actually iirc when he was drafted

>>74664355

Swag Kelly babby

>>74664355
>drafting Ole Piss players
>ever

>>74662259
>secrets
1. Le'veon Bell takes the handoff and waits for 3 seconds, then runs.
2. Ben takes the snap, waits until Brown gets open, fires a dragon.
3. Zone Blitz

What did I miss?

>>74664355
chad kelly babby

>>74663817
oh wow you proved Brady can throw a whole 20 yard pass.

>>74664401
>>74664420
Chad is a bust too.

>>74664431

He's gonna go in like round 6, if he ever wins a game he isnt a bust

>>74664429
bit underthrown too

>>74664429
literally a 40 yard touchdown pass you sperg
>>74664431
pretty much this >>74664470, he's a late round pick after his injury. i think he's better than a lot of guys who will go before him tho

>>74663817
That's a pretty shit velocity.

>>74664327
zero.

>>74664401
might be good.... maybe.

but yeah College just isn't producing QBs anymore, looking pretty grim for the NFL in the near future.

>>74664493
>he's better than a lot of guys who will go before him
He's maybe better than Mahomes.

>>74664327
Well sonny, I was a fan when Grogan was the qb and Lofa Tatupu's dad was their fullback.

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>>74664503
40 yards, in the snow. no one is arguing that brady has a cutler-esque cannon, but he pretty clearly can throw the ball deep well enough when he needs to.
>>74664530
they're pretty similar actually. huge arms, simplified offenses. biggest difference is kelly's injury

>>74664577

The biggest difference is Kelly played for 2 more years.

He's much more "pro ready"

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>>74664514
>College just isn't producing QBs anymore
Good! Maybe the NFL can go back to being a RB dominated league instead of this homosexual chuckfest.

>>74664079

Some good names on there. Forgot all about Jamie Martin and Tim Rattay and Kevin CornKolb

>>74664269

Yes, and Michael Vick should fucking hang for it.

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>>74664592
i agree, and i think if his 2016 was anything like his 2015 he'd be a top 3 QB in this draft. but it really wasn't, and the class is weak in general, so people like mahomes get upjumped based on a smaller sample size
>>74664645
top lel

>Adam Caplan @caplannfl

>BREAKING Former @Browns QB Johnny Manziel arrested for DUI and drug related charges in Miami FL, per source

>Adam Caplan @caplannfl

>BREAKING Former @Browns QB Johnny Manziel arrested for DUI and drug related charges in Miami FL, per source

>Adam Caplan @caplannfl

>BREAKING Former @Browns QB Johnny Manziel arrested for DUI and drug related charges in Miami FL, per source

THE RIDE NEVER ENDS FOR JOHNNY FOOTBALL

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>>74664595
>read that as homosexual cuckfest.

I should take a break from pol.

>>74664700

Based Billy

>>74664700
Damn, if only Jerruh got him and turned his life around.

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>>74664645
I'm not black or a Vick fan but I think dog fights should be legal again, it's no coincidence that our society lost its balls around the same time we banned it.

>>74664720

I just realized it didnt say that when you posted this

>>74664677

This years QB class is perfectly fine, everyone is just retarded

>>74664700
How fucking stupid do you have to be in this day and age

I've done more drugs than I can count in the past year of college and not once have I gotten anywhere close to getting trouble

Have these niggers not heard of Uber? There's probably one for millionaires to take so they can get as fucked up as they want

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>>74664745
lel
>>74664769
i mean the biggest thing is that people expect these guys to perfectly adjust out of college, and rate them based on that. guys like kizer and mahomes or whatever could obviously become very good QBs based on their situation, i.e. sitting behind palmer for arians or something.

but when a guy like trubisky who has 13 college starts is the top guy, it just means that there's a dearth of talent at the top. i think this class has good depth, but there's no guys like winston or luck or cam, which to most people means it sucks.

>>74664700
will anon fall for every fake tweet?

>>74664826

A big part of the problem is only Luck should have been a #1 overall.

QB hungry teams reached for them like with Goff, and drafting poorly doesn't make the draft class better. But people act like it does for QB's.

