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>tfw Vikings

>>74620240
Faggot

>originally offer Bennet 21 for 3 years
>he says no
>later on wants 16 for 2 more years
>we say lol no
>goes to sign for less than original offer with the Packers
What did he mean?!

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Is Joe Thomas /ourguy/?

>>74620253
ur a fgt

>>74620266
for somebody who is stranded on the worst team in NFL history he sure does post a lot

>>74620254
He knows the patriots would've cut him because Gronkowski will steal all the receptions on a loaded offense

Smart move by him.

>The Cowboys and Nolan Carroll agree to terms on a 3 year contract

lol....

>>74620292
what does he have to lose at this point?

Can someone give me a quick rundown on Malcolm Smith? Was his owl MVP just a fluke?

>>74620269
It's a bit both, most injuries that he sustains are a result of taking too many (mostly low) hits. But his back is fragile and it's been a concern for years, the only reason why the Pats got him early in the 2nd round was health concerns

>>74620218
Geno Smith competing for the starting job against Eli, what a time to be alive

>>74620292
I wish I could be Joe Thomas. He's the best O-lineman in the country, he gets paid the most, he's probably going to wind up in the Hall of Fame and nothing he does matters in the slightest because he plays for the Browns. Comfiest gig in sports

>>74620298
>30 year old CBs
laffin

>>74620339
they're losing Nassib, so they do need a back up.

>>74620317
>Was his owl MVP just a fluke?
Yes. He's been bad ever since. And the MVP wasn't even deserved, it should've gone to Chancellor or Avril.

>>74620319
this pretty much

Gronk isn't made of glass, defenders dive at his knees all the time. Ward did itnto him and that broncos player did in 2015.

His back injury this year wasn't related to his previous surgery, and his forearm broke twice because Belichick forced him to play with an unhealed arm.

For a guy that gets hit by trucks hes pretty fucking durable.

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Dak Prescott is a good QB.

>>74620375
desu that was probably one of the harder sb mvps to give out

i dont believe in team awards most times but you could easily give it to just about anybody on that hawks defense.

>>74620391
I'll always remember the look on Bill Bilichick's face when Ward went over to shake his hand and apologize for taking out Gronk's knee.

>>74620317
Basically, seatle's D mouthfucked the Broncos so hard, even the NFL had to admit that giving it to an offensive player would be retarded. But nobody on the defense had more than one really memorable play, so they just gave it to the guy whose big play was the biggest. As for him actually making the play, he was at the right place in the right time and made a good play. That's about it.
T. Broncos fan

>>74620298
It's just 10 million over 3 years. I doubt the Cowboys plan for him to be anything more than some extra depth in the secondary.

>>74620298
>Cowboys sign the worst eagles cornerback to 3 years
>haven't re-signed their starters from 2016
>Eagles and Giants just upgraded at receiver big time

What did Jerry mean by this?

>@DanHanzus
>Stephon Gilmore getting paid like a quarterback now. Don't know about this one,
is he right? is bill getting Alzheimers?

>>74620391
>He's just unfairly targeted
Hitting players high draws 15 yard penalties, and he's way taller than anyone hitting him. Of course they go low.
>all of his leg injuries are because other teams are meanies, and all the other injuries are flukes/not his fault
Jesus, can't you just admit he's not very durable?

>>74620480
Gilmore will be Browner without the penalties

Yuge upgrade from Ryan.

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>>74620448
Means he's finally learned it's stupid to try and build your team via free agency while philthy is still trying to build that ellusive dream team.

>>74620480
i think they're planning on trading butler

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>>74620565
It's not stupid if you do it right.

>>74620397
He's on the level of Alex Smith. Good, but can't carry you

>>74620507
>Yuge upgrade from Ryan.
I think he's meant to replace Butler. Gilmore is a big outside cornerback, Ryan played a shitload of snaps in the slot in nickel packages.

>your team
>your grade for your team's FA
>your draftfu
>your favorite Konosuba

iggles
A-
Sidney Jones
Darkness

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>Newhouse heads to Raiders on 2-year deal.

FUCK YES!
BACK TO BACK OWLS CONFIRMED

Reggie does it again folks, why do other teams even try? I mean Newhouse was once called a "pretty good backup in the right system" and was PFFs 6th best FA OT available. You can't get any better than that.

>>74620375
>Bad ever since
>On the raiders ever since
Normally I would say correlation doesn't equal causation, but....

>>74620498
>other players constantly take shots at his legs
>lol delusional patsfags x player is weak and overrated

His back is a concern but injury prone =\= prone to injury, there's a difference between having weak ligaments and others taking dirty hits.

You can't honestly believe Graham, Kelce or Bennett would last 8 games if every play two knuckledraggers dived at their legs.

>>74620646
>Patriots
>A- (A+ if we re-sign Hightower)
>Jabrill Peppers
>the beef lo mein

>>74620647
Fix your d. Why come you don't run the 3-4 with the best pass rushing olb in the game? What's with that nigger rigged 4-3 multiple front?

