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>Syracuse

Bracket group when?
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1st for Zona
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>>74648906
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>>74650434
9999. Syracuse
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when do we get some damn starting times for these games
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pissconsin got robbed KEK
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>>74650434
K State was the very last team in thanks to Baylor
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>>74650434
>18. Minnesota
>29. Wisconsin
What the fuck is going on here?
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Bracket group apparently
http://games.espn.com/tournament-challenge-bracket/2017/en/group?groupID=1095439
pass: GeorgeCostanza
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>>74650434
>pissconsin
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none of the bracket shows are questioning how the fuck wisconsin ended up with an 8
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Ookla got fucked hard.
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>>74650483
Does anyone who watches the Big Ten understand how Minnesota and Maryland got higher seeds than Wisconsin?
Teams that finished lower than UW in the regular season and the tournament and had worse OOC showings
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Also game times when?
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who is the coach for michigan state
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>>74650434
>21. SMU
>22. Cincinnati

Wow the committee doesn't give a fuck about Sunday championships
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>>74650564
money
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Graded my own bracketology from >>74648370

Green is correct, Yellow is one off, Red 2+ off, and Black is a miss.

Top was good, but the middle was fucked. Gonna have to make some adjustments to the formula for next year to fix that.
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Longest Current NCAA Tourney Streaks
1. Kansas 28
2. Duke 22
3. Michigan State 20
4. Wisconsin 19
4. Gonzaga 19

No one else with more than 7
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>>74650588
Mike Shasheffski
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5 MINUTES
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How good is Marquette? Can South Carolina beat them
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>>74650434
Ucla and Arizona way too low, gonzaga and Oregon are overrated
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according to kenpom clemson was the best team to miss the tournament
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>>74650638
oh thanks for the information senpai
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>>74650711
>clemshit
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>>74650564
No. UMD fan here. When I saw Wisconsin get the 8 I thought that would mean we get the 9/10 seed.
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>>74650434
>mfw KU has the worst 2, the worst 4, and the injured 3 in their region
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>>74650676
Marquette is meh, but so is South Carolina so who knows
Marquette is the better team slightly, but they are really close
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>>74650711
>chumpson
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>Gonzaga is objectively the best team
>Everyone hates Gonzaga
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Zags can't beat ND.
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>>74650758
No one cares about Gonzaga at all, its not hatred
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>>74650758
>>74650770
lol
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>>74650434
>FSU
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>>74650758
basketball is a black person sport...fukken white bois from gonzaga always fuck it up for the brothers
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>>74650619
>minnesota is a money team
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>>74650676

Marquette can be one of the most dangerous teams in the SEC
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the west region is full of whiteboi teams
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>>74650758
if there is any "hate" for them, it is for ruining the brackets of casuals that listened to "experts" claim gonzaga could go deep for 15 years
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>>74650787
Yeah, not quite clear on how Minnesota will get them more money than Wisconsin
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>>74650787
most of the Refs for the big Ten are on minnesota teams payroll
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>>74650758

I might pick them to win it all.
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The tournament is the worst way to determine a national champ
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>>74650803
Markkanen and Dusan are /literally/ are guys.
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>>74650758
Inb4 second round exit
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>>74650823
Have you ever watched the NBA playoffs? Much better at determining the best team, but way the fuck worse way to entertain people. No one wants that boring predictable shit
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daily reminder that no one gives a fuck about your brackets
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>>74650745
And we get home games in the S16 and E8
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>>74650860
This, who cares who would win a 41 game series head to head I just want some memes
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>>74650863
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i need a team with 2 good white dudes, 3 upperclassmen preferably seniors and 1.5 talented freshman
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>vitale now crying for syracuse

lmao ESPN just latches onto anything to bring negativity to the tournament since they'll never have the broadcast rights to the games
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>>74650865
>home game in s16
not when isu makes it there
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>>74650865
which really helped in the big 12 tournament
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>>74650758
I met a guy from Gonzaga; biggest asshole I've ever met.
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>>74650711
>kenpom
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>>74650823
probably but its the most entertaining
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>>74650936
will still be more ku fans by a large margin
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I have no idea what i'm doing
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>>74650937
>meaningless game
>no josh jackson

We'll be okay.
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>>74650918
It's the whole network
I haven't seen this much butthurt from anyone since TCU and Baylor got left out of the CFP for Ohio State.
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>>74650850
but the tv just told me they're gonna win it all...
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>>74650950
The world will be a better place when they finally kill the RPI and switch to Kenpom
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>>74650912

Duke
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>>74650970
>all that chalk

this isn't women's basketball

the teams rated 10-50 in the country are all interchangeable and can beat anyone on a good day or choke to anyone on a mediocre day.
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>>74650860
>nba finals predictable
cuz you know, ncaa is FULL of suprises.
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>>74650970
see
>>74650863
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>>74650799
Dubs of truth
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kenpom has k state and wake forest as top 30 teams. he also has three of the 10 seeds as top 30 teams. wichita st as the 8th best team
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>>74650863
T. Chalk bracket
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>>74651002
there is your winner...prove me wrong
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>>74650970
Looks like the bracket the secretary will fill out
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Just give me the $50000 now.
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>>74650601
They've been making that publicly known for a while now, and yet a handful of conferences still think they'll stick in the committee's mind come selection time if they play at the last possible moment. Sunday championships are dogshit and they shouldn't be allowed.
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>>74651056
t Michigan resident
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>>74650912

gonzaga
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My bracket is fucking horrible right?
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picking Miami to win against Tom Izzo
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Fuck calipari's bitching
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>>74651070
Nope. Not even a fan of them at all. They are just really fucking hot right now.
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>>74650912
nd and duke
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>>74651074
Yes you have ND losing to WV.
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GONZAGA WINS IT ALL, MARK IT
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Boeheim soon on ESPN here we go
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>>74651005
1st round games don't mean shit in the long run. Getting your S16 and E8 picks right are what's important.
Gonzaga and Arizona are perennial chokers so something's gotta give
UNC is gonna choke.
Oregon lost one of their good players.
Kansas choked.

