>watching divegrass

That's a penalty

>>74586099
Dat dive instinct

>>74586099
wait why is he flopping? is that not a ref?

>>74586341
>>74586340

>>74586099
Anyone got that "bunch of Barca players cheering after a goal when a bottle hits and every single one of them dives" webm?

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>>74586471

>>74586622
this is pathetic as fuck. why do soccer players do this?

>>74586644

because refs are dumb and it wins games

when all that matters is winning, and acting makes you win more, you act. to win.

isnt NBA known for flopping too?

>>74586644
Because it earns calls. It really is fucking stupid. I don't know at what level they're taught to do this, but at least here in the states, up through low-division collegiate play (highest I played), we are literally never told to ever do this bullshit. May be just a eurocuck thing.

>>74586622
>getting_in_form_for_that_PSG_game.webm
Thanks mate.

>>74586705
>and it wins games
it was literally at the end of the game they were winning

>>74586719
It's a spanish/south american thing mainly. Taught the mentality of "use any tactic to try and win"

>>74586719
>why wasn't i told to cheat the same way as people playing for hundreds of millions of dollars are

>>74586644
How many penalty kicks is that?

>watching handegg
>game decided by a coin toss

>>74586622
that is funny

>>74586705
>isnt NBA known for flopping too
Yes, but it's mostly people named James.

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>>74586622
they were only protecting themselves.

wtf if you were a player you wouldnt have think: "oh, it's just a bottle, it's no like they can throw on us heavier things"

>>74586768
asif the the eplel isn't full of divers too and even managers trying to pressure refs in press conferences

>>74586826
and chris paul

>>74586769
I find if hard to believe that they just began learning to dive as soon as they became pros.

Actually, with the European academy system farming children for professional play, it makes sense that they learn to do this by the time they're ten.
>>74586768
Yes, the EPL is completely free of diving, goy.

>>74586768
>not mentioning Italians

come on, they are so good at it I'm almost jealous. maybe not so much at diving, but the little nasty tricks at large

>>74586873
>the EPL is completely free of diving
No one is this dumb.

I know people like to get triggered by women on here, but if you watch women's footy they hardly ever dive, in fact I never saw it happen once when I watched the world cup.

>>74586873
>>74586869
>Yes, the EPL is completely free of diving, goy.
Don't know. I don't pay attention to any league called that

>>74586938
Because women's football is slow at hell and the defenses are less agressives, it's more difficult to fool the referee with dives.

>>74586845

Unfortunately this.

Flares/coins/old cellphones are usually thrown into the pitch, so they have to play it safe.

Even if it's "just" a water bottle.

diving is shit

exaggerating a real foul so the ref sees it and can't ignore it is fine

>>74586938
>if you watch women's footy they hardly ever dive
they don't have to, they already fall to the ground unintentionally

>>74587038
>People dive cause the play is aggressive

Someone tell the Italians.

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>>74586826

it's mostly Barcelona who do it though

>>74587066
>get an half-empty plastic bottle of water thrown at you
>dive like a pussy whipped bitch *for protection*
Good thing it wasn't a live flare or a firework about to go off with them protecting themselves by flopping around like dying fishes, innit.

>>74587245
And Messi doesn't even do it.

>>74586938
How would you know? No one ever watches women's footy

>>74586622
>>74586340

>>74587069
t. messi

>>74587351
>Reading comprehension

>>74587360
>messi
of all the players you picked the worst example, literally the only one that keeps going while being fouled

>>74586644

Because soccer is a sport for little girls. Also checked.

>>74586826

And Wade.

>>74586622
>mascherano
>not even close to that bottle
>still is first one to fake being hurt

God i hate that man.

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>>74587511

Lol

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>>74586768
is this "owen" guy a south american?

>>74587586
>This was almost 20 years ago

;_;

>>74587621
a guy has scored in the PL that was born on that day

>>74586845
Yeah, when someone throws a bottle at you, I don't think falling down and dramatically rolling around in the same area is beneficial for one's protection. I would be more concerned with getting the fuck away from that area.

>>74587744
How the hell could you tell that its bottle? Its fast, you dont know what it is. Also, its not a war where you have to run away from shoots. Fuck off, m8.

