UFC 209 Tomorrow
Khabib too fat to show up
lizard
Bisping suffering from depression
>wmma
when will this meme die
What does Dana White do exactly?
>>74481487
When you get a girlfriend so never.
>bisping's a """bad""" champion
he's one of the best underdog success stories in ufc history
perennial gatekeeper on the other side of his prime, and on short notice he definitively stops a guy who used him as a stepping stone
Khabib is a piece of shit.
Woodley vs Thompson
Vannata vs Teymur
Evans vs Kelly
Hunt vs Overeem
Optional Bonus Fight:
Calvillo vs Cooper
>>74481564
Bisping sucks. He's a slightly better Ross Pearson.
>>74481487
That's a comfy webm
>>74481580
my 1000 other shitposts aside i'm pretty bummed
i wanted tony to win but knew it wouldnt be easy. wanted to see the khabib meme exposed legitimately, and if he won fair play to him
>>74481487
>>74481597
>friends hanging out
>dana in background shitposting on twitter
>>74481588
>Ross pearson as the LW champ
What a timeline that would be
>>74481433
;)
Khabib was clearly having a bad weight cut, can't believe you memers thought he could out-cardio Tony for 5 rounds :)
Khabib plz....plz Khabib...
Whats with contemporary mma and fight cancellations? Its happening way too often these days.
He'll save 209
>>74481642
He's fighting Jake Ellenberger in April.
>>74481636
USADA and IV bans are fucking up the weight cuts.
>ufc didnt care about finding a replacement to fuck tyron's payday
such racism
>>74481583
Why didn't you add my picks goof?
>>74481690
i did, check again my buddy
>>74481698
I see what you did you cheeky bloke.
This is #1 Bullshit
new woodbedded fellas:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izy-M4TtFrM
:^)
who does foreign man refer to here
>>74481800
upvoted and saved
I know deep down that Schaub has a plan for Khabib, and the rest of us.
You just have to have faith in Big Brown.
if khabum is still your boy you need to get the fuck out of /heem/
What an awful imitation. Apply yourself.
UFC??? If I wanted pay $20 to watch two dudes beat the shit out of each other for glory I'd run down to the Kwik-E-Mart and toss a couple bills in front of the local homeless.
Conor was right about Khabib, as well as Aldo. Pull out merchants who would just waste his time if he agreed to fight them.
>>74481855
>>74481841
>Imitating the guy from Coral Springs
I wonder where it all went wrong for him
>>74481840
He's the only unbeaten championship contender boy I have left.
I cant forsake him now.
You know I post is bad if ya gotta say it twice.
>>74481865
>making an opponent deal with your sweaty chest hair
should be illegal t.b.h.
This guy no pay money. Team money. 50 dollar.
Belt change him.
>>74481865
>40 posts
>17 posters
The absolute state of this thread
>>74481890
bisping is a more legit champ than d.c.
i dont care what fucking contenders you beat, you gotta beat the champ to be the champ
good luck with that dead thread. your timing sucks
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Bisping doesn't get the respect he deserves desu
>>74481932
What has he done to deserve respect? Beat up a bunch of grandpas?
I don't get the respect I deserve desu
>>74481893
If I take off those sunglasses, will you die?
>>74481901
At least DC fought the #1 contenders.
>>74481943
knocked the hairline off luke rockhold
wasnt a fluke and exploited a very specific hole in luke's boxing
>>74481932
>Bisping is gonna beat Silva, Rockhold, Henderson and GSP IN THAT ORDER
>still won't get it
>>74481943
Piss your low income bitch ass off. So tired of these /r/mma dorks hitting on a guy getting MONEY, does that make you jealous
>>74481800
this. his only real win was on an unsuspecting Rockhold
>>74481932
Anderson and Hendo beat him
>>74481951
Biggest fluke since GSP/Serra.
What else has he done?
>>74481874
>muh undefeated
this isnt boxing
>>74481968
Bisping had 3 rounds against Silva and 4 rounds against Hendo
>>74481969
He got KO'd by Anderson and then beat him. That's pretty impressive.
>>74481968
Bisping whipped Anderson's ass for 20 minutes. Anderson had a couple kicks and a fluke knee
>>74481985
Anderson is old. Henderson is old.
Both guys beat him to a pulp.
He's ducking contenders.
>>74481985
stole my post
like it or not under the old rules he won that and the hendo fight, after taking damage most fighters would wilt from
>>74481953
only one of those is even remotely in his prime
>>74482002
Anderson landed a fluke knee, he got his ass beat like I would beat your ass if I ever saw you, you lo incomer LOSER
>>74482002
>He's ducking contenders.
He's being smart.
He can either go get murdered by Romero and then retire fucked up and broke or he can go make a bank fighting GSP and then retire.
Even if he loses he won't get fucked up by GSP.
Dunno about you but I'd rather get paid a ton of money to manhug with GSP then get paid less money to have my skull cracked by a roided out nig.
>>74482004
He shouldn't be taking that kind of damage from old guys. I bet he fought Tim Boetsch he'd squeeze out a 48-47.
UFC 199 which everyone who isn't biased agrees was a fluke is the easiest fight he's had in his entire career. Every other fight he's either getting blown out or struggling to win.
>>74482026
Bisping would knock out Romero
He'd also knock out the currently usada'd bag of shit in Jacaroid
>>74482022
Rockhold was certainly in his prime
>>74482036
>who isn't biased
Translation: I'm a low income loser and hang around with other bitter low income losers SPERGS
>>74482050
read what i wrote again you potato eating cunt
>>74482074
No one cares, low-income
When GSP wins the belt, he will use his leverage to demand a rematch with Hendricks since Hendricks is now at MW.
The Bigg Rigg will win the rematch and become MW champ.
>>74482050
He fought a guy who was too cocky and quite frankly he got lucky.
He was begging to fight CM Punk in 2014 cause he was stuck as eternal gatekeeper until the Anderson fight fell on his lap.
>>74482074
He wasn't "remotely" in his prime. He was in his fucking prime.
>>74482026
according to ariel (say what you want) wme came to bisping with the hendo and gsp fights, he didnt go look for them
he'd be a fool to turn either down
and he had to want redemption for the first hendo loss. hendo used that shit as his fucking logo ffs
>>74481995
>Bisping whipped Anderson's ass for 20 minutes
>>74482099
>he had to want redemption for the first hendo loss
So why didn't he ask for this fight prior to fighting Thales Leites or CB Dolloway?
>>74481961
we like fighting not some shit heads personal finances, go hang yourself
>>74482092
>the other three arent even remotely in there prime.
>rockhold was in his prime
>>74482101
i could hit anderson with a sledgehammer and he wouldnt show damage
>>74482101
Convenient how you read only the first part and not the second part which completely BTFO of you
>>74482117
really made me think
>>74482108
again, he didnt ask for it
the ufc said do you want this fight, and he'd be dumb not to say yes
what does he have some fucking obligation to seek out romero, a """known""" roider
>>74482115
>k-k-k-kill yourself!!!!
Calm down, low income sperg.
>>74482115
im not following this "low income" meme in this thread. it has fuck all to do with anything. it actually seems like something a poor person would say
>>74482125
>Anderson had a couple kicks and a fluke knee
>This is what revenge looks like
I honestly would be so happy for him getting the GSP fight if he didn't look like absolute trash against Hendo.
That was the most embarrassing title fight I've ever seen. It looked like Hendo was the champion and he was the challenger. And then he didn't even get penalized for the 3 nut shots he landed. All he did was just leg kick and jab, most of his other strikes kept missing, then in round 5 he got taken down.
>>74482146
Yep. Thanks for proving me right!!!!
bisping will win by 5 rounds of rulefuckery
screencap this
>>74482156
>literally knocked him unconcious
but i guess a few extra point strikes are better
>>74482156
>>74482171
Anderson has too much hespect, all he needed to do was follow through.
Bisping's brain is getting so mushed up he's entering Diaz bro territory. Soon he'll be completely immune to KO's and then there's no stopping him.
>>74482171
>literally unconscious
In the same way that you are LITERALLY not retarded i suppose, dumbass.