>>74664826
Johnny's biggest problem is he was from a super rich oil family and his parents never told him "no"

>>74664870
you don't think cam should have gone 1st overall? i remember watching him at auburn and just thinking what a monster he was

and yeah i completely agree. last year's class was no better than this year's probably worse because the depth was such garbage. but since QBs went 1 and 2 people will retrospectively act as if it was better. whereas the 2014 class was supposedly not very good but it could end up having two above-average starters who weren't even taken in the first.

>>74664870

>Luck could have avoided the Indy Dumpster Fire and won an Owl already
>All he had to do was not be a fuckboi and leave Stanford early and let the Panthers draft him
>But since he didn't want to go to Carolina, he gets stuck in faggotland and he'll never win shit.

Serves him right

>>74664923

This is a common misconception.

Mommy and Daddy told him no all the time, but then Johnny went to Grandpa and he gave johnny anything he desired.

>>74664938

>Cam #1

FUCK NO. As a Panthers fan, we should have picked Von Miller or Patrick Peterson or Julio Jones. Period. Fuck that stupid cunt Cameron.

We could have had Russell Wilson (who played at NC State) the next year. Fucking faggots had to go pick the stupid blue gum Auburn QB

>>74664938

Fuck no Cam was not the best player in that draft, he was a good player but not the #1 overall. The Panthers just needed a QB.

There was
Miller
Watt
Julio (Probably a better prospect they're close)
Wilkerson
Houston

All should have gone before him. But he's a QB and they came from stacked positions so were overlooked on top of that.

Plus there's more that you could argue were better picks.

>>74664938
>Black QB #1 overall

no

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>tfw you niggas and transexual liberals dont think this guy is any good even with him making OWL saving catches or TDs in last 2 OWLs. Even with him helping inspire Brady and others on that team with his personality. Even with HOF Deion Sanders publicly calling him awesome on NFL Network and saying he gets overlooked by liberal media and discussions bc of "reverse racism".

He basically made it by hard work and determination too. And his name literally means "Noble Man".

I bet for those that call him shit , your names mean cowfucker.

>>74664989
hingsight, the post

>>74664966
who would you be starting at QB, derek anderson? don't give me that wilson bullshit, your team passed him up twice like everyone else.
>>74664989
panthers wouldn't have had any of the success they've had without a cam-tier QB though, and there haven't been that many in the seasons since. it's nice to pretend that hindsight is anything other than revisionist history, but come the fuck on, no one in the world would have taken wilkerson or houston over cam.

>>74665010
>photoshop.

>>74665024
>>74665014

They fucking measured well and were good.

No one would take them that's the point, they all will reach for the QB. They reach for the QB everytime.

Its not like Cam puts up good numbers or ever did. He was a fucking meme before his one good year and now he's back to his old shit.

Better players will always get passed in the hopes of a winning QB.

>>74664327
I became a fan when they went to the Owl against the Packers

>FA:Anquan Boldin plans to return for 15th season

I know he'd never come back to Baltimore because of the way he was treated after the Superbowl but this makes me so happy

>>74665070
to say cam was a reach is a 100% hindsight when most people had him #1 on their draft boards

and to pretend the panthers would have won more games with julio or justin houston is 100% bullshit

>>74665070
wilkerson and houston were not "better players", you're being absolutely ridiculous. they were late first round talents who have flourished in the NFL. cam was one of the best players in all of college football, has an MVP and several playoff berths, and has had more success by any metric than either of them.

you should have stopped at miller/watt/julio lel.
>>74665107
that would be huge for the ravens if he did come back. he's unironically still one of the better possession WRs in the league

>>74663912
>Never win a ring with Romo*

Fixed that for you.

>>74665070
To be fair, the QB is sort of the center of a team.

Like imagine if Huston for example did not have a Watt(you get to keep Clowney) , but had a QB that was elite at his position like Watt is, where could the Texans be?

That feels like a weird comparison, but I think you get it.

>>74665024

Derek Anderson balled for the Browns. I think he should start right now. Fuck Cam.

