/nfl/ General: Jake Utler Edition

>CB Logan Ryan agreed to terms with #Titans, per his agents.

CIN: All hope is lost, first three picks must be wasted on developing O-line talent

>>74596473
Titans are really a good team now.

if romo doesnt go the texans they have that division easy.

So where is Cutler going?

>>74596486
Why is Cincy so cheap when it comes to re-signing offensive linemen? IIRC they were always like this under Lewis.

>>74596473
Farewell dud, I always liked him

Have fun with JMC

>>74596498
To back up vince young in sasquatchewan

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https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=177151401

>>74596500

lewis conditioned mike brown to focus on defense first, notice that all our money since the '09 playoff run has been heavily d-oriented

>>74596514
vince ain't even starting up there

>>74596498
To the fridge.

>49ers signed WR Aldrick Robinson, formerly of the Falcons, to a two-year contract.

watch out seahawks

>>74596526
>09 playoff run

Wasn't much of a run

>>74596531
>Warner had a bad attitude
you don't know what you're talking about, kill yourself

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>>74596486
welcome to the support group my brother.
it wasn't supposed to be like this.
>free agency is the bargaining phase of the grief cycle when you realize your season is already over before its begun

>it's another dozens of players signed at midnight episode

>>74596526
>Bengals
>playoff run
More like a short walk to the fridge and back.

So about these "visits", are players actually flying around the country or are they just sitting in their home offices with the phone?

>>74596526
'09 playoff run
more like getting out of the chair to stretch and then sitting back down again

>>74596600

both

>>74596600
They are flying around the country and usually having an athletic tryout, unless they're injured.

>>74596550
>>74596583
>>74596604

when we were near .250 over the previous 15 years it felt like a run to us

The 49ers are signing Matt Barkley,

says some internet guy

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>>74596549
you literally copped to talking out of your ass.
>hurr Brees was shit in San Diego because I remember one bad season he had
end yourself shitlord

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This man was QB the last time Cincinnati had a run. Good old, Phil Simms.

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>>74596550
those were better days

>>74596557
They're not wrong

Warner started the same way brady did, except he was a good QB with a shit personality and fragile body.

>Lacy visiting Seahawks

His fat ass would probably stop more people than our line does.

>>74596646

>Bring Lacy in, sign him as a FB at 1.5m a year.

>>74596644
Not him, but what do you mean by shit personality? I remember everyone liking Warner because he was such a good teammate, the worst part of him was that he was annoying with his christfaggotry but no teammate seemed to be bothered by it.

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>>74596644
Warner was a fucking boy scout, what the fuck is this about him having a bad attitude?

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>>74596646
Has anyone seen what lacy looks like nowadays?

Are the Pats retarded? Why would they just spend 65m on Gilmore in order to ship away Butler for a meme WR?

Brady has already shown it doesn't matter who you give him on the outside

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>The state of the Washington R******s

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Hightower is my last hope before I kill myself desu

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>>74596644

> QB with a shit personality

>>74596662
Warner was basically Tebow but good at pro football. Dunno what anon is talking about but he obviously doesn't know shit about him.

>>74596663
It's the same faggot with the reddit spacing, he keeps inventing bullshit on the spot. First he claimed Brees was shit, then Manziel asked to be released, now Warner had a bad attitude. Just ignore him.

Warner's issue wasn't his attitude, it was the fact that he could never string together two consecutive solid seasons, he would either get hurt and turn to shit, that's why he always had guys like Brunell, Leinart, and Eli breathing down his neck.

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>>74596674

Packers fucking suck.

>>74596691

*Bulger

>>74596662
Nah he wasn't, after the SB loss he became a complete asshole and even on the cardinals rubbed people the wrong way.

You can tell by the way he hates Brady and Manning for "stealing" his spotlight".

>>74596663
>boy scout

NFL, not pedo shit m8

>>74596691
You mean Bulger. Mike Martz' Rams replacing Warner with Bulger was the dumbass move of the century, the Rams STILL haven't recovered from it.

Hey wheres that faggot saying garrapolo will stay with the pats and take a pay cut to ride pine out of some sense of loyalty or bellicheck worship. I want you ta make more funny posts like that

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>>74596703

Why won't Brock answer my texts

>>74596674
>questioning the pats
I hate those fuckers but I doubt nothing they do.

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>Sign Alshon to prove it deal
>Sign Smiff to prove it deal
>Sign Warmack to prove it deal
>Have no money to sign draft picks
Anyone want Mychal Kendricks?

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>>74596464

>>74596662
That guy doesn't know what he's talking about. Warner was a consummate teammate for the entirety of his pro career, hell he even went to the Cardinals with the intention of being a backup to Leinart to mentor the guy, he never expected to be a starter again. He's gone on record as saying he should've never started in 2004 and Eli should've started the whole season. He was just happy to be in the NFL.

>>74596710
talk out of your ass some more idiot

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>>74596719
Me on the left

>>74596731

49ers should make that trade

>>74596710
>he hates Brady and Manning for "stealing" his spotlight"
Nigger are you on crack

>>74596644
Warner has a fantastic personality. End yourself my dude

>>74596703
fuck off sneak

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Who /NFCEast/ here and worried about their shit secondary

>>74596731
Send him to Minnesota to pair with his brother
we'll give you Jarius Wright, we heard you're buying up all the WRs

>>74596674

>questioning the meme science of darth hoody, the guy talking about how behind they are to the rest of the NFL while in middle of a superbowl win, 1 day out.

