/rug/

1st for Englandwinslol

>poosaders thread
I'll take this one

Eat shit Buckman

Poor unloved thread.
I still love you bb

LOINS

1. Vunipola if comes back well
2. Hartley
3. Furlong
4. Launchbury
5. AWJ
6. Warburton
7. Tipuric
8. Vunipola
9. Webb
10. Sexton
11. Visser
12. Farrell
13. Huw Jones
14. Nowell
15. Hogg

Bench
McGrath, Best, Cole, Itoje, Stander, Murray, Biggar, Daly

Mel wants to fuck A Smith in the handicapped toilet.

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Literally no mana in either of these teams lads

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>>74615561
Should be a good match. Just hope the Scots bring a better-performing team than the Spudsuckers took to Cardiff last night.

What a fucking mess.

>>74615806
>Kick
>handling error

>pass
>handling error

>loose ball
>handling error

>literally passing the ball to eachother to do a 22
>handling error

>>74615874
Recommend you don't watch Italy - France later.

Kys Tuipulotu

/heart/

for fuck shit I fucking hate Atonio

victoire !

how the fuck did the Boks lose to this

>>74619331
The Boks were just that bad. And they're only going worse; at this rate they'll crash out of the pool stages in 2019.

I've been watching Italy for over 10 years and it's still the same story every fucking time.
>Strong start, gain a lead even vs England or NZ
>This lasts for 5 minutes, then the other team catches up and takes the lead back
>60 minutes in: total collapse. Not rare to see the other team score 3 tries in 5-10 minutes
How does this happen? It's like they make it their game plan, even across different coaching eras.

>>74619331
They lost against fucking Japan, m8

In the last 2 years, they had their first loss against Japan, their first loss in Argentina, their first loss in Italia, their first home loss against Argentina, their first home loss against Ireland...

They're just sinking faster than a million Titanics.

So is this thread /ded/?

ACTUAL THREAD
>>74619246 → → →
>>74619246 → → →
>>74619246 → → →

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Nice "thread" aucklels

>>74622095
It's a placeholder thread for later. I give it a few hours.

My brave little thread

>>74625079
The little thread that could

I'm watching Jags vs Lions, what are your feelings respect this game?

>>74625079
good morning.

what are you doing Jags?
why do you like to humiliate them?
24-7 it's too much
you much for their... poor... bodies

tackle for the life
you almost split him up
you got your 5 points
but you are too far

just edged after a week of not wanking
bollocks are about to burst

defend, defend
that you are losing
you are doing well
you surprise me Lions

>>74625507
not really a need-to-know m8

>>74625529
agreed.

sports are difficult,
i would like to be baseball player
sports are easy going
if you love it

lads

>>74625345
I'm feeling that it's argie homebabbies vs saffa homebabbies.

AND THEN HE BINS A LION PLAYER
FUCK OFF REF REEEEEEEEEEE

you are just shooting the ball away
Lions, you are looking pathetic
do something better
i want to watch struggle

>>74625391
>>74625440
>>74625518
>>74625574
>>74625631
I love a good haiku.

>>74625583
Mate.

THEN THE CUNT WHO SHOULD'VE BEEN CARDED TWICE WALKS IN A TRY REEEEEEEEE

too much for you Lions
you gotta accept the humiliation
you dedicate your life to rugby
and you lose in it

Is this ref banging an Argie broad?

Victoria Digna

Imagine loosing to the Jaguares
You would have to volunteer to leave the super rugby imo

>>74625671
Who usually wins the womens 6N?

>tfw behind in-goal standings aren't used

It would be adorable to see avalanches from the crowd in each Onças' try

>>74625683
why. Lions are clearly losing for lack of talent

>>74625725
Or jetlag

Loving the based Americas lads commenting on the game 2bh

Daily reminder that England are only GOAT because of George Ford and Farrell's Rugby League heritage. Just like when England put all their hopes on Sam Burgess for the World Cup

>>74625725
Sanchez should have gone on the bin for kneeing the Lions winger in the face

>>74625754
is it an ESPN stream?

>>74625756
then again with a no-arms flip tackle.

>>74625762
I don't know, I'm talking about Chile and Brazil in this thread.

rugby

Lions r losing because in Africa they don't eat proteins :-(

>>74625820
Search for Braai

>>74625837
braai is official food in Chile too

>>74625782
I read "commentating"

we mus collect all the points we can cuz then the evil kiwis come :(

>>74625897
PREPARE YOUR CULO

>>74625856
>implying no hot dog with chimichurri

Who gives a fuck about shitty meme tournaments?

#LeMeilleurChampionnatDuMonde represents

Bordeaux-Bègles 46 - 14 Grenoble
Brive 21 - 19 Too Loose
Lyon 35 - 33 Stade Français
Toulon 82 - 14 Bayonne

>les jambons de Bayonne
>la ville de Too Loose

now

Racing Métro 8 - 25 La Rochelle
30min to go

tomorrow

Pau - Castres
Clermont - Montpenesburg

1.La Rochelle
2.Clermont
3.Castres
4.Toulon
5.Montpenesburg
6.Pau
7.Racing
8.Bordeaux-Bègle
9.Brive
10.Too Loose
11.Lyon
12.Stade Français
13.Grenoble
14.Jambon de Bayonne

Bayonne can't be saved from relegation anymore
Brive can't be relegated anymore
Too Loose lost almost every chances to reach the play offs (first time in the last 30 years or something like that)

it's done, congratulations Argentina! get a better internet though!