Some changes I'd be willing to make are
Iowa State over Kansas
FSU in the Final 4
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>>74651119
They can't beat ND.
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>>74651096
why does ND keep coming up did I miss something
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>>74651126
>Iowa State over Kansas
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>>74650635
When will these eventually end?
>Kansas
When the Big 12 gets competitive at the top.
>Duke
When Mike Kzysyzskwskerioew dies.
>Michigan St.
When the Flint water supply makes it to East Lansing.
>Wisconsin
When IU gits gud again, and/or baby Pitino gets the machine rolling at Minnesota.
>Gonzaga
Probably never unless they join a big boy conference.

Thoughts?
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>>74651126
FSU loses to ND no matter what.

>>74651139
I'm shilling.
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>>74651144
Kansas is a perennial choker
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>>74650998

They'll never switch to Kenpom and that's a good thing. Whatever metric they use has to be more results based than predictive or you could conceivably end up with some team with a record of 10-20 making the tournament.
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>>74651119

will do
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>>74651170
kenpom has Gonzaga as #1, West Virginia as #5 and Virginia as #7, i can't take that serioulsy
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>>74651169
they didnt choke last year
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Why does the committee always fuck over Wichita State by underseeding them and making them play Kentucky?
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If anyone else wants a perfect bracket you are welcome to copy mine
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>>74651278
>#1 overall seed
>lose in the elite 8
>not choking
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>>74651290
>pissconsin
Delet this
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South Dakota State seems like a dangerous 16 seed. Could they pull it off?
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FWIW Wichita is 0-3 against tournament teams, so maybe the outrage might be a bit much. Dayton could also beat them.
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>>74650912
oklahoma state
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JUST
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/cinderella/ predictions?

5/12 predictions?
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>>74651372
this fills my heart with joy
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>>74651316
losing to the 2 seed and eventual national champion isnt choking but now i know why you think they choke every year
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>>74651372
didnt know bernie sanders was a syracuse fan
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boeheim crying NOW live
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>>74651386
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>>74651278
they choked this year in the tournament
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>>74651386
If you don't pick Princeton, you're a certified retard.
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God, Boeheim is a whiney cunt
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Boeheim is bootyblasted
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>>74651394
Scared they would beat you? Don't worry, you'll get blown out by the scrub teams that took Cuse's place
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Hahahaha eat a dick Boeheim you old fuck.
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>>74651450
lmao

if Notre Dame had a 3 or 4 next to their name as they rightfully deserve you wouldn't say this. But you're still addicted the 12 over 5 meme and think it must always happen
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>>74651443
they had nothing to play for in the big 12 tournament and were playing without josh jackson
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>>74651450
They ran through the Ivy. I can see that. I dont feel good about Virginia at all.
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The fire has been lit.
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>>74651472
stick to facebook with this weak shit, aunt betty
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>>74651248

You don't take computers at face value. Think of it more like a guide. Gonzaga as #1 means they're probably not worse than 10th, and West Virginia at 5 means they're probably somewhere in the top 15. It's up to you to sort it out from there because a computer can't watch the games, it can only look at the box scores.
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>>74651366
DOUBLE OF TRUTH...ok state to win it all
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>>74651492
>lose one player
>collapse entirely
>"t-they didn't care"
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B-BUH WE BEET DOOK WAHHHHHHHHHH
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TL;DR everyone's a choker but you still have to choose one team to move on
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>>74651492
>losing to a 6-12 conference team
>ever

Can't wait for Kansas to get BTFO by the winner of the 8/9 game
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>>74651529
KU has no depth so losing one of the best players in the nation hurts them a lot. stop being retarded
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>>74651289
The issue last time was under-seeding a Kentucky team that had a roster and ability that only high-major programs had the bodies to deal with. I honestly believe if Kentucky had to play a high major in the 2nd round that year theyd have lost.
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>>74651562
ah so you're admitted they are ripe to choke?
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>>74651579
if a starter gets suspended then they could be in trouble. but nova won the tournament last year with little depth. keep le trolling tho
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Jewheim talking about how great the ACC is then doesn't pick any ACC teams to win in the tournament

fuck off back to the big least
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>>74651484
Wrong meme pal, I would still pause to look at it even if they were 3 or 4. Ivy teams are notoriously scrappy teams, especially in the tournament.

If you're playing for points and probability, don't pick teams who play the Ivy team to go far. Ever.
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r8
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r8 my bracket filled out my drunkemn me
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how do I make my bracket look like this?
>>74651655
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>>74651713
if it's ESPN just click the link for a printable version
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>>74651074
>UCLA touching the Sweet 16
>>74651119
I dig it
>>74651290
>falling for the MTSU meme
>>74651441
2 safe
>>74651502
crazy but a very good kind of crazy
>>74651655
I like it but I question your big upsets (IEm Iona over Oregon)
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Guards win in March.

Love Nova, Kansas and Kentucky to get to F4.

The West is there for the taking. Would not be surprised to see ND or WV come out of that region.