>point strikes
You LITERALLY did not watch the fight
>>74482196
he literally got dropped on one left hook, did you see his face after the fight you stupid faggot
>>74482184
>land a fluke knee and one kick in the 5th round
>robbed!!!
They shouldn't reschedule this fight. Khabib has not earned it and is not reliable. Tony is the number one contender now. They should make Diaz vs Tony and then the winner fights the champ. If Diaz wins against El Cucoy they can make McGregor vs Diaz III a title fight.
Thoughts?
>>74482204
So in other words it wasn't point fighting you retarded fuck
>m-muh face
Fluke :) The fact Anderson couldn't put away Bising's corpse in the 4th round should make him deserve to lose
>>74482205
>Fluke knee
Don't think you know what that means. That knee takes a lot of practice and skill to land.
All Bisping is, is an accidental champ.
>>74482205
>land 20/200 sparring level punches
>get decision
Conor McGregor saved UFC 196 by agreeing to fight someone 60kgs and 4 weight classes above him on 55 minutes notice.
Tony Ferguson decided to not get paid and throw his whole camp down the drain because he was afraid of looking bad against Michael Johnson.
And these guys have the cheek to call McGregor a fake champion?
Don't know why they're so quick to strip Conor of his titles. Cain didn't defend his belt for like a year and 9 months and wasn't stripped.
>>74482225
Yes. I'm sure it's very hard to do in training on a stationary punching bag like Bisping was when he was talking to Herb Dean split seconds before it happened
>>74482224
How are you so fucking stupid? it was point fighting minus one punch whereas Silva was busting open his face every round.
Heavyweight Diaz is the Sea Level Motivated Look in the Eye Non Title Fight 70% Horsemeat Eating pre-USADA of being Michael Jordanesque in it's ability to be virtually identical to the real Nate Diaz. That's the plain truth. He's so big his shadow weighs in at Middleweight and his footfalls set off car alarms in the rich neighborhoods 2 miles away.
Figure he's 310 lbs out of camp, when he's really let himself go with the veggie burgers and esparragos meat. If he's doing a 10 day camp there's no time to train down to fight Conor who's a natural flyweight bravely facing a size differential that makes Fedor and Hong Man Choi look like identical twins.
Nate couldn't have had more than 140 lbs on Conor, but it's possible McGregor borrowed Mayhem Miller's 26 lbs shorts so it might have been as high as 166. Tree times his size was such an exaggeration, it was much closer to 2x. I hope that helps.
>>74482205
it's no fluke that Bisping is a retard
>>74482238
>I'm sure it's very hard to do in training on a stationary punching bag
Yes it is
>>74482240
>busting open his face every round
You literally didn't watch the fight you stupid faggot. He didn't do shit until the very end of the third round with that fluke knee
>>74482256
i literally did you dumb piece of shit
>>74482216
>another Diaz vs Goober
I'd rather watch Cucuy vs Goober or GSP vs Goober.
>>74482233
Because Aldo threatened to commit suicide on cam and blame UFC for it.
>>74482253
Maybe for an unathletic overweight fuck like you maybe
>muh point fighting lol
I always forget Silva autists were the McTapper fanboys of yesteryear
>>74482266
no you didnt lol
>>74481802
Conor shows up for everything
>>74482238
>protect yourself at all times
>>74482232
>Fight this guy you didn't prepare for no belt and less money, if you lose then you lose your #1 contender spot, if you win, you get nothing and the guy you beat can just say he had 20 minutes to get ready
Compared to
>Fight this guy who had been out partying in Cabo, Mexico. If you lose you still keep your featherweight belt and can get a future title-shot, if you win then you get to keep running your big irish mouth, and are now free to move up and fight for a 3rd belt at UFC 200, we're paying you the same amount so you shouldn't worry about it champ :D
Yeah totally the same scenario
>>74482268
Giving Tony the title shot straight away would be good yes but there's a huge money right waiting if they make Diaz vs McGregor III. Diaz only has to get past Ferguson.
Ferguson wouldn't mind because this would be a nice pay day.
Also there both Mexicunts the banter and tension would be good.
>>74482282
If you're going to whine about Bisping KOing Rockhold as a fluke. This is something you should be going berserk about. But you're a biased autist so you don't care
>>74482273
>Maybe for an unathletic overweight fuck like you maybe
Quit projecting kiddo.
>>74482233
they desperately wanted to keep 206 a ppv when it wasnt worth it so interm belt out of nowhere and aldo gets free upgrade to champ
penny wise and pound foolish
especially since pettis didnt make weight, the card sold like hot garbage regardless, and casuals could officially care less about the current FW champ or challenger right now
>At 76", Tony Ferguson's reach is the same as the average Light Heavyweight's. As a lightweight, he's longer than the next 3 current champs- Woodley, Bisping, and Cormier.
really makes one think how Magiga would deal with this reach
>>74482286
>waah waah less money
so he's going home with 0 money instead? lol
>>74482273
the day a fucking casual tells me i didn't watch a fight, you know how bad i would mess up your face if you said any of this to me irl
>>74482294
>no you!
Got me there!
>>74482301
>so he's going home with 0 money instead?
Damn casuals.
No he's getting paid show money plus getting PPV points. Only thing he's not getting is a fight bonus cause it would probably have been fight of the night.
>>74482305
You're the one projecting about being overweight cause I said that tiger knee he threw takes a lot of skill to land.
What are you so insecure about you have to take things so personally for?
>>74482292
They both got legitimately knocked out it's just Silva tried to walk off KO and Herb made him pay for it.
this shit sucks because now tony doesn't even get any hyper or interest behind him like he would if he won
conor only fighting for serious cash and i doubt tony can guarantee that like a third diaz fight would
>>74482310
You really think the UFC would pay him his show money to go home and put his feet up but offer him less to actually take a fight? lol
Tony is going home with $0 and a busted reputation. He's a chicken
>>74482315
Why are you raging so hard? Are you actually an overweight fatso? I'm sorry, I'll lay off. Just don't be so stupid next time!
>>74482301
Fuck off you retarded paddy. Tony gains very little in taking the fight.
>>74482329
Oh so you're just trolling. Should have known from that stupid flag.
>>74482316
Bisping didn't get knocked out. I think you're just a pussy.
predict tomorrow's PPV buys so we can estimate tyron's paycheck
>175k
>>74482329
WME are the only ones walking out of this with a busted reputation.
>>74482329
Once again retarded Paddy.. the way Tony handled the situation earned him a lot of respect and he gained new fans.
I swear Irish posters are more retarded than aussie ones.
>>74482356
Not stepping up to save a card and being scared to fight Michael Johnson earns you fans?
>>74482331
Think it's you who's actually raging here. All I said was that knee takes skill to land, even on a stationary target, not a lot of people in the gym, even trained fighters, land it but Anderson did it instantaneously and connected 100%, then out of nowhere you started projecting your own weight issues on me for no reason.
>>74482367
>save a card by fighting Michael Johnson
lol
>>74482346
250k
>>74482372
>think it's you who's actually raging >using this again btw lmao
>then writes a wall of text
lol chubs settle down
>>74482367
>Michael Johnson
Yeah he has a win over him from ages ago, but he's the absolute worst opponent for him. He literally gains nothing from it, plus Khabib just smashed Johnson, so why would anyone want to see him get smashed by Tony again?
why you guys have to be so mean
>>74482344
maybe not knocked unconscious but Silva could have finished him or at least landed some good strikes, hey pussy are you still there?
>>74482384
>Wall of text
It was just 3 sentences buddy. Calm down.
>>74482395
/heem/ are all autistic nerds in their mums basement venting frustration
Am I the only one who thinks Silva still got it and could make one last title run?
Muslims on pooicide watch.
Stay away from Vegas tomorrow guys.
>>74482391
tony said they offered him less to fight MJ and for no title (obviously)
and it's a terrible style switch. you gameplan for the sambo final boss and instead get decently slick boxer with some blacksplosion who has a win over you
better make that shit worth my while $-wise, like Conor Chad
>>74482367
Telling UFC/WME-IMG to go fuck themselves when they treat you like crap is what earns him respect.
>>74482411
>and could make one last title run?
Only if he fights Bisping again.