>>74586622
Kek all the manlet dive while based sergi and Bartra just stand there

>>74587536
jesus christ how do people watch this shit

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Is there a less likable kind of """person""" on Earth than the American soccer fan?

>>74587536
>Messi's "Nigga please" reaction

the best part

>>74588149
The obese one with a superiority complex over their sport that borrows elements from rugby

>>74588172
> messi

>>74586752
but they want to win more

>>74586622
ahahaaha fug

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>>74586768
>It's a spanish/south american thing mainly

why is diving so encouraged? Do poor people have a higher tolerance for bullshit?

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>>74587536
God i wish someone took the occasion to curbstomp that bald headed lying piece of fuck

>>74588561
Diving wins games/. Even if Suarez got a retroactive red card for his dive he'd be 100% justified because they won the game.

It's very tough because I'm against replays but in situations like that it would be easy to analyze each dive with a replay. If there's a foul, give the pen. If it's acting, yellow card.

>>74588475
you're now aware you're confirming it by including a brazilian spanish player in it

I get that refs can be bamboozled by it during the heat of a game, but there's no excuse that league officials can't watch videos afterwards and fine the shit out of players taking obvious dives.

>>74588696
>Replay

Why hasn't this been implemented yet?

>>74588696
Sounds like a broken sport if faking an injury wins games and is a practiced strategy

>>74588697
>mainly

Learn2read m8.

>>74588719
takes too long, they are testing it in kids leagues and very low divisions and currently there's like a minute pause for a single challenge. Plus many situations are not binary and there are logistical problems, i.e. what do you do if a team wants to challenge but the other team goes on the counter and scores with no break in play

>>74588720
It it's a broken sport. The reason why diving exists is because the foul/punishment rules are uneven as fuck.

>>74586768
Wasn't klinsmann the one who started the entire thing?

>>74586644
Because Uefalona fans encourage it

>tfw no more real football for six months

At least Trump got elected, so there's something else to watch.

>>74588788
Just do what happens in tennis. Every team has like 3 challenges to check the tapes to determine if something is a penalty or not.

>>74588866
that doesn't solve the problems I described. In tennis, the ball is either in or out and no player can just keep playing and score while the other guy wants to challenge

>>74588720
Same sport with widespread doping and money laundering bud

>>74588915
Your issue is that people will keep playing on, but usually after someone gets fouled or dives inside the box, there's a temporary stop in play cause everyone has their hands up. The coach/captain of either team can call for a challenge to see if there was a foul or not. IF not, game is continued, if it was a foul then it's a penalty.

>>74588788
Third ref sits in a van and watches the replay. If he find something awry and it is a foul towards the team on the counter attack, then whatever goal they score is irrelevant

>>74586705
Not at the rate soccer players dive of course

>>74588951
>>74588947
that introduces new problems. For one thing, teams will happily burn a challenge to stop a dangerous counter. Even if it's only 3 times a game, plenty of games have been won by the weaker team breaking well and scoring once.

Second, teams might just stop counterattacking altogether if the other team has a challenge available because they'd anticipate it and wouldn't want to waste their breath running 100m to the other side. That kills a huge part of the tactics

>>74588951
What if the 3rd ref's opinion is different to the main ref's?

>>74586644
Lack of fluoridation in their water leads to increased estrogen levels

>>74586705
NBA has flopping and guys will do it in the NFL too

It's just so pivotal in soccer and can often win games. In the NBA it gets you 2 normally insignificant free throws.

>>74588720
>faking an injury
fucking sharts with their "faking an injury" meme. Pretending you're injured doesn't do shit, pretending that someone tripped you is a whole other thing.

>>74589048
>to stop a dangerous counter.
This makes no sense. People get fouled in midfield all the time and the ref either waves play-on or pulls it back. The challenges would only count for fouls happening inside the box. You're complaining about nothing substantial in regards to a solution that would fix a bigger problem than "muh counter-attacks from all the way on the other side of the field"

>>74589147
Both are the act of a faggot sissy bitch

>>74589057
The way the Dutch do it is that the main ref asks for the video ref's input so the main ref will go with what the video ref says

How about if you are writhing in pain on the ground as if you just tore your ACL you are taken out of the game and treated as such

>>74589176
>"muh counter-attacks from all the way on the other side of the field
that happens several times in every game though

>>74586341
It's Jordi Alba, the biggest pussy in a sport famous for being pussies

>>74589245
there's already a rule for that. If a player is on the ground the ref either tells them to get up or tells the medics to come on. If the medics have to treat the player, he has to leave the field of play in whatever condition he's in

>>74589257
But I'm clearly talking about fouls that happen inside the penalty area.