Feels like Nova goes back to back, tho I get the feeling Kentucky's guards are gonna be impossible for anyone to stop. Would love if that were the final.
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>tfw I havent watched enough to really fill out a good bracket this year
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>>74651780
literally no one has t b h
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>>74651780
>tfw watched a lot of games outside my school's and still feel entirely clueless
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>>74651770
>Guards win in March.
>thinks west virginia has a shot
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>>74651810

I think WV and ND have a shot because the West is that wide open. Arizona and the Zags are both shaky as hell.

Brey and Hugs are the best coaches in the region.
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homer bracket
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cuse deserved to be in desu
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>>74651841
No, no they didn't. Stop sucking ESPN cock.
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ez money
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>>74651856
First bracket I've seen that's actually plausible., although picking Purdue to do anything has been a disaster historically.
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>>74651856
Lol, at least give Florida to the 2nd round, man
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the following is a list of perennial chokers that should never be picked to go all the way
Arizona
Gonzaga
UNC
Baylor
Dook if they don't have a #1 overall pick tier player

anyone else I should add?
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In honor of their bid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlIBRkr4Ar4
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>>74651847

sure they did
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>>74651894
Kansas
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>>74651894
any team that i dont like
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>>74651909
With a 200+ non conference schedule, shitton of bad losses, and no even remotely decent wins away from home they had no real case.
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>>74651770
good advice anon

>>74651810
the west is open plus it's going to be hard to prep for their press if you play them on a saturday or sunday
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January
February
Izzo
April
May

You heard it here first boys, Sparty over Jayhawks
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>>74651909
Boeheim in disguise
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>>74651894
>UNC
>choker
Lol what
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>>74651894
needs more KU choking
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>have not followed college basketball as much as I do most years

probably means this will be my best bracket ever
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>>74651894
well, I have Gonzaga losing to suth dakot state. But, my national winner is Xavier so don't listen to me
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>>74651810
The press can be something to behold. Bob has been laying off of it a lot the last two months. I think he was getting them ready for the heads up ball they're gonna have to play when it's off.
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Who FGCU upset of FSU here?
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>tfw you have the perfect bracket and post it on /sp/
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>>74651898
>went to high school with the guy that threw that alley oop
>didnt pick them in my bracket
i will never be good at this
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>>74651988
>tfw I had the last perfect bracket on /sp/ last year
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People sleeping on Baylor this year, darkhorse to win it all you heard it hear
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>>74651986
that, baylor, and virginia are my upsets
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>>74651986
me
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>>74651988
are you a brit that likes /cbb/ or do you just like to gamble?
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friendly reminder that the overall 1 seed typically has about a 10% max chance of winning the natty

this isnt college football faggots
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>>74652008
press forced 29 turnovers in Morgantown. I've seen them with my eyes
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>Kansas in the Elite Eight
>Duke not in the Final Four
>West Virginia over Notre Dame
>Wichita State in the Sweet Sixteen
>St. Mary's past the first round
>Purdue in the Sweet 16
>Oregon in the Elite Eight
If you have any of these memes in your bracket, you need to start over.
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>>74652010
Don't worry your losing too in the opening round
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>>74651986
No but they lose to Xavier
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nd west Virginia
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>>74652039
playing in memetown isnt the same as neutral site
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>>74651983
>The press can be something to behold.
It's garbage tier basketball
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>>74651941
they pull top recruiting classes regularly but haven't won shit since 2009.
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>>74651989
nobody did. that was the year the big east was the best conf. by far and Georgetown looked good.
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kansas is either losing in round of 32 or winning the title desu

le battle tested maymay
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>>74652048
yeah I know I put that in my bracket

miami will win their first game tho
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Creighton over Oregon?
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>>74652013
You get a surprising amount of cbb on TV in the UK
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>>74652090
That game is in Sacramento. Ducks easy
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>50 in Kenpom
>84 in RPI

why the fuck does Syracuse deserve to get in? Clemson was far better in both.
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since I don't know how to make my bracket a pdf, ill just say my final four and national champion
>final four: Unc willmington, Xavier, university of Oregon, univerity of Minnesota
>national champion:xavier
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>>74652108
location is overrated
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>>74652114
Muh ACC
Basically a shitton of ESPN shilling. Most other brackets said they were full of shit.
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>MTSU over Minnesota
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>>74652122
Wrong. Travel is overrated. But location is not.
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>>74652108
Babyback Brooks gonna get EXPOSED
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>>74652114
WE WUZ DUKE BEATERS
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>>74652114
Same reason Duke deserved a 1 seed
They don't
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I haven't watched a single game this year, yet my bracket will still beat half of you. The tourney is such a joke way to determine a "champion".
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What is the best matchup of the round of 64, and why is it Dayton Wichita St?
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>>74652151
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Honestly finding it hard to bet against Duke. They have pretty much everything that every natty winning team has

>Great Guard Play
>Size
>Crashes the glass
>Shoots from 3

I'm just worried about their D, too often this season they've just won shootouts, they're best defense is their offense.
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>my coin flip bracket has Arkansas over Maryland in the natty
fug
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>>74652155
committee just doesnt know how to seed mid majors
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>>74652062
>1st in turnover margin
>1st in turnovers forced
>garbage tier

more turnovers/rebounds = more scoring chances

simple as that
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>my crabcock bracket has the shockers beating the gamecocks
neato
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>>74652090
hell yes

oregon ded
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>>74652151
If the best team always won sports would not be interesting to watch
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>>74652172
its disgusting to watch is what i was saying
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I know nothing about sports but I'm participating in a bracket competition with some friends who know a lot about sports. How can I harness autism magic and win?
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>>74652172
>muh havoc
didn't work for Shaka Smart. it's not gonna work for WVU
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>>74652217
>Get to final four with complete meme
>Not working
U wot?
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Press Virginia > >Zaga
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>>74652212
its shit but its still better to watch than B1G """"bastketball"""""

>60 points scored all game is a highlight offensive performance
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>>74652217
shaka smart was the most overrated gimmick coach ever

EXPOSED
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>>74652172
yeah, and the press means more layups and free throws for your opponents if you run into officials that don't adjust to your style or a team with the passing/composure to effectively attack your press.