>>74620646
Pats
A (A+ if they keep Hightower)
the best edge rusher available

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Words to describe him?

>>74620397
I don't think Dak is actually black. His bulge isn't big enough.

http://www.espn.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/233279/dolphins-william-hayes-has-interesting-thoughts-on-dinosaurs-and-the-moon

holy shit Hayes is dumb as rocks

>>74620729
wes welker but shit

>>74620645
Probably Bill wants to use Gilmore as leverage in negotiations with Butler first. I think he'd like to try to keep both.

>>74620585
Trade Butler for what?

They don't have anyone behind Gilmore to play opposite. If they only intended to keep one corner why the fuck sign Gilmore? My gut tells me Bill already signed Butler and Hightower is being a cunt.

>>74620565
>Dream team
When will this meme end
>Why did the cowboys sign this dogshit player long term
>it's all good bro at least we aren't signing players who were good, that would be a dream team lmao
The same cuck mentality of if you kill your enemies, they win
I've been saying it for so long the cowboys fucked their cap space and now they are hurting

>>74620729
WHITE LIGHTNING

>>74620770
to get back into the first/second round. it's a fantastic draft for cornerbacks, too.

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>>74620676
I know what you're saying but
>injury prone =\= prone to injury

>>74620757
I am a rock and find your post insulting. Don't talk schist about me or my people ever again.

>>74620770
Butler's are on a tender

Butler's trade value is as high as it's going to get, in the prime of his career and one year left of him on a cheap deal.

>>74620761
I hope so too. Having both + McCourty at safety would mean a top 3 secondary in the league.

>>74620770
>They don't have anyone behind Gilmore to play opposite.
Eric Rowe did rather well. Pats nickel package was Butler and Rowe on the outside and Ryan in the slot

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Was not making any moves part of his plan?

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>>74620253
>butthurt burrs fan detected

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And how about this guy?

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>Eagles fans yet again formulating delusions of winning the owl based on their moves in free agency

Life must be so simple and carefree them.

>>74620676
What is with this constant conspiracy theorizing by pats fans? Does it originate from JFK's chowder eating head getting blown away?
Yes, I can believe that other TE's stay healthy. In fact, I don't have to believe it, I've seen it happen. No, your team isn't so special that everyone is just out to injure your players and your players alone.
Do you realize how dumb it is to blame all his injuries on low hits when his back and arm are what sidelined him this year?
>His back is a concern...
So you're concerned about the thing he's injured once, but the thing he's injured 20 times is just because the world's out to get you?
I was about to make fun of you for saying "dived", but it turns out that's actually the correct word. Does that sound retarded to anyone else? Dove sounds way better to me.

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Where my noFA crew at?

>>74620862
Detroits run game would probably be just fine if we could GET SOME RUN BLOCKING

Hopefully Wagner will help with that. Heard nothing about TJ Lang tho.

>>74620646
>Ravens
>7/10, upgraded the safety position but lost a RT
>Forrest Lamp or Cam Robinson
>moe shit

>>74620801
So bill can draft another Cyrus Jones?

No thanks
>lets trade our SB winning semi-shutdown corner for a pick to draft a mystery because bill won't pay him

We don't need this shit again. Just fucking lock him up or use the tag.

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>>74620714
>best pass rushing OLB in the game
You mean the guy in a 5-way tie for 8th place?

>>74620844
signing great contracts = awesome
doing nothing and just waiting for the draft = fine
signing terrible contracts = team is fucked for the duration of the contract

i'd be perfectly content, albeit bored, if my team did nothing. no risk, no losses

>>74620936
>sacks as a measure of pass rushing ability
I'm not even going to comment how retarded that is

>>74620805
I smell what you're cooking

>>74620930
i mean, i'm not saying it's a good idea. i just think the gilmore signing is a precursor to a butler trade.

also, cyrus jones was drafted with the 60th overall pick. a butler trade would likely net a top 15 pick

>>74620844
ask puckers fans they cry about it every single offseason

>>74620757
wew lad

>>74620761
How does giving player a fuckton of money at your position give Bill leverage? That's like buying a huge house while in negotiation for another house. It just shows that you're willing to pay big money. Butler's on the way out.

>>74620982
the gilmore signing was a precursor to telling ryan to fuck off

>>74620930
>So bill can draft another Cyrus Jones?
Cyrus Jones as a cornerback wasn't that bad for a late 2nd round rookie. His returns were easily the biggest issue

>>74620991
we do.

>The #Bills are re-signing 33-year old sack artist Lorenzo Alexander to a 2-year deal for $9M, source said. He gets $4.1M guaranteed.

>>74621013
lol gilmore is being paid like a #1, not the #2 money ryan is getting. his contract includes the most guaranteed money the patriots have EVER given to a player. i just don't think bill signed him to play backup
>>74621020
he was also overdrafted as fuck for that exact purpose

>>74621038
If they want a sack artist why not just sign your mom?

She's a hell of a lot cheaper

>>74620885
What are you blabbering?

His back has been injured 3 times since 2009, his arm wasn't hurt in 2016 and hasn't been an issue since the clean up in 2012.

