/nfl/ general: woe is us edition

I will fight every nigger here!

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>traded for dwayne allen
>traded for kony ealy
>signed stephon gilmore
>traded for brandin cooks
>favorites to bring hightower back

Is this the best timeline, guys?

All potheads are degenerates and should be hung

Is Bell still elite?

>>74654971
It's Butler that wants the 65mil contract, not his agent

>>74655030
Just need to get Butler signed and maybe a running back who isn't shit and they will be vastly improved from 2016

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7th Heaven confirmed


...given that Broncos or Raiders take care of the patriots before the AFCCG

>>74655040
Blount is a top 5 runningback you stupid patsfag

>>74655039
Yeah, but the Patriots have no reason to offer him more than the average of the RFA tender and the projected franchise tag value of a CB in 2018, which would be around 9 million a year.

>>74655055
Why offer that much to Gilmore then?

>>74655070
why did mike brown allow teams to cannibalize the bengals in free agency, again?

>>74655073
Because Gilmore isn't an RFA

>>74655077
Mike Brown is a notorious penny-pincher

>>74654971

>Pat fans kills himself
>Only winning 2 Owls every 3 years

Why even live Desu?

>>74655077
mike brown gives no fucks

>>74655070
>You will live to see the Portland/San Antonio/St. Louis/Mexico City Bengals in your lifetime

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>>74655046
Good post

>>74655046
>...given that Broncos or Raiders take care of the patriots before the AFCCG
This is basically the Steelers' best strategy to get to the Owl.

>>74655171
>tfw 2015 could've been /ouryear/ if not for injuries since the kitties would've shit the bed again

>>74655079
Yeah but Butler is a good CB. They could have kept him for cheap and saved 65mil by not signing Gilmore. This just makes him think he should walk

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Is this our year

>>74655190
The Patriots had like 50 mil in cap space this offseason. They have to spend it on something to reach the spending floor. When the Patriots can effectively control a player for 2 years 9 mil AAV when his market value might be closer to 12, they have no reason not to do so. It might feel shitty if you're Butler and want a big contract, but that's not the way the CBA works. Then at the end of those 2 years they can let him test the market and sign him to a long-term deal or let him walk if they want.

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>>74655215
>belichick paying players that don't obey his will 24/7

All it takes is spreading jelly on raisin bread to get cut.

>>74655234
There's no evidence of Butler's wanting a new contract having actually affected his play. Other pats players have held out and not been cut or traded to cleveland. Bill just has no incentive to move Butler when he can control him for 2 years (unlike, say, Collins)

>>74654997
>Rhodes closed

Kek no it isn't

So theoretically, do the loins have a top 10 o-line now?

How much do you guys think the run blocking will improve?

Dogs > cats

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>>74655288
Digits confirm the truth

Lang is great
Wagner is solid
Everyone else is average or worse

>>74655276
lions will never beat puckers

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>tfw you niggas and transexual liberals dont think this guy is any good even with him making OWL saving catches or TDs in last 2 OWLs. Even with him helping inspire Brady and others on that team with his personality. Even with HOF Deion Sanders publicly calling him awesome on NFL Network and saying he gets overlooked by liberal media and discussions bc of "reverse racism".

He basically made it by hard work and determination too. And his name literally means "Noble Man".

I bet for those that call him shit , your names means cowfuckers.

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>>74655407

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>tfw the colts eventually manage to piece together a team around luck

hopefully it happens before he's 35

>>74655422
B-BUT hes not black and fast

the packers are so, so fucked.

and as a packers fan it hurts the most to know that Godgers is only keeping the team just good enough to save McCarthy and Ted Thompson's respective jobs.

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>>74654971
>CHI:Whut? Bears give Markus Wheaton $6M for '17
Good lord the Bears are mess.

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>@MikeKlis 13h

>Broncos now have 4 OTs: Menelik Watson, Donald Stephenson, Michael Schofield, Ty Sambrailo. All but Watson can play both Ts and G. #9sports


SUPER BOWL HERE WE COME

>>74655477
>the packers are so, so fucked.
how so? just the defense?

Are the Rams the new Browns?

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i have a feeling cooks will be a glorified ocho cinco

Official worst posters by division rankings

1. NFC East
2. NFC South
(power gap)
3. AFC North
4. AFC West
5. NFC North
6. AFC East
7. NFC West
8. AFC South

>>74655500
the loss of tj lang and last year's complete bumbling of Sitton's contract, coupled with absolutely no viable answer to the 2016 season's awful cornerback situation are a large part of it, yes.

There's only slightly less to complain about the offense if you think Ty Montgomery and Lance Kendricks/Martellus Bennett are enough to compensate for the potential loss of Lacy/Cook (and maybe they are! it's a completely defensible argument to make!), but the offense had to overcome very daunting odds when playing with last year's defense and there's not much reason to think it will be any better this year.