>>74665142

I get it, but that doesn't make the QB the best player in the draft, it makes the highest priority.

>>74665129
I disagree, a late first like wilkerson flourishing is bad drafting/scouting

Good college qbs=/= good nfl qbs

>>74665122
This requires too much hindsight to figure out, they could have had a better QB in a later draft. They could not have, who knows.

>>74665177
that's a pretty dumb opinion, but i guess it's just the standard overreaction from a fan. without cam you wouldn't be relevant at all since 2003 lmao.
>>74665196
obviously, but cam has been both a good NFL QB and a good college QB.

drafting wilkerson or even watt would have also been silly because they had charles johnson and greg hardy. you could make a case for julio or von, but neither of them were as highly regarded as cam, and steve smith had great years with cam anyway. really just seems like people are using hindsight to try and discredit one of the best panthers draft picks of all time.

>>74665177
i agree. just look at this win he earned for the browns

http://www.espn.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=291011002

>>74665129
Na I don't see it. Fucking trading a guy who was one of the best players on your team for 3 years and pretty much won you a Superbowl for a 6th round pick creates a lot of bad blood. Besides he would count against our comp pick formula and we already signed Woodhead and Jefferson who weren't cut I don't know if we go for a 3rd but if we do it'd be Morris Claiborne

Guys I think we have a better chance to pick up are Nick Mangold (long shot) or more likely King Dunlap. Eric Weddle tweeted pic related just after he was released and the Ravens just cleared 3.2 Mil cap space by rescinding RFA tenders to two guys

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>>74665129
>>74665259
My bad here's the tweet

Dude helped recruit both Woodhead and Jefferson for us they both even said so at their introductory news conference. Could definitely see him coming in at RT for us

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>>74665259
>>74665287
yeah it's pretty unlikely, which is a shame. flacco needs that security blanket, and pitta is kind of a red flag to me still.

can't believe mangold still hasn't signed anywhere, dude is still one of the top centers in the league. dunlap could be cool though, wouldn't cost much either.

>>74665287
>Could definitely see him coming in at RT for us

Don't know why you'd want him.

Funny, though, how Weddle took a lesser contract with the Ravens than what he was asking for with the Chorgers.

>>74665247

I'm not saying it was a bad pick, I just dont think he was the best player in the draft.

He wasn't a bad pick, he was what they needed, it doesn't make him the best though.

He is a good player, he is not a great player. And tons of people said
>lel black qb enjoy sub 60% completion rates.
Which has held true. He brings more than that but he wasnt perfect or the best.

>>74665010
Based Edeljew

Daily reminder that the Chicago Bears and Minnesota Vikings wasted a first round draft pick on Kevin White and Laquon Treadwell

>>74665196
but the thing is certain positions have more inherit value

a fullback might be the best fullback in his class by far but it'd still be idiotic to take him in the first

cam might not be elite but he is a franchise quarterback so I don't really think he was a reach because to a lot of teams they'd rather have a B QB than an A Cornerback just like you'd rather have a B cornerback over an A fullback.

>>74662061
I'm happy if the panthers make it to the playoffs

>>74665297
Mangold is likely just taking his time with visits and seeing where other players go before making his decision

Only thing that sucks is that I haven't heard any news of teams he has visited with or who's interested. Heard Cardinals had heavy interest but that was two weeks ago. Haven't heard anything since

>>74665301
Because he's only 31 and has been a very good pass blocker at times in his career. He reminds me a lot of Bryant Mckinnie

>>74665318

I dont disagree with the pick.

Most QB's are overrated because of the position and are not the best players picked. They will always get overrated, but a team reaching for one doesn't make the QB better.

Its not that teams should stop this, but a team spending a #1 on the 12th best player doesn't make the 12th best player the best player.