>>74589072
Yes, people flop, but not at the consistency and volume of divegrass

Also, diving is highly frowned upon and taboo in the NFL. You will get roasted in the NFL if you dive, somewhat too with the NBA, but not as much

Also they do fine the habitual floppers, unlike divegrass

>>74586873
>I find if hard to believe that they just began learning to dive as soon as they became pros.
I saw like 3 dives in playing football consistently from age 8-17 in youth leagues.

>>74589320
I know, counters from inside the penalty area happen on a regular basis in every game, sometimes with as few as 2-3 passes until a goal is scored on the other side and it just takes a few seconds.
This isn't like a punt return TD or something

>>74589342
How can't you get that what you're complaining about makes no sense?

Fouls happen all over the pitch, it's the ref's job to determine if it was a dive or not or to play advantage. Fouls that happen inside the box are usually given more weight, and if a player calls for a challenge, play can be temporarily stopped.

I'm getting a headache having to explain a simple concept to you.

>>74589048
That's no problem. Let's say the coach can only take challenges when the game is stopped. And if there was a mistake that led to the counter attack that lead to a goal, then the game will be reset to the point of the mistake. It is like that in tennis, too.

>>74586869
yeah it is full of divers
and they're all spanish/south american

the english players do not dive like that because we don't respect shitbags here

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>>74586644
because they have no shame squirming around like rats

>>74589431
so why would the other team even attempt to counter if they know there will be a challenge? It seems like a big slowdown to me

>>74589426
>play can be temporarily stopped
that's my point. Stopping the play is a big advantage for whoever calls it.

>>74589431
>play continues
>ball doesn't go out of play for 5 minutes
>check
>go back to penalty
Do they get those 5 minutes back on the clock?

>>74589481
>Stopping the play is a big advantage for whoever calls it.
No it doesn't because it's going to be the team that's attacking that is calling for the challenge.

Language barrier much?

>>74589466
>the english players do not dive like that
isn't Kane the joint most booked diver in PL history or something? Maybe it was just for one season. And I remember Ashley Young was unable to stay on his feet for over 10 seconds at a time. Rooney was also a filthy diver for a very long time

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Why are people still struggling with this?

There is no integrity in professional sports. There's too much money/fame at stake.

Sooner you realize that, the sooner you kids move on with your lives.

>>74589509
>No it doesn't because it's going to be the team that's attacking that is calling for the challenge.

>be attacking
>your player is challenged fairly in the box and loses the ball to the opposition
>they have 4 guys vs your 2
>call challenge to stop it

there really is some sort of a barrier

>>74589513
not remotely to the same degree as spanish and italians lets be real here

>>74589546
it will only increase the more pacey negritos you train. Their only skill is to gofast and to get slightly knocked and fall over

>>74589539

>Play in the box
>Player gets legitimately fouled
>Ref says it's not a pen
>Call for a challenge
>Challenge shows it was a foul
>Game-changing penalty given

>Play in the box
>Player gets fairly dispossessed
>Challenge gets called
>Play reviewed
>No foul
>Game continues, diver gets carded.

You're saying people might abuse this feature but that's literally a much better bargain than having to concede an unfair penalty.

>>74589481
>so why would the other team even attempt to counter if they know there will be a challenge?

Do you even know the challenge system in tennis? You can't just use the challenge and you will win. If the challenge is used for no reason the action after the action will stay legitimated. There is no disadvantages for the challenge system if there is a limited amount of calls.

>>74589513
rooney is a serial diver, but the most pathetic offenders i remember were gerrard and joe cole, an absolute embarrasment

>>74589685
but if the challenge is successful, the defending team just ran their lungs off and scored for nothing.