>>74482398
And if Bisping was allowed to do soccer kicks he would've knocked out Anderson in the 2nd round
>muh ifs!!!!
lol
>>74482399
zzzzzzzzzz
try harder fatty
>>74482323
This is why the best fight to make is Tony vs Diaz. Its a win-win for everybody. Perfect set up for a trilogy.
>>74482391
>Yeah he has a win over him from ages ago,
No he doesn't, you mean he has a lost to Johnson.
>>74482425
Quit projecting and get back on-topic dude. Keep your personal weight issues out of this.
>>74482421
so you're saying he's scared
>>74482429
Don't think Nate will accept it unless he's getting paid $1 million again.
>Why are we talking about steroids anyway?
>>74482438
Sorry, chubby fuck. You started sperging out about being fat so it went off topic.
Do you want me to talk about how stupid you are again, fatty?
>>74482429
the problem is nate doesnt wanna take a step back in pay, regardless of why he made so much vs conor specifically
wme is not gonna give him millions for a tony #1 contender fight
but that's an interesting as fuck style matchup if you get motivated nate
>>74482432
Yes Tony lost to Johnson ages ago, but if they fought again Tony would destroy him, granted they both have full camps.
>>74482451
>You started sperging out about being fat
Actually everyone can see that it's you who brought up being fat here: >>74482273
>>74482425
If you don't think 1 or 2 good strikes would have ended it there you're being naive. It's not even important at this point, Silva is done and Bisping won't last much longer.
>>74482456
Well you said
>why would anyone want to see him get smashed by Tony again?
As if Tony has beaten him before.
>>74482474
I meant why would anyone want to see Johnson fight when the memory of him getting destroyed by Khabib is still fresh?
>>74482462
>he's still actually crying about being called fat by an anonymous person
lol
>>74482470
What difference does it even fucking make? Where did I even disagree? He didn't do it because it happened at the very end of the round and was a cocky retard. It was a complete fluke regardless
If you picked Reem you goofed my friend, he does not fight on the outside and coupled with his glass chin Hunto will land dat right.
Zane Simon
>>74482495
>he does not fight on the outside
>>74482488
>There he goes again still projecting
I hope you get over your weight issues and learn to not hate yourself. Just cause someone disagrees with you doesn't mean you have to name-call, be level headed and explain yourself calmly and coherently.
Last (you) from me, I'm sure you'll want to get the final word in anyway :)
>>74482502
It will probably go down like this
>>74482495
If you picked Brock you goofed my friend, he does not like being hit in practice and coupled with his glass chin Hunto will land dat right.
He unironically types another wall of text to explain how he's not mad
lmao
>>74482244
is this pasta?
>>74482515
yeah that worked out great for Brock
>>74482495
>he does not fight on the outside
That's literally all he does. Did you even watch his last few fights?
>>74482286
McGregor fought Mendes.
>>74482529
Was it on 1 day's notice?
>>74482502
is stargazy pie actually good?
>>74481487
>footwear on bed/sofa
I bet Tony actually thinks he's getting a title shot next
>>74482534
The short notice was said to be an advantage for McGregor, not his opponents.
Mendes having more than one day means that it should be easier for Ferguson since his opponent only has 1 day prep.
FUCK THAT GUY THAT KEPT POSTING "FIGHTS MAY CHANGE AT ANY TIME"SHIT I TOLD HIM HE WAS JINXYNG IT
*pulls out of the fight at the last minute*
IF YOU AIN'T DUTCH, YOU AIN'T ____
>>74482570
Uh what? You're comparing apples and oranges here. If I recall correctly Chad got 2 weeks, and it was for an actual belt and half a million dollars, Conor wasn't taking a pay-cut, and it was also for an actual belt. Tony just said in an interview that he got offered Johnson, for even less money, and for no belt and it's on one day's notice. That's not worth the damn risk and it's not comparable to anything Conor has ever done.
>wakes up
>gets injured/sick
>>74482600
>he got offered Johnson, for even less money
less than 0?
Who's next?
:)
lets just be real here, Khabum is scared out of his mind.
>>74482611
>smiles at you
>jaw injury out 6 months
>>74482614
Less than the show money he's going to get if he even beat Johnson with a POTN and Reebok cash
Where is the russian that said he screencapped my post when saying Khabib would pull out,i called him Mikhail
>>74482600
>Chad got 2 weeks
Exactly. Ferguson's opponent would get 1 day. Thus Ferguson is fighting somebody with less prep time, so it should be easier for him. If you weren't an insane McGregor hater you'd realize the idiocy of claiming that Chad coming in an advantage for McGregor, but Johnson coming in on short notice is a disadvantage for Ferguson?
He is ducking Johnson, since Johnson would win, even on 1 day's notice.
>>74482617
Daniel Cormier
>>74482614
Are you trolling or just dumb?
Derrick Lewis wants HOW much? I know a guy
>>74482626
>so it should be easier for him.
No it shouldn't. He was preparing for a grappler, and he's being offered a striker who could very well knock him out, even on 1 day's notice. Yeah Johnson could win and he'd be stupid to take that meaningless fight especially if he's gonna get less money for it and lose his now #1 ranking.
>McGregor hater
What does any of this have to do with McGregor or being a hater? It's always the casuals who find a way to tie everything back to this chump even when the situation doesn't call for it. I just explained to you how the situations aren't similar but you still insist on forcing the stupid analogy.
>>74482632
Chad fucked him up on the ground
i like how ferguson predicted this exact situation,khabum is such a overrated piece of shit. Hope he not only has a career ending injury but also one that affects him for the rest of his life.
>>74482658
>>>/asp/
and make sure not to come back.
>>74482631
Sorry to burst your bubble m8 but Tony isn't getting paid. He's going home with nothing. If he was getting paid his show money regardless then he wouldn't be making such a stink about the money they were offering for the Johnson fight.
He had two options. Get paid to heem a guy who has a win over you. Or admit you're scared and go home with $0. He chose the latter.
>>74482663
shouldn't you be strapping some dynamite to your chest right now ahmed?
>>74482656
k
conor was in zero danger compared to what was happening to chad on the feet
>>74482663
Easiest way to spot a mandrama faggot is that they scream /asp/
Go back to your containment board, faggot
>>74482676
No I shouldn't but you should head back to your containment board.
>>74482683
see
>>74482680
get exposed faggot
>>74482679
>>74482679
y...you can't do that!
>>74482679
he was getting his ass kicked and almost got choked out
you being a snarkie aspie doesnt change that
>>74482685
You can join him too. Assuming you're not already him.
>>74482689
>chad sits in guard entire time
>literal second he tries to advance position conor gets up
yeah lad it was super dangerous for conor
ILL BUTCHA YE FROM DA BOTTOM
>>74482680
>>74482685
Nice 4chan pass.
How much did you have to cut into your hot-pockets budget to be able to afford it?
Can you post the webm of them squaring off before the fight starts and Conor looking disgusted at Chad's size
>>74482694
>sits in guard entire time
is that supposed to mean anything? no? good.
>second he tries to advance position conor gets up
and conor almost got caught and choked out lol
>c-c-conor is the goat!!!!
lol
>>74482693
that's me you newfag, jesus
>>74482699
lol samefag with the 4chan pass projecting now, Classic! Sad!
>>74482699
>>74482693
Go back to your containment board you witless faggot
>>74482673
I can't disrespect an irishman but you need to understand what you saying my man, that's ridiculous
>>74482705
ABMcG is a mental illness m8
>>74482705
>>74482705
kek please find a moment from that fight where conor's neck is in dangerous
the look on their faces to start round two says it all. chad was pure desperation matter of time mode
>>74482716
oh so you didnt watch the fight sorry just come back next time we'll have a great discussion
what was Goobs secret to always making 145?
reminder don't respond the Irish poster, all he posts is bait
>>74482714
>I can't disrespect an irishman
fag
>>74482650
> I just explained to you how the situations aren't similar
Nah, you didn't.
> McGregor gets paid more money than Ferguson, therefore McGregor can not get credit for taking short notice fights, and Ferguson can be excused for not taking them.
Idiocy.
You'd think Ferguson want to avenge the loss to Johnson, anyway. That should be motivation even without money, but he doesn't. Because he would lose again.
1 year anniversary of the irish spring chicken getting strangled is tomorrow.