Oklahoma beat them on their own floor.
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>>74652214
Pick chalk (aka the better seed) for every game. You will piss them off and get the best chance to win at the same time.
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>>74652214
chalk
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>>74652214
go chalk but pick a few teams among >>74651894
and Kansas to get bounced in the rounds of 32 and 16
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>>74652214
Go full chalk. More important to get the later rounds right than first round memes.
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>>74652229
>bounced in the first round by Michigan
>11-22 at Texas
>working
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Notre Dame has been playing like a top 10 team the last month. Why is everyone so quick to put Meme Virginia over them?
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>>74652234
per game stats are dumb and you should feel bad

Id much rather watch a team work the clock and take a good shot than take a shitty jumper after 10 seconds
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>>74652212
oh yeah definitely. thats the point. Huggs wants the other team to feel hell for 40 mins. Every game should be a grind and scrap.

>>74652217
because its Shaka Smart
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>>74652264
that year that they were btfo by michigan was incredible. the havoc meme was nonstop going into that tournament
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>>74652046
>West Virginia over Notre Dame
>If you have any of these memes in your bracket, you need to start over.

Thank you. At least someone isn't a fucking mong.
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>>74652269
who is doing this?
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>>74652298
>if i agree with it then it is a meme!
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>>74652289
i remember picking VCU over Michigan that year because Michigan got bounced in the first round of their conference tourney
fucking shit man
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>>74652306
most people in this thread
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>>74652217
more like shaka dumb amirite LMAO
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>>74652306
pretty much anybody who watches cbb
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>>74652322
/sp/ is wrong about everything this should always factor into your decision making
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>>74652312
What?
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>>74652269
Because WV is beating Zaga in the S16
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>get shut out 38-0 by Bama
>lose to a 15 seed
has any school had a bigger fall from grace in both football and basketball over the course of one year than Michigan State? will Sparty ever recover from this?
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>>74652358
HAHAHAHAHA Thinking WV is getting passed ND. Good joke squid.
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>>74652242
What does it mean to be bounced?
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>>74652379
Lose
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>>74652379
Win
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>>74652379
Draw
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not involved in any of this discussion but if West Virginia loses it will be on a thursday/friday game FACT
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>>74651431
Underrated.

>>74652214
Just harness the autism of others. Plenty of sites out there with advanced statistical simulations of the tournament. (FiveThirtyEight is probably the most well known)
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>>74652269
>implying they're even getting past Princeton
Ivy league in the first round is the easiest upset pick every year these days.
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>>74652402
why?
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>>74652404
>FiveThirtyEight
they were btfo off the face of the earth during the elections tho
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>>74652422
They gave trump a better chance than pretty much anyone else, so not really
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>>74652358
Notre Dame is one of the hottest teams in the country that just beat Virginia and FSU on a neutral court, and went to the brink with the best team in the country (Duke). THEY ARE THE TOP FREE THROW SHOOTING TEAM IN THE COUNTRY AND ARE PLAYING THE TEAM THAT GIVES UP MORE FREE THROWS THAN ANYONE.

West Virginia hasn't won a legit game away from home since January and runs a meme offense that relies entirely on the ref's mood that night.

West Virginia will win one game and thats it.
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>>74652417
it'll be hard to prepare for the press on one day rest
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Who /planecrash/ here?
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>>74652214
Don't pick any upsets. Yes, upsets will happen, but if you guess you're more likely to pick the wrong ones than right, and it'll hurt your bracket more than just conceding the upsets.
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>>74652422
>W-we just look at the data though, nothing more!
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>>74652446
I like how Duke's overratedness translates to an overrating of every team they play
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>>74652415
Its always smart to go with the Ivy League but you have to look at who they are playing. Notre Dame is easily the best 5 seed and do everything that Princeton does well, but better.
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>>74652444
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>>74652446
>duke best team in the country
pfffffffffffffffffff
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I'm new to this, where can I fill out my bracket?
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>>74650479
bump been waiting since 630
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>>74652415
If you have to pick an upset, sure. But you don't have to. Even if you thought Princeton had like a 45% chance to win and all the other shit seeds were like 10%, you still shouldn't pick Princeton as your upset because they are still more likely to lose than win. Picking upsets just to have them on your bracket is retarded.
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>>74652520
Whose better?

Duke has at least 4 NBA caliber players, the top coach in the country, the best odds to win per the nerds in the Vegas, and just beat three consecutive top 20 teams on a neutral court.
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NIT selection show on ESPNU in a minute

Time for more Syracuse greentext
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I don't know how to make it a pdf, so I snipped my final 4
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>>74652571
>4 NBA caliber players
UCLA is better
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>>74652541
espn tournament challenge
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>>74651145
so
>never
>retirement
>never
>soon
>never
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>>74652571
Dook chokes if they don't have a future #1 overall pick on their roster and last time I checked, they don't have one this year
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>>74652571
>2010 Kentucky team
>Darius Miller
>John Wall
>DeMarcus Cousins
>Eric Bledsoe

First one that came to my mind, but there are plenty more
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>>74652575
haha :)
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>>74652604
thanks bro your check has been sent ;)
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>>74652620
2015 they won and didn't have the top pick.