>>74596663
/sp/ faggots who arnt old enough to remember him play. Literally the nicest most generous guy you could meet. Selfless player with loads of heart

>>74596662
>warner
>team player

"No", Warner was a power freak and his christfag shit got his gay team mate kicked if you remember. He wasn't a bad person but his attitude was cutler tier.

>>74596745
Kek, is Brock delivering pizza now?

>>74596710
Literally fake news

>>74596744
Yep, he was humble as fuck because he was originally undrafted and cut by the Packers and had to stock shelves in a warehouse to make a living, and then work his way back to the NFL through a shitty developmental league in Europe. That kind of stuff ensures you won't develop a diva attitude and will be grateful for every year of playing in the pros.

>>74596710
>You can tell by the way he hates Brady and Manning for "stealing" his spotlight"
end your life my man

>>74596779

The guy that went from bagging groceries to millionaire is not who you are painting and nobody is buying that shit.

>niners to sign Matt Barkley
I honestly can't tell what this niners team is gonna be like.

>>74596668
>What's wrong, Aaron-kun? Could it be you're...craving my McNuggies?

>>74596794
A good football team

>>74596779
>his attitude was cutler tier
This is a shit bait even by /sp/ standards

>old man yells at clouds
https://twitter.com/iankenyonnfl/status/839971286092840960

Alright normally I just lurk but I feel I must speak out. Warner was a class act, anon you are a fucking moron saying otherwise like I legit hope you catch the hiv live long enough for them to find the cure and have your autism filled body reject it. That being said, go Raiders.

>>74596770

It's worse than that my man, there is a shit tier sitcom called Life in Pieces that had Warner as a guest star and he played himself as if he were a super asshole, so these spergs are just echoing some made up CBS sitcom bs.

>niners actually making smart moves in the offseason
What is going on?

>>74596779
>got his gay team mate kicked if you remember
Are you talking about Kerry Rhodes? Warner had been retired for years before the rumors of Rhodes being gay started to surface, and Warner fucking defended him, shut the fuck up.

>>74596800
(You)

>>74596779
The gay guy from mizzou? Warner wasnt even on the team then and he was cut because he was trash. Snead cant draft for shit

>>74596758
>Jarius Wright
no thanks.

>>74596794
Crap Charlie pure unadulterated crap, which is actually a step up from last year.

>>74596794
Not good but an improvement of the niners team last year

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>>74596779

Round 1 Pick 14: Sidney Jones, CB, Washington

Round 2 Pick 43: Tre'davious White, CB, LSU

Round 3 Pick 74: Joe Mixon, RB, Oklahoma

Round 4 Pick 119: Chris Godwin, WR, PSU

Round 4 Pick 139: Samaje Perine, RB, Oklahoma

Round 5 Pick 155: Alex Anzalone, LB, Florida

Round 6 Pick 194: Ejuan Price, DE, Pittsburgh

Round 7 Pick 230: Damontee Kazee, CB, San Diego State

>>74596790
>Warner was known for being an asshole
>he a gud good boy he bought mammy groceries from da sto

Note I said after his SB loss he became a prick, not during his prime.

>>74596819
I needed that

>>74596826
Hey he ain't bad my dude, we just don't need him because he's a slot receiver and we got Thielen now so he's expendable. He's gotta be better than Jordan Matthews.

>>74596779
>being such a sodomite you start inventing slander about Kurt just for believing in Jesus
baka senpai

>>74596847
>Joe Mixon
No thanks

>>74596854
Ive also noted that youre a complete fucking fag who talks out his ravaged anus

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>>74596854

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Hey reg... Are we doing the be contenders , win 1 bowl then waste tremendous talent ala Aaron Rodgers route or perennial champs ala pats

>>74596870
*tips*

>>74596847
Is Sidney Jones BPA at 14, or is someone on the board better?

>>74596854
>Note I said after his SB loss he became a prick, not during his prime
cool. you're still wrong though.

>>74596871
>a samefag thinking his opinion matters

>>74596879
Aww, what's the matter, don't like your QB being exposed?

>>74596815
He's just a Backup

>>74596854
Actually it was someone else in that game who got super bitter about losing to the Pats, that one nigger who kept screaming IT AIN'T OVER TILL IT'S OVER on the sidelines all game. Forgot who it was.

>>74596887
>implying
That's just not the RB I want

>>74596897
>resorting to ad hom because you get exposed for lying
pottery

>>74596881
you act like winning one superbowl doesn't own

flag fly forever

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>>74596897
>exposed?
only thing that's exposed is your prolapsed anus.

>>74596881
Bro I fucking owl in my lifetime is all I fucking want. I pray to god that it's delivered by none other than Carr since he graduated from my alma mater. I would die a happy man desu.

>>74596892
I'm not wrong. Warner blames brady for his career hitting the shitter, believes Manning is a cheater and became a bitter washed up overrated dickhead by the time he was a Cardinal. Fitzgerald didn't like him either and hes an actual class player.