How are you going to celebrate?
>>74482721
being natty. now that he's on gear he'll never be 145 again
>>74482714
It's just the facts my white friend.
They gave Tony some gas money, a reebok uniform, pinky promised that he'd get a title shot next and then sent him on his way. Anybody who thinks he's getting his show money just doesn't understand how the UFC operates.
Ive seen Robin black and other people on the Internet mention that khabib was eating Tiramisu on the embedded series. Cant fucking find it. Did ufc Cut that Part Out or am I blind? Can anyone tell me which Part and at what time he eats it. Must be 1,2 or at Maximum the 3 Part...
>>74482725
>Nah, you didn't.
I think you may have missed this post: >>74482600
It may do you a lot of good to go read it again.
>Idiocy
What is actual idiocy is comparing two situations that are vastly different from one another.
>You'd think Ferguson want to avenge the loss to Johnson, anyway
I'd think Conor wanted to avenge his loss to Nate but in order to do so he needed 6 months to get ready.
>That should be motivation even without money
>he would lose again.
And you have the nerve to call anyone a hater.
>Muh king Conor
Grow up.
>>74482502
i thought you were joking but toast sandwiches are real. no wonder bisping emigrated to america
Reminder if you watch grown men's soap opera who pretend to fake wrestle in speedos past the age of 12 then you have a serious mental illness.
>>74482721
Potato diet
DA FITE GAYM ES LAYK DA STOK MOCKIT
You chose wrong buddeh
>talks mad shit, then pulls out last minute
>turn down replacement fights
>puts on boring fights
things not related to pic related
>>74482195
>Renzo's face
>>74482745
>I'd think Conor wanted to avenge his loss to Nate but in order to do so he needed 6 months to get ready.
Here you go again implying that the one day's notice is actually an advantage for Johnson, but the short notice for Mendes was a disadvantage for Mendes.
> What is actual idiocy is comparing two situations that are vastly different from one another.
Yeah, McGregor was risking more, since he was risking his title shot. Ferguson wouldn't be risking his title shot, since doesn't actually have a title shot yet. This fight with Khabib was for glorified #1 contender's bout, that's all the interim belt is.
> And you have the nerve to call anyone a hater.
Because I think he'd lose again? That makes me a hater? Yeah, Johnson would smash him, again.
>Calls himself a god
>Says he can beat anyone at lightweight
>Loses to a 19-10 journeyman
>Cries about doing press conferences cause he realized he had a fake brown belt and needed a legit jiu jitsu coach
Things related to pic related
>talks the same mad shit in a scripted way
>talks about being humble while whining on Twitter about how flukey it was
>pissing too hot before he has to go back to the US then claims "m-muh" focus and dodges an uneducated stoner for the biggest card in the sports history
>etches out a controversial decision and rides on fixed fights against mighty manlets
you know who
>>74482792
>upward career arc not even affected by loss
pretty rare
do you guys rememeber when Tony was saying he could drop to 145? what a retarded meme that was
Why is Khabib ducking Tony?
>>74482801
Didn't even sell out the arena he was fighting in
Sad!
>>74482803
You do realize it is Khalabeeb who missed weight horrifically and fucked the UFC, correct?
>>74482810
>holding every record that correlates with securing your family's future
>>74482814
yeah but you do realize Tony also commented today on how difficult his weight cut was as well. Also its not like Khabib ever said he could drop to 145
>>74482786
>the one day's notice is actually an advantage for Johnson
SHORT NOTICE is ALWAYS an advantage to the guy coming in on short notice. This got proven time and time again in 2016, most notably with Bisping. The fact that you can't drill it into your head that the scenarios aren't the same is simply outstanding. Do you want me to write them out to you in bullet form?
>since he was risking his title shot
> for glorified #1 contender's bout, that's all the interim belt is.
Funny how you call Conor's win over Chad a legit win, but then say Khabib vs. Tony was for glorified #1 contender. Almost like you're biased for a certain irishman or something and lack any sort of objectivity.
>since doesn't actually have a title shot yet.
Are you autistic? He's the #1 contender right now, if he loses to Johnson he goes all the way back to #6.
It's pretty clear you haven't watched this sport longer than 2 years. You have a really dumb way of getting your points across.
>>74482821
>thinking he gives a shit about family
He does coke with hookers in Vegas, bud
>>74482828
stop posting like this you faggot
>>74482801
>upward career arc not even affected by loss
Cause he has eternal nuthuggers like you on his side.
>>74481583
>No Kebab vs Cucuy
>>74482837
I'll keep posting the way I like faggot.
>>74482838
>how dare you like someone who fights all the times and is exciting
won the fw belt, lost at 170, avenged at 170, and won the lw belt all in a span shorter than some of aldo's title defenses
>>74482837
He should type like a genetically mutated aspie like you right
>>74482854
You can be a nuthugger all you want. Just don't expect everyone to be one.
do these imbeciles realize that this wouldn't have happened if HE was in this card
>>74482828
>SHORT NOTICE is ALWAYS an advantage to the guy coming in on short notice
Okay, then McGregor showed his bravery by taking short notice fights against Mendes and Nate.
> Funny how you call Conor's win over Chad a legit win,
Yes, it was. Unless the fight was rigged? It was also a glorified #1 contender's bout. That's not contradictory.
Thing is, McGregor wasn't fighting for the #1 contender spot, since he already had it. He defended it against Mendes.
> Are you autistic? He's the #1 contender right now
No he is not. This fight against Khabib was for the #1 contender spot. He may be given the #1 contender spot now that Khabib pulled out, or he may be booked to fight somebody else. Either could happen.
> You have a really dumb way of getting your points across.
Nup. All my points are correct and consistent.
>>74482863
should i type like dis does this make you fiel so much better
>>74482864
i bet you thought khabib was going to end the dream
>>74482153
lol
>>74482872
no you should kill yourself, that would make me feel better
I'm not anti WMMA or anything but I really don't understand the decision to bump the Cooper fight to the main card. Elkins/Bektic or Alcantara/Sanders would have made a lot more sense 2bh
gps out for years
> still might win cause bisping is a shit fighter
Reminder that Luke Sanders is literally free money
>>74482880
theres a good chance Cynthia Calvillo is a future contender
I can't find it in me to give a shit about gsp bisping
How fucked is Wonderboi tomorrow?
I feel like this is the most predictable main event. Wooldley will probably fit him in the second round.
>>74482867
>Interim title is fake news
>Doesn't have the self awareness to know that Conor vs. Chad was for the interim belt.
Why are you even talking about UFC 189? Is that the earliest PPV you can remember, or something, in my first post I painstakingly went through the trouble of going step by step how these two scenarios aren't the same at all. In no world should someone accept a ONE DAY notice fight for even LESS money and with MORE on the line.
>This fight against Khabib was for the #1 contender spot.
>All my points are correct and consistent.
It was also for the LW Interim belt. You don't even know basic facts from recent events.
>>74482904
how exciting
>>74482880
and theyre both cuties
>>74482908
>Wooldley will probably fit him in the second round.
sounds hot
>>74482879
aww did mommy not give the baby waby his weetle bottle is the baby gonna cwwwyyyy???
>>74482914
she literally looks like John Lineker
>>74482909
>In no world should someone accept a ONE DAY notice fight for even LESS money
LESS than 0?
>>74482928
fuck
>>74482880
I called it well beforehand just fyi:
>>74474969
>>74482935
He's getting paid show money
>>74482935
>Ferguson isn't getting paid his show money
Irish MMA knowledge, everyone.
>>74482942
>>74482942
Don't respond
>>74482908
woodley by KO/TKO any round is +375 on bovada right now, +170 for wonderboy
+800 by end of round 1 for woodley
I seriously don't get it
>>74482951
I'll do what I want. Don't respond to me
>>74482954
What if Woodley wins by submission like he almost did last time?
>>74482928
im not saying youre gay but you sure that when you see this 6-7.7/10 woman, you see a man?
>>74482909
>Doesn't have the self awareness to know that Conor vs. Chad was for the interim belt.
Yeah, I do know that. What's your point? It was a glorified #1 contender's bout.
> Why are you even talking about UFC 189?