But they did have 3 first rounders on that team, which is exactly what they have this year.

Not to mention Tatum is a much better player than Okafor.
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can someone explain why people are chirping skip bayless with 1.7
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>>74651894
Purdue

I guess they aren't regarded highly enough but they get good seeds and always find a way to squander it to literal whos
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>>74652651
didnt west virginia eliminate that team?
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>>74652651
this would be relevant if it was 2010
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>>74652172
Yeah, like that made it rain nets and trophies for West Virginia in the past.

Oh, wait, it just made it rain the tears of the upset.
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>>74652155
honestly senpai I'm looking forward to that game a lot. Other ones that should be very interesting

Wisconsin v Virginia Tech
Maryland v Xavier
Purdue v Vermont (longest active win streak in nation)
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Indisputable
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>>74652692
do you like ND enough to make the Final Four
I'm never trusting Gonzaga or Arizona to go deep ever again
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>>74652651
why the fuck is this relevant to the discussion?
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>>74652446
Agreed. ND is going to roll their bracket.
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>>74652782
triggered
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Feel pretty good about Nova and Kentucky in the F4. Wanna say Kansas outta MW, but Louisville's style is tough to play against in March. Also think Oregon has a great chance.

Literally no idea in the West.
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Redpill me on Michigan
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>>74652753
>Florida
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>>74652828
they crashed a plane with no casualties
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>>74652753
If this was 2007 you'd be great.
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>>74652817
>also think Oregon has a great chance
you are going to be proven wrong very soon.
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Do people actually think the media has a bias towards Syracuse? It's a small team in an irrelevant market built up by a good coach and the conference brand. After Boeheim retires and they lose all their recruiting pull, the media will be very, very happy to never talk about the school again.
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>>74652828
They're on fucking fire, but not from the crash.
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>>74652756
I'm an ND fag so I want them to win but I don't think that is realistic. I would not be sad to see a Duke/ND final 4 game though. ND can beat literally anyone in the country with ease if they fire on all cylinders like they did early in the second half last night. They had a 20 point swing to go up by 10 on the best team in the country.
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>>74652871
>the best team in the country.
there you go with that meme again
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>>74652756
If you're not going with Zona or Zags, I'd say they're the best choice in that quadrant.
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>>74652828
very hot team with great guard play. should reach the elite eight with ease
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>>74652620
Tatum should be #1 overall.
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>>74652841
I think Oregon is going to win the national championship
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It'll be a very trendy pick, but I love New Mexico State to beat Baylor.
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>>74652924
Said only Oregon fans ever.
>west coast teams
>winning nattys
Pic none
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>>74652890
That was a different dude though. Duke is really hot right now and just won the best league in Div 1. I don't see how they aren't number 1.
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>>74652945
we're on the same page
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>>74652959
UNC won the league
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>>74652945
I don't know about Baylor losing in the first round two years in a row, especially to a >WAC team

but every other reason is solid
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>tfw picked Arizona to win it all
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>>74652677
yep
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We're actually ending this season with a postseason tournament. Fucking unreal. Tough draw with Indiana in the first round, but winnable especially since it's being played in Atlanta. Then a potential rematch with Georgia if we win.
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>>74652995
UNC won the league but I'm not going to disregard Duke beating:

>L'Ville
>UNC
>Notre Dame

In a 3 day span. And teams that go into the tourney hot, usually stay hot.
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>>74653017
go away
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>>74653017
nobody cares about the NIT faggot
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>the NIT has Syracuse playing UNC Greensboro in the 1st round

My sides. Well done, NIT.
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>>74652782
team with nba players that didnt make final 4
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>>74653045
Troll level: 600/10
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>>74652422
all their data though was just based on other people's data, can't really blame them
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>>74651139
they finished 3rd in the best conference (maybe 2nd best, but close), and they just took the hottest team in the country to the wire. Matchup nightmare, a bunch of great ball handlers and shooters, and an old team with two straight elite 8s under their belt.

they rely on 3s, so if they all go cold they are fucked, but there's not a single team in the tournament who wants to see them.
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>>74653045
amazing
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>>74652995
Duke won the tourney and beat UNC twice. Duke is the better team.

>>74653045
This can't be coincidence. If there is a God uncg will beat them
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>>74653017
Congrats. Take what you can
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>>74653079
>duke is the better team even though they finished behind UNC by 3 games
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>>74653042
I d-do...
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>>74652090
Hell, I can't decide between Creighton and Rhode Island.
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Kentucky is taking it all this year
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>>74653102
Yeah Duke is the better team. Duke beat UNC twice. Once at home and once in a neutral site.
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>>74653102
>muh other teams
Duke beat UNC twice (2 or two)
Duke is better than UNC
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>>74653112
Creighton but gone the next game.
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>>74653042
eh its something to watch-Illinois state fan
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>>74653146
>>74653154
they just match up well with unc
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>>74652945
NMSU has burnt me EVERY SINGLE time I thought they were good.