>>74589629
In situation B, the defending team could have cleared the ball upfield and have a chance on goal. Using the challenge allows the opposition to get back in position to stop them from doing that

>>74589629
you have to compare how often teams get unfair penalties (or unfair non-pen calls) vs how often a team breaks fro the box and scores. Both situations have a goal hanging on them. I feel like the latter happens more often so it shouldn't be sacrificed, even 3 times a game

>>74589736
>the defending team could have cleared the ball upfield and have a chance on goal
This is a very RARE occurence.

Teams getting screwed over by phantom penalties is more common.

>>74589793
I have no confidence in all of that assessment. I'm not saying it's necessarily wrong but I'd need to see figures

>>74586644
because the referee video isn't a thing yet

>>74589734
THat is the good thing about the challenge system. If you know that you did a foul or felt a foul you will tell the coach to make the challenge. If you know you will be charged against the challenge you will know that your action will be reset. So fairplay will grow stronger.

>>74589822

The only time I can think a challenge working against the right team is when Torres scored against Barcelona 5 years ago, but that was off an Ashley Cole handball in the box. With the challenge, Barcelona get a penalty.

If the challenge system existed in 2009, Chelsea would have beaten Barcelona and gone to the final, and Barca wouldn't have finished the match with 10 men.

>>74589793
It may not have been from a challenge in the box but it literally happened tonight and resulted in a goal

>>74589845
but a lot of the time penalty box challenges are 50/50. I think defenders will want to be on the safe side and will expect a challenge most times, which will make them unwilling to start a counter and maybe knock it about some until the (whatever challenge timer there is) runs out, slowing the game down

and the timer I mentioned is another problem

>>74589769
>I feel like the latter happens more often so it shouldn't be sacrificed, even 3 times a game

Oh cmon, this isn't true.

Normally the player is rolling around writhing in "pain" as the ball is hoofed out of play or rolls out of bounds. Meanwhile, the referee gets surrounded by players from both teams screaming at him.

>>74586644
>1. That's barca, literally "diving the team". Which is a big reason people hate them, not their success as some people claim, Bayern for instance is sucsesfull and loved by a lot of none fans
>2. That's Suarez , the most digraceful cheater the sport have ever seen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl_oE82ODrA

>>74589900
>Meanwhile, the referee gets surrounded by players from both teams screaming at him.

Exactly. This is happens like 99% of the time someone falls down in the penalty box. It's a non-issue worrying about a counter-attack goal. If you really think it's a penalty, then you call for the challenge video replay and you get rid of human error and crying about refball.

>>74589859
if the challenge system existed in 2013, Torres doesn't score that goal vs Barcelona because they'll call a challenge for handball in the Chelsea box and maybe Barca go through

>>74589927
>Bayern for instance is sucsesfull and loved by a lot of none fans

>Buyern
>Loved

What kinda world do you live in goofball?

>>74589941
sorry I didn't really read your post well

There's no way to actively review non-calls, so just give up on that. But for fouls that do get called, you simply have a ref in a van reviewing it immediately in slo-mo. If he thinks it was a dive, he pages the head ref who will stop play and award a card ASAP to the diver. And for penalties, you wait until this review is finished before having the pen taken.

What would be wrong with this? It wouldn't make foul calls perfect but I think it would get rid of diving.

>>74589793
It really isnt a rare occurence, teams like real madrid or Inter under Mourinho would do it multiple times per game.

>>74589941
>handball

Handball calls cannot be challenged. Fixed.

99% of these discussions that always pop up are about diving in the box.

>>74589981
that seems a bit more realistic

mind you, the most quoted refball game is Barca vs Chelsea in 2009 and that was 4-5 non-calls

>>74590000
ok they call a challenge for a foul even if there's basically no contact from anyone, just to stop play

>>74590028
1 challenge. That's it.

You blow it on something like that, you're wasting it. On top of that, if you're wrong and the challenge fails, the other team is awarded a time out, orange slices and an extra attacker for 5 minutes..

Ok, not really. But it's a call you have to get right. You just have to. There is technology there to ensure that. Figuring out a way to use it without harming the game shouldn't be that difficult. Diving is doing much more harm than 1 imposed stoppage could ever do.

>>74589687
>Gerrard
>Diving

aayyyyyyyyyyy

>>74590028
There isn't unlimited challenges here. Maybe 1 or 2. That's all you get.