The whole argument started over people thinking a QB class is good because a bunch of teams reach for QBs. Which they do. It might be a good idea but teams not reaching for QB's doesn't make QB's bad either.

r8 B12
1. Cleveland Browns: Myles Garrett, DE - Texas A&M
2. San Francisco 49ers: Deshaun Watson, QB - Clemson
3. Chicago Bears: Mitchell Trubinsky, QB - North Carolina
4. Jacksonville Jaguars: Jonathan Allen, DT - Alabama
5. Tennessee Titans: Mike Williams, WR - Clemson
6. New York Jets: Marshon Lattimore, CB - Ohio State
7. Los Angeles Chargers: Jamal Adams, S - LSU
8. Carolina Panthers: Vidauntae "Taco" Charlton, DE - Michigan
9. Cincinnati Bengals: Reuben Foster, LB - Alabama
10. Buffalo Bills: Quincy Wilson, CB - Florida Corey Davis, WR - Western Michigan
11. New Orleans Saints: Marlon Humphrey, CB - Alabama
12. Cleveland Browns (from PHI): Malik Hooker, S - Ohio State
13. Arizona Cardinals: O.J. Howard, TE - Alabama
14. Philadelphia Eagles (from MIN): Leonard Fournette, RB - LSU
15. Indianapolis Colts: Dalvin Cook, RB - Florida State
16. Baltimore Ravens: Dereck Barnett, 3-4OLB, Tennessee
17. Washington Redskins: Zach Cunningham, LB - Vanderbilt
18. Tennessee Titans: Malik McDowell, 3-4DE - Michigan State * I wanna give them Corey Davis / John Ross for keks and giggles
19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Cam Robinson, OT - Alabama
20. Denver Broncos: Ryan Ramczyk, OT - Wisconsin
21. Detroit Lions: Gareon Conely. CB - Ohio State
22. Miami Dolphins: Jarrad Davis, LB - Florida
23. New York Giants: David Njoku, TE - Miami
24. Las Vegas Raiders: Christian McCaffrey, RB - Stanford
25. Houston Texans: Jabrill Peppers, S - Michigan
26. Seattle Seahawks: Forrest Lamp, OT - Western Kentucky
27. Kansas City Chiefs: DeShone Kizer, QB - Notre Dame *i honestly dont fucking know given possible choices. Or pretend it is corey davis/john ross, doesn’t change the rest of the picks
28. Dallas Cowboys: Carl Lawson, DE - Auburn
29. Green Bay Packers: Jalen “Teez” Tabor, CB - Florida
30. Pittsburgh Steelers: Takkarist Mckinley, EDGE - UCLA
31. Atlanta Falcons: Jabrill Peppers, S - Michigan
32. New Orleans Saints (from NE): Solomon Thomas, DE - Stanford

Tom Brady

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>>74665367
>24. Las Vegas Raiders: Christian McCaffrey, RB - Stanford
yes pls

Demarcus Ware just retired. :(
MY TEAM IS A SINKING SHIP.

What do I do, senpai?

>>74665367
>7. Los Angeles Chargers: Jamal Adams, S - LSU

I'm OK with this.

>>74665361
but playing the most important position often does make you the best player

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does anyone have the sean peyton pepe? please post it i need it for my collection

>>74665397

Only if you're good at it

>>74665410
say what you want about cam but his best season by far resulted in the panthers going to the super bowl where as JJ watt's best season where he got mvp votes they went 9-7 and missed the playoffs.

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Is it 2013 again?

Am I young again?

>>74665010
I love Minitron

>>74665367
I don't see how Fournette slips to the 14th.
Liking the pick for Indy, even if he is slightly prone to fumbling the football. I am good as long as they don't get another fucking WR.

>>74665441
wasnt that Kyle Orton?

>>74665440

Is Cam.... Dare I say it......

The best football player of all time?

>>74665367
really not high on two QBs going in the top 3. also not sure if taco goes that high, especially not with solomon thomas on the board.

fournette will probably go earlier lol, but i can see the fun in mocking him to us. also are the bills taking wilson or davis?

i could see the titans taking davis, they lost out on the WRs on the market. not sure about robinson to the bucs, but it's not impossible.

chiefs are pretty set with smeth for now, so i doubt it's QB in the first. probably a linebacker like haason reddick.


otherwise it's good though, except thomas falling that far.