Fuck 'em.
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>>74653042
I care that you don't care senpai
>>74653106
ayy lmao
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>>74653125
this
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Who /chalk/ here?
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>>74653185
you dont even watch college basketball
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>>74653125

I kinda like their chances too cuz of their guard play, but I like Nova for the exact same reason. And they have experience.
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>>74653125
kentucky is losing to the shockers AGAIN
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I've got Duke choking to Troy in the 64, debate me.
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>>74653146
>>74653154
so KSU is better than Baylor?
Duke is the hottest team in the country right now. their season as a whole to this point was materially inferior UNC's, plain and simple.
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>>74653201
this isn't a great year to go chalk desu. there are a number of mystifying seedings and there's a ton of parity among the top 10-12 teams
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>>74653243
Due to injuries throughout the season Duke had some losses they wouldn't have otherwise. Duke only has 1 more loss than UNC too.
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>>74653045

its rivalry in the making
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I got Michigan using Family Friendly Bane Posting winning it all
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Formula to pick the Final Four:
1/2 seed with great guard play
1/2 seed with great guard play
2/3/4 seed with an elite NBA prospect
1-11 seed with top tier coach
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>>74653281
Guess that's why Vegas has Duke at the best odds. They fit that criteria the best
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If they're not winning, who have you got beating the 1 seeds?
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>>74653298
not really how vegas determines their odds
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MSU or Miami?
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>>74653265
these are totally different arguments from the last one.

why would you use overall record which includes a ton of cupcakes for both teams and imbalanced schedules when you could just look at the games within the same conference?

Also, which games do you think would go the other way if not for injuries? Maybe the miami game? The VT and Florida state games where they were missing guys weren't very close and were both on the road.
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>>74653300

Kentucky beating UNC
West Virginia beating Zags
Louisville beating Kansas
And Villanova beating Kentucky in the Finals.
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>>74653352
nova is a one seed
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>>74653376

I know, just pointing out that I don't have them losing.
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>>74653352
Stop this meme of WV beating the best free throw team in the nation.
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ND WVU is a fucking great 2nd round matchup
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>>74653385
west virginia has too much ass for the fighting irish
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WV won't even get to the Zags wtf you thinking?>>74653352
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>>74653385

Guards win in March is a rule to live by, but another trend is that officials let them play MUCH more in this tournament than at any point in this season. It helps rough teams like Louisville and WVU.
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>>74653384
>just pointing out that I cant read
ftfy
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>>74653045
Now that's what its like to go even further beyond
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>>74653400
WV gives up the most fouls against ND that is the best free throw shooting team in the nation. You'd have to be retarded to pick WV > ND
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>>74653421
west virginia will create enough turnovers to make that irrelevant. but keep screeching muh free throws idgaf
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>>74653435
ND doesn't give the ball up and is one of the best teams at not turning the ball over as well. Shit won't happen.
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>>74653447
your turnover stats would be relevant if they were against teams that played a press like west virginia.
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>>74653435
Notre Dame has the 2nd lowest offensive TO% in the country so you can't just assume that, even if WV does cause havoc with their press.
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>>74653424
kys
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Calipari has been bitching about early Thursday games for so long they gave him the late one on Friday.
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>>74653468
Yeah, this. ND is going to fucking roll that game.
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what happens in the UVA-UNCW game? Elite defense vs elite offense, who wins?
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if you don't have Wichita state beating dayton into kentucky you don't know SHIT about basketball
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Nevada has the 15th best 3pt fg defense in divison 1. watch out iowa st
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Will the death blizzard affect any of these first round sites?
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>>74653522
uncw
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I am extremely salty about last year's NCAA tournament game and I want every B1G school to suffer a first round exit out of spite
Fuck the refs
Fuck the NCAA
Fuck the big ten

Go SMU and Cincy, take one home for da ack
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>>74653351
The losses when coach K was out. Also Duke lost to Kansas while 3 players were out yet they only lost to a buzzer beater.
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>>74653562

I have SMU in my Elite 8. I think they're so much better than they're given credit for. Tough team to guard, tough team to score on. Super well coached.

I also think Cincy is the kind of team that can upset UCLA. Cincy is fantastic at mucking it up against finesse teams.
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>all this ND-WVU debate
>tfw they both lose on the first day
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tfw all 17 of your brackets are still perfect until Thursday
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>>74653610
Literally impossible.
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>>74653578
The Duke/KU game was so early in the season that it's irrelevant now
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>>74653612
>17 brackets
Make one or two you nigger.
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>>74653628
There's no shame in creating 40 brackets
No one cares
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>>74653612
>17 brackets
Make 24 or 25 you nigger.
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>>74653207
prove it nigga
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>>74653045
kek

well played greensboro
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>>74653562
>mfw we pay the refs to let us win for once next year
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>>74653618
Said no selection Sunday committee ever
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No one wants to to hear broads talking sports ESPN
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>>74653720
fuck espn fake news
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>>74653720
I'm sick of the Jews on ESPN making me think women know sports
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>>74650745
your coach sucks wouldnt be surprised if they lost to le second game king if msu manages to win first game
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>>74650745
That's great. Too bad it'll be the 7 seed that beats you.
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which 16 seed has the best chance to win and why is it NC Central
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>>74653522
the one of them that is actually a good team
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wvu is a team that can win on any day or lose on any day. nothing lock about them. if they both make it though the shitpostings gonna be good
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I know everyone is outraged over Wichita State's seeding, but Dayton is the better team.
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>>74653784
>>74653802
>I didn't watch college basketball this year: the posts
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>>74653578
How many times can the goalposts be moved? I really hope these aren't all the same poster
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>>74650434
PC and URI both in feels good man
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>>74653915
history has shown us that regular season doesnt matter.

Self loses consistently before the elite eight. Izzo consistently reaches the elite eight.
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>>74653846
"no"
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>>74653846
that explains why wichita state is a 6 point favorite.
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>>74653963
>bryant not in

wew
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>>74653981

Wichita State is 0-3 vs tournament teams. They haven't beaten anyfuckingone.
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>>74654023

Because Vegas relies heavily on analytics. Saint Marys is a similar team (no good win but good analytics, but got better seeding).