"gronk is glass"
>he takes lots of bad hits, he is tough
"LEL PATFAGS VICTIM COMPLEX XD LELELELELE it's look to hate the Pat's hahalehehe"

fuckoff, he played 2014 and most of 2015 healthy until that bronco nigger dived at his leg.

>>74620966
Oh that's right, Mack isn't attempting to sack the opposing QB, is he? So the number of times he does so is clearly irrelevant.
As a matter of fact, I hereby proclaim that that the best pass rusher in the league is actually Antonio Brown. Please don't bring up his lack of success rushing the passer, though. That would be retarded.

>>74620870
Literally no eagles fan had said this team will even get close to the owl
Go ahead and search the archives
It's just the mental gymnastics you eagles haters do to justify your eagles hate
Hating the eagles is just a hive mind perpetuated by the cowboys and Giants loving kike media

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>>74621083
>getting butthurt because i posted news

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>tfw your team is low-key killing it in free agency

>>74620936
You're just proving my point that they don't use black Superman correctly. He's a natural olb edge rusher in a 4-3 system. And they didn't even move him down to de. You don't think this doesn't hamper his ability to make plays even a little bit?

>>74621020
>Cyrus Jones as a cornerback wasn't that bad for a late 2nd round rookie

Nigger he got burned on every play and sucked on special teams. Hes been the biggest bust taken that high since Easley.

>>74621092
Here's what you sound like:
>Antonio Brown isn't a top reciever because he's only number 5 in receiving yards and third in TDs

>>74621133
>biggest bust since 2014

not saying much especially since they didn't even have a 2016 first rounder

>>74621005
>Implying buying multiple houses in the same market doesn't allow you to manipulate negotiations
Wut? Lrn2biz

>>74621089
Taking hits doesn't make you durable, retard. My 2 year old niece could get bulldozed by Clowney all fucking day. The problem is, it would injure her severely. It would also injure Gronkowski severely. That's because neither of them are very durable.
>no trust me guys, he's only constantly injured because the world is out to get the Patriots. And if you say otherwise,you're just part of the anti-patriots CABAL!

>>74621092
You are bad at debate.

>>74620844
Yes, this season is more in line with what he wants to do. He was trained in Green Bay after all. But don't worry we'll sign some low key good contracts once the hype has died down. The DT, ILB, and RB market have plenty of good options left

>>74620218
>FA:Report: Geno Smith visiting Giants Saturday
If they fixed JPPs hand, they can handle whatever injury his face will sustain after losing another bet

>>74621148
Brown was a first rounder in 2015 and has been solid.

Jones is dreadful.

>>74621167
the thing is Gronk actively tries to run over defenders

I don't know why people are surprised the guy is constantly hurt when he's so fucking dumb.

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>>74620218
Is he even that good? I don't want the 9ers mortgaging everything on this guy.

>>74621204
good enough to be a starter but won't ever be more than that

basically white Tyrod Taylor

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>>74621113
>Getting butthurt because you got rekt

>>74620776
>Long term

It's 10 million over 3 years, 4 million in the first year, and the fact that nobody is reporting anything about guaranteed money means it's almost certainly the case that he can be cut after 1 year with no lingering cost if the Cowboys choose to do so.

You probably don't know the first thing about the Cowboys cap situation. Nearly all of the money that is tied up right now for them has been allocated to good contracts.

Romo's contract is the only major exception, but of course it's not like the Cowboys could have ever foreseen Dak falling in to their laps. Other than that though, Dez and Tyrone Crawford are a bit overpaid, but still productive, and the Cowboys have some team friendly O-line contracts to balance it out.

Cowboys have very little cap space primarily because they have a bunch of good players.

>>74621167
>Taking hits doesn't make you durable

What did he mean by this retarded post

>>74621092
There is a big difference between getting a clean up sack or running unblocked or fighting through a TE/tackle double team. Also consistently generating pressure is a better metric than sacks, even the best rushers rarely get 1 sack a game, so by using sacks you're literally judging someone's ability based on less than 1 play a game.

Fucking retard.

>>74621230
not to mention Mack does so many other things than just rushing the quarterback

>>74621213
he's much better than tyrod taylor lmao.

if the 49ers can build what kyle shanahan is trying to set up around him, and they've made some pretty decent moves so far, then they can sign him in 2018 without having to trade anything, and he wants to be there real bad anyway. 49ers are actually headed for a turnaround.

>>74621167
>my neice has brittle bones therefor gronk is weak

okay then

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>>74621248
>tfw he pick six'd Scam right before the half

>>74621204
It ain't happening bruh
>>74621213
Naw he's better than that. He's at least an Andy Dalton. Maybe a Phil Rivers.

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>>74621276

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>still no Butler / Hightower signing

Why must we suffer

>>74621287
>Naw he's better than that. He's at least an Andy Dalton
but Tyrod is better than Dalton

>>74621335
no hes not

>>74621335
>Gr8 b8 m8

>>74621335
tyrod is literally black alex smith lmao

Eagles' starting CBs are
>Jalen Mills
>Ron Brooks
>CJ Smith (I don't even know who this is)

Jesus christ, all those NFC East receivers are gonna assrape them unless a rookie plays really well.