Because some can was discrediting McGregor, so I responded to him, then you responded to me.
> In no world should someone accept a ONE DAY notice fight for even LESS money and with MORE on the line.
Yes, and I addressed all this.
Usually, people discredit McGregor because his opponent's came in on short notice, now you're trying to say it's actually more dangerous for you to fight people on short notice. Unique point of view, but okay.
> less money
> McGregor gets paid more money, so nothing he does deserves credit
Idiocy
> more on the line
McGregor had a guaranteed shot against against the champion Aldo and risked that.
Ferguson did not have a guaranteed shot against the champion McGregor. He may have to fight somebody else now. Of course, if the UFC try to book him against Johnson for an interim belt, he will try to avoid.
>This fight against Khabib was for the #1 contender spot.
> It was also for the LW Interim belt
They are the same thing. Interim title fight is just a glorified #1 contender bout.
>>74482962
+850 for Woodley by submission
+2000 for Thompson by submission
>>74482962
He didn't. That guillotine wasn't in.
So is Khabib done at 155? Allegedly he walks around at 190.
Do you see him doing well at 170?
>>74482893
>might
He will win.
>>74482942
>>74482946
>Ferguson is getting paid his show money but still complaining they're not paying him enough to save the card and avenge a loss
>>74482968
jesu cristo
>>74482987
thanks for this hearty kek my good friend
>>74482984
he's a pussy for trying to suck himself down to 155 in the first place
I'll be surprised if he ever gets a high profile fight again without at least proving he can make 155 a couple more times
There are actually people here who think the UFC told Ferguson:
"If you don't fight you'll get paid $300, 000 (or whatever his show money is)
If you do fight, we're only going to pay you $200, 000.
We're going to pay you more to just go home then we would for you to fight"
If that's Ferguson's story, then we know very clearly that he is lying and ducking Michael Johnson.
>>74482988
Correct
>>74482988
How many times does this have to be explained to you for you to understand. Why would Tony fight a guy on 1 day notice for less money and no belt when he can possibly sit out for a month and have the match rescheduled with the terms he had before.
>>74482999
kek
>>74483020
I'm sure PPV points were part of it, and like it or not Khabib was the draw here
>>74482988
Remember that time that Conor took a fight on ten days notice and got fucked up and finished?
They're not paying Ferg enough to risk his streak, especially since he won't have enough clout to get an immediate rematch if he loses decisively.
There is a number that Ferguson will accept. The UFC won't match it. Watch Dana's scrum with the press and notice a complete lack of throwing Ferguson under the bus.
>>74483033
I thought only champions got a cut of PPV.
>>74483020
He got 50/50 for his fight against Barboza and almost certainly the same against Lando
>>74482968
>people discredit McGregor because his opponent's came in on short notice,
McGregor has only had 2 short notice fights in the UFC. He won one and lost the other, if Chad had more in the gas tank he'd have probably lost that too. So I don't know why you're arguing that short notice fights are such a bad idea for the guy coming in when less pressure is on them. It's not a unique point of view, it's literal observation.
>he will try to avoid.
You don't know this, and you're pretty much a dummy to believe that Tony is scared of fighting Michael Johnson again. Did you even watch the last time they fought?
Interim belt is guaranteed #1 contendership. With Khabib falling sick, UFC might decide to do Conor vs. Nate III whenever that irishman is done begging Floyd to fight him. Tony doesn't have that chance now, and if he fights Johnson and loses then he goes back to where he was 2 years ago. It's stupid to do just to prove some neckbeard fans, you're not even a fan you clearly hate him, wrong
>>74483033
pretty funny that youre so sure that ppv points were part of the deal because thats not trrue
>>74483046
Anyone who has sufficient draw power gets PPV points. CM Punk, for instance.
>>74483020
I wouldn't put it past WME considering the decisions they've made just to create profit. Why would they pay Tony the same amount to fight Johnson as to fight Khabib when they'll certainly make less money themselves?
>>74482976
brb putting my life savings on wonderboy by sub, im gunna be a millionaire
>>74483029
>less money
No, you just don't get it m8
Either Tony isn't getting his show money, in which case I doubt the UFC were offering him less than 0 to fight Johnson
Or Tony is getting his show money, in which case why is he turning down a fight vs Johnson?
>>74483046
That's the way it's, he's simply wrong.
The thing is Tony was going to get paid good by taking the fight against Khalabeeb, taking another fight against other opponent would inevitably change the terms of that contract.
>>74483062
Source?
>>74483072
> Tony isn't getting his show money
Does your dad work for the UFC?
there's literally nothing wrong with Tony not wanting to fight MJ on 1 day notice
he did everything right
there was nothing to gain from that fight happening again if the money wasn't right
tony has his eyes on the belt, another loss to MJ would fuck that up monumentally
>>74483072
>Or Tony is getting his show money, in which case why is he turning down a fight vs Johnson?
Because if he loses there's literally zero chance he gets enough of a streak to fight McGregor before Mecgregor retires.
There is a *huge* amount of risk and not a sufficiently large upside to take it on.
>>74483067
>Why would they pay Tony the same amount to fight Johnson as to fight Khabib when they'll certainly make less money themselves?
Because Tony Ferguson vs Michael Johsnon will make more money than Tony Ferguson getting paid to fight nobody and just going home.
>>74483082
that's why Conor and Cerrone are so unpopular, certainly nothing to gain.
>>74483043
>throw Ferguson under the bus
And risk the truth coming out? That Tony isn't getting paid shit. He's going home empty handed. Gas money and a pinky promise, that's all he got.
>>74483097
cerrone is a bum who makes shit for money and conor is an anomaly
being a company man is hardly worth it
>>74483095
> Tony Ferguson vs Michael Johsnon will make more money than Tony Ferguson getting paid to fight nobody and just going home
NO ONE IS GOING TO BUY A PPV JUST FOR MICHAEL JOHNSON.
Stop responding to the blatant Irish troll wanker you mongs.
>>74483106
you're delusional if you think he's going home empty handed
a camp alone costs 25-45k
he didn't just do all that and show up to vegas, promote the fight, make weight, and promote it AGAIN and go home empty handed
retard alert
>>74483106
He weighed in, you idiot. He's getting paid his show money.
>the actual state of Irish MMA
>>74483097
When did Conor and Cerrone ever agree to a fight on 1 day's notice?
>mcautism shitters are actually upset Khabib getting exposed so they're getting mad at Tony
lmao
why hasnt there been any updates on khabibs health?
>>74483119
yeah maybe cause he doesnt actually think that, he's just saying it to get responses from (retards) like yourself
retard alert
>>74483130
like I give a fuck
irish are all retards anyway, how am I supposed to tell the difference
>>74483076
Contracts haven't come out, but you think that Punk didn't get points in his contract? That would be absurd. His ability to promote himself is his only benefit to the UFC, you want to maximise his incentive.
>>74483122
Do you really, really believe Conor wouldn't have taken it, honestly asking
>>74483141
1 day's notice with a pay-cut and no belt on the line? Yeah he'd have said no.
>>74483141
who knows, he certainly might have
but if tony did it wouldn't just give him mcgregor like respect and popularity overnight
the risk simply was not worth the reward
>>74483095
But it won't make nearly the amount of money that Khabib/Ferg would. Ferguson was probably expecting to make a certain amount of money from this fight and he would make nowhere close to that by fighting Johnson due to the PPV taking a hit. I think WME anticipates that as well so they decided to pay Tony less. That makes sense to me. Tony has a number and WME refuses to match it, regardless of how much they would have made if Tony fought Johnson
>>74483120
So he'd be guaranteed his show money for a fight that didn't take place AND whatever they offered him to fight Johnson?
So why turn down the fight and moan about the amount of money offered?
>>74483082
he would have avenged the only loss of his ufc career and almost certainly would have moved up to number 1 contender in the rankings so it's pretty untrue to say there was nothing to gain
>>74481583
Thompson by kung fu heem
Teymur by laundry heem
Evans by letting it happen
Hunt by murder
>>74483127
khabib is dead isnt he?
wish me luck guys today is my karate green belt test. even though i'm nervous, overweight and have to pay 30 euros i'm gonna show up.