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>>74625976
>Who gives a fuck about shitty meme tournaments?
>proceeds to post fixtures of shitty meme tournament

>>74625976
>poor Baiona

How is Montalban in D2?

>>74625994
6th, with one less game

http://www.lequipe.fr/Rugby/CLA_ELIT2.html

actually the standings are really close at the top of the league, only 2 won games between the 1st and the 7th teams

there's only 6 games left though

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>>74626147
>Bourgoin
>Perpignan still in the middle on the rankings
>Béziers, Narbonne and Dax still in the bottom
>Aurillac in the ProD2 for nearly 2 decades

As much as I want simplification for the main championships, there's no wonder why I become blasé...

>>74615780

scotlel

>>74625755

wales/scotlel poster posing as english detected

>>74626394
Kevin Sinfield for BBC sports personality of the year tbqh

>in the finals last year
>cant even beat the jags this year
execute south african rugby
landers were robbed

>>74626290
rugby has become a sport for bigger cities... Toulouse, Paris, Lyon, Bordeaux, Montpellier, Clermont, Toulon, Grenoble... Cities like Brive, Castres or Bayonne are anomalies now, and in fact can consider themselves lucky that northen France doesn't give a fuck about rugby, and therefore are free from the concurrence of cities like Nantes, Lille, Le Havre, Strasbourg, Tours, Rennes, Nancy, Le Mans, Dijon, Rouen... that are all much bigger than them.

The same can be said for all those cities you cited too actually... The Lourdes, Béziers, Agen, Montauban, Bourgoin, Colomiers, Biarritz, Perpignan, Dax, Narbonne, Aurillac...

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Time to dust this off again.

The Scottish boom/bust back into full swing

>>74625709

Who cares?

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>>74626421
The right team win in the end though

I'm so shit at superbru
fallen 13 places in the rankings

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The absolute state of australian provicial rugby.
I just want them to be good, lads....

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>>74626573
you taking about the 6 nations one or the super rugby one?
How many posters are doing the super rugby one?

>I was the only person who picked Wales to beat Irelel
seething casuals, the lot of you

>>74626681
Pick france to win by 28, the italian kicker nails some miracle kick from the sideline to take me out of the margin by 1 point.
Yeah I'm still mad. Actually makes the kick when it's difficult but means nothing but misses the important sitters, classic shitaly.

>>74626677
I'm shit at both
Better at super rugby

>>74626761
Top tip
Pick the home team

Kek

https://twitter.com/EricNorthcote/status/840638122841034752

>>74627215
Are Scots the Liverpool of NH rugby?

>>74627401
More like Arsenal

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>>74627215

>>74627444
Bit harsh that.

>>74627215
He's got a point thought, that's kinda bullshit.

>>74627444
I meant the constant "our year la" and victim complex

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>>74627215

If there's ever a more perfect image for the JUST hair, it's that.

>>74627671
dat makeup though, his beard separates the orange face from his white neck

>>74627401
No that would be Ireland. PASHUN™ and our year la"
Man utd. are France, brlliant in living memory, shit-tier now regardless of rich resources
England are chelsea...??
Wales are arsenal. Not really though.
Italy are Newcastle

When will England play a tier one side?

>>74627671
absolute state of that image

bought tickets to Melbourne last year when they were on sale, and the rugby game is on there the night before I arrive
who do I execute in retaliation

>>74628326
Yourself for wanting to go to a reblels game

>>74628418
i know but i havent been to a rugby game with my brother since he moved over there like 5 years ago

>>74627215
Even as an Englishman, I can't abide that level of disrespect.

>>74628418
kek

>>74628049
Liverpool used to be good

>>74628621
I doubt anyone ITT was alive when Liverpool were actually good. Ignoring the 2005 fluke or whenever it was.

Are you guys watching the sevens?

>>74628770
>gets to a final also in 2007
>fluke

hmm.

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>>74628850
>one linebreak = score the sport
God no

I'm not watching the 7s but of course paddy won't be, but it's because ireland is fucking shit

>>74628850
>rugby 15s
>rugby 13s
>rugby 10s
>rugby 7s

rugby 1s when?

>>74628952
Rugby 30s would be more marvelous. Imagine scrums with 14 forwards in each side.

Lions screwed up what would have been a GOAT round for me in SuperBru.

It doesn't matter though, CasuallyElite Ltd. is back in business and I WILL be going back to back.

>>74629031
would it even be possible to pass the defense?

>1 defender every 1,5 meters

You should be watching
This France v Japan game is funny as fuck

>>74629040
>Tip the Canes because they're the good guys
>
>Tip the Farce for a slight upset
>
>Tip the tards because historically they're better
>
>Tip the Loins because they were actually in the finals last year
>

>>74629031
The front rows on both teams would all have broken necks.

>>74629178

We all have bad rounds lad. You just need to learn from your mistakes, such as tipping against the Chiefs.