I wouldn't be mad if Howie drafted like 3 cornerbacks.

>>74621119
No, I'm saying that assuming a guy who averages 10 sacks a year is better than guys with more production is ridiculous. Saying that they're using him incorrectly only makes sense if he has been "used correctly" before, and produced more than anyone else in those times.
>>74621144
I never said Mack wasn't a top pass rusher, I said he clearly isn't the best. But let's roll with the analogy. Antonio Brown ranks more highly than in yards and TD's than Mack does in sacks. So was Brown the best receiver in the league last year, even though he have as much production as other receivers?
Here's the issue, though. Saying Mack is the best pass rusher in the league despite never leading the league in sacks is really stupid. Unless you're going to argue that sacks are totally irrelevant. If that's what you're saying, you should have some type of evidence for why he's the best. And no, saying he deserves more sacks or that he'd have more production if you were his coach don't count.

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>>74620218
No memeing, could they have beaten the Patriots?

>>74621403
more like Kaep 2.0

dak prescott lost to even andy dalton in the accuracy skills showdown before the probowl

>>74621415
Give us your OL for Butler

>>74621335
Dalton is way above Taylor.

>>74621317
later it goes, better it is

>>74621182
Sooooo simply declaring yourself to have won the debate, and saying I'm bad is what you consider "good at debate"? I was under the assumption debate was about proving your point, not deciding you've won and refusing to participate.

>>74621420
No

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>>74620245
dotn worry bro. we can get alvin kamara or forrest lamp in the 1st and that will help out a lot.

>>74621369
>>74621378
Dalton only threw for one more TD than Tyrod last year on 125 more pass attempts and that's with Green and Eifert to throw to. Tyrod was throwing to hobbled ass Sammy Watkins and guys that weren't good enough to play for the Tennessee Titans, plus a coaching staff that wanted to fuck him out of his money by benching him for no reason in week 17

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>>74621467
>in the 1st

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>>74621454
jason peters for mccourty
>>74621467
>in the 1st

>>74621481
Green was ded for half the season and Eifert was ded for the other half

I don't even love Dalton but his body of work is much larger than Taylor's.

Taylor has a great running game too.

>>74621454
Will you take our two time pro bowl center who is definitely very good and does not commit holding every other play?

>>74621467
>in the 1st
are you having a giggle?

>>74621489
Kelce and Johnson for revived Rowe and Harmon

>>74621524
Andrews gets beat and holds every other play

It's an upgrade :y

>>74621230
Well then bring up some actual evidence. Stop just spouting whimsical bullshit and actually point me to some evidence for Mack being the best.
Are you saying that the 7 people above Mack just got lucky? Are you saying they didn't pressure QBs consistently? If so, how did they get the sacks? Are they Jedi? Did they fucking shoot the QB's with a glock? Or did it just so happen that 7 people did better than, and 4 did just as well as, the "best pass rusher in the league", just because a bunch if sacks just happened to land in their laps? Why didn't Mack have any sacks land in his lap? Is he cursed?

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There is an automatic SEP field in place when the Bengals helmet is the thread pic. I had to literally hit Ctrl F NFL to find this stupid fucking thread

>>74621417
It's the position he played in college numb nuts. And I said you were bad at debate because your points are such trash it's not really even debate.

>>74621467
your first round pick this year is sam bradford hahahahaha

>>74621225
I meant that literally any person on earth can be hit by an NFL player. You or I could. We could do it all fucking day. But if every time we did, we broke 3 bones, we wouldn't qualify as a "durable player". What matters in "durability" is how little the hits affect you. They affect Gronk more than most tight ends. Therefore, he's not durable.

>>74621113
Funny, that's the same face your mom made last night when she was getting butthurt

>>74621521
and Dalton has had guys like Hue Jackson and Jay Gruden to tailor an offense to him
not even a Bills fan but you'd have to be casual as fuck to not think Tyrod Taylor is at least a serviceable NFL starter

>>74621550
kelce/vaitai for rowe and dion lewis

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>>74620920
>steelers

>>74621467
you are the worst Vikings trip please end yourself

>>74621481
>Ooooh a black journeyman qb had a flash in the pan season
>ELITE!!!!
How often were the bills down and trying to throw their way back into the game senpai?

>>74621570
>Well then bring up some actual evidence
Mack led the league in generated pressures and had the highest ratio of pass rushing snaps to pressures generated.

per PFF

>>74621652
nobody called him elite you strawmanning autist, end your life

>>74621652
>I don't watch the Bills but will talk out of my ass anyway: the post
it was the opposite actually, they were blowing late leads all season last year

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>>74621621
Look, little man. How tha fuck you gonna talk shit on a team who lost their QB one fucking week before the season started?

>>74621629
>generic nobody TE being tackled is the same as niggers bombing the best TEs lower body
>getting hit the worst way multiple times until it eventually does damage means someone isn't durable

You're reeally stretching the definition.