>>74483163
hes already the #1 contender now
he is above mj regardless if mj has a win over him
Reminder that McGregor got offered $15 million by Floyd and he turned it down cause he's a pussy who is eternally shook of boxing him
>>74483159
No, dumbass.
>>74483166
He better be
>>74483127
A lot of holes in the desert, and a lot of problems are buried in those holes. But you gotta do it right. I mean, you gotta have the hole already dug before you show up with a package in the trunk. Otherwise, you're talking about a half-hour to forty-five minutes worth of digging. And who knows who's gonna come along in that time? Pretty soon, you gotta dig a few more holes. You could be there all fuckin' night.
>>74483141
After he lost to Nate or before?
>>74483159
>So why turn down the fight and moan about the amount of money offered?
Because the amount of money they offered isn't worth the risk. Bookies must love you.
>>74483163
>and almost certainly would have moved up to number 1 contender
HE IS ALREADY THE NUMBER 1 CONTENDER.
WHAT ALL THIS CONFIRMS IS THAT NOW CONOR CAN COME BACK AND SAY HE WANTS TO FIGHT NATE THEN RETIRE.
>>74483178
wouldnt they have realeased some kind of statement by now?
>>74483127
Because he's as healthy as a horse.
>>74483187
>Not putting $10000 to win $100 when Ronda fought Holly
It's free money lad.
Oh which reminds me of that guy who bet $30 to win $3 on that fight. Are you still here? I need to laugh at you.
>>74483192
because he probably lost a 1/4 of his fanbase with this amature shit and is too depressed embarrassed to come out just yet
>>74483202
Dockschizodwarfaspie still posts here
>>74483154
You don't get it.
Ferguson's story is that he is getting paid his his show money to fight NOBODY.
> WME anticipates that as well so they decided to pay Tony less
They can't pay Tony less. Tony's story is that he is getting his show money for fighting nobody, and that he was offered less than his show money to fight Johnson.
So, according to Ferguson, WME were willing to pay Ferguson more to just go home than they were to fight Johnson, and that is why he is not fighting Johnson.
It doesn't matter how badly you think Ferguson vs Johnson would draw. It would draw more than Ferguson not fighting at all.
So the story is obviously lies.
>>74483187
But he's already getting his show money. So he'll fight Khabib for $X but won't fight Michael Johnson for $X + $Y. Something doesn't add up.
>>74481865
Kalabeeb has that immigrant mentality.
>>74483141
conor absolutely wouldn't take a fight on 1 day notice when he is basically guaranteed a title shot even if he doesn't fight
>>74483215
>it would draw more than Ferguson not at all
Yeah dude I'm sure those 5 people who wanted to only see Khabib-Ferguson are gonna be so pumped to see his Johnson fight on 1 day notice
Moron
>>74483218
Do you not realize that his X against Johnson specifically is less than his X against Khabib? Of course you don't
>>74483218
BECAUSE +$Y ISNT WORTH THE HASSLE.
WOULD YOU AGREE IF I PAID YOU $20 TO BE IN A BARE KNUCKLE FIGHT WITH NGANNOU
>>74483218
>So he'll fight Khabib for $X but won't fight Michael Johnson for $X + $Y.
He spent an entire training camp preparing for a guy who has terrible striking, a severe reach disadvantage, and focusing on takedown defense. He has no time to do literally anything to prepare for the Michael Johnson fight.
Ask yourself why Conor didn't offer to fight. Why didn't he save the card?
>>74483215
He wouldn't be fighter for the belt either. You can't forget that major factor.
>takes the fight for less money
>subs MJ
>gets on the mic
>calls out khabib for being a pussy and the consequences of inbreeding
>calls Coner out immediately after that
>proceeds to curse on live tv
does this not secures him as the next in-line to fight Magyga and the biggest check of his life?
>>74483239
Why would he fight MJ again???
>>74483228
>X is less than X
>>74483239
>Johnson will shoot a takedown
yeah sure that's happened ever
>>74483239
dude
he is already next in line
he is the #1 contender
wtf is so hard to understand about that
>>74483249
>i literally can't read
>>74483246
BECAUSE OF THE MIC MAN THE MIC HAVEN'T YOU LEARNED ANYTHING FROM HIM?
>>74483254
just stop debating potato niggers. he has conors dick across his eyes, he cant read
>>74483254
evidently
>>74483253
so do you think Conor would give a shit about defending it if GSP humiliates Bisping
>>74483253
Yes Tony is the #1 contender, but now Conor can just come back and decide he doesn't want to fight Tony and that he wants to do the third fight with Nate.
>>74483215
Isn't it a possibility that Tony's show money vs Khabib > Tony's show + win money against Johnson
If his show money vs Johnson is the same as it was vs Khabib (which I can't see being true, why wouldn't Tony renegotiate for this fight) then you are correct and I am wrong.
>>74483261
>X is less than X
>get paid X to show up
>on top of that get paid Y + any possible bonuses to actually fight
>your total fight purse is X+Y+bonuses
Isn't that how it works?
Because the way I understood it, UFC cut down on Y because Khabib pulled out and Cucuy said fuck it and just went home with X. And in his case his show up money (X) is more than what he was offered to fight Johnson (Y).
>>74483268
If conor wants to fight lightweight, it's gonna have to be Tony. period. fighting MJ again wouldn't have changed that
if anything he will just have to wait longer if mcgregor wants to fight GSP
eventually tony will get the belt, that is all that matters to him
>>74483265
Thanks for agreeing that you're illiterate. Now we can move on :)
>>74483275
yes
i know you're a 196er, but keep up lad
>>74483275
>what is a simultaneous equation
>>74483298
>X is less than X
Damn it you mooks this isn't hard to understand.
He was obviously paid more to fight Khabib. Khabib was the biggest draw of this entire card. Let's say he was getting paid $300k total to fight Khabib win/lose, now Khabib is sick and he can't fight. Let's assume his show money was $250k and win bonus was $50k
Then the UFC come up to him and said, "Listen do you want to fight Michael Johnson for $100k plus 50k bonus?", And Tony's like, "No that's half off what I was initially making, make it $250k and for the title then I'll take it"...But UFC refuse to budge and say the highest they can go is $175k, for no belt, and an opportunity to get KO'd by an explosive striker when you'd been training for a grappler, so Tony says no deal, and UFC cancel the fight. Tony gets his $250k show money plus possible PPV points for his worries and gets to go home to his family without the possibility of losing everything.
Get some bloody perspective.
>>74483273
>>74483273
The crux of the matter is that it isn't logical for the UFC to offer him less to fight Johnson than they are allegedly paying him to go home and sit on his ass, especially given that they don't even have to pay Khabib a cent. Tony's story is that he turned down the fight because he would be getting less vs Johnson than his show money vs Khabib. It doesn't make sense. Somebody is telling fibs.
>>74483324
100% the irish retard is just trolling and pretending to be an idiot
sad
the argie might actually be retarded
this is #1 bullshit
>>74483324
Kebab isn't getting his show money.
>>74483327
You absolute cuntwaffle threadshitter.
THE SHOW MONEY AGAINST KHABIB IS IN THE BANK.
The UFC is offering him *less* to win against Johnson than if he had won against Khabib.
>tired of seeing stories about 209
FUCKING FINALLY
How's Calvillo' bunda game?
>>74483331
>X is less than X
>>74483343
I'm talking about Tony Ferguson!
>>74483355
Dubs confirm you dropped out of primary education.
your conditioning sucks
>>74483365
Can't drop out of being homeschooled by the local 3 thumbed one eyed drunk la
>>74483367
>take your face off
>>74483324
>"Listen do you want to fight Michael Johnson for $100k plus 50k bonus?"
if it is indeed how you say it is, then the UFC shouldn't even offer because not a single person in their right might would agree to potential injuries AND a pay cut
anyone watched the pfister fight yesterday?
he looked better than ever, good ground and pound, got out of an armbar and finished with choke. i'll give the pfist like 2 or 3 years in bellator and then he's back in ufc.
Tony prob also getting reduced PPV points for fight against MJ because it's not a draw
IM GONNA TAYK YO HAWT OUT N EET IT
>>74483381
should we tell him?