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Is this guy going to win his 3rd OWL with the GOAT this season? I believe so. They got him some big time assistance today.

Just stop replying to this faggot and he'll fuck off

>>74596911
That was Ricky Proehl. His son is going to the draft next year out of North Carolina.

>>74596933

No I dont care if you reply, im here forever

>>74596881
winning just one owl would be a miracle

>>74596881
>haven't won a single playoff game in 14 years
>already talking about whether they're going to win "only" 1 owl
You faggots are Eagles tier delusional

>>74596915
>resorting to muh adhom because you are an obvious samefag

>>74596930
Warner is going into the HOF and he has said his career hit a dip because his head wasn't in it, he never once blamed Brady or Manning. you are talking out of your ass.

>>74596890
for our needs, unless lattimore is on the board or someone crazy falls, jones would be BPA

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If we can keep Hightower, not trade Butler, and trade Jimmy G to the Browns for shitloads of picks, this will have been the GOAT offseason

>>74596710
The only thing he did wrong was marry a used up fugly slut that had like 3 kids already

>>74596960
39 posters in this thread and about half of them have called you a liar, try again

>>74596959
Eat my ass

>>74596764
>>74596729
But with even most decisions there is rationale, I see no reason to be in basically the same or worse situation corner wise but with Cooks

Unless BB knows Butler is about to die or something

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>>74596847
>Godwin on Day 3

>>74596979
>and trade Jimmy G to the Browns for shitloads of picks
The most you'll get is a handful of seconds and thirds. After today, there's no way that the Browns are stupid enough to give up their first rounders for wop.

>>74596932
>first dude

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>>74596933
>>74596969
>career hit a dip because his head wasn't in it
>literally admitting he was a cutler tier asshole
>is in tape being a salty cunt about Brady and Manning and their success

Argument over pudo.

>>74596986
I'm not Californian enough to do that

ELITE TIER
- Jaguars
- Eagles
- Patriots
- Browns

GOOD TIER
- Buccaneers
- Ravens
- Giants
- Bills

OKAY TIER
- Titans
- Packers
- Rams
- 49ers
- Dolphins
- Saints

IT'S LITERALLY NOTHING TIER
- Bears
- Falcons
- Cowboys
- Chargers
- Broncos
- Chiefs
- Colts
- Lions
- Steelers
- Texans
- Vikings
- Seahawks

AYY LMAO ARE YOU EVEN TRYING TIER
- Bengals
- Redskins
- Cardinals
- Panthers
- Jets
- Raiders

>>74596998
Speaking as a Brownsfag, it's very realistic they'll trade their #12 pick plus something extra for Jimmy if Trubisky or Watson won't be there. But they aren't getting the #1 pick no matter what, Garrett is going to be a Brown.

>>74596881

I guarantee you Carr us going to make it to an OWL in next 5 years. He is talented, a leader, experienced and close good family, and has a strong Christian faith that focuses him. He is also humgry now that he was close. He is a lot like Brady. Carr, Garroppolo, might be the future. After the GOAT retires.

>>74596979
You're such a horrible pats trip

Literally every Raiders is Mexican. Prove me wrong

>>74597018
Lolol the only time the jags are ever at the top of anything.

>>74596998
>implying the Browns won't Brown it
They got a ton of picks for the Julio pick, did nothing with it. They got a 1st round pick for Trent fucking Richardson and still lost the trade

>>74597001
>is in tape being a salty cunt about Brady and Manning and their success
source or end yourself

>>74597029
Manziel could have been something if he weren't such a fucking spoiled brat.

>>74596987

Just accept that they see something that you don't. It's what Sith Lords, 'do' brah.

>>74597018
>OKAY TIER
>- Packers
Is fleeing a team like rats on a sinking ship now okay?

>>74597018
>rams on the okay teir
A 40 year old lineman and a literal who receiver after letting a 1000 yard receiver walk. Great use of the second most cap space

>>74597018

>winning free agency

If the Eagles passing game explodes, will Wentz be a Jeffery Babby, a Smith Babby, an Ertz Babby, or a Pedersen Babby?

>>74597020
No way they give up the 12 for jimmy g. Not after today. Bb should have jumped on that while he could

>>74597052
All of the above

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>>74597023
im white as fuck

>>74597020
I'm a Brownsfag too, and I'm just not seeing it. Especially with all of these actual QB moves being made, I have to think there's going to be someone available at 12. This FO actually seems to understand the value of picks, and they're not just going to give the Dark Lord an arsenal for handsome Jimmy.
>>74597029
Different FO, doesn't count anymore. Please forget about that, we were all on vacation.

>>74597018
Packers should be abyss tier.

>losing Hyde
>losing Lang
>losing Tretter
>losing Peppers
>signing some literally who situational passrusher to a 60 million contract

The Packers are ran by a bunch of utter imbeciles, if they didn't have Aaron Rodgers they would be Jaguars or Browns tier.