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>>74629213
IT'S NOT FAIR BROS

THEY'RE THE BAD GUYS HOW DO THEY ALWAYS WIN REEEEEEE

>>74628140
Underrated post ťbh

>>74629266
Chiefs are the REAL good guys.

Take the manapill kid

Highlanders are bad guys but have been punished enough with injuries 2bh
Crusaders are bad guys
Hurricanes are bad guys because they are the current champs but look to be back to their typical form
Chiefs are bad guys
Blues are bad guys


Hurricanes and Highlanders are the least bad guys out of NZ teams imo

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so, england will obviously take the grand slam and the win record, on top of improving exponentially during the time left until they meet nz in 2018

it will have been quite some time since the ab's have had to play a team that was undeniably their superior

i imagine it would give them quite the motivational spur

>>74629667
Shut up

>>74629667

No. Highlanders and Canes are both neutral because they're irrelevant. The Crusaders are /rug/'s boogeyman and probably the most hated team in the comp, so they're bad guys.

The Blues are the somewhat affable underdog and the Chiefs are the quintessential rugby team. They are what other teams should strive to be, and therefore they are the biggest good guys of them all.

Is Dagg our Brady?

>>74629742
Chiefs are undeniably the bad guys. The always poach players from other regions. They are the team that Aucklanders who like rugby support.
Blues are the bad guys because fuck Auckland.

>>74629742
trip on you sad wanker

blues are shit like raditz
chiefs are like vegeta, they're strong but assholeish
hurricanes and highlanders are gohan/tien, you like to see them win but they mostly dont
crusaders are goku, the best and always win

>>74629798
Wrong.

>>74629798
Manakau is chief's territory, always thought that was weird

>>74629680
a year is a long time in rugby son.

>>74629833
>goku, the best

only mouth breathers like goku

piccolo, vegeta and krillin have always been the greatest dbz characters

fuck the saders

>>74629850
>>74629841
Chiefs supporters were also the most obnoxious champs out of any recent champs. Chiefs are always in the news for beating their wives and strippers. They are not a good guy or even neutral.

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What is your least favourite aspects of rugby union?
For me it's the high attrition rate and commonality of injuries. I want to watch two full strength teams going at eachother for 80.
Case in point the scots against england earlier, or the last time Ireland played Australia. Such a disservie to the sport.
Is having a team full of young Islander boys the only way to avoid that shit?

>>74629907
Elite opinion
Vegeta is objectively the crusaders, perceived bad guys who are ultimately good

>>74629940
This is accurate 2bh

Now compare the teams to Harry Potter characters, you pathetic virgins

>>74629975
Tell me more about your meals for the last week you pretentious cunt

>>74630012
what would you like to know?

>>74628898
Halfpenny looks strung out on horse

>>74630051
>hello darkness my old friend

>>74629927
the fact that it's a rich man, public school sport in certain countries, and the gap in skill between the world tiers, and even between teams who share the same tier

i just want to see more teams outside of the old boy's club of nations who play it currently to perform well and have competitive matches

>>74630121
That's wherea t least european club rugby is a good alternative for us at least.
Pitty it seems that the nz franchises are becoming increasinly dominant in super rug, as I said earlier in teh thread I want so bad for the fucking aus franchises to come good. Same with italy for that matter but lets be realistic.

Like china are saying they're going to invest 100 mil in rugby over the coming years yet I bet iot comes to naut. So insular at times.

>>74630222
yep, aus in general worries me

i was excited by argentina and japan's emergence but it seems to have coincided with australia and south africa's falling apart

in a way, i think that nz and england being where they are atm doesn't actually bode all that well for the sport overall

Who #Japan2019 here?
Looking at those Japanese capsule hotels, they seem cool as fuck and cheap.

>>74630418
Will there be any price hikes because of the world cup or will most of Japan not even know its going on?

4000 yen for one night which is around £30
For that you get your capsule, a locker for your stuff and a shower, plus all the other amenities.

>>74630557
I'm keen to go halves with somebody on a pod if that works

>>74630557
How expensive are regular/cheaper hotels in UK fue comparison?

>>74630418
I was meaning that learn Japanese 2 years ago for it but I haven't even started

I'd really like to go and am a bit enamoured with Japan but my natural xenophobia has me skeptical how I'd enjoy myself

>>74630518
It's just before the Olympics there but I reckon most wont know at all and it won't impact the prices either

It'd be like Ireland hosting the Peruvian panpipes world festival, a bit of a gimmick with zebo impact on the vast majority of the 270 million population

>>74630557
Drunken English wankers will NOT be tolerates there

>>74630665
>spending a night in close proximity to shitspouter after rugby and drinking
I'm pretty sure it's one person per pod but you could probably fit three in there. Also they separate genders to different floors.

>>74630665
>ywn spoon in a pod with your /rug/ bros

>>74630747
Around £60 for a premier inn room per night, which is like a standard hotel chain here. You could probably find cheaper ones owned by regular people but even £30 would be hard to beat here.
I can't imagine the japs would be too happy hosting drunk rugby fans in those capsules though

>>74630772
>I was meaning that learn Japanese 2 years ago for it but I haven't even started
Same here, I actually saved a google doc about learning japanese but lost it. Not a weeb or anything I just find everything about Japan interesting.

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>weeb olympics and RWC within a year

>>74629031
We did something like that at my local club in a memorial match for a lad that died.