Archie Miller is the better coach, Dayton is the better team.
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>>74654045
>Because Vegas relies heavily on analytics
Better than leaning on feelings
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Name a worse tournament:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_NCAA_Division_I_Men's_Basketball_Tournament
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>>74654045
>Archie Miller is the better coach
ahahahaha
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>>74654055

There's no feelings about it. There's a legitimate method Vegas uses for MM because there's so little relevant data to rely on, like there is during conference play.

Wichita State would be favored against a lot of teams they'd lose to based on what Vegas uses.

Dayton will win comfortably.
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Which double digit seed will go the deepest and why is it Oklahoma state?
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>>74654076

I like Greg Marshall a lot even tho I'm shitting on his team. They're not bad, but they're not nearly as good as what he's had in recent years. They're a correctly seeded team.

Archie Miller is going to end up coaching a blueblood school. Hell Archie Miller could end up at UNC or Kentucky if Williams/Cal go.
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>>74654089
I like the Wichita State meme again tbqhwy
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>>74654085
But all the metrics say Dayton is the worse team, all there is suggesting Dayton is good are feelings
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>>74654089

Duke's half of the East has the best chance to see a double digit seed make a run imo. No idea which tho.
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>>74652334
Underrated post
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Any chance of Butler beating UNC? They put up a good fight against Nova.
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>>74654074
The one where butler and vcu played in the final four
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>>74654104

Dayton has 4 top 50 RPI wins, all of which are in the tournament.

Wichita State's BEST win is against Illinois State. Wichita State's second best win is against Colorado State. Wichita State's 3rd best win is against Tulsa. Wichita State has not beaten anyone good enough to make the tournament. They played 3 tournament teams, Louisville, OK State and Mich State, lost all 3.

Their analytics can fuck off.
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>>74654161

Also, A10>>>>Missouri Valley
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who are these retarded Dayton shills, they are a huge underdog for the 10/7 game. They lose by double digits
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>>74654089
Okie Lite won't make it out of the first round pleb. Michigan is on fire.
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>>74654161
dayton lost to nebraska, umass, gw and davidson. wsu doesn't have any losses that bad.
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>>74654184

I've always found who you can beat to be better at who you can lose to. I mean Kentucky got the bejesus kicked out of them a few times and I still have them in the finals in my bracket.

Wichita purposely scheduled a few tournament worthy games this season. That's all cuz they knew it'd be a down year. They couldn't win a single one.

Not even Mich State back early in the year when Mich State was literally awful.
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>>74654193
>>74654203
>>74654212
Nice picks you retard.
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>>74654240

*found who you can beat to be a better indicator than who you can lose to

really fucked that up
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Does Villanova have a chance to repeat to win it all again, East bracket looks easy fuck out there?
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>>74654212
What a joke
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>>74654256

I think they have the best chance, but there's so many good and not any great teams there's a lot who have a great chance.
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>>74654256
Doesn't look easy as fuck to me. Maybe you're a nova fan, that's why.
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Something I do every year. This is basically a graph showing how teams have played over the course of the season. When I first started doing this I was hoping to find teams that were hot or cold at the end of the year, but those trends usually don't show up (FGCU in 2013 was an exception however, they got super hot at the end of the year and it carried over). One thing it can show however is whether teams are high variance (like UNC in this graph of the 1 seeds) or low variance (like Kansas).
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What are some good meme picks this year?

>Saint Mary's team is 100% white
>Michigan crashed a plane with 100% survivors and very hot
>WVU has a meme press defense

Anyone else?
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>>74654300
Wtf is the y axis
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>>74652361
they have meme magic potential if the win vs Miami.
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>>74654529

It's how well they played that game in terms of Sagarin. So a 6 point neutral site win over Gonzaga (94 in Sagarin) would be 100 on the Y axis, while a 7 point neutral site loss to Mount St. Mary's (the worst team in the tournament, rated 67) would be 60 on the Y axis.
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>>74653238
bold as fuck, and Im a tar heel. I was hating watching ESPN and seeing fucking Reese Davis, Jay Bilas and fucking Jay Williams all having a Duke vs UNC final. If we loose that I honestly might kill myself.
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>tfw I just made my bracket and it has 2 pac12s in the final 4
welp
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>>74654765
How is Arizona getting to the Final Four 2 times in the same year?
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>>74654845
>Arizona
>Final Four
pick one
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>>74650528
>Group Entries Per User: 25

?????????
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>>74652079
UNC's last one and done player was in 2007

Roy only has success with upperclassmen.
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>implying I watch college basketball
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>>74653973
>Izzo consistently reaches the elite eight
Yeah, and I was picking subpar Izzo teams to make deep runs into the tournament back in the early 2000s. 90% of the time my Izzo picks are great for my bracket, especially when you're up against people who only know how to pick chalk.

I can't do it this year. Michigan State is dreadfully bad in virtually every department, and that's really saying something considering just how fucking bad the Big Ten was this season. I'll never pick against Izzo in the opening round but that's as far as I can take them.
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>>74653973
>Izzo consistently reaches the elite eight.
Just like last year
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>>74653599
Wake could easily beat Cincy though.
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>>74653045
10/10 troll by the city, but Boeheim is right. There is no value to playing in Greensboro other than home court advantage for Duke/UNC/NC State.
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>>74654256
0% chance. Not only is repeating as champs exceedingly rare, but last year was most likely a blip in Villanova's pedigree as world class choke artists. Philadelphia has met its success quota for at least the next decade.
>East bracket looks easy as fuck out there
All the more to humiliate you with, my dear.
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>>74654301
normally it's syracuse's meme 2-3