>>74590156
https://youtu.be/G4rS3IhbVM8?t=273

>>74586705
>isnt NBA known for flopping too?
It only got known for flopping after the influence of European players into the sport.

>>74587985

>Bartra

>>74587536

Based Tsuuu

>>74586622
SCUM RISES TO THE TOP

>>74587586

That was hip to hip contact, which is very upending, if you played the game, you know what I mean.

>>74588475

It is denounced, players are ridiculed in the media for it.

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>this is a normal thing in povertyball

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>>74591985
>tfw i posted a picture trying to bait brown skins instead of the gif
how embarrassing

>>74591985

I've heard coaches say shit to weaker people like, " if they hit you or get aggressive, just lay down and protect yourself."

This is told to kids, you know, kids that are not fighters, more aggressive people would not be told to do this.

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>>74592061
What does that have to do with someone lightly touching your ear and then acting as if you just got shot in the head to in a sad attempt to get a penalty called?

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>>>>>

>>74592108
They have always pretended to be injured. It is second nature to them.

>>74592108

South Americans have made it an art form. I mean, Chile's goalkeeper pulled a fucking razor blade out of his glove and cut himself mid game to get someone sent off. That's WWF level of tomfoolery.

Still the sport of kings.

>le 11 good english lads with good legs and HART do not dive ever


Keep memeing to yourself

Only people who have never kicked a ball in their lives dislike diving

Notice how Americans are always the ones bringing that up

>>74592189
I would defend his actions there to some degree, he was fouled, but the ref would not give a penalty for him being honest and staying upright.

>>74592305
Please give me an argument as to why faking getting hurt/tripped should be incorporated into a sport? Why should cheating the system be a strategy in a non-flawed sport? Or are you just blindly defending everything because you are a fag pussy bitch?

>>74592305

I personally love it. Unfortunately, I really wasn't aware of it during my playing days. Otherwise, I'd have been rolling around like a madman trying to get opponents sent off.

Not a chicano, btw.

>>74592343
Diving is against the rules, just like being offside, wasting time or commiting a foul

If you only focus on diving you know nothing about this sport

>>74592343

You think cheating doesn't occur in all sports? Nigga, you stupid?

>>74592343

You don't get rewarded for being honest, many players are fouled, but the ref does not see it, thus they simulate to draw the ref's attention.

But this is no excuse, as players manipulate with experience, and just dive all the time.

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>>74592343
>expecting poor brown people to have dignity

>>74592369
You played pro level? In amateur games you can't dive lol

i dont know why americans always ask why players do this.

it's pretty obvious why they do it.

you can't try and compare it to any situation in american sports because the scoring is so much larger in them.

in football the margins are tiny, and players are going to do anything that can give them the advantage of a penalty/free-kick or player getting booked.

you don't get diving in shorthand forms of football like futsal or five-a-side where the scoring is much more frequent, because they're isn't anything to gain from diving in the box. if you have the ball near the goal and lose it, so what? you're going to have another similar chance in about 3 seconds anyway. this isn't the case in football obviously.

it can also pretty fucking hard to spot at real-time with the human eye. and before you say "hur-dur muh video ref" remember that are thousands upon thousands of full-time professional football teams in hundreds of leagues in the world, and the vast majority of them don't have the funds for such technology.

>>74586752
>>74586340

>>74592507
This

Americans should read this post so they stop making the very same thread every single days

>>74592507
>i dont know why americans always ask why players do this.
>it's pretty obvious why they do it.
>you can't try and compare it to any situation in american sports because the scoring is so much larger in them.


Diving is shit, but this is literally why it is done.

This is why the sport is more than a sport, it is realistic, and in life, shit happens.

>>74592409

No, collegiate level (lower tier desu), but still would have been fun to dive. I did play a club from Ecuador at club level when I was like 17. Those fuckers dove nonstop. They were shit though.

>>74592601
>>74592507
Alright so I want to get into divegrass but how do I get over the fact that every game is won or lost by cheating faggots? It would be like the feeling I get when a game of """"""american""""""" football is lost or won by a questionable flag

>>74592676
>Alright so I want to get into divegrass but how do I get over the fact that every game is won or lost by cheating faggots?

except it isn't though. not even close to being true.