80-man maul. It was so fucking dumb, but funny.

>>74630557
you can find 1000 yen per night in the slum

>>74631043
JAPAN
A
P
A
N

Is 4000 yen a night expensive for one of those pod things then?

>>74630121
This.

With it being such a high scoring sport, small diffferences tend to lead to big scores. It's anti-competitive a lot of the times and that takes enjoyment away from the game when you can predict who will win 99% of the time.

However, it does make upsets that bit more special.

>>74630418
I'm gonna couchsurf or stay with the families I did last time. Easy life and free accommodation.

>>74630902
They get money. You get shit digs. It's a win-win for them.

>>74630942
>Not a weeb or anything I just find everything about Japan interesting.
You are pretty much the literal definition of a weeb.

>>74631093
You can literally rent an apartment on airbnb for less than that. Capsule hotels are a one night gimmick or something you crawl into because you're too fucking legless to get back to your own place after a night out.

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Lads the real question is how do we smuggle a qt japanese girl into the pods?

>>74631582
You go to a love hotel and fuck them there.

>>74629975
blues = neville i.e. shit
highlanders = hermione, the patrician's choice but ultimately ineffective
hurricanes = ron, all heart and no substance
chiefs = snape, autistic sperglord who everyone likes for some reason
crusaders = harry, no one likes him but he always comes out on top

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>poo lynn

Rugby.

>>74634282
What the fuck really?

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>>74634282
Oakley "Creek"

Auckland on neo-Atlantis watch

Does no one likes rugby seven?

>>74635139
Sevens is alright

>jafas make fun of the rest of NZ for major natural disasters
>a light drizzle causes wide spread damage

The state of Auckland 2bh

>>74628770
Liverpool were feared in Europe under the Benitez era in general.

>>74629031
You'd need a bigger pitch for that.

>>74629680
If they also get a grand slam in 2018 before facing NZ they could potentially overtake Cyprus.

>>74629927
The head honchos trying to make it become rugby league.

I'd also like it if they stopped the clock more often, but then it's already much better than divegrass.

>>74630518
Likely, but not by much. Rugby isn't that big in Japan, although it's certainly gaining ground.

PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT:

Paul Blart Mall Cop 2 on TV2 at 8:45 after MKR

Lel lads you shouldve seen Lyon-Stade Francais game. SF choked a 16 point away lead in 15 mins, Lyon was awarded two penalty tries and SF picked nasty two yellows, and a red for Papé.

Late night plum clafoutis for dessert

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>>74637608
>choking like a thousandfold Clermont in finals
>meme penalty tries
>red for Papé

Perfect, this is how you recognize a perfect meme Daube14 game. For stuff like that, I'll definitely try to get this one and the Toulon-Jambon one should be a good laugh too.

I'll try to not spoil myself for the Papé RC, but I feel like it is something truely moronic.

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>>74631111
>You are pretty much the literal definition of a weeb.
You are pretty much the definition of what is wrong with this country. Crawl out of your mother's basement and try travelling (preferably without your phone / tablet / pc) beyond the confines of your grotty little suburb.

>>74638740

It's not really an anal raping if you enjoy though really.

>>74638813

S T A T S G O D
T
A
T
S
G
O
D

>>74638813
STATSCHRIST PLEASE FUCK MY BITCH

>>74638813
Based Statsy. Hows the bf lad?

>>74638740
>being offended
>projecting this hard

Lads I'm sick of football and want to start watching rugby league as they seem to care more for the fans and the tickets are reasonably priced. I'm thinking of supporting Widnes as it's my gfs local team, the nearest team to me is Wigan. Is this a bad choice? Supporting Wigan seems like easy mode.

>>74639397
>>>/asp/

>>74639402
>>>/asp/ergers

>>74639402
>trip

>>74638189
I'll spoil it for you, it was a punch on 80th minute. Great game though, 7 tries and mobile teams. Thrilling suspense, but SF choked really hard. Quesada made some wrong calls with the subs, I mean Plisson had a great game, why take him out? At Lyon Michalak-Beauxis was great pair.

>>74639397
>league

>>74639920
No union clubs near me

>>74639950
What about your gf? Any union clubs near her?

>>74639993
Probably Chester

George North has got 71 caps
>24 years old

>>74639950
If you're near Wigan, you're close enough to Sale. Besides that, plenty of local clubs in and around the M62. I support a local, semi-pro club (and play for the 3s)

>>74640105
100 caps may have been a certainty if half of his recent career wasn't spent being knocked the fuck out.

#LeMeilleurChampionnatDuMonde represents

Bordeaux-Bègles 46 - 14 Grenoble
Brive 21 - 19 Too Loose
Lyon 35 - 33 Stade Français
Toulon 82 - 14 Bayonne
Racing Métro 15 - 38 La Rochelle
Pau 18 - 12 Castres

>les jambons de Bayonne
>la ville de Too Loose

next

Clermont - Montpenesburg

1.La Rochelle
2.Clermont
3.Castres
4.Toulon
5.Montpenesburg
6.Pau
7.Racing
8.Bordeaux-Bègle
9.Brive
10.Too Loose
11.Lyon
12.Stade Français
13.Grenoble
14.Jambon de Bayonne

>>74640105
Might get the record for most caps for a winger, assuming his injury trouble clears up (unlikely though)

>>74640538
How good are La Rochelle? Literally seemed to come from nowhere.