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>>74655555
Go Raiders!

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18895640/former-te-jordan-cameron-lot-guys-really-love-game

makes sense. if he was wrong Patrick Willis, Chris Borland, and Megatron would still be playing

>>74655540
Yep

Flacco is elite

>>74655514
they're not really similar at all

>>74655422
He's one of the (((chosen people))), he had his help.

>>74655524
afc east should have a huge power gap beneath it

>>74655567
im saying in terms of how he'll fit int

>>74655576
Nah he's pretty much black edelman with 99 speed and Jump

Perfect patriot

>>74655576
he's mainly just a really good deep threat. i don't think it's what the patriots *needed* per se, but it certainly doesn't make them worse or mess up their chemistry.

>>74655576
he's like 23

he can learn new stuff

>>74655341
>I don't rate Taylor Decker as one of the best young LTs in the game
>I don't rate Travis Swanson as he completely improved into a top 10 C

Kys my man

What's the chances that Hightower returns to pats? Jets bluffing?

What about chances that butler returns

>>74655632
NO.

>>74655633
>jets are stupid enough to pay an ex-patriot 100 million dollars to spite them
>again

Let it happen kek

>>74655632
So is the discord voice chat? I feel like reading posts by cancerous trips is bad enough, but hearing their voices would be even worse.

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>>74655633
Pats are the top landing spot. the Jets are a dumpster fire and New England has more money if it comes down to a bidding war(not that Bill does bidding wars). Jets just trying to drive up his price.

Malcolm is practically enslaved for the next 2 years.

He could get signed by somebody else but they'd have to give up a 1st round pick on top of paying his asking price (Gilmore level dosh from what I hear). its too steep a price for him despite his talent.

also, his agent is retarded.

>>74655530
the packers have a lot of depth at oline positions. It sucks, but lang was always injured anyway. Lacy has spent more time on the bench this year than off it. Ty has earned his spot for now, we'll just have to see if he can keep up with a starting RB position. I think they will draft a new RB in the first 3 rounds. Bennett and Kendricks are both better than cook. He will slip back into obscurity for some mediocre team. The real loss was Hyde. He was so versatile and a great playmaker. He was just too slow though, the packers need more speed.
The last season ended at the NFCCG so I'm not too worried. The real thing they need is another good linebacker to help the Perry/Matthews combo. Peppers has two years left in the league anyway and was asking for more money than he was worth. I think we're going to see Jake Ryan or Blake Martinez come into form this year.
A little perspective: the packers get to the NFCCG about every three years average. If they really want to seal the deal this time, they need a shutdown corner. All the pieces are just about in place. They just need to draft or FA a good one that will stay healthy.

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>>74655657
>Scroll up
>Immediately see a trap

Yuck

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>>74655663
Voice and text chat

It's comfy and the shitposters aren't in it.

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>>74655657
>trap
>redpilled
pick one

>>74654971
>>BUF:Bills add ex-Panthers WR Corey 'Philly' Brown
Sean you better not create a pipeline siphoning up players who clamor for gibsmedats as soon as they hit FA, you Razorcake motherfucker

>>74655701
Rude desu

>>74655684
all of these are very good points. all I would say is that (1). while Ty has earned his spot, it's far from certain he'll be able to stay intact for a full season (he started out as a WR after all and has far from the body mass typical of an RB, as many fat jokes as you want to make about Lacy), (2) as poorly as Cook might fit into a different team, he was absolutely a playmaker when he was healthy and arguably was the player that enabled the Pack to even make it to the NFCCG, (3). I'm not so sure the packers really have that much depth at oline, given the vulnerabilities shown during injuries last season, and (4). while Thompson has begrudgingly shown more willingness to draft free agents, I'm going to remain skeptical that he's going to do so to help the CB situation until such a signing actually happens.

In short, I think the oline position has been getting weaker and our 3-NCFFG-per-year average is only going to get shallower in the coming years, but I'm a pessimist and it's good to hear from someone who isn't as negative :)

>>74655763
*1NFCCG-per-3-years

o well

>>74655674
what did his agent do exactly?

>>74655763
gotta relax bro
the packers won't play without a great oline. It comes from the ron wolf mentality with favre. Bahktiari, spriggs, taylor, and bulaga are all solid, plus I bet they will draft more backups to refill the roster.
I think if Ted hasn't gotten a new CB by now, he is looking at the draft. Plus don't underestimate how injured the CBs were this year. They played a lot of different people in CB, including the practice squad and other positions. If Randall, rollins, and gunter can stay healthy enough (they all had leg injuries that never quite healed throughout the season), the secondary will at least be ranked 25 or higher. Thats all they need.
I don't think lacy is going anywhere. He is still in a 1 year deal with the packers, and nobody really wants someone with his history of injury, especially since its all entirely from his weight which is controllable. They also have Christian Michael, who I doubt is going anywhere either
it might not be the year this year, but it is possible for the team to improve quite a bit over the next two years

>>74655050
Lol no. He is great at goal line work though. But White looks like he could be better at even that, not to mention Lewis.