>>74597052
jordan matthews babby

>>74597051
The browns

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>>74597072
>Nelson Agholor babby

>>74597072
I'm glad he'll be playing where he belongs. He's not a great WR1

>>74597052
sure as fuck won't be a Zach 'goes down from one hit and pads his stats in meaningless games' Ertz babby

>>74597041
Has Gilmore even played at that kind of level? He literally got exposed here safety help or not by a white lax player

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R317Rdhw2Gg

>>74597089
Never count out Zach Ertz in the last 4 games of the season

>>74597058
But he still can, draft is still far away and the Browns still don't have a QB (unless you think they're gonna play Osweiler, in which case you're wrong).

>>74597067
>someone available at 12
I'm thinking the 49ers and Bears will pick Trubisky and Watson respectively, there's no QB talent worth shit after that until the 2nd round.

>they're not just going to give the Dark Lord an arsenal for handsome Jimmy
If Hue Jackson understand one thing, he understands QB play. If he thinks Jimmy is the guy then you bet we will offer the 12.

>>74597065
Nice try Pablo, you're not fooling me puto

>>74597001
>literally admitting he was a cutler tier asshole
It's not even how it was, that's just Warner being a good guy and taking the blame to be a good teammate. The problem in St. Louis was hand injuries and Mike Martz being a shit coach, and his problem in New York was Tom Coughlin never wanting him and being a nitpicky asshole about his playing style.

>>74597095
Zach "score when we're out of contention and sign a big extension" Ertz

>>74597029
>They got a ton of picks for the Julio pick
Different owner, different GM, different coaches, the only thing they have to do with those Browns is the name.

>>74597099
What im saying is browns wont offer a first rounder for garropalo after today went so well

NFC___________
1) Seahawks 13-3
2) Giants 12-4
3) Buccaneers 10-6
4) Lions 10-6
5) Cardinals 10-6
6) Falcons 9-7

AFC____________
1) Raiders 12-4
2) Bengals 11-5
3) Patriots 11-5
4) Titans 9-7
5) Chiefs 11-5
6) Ravens 10-6

>>74597023
Some of them are niggers and some of them are those white obese mallgoth juggalos who wear face paint and Halloween costumes to games.

>>74597136
>seahawks 13-3
Stopped reading there. Get this trash out of here

>>74597090
>Pats spent $65m on this

>>74596713
More proof that Pats can't understand football. Can't wait for Brady to retire so all the """knowledgable""" pats fans fuck off

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>>74596979
why are pats fans so hell bent that the Browns will take the bait? no one wants the overvalued wop who played a game and half before injuring himself. You'll be lucky to get a second round pick for him let alone a bunch of firsts. That shit only works if Brady's the one getting traded.

Pats should be more focused on keeping Butler and Hightower than muh Jimmy G value

>>74597151
Pats fans*

>>74597136
>seahawks best record in football
>cowboys missing the playoffs
>loins above 500
Is this a joke?

>>74597132
>Pats offer the Saints the #32 pick for Cooks
>Saints tell them to fuck off unless they get a top 20 pick
>Browns need a QB
>Browns take on the Osweiler deal so they can get a 2nd round pick and possibly a 3rd-4th round pick if they trade him away
>Browns will then send the #12, 2nd round and 3rd round to the Pats for Jimmy
>Pats will then send the #12 to the Saints for Cooks

You can absolutely bet your ass Belichick and Payton are behind all this shit that's been happening today.

>>74597090
Gilmore is so goddamn inconsistent it's maddening. Sometimes he looks like Nnamdi Asomugha in Oakland and sometimes he looks like Nnamdi Asomugha in Philly.

I dunno, I guess Bill feels like he can make better use of Gilmore than Rex Ryan did. It's an iffy signing but if there's one person I trust to know what they're doing defensively it's Bill Belichick.

>>74597151
I feel the same way about the Pats as I do about the Seahawks. Great team, great coach, but a cancerous fanbase full of bandwagon faggots and literal retards.

>>74597136
>bungles over 8 wins
>ravens over 5 wins
>no browns
you're not even trying

>>74597165
Nice greentext. Never happen

>>74597136
ftfy

NFC___________
1) ARI 13-3
2) ATL 12-4
3) DAL 11-5
4) GB 10-6
5) NYG 10-6
6) SEA 9-7

AFC___________
1) NE 13-3
2) PIT 11-5
3) LV 11-5
4) HOU 9-7
5) BAL 10-6
6) MIA 10-6

>>74597170
I would just rather have Butler, Cooks is not needed at all

Brady with Gronk is literally enough of an offense

>>74597018
>Packers
>Okay tier
Change that to JUST tier

>>74597177
Wasted dubs. Also you'll see I'm right, this is exactly what they're trying to do.

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>>74597183
>1) ARI 13-3

>>74597172
I would like Tom Brady if he played for any other team. Before 2007 I liked him way more than Peyton.

>>74597187
Too bad Gronk is made of glass and the Pats could definitely use a blazing fast good route runner instead of just some hustle faggot like Edelman.

>>74597165
Jimmy G is not Julio Jones.
Browns aren't gonna fall for that shit.

>>74597205
I still like Tom Brady and Belichick too.

>>74597187
Agreed. Cooks isn't worth whatever the Saints want for him and I'd prefer Butler over Gilmore.

Who knows, maybe the Pats get lucky and get to have both. Depends on Butler's market and what the Pats would have to pay to keep him.