>>74641371
Not him.

Yeah, I'm quite amaze by what they're accomplishing so far. I didn't paid attention to them until they beat Toulouse, in a away game.
If I'm not mistaken this is where Loann Goujon and Kevin Gourdon are currently playing at. They have two really solid kickers with Zack Holmes (who they lose to Toulouse next season) and Brock James. They also field a solid center pairing Botia-Aguillon.

Forward-wise, our favorite memester Fat Fuck Truck is also playing there but they also field Jason Eaton, Jony Qovu and Victor Vito.

From what I also heard, they also have a solid financial basis and are developping infrastructures along the lines you can find with Toulouse or Clermont. So, they can have a run for their money for the Top 14, I'm not sure if it is on the long run but I won't discard them too quickly either. Not to mention that, the Poitou-Charentes rugby comity is one of the most performing in youth competitions.

>>74641779
Vito is the most underrated backrower of the last decade

>grappleslip

Scotland

are

>>74644138
I unironically think they'll finish 2nd.

>>74644281
If France lose to Wales, yes, otherwise no

lions tour should just take england starting XV + stander, sexton and hogg

no point fucking around pretending the meme nations have any players of value to lend to the squad

awj is btfo by any of england's picks but they'll probably take him anyway to stop a welsh uprising

>>74645198
>I've heard Stander's name thrown around so I'll assume he's good!

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>>74644138
>>74644281
>>74644620
Two things: how can a Scottish team that has improved so much in the last couple of years suddenly play like the brain-dead veterans' 3rd XV?
And how can a team that played like England did yesterday have played the whole of the last world cup like they didn't know what a rugby ball was?

>>74645198
Furlong > Cole
Murray > Youngs
Liam Williams > Nowell
Hogg >>>>>>>>> Brown

Those are the main places where a non-English player is clearly the better option. Other guys like Sexton, Warburton/Tipuric/Watson or one of the Gray brothers might squeeze in after a good tour as well

AWJ really shouldn't be picked but I suspect he'll make it. Locks really should just be Launchbury/Lawes/Itoje and the Gray brothers. If you were going to take a welsh lock it might as well be Charteris since he does have a unique skill set. AWJ is inferior to the English locks in athleticism and the Scottish locks in work rate. His only real asset is just experience

>>74645951
>Scottish locks in work rate
>literally one tackles and the other prances around like a turbo lanklet
Outside of tackling, J.Gray is basic as fuck

CJ Stander
AB De Villiers
BJ Watling
JP Pietersen

I could go on.Why are these types of nicknames so common in South Africa?

>>74645951
Yes, but the problem is that Gatland will probably take Warburton as captain, and if he doesn't he'll take AWJ.
Personally I'd go for Best to lead. Before this tournament I'd have taken Nel, at least as sub. Now it's definitely Furlogn, with Cole to offer some experience.

The Gray brothers should both tour.

So I'd go for:
1.Marler
2.Best
3.Vunipola
4.Launchbury
5.Lawes
6.Itoje
7.O'Brien
8.Vunipola
9.Murray
10.Ford
11.Fuck, idk. Probably Watson
12.Farrell
13.Joseph
14.Token Welshman in George North
15. Hogg

Bench, I'd probably look at
16.J George
17.Let's take Cole
18.Furlong
19.Haskell for the banter
20.Kruis if he's fit, then if he plays well off the bench, start him
21.Youngs
22.Russell
23.Te'o

>>74645951
>the Scottish locks in work rate
made more tackles and more metres than both Grays at the weekend m8, as well as two lineout steals

How do we fix Jaguares lads

if Biggar is not in the Lions they will lose every game

>>74646366
Let Imhoff play

>>74646347
>not taking Warburton and Tipuric
They manshamed the Irish back row and both made 21 tackles on Friday. Both of them have probably been the best flankers from the home nations this tournament, the only other one to challenge really is Watson. Stander is an 8 moonlighting as a blindside

>>74646347
Mako at tighthead? Furlong is nailed on to start at 3 imo

>>74646347
>two looseheads starting
>two tightheads on the bench
>o'brien
>itoje at 6
>ford
>russell
>te'o

what the actual fuck are you doing son

>>74646474
honestly the worst attempts at a Lions XV I have seen on here

>>74646389
>taking the biggar niggar

>>74646347
>no George North

wew.

>>74646474
After yesterday the Ford-Farrell axis is NEEDED.

>>74647013
soz only now see it because of your fedora le fedora token haha xd meme

Reckon James Short has an outside chance of getting in the England squad for the Argentina tour assuming the squad will be depleted by the Lions tour?

>>74647013
I'm Welsh and I wouldn't necessarily have North starting right now. I'd currently go for Williams-Seymour-Hogg with Daly in the 23 shirt, but if North keeps up his form from Friday he could definitely get back in. He'd still tour though

>>74646474
The Prop mix up was accidental, was mulling over starting Marler or Vunipola then fucked it. Would start Furlong and put Marler on the bench.

I stand by the others though.

>>74646347

Best is fucking shite

>O'Brien

He's lucky to even be starting for Ireland at the moment

>Ford

Why?