>>74655832
Not talking to New England since December

>tfw
>AFC South

>>74655950
so he's not staying?

>>74655978
Oh he's staying. A team would have to give up a first round pick plus pay him 15m a year. The market for CB's is bad right now, so Butler doesn't have much of a choice.

It's like your kid threatening to move out even though he's only 12.

>>74655978
he's a restricted free agent.

they put a first round tender on him giving him like $4 million. if a team signs him, they have to give up a first round draft pick. factor in that he's asking for like north of $10 million a year.That's too steep.

that's on top of the "right of first refusal" meaning the Pats can match an offer made on him and retain him or just let him walk.

Similar to how they got Hogan last season (Buffalo had some cap issues and didn't value Hogan enough to match the offer. I don't remember what Hogan's tender was but I know it was much lower)

Eventually he'll cave and sign the tender and be back for the year. then Bill will tag him for the next season (about $9 million). Or they'll trade him.

If he leaves its because somebody is willing to stupidly overpay or Bill trades him. Butler has no leverage and ain't going anywhere

Put this in a ded thread lol


Okay, time for so good ol shitposting.

If the season were to start tomorrow, who is winning your division?

I unironically believe my Cards will since the rest of the west is either rebuilding or using turnstiles for an O-line.

>>74656121

Toxins

>>74656152

Oh shit UT waddup u muh favorite tripfag

respect111

dont forget to take your trip off before you hit send muh nihga

Will the 49ers be good this year

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>>74656121
the more things change
the more they stay the same

>>74656152
>>74656164
What if the Clots can protect Luck

>>74656165
define good?
make the playoffs? no
get more wins and resemble an NFL caliber team at times? yes

>>74656169
then reality is just an acid fueled illusion of Jim Irsay

>>74656169

The cant protect him well, just good enough, so they dont have good chances.

If they could stop houstons offense from scoring 20+ points, WHICH ISNT HARD they would be a lock

>>74656121
Patriots
Steelers
Titans
Raiders

Giants
Packers
Falcons
Seahawks

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>>74656168
>I now remember Geno Smeth

>>74656200
>Tits
>Falcons
>Packers
>Xiehawks

Only ones I disagree with

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>>74656168
>the jests will further descend into Hell by making Christian Hackenberg the starter

>>74656201
that's a big bear

>>74656253
then whats your pick?

>>74656292
for Pooh

>>74656253
>>Falcons
>>Packers
>>Xiehawks
pretty much guaranteed. The only other team of those divisions that has a shot has to be the buccs

>>74656201
He could actually be a top 10 QB.

The Jets just havent given him the tools to succeed.

>>74656327
Houston
Bucs
Lions
Cardinals

>>74656353
>the Packers just lost a shit ton of players
>the Lions just heavily improved on their offensive line
>Lions were only a game behind the Pack last season

Not saying the Lions will win the division as a sure thing but it is definitely possible.

>>74656363
The guy was knocked out by a teammate for being a cheapskate.

Pretty damning stuff for a quarterback .

>>74656379
lol

>>74656384
lions have gotten stomped by any decent team, including packers
packers worked out their issues that plagued them the first half of the last season and carried themselves into a deep playoff run.
packers went 7-3 against playoff teams last season (including playoffs). Lions went 0-6 against playoff teams. Packers are a playoff caliber team and the lions aren't even on the same level
>the Packers just lost a shit ton of players
2 linemen, and 2 defensive players. Peppers was old, and lang was always injured anyway
at the same time the packers just got 2 TEs to upgrade their top 5 offense that carried them through the playoffs
now if you said the vikings, you might have had an argument

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I win

>>74656507
is running back worth a first round pick? I feel like they could pick one in the second round and draft a key defensive stud in the first, but I don't follow college and don't know the players.

>>74656563
Delvin is, but this draft is so defense heavy why even bother after that?

>>74656480
The Lions are better than the Vikings. Vikings got swept by the Lions last year. They have arguably the worst offense in the league. If anyone is gonna threaten the NFCN title next season from the Packers it will be the Lions. They have a much more complete team than the Vikings.

>>74656289
Hackenberg is a step up from what they've been doing. Could be a good QB with proper coaching but the Jets have lacked that for a long time. I'm a biased PSUfag but I liked watching him play in College.