>>74597210
Gronk just needs to not play as often especially when just blowing out trash teams

>>74597214
If Jimmy actually is a real franchise QB material (doubt it) then he should be far more valuable than Julio.

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>>74597204
BITE YOUR TONGUE!!!

>New Bills coach Sean McDermott has removed a pool table and video games from the teams locker room.

Was it Xbones or PS4s?

>>74597187
Their #1 receiver is an injury ridden 30 year old white manlet while their top tight end spends more time on IR than on the field. Pats have the most overachieving offense of all time.

>>74597170
>Gilmore is so goddamn inconsistent it's maddening

Butler, Gilmore and Rowe is better than what we had in 2014 honestly. Revis slugged out by the packers game, Browner was flagged frequently.
>arrington in slot

Ryan will be missed though.

>>74597183
>5) NYG 10-6

Why is everyone on the giants dick lately?

>>74597183
Didn't Arizona lose like half of their defense today in addition to not doing anything about the QB situation? So you've basically got David Johnson, Honeybadger and Peterson that's it, the rest is either old and washed up or just mediocre.

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>>74597251
DELET THIS

>>74597247
Because they have Tom Brady, spending money on an already elite secondary instead of a pass rusher or legit wideout is retarded

>>74597248
Pats might not get to keep Butler though and you're not gonna convince me the Pats are better off than they were in 2014 without him. also Rowe sucks as bad as Arrington so it's a wash.

Agreed if they do keep Butler though

someone post the team chart template with the colors based on how good someone is

>>74597242
Neo Geo AES

>run d. johnson 400 times
>pass to d. johnson 100 times
>win 3 games
>gud seasson
>leater Carson
>gg Larry
>here is ur extension mr Areains

>>74596500
It's a little hard to compete when the browns are throwing record breaking contracts at them while having 100million plus cap space

>>74597247
It amazes me Brady has 300yd games.

Edelman is shit, Hogan is overrated, amendola is glass, gronk is glass, oline is trash.

I'm a packers fan so I'm used to Rodgers moaning when Nelson is covered.

>>74597280
>you will never be a millionaire football player in the early 90s who could afford Neo Geo

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>Patsfags complaining

>>74597306
>edleman is shit


???

>>74597269
>Rowe sucks as bad as Arrington

Not even close, Rowe was great in the playoffs save for that one spectatular catch Julio made. You're thinking of Jones.

>>74597189
Youre wayyyyyy over valuing jimmy g. 3 games and an injury doesnt make him derek carr

>>74597303
Zeitler said that Cincy didn't even offer him a contract at all, basically just told him to go out and try his luck on the market. OL is one of the units that's actually important as fuck to invest money into.

>>74597306
The "Pats have a trash oline" meme is really outdated now, Shaq Mason and Cannon are literally top 3 at their positions and Solder is a great LT (aside from the Owl)

But yeah pretty much, if Brady gets time you can't stop him because of how quickly he can process reads

>>74597251
Its another "Seattle Wins the NFC W" episode

>>74597321
Dude he drops half bof what comes at him.

His former quickness is irrelevant with age.

>>74597306
300 yard games aren't impressive when you throw the ball 40-50 times a game.

>>74597339
It's gonna be the Hasselbeck era all over again, with Seattle winning the division every year and the other three teams being all sub .500

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All the eagles haters quiet and nowhere to be found after we signed Alshon Jeffrey a huge pickup
Torrey Smith will be taking agholors spot and an upgrade at that, much faster guy to take the top off the defense
Chance warmack was a low-key great pickup for 1 million given his pedigree, a signing just like Brandon Brooks but for a fraction of the price if he works out
Either way we stilled retained our LG from last year if warmack doesn't work out
Those haters are praying we don't land fournette now

>>74597339
Well considering they have 0 competition for it sure. 8-8 will win that shit show

>>74597336
>Shaq Mason and Cannon are literally top 3 at their positions

wut, mason is trash at pass blocking and cannon literally collasped again in the playoffs. Admittedly he played good for half the season.

>>74597319
Pretty much

They've already fucking won FA by resigning Duron Harmon for way less money than he could have gotten, signing Stephon Gilmore who is a far better CB than Logan Ryan and swapping a 4th rounder for a 6th to get Dwayne Allen

If they get two 1st rounders + for Jimmy G they are gonna make a run at 19-0 this year

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>>74597306
>edelman shit
he was actually incredibly reliable from 2013 all the way up to his injury in 2015. Since then he's been on the downturn. Plus the oline has been great since Scar came back. Other than that you're right. The fact that Brady is still putting up great stats with Gronk (whose always hurt) being his only star is a miracle.

>>74597327
Being the Jacoby Jones of the 2016 Pats' postseason run doesn't make Rowe good. Let's see him do it for more than a handful of games before we start calling him good. I recall Arrington having strong stretches early on before he completely vanished too.

>>74597321
Edelman is fucking dreadful. Manlet, injury prone, slow as fuck, drops a ton of passes. His only positive is that he runs good routes, the fact Brady turned him into a semi-respectable name is akin to whip stitching a turd.