>>74483381
dude he retired to start Pfister Pfighting Promotions (PPP)
>>74483379
>not a single person in their right might would agree to potential injuries AND a pay cut
I just watched an interview where that's what Tony said happened. That they offered even less money to fight a dangerous striker.
No deal.
>>74483324
> the ufc would rather pay $250k for Tony to just go home than $250k for Tony to fight Johnson
Obvious lies.
Time to admit that nobody knows what "they wanted to cut my pay" actually meant.
>>74483381
lad.....
>>74483397
*Pfederation
I train PPP
Khabib is disappointing af.
>>74483406
The UFC paid DC half as much to fight Anderson as they would have for him to fight Jones.
>>74483406
>Obvious lies
I don't know the exact figures but it's been confirmed numerous times that you don't get paid the same amount to fight different people, especially if you're a top ranked guy. If you have a clause in your contract that says you get your guaranteed money then you're getting your guaranteed money. That's why fighters have agents, and that's why contracts exist in the first place.
>>74483409
>>74483412
>>74483397
SHUT UP PFIST WILL BE #1 P4P IN BELLATOR
>>74483420
put those pfists up and lets see whos the better man
>>74483430
He retired lmao
>>74483365
>X is less than X
>>74483427
If he didn't fight anybody and just went home would he have have got the same amount as he would have got to fight Jones?
Did DC essentially pay the UFC to fight Anderson?
>>74483406
It's almost pointless even speculating because all the contract information is in the dark. Hopefully Dana White says something about it tomorrow and then I can go by the polar opposite of whatever he says.
these pfists are making me laugh, they're so good
>>74483428
>I don't know the exact figures but it's been confirmed numerous times that you don't get paid the same amount to fight different people
The supposed alternative for the UFC is that they have to pay him MORE to fight NOBODY and just go home.
>>74483404
fuck a dangerous striker, I wouldn't agree to it if they picked a midget amputee for an opponent
it's literally lose-lose, do they not understand that there has to be some SOME fucking incentive for an agreement? you're not even fighting for improvement in standing
this semen slurping s̶p̶o̶r̶t̶ entertainment show needs unionization in a major way
>>74481496
this
Will Khabib ever fucking learn?
AKA is shit and people get injured all the fucking time. Go in a food gym.
>>74483442
>I literally cannot read basic english
>>74483430
>>74483431
say what you want about Pfister, but he is literally the NattyGOAT if you think about it.
>>74483455
>and just go home.
Yes cause his opponent didn't show up. He's free to either take another fight or go home. That's what Ian McCall has been doing for the last 3 years. That's what happens when an opponent misses weight, do you know how contracts work?
>>74481496
hands out gas money and pinky promises
>>74483436
>>74483431
>>74483452
NOT TRUE PFIST SAID HE'LL COME BACK HE'lL JUST FOCUSES ON HIS COMPANY FOR A WHILE
JUST LIKE CONOR FOCUSES ON HIS KID
THEN HE COME BACK NO. 1 PFIST 4 PFIST
>>74481496
Trigger increasingly nervous Irishmen about threats to Conor
Reminder that if Holloway lost to Pettis, Aldo would be fighting Artem for the FW belt.
>>74483442
>what is a simultaneous equation
Actually kind of fits, I doubt Rogan knows either.
>>74483445
Eh.
DC wouldn't have gotten paid if he hadn't weighed in, and he wouldn't have been able to weigh in if he hadn't agreed to fight Anderson.
>>74483455
>The supposed alternative for the UFC is that they have to pay him MORE to fight NOBODY and just go home.
Ireland, did you get a proxy?
Ferguson is getting his show money against Khabib regardless of what happens. Where he is making *less* if he takes the Johnson fight is if he wins: he does not win as much as if he had beaten Khabib.
This is not hard.
>>74482124
>weedman moves leg slightly
>leg explosion
I guess it depends what body part is being hit by the sledgehammer.
/abc/
>>74483468
> He's free to either take another fight or go home
And if he chooses to "go home" he still gets a certain amount of money, so it makes no sense for them to offer less money to fight the replacement than what they are forced to pay if he doesn't fight at all.
No sense to offer 150k to fight Johnson, if he's getting 250k to just go home. At minimum, they would offer 250k.
>>74481636
weight cutting is ridiculous
random weigh-ins 8x/yr
average them, that's your weight class
now fight
that would fuck up Conor, among others, but so be it, tired of seeing him handle manlets anyway.
Tony had 50/50 in fight against Edson
He literally negotiated a contract for this fight against Khabib specifically
He would be making 20k in Reebok money for being a title challenger
He would be guaranteed PPV points for the Khabib fight
>>74483478
> This is not hard.
Seems hard for you to follow the conversation.
I made a response to this post.
>>74483324
>>74481800
fuck that meme
all hendo did was stand around hoping for a chance to land an overhand right, Bisping pushed the fight.
Hendo was like a tired non-coked-up version of Liddell, nothing more.
>>74483492
>it makes no sense for them to offer less money to fight the replacement
What are you talking about? It makes absolute sense for them to offer less money for a replacement cause then the previous contract gets nullified since he wouldn't be fighting Khabib.
>No sense to offer 150k to fight Johnson
>At minimum, they would offer 250k.
>Take your money and go home
>Take this money and risk getting knocked out, losing your ranking and not getting a belt
How does the latter sound like the better deal?
>>74483512
Bisping had 6 years to train not getting hit by the same shot, and he got dropped twice by it.
>>74481800
>a prior history of getting controversial decision wins
Am I the only one who remembers Decision Dan?
>>74481953
>>Bisping is gonna beat Silva, Rockhold, Henderson and GSP IN THAT ORDER
Rockhold doesn't deserve to be in the same sentence as those other guys.
Anyway:
Silva: old
Hendo: old
GSP: much smaller
Reminder that with GSP ducking Tyron he inadvertently confirms that Tyron is the best WW of all time.
>>74483540
>GSP: much smaller
Like my girlfriend used to say, "size doesn't matter when I'm on my back."
>>74483523
>It makes absolute sense for them to offer less money for a replacement
No, it doesn't, because Tony supposedly has the option to collect his show money, fight nobody and just go home. They can not expect Ferguson to accept the replacement unless they at least pay him what he would get to fight nobody.
I hope Rumble dims DC's lights so that AKA never holds up any other division ever again.
>>74483478
>what is a simultaneous equation
so why don't you solve it?
>>74483550
the best WW in the world wouldnt get literally memed on by Nate Marquardt. Not to mentuion his extremely boring losses to Shields and Rory.
>>74483560
How can you not STILL understand that the risk of fighting someone on 1 day's notice outweighs whatever money it was they offered?
>They can not expect Ferguson to accept the replacement unless they at least pay him what he would get to fight nobody.
Yes they bloody can cause fighting Khabib is not the same as fighting Chris Avila, and they're not gonna offer the same amount of money for fighting the latter.
>>74483534
>Am I the only one who remembers Decision Dan?
not the only one.
only newfriends think Hendo leaves behind a legacy of exciting fights lol
>>74483576
There's no shame in losing to Jake Shields and Rory.
>Nate Marquadt
Guy who got USADA'd hard and was clearly on the juice back then.
screencap this post:
after having beaten GSP and yomero, bisping will fight conor mcgregor in early 2018.
>>74483581
Chris Avila is a bigger draw than Kebab
>>74483559
>>74483589
t. Tyrone
>>74483560
think about it you doof. Khabib, because of how big the fight was, allowed Tony to negotiate a higher pay. If he were to fight someone else, he would not make as much money.
>>74483581
>How can you not STILL understand that the risk of fighting someone on 1 day's notice outweighs whatever money it was they offered?
Who are you arguing against here?
> Yes they bloody can cause fighting Khabib is not the same as fighting Chris Avila, and they're not gonna offer the same amount of money for fighting the latter.
The supposed alternative is that he gets paid the same amount to fight Khabib to just go home. If he gets paid a certain amount to fight NOBODY than he can not be expected to accept any less to fight anybody.
>>74483576
Face it, Woodley is the best WW in the world, otherwise why would GSP duck him to fight Bisping?
>>74483622
because Bisping sucks?
>>74483621
Read this guy's post several times: >>74483611
Lost patience trying to explain why 2+2 = 4 to an Australian.