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>"I don't think a lot of these guys love football," said former TE Jordan Cameron. "You play for other reasons, and every guy has their own reason. They know why, and as long as your why is really important you keep playing without really loving football.


Hmmmm. I wonder how many Hall of Famers love football compared to how many random 2nd stringers do. I bet the ratio isn't very even. Really makes you think.

>>74655832

His agent's first big contract negotiation.

Butler may be worth $13 million on the open market, which is what he wants. He's not on the open market, though, and can be tendered for $3.9 mil.

Assuming the Pats did want to give him a Gilmore deal, they'd start with $3.9 mil for 2017, and $13 million thereafter.

That averages to $11.1 mil a year over 5 years.

Butler's agent wants the Patriots to consider Butler as an UFA, which they won't do as it's akin to pissing away money and sets a terrible precedent for future negotiations.

As for why sign Gilmore and not pay Butler - By signing Gilmore, they solve the problem of not having a #1 CB, and they can still package Butler for more picks.

Sign Gilmore, trade Butler - Draft picks, #1 corner.

Sign Butler - #1 corner

AFC East: New England
AFC North: Pittsburgh
AFC South: Houston
AFC West: Oakland
AFC Wild Cards: Baltimore, Kansas City

NFC East: NY Giants
NFC North: Detroit
NFC South: Tampa Bay
NFC West: Arizona
NFC Wild Cards: Dallas, Carolina

>>74656853
>AFC- Basically same teams from last year

>NFC- change it up as usual

Result- another shitty Pats Superbowl

>>74656072
And this is why Bill and thus by extension, the Pats are the best in the business. They know exactly what they're doing, how they'll do it, and weigh out every scenario with one thing in mind; the success of the franchise year in and year out.

The NFL is a business through and through and yet so many other teams have sacred cows and horrible contracts coupled with lack of good management. The Pays are the only team that get it. The salary cap era was designed to keep things "fair" but as displayed with this run, that whole design can be circumvented simply by treating your players as commodities and understanding it's better to get the most value out of a player for the least dollars, able to spread the wealth to the team as a whole. It's also understanding it's better to cut bait a year early as opposed to a year late. And yes, having your HoF QB sign for less than market value and renegotiate whenever called upon definitely helps but the fact remains it goes deeper than that.
When will the rest of the league understand this?

>>74656563
>is running back worth a first round pick?
Depends on the running back. Zeke Elliott certainly is.

>>74656904

The owners dont care they have an excuse to keep more money this way

>>74656910
Elliot is overrated as fuck imo. He plays behind one of, if not the best, O-line in the league. I know it's not exactly fair to knock him for something he has no control over but he's yet to prove his value yet.

I'm not saying he couldn't be worth it, just that he hasn't had enough time to prove whether he is or not yet.

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>tfw Mariota is going to show his greatness this year

>>74656917
Damn money grubbing jewrats. They're fucking billionaires and yet they still wanna squeeze out every last shekels they can. Pathetic honestly.

>>74656918
>I don't watch football, I just role play that I do on an anonymous image board
The post. Try to catch some games next year famalam. I gurandamntee you find he's worth every fucking penny.
>Size
>Vision
>Wiggle
>Burst
They simply don't make them like that anymore.

>>74656918
You're stupid as fuck. He would be a 1000 yard back behind any OL.

>>74656918
He's basically a bigger and faster Emmitt Smith and by far the most important guy on the Cowboys offense.

>>74655030
as if Ealy won't continue to be a bust and gilmore won't bust as all of Buffalo's backfield players do when they leave.

>>74656975
New England's pass rush was ranked 24th

Ealy just has to be mediocre and it will be an improvement

>>74655880
I would hardly call Spriggs solid yet, can improve yes but hasn't shown that he's that ready.
Letting go of lang was somewhat expected, but lane surprised everyone when sitton was released, you can't expect that to happen again so easily.
I don't see any way whatsoever that tt will get a top tier cb fa, and that's what the packers need. Ive seen enough of Randall to not expect more than sub-serviceable play with some splash play potential. Same with Rollins. Gunter needs help to be effective. 1 on 1 vs any decent wr and he's exposed.
"The year" should have been last year or the one before. AR clock is ticking. No tine to draft and develop supporting cast

Counting the days til Dak gets exposed as an oline babby.

Counting the days til Zeke gets Gurley'd

>>74655077
>why did Mike Brown...
Theres the disease right there, Marvin is just a symptom.

>>74657257
O-line babies can end up getting good later on. See: Brady

>#Patriots LB Dont’a Hightower visited #Jets this weekend and he’s spent time with #Titans, as well. Both left convinced he re-signs in NE
And it seems like he's going to come cheaper than I thought

>>74657395
Pats o-line is shit mate
Rodgers is an o-line baby

>NE:Report: Butlers agent is a moron

Why is he a moron?