>Vunipola at tight head

What?

Your team is bad and you should feel bad.

1. Vunipola
2. Owens
3. Cole
4. AWJ
5. Itoje
6. Stander
7. Warburton
8. Vunipola
9. Murray
10. Sexton
11. North
12. Farrell
13. Joseph
14. Zebo! Lol only joking, Nowell
15. Hogg

16. Jamie George
17. Marler
18. WP Nel
19. Kruis
20. Faletau
21. Webb
22. T'e'o'
23. Daly

Basically the Lions is going to be rubbish.

>those front row options
>the midfield options

Just god awful. There's an embarrassment of riches in the second row but the best tight head we can produce is Dan fucking Cole. And hooker options, jesus christ...

AWJ will be captain and starting

Only person starting over Sexton is Farrell

L. Williams will start

>>74647603
Furlong, Cole and Nel are all better scrummagers than any All Black though and they're decent enough in the loose.

>>74647603
>Not taking Launchbury

>>74647603
>Te'o
>Stander and Vunipola in the same back row with Faletau on the bench
awful back row balance.

>>74647699

Furlong got nullified by Rob Evans yesterday. Dan Cole is hit and miss, Nel doesn't have much time to get fit at all. I'd say tight head is our weakest position after hooker.

>>74647753

I'd take him but who do you boot out? AWJ? Then who's captain?

>>74647808
Kruis because he's been injured and probably won't be Lions fit in time.

>>74647808
Tbh, I'd boot AWJ. With your side, just make Warburton captain again. None of the Welsh, Scottish or Irish second rows should start over Launchbury or Itoje at current performance.
Then but Lawes or Kruis on the bench. AWJ doesn't even bring that much mroe in terms of leadership right now.

>>74647848

Fair enough. Shame for him because he's quality.

>>74647775

I stand by those picks. Centre options are crap and Te'o has proven to be a handy impact player. He's a Gatland wet dream of a back so he'll definitely go.

Stander, and Warburton are the form flankers, Vunipola is the best 8 and Faletau is versatile. Who else would you pick? Haskell? Moriarty? They're much of the sameness.

>>74647910
Huw Jones, Henshaw and Scott Williams are better players than Te'o. Warburton and Tipuric should be the flank pairing with Stander on the bench. I'd take Haskell and maybe Faletau (along with Barclay) though

>>74647903
Launch should definitely start, but looking at the stats for the last round him and AWJ were clearly the best locks with a substantial amount of daylight between them and the rest.

>>74647950

Yesterday ended any chance of Huw Jones being selected to tour. Henshaw has done nothing to warrant selection either but he'll go regardless.

Tipuric will go to New Zealand just because he offers something different to the other 6 backrow gym monkey's but I don't think he's been good enough this tournament to start.

>>74647993
Yet Itoje played flank. And while he's getting better at it, he's still one of the best locks in the world right now. I'd probably include him in a world xv.

Took the day off work because I feel a touch ill
Should I watch the last round of the 6 nations?

>>74648030

Wales V Ireland was game of the weekend.

England/Scotland is a tedious procession but if you fancy watching English try porn then go for it.

>>74648025
>Yesterday ended any chance of Huw Jones being selected to tour
He was about the only Scotland player who didn't damage his chances.
>Henshaw
Been playing out of position. He's a natural 13 forced to play the role of a bosh 12 because Schmidt has even less imagination than Gatland.
>Tipuric
Honestly, Warburton and Tipuric have been carrying >us through the 6N so far. Before the weekend they were genuinely the only good points of the tournament, apart from maybe Owens and Sanjay
>>74648027
Itoje has been playing at lock. Have you actually been watching the rugby? He had 6 on his back but has been playing lock. Either way, his stats were worse than both Warburton and Stander at 6 and the two best locks from the weekend.

>>74648030
nah it was shite

>>74648293

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq20-gIAGtE

Come on, you have to admit this was fun.

When North smashed Kearney I near enough orgasmed on the spot

>>74648358
>kearney mugged off by both North and Williams within 30 seconds
loving every laugh

>>74648280

Joseph was jogging through the Scottish midfield in the first half. Jones was only spared further embarrassment when he got shifted out to the wing.

There's no way Gatland's taking any Scottish backs on yesterdays performance. Going into the match I'd have said Russell, Huw Jones/Dunbar, Hogg and Seymour were touring but now it might only be Hogg.

The biggest loser of the weekend was Finn Russell. RIPIP Lions dreams.

>>74648358
Really wish North would use his size more often like that.

>>74648358
italy france was boring

wales and ireland were both shite

england scotland was academic

pretty shite weekend of rugby all round

>>74648420
Jones only actually missed one tackle (though admittedly not being there to even attempt a tackle is arguably worse). Russell had a horror show though, missed as many tackles as he made.

Any saffers present? How's Poitrenaud doing?