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>>74621635
Why do you guys want Rowe so badly now
Lewis also used to be an eagle.

>>74621667
>Putting him above an NFL top ten QB doesn't make him elite
What would it make him then?

>>74621609
So that's your proof then? The fact that Khalil Mack played DE in college makes him the best pass rusher in the NFL? If not, I'm still waiting for you to bring up actual arguments for him being the best. So far, all you've done is brought up some fanciful hypotheticals. Of what he'd be doing if you were his coach, and said "ur bad at debate". So please, explain to me why someone with 10 sacks per year, who never lead the league in sacks, and who tied for 8th in sacks this year is better than all of the people that are producing more than him. Again, "luck" doesn't really account for 7 players doing better than you.

>>74621725
>Putting him above an NFL top ten QB doesn't make him elite
but I didn't, I put him above Andy Dalton
therefore this is a strawman

>>74621709
>Bills
>Lead
Lol when?

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>>74621721
rowe would unironically be the best corner on our team lol

also what is that picture

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>>74621649
Annnnd I just replied to that fucking waste of carbon. Fuck.

God I hate that get aten faggot trip fucking fuck

oh well... it's been a good ride

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>>74621763
A porno.
Why'd you trade him last year then

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>Dwayne Allen
>Rob Gronkowski
>Branden Cooks
>Dion Lewis
>Julian Edelman
Name A better Offense

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>>74621710
easy, viqueer, stop being a little bitch like pic related

>>74621664
Now you're blatantly lying. PFF ranked him as #9, and said he only deserved to be that high because of his 2015 year. "n; in 2016, he has 26 total pressures—nine fewer than Miller—despite 46 more pass-rushing snaps."
https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-the-nfls-top-25-pass-rushers/
Nice try though.

>>74621729
No he played 3-4 olb. That's his natural position. This isn't MUT you don't get better attributes for playing out of position. At least a third of any NFL players success or failure can be attributed to whether or not he's in the correct scheme. A lot of people are too dumb to realize this and it's why bill Belichick ass rapes them with a cast of nobody's and a smart pocket passing qb every fucking year.

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>>74621799

>>74621750
>Andy Dalton isn't too ten
Gimme 10 better QBs right now bruh

>>74621812
Eric Ebron
OJ Howard
Marvin Jones
Theo Riddick
Golden Tate

>>74621832
wasn't Bosa number 1? or was that just of rookies all time?

what we can all agree on is that the AFCBest has the top pass rushing talent in the league. Hali, Houston, Mack, Miller, Bosa, Ingram

Will the signings slow down today? Or will we see the crazy train again?

>>74621755
both Fins games, Raiders, first Jets game. They were only blown out twice during the season, once against the Pats and once against the Jets when EJ Manuel was QB in week 17

>>74621848
but he wasnt even there anymore when he was traded

>>74621832
You're so retarded you're unable to even check the date of the article.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-ranking-the-nfls-15-best-pass-rushers-in-the-2016-season/

This one is from after the season's end, yours is from over 4 months ago

>>74621812
Outside of the Gronk matchup nightmare, I'd rather have julio jones than any other receiver

>>74621852
Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Ryan, Carr, Luck, Stafford, Wilson, Rivers, Roethlisberger, Mahomes

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>>74621825
you were a faggot and then you posted something again and now you're a double faggot

>>74621857
No, Bosa wasn't on that list. You can check the link, they had Donald #1 and Miller #2. I dot really even like PFF, I just get annoyed when retards start pulling bullshit PFF stats out of their ass and assuming nobody will look it up.
But yes, the AFCW is clearly the "abandon all hope, QB's who enter here" division.

>>74621854
A FUCKING LEAF

>>74621635
>vaitai
I don't know who that is /:

>>74621481
Dalton was missing Eifert, Green and every weapon he had at some point in the season.

For whatever reason their top 5 oline couldn't block anyone last year, Dalton was raped by the jets defense for 7 or 8 sacks and led a game winning drive.

His stats may not show it but he carried them lastyear, their redzone offense was non-existent until Eifert returned but by then it was too late to win the division.

>>74621812
>not listing Chris "The White Randy Moss" Hogan and Malcolm "The Black Randy Moss" Mitchell

>>74621420
Assuming the pats had the same awful start, then yes. Cowboys would've done a much better job killing the clock

>>74621896
>Stafford
Megatron babby for over half his career.
>Mahomes
Dafuq lol

>>74621854
>oj howard at 21
>>74621887
yes, but chip drafted him and they were trying to clear out everything that he did, plus rowe wasn't really used that well in 2015. it was a mistake, but the whole 2016 offseason was an overreaction to the chip era
>>74621913
backup OT

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QB Draft Power Rankings Sponsored by Taco Bell™ picking up the tabs of 500 students from the student section

God Tier. Chad Kelly
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Big ass power gap
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1. Patrick Mahomes
2. Nathan Peterman
3. Mitch Trubitsky
4. Watson
5. Davis Webb
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Smaller powergap
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6. Kizer
7. Sefo
8. Kaaya
9. Terrell
10. Appleby
11. Tyler O'Connor

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Just go find a real job tier

Seth Russell
Beathard
Bart Houston

Covert to WR tier
Trevor Knight

Convert to RB tier
Tommy Armstrong

>>74621888
So in the span of 3 months, PFF changed their minds from Mack being a soft #9 to #1. Are you seeing why PFF rankings aren't a very good metric?