If Brady and BB retire in the next five years does the AFC pass to the Raiders (assuming they can keep their core stable)

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>>74657398
>Steelers let Timmons go
>Hightower is just as good
>They don't go after him
>Haven't gone after a better CB or S yet
>Haven't re-signed Williams yet
>Haven't attempted to go after Latavius Murray either
>Gay still on the team and not being traded for draft picks

>>74657429
Didn't mean to reply to >>74657398

>>74657426
Raiders and Titans assuming Mariota gets a reliable #1 receiver. Pats will also undoubtedly be one of the best teams in the league even without Brady.

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JUST

>>74657462

You just know

Dalvin cook will bust. Not because of his combine numbers, which are irrelevant. He'll bust hard because of his glass shoulders.

You also remember Trent Richardson being lauded for his great vision as a runner,

>>74657546
Trent was elite until the colts ruined him

>>74657615
The Clots didn't ruin him, calories did.

When will someone pick up Romo? The anticipation is killing me.

>>74657819
Never. Nobody wants to trade for him so he'll retire out of embarrassment and take a TV job

>>74657844
Go to sleep It's 2am

>>74657462

>calais campbell is a large man

for you haha

>>74657900
Slept from 5pm to 1am buddy

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Foles going back to Philly

>>74657900
>>74657911

>poo peelanders talking about sleeping with each other

pretty gay

>>74657916
THE LEGEND RETURNS

ALTERNATIVELY, WHO TOOK CHASE

Who is quitting because no one is interested in him as a free agent?
I just saw the scroller on the news but didn't catch it when the name passed.

>seacucks
>luke jokelel
>7 million guaranteed

>>74657929
>@RapSheet notes Bears and Saints are two teams to watch for potential Chase Daniel trade

>>74657960
Daniel for fuller incoming

>>74656953
I would have bet a handsome amount of money he couldn't do it o the Browns, given average usage.

>>74657941

Colin Kaepernick

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/12/silence-surrounds-colin-kaepernicks-free-agency/

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>loins face when tj Lang gets his first hammy

>>74657988
>yfw he goes on to teach black culture at some libshit college

>>74657992
>sour grapes

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>>74657916
he's back

at least foles has finally accepted his fate as a permanent backup

>>74655031
Yes

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since 2011 Aaron Rodgers has thrown 49 TDs to just 7 interception when throwing deeper than 20 yards from the line of scrimmage.
how does he do it?

https://youtu.be/p7Tcdk9BdFs

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>>74655524
All day

>>74658010
Kek, glad he's gone, time to have someone who can play a whole game.

>>74658063
lol good luck getting that in this draft class m80

Yo trying to get into nfl, what team should I support? Leaning on Giants but no clue. Also I wanna start playing for my university team (gladsgow university tigers) but no clue what position or if its even viable considering my height- 5.6. On the other hand I am fast, athletic and fairly strong. Cheers!

>>74658086
If you want schadenfreude and a family, iggles.

>>74656168
why'd they cut off the gif right before 2016? Was Brady... Unavailable?

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>>74658086
The Cardinals since you'll be able to see them humiliate the Rams in London this year. Its just me and one other bong on here as things are now. Church doesn't count because he chugs blackpills if Palmer sneezes.

>>74657988
Guess all the protesting for publicity really backfired

>>74658036
Pass interference calls

>>74658103
What the fuck makes you think theyll be able to beat the rams? Cardinals are fucking terrible

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>>74658036
I think he's literally a wizard. Brady is a barbarian king while Aaron is a wizard conjuring dragons out of the ether.

>>74658112
Or maybe it was the lack of talent.

>>74658123
Probably because the Rams are the Rams.

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End my life
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/article-1/QB-Nick-Foles-Returns-To-Eagles/7068b804-1c5f-4574-a035-980504a05fd5

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>files signs with eagles
I don't know where the fuck he found the money to do this
This definitely means he has trade deals for Chase Daniel / mychal Kendricks / Ryan Mathews
We had 700k available before signing foles
Welcome back BEWD
Riley Cooper return when
>This adds to the rediculous situation of trading foles, getting Bradford , trading. Bradford for a first, now getting foles back like wtf Jewish smoke and mirrors

>>74658162
Why?

He's an adequate backup QB to have

So who starts for Chicago this year, Glennon or Chase Daniel?

>>74658167
the only team retarded enough to trade a first for bradford did it last year

>>74658177
Ditka

>>74658145
A perrinial 8/8 team that always plays well in their division? Lol youre a fool if you think the trash birds are a lock to win

>>74658169
His last season in Philly was pretty fucking painful to watch, and if I'm not mistaken he's been atrocious basically every time he's been on the field since. Though I have to admit I haven't followed him particularly closely since he left.