I'd say wichita "kenpom" state is also a meme
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>>74651056
>Michigan beating Oregon
>Dayton beating Wichita State
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>>74651074
>Troy beats Duke
>Northwestern beats Vanderbilt
>Maryland beats Xavier

jesus, kid......
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>>74654300

And here's each 1 seed compared with the 2 seed in their region. 2s are looking pretty tough this year, I wouldn't be surprised if they had more final 4 teams than the 1s.
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>>74652458

Notre Dame is one of the teams best equipped to handle the press. If they are shooting well then WVU is done.
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>>74655091
Literally this. Bonzie Colson is also a fuckin freak.
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>>74655066
Xavier lost to Arkansas, bud. They're shit.
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>a-a-arizona is the worst out of the top three PAC teams
>a-arizona's not beating UCLA in the semis
>a-a-arizona's not beating Oregon

>now it's a-a-arizona isn't going to the FF
keep. doubting.
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you heard it here first
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>>74655164
Is it Wake or KState in the sweet 16
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>>74655176
Wake
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>>74655164
>wake beating UCLA
ok kid
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>>74651323
Omaha should have beaten them in the Summit League tourney final. Omaha could beat Gonzaga.
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>>74651352
Shockers will beat DU by at least 5
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>>74655080
could you make these scaled properly.
>>
Never made a bracket before

Do I need to call a few big upsets to win? Or should I go with the most likely outcome?
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>>74655256
Most likely outcome.

But that makes it sound like "always pick the higher seed" which never, ever works out.
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>>74652046
I can understand all of these.

Except Kansas not making the elite 8. I think they're overrated too, but who do you think they'd lose to? Iowa St? Miami?
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>>74655293
RIGHT WHEN YOU LEAST EXPECT IT
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>All 1-seeds making it to the Final Four
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>not expecting Kasas to have the power of playing in Kansas to boost themselves into the F4 at the very least
>>
>people think michigan's storybook bullshit isn't going to be ended by oklahoma state right away
>>
FGCU over FSU??????
>>
>>74655327
people are falling for le choke meme
>>
>>74655331
What a wonderful world it would be.
>>
>>74655256

http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/2017-ncaa-tournament-bracket-using-the-last-10-years-to-predict-upsets/

watch the vid
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>>74655348
>everyone does it

The one person who always wins the office pool is Janice in Accounting by picking a 14-seed upset that is neither the most nor least likely.

Basically, you're fucked, Janonymous does not forgive.
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>oh no how do I do a bracket

Do five.
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>>74655348
>pick two 11 seeds because they have done well in past tournaments
thats dumb logic
>>
>>74655383
beta mentality
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>>74655389
mentality of someone who has actually taken the time to read "Goldilocks the Three Bears."
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>>74655389
retard mentality
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>>74653281
Who are the top-tier coaches with 4-11 seedings?
>>
It is actually possible for a team to go 0-30 in the regular season, and still be guaranteed a spot in the NCAA tournament. Conference tournaments are retarded.
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>>74655460
we are past that part autismo
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>Mount St. Mary's is a tournament team

petition to remove the NEC's automatic bid
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>>74655481
SHHHHHHH we're not doing play-in games over #16, it's an abomination.
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>>74655080

Here's one illustrating the gap between a 1 and a 16. South Dakota State is an interesting case. They dealt with injuries early on and have gotten healthier as the season progressed. That makes them one of the rare teams with a true upward trend on their graph. It would still take a herculean effort for them to beat Gonzaga, but if they had been healthy all year they likely would have had a better seed.
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>>74655256
The best thing to do is start with two brackets. Build one from the start as you normally would, and then build the other one starting with the national champion and working your way back. Compare the two and try to reach an uneasy compromise.

There needs to be some general chaos in the first two rounds leading up to the Sweet Sixteen, and then things get relatively chalky (meaning, highly seeded favorites) from the Elite Eight on to the end.

It's an imperfect system for sure but you have to go for broke if you're trying to win in a large sized pool. There's usually one bracket that plays out as you would expect, and then a JUST region that bootyblasts everybody. Also, never ever ever in a million years listen to the fuckwits on tv with their "expert" picks. They have this disease where they actually think that the best four teams will always make it into the Final Four. Their brackets are invariably an unmitigated disaster coming out of the first weekend.
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>>74655559

The opposite happened to Texas Southern. They started the year out in pretty good shape, but injuries to key players have left them a shell of what they could have been. UNC should walk over them pretty easily.

I'll cease my autism for now. If anyone wants to see any other comparisons let me know and I'll try to post them in a thread tomorrow.
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>>74655659
This is really cool stuff man.

By any chance could you do Creighton/Rhode Island?
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>>74651441
>muh matt farrell
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When Creighton beats Louisville, you will all be believers
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>>74655689
More like muh Badzi Badson who is a bad dude. And VJ Cuckem.
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>>74655659
notre dame and west virginia
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>>74655732
Irrelevant because ND wins 10/10 times.
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Almost at limit.

NEW THEN
>>74646859
>>74646859
>>74646859
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>>74655659
>Texas Southern University

TSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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>>74655762
>12 posts early
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>>74655776
it was actually 500 posts early but since we already have a /cbb/ thread let's use it.
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>selection sunday

WHAT A LOAD OF BOLLOCKS
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>>74655803
t. cuse fan
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>>74655809
>t. every fan of any team not the 1-seeds, particularly any team in a play-in game

Fuck the NCAA.
>>
get to NEW and actual /cbb/
>>74646859
>>74646859

>>74646859
>>74646859
>>
EVERYBODY BE COOL
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>>74655331
FGCU doesn't have the size
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>>74655887
>FSU doesn't have the heart.

:D
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/thread
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>>74655164
Iowa State won't beat Nevada senpai
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