>>74621938
Dalton is an AJ Green babby

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh fuck gotcha

GOT

EM

GG

OJ Howard is a top 5 pick.

>>74621940
Sounds nice doesn't it?

>>74621420
Yes, because the only other team that would choke away that kind of lead in 2016 is the Chargers. Mother fucking Chargers could have been 12-4 even with those injuries if McCoy and Pagano didn't coach them into 4th Quarter shits

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>>74621938
>Megatron babby

Hes literally doing better without Megatron, that argument doesn't work anymore and never did because thats all they ever really gave him to throw to. He's a top 10 qb now, get used to it

>>74621956
>Aj green
>Anywhere near as dominate as the tron
Come oooonnnn maaaan

>>74621966
is this a meme or what? he only showed up in 2 games the last season. one happened to the title game

AJ McCarron > Dandy Dalton

You can not prove me wrong.

>>74621954
>So in the span of 3 months, PFF changed their minds from Mack being a soft #9 to #1
Yes, just like Aaron Rodgers went from an average QB to an MVP candidate in 3 months. Those rankings aren't even based on their subjective grading, it's all based on sacks/hits/hurries/pressures generated and Mack generated the most those

>>74621899
don't ruin full metal jacket with this faggot ass anime shit you bitch

>>74621966
Bama never used the nigga. Don't know why

>>74621972
4 QBs would have to go in the top 20
>>74621991
tbf saban ran a run-heavy offense and he was used mostly to block, something he excels at

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>>74621938
>it's a "Stafford is just a Megatron babby" episode again

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>>74621987
I just did the tipping my fedora motion

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>good BBQ in KC

>>74621946
Is Sam Darnold better than all of them
>inb4 >usc qb

>>74621991

Football isn't about playing good.

It's about being a big fast nigger and knocking people over.

>>74621979
>One season
>A trend
>Still couldn't stop a-rod from stealing the division right from under him
Guess we'll see what happens next year... I'll leave it at that. There is reasonable doubt.

Patriots are going 19-0 and you can't stop it

>>74622034
The best bbq is in lousianna

>>74622035

No as of right now the top half of the list is better than Darnold.

He needs more time but may be better in the future.

>>74622025
Trubisky, Watson, Kelly, and Dobbs desu

>>74622060
Rivers is going to roll into Gillette and meme his way to a win

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>>74622035
baker mayfield>>mitch trubitchsky

also michael vick 2.0 aka supersonic nigger lamar jackson is in next year's draft
>>74622081
>dobbs

Dalton>stafford

dalton has been more consistent season to season

neither has done anything in the playoffs so they're even that way

>>74622090
No he's not and you know it

>>74622090
That would be fucking hilarious

T. Raiders fan

>>74621892
That's just 1 player senpai

>>74622043
Well, it's not his fault his finger got messed up, a-rod went super saiyan God, and the Detroit defense couldn't stop a stiff breeze. If it wasn't for Stafford the team would've had like 3 wins tops. None of the blame for things going wrong this season can be laid at his feet.

>>74622113
cap it cancuck

>>74622060
my buffalo bills will pitch another shut out

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>>74622113

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>>74622109
Where are his eyebrows wtf


>this captcha
Wentz or Palmer is getting traded

>>74622043
Also no run game and an abysmal o line don't help.

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>>74622109
>falling for the Mayfield meme (me on the right)
@74622110
Don't reply to this

>>74621415
This draft is deep as fuck with corners and there are like 4 different corners that were like 6-2+ and ran 4.4x
Not even mentioning the plethora of guys that are proven good at covering and have good measurables without being physical freaks

>>74622129
I can't wait for Tom to hoist another Lombardi
I'm wet just thinking about it
>>74622139
Please stop posting retarded things bills fans

>>74622165

Lmao, this isn't a big 12 defense kiddo

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>>74622158
his brain made them fall off
>>74622165
>that speed
literally the next tom brady

>>74622172
are you sean or Mayo

>>74621489
>Mccourty
Nah
Peters and kelce for Gilmore and rowe

>>74622180
>>74622109
JUST

The browns are going to the playoffs this year

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>>74622032
Srsly dude? You think I can't screen cap stats too? He holds records man. He was triple covered over half his career. This isn't close.

>>74622181
What does my name say you fuckig stupid idiot

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>>74622020
I can ruin several movies for you fudge packer fan

>also your QB is a latent homosexual
>latent

>>74622203
Im not a fucking packers fan faggot

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>>74621812
>Dwayne Allen
Constantly injured trash, thanks for the 4th rounder fags

>>74622199
it says youre a canadian faggot that should kill himself just like your dad did

>>74622218
>w-we didn't want him!!! h-he sucks!!!!!
Let me drink more of your tears
>>74622224
What's your address

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>>74622065
any place you'd recommend? I'm going there in a week

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>>74622218
There's plenty of room for constantly injured elite players on the pats, we still win bowls and you still lick Luck's semen off your wifes anus.