Plus, we now have objectively the most boring, white-bread, "I'm just a good ol hard-workin Christian boy trying to give glory to the big man upstairs by throwin footballs" QB corps in the league, which bothers me for reasons I can't quite explain.

>>74658211
Seattle, plz

>>74658223
Arizona pls

>>74658223
Name one thing in that post that was untrue. Youd know that if last year wasnt your first year watching football. Rasm literally tanked to protect their creme puff qb until they could sort their hot mess oline out

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bye bye chase

>>74658211
>rasm
>perennial 8-8
kek, they haven't gone 8-8 in 10 years

>>74658231
Hey P12

>>74655450
He missed. I'd say that's the puckers beating the puckers

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Foles isn't a bad QB

>>74658249
>you didn't win, we beat ourselves argument

Dont be a faggot bruh, just accept the fluke loss and go back to being king of the north

>>74658213
seriously, kill yourself

>>74658267
Why?

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>>74658258
Can anyone tell me why a QB that went 27-2 is considered a shitty qb?

>>74658286
You mean threw 27td 2int

>>74658258
He lost his job to case keenum

>>74656253
>STILL sleeping on the Titans
autism

>>74656920
>Houston's obese face when the Texans stop getting a guaranteed #4 seed by going 8-8 every year

>>74656752

He just got out of Miami, odds are good he's talking about Donkey Kong Suh and Miami's other overpaid mercenaries that have accmplished nothing in the last decade.

>>74658180

>implying there was a better option

>>74657966
But the Browns have had one of the best lines the last few years regardless of how shit the rest of their team is.

>>74658408
But Suh has played great, it's not at all his fault that Miami has sucked

>>74658320
I was just assuming people would've knew what I meant.

>>74658286
because nobody cares what you did over 3 years ago in a meme system the nfl hadn't adjusted to yet

he hasnt come close to playing that well ever since

>>74658440
Wut

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That whole "Jerry Jones really cares about Tony Romo and will do the right thing by him" narrative went flying out the window pretty quick.

>>74658286
He did it during Chip Kelly's meme-magic year before the rest of the league figured out the absolute mad man's scheme.

There's a reason why he looked like shit the following season: because he actually is shit. The system-babby's system got completely snuffed out.

>#Patriots free-agent LB Dont'a Hightower is scheduled to visit the #Steelers, per source.

>>74656955
Dak is more important

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>>74658602
Come back

>>74656626
Godgers gave them a 6 game head start last year and the loins still blew it

>#Packers Datone Jones is visiting #Vikings today, source said.

Can someone other than New England win the AFCE for once

>>74656853
>it's another "the packers won't make the playoffs" offseason
Idiots

>>74658602
Do the Steelers even have money?

What round does Sidney Jones fall to? 2nd or 3rd?

>>74657944
literally anyone is an upgrade.

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How mad do they make you /b/?

Is Dante Scarnecchia still with the Pats?

>>74658729
>bears
>eliciting any emotion other than humor

>>74656924
>Not getting that's how you become a billionaire to begin with.

>>74658729
>literal whos
>making me mad

>>74658729
are they the GarPaxBerg of the NFL?

>>74658729
>2014: 5-11
>2015: 6-10
>2016: 3-13

>>74658734
He retired for a year and came back last year.
He could turn you ,me and three random anons into a serviceable Oline.

Turned Canon from a turnstile to an All Pro

>>74658775

Yeah I know and that's why I was hoping he's still under contract. He's important to the team.

>>74658572
Joe Thomas is the best tackle in the league.

>>74658729
Noone involved with the entire Bears organization has made anyone mad in 30+ years

>>74654997
Still havent been to a SB and no playoff wins this year lol

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>>74658737
>>74658751
>>74658758
>>74658798

>all this mad

p12 PLEASE post your butt

I need to fap

>>74658231
Chase is better though. Iggles are dumb

lol holy shit was anyone else watching that undisputed segment

>>74658818
does police12 work? or is he a NEET shitposter on spee?

>>74658647
If he's taking that long and doing a visiting tour then it's likely that no one wants to give him a Kuechly/Collins contract. So it's a good sign for the Pats

>>74658826
he's a college duck

There's a video of that little slut slapping her ass

>>74658585
Good, fuck Romo. Don't let that faggot leave without paying for all the money he stole and only playing 4 games.

>>74658835
is hightower injury history a concern for the long term?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000792654/article/daniel-jeremiahs-top-50-prospects-for-2017-nfl-draft-30

>>74658847
This. Fuck that choking scam artist.

>>74658119
Literally this.

I've seen that faggot throw blatant picks to a wide open safety and somehow there's a phantom PI call.

>>74658876
I'm not a doctor but I doubt that, most of his issues have been minor knee stuff. I only remember him having one serious surgery (shoulder) after the 2014 season.