>>74483611
> allowed Tony to negotiate a higher pay
He supposedly gets this higher pay to not fight anybody and just go home.
He is not going to fight ANYBODY for less than what he is getting to just go home, so it makes no sense to offer a fight for less than that.
>>74483621
yes but if he is offered a fight it is a bigger risk for not much of a reward. Johnson is a hard striker and he would be getting paid LESS than if he were still fighting Khabib. If he fights no one he still makes show money. So its better to do that, and fight no one because then there is less danger and still money.
I'm all in
>>74483639
>yes but if he is offered a fight it is a bigger risk for not much of a reward
So, he is getting paid more to fight Johnson now? More, but not ENOUGH more to justify risk? That makes sense.
Him being offered less to fight than to just go home does not.
>>74483637
X + Y > X + Z
Ferguson was offered Z to fight Johnson, when he was getting paid Y to fight Khabib.
Do people really think GSP can beat Bisping?
>>74483650
Bisping's been wrestlefucked before.
>>74483647
Yes, but this is different to the claim in post >>74483324
>>74483645
No you outback. He is making SHOWMONEY for just showing up. He doesn't have to fight for this money, he gets it plainly for weighing in. Its Khabib's fault, not his, see? He still gets paid for showing up and being on weight and being able to fight, but because KHABIB, not Tony failed to get weight, Tony now has an option to fight another person. He said he does not want to do this for the amount they offered so he is taking the showmoney.
>tfw it keeps hitting me out of nowhere that khabib/tony is off
depressed desu lads
if Kennedy beats Bisping, GSP beats Bisping
>>74483666
>666
THE BEAST HAS SPOKEN
>>74483664
Who are you arguing against? I am saying how the UFC would not do what is alleged in post >>74483324 and here you are ranting about something I haven't even denied.
>>74483661
Show money for fighting Khabib is higher or equal to fighting Michael Johnson and winning. Why do you find this so hard to understand? Why?
>>74483599
Lithcuck making gains
>>74483687
>how the UFC would not do what is alleged in post
YES THEY WOULD
WHATS WRONG WITH YOU WHY WOULDN'T THEY DO THAT? THEYRE GONNA LOSE PPV BUYS WITH KHABIB GONE SO WHY WOULD THEY OFFER THE SAME AMOUNT OR MORE TO FIGHT A LESSER OPPONENT
NOW IM JUST MAD
Khabib is like a stock market
>>74483715
yeah but his stock is one thats always over valued
>>74483687
Yes but he is getting showmoney so he needs more of an incentive to fight Michael Johnson so if they dont negotiate it they are going to let Tony just take the showmoney instead.
Like Tony said, they were able to pay him enough to fight Johnson.
>>74483562
me too. like the fighters, hate their activity
maybe papa stipe can send cain off to retirement with his manlet servent cormier
>>74483715
shut up lizard buddeh
>>74483700
Because he gets his show money ($250k) to fight Khabib if he fights nobody and just go home.
The implication was that if he accepted the Johnson fight, he would not receive the 250k show money (which was to fight Khabib), but 100k show money and 50k win bonus.
That would be less than he would get to just fight nobody and just go home.
>>74483744
but if he took the show money it would be more than taking the Johnson fight. Don't you see the problem with this?
>>74483744
The fact that what you have posted is actually absurd should clue you in to the fact that it's not what happened.
>>74483749
> Don't you see the problem with this?
Yes, I do, which is why I have been pointing out the problem with it for about 20 posts.
I think we've had a very productive evening here lads
We've established that Tony Ferguson is a goof who quakes in his booties at the thought of fighting Michael Johnson.
We've proved that X is less than X.
And we've verified that Dave & Busters is indeed the best place to watch the fights.
>>74483753
Amazing! That's my point! That it's absurd. That it didn't happen.
Previously posted by myself here>>74483687
"the UFC would not do what is alleged in post >>74483324"
Response from >>74483700 was
"YES THEY WOULD"
>>74483757
No, you miss the point entirely.
see here >>74483753
How many times can you pull out of fights without being fired.
pull out merchant
>>74483769
The UFC would and have in the past. Its contract per contract and each one requires negotiation. There's no proof beyond speculation otherwise.
>>74481444
>trips recognized
>>74483744
>That would be less than he would get to just fight nobody and just go home
Yes because that's how bloody contracts work. Have you ever signed a contract in your life? If he signs to fight Johnson then his contract with Khabib would most likely get nullified.
Here it is in the simplest way imaginable that I can put it as if I was talking to a 4 year old cause I might as well be:
>Contract for fighting Khabib (#1 LW)
250k show money
100k win bonus
100k FOTN
Interim LW belt
>Contract for fighting Johnson (#6 LW)
100k show money (win/lose)
50k win bonus
100k FOTN
No
>Khabib fight falls through
Dana: Hello Tony, listen do you wanna fight Michael Johnson?
Tony: Uh sure, am I still getting the same amount of money
Dana: No, you're getting far less money, a lesser opponent and instead of 250k guaranteed you'd be getting 100k guaranteed, plus no belt, plus nothing else
Tony: Yeah no thanks you bald goof I'll stick to my old contract.
Dana: k
I don't get why I always get suckered into long windy arguments with Australians all the time on here, it's like there's a huge communication barrier although you clearly speak English. I literally never have this problem with any other nationality ever unless they're blatantly trolling.
>>74483775
Khabib vs Ian McCall for the Pull Out Merchant belt
>>74483786
>The UFC would and have in the past.
They would have, in the past, offered somebody less money to fight a replacement than what they are required to pay them to just go home?
Remember, the implication was that if they accept the replacement fight, they don't get the show money from the original fight.
>>74483783
>has to train to knock out my nan
Ireland still not losing a step, I see.
>>74483324
>Tony says no deal, and UFC cancel the fight. Tony gets his $250k show money plus possible PPV points
right there.
that's where you went wrong.
at least you tried.
proud of you!
>a dozen posts to go
Mods aren't deleting it, so I guess NEW:
>>74474824
>>74474824
>>74474824
>>74483769
You have severely misread the post. He's not saying that Ferguson wouldn't also get the show money for Khabib if he took the Johnson fight, he's saying that the amount they offered Ferguson for the Johnson fight was less than the total they offered him for the Khabib fight. He's getting the show money either way, but the pay for the Johnson fight isn't enough to justify taking on the huge amount of risk.
>>74483805
Wait, are you actually saying that Ferguson wouldn't get the show money from the Khabib fight if he took the Johnson fight?
Maybe you're the retarded one, I don't even know any more.
Khabib hahahahahaha
Hahahahahaha
Khabib loooool
KhaSHIT gets no show money, LOL
>>74483827
>Maybe you're the retarded one
I'm the retarded one? You've got like 3 different people all trying to explain the same thing to you and you still don't get it.
> Ferguson wouldn't get the show money from the Khabib fight if he took the Johnson fight?
Yes because DC didn't get his full money from the Jones fight when he agreed to fight Anderson. Quit being stupid, you might be doing this intentionally.
>>74483805
> Tony: Yeah no thanks you bald goof I'll stick to my old contract.
Who are you arguing against? You are saying what I'm saying.. That Tony would obviously reject it, so it makes no sense to offer it.
In order to get Tony to fight, they have to offer him more money than they would have to pay him to fight nobody and just go home.
>>74481583
Woodley
Vannata
Evans
Calvillo
Hunt
NEW i guess
>>74474824
>>74474824
>>74474824
>>74474824
>>74483827
>He's not saying that Ferguson wouldn't also get the show money for Khabib if he took the Johnson fight
He is. If you look at his figures for win bonus, you can tell. He says for Khabib "$250k and win bonus was $50k" and for Johnson, "$100k plus 50k bonus". If gets to keep the Khabib show money, than he would get 350k show money and 50k win bonus = 400k, whereas against Khabib he could only get 300k with a win.
>thread dies
When the FUCK is 210
going to complain in the new thread, carry on.
>>74483901
5 weeks
>>74483915
I can't wait that long, hit someone in the face NOW.
Get over here
>>74474824
>>74482026
>retire fucked up and broke
Bisping is amongst the top UFC earners.
>>74483559
>used to say
what changed?