>>74647808
just make Hartley captain. He's not great but has a proven captaincy track record which is damn impressive, and it's not like the other hooker options are so great that he'd be keeping a genuinely awesome player out of the starting team

whereas if you pick AWJ or Warburton you're limiting your second row options in positions where there's legitimate depth

>>74650543
While AWJ isn't nailed on, Warburton pretty much is. Stander carries well at club level and against milquetoast defences but struggles against big teams, Barclay has been playing like a poor man's Warburton and England haven't really played a traditional back row. Haskell is his only real competition for a flank berth and is generally a much more limited player than Sam

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>>74650679

Stander made a fantastic carry against us in the first half on Friday. Ghosted through our midfield and nearly scored. After that we got the measure of him but to be fair, the Welsh defence is one of the most resolute in the world against direct ball carriers.

Still, you'd think having Stander and Vunipola running at Kiwis with Faletau or Haskell coming on for the last 20 would cause serious problems. I imagine Stander would benefit greatly from having another major ball carrying threat in the back row (ie. Vunipola). Would take a lot of attention off of him and he's absolutely brutal in space.

For Ireland he has to line up alongside SOB who's in horrendous form, and Heaslip who is just shit, to be frank.

>mfw Heaslip could be going on his third Lions tour

God help us

>>74650679
>>74651093
I actually think England are on to something with their two proper locks + Itoje strategy. I think that could be pretty effective against NZ. Lots of people are underwhelmed but I actually think Itoje has been getting better and better at 6 the more time he plays there (and that's while he's actually still packing down at lock in the scrum)

>>74648280
He plays lock in scrums, but is 6 in open play.

>>74651131

I guess it depends if you rate Launchbury/AWJ/Gray more highly than Stander or Haskell or whoever, because by shifting Itoje to 6 you're sacrificing a very good flanker.

>>74651093
The problem with picking two carriers against NZ will be that we need to actually win ball. We need a carrier, but gaining turnovers and dominating the gainline defensively will be just as, if not more important than doing it with the ball in hand (especially for a scratch side). Having flankers that can cover a lot of ground, be good for 20+ tackles and a few turnovers is more important than flankers good for 40 carrying yards and half a dozen tackles.
Big carriers have more of a place on the bench I think.

>>74651216
another thing to consider if you had a pack of (hypothetically) Launchbury, Lawes/Gray, Itoje and Tipuric, you've got 4 high-quality line-out options and still get to carry Billy Vunipola at 8. Being able to potentially disrupt the ABs lineout possession could be huge

>>74651216
Itoje is perfect for the bench second row slot IMO. Allows whoever you pick to start in the locks to empty the tank for the first 50 and then bring on someone to up the intensity even further. The bench back row slot is between Haskell/Stander for my money. Playing Farrell at 12 also frees up a bench slot for a specialist impact centre (not Te'o before anyone says it)

>>74651376
Warburton and AWJ are good lineout operators as well. The latter nicked two Irish throws on Friday and disrupted a couple more.

>>74651496
one good performance against italy doesnt discount him being utter dogshit before that

>>74651567
*ireland

>>74651567
>dogshit
Alun-Wyn or Warburton? Warburton has been one of >our best players and apart from a couple of brainfarts AWJ has been fine.

>>74651093
SOB had one of his worst games for us yeah definitely, his carrying is poorer in this team which I think is as a consequence of the coaching

I think he should be given the time and looked at in the latter rounds of the Pro 12 and CC to prove himself

>>74651131
Nah, the Lions could have the upper hand in the backrow and maybe approach parity at lock

Playing Itoje at 6 means youre missing out on either Warburton, Stander, Robshaw etc. which fucks that over

3 locks on the field > 4 backrows if you're getting that from Itoje in the first place idk

>>74652200
>>
meant the opposite ffs

Anyone else think England are peaking too early? For the World Cup I mean.

>>74653122
>years out
>peaking mattering at all this far out

They'll be fine laddy

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>>74653122
They might get cocky but beyond that I dunno.

>>74653122
Thing is, I don't even think they've peaked yet. They're still breaking Sinckler in at tighthead, George will inevitably take over Hartley eventually, plus they've got Underhill to complete their backrow.

Scared Tbh.

>>74653260
Pretty worried about the 2019 RWC in general.

If NZ win they will have singlehandedly killed rugby. But more importantly, of Australia lose they will have gone as long between rugby World Cup wins as New Zealand did between 87 and 07, and I think that would just be too embarrassing for words.

>55,000 people went to Georgia v Russia on the weekend

Georgia added to super rugby when?

>>74654302
>Australia lose they will have gone as long between rugby World Cup wins as New Zealand did between 87 and 07
I have some bad news for you. Aussie is not exactly improving currently.

(((Fonterra milk for schools)))

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USAfag here

I managed to catch a game early this morning (the saints? vs a red/white team)

Anyway. I loved what I was watching. How does one get into this shit if you're stateside

also

Game I watched this morning
>6 Downs then kick

Game I watched on Replay (Reds vs Crusaders)
>10 downs

Are there two different ways in playing?

>>74654620
union doesn't have downs, you have to contest for possesion
league has 6 so that's probably what you watched, what teams where they?

>>74654659
I think it was the saints vs the all blacks? I couldnt catch the names to be honest with you

I know the colors were black vs red/white.

>>74654730
saints are a league team, all blacks are our national union team and they aren't playing atm

but to answer your first question there are 2 codes of rugby, /rug/ is for union which is the original format, /nrl/ is the pathetic poomunity dedicated to league which is a meme format played in Australia and Northern England

>>74654811
Saints are an AFL team mate, unless you're talking about St Helens in the U.K.? You might be think of St George Illawarra (the dragons).