>>74665455
Yea Orton ended up starting and the Cowboys lost by 2 points lel

>>74665467
no but Tom Brady is

it's a lot harder to win with a shit qb than a shit defensive end

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQlKncVdShE

Everyone who says Brady doesn't have a long ball is baiting and should be ignored.

>Jason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora
>Eagles announce the release of Chase Daniel one year after making him one of highest paid back-ups in NFL. PHI signed Foles earlier today

bye bye clipboard man

>>74665498

Well Tom Brady wasn't picked #1 overall so he can't be the best player in that draft

>>74665367
I want trubisky to go to Cleveland so badly
I want them to be good... And I think Hue and sashi can do ig

>>74665441
holy fuck how have I never seen that OC

>>74665514

Cleveland should find a way to get AJ McCarGOAT

>>74665491
bills taking wilson
davis was from earlier revision
im giving mike williams the edge over davis based on pedigree to titans, but maybe they are done with tall reciever busts

>>74665491
I don't think there's going to be the same massive reach for qb's in 2017 there was in 2016.

Goff's and Wentz draft stock were much higher at this point and Paxton Lynch actually fell farther than some people thought he would earlier in the year.

I mean we saw in 2013 no qbs go in the top 15 and the one qb to go in the first round(ej manuel) was a huge surprise.

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Why is the Ravens logo just look like complete shit

>slap a "B" on a clearly ugly looking bird

"""Great"""" franchise there Baltipoor

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>>74665543
williams is a better fit for the titans imo, since he's a better blocker and they're a run first team. i often mock him at #5.
>>74665547
yeah i agree, the class just doesn't seem to be wowing anyone. i don't see watson or trubisky going off the board until #12, and it's possible only one could go in the first round.

>>74665511
>crashes qb market
>bears sign glennon for 15 million
>jets get qb fucked
>osweiler
>etc.
>signs foles as backup for 5mil

kek eagle fans thought they would be able to trade that fucker for a draft pick lel

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>>74665567
kek, this image was meant for >>74665521
>>74665571
*blocks your team's future*

>>74665527
Not worth a real reply senpai

>>74665584
But they did get a draft pick out of him?

>>74665599

Houston should get AJ McCarGOAT

>>74665559
I think it looks mint. What teams have better logos exactly?

>>74665605
If you want to crash the team with no survivors go ahead
Give him $72 million as well

>>74661652
Aw man, I liked Bennie. Now they're gonna have to focus on even more front 7 help, in addition to CB and RB. Definitely need another year.

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Lions better re sign Boldin.

He was the only one who could fucking catch last season. Tate is inconsistent, Enron has rocks for hands, Riddick won't get big yardage, and Jones has niggers stuck on him like glue.

Would be stupid as fuck to let him walk when he's pretty cheap.

>>74665622
we were never expected to contend this year anyway. i'm glad the patriots are reaching critical mass, takes any expectations for the season off us rebuilding teams.

i've heard the team is talking to jonathan hankins as a bennie replacement, so that could be cool.

Any updates on Butler and Hightower?

>>74665621

I personally do not have 72 million dollarydoos to give anyone.

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>>74665609
Bills, chiefs, pats, bears, bucs, broncos, Texans, cowboys, raiders and packers

>>74665650
>>74665609
Saints have objectively the best logo.

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Who else /cautiously optimistic despite ample reason not to be/ here?

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>>74665668

Tom Brady is the greatest game manager of all time.

>>74665649
Start a Kickstarter like that one Houston fan did for osweiler

>>74665661
My problem is with the colors of it desu
Opposite problem with the panthers
Like the colors don't like the logo

>>74664327
Tom Brady has been with the team since most /sp/erglords have been in diapers. I'm 30 and remember cheering for the Patriots when they got crushed in the Super Bowl by Green Bay. I can still remember my dad's anguish as Bledsoe threw yet another pick.


We've been in California since before I was 1. Our family is pretty big, let alone the extended family now that everyone is grown up and has kids. We have Patriots game parties with 40+ people here in Southern California.