>>74597375
They wont get one first much less two plus

So how much of a window will the Browns have? Big Ben probably has 2-3 years left. Ravens front office is top tier and will build a competitor. Bengals are probably fucked for awhile. What kind of time frame are we looking at?

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>>74597336
>Shaq Mason and Cannon are literally top 3 at their positions

Dats some bullshit

>>74597336
It's literally all Patriots fans and tripfags who were complaining non stop about their offensive line nigga
Especially cannon

>>74597373
http://www.patspulpit.com/2017/1/25/14365016/pff-patriots-rg-shaq-mason-and-rt-marcus-cannon-rank-1-at-position-since-bye-week

Cannon literally removed Vic Beasley from the Owl, Solder is the one that got his beat hard

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>tfw mediocre Oline soon

>>74597375
Even as inconsistent as Gilmore is he's a great get for the Pats. Bill knows how to maximize the abilities of players like him

see: Aqib Talib, who was exactly the same kind of player in TB before being traded to NE

>>74597398
Time frame? For what?

>>74597375
Two first rounders, no way. Even a single first round is overpaying the fuck out of him.

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>>74596881
Reggie Friday is tomorrow bitch, cheer up.
Also I think this season is more in line with how Reggie will normally conduct FA, he was trained in Green Bay after all

>>74597403
Last year it was deserved to be fair

>Rams dealt DL William Hayes and a seventh-round pick to the Dolphins for a sixth-rounder.

>Rams dealt DL William Hayes and a seventh-round pick to the Dolphins for a sixth-rounder.

>>74597398
I suspect they'll have their run in 2020. If Ben and Flacco retire, and Marvin Lewis is fired/the organization blows up, the Browns should be in the perfect spot of rebuild to capitalize. Hard to forecast the rest of the league though.

>>74597398
Ravens are going to be stuck going 8-8 type seasons until they have the balls to admit the Flacco contract was a mistake

>>74597348
https://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/drops/2016/

Apparently 3.1% = 50% now. Neat.

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>>74597136
>Seahawks 13-3

Looks all right to me.

>>74597408
One guy I will never understand is Nate Solder. Whenever I watch him play, he's just fucking awful. Not even average but actually dogshit. Playing the wrong technique, letting rusher inside whenever Brady steps up, planting with the wrong foot, whatever. Half the time I see him holding onto the rusher with dear life and sometimes it gets uncalled, but that's just pure luck rather than skill. I played DIII football as a tackle and I would be straight up benched if I played like him yet this fucker somehow gets to be the starter for the best team in the NFL. It absolutely boggles my mind.

>>74597387
>recall Arrington having strong stretches

He didn't, he was the bane of our secondary. Rowe was a solid corner as the season progressed and so long as he's average hes x10 better than Arrington was.

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>>74597403
in 2015 maybe

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>>74597136
>Ravens with a winning record

k

Why dies everyone think browns are giving away multiple firsts for jimmy g? Theyre throwing money around like this because they habe 100 million to blow. Picks are much more valuable. I doubt they even get the 12 for him. Do pats fags really think hes the next brady?

>>74597136
>Bengals 11-5
>Ravens 10-6
>Lions 10-6
>Cardinals 10-6

Sorry dude but you're a retard.

>>74597136
>Patriots just by virtue of getting Gronk back are literally a better team than last year
>11-5

lol

>>74597458
Because Mary Kay Cuntbot from Cleveland.com invented a story that Pats want two firsts and now every dipshit journalist is running with it and /sp/ apparently too.

>>74597458
he doesnt have to be brady to be worth a first rounder

>>74597458
>Do pats fags really think hes the next brady?
I think the issue is that they think that Hue thinks that he will be for sure, which lets them come up with these fantastic scenarios where they give up every pick for the next five years just to even look at Jimmy Wop

>>74597408
Beasley was hardly pass rushing in the owl

Cannon gave up 2 sacks and 4+ hits

>>74597375
>They've already fucking won FA by resigning Duron Harmon for way less money than he could have gotten

Nigger are you high? Butler and Hightower aren't signed.

>>74596712
>>74596712
Kek rasm.

>>74597431
Is that the guy that doesn't believe in dinosaurs?

>>74597471
i dont think they'll be 11-5 but its hard to improve on 14-2 so I don't think they'll be better.

>>74597136
>teams that didn't make the playoffs last year and got even worse in free agency
>somehow they'll make the playoffs next year

>>74597383
>he was actually incredibly reliable from 2013

Stopped reading there. Patsfags were ripping the fuck out of him all year and even at the start of 2014 when he ran a wrong route in that blowout loss to the Chiefs that led to a redzone pick holy fuck Pats fans absolutely lost their shit in the game thread. It was the exact same thing with Josh McDaniels I swear Pats fans unironically thought he was a shit OC and they shouldn't have brought him back before the 2014 owl

It's funny how quickly people seem to forget around here

>>74597397
>>74597421
It's the Browns. They are loaded with picks and they will give up a lot for Jimmy G. I could see them giving up a 1st + next years 1st or a 1st and two 2nds for sure

>>74597436
No the Dennis Pitta, Ladarius Webb, Ray Rice contracts were the mistake

Seriously those are the 3 that sunk us. Flacco we had to pay to keep but those 3 were viewed as core players by the FO and none of them came close to earning their big contracts

>>74597514
1st and a 2nd maybe. Two firsts no way. Yes they have a shitload of picks but they also have a shitload of holes they need to fill, they're not in a position where just a good QB would solve all their problems.