Literally none of the games played this week match this lads description. Dragons played te eels who wear blue and yellow. Closest I can think is reds v crusaders (who wore black and grey).

>>74654870
And the reds are sponsored by st George bank so maybe it was the st george Queensland reds and he got confused.

>>74654870
yeah St George, they're red and white though

>>74654870
He said he watched the reds crusaders game separately to the game that sounds like league so that's not it

>>74654730
Jags vs Lions?

>>74645451
>how can a Scottish team that has improved so much in the last couple of years suddenly play like the brain-dead veterans' 3rd XV?
England suddenly peaked after playing poorly and grinding out wins.
>that's the hallmark of a champion la, grinding out wins despite not playing well

>And how can a team that played like England did yesterday have played the whole of the last world cup like they didn't know what a rugby ball was?
Eddie Jones. Sometimes the coach can make all the difference.

>>74655217
>peaked
Actually rather than that, "found their form" would be more accurate, come to think of it.

>>74629178
>queefs in form and at home

>brumbies at home (although form is questionable)

>sharks the form SA team against a waning australian side

all terrible picks to be franklin

>>74655735
The farce beat the speds, and bumboys looked fairly poorious against the sharks so I went for the upset
trusting the tards was a mistake, and the queefs are in good form (hate them though)

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Teams currently on pace to beat the B&I Lions:
>chiefs
>hurricanes

Teams that need to sort their shit out:
>blues
>crusaders
>highlanders

>>74656545
even though the crusaders performed shit against the Reds, they will still BTFO the loins
This is the northern hemisphere we're talking about

>>74615538
>16:00 England v Scotland, Twickenham
>61-21
Wasn't Scotland supposed to be the black horse of the tournament? What the hell happened? And they looked helpless too.

>>74656617
England finally managed to git gud and Scotland weren't prepared for that.

>>74619383
That's pretty silly, but how did this happen?
Is it the infamous ""racial quota"" debacle or something? I remember the "All Whites" being a thing when they lost to Japan in the WC.

tfw nostalgia
http://archive.4plebs.org/sp/thread/61982615/

>>74656628
Missed coupla games, but the previous results and the hype from commentators made me think the Scots would do way better.
Same thing with Ireland too.

>>74656606
With those injuries racking up they wont

>>74654659
>>74654811

Pretty sure he watched St. Helens vs Hull in the Super League.

My morning Irish was so formless and pathetic it looked like a scottish

Just took a massive sloppy Finn lads. Rough as guts.

>>74653260
>complete the back row
Underhill is a good player but he's not really anything different, he's very much in the Haskell mould.

Did a rancid putrid Mongol Finn after a night on the sauce yesterday. Nearly had to get the hazmat suits out.

>>74656691
My guess is they got caught off guard by how much better England performed than they expected, started off poorly as a result, and never quite got the momentum; every try they scored was immediately replied in kind.

As long as Ireland and France don't win (which looks to be pretty likely) they can still get second with a BP win over Italy.
>implying Wales will get a BP win over France

>>74656877
replied to*

>>74656877
Wales might get a BP win against France. Their playing style goes right into the hands of an Edwards defence and the backline seems to have clicked a lot more on Friday.

>>74656660
>literally teared up a bit reading that

That was the single greatest upset in the history of sport. And we got to share it with one another lads.

>>74656893
>Wales getting 4 tries in France
Doubtful.

>>74656913
Not likely, but definitely possible. The opportunities were there to get a 4th try against Ireland, a bit better decision making and they would have done

>>74656925
True. Guess Scotland will have to statpad against Italy then.

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>>74656660
godtier game

Is Joe Schmidt a fraud?
>zebo (0) slams
>exposed vs Argentina
>exposed vs Gatlandball multiple times
>only won both 6N because of points difference
>picks mediocre/out of position players and when he accidentally selects good players tells them to play exactly the same thing the mediocre ones were doing

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Is he ok?

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/rugby/watch-dan-carter-posts-weird-black-and-white-sunday-funday-vid-after-being-booed-off-racing-92-crowd

>>74657093
He's coming back to NZ to play for the Chiefs. It's the only way he will gain his mana back.

>>74656660
>Trying to enjoy one of the greatest rugby moments in history
>Retards spamming "hurrdurr scotland must be shaking"

ABS is a mental illness.

>>74657093
>retire as a hero from the all blacks
>fade into obscurity
>get caught drink driving
>lose all your sponsors
>get kicked out of your retirement plan
JUST

>>74657105
If I had to live in current France I would also drink myself into oblivion

>>74657105
>phone in shit performances, clearly just clock watching and collecting bank
Don't blame the bloke, I'd be doing the same, but he did bring it all on himself.

>>74657103

Somebody find that Australia vs Scotland QF thread lol

>>74657118
>Scots claiming refball
>scottishscrummaging.jpg

>>74657105
Just shows he was a system babby. I mean what has he won outside of the Saders and All Blacks when the whole system was designed to protect and carry him?

Real players need to win Super Rugby, some form of world cup AND a Top 14 title.

Not many fly halves can boast that, but the ones who do are infinitely better than Dan Sharter

>>74657145
He won the Top 14 last year.

He was man of the match in the final.