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>>74665650
If Giants had the GIANTS wordmark on the helmet it would be the GOAT

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>>74665677
Beat me to it.

I just want to see them win a playoff game before I die.

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>>74665683
Saints logo needs more black. They chose the black & gold colors because of oil (black gold) and their uniforms in this combo are pretty dope.

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>>74665683
what else would a team called the saints be colored tho? gold is kind of THE heavenly color imo

>>74665711
Solid black

>>74665697
Agreed it looks sharper there than just the NY

>>74665705
Unis are great
But the ratio of colors in the logo isn't quite right

>>74665711
Actually iirc purple was common as the color or royalty, nobility and clergy as well because it was so hard to come by

>>74665650
How did the New England organization settle on the Flying Elvis for it's logo?

>>74665650
>Bills
>Pats
>Cowboys
>Packers

The Packers have a literal G as their logo how is that better than the Ravens lmao

>>74665661
Raiders will always be the best logo famalam lets no kid ourselves. Saints black and gold unis are still the coolest in the NFL by a mile

>>74665711
Also all white was very godly and papal because it's hard to keep clean and "pure"

>>74665732
Purple would be cool but the Vikings already wore purple by the time Saints were created.

Enough of this debate over colors, which team has the GOAT mascot and why is it the Broncos?

>>74665744
The star is simply iconic
The bills is cool
The pats is all right but better than the ravens
The G is iconic simple and clean as well

>>74665751
I know it's a different sport but NONE can top thw Suns Gorilla

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>>74665751
Are you fucking kidding?
It's the chargers
Put down your divisional hatred for 2 seconds are realize the goat mascot

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>>74665744
Vikings and Panthers have the best unis. Seahawks color rush are objectively the worst after the Steelers.

I'm the guy in the boat

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>>74665732
during the roman empire or w/e sure. tyrian purple was the only natural dye they had that could be used to make that color, and it was so expensive because it was only found in snails, and in such small amounts that you had to harvest hundreds of them to make a substantial amount.

that's royalty though, i think clergy would be different.
>>74665747
white is good, but the saints already wear white? gold is associated with nawlins a lot too.

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Actually a lot of current logos are pretty lame
Who has the best logo of all time?
Nominating the Rams first 4 logos for all being sweet AF
Also old school bills is fucking sweet

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>>74665650
>texans
>broncos
>new bucs
>flying elvis
all of them had superior designs, don't know why they decided to change them

>inb4 texans >before
talking bout the oilers logo

>>74665757
I meant in handegg. The Gorilla is the GOAT of all sports though

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I unironically enjoy the Busc unis and their alarm clock numbers

>>74665751
The jags mascot, just for the crazy stuff. Worse has to be the Steelers one.

>>74665650
>GOD TIER
Raiders
Saints
Cowboys
Patriots

>HIGH TIER
Colts
49ers
Toxins
Giants
Packers

>MID TIER
49ers
Bucs
Rams
Seahawks
Ravens
Lions
Bears
Broncos
Chargers
Dolphins
Bills

>SHIT TIER
Vikings
Jags
Bengals
Chiefs
Jets
Panthers
Cardinals
Falcons
Steelers


>ABYSS TIER
Titans

>404 TIER
Browns

>>74665784
i think they're pretty ugly looking desu

>>74665795
>flying elvis patriots
>goat
they should've stuck with pat patriot tbqh

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>>74665795
what about the eagles

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>>74665797
Most do

>>74665784
It's certainly an upgrade from their old uniform, but they will never top the creamsicle orange.

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>implying Wentz + Cook + Jeffery with a healthy o-line/non-suspended Lane Johnson wouldn't be even more elite than the Cowboys offense

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>>74665795
Logos?

We don' need no STEENKING logos!

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>>74665770
>Gold associated with nawlens
You're right I forgot about that
But it doesn't mean I have to like their logo
I do like their uni combos a lot though

>>74665795
>Patriots god tier
>Jets shit tier
>Falcons shit tier
>Dolphins not shit tier

You're fucking delusional m8

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>mfw Romo goes to Denver and they blow the cowshits the fuck out, reigniting the debate and texas faggots realize they bet it all on a memeback

It will be so sweet to watch their breakdown as they completely miss the playoffs this year.