>>74658572
>haha LOL The Browns xD
>xD!!!!!!!!!!!
fuck off retard

>>74658889
Would you rather get Fourtunette or Cook?

haha LOL The Browns xD

>>74658925
is this some new ironic joke where we pretend the browns arent the worst team in the NFL?

>>74658937
Fournette DESU

something about cook just seems off to me

that said Lattimore is really growing on me

Brock Osweiler is unironically a promising QB who got lured into the worst system and coaching staff in the league by le $72 million

>>74658937
Fourntte was compared to Bo Jackson. Even if He's 1/10th of Bo Jackson I'd take him

>>74658813
>hiding the pain

>>74658965
bill obrien should khs immediately and let kubes come back to texas

>report: butler wants to "make it work" w/ pats
Is there a more beta player in the league tbqh

>>74658958
>LOL the Browns don't have any good players!!!
>LOL the Browns don't have any good staff!!!
>LOL the Browns have never scored a single point!!!
>LOL the past is the future!!!

LOL i'm such a funny jokester!!! haha!!!!!!!! ebin!!!!!!!!!!

why are the pats trying to force Butler out the door?

I thought he was pretty good.

How do I become a Raiders fan?

If Joey Bosa didn't miss 4 games and those first four games were averages of his remaining games, would he have been both DROY and DPOY?

>>74658989
uppity negro asked for a second helping of gruel, Belichick has already contacted the Portuguese slavers

>>74658994
wait until halloween. that is the only day they accept applications

>>74658958
naners are the worst team in the nfl
browns are just smart enough to tank some seasons and stock draft picks

>>74658987
you have brain damage mate

>>74658989
The pats are laughing while butler and his agent squirm

>>74658994
you need to change your race to NiggerSpic, beat your baby's mama in front of your kid, and then sell your kid as a sex slave. Also, you need to buy some black clothes.

>>74658989
They're not forcing him out, they're just treating him like a restricted free agent that he is, while he's looking for an UFA contract.

He wants over $13m but no team will offer that much because they'd also have to part with their 1st rounder if Pats don't match.

>>74658998
Nah, he would've been a confirmed bust.

>>74658989
It is all about the contract.
If it is a team friendly contract he wants him back.
If it is not team friendly he would rather have the pick.

BB has all the leverage and will get the outcome he prefers.

>>74658440

> Last few years

Not this season though. And even with the solid line, they've never really gotten the run game going apart from the first games with Kyle Shanahan as OC some years back.

>>74659022

how come

>>74659038
you need an RB to have a running game
>Crowell

>>74659038
pretty sure that >>74659022 was sarcasm

>>74659044
Crowell rushed for almost 1k yards on 4.8 ypc

>>74659038
>JUSTey Busta
>not a bust
fuck off

>>74655469
Too late
The Titans are already elite

>>74659059
>>74659038
>no run game
>over 1k yards
tell me more hot opinions about the Browns, Finland

>>74659061
the most dominant rookie pass rusher on a per rush basis in the last decade (better than JJ Watt, Von Miller and Khalil Mack) is a bust. Why you gotta hate the great white hype, racist cuck

>>74655469
When is Luck gonna walk from this shit tier team? How many years are left on his >$120 million?

>>74659084
6 yrs total

>>74655485
>tfw John Elway is too intelligent to pay for a professional-level QB
truly elite

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BEWD HAS FUCKING COME HOME LADS

Round 3 Draft:
Injured Sidney Jones and Adoree Jackson are available.

Who do you take an why? Is Sid the Kid that much better? Are you an Al Davis that niggers because of speed?

>>74659080
>/pol/poster
>single digit IQ
yep it checks out

>>74659120
youre a funny guy. you amuse me like a clown

>>74659074

They were like 20th in the league in total rushing yards this season. They did pretty good on the YPA average though.

The seasons before this one they've been bottom half in YPA as well.

>>74655485
>4 swing tackles
>no true left tackle
>1 right tackle who's been injured half his career

the rest of the AFCBest D is going to rape that oline

>>74659158
go jerk off to your cartoon frogs loser

>>74659166
>The seasons before this one
who cares

Pats 19-0

theres no way the steelers let hightower leave without a contact

>>74659203
He's re signing with the pats

>>74659209
>already have 2 rings
>can make money or continue be jewed by the most jewish organization in sports
yeah hes leaving the jew england patriots and going to the steelers

7 owls here we come

>>74659203
I believe he is letting people know he is going to give the Pats a chance to match.
That is why the GMs believe he will be back with the Pats.

Unless it is a huge deal he will be back.

>>74658177
Glennon, just stick to the run game and hope the defense can make some stops. If you meme your way to the playoffs, let Glennon rip it, nobody expects high risk air play during the playoffs.