The patriots are finished

>brady in decline
>no oline
>aged and glass offense
>best players on defense not signed
>overpaid the #2 corner of the fucking bills by 30 million dollars

10-6 at best

>>74597477
IDK why anyone still listens to MKC, all she does is pull shit out of nothing.

captcha bengasi road

>>74597499

Yeah, and he sacks Wilson x3 every time they play.

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>>74597368
>sign 3 players who will be one and done with the eagles
>the eagles will continue to draft poorly and will have to rely on rental players again next year
>eagles fans will be on here again next telling us how great their free agency haul was
never change

>>74597458
I don't think there was a single snap I saw Jimmy G play where the ball wasn't out in 2 seconds to his first or 2nd read

To me, that is worrying, since despite 3 years of being under the wing of arguably the greatest Quarterbacking mind of all time in the same offense for 3 years to learn everything and the dude's whole game was based on a quick release

I think he will get exposed pretty hard on most other teams

>>74597490
Top offensive grades:

RT Marcus Cannon, 84.9

C David Andrews, 83.1

LG Joe Thuney, 77.4

WR Danny Amendola, 76.3

WR Malcolm Mitchell, 73.4

To my knowledge only the right interior and left outside were places of pressure for Brady and PFF confirms it

>>74597431
Wow its nothing
>>74597514
>its the browns
Browns have won FA by a mile. Youre seriously delusional if you think this. Multiple seconds maybe

>>74597514
>I could see them giving up a 1st + next years 1st or a 1st and two 2nds for sure
Then you're retarded.

>>74597543
a quick release is now a bad thing?

fucking /sp/ sometimes

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any updates on Hightower?

>>74597514
>when he ran a wrong route in that blowout loss to the Chiefs that led to a redzone pick
kek I remember that pick. Brady should've never thrown that ball. Edelman did run the wrong route but that was just as much on Brady, plus the game was pretty much over anyway

>>74597514
>Patsfags were ripping the fuck out of him all year

No we weren't you shitface, Edelman was our grace in the 2013 season. Dobson is who you're thinking of.

>chiefs game
Wow one fucking game everyone sucked ass, Edelmans fault.

>McDaniels isn't a meme OC
Kek, if Brady wasn't his QB he'd have been fired ages ago.

Why would give the Dolphins Hayes for a 6th round pick? I thought he was alright

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>>74597375
>mfw they trade Brady to the Browns for two first round picks
>Gopp takes over with a plethora of weapons

>>74597562
He and Bennett will be raidniggers and fuck your charger boipuccy.

>>74597559
It's not, that used to be Brady's entire game, the problem is when the first two aren't there and we have not seen him in that situation almost at all

>>74597559
anon's point wasn't the release, it was the read progression that was troubling. It's how Kaepernick was kept from being exposed in the Harbaugh era, and when he had to make more reads he couldn't do it.

Honestly I don't worry about that as much with Jimmy, but I can see that anon's point.

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>>74597528
Grossi is even worse.

>SOURCES TELL ME GORDON WILL BE CUT
>they keep Gordon (this was two years ago)

>BROWNS ARE FUCKED, THEY FEEL THE IMPACT OF 1-15, WON'T SIGN ANYONE
>they sign the highest rated guard and center on the market, add a 1000 yard WR

>SOURCES TELL ME JOE THOMAS WILL BE TRADED
>nothing happens

I know for a fact he has no "sources" because the team hates him so much I doubt even the fucking stadium janitor would actually talk to him, so he just invents shit that isn't real and by the virtue of him being employed by the ESPN, the national media picks it up.

>>74597524
>>74597544
>>74597549
Hey I want you guys to be right let the Browns try to find a rookie QB in this class and keep the rebuild going as they have so far so it makes our games with them this year easier

>>74597567
Yea na you weren't here in 2013 if you think Pats fans didn't think Brady was carrying dogshit at WR. Sure Edelman had some good games but he was still transitioning and nobody back then thought he would come close to the WR he is now

>if Brady wasn't his QB he'd have been fired ages ago.

Josh McDaniels is the best OC in the league by a fucking mile. It's not even close

>>74597543
>PFF

Dude they lie about every player. Andrews was one of the worst centers in the league last season. If brady couldn't release the ball so fast he'd been sacked 60 times.

>>74597575
>plethora of weapons
Let's see them all make it a full season before saying this

>>74597574
Kroenke was probably sick of his loony ranting about dinosaurs being an illuminati conspiracy

>>74597605
That's not wrong, but if you look at his season grade it is pretty shit

He had a decent game in the Owl

>>74597595
I stopped reading shit by MKC and Grossi because they're shit, Orange & Brown Report has much better content and are far more informed than those chucklefucks.

>>74597597
>Josh McDaniels is the best OC

Need to see him succeed without the GOATs before I buy that.

>>74597559
It's 4chan contrarian culture at its finest.