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>>74665820
>Browns
>named after white guy
>orange helmets

>>74665824
desu I love our unis but never thought our logo was that good but it's better than the gnats logo at least

>>74665776
>talking about the oilers logo
Oilers became the Titans after they moved to Tennessee, you numbnut.

Texans logo has always been the same since they came in as an expansion team. Their name they got from the Dallas Texans, who eventually became the Chiefs, who let the Texans take the name.

How jelly will you be when my Texans win 3 owls in a row after we nab Romo?


Now we will be able to btfo the cheatriots.

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>>74665820
>when your team explicitly has no logo but the NFL forces you to use a logo so you pick a helmet without a logo as a logo

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>>74665821
that's fair, i just think the fleur de lis is really fitting. saints have always had amazing unis though
>>74665845
and the dallas texans logo was just a picture of texas lol

>>74665846
romo wont even be able to walk in 3 years

>>74665832
>Romo thriving on a team with no oline
>on a division with Bosa, Mack and Houston
not happening, but watching Dallas burn with Dak could be fun

>>74665845
I was literally going to put >inb4 texans >oilers and type exactly what you posted, but being lazy won

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>>74665776
This
The new design I think are all right but the prior designs were much better
So many of the retro logos were incredible

The old bucs
The oilers
Patriots Minuteman
The bills
Old rams
The orange crush broncos
Old eagles logo

>>74665873
He doesn't have to shine. He just has to blow the cowgirls the fuck out.

That and a bad record would be beautiful to watch as the texasfags turn on their own and slide back into irrelevancy.

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The 2011 Wisconsin Badgers college football team was particularly stacked. On offense, transfer quarterback Russell Wilson had his pick of weapons -- running backs Montee Ball, James White AND freshman Melvin Gordon, wide receivers Jared Abbrederis and Nick Toon, and tight end Jacob Pederson gave him plenty of options. But don't forget about that offensive line. Current NFL teams certainly aren't.

The Badgers trotted out this lineup on day one in 2011:

LT: Ricky Wagner
LG: Travis Frederick
C: Peter Konz
RG: Kevin Zeitler
RT: Josh Oglesby

Three contracts signed this year mean three of the five starters on the 2011 Wisconsin Badgers offensive line are now making more than $30 million per year combined.

Add in the two backups -- Ryan Groy and Rob Havenstein, who make a combined $2.7 million per year on average -- and the 2011 Wisconsin offensive line is currently worth about $33.1 million per year on the NFL market.

>>74665845
Why didn't the Texans just purchase the Oilers name from Tennessee and recreate the old team? I mean I can't think of a dumber name than "Texans". Imagine a team called the Miami Floridians or Cleveland Ohioans or Los Angeles Californians.

>>74665902
They probably picked that name to look like they were the definitive Texas team. The name is even dumber if they actually thought they were going to achieve something close to that.

>>74665900
Wisconsin produced by far the best lineman. Joe Thomas also played for Wiscy.

>>74665902
>Why didn't the Texans just purchase the Oilers name from Tennessee and recreate the old team?
Ask Bob McNair.

>I can't think of a dumber name than "Texans"
Apparently the choices for the team name had been narrowed down to five by March 2, 2000:
Apollos, Bobcats, Stallions, Texans, and Wildcatters.

>>74665928
>like they were the definitive Texas team
Which is comical because nobody will ever unseat the Cowboys.

>>74665934
Apollos sound pretty dope.

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>>74665934
>Wildcatters
What is the fascination with the wildcat name meme?

>>74665943
Upon further reading in the wikipedia article, Bob Mcnair stated that the name and logo "embody the pride, strength, independence and achievement that make the people of Houston and our area special."

>>74665902
>>74665928
>>74665934
Names that are somehow tied to the area/region are awesome. 49ers, Saints, Steelers, and yes the Texans too.

What really is dumb are generic animal names such as Panthers or Jaguars or Falcons or Lions.