>>74658137
This. He's a bust. He is illiterate when it comes to reading defense. He hasn't evolved his game a bit since day 1 in the NFL. He's a coach killer.

>>74656121
Patriots
Titans
Raiders
Anyone but the Bengals.

Anyone but the Redskins
Bucs
Seahawks
Lions

>>74659172
aww snowflake you upset that you can't sit in the women's room to pee because you're a mentally ill transgender?

San Diego Super Chargers in Los Angeles

7: R1P7
WR MIKE WILLIAMS
CLEMSON

38: R2P6
OT FORREST LAMP
WESTERN KENTUCKY

71: R3P7
CB ADOREE' JACKSON
USC

113: R4P6
S JOHN JOHNSON
BOSTON COLLEGE

151: R5P7
EDGE VINCE BIEGEL
WISCONSIN

190: R6P6
LB MATT MILANO
BOSTON COLLEGE

225: R7P7
QB SEFO LIUFAU
COLORADO

>>74659286
>dirty Spain in charge of anything NFL
Just stop Juan

>>74655698
Nigga I ended up leaving because the Discord is one giant, living, breathing shitpost. Don't lie to the man.

>>74659230
You're stupid
All his visits have ended with nothing, and those teams all felt he was coming back to the pats

>>74659325
This. This SO hard.

>>74659289
>he wants transgenders in his bathroom
No thanks

>>74659312
>implying the Patriots aren't miles away from the rest of the AFC East
>implying the Titans Oline isn't enough to outlive the Texans or even worse, implying the Colts or Jaguars are even on the same level as both teams
>implying Broncos or Chiefs have a chance against a healthy Raiders offense
>implying the Bengals being beyond salvation isn't the only clear thing from the shithole that is the AFC North right now

>implying the Redskins situation is better than the Bengals
>implying the Bucs aren't improving, implying the Falcons will bounce back
>implying a shitty Seahawks team isn't better than the rest of the NFC West
>implying the Lions don't have a pretty good chance to win the North if no refball is involved

>>74658440
Not since 2014, son. After that they dropped from 2 to 15, then last season they were practically dead last.

>>74659363
>refball is the only thing keeping the lions from being a better football team than the most consistent NFC playoff team in the last decade
Try again kiddo

>>74659376
He thinks one elite lineman makes a good line

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>>74654971
>tfw bunglels fan
Won't even sign Barwin. Complete joke of a franchise.

>clots signed barkevious mingo

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>>74659329

>>74659203
>>74659230
The Steelers don't pay 10mil a year for FA LBs, especially not injury prone ones

>>74659400

at least you have all those playoff appearances to be proud of

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>>74659406
Can't wait until next year.

>>74659399
The line has definitely gotten better overnight with ththe signing of Tretter and Zeitler. Locking up Bitonio was smart, too. Now if they could just figure out RT, they'd be great.

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>>74659406

>>74659408
No, they just keep paying the same 35+ year olds to come back.

So Rodgers bitches about FA and teddy signs TWO TE's, can be talk about defensive FA's next year? Plz

>>74658989
They're not

He's an RFA, not a UFA. Theyre treating him like one. He wants UFA money and no one's going to give him that AND give the Pats their first rounder. He's assblasted they paid Gilmore top UFA money but Butler isn't there yet. He also turned down an offer last season before it even got to this point.

I really think his agent is just retarded and is trying to hardball with an organization that doesn't give a fuck.

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gib hightower pls

>>74659418
I'd rather be 0-16 every season. At least you know there's zero hope halfway through the season. The fucking Bengals though, they drag you along the whole way, teasing you and coaxing you into believing they aren't equivalent to liquid shit running down your leg. Then in the playoffs they'll lose in spectacular fashion or just simply get shredded by some pathetic no-name QB like TJ Yates.

>Big Ben is only 2 years older than Rodgers
Fuck the years have not been good to him

>>74659449
no go die in the deserts of las vegas raidernigger

>>74659464
And he's already talking about retirement. Thank god Pittsburgh re-signed Landry Jones.

>>74659458
Spoken like a true playoff contender
Shut the fuck up you whiny child

>>74659433
Letting Hillis walk and trading Richardson tells me the Browns knew they had a top of the line Oline, the fuck happened?

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>>74659464
>Big Ben would have to been to 5 owls if not for the Pats

>>74659469
I honestly thought he was closer to 40 the way he moves

>>74659399
>Browns
>1 elite lineman
They have great players at 4/5 OL positions, their line is going to be top 5 next season

>>74659469
>buying the retirement comment

As bad as the people who believe all his injury talk during the season.

>>74659489
They were talking about the previous seasons you fucking idiot

>>74659471
The Bengals aren't contending for shit. They'll be lucky to break .500