>>74592507
You're explaining why it happens. Now explain why people should watch this farce.

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>>74592704
>89 minutes of nobody scoring
>dive
>get penalty shot
>make it
>win

>>74586099
Is it just me or does it look like Torres is laughing?

>>74592758
Almost never happens

In American football you have finals based on a literal coin toss

>>74592781
winning the toss doesn't guarantee a victory in overtime, you still have to beat the defense.

>>74592676
you won't. you need to embrace it.
keep in mind, when your team loses, even if fairly, you can always claim refball. that's a good thing.

>>74592885
Getting a penalty doesn't guarantee a victory, you still have to score it

>>74592319
If its not the kind of thing that brings you down or seriously impedes your movement it wasnt a foul

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>>74592920
But you are in a situation to win PURELY by faking a penalty and cheating the system, not by playing your heart out and making a 25 point comeback

>>74592676
Just the CL, my dude.

>>74592973
Yes, but doesn't happen that often

Refs know players will dive more in the end of the game because a goal there will be more important, they are more focused in realising when it's a dive

>>74592758
yeah thats just nonsense though.

there were 81 penalties given last season in the English Premier League from 380 games. you'd be lucky if 10 of them were from diving.

>>74593181
only 81? That's actually pretty good, the average amount of penalties in the NFL is 12 per game and there are 256 games per season.

>>74587536

>When he gets touched on the head and rolls in agony

Jesus fuck, how can people take this """""sport""""" seriously?

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>>74591186
Although I stopped watching football many years ago, this kinda thing still makes me feel embarassed I come from a mainly football culture.

Football needed a major reform to make it worth while. If sports had IQ based on mechanics and rules, football would be one of those 80 something "dull normals"

Truly a peasant sport

>>74593259
actually 91. read the stat for this season by accident

http://www.myfootballfacts.com/Premier_League_Penalty_Statistics.html

>>74592507
So how does this justify watching divegrass? I get why they dive but it is still pathetic.

>>74592973
Plus simulation is against the rules. There's nothing illegal about a coin toss.

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>>74592305
>he actually defends this.
I played soccer as a kid, and no one acted like that. We acted more like men than your "men". But maybe because our biggest sport isn't a faggot pussy sport. Basketbore is just as pathetic.

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>people will defend this

>>74587536
Give this man an Oscar.

>>74586099
Seriously tho. I love football, my favorite sport of all time. But watching people dive makes me so fucking sick what an embarrassment to the sport. No wonder people hate this sport. Fucking grass fairies

>>74592758
you're acting as if that happens every single game fucktard

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>>74594408

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>>74594576

>>74594564
One time is too many if you don't like the taste of semen

I hate seeing diving as well, but answer me this one question: Why would a player not do something that increases his team's chances of winning?

>>74594576
well yeah he's a fag for acting like that, but isn't that still a foul though?

>>74591943
kek
top kek
top stuff laddie

>>74594682
Because the player is capable of feeling shame.

Despite Herrera hitting the other guy's heel accidentally, the foul probably shouldn't have been given because the guy was putting himself at a greater risk of the possibility of getting kicked by Herrera than putting Herrera at a risk.

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>>74586622
Kek

>>74594960

>capable of feeling shame
>UEFAlona actors

This is why rugby is the best sport. Has the pace of soccer but the toughness of football


If you dive in rugby you will get ridiculed like the little bitch that you are

>>74592676
>every game is won or lost by cheating faggots

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>>74587450
>USA 94 was most attended World Cup
>mfw USA has highest percentage of little pussies in the world

>>74592676
>every
Maybe 5%

>>74592154

It's even worse if you know the story

He actually got red carded for this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voSDYvYRleg

and then fifa saw the replay after the match and didn't suspend him

>>74594960
>not doing everything he can to win

lol okay fag

>>74594960
Wouldn't it be more shameful to know that you didn't do EVERYTHING in your power to help your team win, letting your fans and coaches down?

in a month when Barcelona win the champions league no one is going to give a fuck how they beat PSG, they will give a fuck that the comeback HAPPENED

no one remembers Klinsmann diving in 1990 except autist fans like me, so who gives a fuck how it's done as long as it gets someone the trophy? the trophy is what matters. Do you think in 10 years anyone is going to remember Cristiano not playing the Euro final? fuck no, because he has the pictures with the trophy and a movie to show for it.
Does anyone remember Mexico refballing the fuck out of the Gold Cup past nearly every team? no. Does anyone even remember Chile using a player with a DUI who was sent to a detained cell days before (Vidal) and fingered someones asshole for a red card to win Copa America? fuck no.

cheating is forgotten, wins stay forever.