>>74665934
Apollo doesn't sound bad, but doesn't really sound like an NFL team. I don't know, the city has more to offer than the whole Space thing, and even a simpler name like Houston's Aerials would have been better than Texans.

>>74665992
Ravens are pretty cool and tied to the city. I guess Lions is better than Detroit Motors or Detroit Cars.

>DAL:Broncos haven't had 'one meeting' about Romo
No shit. Any Broncos fan would've been able to tell you that they weren't very interested for months.

>>74665737
It was a competition hosted by the team. I believe a a reporter or writer from the Boston globe won. You could fact check me

>>74665992
>>74666011
iirc the lions name was a reference to detroit's baseball team, the tigers

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>>74665766
I do think vikes throwbacks are the best unis

So, is absolutely no one interested in Romo?

>>74666015
bullshit. I live in Denver and all they talk about on 104.3 the fan and the dipshit bunco fagfans at Viewhouse, Blake Street Tavern and other brobars is about Tony Romo. And they should, your QBs are absolute shit and Romo would make Denver contenders

>>74666033
why would anyone trade for him when they can just sign him after he's cut?

>>74666033
this is retarded. a 3rd or 4th round draft pick is certainly worth a top 10 qb (when healthy). greedy mother fucking teams

>>74665511
Kek fucking iggle fags actually thought someone wanted their shitty investment

>>74666033
bidding war currently between the broncos and texans over romo, broncos have just been feigning interest to make it seem like the cowboys don't have leverage.

Romo should be able to fetch at least a mid round pick

>>74666033
Why would anyone trade for him when they can just bid on him when he gets cut?
The cowboys jizzed in their paints by basically telling everyone they were cutting him
They should have stuck to their guns and told the league they were unequivocally keeping him to draw interest like the pats are doing with garop

>>74662010
>If we just spend a ton of money on a 37 year old QB with chronic back issues who has played 5 games in the last two years, we'll be set!

>>74666033
Nobody is trading picks for an injured old QB with his cap

Guaranteed if he was released 6 teams would be interested

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>>74666074
>Romo should be able to fetch at least a mid round pick
the irony in this post lel

>>74664416
>all of your offense is either runs or passes!
Real groundbreaking stuff.

>>74666074
>This entire post
This is why nobody takes cowboy fans seriously

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>>74663912
IKTF. It kinda stings knowing that >we won one just two years after he moved on.
I-it never gets any easier.

>>74666074
>Romo should be able to fetch at least a mid round pick

If his back wasn't broke. You'd be lucky if teams offered a depth piece for him.

Margus Hunt signing a two year deal with the Colts

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>tfw NOBODY wants Colin Kaepernick the American traitorous, very dumb BlackLi3esMatter SJW idiot. And he will be lucky if the CFL takes him. No team wants this loser egotistical idiot anymore to be a cancer distraction. Because thats all he has left: Not leadership, talent, or football. He is the Shaun King of the NFL: A white guy, fake pretending he is even close to real MLK based on brainwashing SJW media modern lies. No team wants him even as a backup!!

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Go stand for the Canadian National Anthem in the CFL Colin.

Why is the NFC so shit?
4 of the last 5 Super Bowl winners have been from the AFC, including 3 in a row.

>>74666195
he needs to kill his agent or whoever thought it was a good idea to "protest" the anthem to make sure he doesn't fucks somebody else as badly

>>74666205
muh nfc parity

>>74666046
>taking sports talk radio seriously
Yeah, and Pats fans were calling for Brady's head after that KC game in 2014. Just because some retard at a sports bar or on the radio thinks it doesn't mean an entire fanbase does. Elway has been saying for 2 years that they're comfortable with their QBs, and anyone who watches the game could tell you that the QBs weren't the problem with the 2016 offense.

>>74666195
Am I the only on who thinks the first time he kneeled for the anthem he was just spacing out and didn't realize what he had done, and just had to roll with the "protest" so he didn't look like a complete retard?

>>74666046
>>74666066
>>74666074
My god cowboy fans are pretty dumb
Cleveland is at least offering to pay half of brocks salary for a 4th rounder pick