Official top 15 QBs

elites: brady, brees, rodgers
sub-elites: ryan, rivers, rothlisberger
great: wilson, luck, stafford, carr
good: dalton, smith, cousins, tannehill, bradford

players with a criminal record should not be allowed in the nfl

>>74622246
555 5th Street apartment 55
Fivestown, FI, 55555-5555

>>74622198
He's also a huge fucking quitter

Fuck him he's not even a top 5 WR of this decade

He was only triple covered because no one is scared of Kris Durham

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>Panthers making all of these FA moves

Lel

Land of 10,000 Cucks all but confirmed a shithole compared to Charlotte

>>74622263
wentz > tannehill

>>74622263
That's 16
>>74622283
Post your real one

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Jest fag here, if >we do wind up trading for AJ McCarron are we better or worse off? I never watched him play much with the Bungles.

>>74622165
>head first into the concrete
his brain is cooked before he even stepped foot on an NFL field. Sad!

>>74622304
post your bussy

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>>74622246
We literally didn't want him, retard. Doyle and Swoope both balled last season so we're set at TE. You're getting an inconsistent pass-catcher who can't stay on the field.

>>74620753
white mom

>>74622267
This just in: the cowboys have lost 22 players under the new NFL arrest rule, the entire oakland raiders roster, save Carr and Mack, have beem released, the team is expected to finish 7-9

>TE Darren Fells to the Lions. One-year deal worth $1.5m, source says.

>>74622309
we won't be worse but it's a moot point, we aren't making the playoffs this season. Just accept it like I do and you wont be upset.

>>74622261
>Elite
>Dwayne Allen
>Elite
If he was still on the Colts I swear on my mother's grave you'd be mocking him

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>>74622113
This is literally what will happen.

>give Browns their only win in 2016
>give Patriots their only loss in 2017

Chargers do this kind of shit all the time.

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>>74622217
Actually I don't blame you. They have had a shit offseason so far. Who do you root for now that you're no longer a fudge packer fan?

>>74622126
>>74622161
>Because the pack are the picture of a complete team
Why all the love for Stafford are you loins fans?

>>74622337
Nice practice squad signing.

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>>74622321
Here sempai
>>74622328
>n-no we seriously d-didn't want him!!! I swear!
More tears
More excuses
Feed me

>>74622110
Brother you're fucking stupid. Stafford is just as consistent as Dalton but also throws for more yards and TDs every season.

>>74622360
He's really just never had a good Offense to work with considering he's been on your shit team

>>74622391
Blocking TE which is needed to go with the elite TE they already have

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wait a minute..

if Calvin Johnson unretired would he be a free agent or lion still?

>mfw Belichick calls him up

>>74622218
This was actually a great trade for the Colts.

Swoope is about to have a breakout year, and Doyle has proven to be serviceable

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>>74622398
Last (You) pal, spend it wisely

>>74622328
>Doyle balled out
Holy fuck he had one good game against a trash secondary, can't wait for the excuses next year

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>>74622369

>>74622468
Your tears and excuses have been delicious
Enjoy going 6-10 with your ELITE TIGHT ENDS

>>74622450
He sat out a whole season

He'd be an FA

>>74622427
Since 2012 Indy has had an above average and sometimes top-ranked offense, the fuck are you on about

>>74622341
I accept that every season. I'm about ready to say fuck it and give up whatever the Pats want for Jimmy G but knowing our luck we'll do that then he'll shatter his rectum or something and we'll get fucked. Drafting obviously isn't our thing, just give up what we have to give up and accept we'll be trash a few years. We always wind up being trash anyway.

>>74622424
he also has a lot more pass attempts per season

stafford was really bad from 2012-2014

The two are neck and neck, but I just think dalton is slightly ahead.

I do think Stafford was better last year though

>>74622470
>He had one good game
You can just admit you barely watched Colts football last year

>>74622499
>Andrew Luck throwing to him
Now he has a QB who isn't absolutely garbage

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>>74622296
>proud of paying $11M to a guy with no knees that has never been good
lol k

>>74622499
I mean, yeah playing in the same conference as the jags tits and texans will do that. Funny how it wasn't this year when the texans d showed up. By the way it's a fucking embarassment the entire division

>>74622533
I had Luck as my fantasy QB, I watched every game and observed how shit he is.

>>74622552
Toxins and Tits are looking good , moreso the tits

>>74622552
lmao the colts had the 8th best offense in the league you sperg

>>74622496
This needs to happen

>Gronk
>Cooks
>Megatron
>Minitron

Ripip goodells bunghole

>>74622541
Matt Kalil? Yeah I'm mixed on that signing. Oher worked out well for us under similar circumstances but we weren't nearly as invested and his career is basically over now from a concussion.