I think the problem is with referees, sometimes it's pretty obvious to know a player is faking an injury (nerman); the obvious solution, yellow cards always; or if it was indeed a foul and the player is still rolling in the floor (to make it look like a red card), force the manager to make a substitution, if they already made all 3, he has to leave his team with 10 men.

>>74588121
youre right
god we are so embarrased..
lets wathc some baseball or nfl instead, miles better and entertained

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>tfw to inteligent to watch divegrass

>>74594682
Why does he have to cover his face and roll around like a 3 year old instead of just falling down? It's embarrassing. Your sport is a joke.

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>>74586622
>I actually watch this sport
>even this isn't going to stop me

>>74587825
>How the hell could you tell that its bottle?

That's irrelevant and you're missing the point. When people are throwing shit at me, I move out of the way because I don't want to get hit with more shit. Which is hardly a far-fetched train of thought when confronted with an angry football crowd that goes full-on mob mentality after losing in a last-minute penalty. Extreme analogies isn't going to change that.

They got shit thrown at them and they stayed and rolled on the floor. Which kills your "they're only protecting themselves" argument.

>>74587825
If you've ever been outside in the last 20 years, you'd know that that is CLEARLY an empty water bottle.
Your sport is pathetic.

>>74587536
>tfw people are so busy insulting Masche that they don't realize what Cristiano did is red card worthy

>>74600805
>runs in to each other
>red card
I don't get your retarded sport.

>>74594408
That actually hurts like hell, although he is overracting obviously.

Freekick should have been given to the other team though.

>>74600805
same thing happened with the Abate/Ronaldo dive

>>74600873
He means tssuman's lifted leg when baldiemanlet runs by. Although I doubt that's more than a yellow card at best, even in Spain.

>>74594408
He kicked a stud at full force, that shit hurts... another fat mong who's never been outside

>>74592305
literally this

>>74592305
I played way more soccer than any other sport in my life, and my cousins are still big soccer players/fans.

Flopping is fucking insulting.

>>74592507
It's not why do players do it, it's why do you all turn a blind eye to the degradation of your game. How is watching a goal drive get intentionally dropped in the name of pretending to get touched something you want? How is spending minutes of the game watching people fling themselves 6 feet because someone breathed on them exciting play to you?

It's exchanging watching a good game of soccer for watching a high school play sword-fight, why do you like that?

>you can't try and compare it to any situation in american sports because the scoring is so much larger in them.
You'd be surprised, about 1/3 or more of James Harden's points comes from "earning" fouls.

But hey as long as it wins West Ham a game en route to a 9th place finish.

Diving and selling the foul are two different things.

A true dive or schwalbe is when a player pretends to be hurt when there was no contact at all, either because he expected the foul and it didn't come or just because he's a malicious as fuck cunt.

Selling the foul is when a player gets fouled, but he knows he won't get the call unless he rolls around on the ground because the ref is blind as fuck.

In the USA, is it the norm to be gay?

Do straight people get victimised?

>>74601368
>>74601044
>kick someones foot
>cant decide wether his leg or arm hurts
>clear delay
yeah sure, lmao

>>74588121
I used to love football, and specifically Barcelona. Still have a real 2005 squad jersey with all the squad signature including Messi that I got from Messi's first game as a starter in Barcelonas A-team 11.

I had to stop watching the game though. It's disgusting this diving shit, and I can't fucking feel proud of happy over a win that's won by cheating. Even if the PSG game had happened during my height as a Barcelona fan I doubt I could accept it. It's beyond scummy.

>>74602144
Only in the WNBA

>>74602144
>gay
nah it's just the hip thing to be.

Just like calling people you don't agree with Nazis or fascists

>>74601985
this
players like neymar who are hated by americans for "overacting" fouls need to "win" yellow cards so they protect themselves, otherwise they would never finish a game