>>74597597
>Josh McDaniels is the best OC

LMAO this guy. When his gimmick plays don't work hes got nothing to offer.

>>74597630
Actually even the random boomers on BarkinHard forums make more sense than Grossi. That guy is paid to literally shitpost in real life.

>>74597597
>I didn't watch his stints in Denver and St Louis: the post
dogshit without Belichick and Brady's help

>>74597597
>JFFM riding McDaniels dick again because he saw one Edelman pass cuck him in the playoffs

Yeah no try watching every patriots game, Brady bails out his shitty playcalls too much.

How jelly are you that my texans are getting Romo?

Can you say owl?

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>>74597656
>mfw

>>74597645
His offensive coaching in Denver wasn't bad at all but god damn the idiotic trades and draft picks he made actually make me think Belichick sent him there to sabotage that team.

>>74597597
>Yea na you weren't here in 2013 if you think Pats fans didn't think Brady was carrying dogshit at WR.

Brady did carry that offense, Edelman wasn't one of them though and is a solid receiver. Not a true #1 like Brees, Eli or Rodgers can chuck at tho.

>>74597594
ehh but a lot of young quarterbacks have the opposite problem in they hold the ball too long and are indecisive.

I'm sure the pats didn't give him the full range of plays they gave Brady but what they did give him he handled great.

>>74597675
he did give Gase his NFL start though

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>>74597670
>mfw yfw

>>74597675
this, Good "coach", bad GM

Josh was Chip Kelly before Kelly memed himself into the league.

>>74597656
Tony Romo knows a lot about going 8-8 and/or shitting the bed in the playoffs so the Texans is actually a perfect fit

>>74597656
>Tony 2-4 Romo makes any team a contender

Top kek. The guy is a loser. This Romo hype is nothing but casual offseason memes.

>>74597670
About as jealous as Romo is of my never damaged collarbones.

>>74597682
Rodgers had that problem too and he turned out alright, sometimes the thing to do is to expose them and see if they learn

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>>74597693

>romo to the Texans
>Jags "elite defense on paper" is finally going to come together
>titans have elite o-line, best running game in the league
>Luck's o-line might be less shit

Is the AFCS going to be good this season?

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Is Houston ready for more choking?

Why do people think Brady is a top 5 QB if he can't make his receivers look good?

Edelman and Hogan would have 1.4k each if Rodgers was their QB.

>>74596731
Fuck that they better keep him

>>74597728
they have to trade him or cut him because cap

>>74597533
Our last draft was great
This one will be too
Nice try kiddo

>>74597727
Brady is the greatest QB ever

but if Rodgers had Belichick then he would certainly be the best QB ever

>>74597727
I'm retarded: the post

>>74597675
>make me think Belichick sent him there to sabotage that team.

kinda backfired in the end though

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All you disgusting fags hating in Edelman. Does not matter if he drops some passes. When he catches all when Brady goes on God mode. When he caught one of the GOAT catches in OWL history. Go check that last Quarter with the Falcons. He was magic. And even HOF Deion Sanders has called him great publicly and says he gets overlooked by SJW liberal media bc of his white/Aryan status. His words.

You faggots dont know jack. He is a literally a "Noble Man". And Brady loves him.

>>74597727
proof? because the only 1000 yard receiver Rodgers had this season was Jordy Nelson while Brady did the same with Edelman

>>74597740
Rodgers wouldn't be throwing to manlets

Hes an elite passer, not an elite QB.

>>74597740

>Implying you can have one Sith Lord without the other.

Always two, there is.

>>74597574
Bevause the rams have the worst front office in the league

>>74597760
cobb is a manlet

>>74597693
He was actually worse than Chip.

>trading Cutler (still a very good young QB at that point) for Kyle Orton and picks
>trading Brandon Marshall for a 2nd round pick
>signing Laurence Maroney
>drafting Knowshon Moreno in the first round
>drafting Robert Ayers in the first round
>drafting Tim fucking Tebow in the first round

On the positive side he did draft Demariyus Thomas but he played like absolute shit that year.

>>74597719
>perenially 8-8 QB on perenially 8-8 team
>Blake "lol how do i throw ball" Bortlel
>no receivers or pass rushers, and also Mike Mularkey
>garbage defense even before Mathis retired
It might be worse than last year 2bh

>>74597719
>Is the AFCS going to be good this season?

the real question is can the human body survive the amount of dope have to be smoked in order to believe that?

>>74597773
Also, Josh got fired because he got caught cheating.

Official top QB rankings

1. Rodgers
2. Ryan
3. Brees
4. Rothlisberger
5. Rivers
6. Brady
7. Carr
8. Romo ( healthy )
9. Wilson
10. Smith

>>74597810
>rivers above brady

Rivers has been quietly aging like shit, i dont know why people keep rating him

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Spark one for da burrs playoff chances reaching 0.

>>74597773
>>74597809
>>74597693
There a ton of buzz before the draft that the Pats will try picking Tebow in the 3rd or 4th round and try converting him into a TE. So hilariously enough him going in the 1st solidified the Pats picking Gronk in 2nd.

>>74597810

Nice rankings....

I love not seeing overrated dak presscocks listed high.

Cowgirls are looking at 8-8.

Giants will roll the division now.