Damn shame that when the panther finally pick top 10 again it's the weakest OT draft in a decade

>>74622292
>Implying a 30+ year old man isn't allowed to make decisions for his future well being
What did he have left to prove? Just banging his head like a bull in rut for team that everyone knows will never win an owl is stupid.

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>>74622572
>Shit
>One of his best statistical years
>Pro Bowl season
>With pretty much only Hilton to work with

>>74622450
1) when you retire your contract basically freezes, so if he were to unretire the Lions would still have his rights
2) he's pretty comfy in his retirement and doesn't even really work out or train anymore, he's no longer in NFL shape
3) he's in constant pain from the injuries suffered over his career

let him fucking be already you fucking cucks he's ever coming back

>>74622607
>What did he have left to prove?
That he's better than Dez Bryant. I honestly can't even consider him better just off the fact that Dez has more playoff wins, is better at catching touchdowns and isn't a diva WR

>>74622611
>best statistical years
>Pro Bowl season

Garbage T I M E

>>74622611
I'm referring to Doyle you tard

>>74622611
>Only 33 TDs to 18 turnovers is good
Oh colts fans

Chorgers Owl Run Mock Draft

Round 1 Pick 7: Solomon Thomas, DE, Stanford (A+)
Round 2 Pick 6: Dan Feeney, OG, Indiana (B)
Round 3 Pick 7: Antonio Garcia, OT, Troy (A-)
Round 4 Pick 6: JuJu Smith-Schuster, WR, Southern California (A+)
Round 5 Pick 7: Howard Wilson, CB, Houston (A+)
Round 6 Pick 6: Jadar Johnson, SS, Clemson (B)
Round 7 Pick 7: Chad Kelly, QB, Ole Miss (B)

>>74622624
Hmm

>unretire
>restructure to fix cap
>trade

Could happen (;

>>74622602
I would kek. Wouldn't even be mad the pats raped again. Brady is already the goat and I can't argue for Montana anymore. let's take this to it's highest possibility.

>>74622468
what were the five reasons?

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>>74622651
>Dez
>isn't a diva WR
>Megatron
>is a diva

>>74622697
3 of them were being a colts fan

>>74622683
Give Blount

>>74622683
megatron was declining though

>>74622683
sure I'd love to watch a broken down out of shape player with no passion left try to play in the NFL at age 32 and see Pats fans try to convince themselves he'll be as dominant as before

>>74622624
This, he already said he doesn't want to live on painkillers in order to function for the rest of his life. He's also actually smart and wants to preserve what is left of his brain.

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>>74622651
>A leaf shitposting stupidity
Color me shocked

>>74622651
>dez better than megatron
oh my god, dez isn't a top 5 wide receiver in the league right now

>>74622729
im a cardinals fan. am i safe?

Why do we even let Canadians talk about football?

>>74622773
idk give em a break

the blue bombers were pretty damn good

>>74622745
>Implying after year of rest and actually having threats around him wouldn't clear that right up.

>>74622742
Blount is a FA nobody wants

>>74622747
>>74622745
Theres nothing wrong with taking a declined megatron, it's the ultimate meme team.

After a year of rest his knees probably feel better to run.

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>Eagles Single-Season Passing Records:
>Yards: 3916 (McNabb, 2004)
>TDs: 32 (Jurgensen, 1961)
>Completions: 379 (Wentz, 2016)

what are the odds wentz breaks all of these records next season? keep in mind alshon jeffery is a top 10 WR

>>74622844
Not happening

>>74622759
Then why was he in the probowl? Checkmate atheists.

>>74622839
That wouldn't solve his nagging ankle and other injuries. He was double and triple covered his entire career, it's a miracle he lasted this long.

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>>74622844
>alshon jeffery is a top 10 WR

Debatable, Wentz throws for 4k tho

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>>74622888
>those digits

IGGLES BTFO

>>74622839

>"I wouldn’t just quit because we were losing," he said. "It was just body. I was just tired of it, fed up. Just had enough."

>"I'm not coming back, man," Johnson told ESPN. "Look, man. I got stuff that's going to hurt for the rest of my life. I got a finger that's literally bone-on-bone. This bad boy, it gets smaller. The more and more I do, it grinds bone-on-bone.

>"Literally from last year, I went this year to get another X-ray and this is after I retired, I knew it was messed up but I didn't know to what degree because it was hurt."

>"The thing I don't miss is waking up in the morning, hurting, the grind of the game," Johnson said. "I got chronic stuff that everybody has when they're done playing football for any length of time. So the good thing is I'm able to walk. I feel good. I'm able to spend more time with the senpai. I'm able to chill. I don't have to go out and run three miles every day in practice, you know what I'm saying. Goodness gracious."

Just play Madden bro, stop fantasizing about things that will never happen

>>74622844
is he though? i could come up with 10 other receivers i'd rather have

>>74622844
He's on the 4 game suspension list cause he's a druggy bitch

>>74622949
Seriously he said he's sick of getting beat up and waking up in chronic pain. Listen to him talk, he sounds more than satisfied in retirement.

Idk why people won't leave him alone already